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Mission Valley League: All League 2006
Tommy Cogburn: WR/DB - SEM - MVP
Brian Partida: QB - AHS - Back of the Year
Anthony Gonzalez: OL/DL - RHS - Linemen of the Year

1st Team Offense:
QB: Jose Garay - SEM
RB: Paul Wilson - RHS
Paul Aguilar - AHS
PK: Bobby Maldonado - RHS
TE: Mike Sotelo - AHS
WR: Marcos Sanchez - AHS
Jesus Lopez - RHS
T: Daniel Centeno - AHS
Andrew Oviedo - RHS
G: Edgar Jimenez - AHS
Alex Tadeo - SEM
C: Adrian Barcelo - SEM
AP: Robert Paniagua - EM

1st Team Defense:
DE: Juan Perez - SEM
Joesph Eddy - RHS
Jorge Change - RHS
Rolan Penaloza - AHS
DT: Edgar Jimenez - AHS
Eric Acosta - SEM
Erik Valle - RHS
LB: Anthony Chavez - EM
Cesar Chavez - RHS
Norman Ceja - AHS
Ricky Pokorny - GHS
DB: Marcos Sanchez - AHS
Justin Fregoso - RHS
Robert Hernandez - GHS
AP: Victor Lopez - SEM

Aram,

I think you make your Tribune awards less significant when you don't get opinions of coaches. Sure, there is a lot of politics in All-League awards, but to not include coach(s) opinions when you make selections is foolish.

Maybe I misread your previous post about your criteria for considering who is a player of the year- but I believe you said you won't listen to coaches. I think that's a big mistake.

So the All area issue is coming out December 27th?

10 TACKLES...20 YARDS DOWN FIELD

All right guys enough crap. Lets put it to bed and start looking forward to next season.

CO beat SHHS in the second round of CIF. Congratulations! Those parents and players at Charter Oak who know me know I am proud of many of your players and their accomplishment. Having been involved in the Charter Oak JAA system. You have a great progam and supportive fans along with one of the best coaches in valley. I'm especially proud of Chris Allen and his accomplishments this year. John Crespo,Thomas Delgado, Andrew Carreon,Evan Williams and host of others. Your my boys and I love and respect you. And I get as much enjoyment out of watching you young men play as I do my own son Its always great to play against a class organization for fun and sport.

I do feel a need to respond to some of the comments made about my son. I'm sure its not some Charter Oak fan who knows of Chris' character but some kid who thinks he does

Ol Pride Thank you for the complement I'm sure one of the winningest coaches (Farrar) in the valley saw something on film and thats the reason he game planned to run at Chris Bowden. I dont agree with the small and soft comment though. Bowden a sophmore MLB fought off two of the biggest linemen in the valley all night as he was double and triple teamed. When a coach sends his biggest and best at you all night long that shows some respect. As for the soft comment, in the third quarter CO was inside the fifteen and tried running the ball up the middle. Bowden met your FB in the hole stood him up and drove him back stopping the play. I think your FB was listed at 220 Oh and he still got 10+ tackles that night. Trust me its not open for debate I've got film.

Just a note in closing. Those of you making comments about Kuklinski. He could start on any team in the valley. Thats a 250lb. heart in a 175lb. body. And he's a hell of a kid

Again congratulations Charter Oak and Coach Lou we'll see you next year

kuklansky wasnt good enough to slow down the weak co offense so stop talking about him

kuklansky wasnt good enough to slow down the weak co offense so stop talking about him

I agree with you Leonard Flores,

That Kuklinski is a warrior! He's a tough kid that takes care of business.

I wonder what Mike the clone thinks about all crying going on with the tribune all star picks. I kind of miss that crazy glendora hell raiser.

hey aram i dont know all the league winners buti do know Workmans winners for Montview League.MVP Awards.

Montview League OFF. MVP= ALEX SILVA QB (WORKMAN)
Montview League DEF.co MVP's= Fransico Ruiz LB (WORKMAN) and Brandon Lee (Duarte)

hey shhs fan im a player on the co football team and the week we played south hills we game planned to run right at chris bowden...hes kinda soft and small

shhs fan,
You sound like a big bummy no one from sh hit for shit you were a .500 team,it wasn't your year so deal with it.That kuklinski kid was just a average player end of story.

Leonard Flores

I will agree with you that Damon Kuklinski had a great season and is a tough Son of a Gun.

Let me remind of a couple of sophmores that played next to Kuklinski.

Bowden rated number two in tackles but arguably more tackles than Damon, plays both ways as well as special teams and had probably the most vicious hit on a SH opponent I saw all season. He hit a kid from Fullerton so hard he didnt move for almost 5 minutes I thought he knocked him into the next zip code. And tough! This kid played the last six games of the season with a broken finger. Hes the kind of kid that will rip your helmet off with your head still in it

Another SHHS sophmore is Wayne Goss led the team in sacks. This kids got a motor thats going 100mph all the time. He flies all over the field. A word of caution to runningbacks in the flats. He reads well and will light you ass up.

