I hope your right Vanner, but as of now I can't say much for West Co cause they've played so poorly lately.
OG an SGV division would be the bomb, I bet it would bring even greater interest to the local high school football scene, I would love to see that.

McD could start as an RB,QB or LB with a few area teams including the self percieved power CO. It is unfortunate he goes to a school and a league that's gets no respect. But this league turns out quality teams and plyers year in and year out. Look at some of these other schools,not all of their starters are good.

Everyone,

What is good about the SGV Football this year is the balance of teams. On "Any Given Friday Night" anyone can beat anyone! That is what makes this so fun. We would all like to see some of these matchups take place but with these different divisions it will be tough to get some of them. Why can't we get the all SGV divsion?? CIF set up the OC before the SGV, maybe next time we can get some love.

Good said jeffrulerson.
Hey Dan I recall you wondering what would happen to W.C. against Rowland since they beat S. H. by 10. Well Since S.H. has played both teams I would suggest to you that W.C. can beat Rowland. So good luck to the Bulldogs on next Friday against Rowland, Their beatable and S.H. will prove that if we see em again in CIF! yall.

Damien, Amat, Chino Hills are a bit too much for Covina, & thats no Bash on them, I also think that Rowland & Covina would be a great game, & I would give the edge to Rowland, also South Hills looks like they've turned the corner lately, & they would be a great game against Covina.

Big Daddy,

Your quote: "All anyone ever said was that Covina has a good team. We haven't said that we were the best in the area or the Elite or the number 1 team. Check the Blogs and what Aram has said." You should check 74-Colt's blog because that's exactly what he said. He said Covina should be ahead of Damien. Damien is #1. I took that to mean he thought Covina should be #1.

No one has bashed a Covina player or coach here. A Covina fan posted that he thought they should be ranked ahead of Damien. He gave his reasons. I posted why I think Damien should be ahead of Covina. I gave my reasons. Saying that one team should be ranked higher than another is not bashing.

On the contrary, I think most posters here, including Aram, think that Covina is a very good team with very good players. If there is any criticism, it would be that Covina's schedule has not been a very challenging one. It's hard to tell exactly how good they are, but that's not the fault of the players or coaches. That's just how it is this season.

Looking ahead to potential playoff matchups, Covina may be the last team standing in the SGV this year. They may very well be the #1 team by the end of the year. But, in my opinion they are not the #1 team yet.

Good luck to the Colts for the rest of the season. I hope they make a great run through the playoffs.

Lets see SHHS, I know you played Pomona last year and you have beat the crapp out of Clearmont the past 3 years. Fullerton is really tough I'm sure. Look my point is that every school out there has a few teams that they know that they can beat up on. They also would like to have a good solid game from some teams. Can you be 100% sure that you will win those games? No one can say that. You may be picked to win and some times come up short. SHHS plays some good teams, don't get me wrong. I was just stating a fact to all those Covina haters that we are all in the same boat. We all play a team or a couple of teams in preseason thay we should beat with out a problem. SHHS this year has a young team and they struggled a little. But last years team, if they played some of the teams today the would crush them.

Big Daddy,

Since I'm a "bagpiper" I don't think we played you for the "win" it was just that those wimps at Arcadia and Temple City dumped us from their "scheds" because we gave them a good ole ass whooping last couple of years and didn't want anymore of it. I think it might have just been a quick fix in the schedule that we played Duarte this year. But that is just speculation on my part.

"If" they were to have runs against Rowland and Covina, the Duarte kids just might come up short only because so many guys go both ways it would be so tough for them to go four quarters against teams like that. Duarte is a good three quarter team. I hate saying that because these kids were busting there butts against my Tartans but you could tell they were tired towards the end. Just too many people going both ways.

Colt,

Duarte has A LOT of big kids, and I'll tell you one thing too...they all have heart and when my "bagpipers" played them they sure may an impression on me. Those big men were warriors! If they wanted to play at Glendora heck I'd march them over to enrollment office.

