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Well Lancer proud we pulled that one out. a win is a win....congrats to the defense!! great job!..Offense did just enough to get the job done..the adjustments made at halftime worked...O-line is really being pushed around tho..and I am not talking just this game but in the last 3 games...if you have film watch it....we must improve this....the opposing teams Defensive front is getting off the ball stronger and more aggressive.....our running back are gaining yards on pure talent.....Rolling out Wells and Carrillo is what has to be done because if you sit them in the pocket they are done the rush is in their face.....no consistency on that o-line...we must improve there.............We should have scored more points last nite but the offense looked way out of sync the first half,with the experiment of Wells back there...but the young man Wells has the will to win and came out play the second half. there is no telling how much more effective Wells can be if that O-line starts to blow defensive fronts off the ball...Glad to See Tillis finally get some playing time, but he never got the ball in his hands....The game ball should go to the Punter..Yes, the punter....he was pinning Chaminade back there and giving them lousy field position.....The offensive pass interferrence by Chaminade with the clock winding down sent them backwards with a 4th and 24 really killed their drive...they may have tied the score with a field goal or won the game with a TD............we got a good call there....luck is luck........Hope St. Franny takes allot out of Crespi tonite.....that Homecoming game is our season....it is a must win for Amat.

Bleeder?

Why is it that when you make a point you have to go from the ridiculous to the absurd?

No ones complaining, making excuses, minimizing LA QB Casteneda's efforts, making remarks about his size (5'7") other than the one I started saying how good I thought "he" was and that he reminded me of Beto Corona (5'7") Roosevelt Class of '75 who lost in the semi's to Pacific Palisades and Ron Cuccia Class of '79 who was a legit HS legend and was also 5'7". So do some reading yourself. As far as the coaches from LA I gave them alot of credit before and after the game. Thougt Fair would beat St. Francis and almost did from what I read. So if you must comment be accurate regarding my position or look the other way. I tried doing that last week regarding your comments.

I was making the point to Damien's ranking not putting anyone down other than the ones that got their asses kicked on the field. And I think after the game it's fair to say whether that happened or not. As far as LA and SJB goes they were good games not ass kickings. Can you get you ass kicked and lose by 2pts? I don't think so. See your stupidity! You beat St. Francis by the same score , did you kick their ass? No. IT WAS A GOOD GAME. Is that so complicated to understand.

Valencia kicked your ass, fair and square. But as of yet no one has kicked Damien's ass this year. Ask LA, they lost 3 in a row after "beating" us. Ask SJB if they feel lucky or kicked our ass. They'll probably say the same thing it was a good game and that's it! What the hell do you know you weren't even there. I saw Amat play against Carson and at least I can comment from what I saw. Carson beat you fair and square. Did they kick your ass? I don't think so and said so. It was just players not making enough plays that beat you. Not coaching, players lost that game.

Everytime someone has something to say about "their" team you always feel the need to say something stupid. That's fair if you're talking about Amat, being that you're an Alumnus and all. But what the hell are you doing taking up someone else's fight?

By the way with all the great players Amat has had over the years were are all the great former players coaching these days other than the "stands" and on this "blog"?

Try appreciating someone else's perspective for once. Good luck against Chaminade and hope you win league. It would be nice to see Damien and Bishop Amat run the table. See you at the Loyola game.

Lancer B&G / Luv this Game,

We must live and die with this team and this staff this year but, I do agree it will be too late when the staff has figured out they have some deep bench and some bonifide soldiers on that bench....Can they win with what they are playing with so far, sure, but the questions is can the staff make this team better and use all the resources it has. I agree we are limited due to politics / Tunnel vision and a deep dog house......Lets play this season and see how far it goes.....the Crespi game will tell us if we are playoff bound or not, because we will not beat ND the following week...hope we dont start off 0-2 or stick a fork in us, its over....if we would have prepared that deep bench along side the starters, we can play with anyone in D1.....watch and see how our men are coming off the field during that fourth quarter sucking wind and sitting down trying to get some energy....A deep bench would solve that problem. There is a lack in trust in the other players by the coaches..It is a two way street here...the coaches want the players to trust them and their program but the coaches only trust a numbers of players, the rest is the supporting cast on the cut room floor that have a nice uniform on a good seat for the game...

MATMTWTBAG & luvthisgame: I must say I thought all was lost. I have finally found some rationale people in the bunch! I want Amat to win and they don't seem to realize that they could have and can do that with the personnel they have. It would appear politics or personal agendas have gotten in the way. Hopefully they will come around at some point this season, the fear is that it will and is too late.

Go Amat!