Kuklinski yeah hes' pretty good. But these other two kids are exciting

Football Carol,

I think that's the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Mission Valley League: All League 2006
Tommy Cogburn: WR/DB - SEM - MVP
Brian Partida: QB - AHS - Back of the Year
Anthony Gonzalez: OL/DL - RHS - Linemen of the Year

1st Team Offense:
QB: Jose Garay - SEM
RB: Paul Wilson - RHS
Paul Aguilar - AHS
PK: Bobby Maldonado - RHS
TE: Mike Sotelo - AHS
WR: Marcos Sanchez - AHS
Jesus Lopez - RHS
T: Daniel Centeno - AHS
Andrew Oviedo - RHS
G: Edgar Jimenez - AHS
Alex Tadaeo - SEM
C: Adrian Barcelo - SEM
AP: Robert Paniagua - EM

1st Team Defense:
DE: Juan Perez - SEM
Joesph Eddy - RHS
Jorge Change - RHS
Rolan Penaloza - AHS
DT: Edgar Jimenez - AHS
Eric Acosta - SEM
Erik Valle - RHS
LB: Anthony Chavez - EM
Cesar Chavez - RHS
Norman Ceja - AHS
Ricky Pokorny - GHS
DB: Marcos Sanchez - AHS
Justin Fregoso - RHS
Robert Hernandez - GHS
AP: Victor Lopez - SEM

Pretty sad that most schools already had their banquets and still no Sierra All League notifications. Wondering what Glendora Edmonds, Thomas, Kovar earned? Or Harke from Chino Hills?

Does anyone know if CIF releases the information on a website?

Heard Damien's Travis, Mendrun, and De La Torre made All CIF. What gives with the lists? Heard some real surprises were who did not get any recognition.

A Football Carol for you a Christmas time,

Aram, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Aram, whether they be men’s or children’s, are little. In this great universe of ours, man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, Aram, there is Football. It exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no football! It would be as dreary as if there were no Arams. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The external light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Football! You might as well not believe in fairies. You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Superbowl day to catch football, but even if you did not see football, what would that prove?

No football! Thank God! it lives and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Aram, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, it will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

Hindsight,

Interesting post, but doesn't provide the answer to which award would carry more weight. Not that it really is important to know.

For what it is worth, I am of the opinion any time a player receives recognition for outstanding performance, regardless of the selection committee or type of award, it has some value to someone. We will never agree to which award carries the most weight, even the coaches in the "Hindsight" post coudn't agree on this topic. After all, "We are only humans, not Gods" and there will always be someone more deserving that will be overlooked and won't get recognized.

However, ultimately, isn't the REAL award the opportunity for our kids to be part of the football experience. An experience which teaches disipline,self-control and teamwork.

How about the award we receive as parents. My reward was seeing my son play all season. Seeing him suit up in school colors, supporting and contributing in any way he could to his community and team. My reward was waking up each morning with the excitement of High School football on my mind which lasted through the entire day. My reward was seeing my son's enjoyment during the football season and, when the season ended, his anticipation and commitment of keeping himself in the best physical shape for next season. MY REWARD WAS KNOWING MY SON REMAINED OCCUPIED IN HIS FOOTBALL ENDEAVOR AND NOT ON THE STREETS LIKE MANY AIMLESS KIDS WITH NO DIRECTIONS OR PURPOSE IN LIFE.

I am content in knowing my son will have more enjoyable High School memories to share with his kids because of his football experience, than his old man who spent most of High School uneventfully,without a positive recollection or pleasurable memory to share at all.

Football is reward enough!

Thought with ALL the comments about POY, ALL-LEAGUE and ALL-AREA these comments from an April thread by Aram would be great insight towards dealing with these awards. Read the comments from Coach LeDuc and found them pretty refreshing. Great comments on the thread as well:

I can do this because I have the sources. Here's what some of the top coaches in the area think about the legitimacy of all-league and Tribune all-area teams.

Because this ended up being such a hot topic on another thread, I decided to get the opinions of some local coaches because I have access to it.

If any other coaches want to post their opinions, then please leave your name with your post. Start with all-league voting opinion and then Tribune All-Area. Please be honest, there will be no hard feelings whatsoever.

Greg Gano, Los Altos football

All-League: "I've been in some meetings, when I was at Northview, where you'd ask a guy 'What films have you been watching?' And you can quote me on that. I'll give you a story - We had a kid at Northview named Marcel Perez. He was probably the best football players to go to Northview. A coach voted him a zero at linebacker and gave him an eight for MVP. What does that tell you? I really think our (Miramonte League) coaches do a good job. Overall, I think we do a good job because we have guys who know what they're doing. Our league, with Podley, Lou and Oviedo, we talk about it. A lot of it is honest opinion."