I am out!

Mike the Clone

I would be interested to know of what "Cupcakes" SHHS has on their non-league schedule????

latest CIF Polls :

http://www.cifss.org/polls/Football_11_Man/11manfootballpoll.pdf

Sorry, Mike! There are some things in my Texas Nature I can't get rid of. Not to sell the Duarte kids short, I know some of them also. They have a few of my wife's nephews on the team. I was just making that fact, that the main reason Glendora scheduled them was for the W, not that they were one of the best teams in the area. They have good team and have been for the past couple of years. Corey Fluker was on that team last year. That is one of my wifes nephews and that team was smokin. They are haveing a good run like Covina and Rowland. I hope the best for all the teams and hope they can get there CIF Championship. Take a look at the CIF Site. The latest Pollls are out. For all of you screaming Damien, the only team ranked in the Inland Division is Chino Hills and they are at #4. Polls and rankings don't mean much. You still have to go out and play the game. Good Luck to all!!!

Mike...that one kid they got Harris (?) is a big kid! Isn't he like 6'6"' 320 or thereabouts? Is that kid related to the running back also named Harris? He seems to be having a pretty good year too. I saw Duarte play Glendora at the start of the season ( actually only the 3rd and 4th quarters ). Duarte should breeze thru their last two games.

Big Daddy if you would have used "yall" one more time I was gonna go run my finger nails down a chalk board.

Heck I'd pay to see Covina and Damien slug it out or even Chino Hills play Covina. And don't sell the Duarte kids short. They were a tough bunch with a lot of heart. Their big men up front won me over.

Out yall!

Mike the Clone

What's wrong with yall?? Are yall threaten by Covina? Why do yall have to Bash them so much? If yall saw the Tesoro Game last year and the teams Covina beat to get there, yall would see how good Covina is. The boys still have to go out and play football. At this point I still would put Covina up against Glendora, Damien, South Hills, and West Covina. They play hard just like the other teams. I covered and reported on alot of games last year. I saw some Good teams (South Hills, West Covina, Glendora, Rosmead) beat up on teams that were "CUP CAKES" as yall would call them. To say that Covina can't beat anyone is abusrd!
For all you Covina Haters, is seems to me that the only reason yall are hateing on them is because they are winning. They are taking the press away from yall schools. There is no need to bash the kids and the coaches. They can't help the teams in there league and we all have those 0-6, 2-4, 1-5 teams. Do yall take pride in beating them? This is a tough sport and all the schools do there best to win. How low can you go to bash the football players. Yall sound and look like fools! When you watch a guy (MIke McDonough) drag 4 guys into the end zone from 6 yards out, you have to say that is a good player. Don't hate, just understand that Covina is a Good Team. I have watched them get there butts kicked for years. Now that they are winning, yall say that there no good. Glendora, yall have games against Ayala 0-8, Diamondbar 2-6, beat Chino 3-5. I'm more than sure that if Covina had to play them they would win. Yall scheduled Rowland, why? The W! They haven't been a good them for many of years. You scheduled them because it would be a easy win. They are barely getting respect even though they beat South Hills. It's Rowlands turn to Shine and folks still say that there not that good. You scheduled Covina and Duarte, for the same reason, so yall can get your W's. For all of yall these are the "CUP CAKE" teams. We are all in the same boat. Don't be 2 faced and think that all of yall play the Best Teams, the Elite teams in the area. Dam, Diamond Ranch took on Oaks Christian.That balls and guts!! Lets see yall(Glendora, Damien, Chino Hills) do that in the Future. So back off Covina, accept the fact that they are winning and stop bashing the kids and coaches. Have a little respect for your selves and support your team. When yall start playing the Elite teams (Oaks Christian, Mater Dei, Norte Dame, Mission Viejo) and beat them, then yall can talk. All anyone ever said was that Covina has a good team. We haven't said that we were the best in the area or the Elite or the number 1 team. Check the Blogs and what Aram has said. We just have a good team and a good run at this time. I'm more than sure all of yall have had your years of getting your butt kicked. Now it our turn to kick some butt!!