MY...MY...MY... I must be seeing and hearing things. Based on what Randy said about my QB and offense thoughts, the coaches must be "FB no nothings" also, because they are doing exactly what I have been suggesting for weeks. Can I say I told you so? Hey Bluorca, are you in the boat with me and SGV Athlete on this one now too? Sure hope so. MATMTWTBAG, good comments, you were also on point about that Tillis kid. Hey coaches, If anything happens to Wells (hope not), you sure could put Tillis in to run this new O. He has the wheels and the arm to "get the job done" in your new scheme. AMAT will win in a close one, but watch the "NEW O" go.

Thank you Dan I'm glad you saw the humor in my post. We should finish up strong and make some noise in CIF this year. Good luck to West Co and hopefully that was the last you will see of that ref..lol

"" Golly Gee Mr. CIF official, That was a bad call by a high school ref. We can't live with ourselves any longer. We know West Co would never take a win like that so how could we?"

That was funny Betty B, OK I'm over my ranting & raving, good luck to Charter Oak, I hope you guys have a good season in league.

Lancer B&G, I agree with you big time with those skilled players sitting there waiting for a chance on the bench. What a added dimension this would give our team, not to mention the reserve gas we will be saving in those ferocious starters. Our reserves can hang in there just like the starters. Starters are starters because they deserve to be in there because they are the better players (but dont get me politicking)......there are some questionable reserves that should be starters......the kid with speed sits on the bench (Tillis).. sure he did not figure in their plans for QB and now they have him at WR , but do they play him? No...this is a speedster lost in the shuffle......can he do punt returns or kick off returns?..I bet he could......We talk about the trickery and yes having Wells back there is a added dimension but everyone knows he is going to take off........once that gets keyed on then what is next? (that why putting in the wing T with all that speed would be perfect)....Carrillo has got to be feeling kind of sad getting some of his time taken away from him......but hey thats the way the pickle squirts!.....Carrillo has made some bad reads and some bad decisions to throw interceptions in critical moments of games ,but lets not put all the blame on him, the coaches are calling the plays.....that pick he threw against St. Franny should of never happened. the next call should have been a run.. there was plenty of time on the clock....the coaches I think get caught up in the game....that is inexperience for you, but hey they pulled it out so good for them......Chaminade is a tough opponent and is going to cause some havoc in this game but so far Chaminade has not beaten a D1 school....lets not be the first one they beat.....Amat will prevail in a close one 24-17.....Dont expect the coaches to start experimenting now with that talented bench...it is too late league is around the corner.....what a shame that 50-65 percent of the players will not even see a snap this year in a real game.....they sure do look good in practice and that goes for those so called scout players....I have seen some scout players put a licking on some of those starters in practice, but it goes unnoticed......maybe it is lack of consistency on the scout players and thats why they are scout players....but it does take away from there talent...I bet there is a diamond in the rough there waiting to get out but only a experience coach can see that......enuf said.

This week will be interesting with Amat facing Chaminade. Although Amat has appeared to adjust some during non-league, they are now one week from league play and unsure about their QB. I am concerned about the trick plays.

Chaminade is a tough team and it will take more than Lancer heart to win this game. The team will have to be well-fit, quick, and on point with their play execution. The coaching will have to be stellar and the offense will have to be prepared to deal with defensive schemes that they may not be prepared for. Although, Amat is suffering at some key positions with injuries, they have a strong bench.

In my attendance at the latest practices, I cannot say I am convinced that they are really prepared for what they are to face Friday night in the other valley.

If Amat is to win this game they will have to put some unknowns in the game who have not been scouted by Chaminade. You better believe that Chaminade is ready for the direct snaps to Wells and they will be keying in on he and McBride.

Again, the Lancers have a lot more fire power on their bench that they do not use. Hopefully Verti has learned from the injuries he has had this season that the W's Amat has gotten are TEAM wins and not won by individuals. Although, don't get me wrong he has had some superior plays made by several individuals.

However, everyone contributes to the success of a football team! The stellar athleticism and prowess of a few cannot win every game for you. You cannot have a few play several positions all season without them breaking down at some point. One or two players will not take you all the way through the season & playoffs. BE SMART & use your bench. Give those two way players a rest so that they can stay healthy, contribute on key plays all game long, & when it really matters. Give them an opportunity to be with you for the entire season, especially if most of your wins came on their backs.

You looked pretty tired last game during the fourth quarter. Remember: you almost lost that game with bad decisions to throw the ball which ended up in an interception. Don't get ahead of yourselves. Take each game, one down and one quarter at a time. This will save Amat some heartache in the end. Play hard and take this opponent very seriously. This will be the hardest team you have faced yet.

A few suggestions: rush the QB with your corners. Get some speed out there at WR & use a QB who can get the ball to the open man. Stop constantly taking McBride through the middle-let him go to the outside. With his quickness and speed that will be at least a first down, if not six everytime. Get some height at corner to defend some of these WR and block their view of the ball. Teach your DBs to look for the ball because they are getting burned too often looking at the WR's eyes. Correct those PI calls in practice-they make for unnecessary penalties in the games.

Keep your heads on the swivel Amat and play hard! You can prevail. Go Amat!

Amat to win 21-14.

It's interesting to note, while the Glendora Tartans are experiencing inconsistency problems with there performance, three teams they have beaten (Rowland, Covina and Duarte) are the #1 teams in thier respective leagues...go figure.

Amat playoff chances:

Chaminade means nothing because of non league but it helps in overall record should Amat get into the at large group.

First league game very critical. at home vs Crespi a team that beat Chaminade. Losing this friday to Chaminade would tell us if Amat can handle Crespi. This Crespi game is Amats chance at playoffs because a loss to Crespi and then a the following game at SO Notre Dame (a for sure loss) starts Amats league off at 0-2 (they are done).....A Amat win vs Crespi then the eventual loss as ND leaves Amat with a must win at Loyola which is possible since Loyola is not having that great of year..(right there we are 2-1 and playoff chances look good)...but of course this is all speculation, but from what I can see ND is going to run the table and come out 3-0.....Amats Playoff run starts at league game one....no question, the playoff picture for Amat will be seen after that Crespi game.........ON BLUE!

Anybody that puts Covina ahead of Bonita using the logic that Bonita hasn't played anyone is ridiculous. Have you seen Covina's schedule. The only team they played they lost to which was Glendora. Other than that there toughest game has been Ontario Christian. I think the point is very valid that Bonita hasn't played anybody. But please use the same logic when comparing Covina to other teams. I keep seeing covina ahead of bonita in some of your guys' rankings and it is making no sense to me.

Bottom line CO won the game.

Integrity? What do you want? Charter Oak to give West Co the win?

" Golly Gee Mr. CIF official, That was a bad call by a high school ref. We can't live with ourselves any longer. We know West Co would never take a win like that so how could we?"

bleedblungold,

It's obvious that you think Amat is the #1 team in the SGV. It's hard to argue with that because of Amat's nice win over St. Francis. Plus, Damien and Amat don't play this year, so we can't know who would win.

Don't take this as an attack because it isn't. My question for you is: will Amat make the playoffs this year? It's going to be tough because their league only has 2 automatic spots and the Pac-5 only has one at-large spot for the whole division. So, what do you think are the Lancers' chances at making the playoffs this year?

ok the lights were not turned off intentionally. second the damien coach is the one who ran on the field yelling at the refs saying that the lights were off while trying to talk to his players. obviously coach gano noticed thats why he said something about the coach getting on the field. and third ok ya you did fumble on the 1 yard line but didnt LA have the ball on around the 50 and get stopped by 1 yard too? so comon. 1 yard is 1 yard no matter how you look at it

Aram, you got to give Damien some love..
They got robbed in the St. John Bosco game...
I give them credit because Kiki got out there and got in the refs face and argued til they put up 1 sec. to allow them to get on the field to kick a field goal..
Los Altos turned the lights off 3 different times as Damien was driving 3 times...Watered the field all week so it was muddy..So once again certain coaches will help decide games before they are even played.Then a fumble with 30 sec. that was in the endzone according to photos by the photographer on the sidelines.
Damien will finish off the Sierra league undefeated this year...

Note: I am not the same as Prep fan.

SGVfball fan, can't argue with you much, except there were a few other plays that could have changed the outcome, but on those plays, West Co. made mistakes so not much to say there, they are playing some bad ball these last couple of games with 9 turnovers in the last two games alone most are fumbles, against Ayala they had 5 turnovers & 11 penaltys, thats 16 plays they lost in one game alone, not to mention 2 of those were touchdowns.
Never the less, I still got faith in this team and I think they will turn it around in league, & it won't suprise me to see them back in the SGV top three at seasons end.

Hey prep fan why cant we have some honesty here and call yourself Damien fan surely you are not a fan of St John Bosco and Los Altos, even though they beat you fair and square, please stop the whinning and get to the real point here.

Obviously you havent taken the time to read my other blogs, if you would do this you would possibly have a better understanding of your plight, and the reason why your squad lost these games instead of insulting the players and coaches that whipped your hind side, I mean Los Al Div VI and dont blame them for your RB not getting enough reps in practice to hold onto the ball, and if the coaches did a better job of developing a game plan you might still be undefeated.

You have a great squad and loads of talent but honestly you should be calling for the ouster of your staff not insulting teams that beat you, I dont read anywhere any one from los altos or from any other squad complaining or making excuses for thier loses, hey be a stand up guy, it sounds like the other cartoon character who is constantly giving your injury report, like if you guys are the only ones who play injured or hurt.

Facts my friend, im sure that there are things that your players and staff did or did not do that caused those defeats or things that your opponents did to you that you couldnt handle.