SGV Honk aka SH Husky Fluffer:

Covina schedules teams like Covina. They are the best in their world vs teams like them. And that is that. They play with kids who live on their street. They are not like the Huskies of the 2000's but more like the huskies of the 90's, remember your Rosemead and Pomona days? Thats why nobody around here will play the Huskies in preseason because nobody likes getting beat by their own kids including Covina. Remember the Dunleavy's, Olivares brothers, Gonzales to name a few??? All Covina kids who jumped ship to get a cheap D7ring, did they move...no. Were they legal transfers no.. Did CIF or Ms North care...no. But hey a ring is a ring right? They all should have been forfeits! Your jr high teachers don't even recognize your varsity team cause they never went there! (refer to your Duarte 2006 fresh squad).

This year Covina is solid and has a chance to do well. Next year they will be back to average in the VVL and will need to play "teams like them."

Hey "Refering..." did the circus pull out and forget you? You MUST be a clown. Or are the fumes from the French Fry Vat you are standing over getting to you?

Hint - that buzzing in your ears means they are ready to be taken out....it's not God whispering to you more High school football information that you can pass onto us.

First let me start by apologizing for ragging on another team. Not normally my style and for what ever reason, I get more than riled up when I see "ratings". No excuse..I was starting to be an ass.

Now with that said... For the last few years I have hated being in the VV League. I remember the good old days when Covina was in the Sierra League and went up against C.O,( Preseason ): WestCo, South Hills, La Puente, Glendora, Los Altos... but because we basically sucked most years the generosity Gods cast us to the lessors. My view is that you only get better playing better teams, and in those days THOSE WERE the better teams. I( and most boosters ) would give anything to be in a stronger league but last time I checked they don't ask for my input.

I have to disagree on one statement..this is Covinas once in a decade team. Well it must be twice this decade because we did pretty good last year too.

Now onto Amat. When I was in school( around the time the wheel was invented ) Amat WAS Southern Section Football. They were it. Although I have not followed them too closely this year I can feel the pain of those of you that do. In my day I remember Haden, Mckay... and I hope that they get back to that level and soon. For those of us in the 70's Amat WAS the football Gods.

Anyway..looking forward to the last two games and then the playoffs.

COVINAS players could start anywhere else hahahahahhahahahahahahaha....mike m....couldnt start over george munoz philip chase or nick lamaison....straight up covina dosnt have a rb that can compare to will wallace,rene small,or the two backs of south hills #15,#34....number 9 from west co the wr,john salazar would dominate over any player at covina yes there is exeption maby a couple of players could start at these three stud programs maybe....on special teams hahahhahahaha.....like holder or long snapper maybe!!!

Alright enough already!

You sound like "my dad can beat up your dad!" kids in a sandbox. Covina has a great player in Mc D- no doubt about that! Player of the Year as a junior and on schedule to double that up! "nuff said! And he plays MLB as well! Look at his stats!

Damien is having a monster year and playing a tough schedule. They have dismantled teams and played like champions in their two loses! Damien also spreads the wealth and is luckily more balanced so the stats are a real non factor."nuff said!

Covina and Damien probably would make for a great game because of boths teams leadership and will to win. Let's leave it at that! They won't play this year or next but it would have been an honor to see a QB that plays LB and never leaves the field!

Damien wins because of depth and size of O and D lines. Too many bigs for Covina to handle and they get dismantled. (like Glendora)

Covina wins because Mc D plays to the level of his competition and has the game of his life. Team rallies around him and makes big plays. (like Los Altos)

Both scenarios are possible. "nuff said!

Maybe Rowland vs. Covina is a better match up. Who wins there?