And finally are you trying to sell yourself something by noting your slanted stats, use facts friend the greatest Qber of all time passed for 76 yds and one TD, the no talent weak and 5'7" kid from los al threw for 205 yds and 2 TD s, but hey none of that matters when we abandone the truth stats are useless, in prepfans world, we need to bow down to THE GREATEST DYNASTY in prep football history, too bad we dont get a chance to beat you down to reality like ST JOHN, LOS AL did but hey you cant have everything in the same season, beating one wanna be a season (ST FRANCIS) is OK with us, better enjoy the ranking before league starts, because no matter how you screw with the stats you still have the same coaching staff and a kid with a bullseye on his back. Oh and i forgot a RB who cant hold onto the ball.

Well just like in cool hand luke, we dont like to do it this way, but thats the way he wants it, thats the way he,s gonna to get it.

Next time Wacky cheer for your team but dont belittle and attack someone who kicked your rear almost a month ago.

Might as well do Damien...

Damien's opponents so far...

>Riverside Poly is 3-3. Also lost to 4-2 Great Oak 43-7 and 3-3 Canyon Springs 42-0.

>St. John Bosco is 6-0 and LAT #17. I'm sure this team has a few Div-1 recruits. Help me out here guys...Wins include 5-1 Rancho Verde 38-7 and Valencia 55-34.

>Claremont is 2-4 and also lost to 3-4 South Hills 9-4? lol what a score! Lost also to 3-3 Charter Oak 21-20.

>Los Altos is 4-3 and also beat 3-4 South Hills 22-21. Losses are to 5-1 St. Francis, 2-4 Western, and 2-4 Diamond Ranch. No need for scores.

>Charter Oak is 3-3 and also lost to 4-2 Upland 38-14, 4-2 Glendora 14-7. Beat 3-3 West Covina 10-7.

>Glendora is 4-2 and also lost to 5-1 Capistrano Valley 26-25. Wins over 5-1 Covina 28-14, 3-3 Charter Oak 14-7, and 5-1 Rowland 30-29.

Chavez has 411 yards passing and five Tds, 79 yards running and another TD! That's 6 TDs in one game against Wilson, no slouch @ Wilson.!Bonita doesn't make their schedule. If they are not #2 now when could they be? 7-0, 8-0? That makes it almost impossible to get recognized.

If 6-0 Bonita and 5-1 Covina and 5-1 Rowland get no respect than maybe the SGV isn't as tough as Aram would have people believe.

As far as Valencia,St. Paul and Hart is concerned how many Div I athletes does Amat have, 3 on the O-line alone,RB/Lb Mc Bride , WR/RB Gaise,WR/DB Wells and maybe a few future ones I don't know about, so that Div I RB (competition) argument is thin, politely thin , lol.

No I like the SJB, Los Altos, St. Francis comparison best. Damien hasn't been blown out (1sec. + 1yd,=6-0), Bonita hasn't lost all year and Amat because they beat St. Francis. Remember that's Amat's only quality win vs. one quality lost (Carson) at home. If Amat wins, Damien wins,Bonita wins and Glendora beats Chino Hills this Friday then we really have problems!

Here's hoping that's exactly what happens!

what would rolands record look like if they played the schools that WEST COVINA and SOUTH HILLS played? I dont think people would be talking as highly as they are about roland. they wouldent beat matre dei, rancho cucamonga, monrovia charter oak I dont even think they beat baldwin park or ayala as for SOUTH HILLS schedual they woulent beat los altos trabuco hills la habra and claremont as for WEST COVINA and SOUTH HILLS if they has rolands schedual the will be
6-0 also come on california,montebello,sonora,don lugo glendor would be the only good game.

To be fair...

Amat's opponents so far...And all rankings are from the LA Times.

>St. Paul is 3-3 with a Div 1 recruit at RB. Also lost to 5-1 St. Bonaventure(LAT #6) 36-6 and 3-3 Loyola 23-13.

>Valencia is 2-5 with Div 1 recruit at RB. Losses include 7-0 Corona Centennial (LAT #8) 46-35, 6-1 Orange Lutheran (LAT #11) 47-17, 6-0 St. John Bosco (LAT #17) 55-34, and 6-0 SO Notre Dame (LAT #3) 24-21.

>Hart is 3-4 with Div 1 recruit at RB. Losses include 5-1 St. Bonaventure (LAT #6) 34-0, 5-1 Moorepark (LAT #18) 42-24, 6-0 Westlake 28-27, and 4-2 CC Canyon (LAT #10) 41-25. Beat Loyola 49-21.

>Rancho Cucamonga is 5-1 with 2 Div 1 recruits at WR. Lost only to Amat 27-17. Beat West Covina, Carter, South Hills.

>Carson is 4-2 and former #1 team in City Section. Lost to 4-2 Harvard Westlake 31-30, also 5-1 Compton Dominguez (LAT #13) 32-26. Beat 4-2 Venice (LAT #21 and #2 City Section) 30-25.

>St. Francis is 5-1 and former #1 team in Western Division. Lost only to 3-3 Amat 29-28. Also beat Burbank Burroughs and Los Altos.

First of all Bonita is not the third best team in the valley...They beat a Wilson team that is very talented, but always finds a way to give the game up in the second half this has been the staple for the Oveado tenure...I would compare Wilson to the French Army..folds anytime a little pressure is applied...This is the victory that Bonita is hanging its hats on...

comon you have to give los altos some credit.
they did beat damien. luck or not. they also were 1 yard from keeping the ball and not giving it to them in the first place. second. st francis got lucky on that deep throw where that guy was there out of nowhere. third. western and diamond ranch..... the wheels just stopped and LA cant get them back going. hopefully they get them back going for charter oak this week. RIVARLY GAME =) but all of there losses were really close games

Bonita's Opponents So Far...

>West Valley is 0-6.
>South El Monte is 2-4 and also got rocked by San Dimas 34-19.
>Pomona is 2-4 and also got hammered by Covina 48-0.
>Northview is 3-3 and got machine gunned by 1-5 Walnut 34-9.
>San Dimas is 3-3 and barely escaped Baldwin Park.
>Wilson is 4-2 and by far the best team Bonita has faced this season. This explains why Bonita only beat them by 3 pts. Wilson also lost to 3-3 Schurr 27-12.

I'll leave it up to you guys to debate if Bonita belongs in the top 3 in the valley...or the top 5 even...

Most of the Top Ten are pure speculationa for the most part but:

Damien embarasses Claremont completely! Score was 53-7 with Damien on the 2 yard line with 4 plus minutes in the "3 Quarter"! And South Hills beats them by a baseball score!

Damien embarasses Charter Oak completely! (2x 05 and 06) and outgains them Rushing 223/9 and Passing 193/96 , 416 to 108 total yards. Glendora beats them in close game.

Damien exposes Glendora as a second tier team. Damien could have scored 50 on the Tartans yet Glendora beats Covina, C.O. close game, and Rowland another close game.

Damien out plays SJB ranked Top Ten in STATE for game (+ or - one second) and scores 29 on that tough defense. Slugs it out with the best in the State and what? No strenght of schedule points. Damien beat them last year as well. Damien plays them now it's still a close game and with new found Chris Marine I think Damien wins by 10! Anyone doubt that?

Damien does not get shut down by Los Altos. It was a close game! Fumbled at the 1 yard for the W.I.N !, even a FG beats them there. Los Altos Rushing/ Passing 360, Damien Rushing/Passing 251 That's not getting shut down that's a close game as the score would indicate 26-24! Damien plays Los Altos now it's 42-21 Damien! Anyone doubt that?

Mutual opponent breakdown:
Bishop Amat(3-3) get beat bad by Valencia (2-5) 59-37.
Valencia (2-5) gets beat bad by St. John Bosco (6-0) 55-34.
SJB - Damien 31-29

Mutual opponenet breakdown:
Los Altos loses to St. Francis 12-19.
St. Francis loses to Bishop Amat 29-28 in overtime.
Damien - Los Altos 29-31

Damien 2 loses were by 4 points total.
Amat 3 loses were by 53 points total.

Damien #1 Facts. Bonita #2 Wins. Bishop Amat #3 because they beat everyone else (#'s 4 thru 10) # 4 (tie) Rowland, Covina, Monrovia (1 lose teams), #'s 7 - 10 best of the rest to be sorted out with league games, scary thing is one of these teams might win their div!.

Play hard, stay healty and see you all on Friday Night!

DAN...good teams dont turn the ball over and over ummm and over o ya 1 more time and over...

bad teams...look back on the 1 call that coulda shoulda woulda the outcome

the only consistent among refs in the sgv is there inconsistent...

Thank You Aram!... Finally, a 2 minute drill for ARROYO. You were correct in saying there will be a whole lotta angry Knights in attendance and the revenge motive will spark a big blue pride victory. GO KNIGHTS GO!

The coaches at West Covina have to much class
to protest this, and are on to bigger & better things such as the next game, & I know that I'll catch hell on this board for posting this, but as a fan of Bulldog football it frustrated me to see it happen, it was an injustice to the game, and what was plainly seen by everyone that was looking from the stands, is confirmed on gamefilm... The TD. that was called back should not have been. The real score in the C. Oak vs West Co. game should have been 14 to 10 West Covina, & West Co's record should be 4 & 2.
What happened on the play was the
QB from Charter Oak attempted to throw a pass, and when he cocked his arm backward & begun to throw forward, the ball kept rolling backwards off of his fingers & landed behind him. A West Co line man scooped it up and ran for about a 30 or 40 yard TD. The ref closest to the play called it a touchdown, but after much debating and delay a second ref who was further away called the TD. back, and claimed that the ball was deflected yet no one was even close enough to deflect the ball.
So instead of a TD.for West Co., C.Oak gets the ball back and gets to punt the ball, which then pinned West Co back on their 5 yardline.
There was loud booing from most everyone in the stands & rightly so. I'm sure the Charter Oak
coaches & players saw the film the next day & were saying to each other "we got away with one".
Yeah I know I'm supposed to get over this already, but what happened is what happened, & I'll get over it eventually, maybe in about ten years. Now go ahead Joe from Rowland, I know you'll chastise me for this one.
OK Charter Oak posters do any of you have the honesty to addmit this? I'm calling you on this,
show me some integrity.