Coupla things,

If you've watched enough high school football, you can tell what's a legit team and what isn't. Even if it's against bad competition, you can tell. Believe me when I tell you that Covina could play with and beat anybody in this area with the exception probably Amat, maybe Damien. The Colts have legit weapons and players that would start anywhere else and do well.

About the schedule - I think that after what Covina accomplished last year, there doesn't need to be any questioning of their legitimacy. This was a team that went to the semis last year and gave back-to-back champ and now D-1 Tesoro a battle in conditions that weren't optimal.

Also, I think Darryl Thomas has a point when he says that "these are teams that would beat us two years ago."

This is Covina's once-every-decade team. There's no need for the Colts to go out and schedule a ridiculous nonleague campaign. This isn't a program that simply reloads every year.

Sorry, but some of you need to learn that you can't compare apples and oranges.

Hey your right...you can't set up league games...but you sure can set-up your pre-season schedule and for a school like Covina to be scheduling "Cupcakes" like Sonora, Mountain View and Ontario Christian is absurd.

I think that coach Thomas needs a lesson in pre-season schedule from guys like Gano, Farrar, Bogan and Maggoire.

But hey, when you can go 9-1 and then underachieve in the playoffs (and I will give you 2005 as a acheivable year), whom am I to say what is right and what is wrong with scheduling....

When Covina plays teams like St. Francis, Esperanza, Damien and etc, then you can talk.

Measuring teams by common opponents is notihng new. Since Covina is not playing Damien, I thought it would be a fair basis for comparison. You obviously disagree. You obviously think that stats are a good measurement because that's what you posted. Games against Glendora may not be the basis for rankings, but the fact remains: you lost to the ONLY good team on your schedule.

Congrats! Your Colts can rack up really impressive stats on very bad teams. I wonder what you think about the question that I posted before: How would Covina's stats be if they were playing Damien's schedule?

As far as me having the power to schedule Damien against Covina, why should Damien play Covina? It's not worth while for Damien to play Division X schools. If they win, it's a win over a Division X team. If they lose, it's a loss to a Division X team. There is nothing for Damien to gain by playing Covina.

You want to talk about losses? Fine, Damien has two losses by a combined 4 points. You have one loss by 2 touchdowns. Looking at your team's schedule vs. Damien's schedule, Damien's loss against Bosco was a better performance than any single win your Colts have this season.

Covina has a lot to prove because THEY DON'T PLAY ANYBODY! I know you can't help who's in your league, but you certainly have control over your pre-league schedule. I know that's hard for someone who thinks that a Division X team should be #1 in SGV to understand, but it's true.

I can give Covina credit for being a pretty good team, but you're not asking for credit. You are saying that Covina is #1 in the SGV. They aren't.

"We can only play who's in our league... And whip them. If you have the power set up a game between Damien and Glendora ..."

typo..meant Damien and Covina

"I couldn't have said it better myself. I guess coach Thomas is more interested in getting w's that playing real opponents."

How many times are you guys going to use that lame excuse? Last time I checked the coaches don't set up the leagues and who they play. Hey..but again..if you have the almighty power to set up games..set up one between us and you and lets place a friendly wager.

The "what if's " are getting old.....and it's a lame excuse for not giving credit to ( and I quote a very wise man ) " A very, very good team"

So Rankings are based on teams playing Glendora? Face it...Covina had a bad game. It happened. Once. Our first game. How many bad games have Damien and Glendora had now?
I'll answere that..2 for you and 3 for Glendora. I guess since losses count in your book then we win there too! If being ranked goes by the Glendora game for starters then what else counts? If it's stats and performance then we still outshine Damien... ( would you like a shovel yet to dig yourself out? )
We can only play who's in our league... And whip them. If you have the power set up a game between Damien and Glendora then by all means go for it and we'll wager! You'll come around...just like everyone else is.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I guess coach Thomas is more interested in getting w's that playing real opponents. Have fun playing Oaks Christian...you'll need it!!!!