Bluorca:

Kind of hard to tell which of the two teams was better, honestly. More than anything, what has killed LA this season is mental blunders... the offense gets into spurts of not being able to move the ball for several series in a row due to missed blocks, fumbles, wrong routes, or bad decisions by the QB and RBs, and the defense doesn't seem to toughen up until it gets in the red zone. Since there were less mental mistakes against Damien, they played better against Damien, obviously.

Were I to rate the teams strengths, I'd say Damien has the better skill kids while St. Francis has the better line and LBs. Both would kill Western or Diamond Ranch, which is the level of team LA is finding ways to lose to these days; making it tough to say how good LA, Damien, or St. Francis is by these standards.

BTW, LA's grade situation is a bit overstated... I hear they lost one player who actually plays, which coincidently now gives them exactly the same personnel they had against South Hills in week 0.

1.Damien
2.Amat
3.Bonita(get team to watch offensively)
4.Covina
5. Los Altos
6. Glendora
7.CharterOak
I agree Bonita is a great team to watch this year they all got the need for WIN..GO BONITA

Well,
Now I get what your talking about Aram. I pray that those LA players hit the books hard. You can't play college ball if you don't graduate from high school. At least the problem was caught now rather than closer to graduation. Those kids now know what is at stake and they have the time now to improve their grades and make a comeback. My best wishes to them and their families.

I would love to hear some un-biased opinions from LOS ALTOS FANS regarding Damien/Amat. Only LOS ALTOS FANS witnessed both St. Francis and Damien. I think that they are in a good position to judge just how big (or little) Amat's win over St. Francis was. LOS ALTOS FANS can also tell us what they think would happen if Damien played St. Francis....

Please share your thoughts LA FANS....

i don't wanna admit it, but its gotta be bishop...schedule, played good away from home, have dealt w/ the injury bug and the "rookie" coach has done a good job week in and week out.... probally be #1 by end of year.

1. Damien
2. Amat
3. Glendora
4. Bonita
5. South Hills (lets be real. This team is good)
6. Rowland
7. Charter Oak
8. West Covina
9. Covina (Covina is good, but not up there with the big boys. Soft Schedule)
10. Los Altos

Others: Monrovia, Diamond Ranch

Damien holds the top spot-

Because of the affect they've had on the quality teams they've played. Their big line just breaks teams down. And they are just beginning to jell. Remember Damien had to replace at least 15 starters on offense and defense.

Look at the SJB game. Damien out played them that night and suffered a tough lost, still SJB played a great game not a fluke bad game (no rehash please) Played Los Altos and yes they were stuffed but still this young Damien team made the plays to win and then pop fumble at the 1. Is Los Altos the same team after that win. Kind of reminds me of Ali-Frazier I, Frazier won the fight but was never the same. Charter Oak was completely dismantled. They looked like a good JV team having a bad night. And Charter Oak was loaded win returning seasoned starters. Glendora looked like a fighter with one hand broken. Game, but completely over matched. Even though GT's confidence was high with many big wins, anyone who saw that game knows Damien could have put 50 on Glendora.

Amat on the other hand has played similar opponents and been blasted by some (Valencia) and beaten fair and square by others (Carson), but have those teams suffered for their wins? No. Wins against RC (always a win vs. any Amat team), St. Paul ( 'nuff said you own them) and St. Francis (Equal to SJB)and you handled them a tough loss. Great win but not a great season in ONE game and the #1 handled over like that! If you'd beaten Carson then yes Amat is the top team but that didn't happen.

Look at it this way. Let's reverse a lose for each team. Carson for Amat and SJB for Damien. Who's #1 now? Damien. Valencia for Amat and Los Altos for Damien. Same story. Damien.

Next week Amat opens league and with a big win maybe justifies the #1 ranking with strenght of schedule and quality wins combination. Amat is probably a week away.

you cannot really decide who is the #2 team in the SGV because there are many different variables involved. If you are talking about straight out skill, AMAT is the #2 team in the Valley behind Damien. If you are talking about strength of schedule, the #2 spot would go to Bonita or Glendora. so here it is:

1. Damien [strength of schedule and overall talented team]
2. AMAT [tough losses, and big wins]
3. Glendora [big wins]
4. Bonita [strenth of schedule is the only reason they aren't #1]
5. Covina [QB is the real deal]

*PS: bluorca-i too would LOVE to see AMAT play Damien or Los Altos. these games would be really close [REALLY CLOSE]. i might even give the nod to Damien if they played AMAT as Damien is playing so well this year. and if we look at the chain effect: Damien stayed close to SJB, SJB beat up on Valencia, and Valencia beat up on AMAT...figure it out

PPS: Los Altos started strong, but fell fast...

Top Ten TODAY...

1. Damien
2. Amat
3. Bonita
4. Covina
5. Glendora
6. Charter Oak
7. Los Altos
8. West Covina
9. Rowland
10.San Dimas

it does matter, because it sells papers. hahahaha. anyway, you're ranking LA too high. you cannot base any ranking of LA on what they did three weeks ago. it has to be about now, and they're not nearly the same team. and when grades come out tomorrow, they likely REALLY won't be the same team.

I based this list on about 80% cross stats and about 20% of my own personal speculation. The first 5 teams are mostly stat stuff because I feel that this is a more accurate way to rate these teams. The last 5 teams are mostly speculation (MOSTLY..not all). Before anyone accuses me of being bias...IF Amat had lost to St. Francis, I would have ranked Amat at #3 behind Los Altos and Damien.

1. Bishop Amat --> A > B > C,so A > C Right? Amat beats St. Francis who SHUT DOWN Los Altos who SHUT DOWN Damien. When it comes to the top 3 positions, I believe its necessary to stick to cold hard stats rather than speculation. Because there is no way to directly compare Amat, LA, and Damien, I feel that it is imperative to stick to the games that have been played so far. Any other action would be considered "just an opinion."

2. Los Altos --> Despite their loss to DR and Western , they not only beat Damien, they SHUT DOWN Damien's offense. It makes no sense to me how Damien could be ranked higher.

3. Damien --> Probably the best team Damien has had in many a year. This Does Not erase the fact that this team with their awesome offense hit a wall called the Los Altos defense. Damien failed to climb over this wall.

4. Glendora --> Beat Covina,Charter Oak, Rowland and on par with 5-1 Capo Valley.

5. Charter Oak --> Impressive win over West Covina and barely lost to Glendora.

6. West Covina--> Close loss to Charter Oak and has had a much more difficult schedule than the rest of the teams on this list. Impressive againts B.P. and Mater Dei no matter what subs MD was making. Would have done better againts Rancho C. if at better strength.

7. South Hills --> Dont let their record fool anyone...These Huskies are for real. South Hills has played some top notch teams this year. All of their losses have been CLOSE ones. Loses include close ones to Los Altos (1 pt.), a talent soaked Trabuco Hills, a 4-1 La Habra, and Rancho C. (1 pt.) I would have ranked this team higher if there was more cross data available.

8. Monrovia --> Lots of Talent but weak Schedule. Their only loss was to West Covina.

9. Rowland (tie) --> Has not played anyone of REAL value except Glendora...they lost to Glendora.

9. Covina (tie) --> Has just as much a weak schedule as Rowland except Glendora...they too lost to Glendora.

10. Bonita --> Undefeated but has a weaker schedule. Still destroyed San Dimas.

Honorable Mention #1 to San Dimas --> Beat a good Carter team and more importantly shut down A. Harris and BP.

Honorable Mention #2 to Baldwin Park --> Aaron Harris is in no way overrated. However, I do feel that BP, as a team, is.

*note*
I truly believe that if Amat played Los Altos or Damien this year, these would be close hard fought games. Probably more close than Amat fans would care to admit. But I did not rank based on speculation, I ranked them on what actually happened. It would be a mistake to judge any of these teams based soley on their win/loss record. A perfect example of this is South Hills who I believe could beat anyone, except the top 3 of this list. I did not include Chino Hills or Diamond Ranch because I dont consider them SGV. Am I wrong about this? If I forgot anyone, please let me know...I'll be more than happy to agree or disagree with ya'll! =)

The top ten - as if it matters:

1. Damien - top dog right now (not two weeks ago, right Aram?)
2. Amat - Beat the top dog in the West, keeps respect for the east.
3. Covina - would love to play Glendora again
4. Glendora - would love to play Capo again
5. Rowland - would love to play Glendora again
6. Bonita - undefeated, but meat of the league to come still
7. Charter Oak - got some respect back after WC win
8. South Hills - Can still win league and they know it
9. Diamond Ranch - killer preseason paying off? We'll see.
10. Los Altos - In a bad rut right now
West Covina - Hoping to get it together in league

Who cares about rating top 10. Bonita has had some great games, and the fans are getting more than $6.00 of entertainment. I am sure many other schools on Friday nights are doing the same. Bonita's Chavez is good and uses all of his recievers. This is not a one dementional team. Haven't faced anyone? Don't rule out Wilson or San Dimas. They both have talent.