How can Damien be ranked above Covina? Well, for starters Damien beat Glendora and Covina didn't. That's their only common foe. Covina put up 14 points and gained 255 total yards. Damien put up 33 points and gained 344 total yards. Covina's defense gave up 268 yards on the ground to Glendora. That's more than Damien gave up to Glendora passing and rushing combined.

As far as your stats go: what would Covina's stats look like if they played Poly, Bosco, Claremont, Charter Oak, and Los Altos instead of OC, Walnut, Mountain View, and Sonora? Play somebody, then we'll talk.

Just realized that you were talking Sierra league only. My bad.

But since I happened to have the stats between both teams I thought I post them anyway. Seeing how I totally disagree how Damien could be ranked above Covina. Did I mention that I ( and probably every person in Covina )totally disagrees?

Damien: Rush:1261 Pass:1357 Total:2618 ...327.3 per

Covina: Rush:1863 Pass:1587 Total:3450 ...431.3 per

Covina - earning respect one game at a time.

"Good teams run balanced attacks. Looks like the best offense, at this point, is at Damien."

I beg to differ. Covina's stats blow Damien out of the water. Read em and weep.

At this point in time I would put the Colts up against anybody. Glendora I wish we could have a rematch now. Covina shut down your so called balanced offence. What did you really do after the first quater. People need to see for them selves that the Colts are a good team. I sat and watched them last year and they are just as good this year. They have a great defence. I would think that holding Arron Harris to 16 yards warrants some condiseration. Covina is averaging 431 yard per game. 231 yards rushing and 200 yards passing. Dam I would say thats better than 1,2 & 3!!!! Check the stats Maxpreps!!!!

Check the Stats,
According to MaxPreps my statement rings true.
Damien is very balanced with an average of about 170 passing and 160 rushing per game, while Chino Hills is heavily reliant on the rush with about 226 rushing and only 87 passing per game.
Sierra League team averages are:
1. Damien 330 yds per game
2. Glendora 328 yds per game
3. Chino Hills 313 yds per game
4-6. Who Cares
Good teams run balanced attacks. Looks like the best offense, at this point, is at Damien. Time will tell

Whether it is one team or no team that has not reached the playoffs is moot. The point is Los Altos has long, successful football program.

If it really matters what the number is, here it is. Twice since 1972, Los Altos has not made the playoffs. The first in 1990 after a 4-5-1 record, and in 1994 when they went 5-5.

I wouldn't expect Gano to know every record in the thick Los Altos history book.

Living Legend,

Read the quote again. He says "there's only been one team since 1971 or '72" ... he didn't say no team. He said one, and that's the one you're talking about.

"There's only been one Los Altos team since 1971 or '72 that hasn't made the playoffs," Gano said. "We don't want to be the only other team in 30 years to miss the playoffs."

AHS

Damien has a running game? Since when?

You rank fourth in the Sierra league, barely above Diamond Bar.

Hey Aram in your story "A must win situation" Gano says that a team from los altos has made the playoffs every year since 71 or 72...this is incorrect i believe that either the 94 or 95 team did not make the playoffs..they lost out on a coin flip between L.A., Wilson and Pomona..check on that.

Although I agree that Calpreps is very accurate at this point in the season, I have seen Damien and Chino Hills play. I think Damien is the more impressive of the two. The Spartans have the ability to pass and run effectively, whereas the Huskies are only effective passing if they establish a ground game and get a lead. If Damien can slow Michael Harris, get a lead, and force Roenicke to pass, they will destroy Chino Hills. Sure look forward to this matchup in 2 weeks.

we'll see about these rankings november 9th... damien vs chino hills for the sierra league title

covina is actually ranked 18.4. look for yourself!
http://www.calpreps.com/2006/9_Valle_Vista.htm