1.Damien (well-balanced)
2.Bishop Amat (great comeing-up win)
3.Glendora ( dismantled by damien-no, mistake after mistake-yes)
4.Rowland (good win after Tartan loss,talented)
5.CO (big win over WC at WC)
6.Covina (still winning)
7.Bonita (play a legitiment school and we'll see)
8.San Dimas (tough loss to Bonita but still tough)
9.South Hills (maybe theyre back?)
10.Los Altos (2 straight losses be blessed still thinking of them)

rank them ,a lineman lol, hey 42 what are you talking about,rowland is 5-1 the only lose to glendora and only on a lucky blocked kick i think rowland should be in top 3 probably 2or3 so thats final i don't give a crap about what anyone thinks i make my own rankings out.

Wow, Tartens at #9 in one poll and MATMTW... whatever ur name is, has us OUT OF THE 10!(yet have played 4 of your top 7 and beaten 3 of them!!). No question Damien deserves the top spot after handing it to us last Friday. Bonita probably deserves #2 at 6-0 (until they lose, at least). After that there are several who could be 3rd. I still think the CalPreps/MaxPrep rating system is pretty good at evening teams out from different levels with different strengh of schedules. Using them, this week's poll looks like this:

1) Damien 25.6 (ranking score)
2) Glendora 20.9
3) Bishop Amat 19.3
4) West Covina 17.1
5) Bonita 16.7
6) Covina 15.2
7) Diamond Ranch 14.3 (@ 2-4?...but may right)
8) Rowland 13.8
9) Los Altos 13.8
10)Charter Oak 13.6

Big drop off until S.Hill @ 8.7 and then Duarte @ 5.4. Seems pretty clear who top 10 should be. Could see shuffling a few spots though.

Offensive Lineman
CARL SCHMITZ from Damien is a Man-Child
and he's just a junior.

MICHAEL JOHNSON is still the man too when the overthinking Charter Oak Chargers Coaching staff want to actually use him....
THROW JOHNSON THE BALL MORE!!!!! geez

Rank Top Ten Players at Mid Season

1) Chavez / Bonita(winning, running, passing 'nuff said)
2) Mc D/ Covina (Plays both sides of the ball 'nuff said)
3) Mendrun/ Damien (All the tools but he spreading wealth)
4) Schmitz/Damien (Hardest working lineman)

1.) Amat (beat St. Francis whom Beat Los Altos, whom beat Damien)
2.)Damien (who had a close loss to a Trinity unbeaten St. John Bosco)
3.)Covina (just keeps winning)
4.)Rowland (tough loss to Glendora comes back and spanks Nogales ..no question this team has got some talent.)
5.)Bonita (still unbeaten)
6.)San Dimas (team win.. not a Barbone Harris showdown)
7.)CO (cracked WC with all its players)
8.)So Hills (showing signs they are back) but against Cucamonga not the Raiders(Walnut) of the San Antonio)
9.)Los Altos (one writer very dead on,,have not recovered since Damien game)
10.)West Covina (another loss this week should drop you out of this top ten)

1. Damien(WOW)
2. Bishop Amat(St. Francis is about as good as it gets)
3. Bonita(Haven't played anyone good but they are still unbeaten so let's wait and see)
4. Covina(Great winning pace)
5. Glendora(Still one of the top teams just need to work out some issues)
6. Los Altos(Don't believe this team was awake for their game,expect a win this week)
7. Charter Oak(AJ Pasalo, just that simple)
8. West Covina(Monrovia win is only shining moment)
9. Baldwin Park(Take the OVER on Harris, OVERrated!)
10. South Hills(Some surprising losses)

Glendora recently beat Rowland so they outrank them. BA still has issues, even with a good win, so they fall below Glendora. Rowland could be 3 or 4
1. Damien
2. Glendora
3. BA
4. Rowland

Bonita should have the # 2 spot. They win. They come from behind, blow out opponents and have stepped up when they need to , SD and Wilson. Chavez might be best player if winning means anything! Chavez accounted for almost 500 yards on offense against Wilson. Must see this player in person!

My Top Ten:

1) Damien (detroys/exposes Glendora, defense plays big, 53 yd FG, balanced team)
2) Bonita ( Keeps winning,'nuff said)
3) Amat ( Beats Westside SGV #1 S.F., but 3-3. Verti gets to open up bandwagon, all aboard!)
4) Rowland ( bounced back and won , again. Great team chemistry)
5) Covina (McD-Studly gets team back on track and back to winning)
6) Los Altos (serious soul searching after second straight loss)
7) San Dimas (Bounce back win)
8) Baldwin Park (run that horse till..)
9) Glendora(disfunctional on the field and off.)
10) South Hills (Pedigree pick, still beats the hearts of champions)

Good luck to all the teams this week and stay healthy!

It's nice to see covina among the so called top valley teams,they don't look for all the attention and newspaper write-up, just some respect,they are on a roll and will keep rolling, NON STOP...GO COLTS!!!