Trib All-Area: "To be very honest, I can look at the all-Valley teams for the past couple years and say they've been right. I take your word for it because you've seen all these guys live. You take the kid from Covina (Mike McDonough) and see what he did and he had some of the best statistics in the Valley in some time. And it's not because they didn't play anybody. They played some good football. I might be the last guy you should ask about this because we've had some great players. But last year we had one kid make all-Valley. Three years ago we had six, but we were loaded. There's reasons why. You could say 'Did Los Altos deserve six on the all-Valley?' But at the same time, we had the best six kids in the Valley (at their positions) and they deserved it."

Mike LeDuc, Glendora basketball

All-League: "I think the all-league voting is legitimate. I think they do what they feel in their hearts is right. There are disagreements, but I don't think there's anything unethical. I would say over the years that 90 percent of the time, in my personal experience, ethics is involved and everybody does what they think is right. And there are no grudges or paybacks. I would say 10 percent of the time, and I have been to probably 30 meetings, I would say three times that I felt that (grudges and paybacks)."

Trib All-Area: "In my experience, and I happen to know you, your predecessor, his predecessor and his predecessor, you take a lot of pride in your jobs and I think you do what you can to get it right. I may not agree with every selection, but that means nothing. I think you're very ethical and you do everything you can to get the very best team. Most often, you do. The more interesting argument is whether you should have them or not? You spend 11 months a year telling kids 'It's about team,' and then you spend a month figuring out individual awards. I don't agree with that. I don't understand why we even give out MVP awards. If you go to our banquets, the best player gets the same award as our 15th man."

Darryl Thomas, Covina football

All-League: "I'll tell you what I tell the kids: People are always going to be upset. That's one of the things we talk about as athletic directors - what's the best way to get kids recognized and make sure it's fair? The top tier kids will always get recognized. It's the last few kids who often get left off because of the coaches. It can go either way. Sometimes a coach will score a kid lower just so his own kids get in."

Tribune All-Area: "I think you guys do a pretty good job. You're not going to go 2-8 and be on there. I think you do a good job of getting out there. I know you've talked to me and asked about players. Whether you do it right or wrong, somebody is always going to be unhappy. It was interesting to see four girls from the same basketball team make it. What I really like is that it gets people talking."

Jim Singiser, Arroyo football

All-League: "I think it's probably, at least in football, the most honest indication of a kid's achievements - nine times out of 10. No matter what, you're going to get a general consensus of the coaches. It doesn't mean games can't be played. I think last year was an anamoly for us. It's a Catch-22. The all-league thing had some issues, but by the same token there were some other things going on. The relationship and cooperation between coaches wasn't what it should've been. I would more go with your all-Valley thing than a coaches opinion on who should get it. It's an unbiased opinion. If you're going to have people vote, they ought to be informed. They should know what's going on. I think it all works out in the end. In terms of all-league things, there is politics involved."

Tribune All-Area: "It's not freakin' AYSO, so not everybody has to get an award. I have to suck a little gas this year because I thought Dominic (Salmon) deserved some things and he didn't get in. A lot of it has to do with you have kids from South Hills getting a lot of ink. But they're winning a lot of games. It's like how many games does South Hills have to win before they deserve it? If you put five South Hills kids on there and they didn't win a CIF championship, I'd say you're a homer. But they won a CIF title. If you go to the semifinals like Covina, then you deserve to have a bunch of guys get awards."

Posted by atolegian at 05:10 PM | Comments (20)

Aram has a point. Aram will make the selections and has given everyone the opportunity and venue to comment and has encouraged that dialouge. That sounds fair. Alot of people won't agree with the selections and that's fair. Go ahead and comment and make your analysis and supporting comments. Beats talking behind someone's back. I hear people are still pissed that Auburn's six foot QB Pat Sullivan won the 1971 Heisman Award over....who was it again? That's my point...no one remembers. And that was the Heisman!

By the way it was Cornell's Ed Marinaro who was the first to rush for over 4,000 yards and broke 16 NCAA records. So maybe it'll all work out for everyone concerned. Marinaro went on to Hollywood fortune after a Super Bowl with the Vikings and Sullivan went on to coach college at UAB/Stamford after being a wash out as a pro.

Aram too bad people are coming at you right now without any selections other than Uncle Al's. Wait until they come out...it's going to be a bloodbath. Hopefully not but I doubt it. By the way anyone know where 2005 ALL-AREA WR Alfred Varela's playing these days?

All area,lol does it really matter who got picked for all area,is it a honor or is it a big joke,i mean i know a kid that was selected and that kid was a joke this year he sure is hell was not a all area player so i don't know what in the hell you were watching when you saw him play ,i mean who picked these kids one guy who doesn't look like he played a down in his life. Being selected all league is way more of a honor because the coaches pick it and they sure is hell know more than a newspaper guy.

Pretty please,

Yes, post what you think once the issue comes out. Anybody here is welcomed to do so and I encourage they do. That's part of what this blog is here for.

Aram,

If you provide an analysis of the coaches All League picks, can I provide an analysis of your Tribune All Area picks?

I promise I will be gentle and unbiased!

Aram Awards

Unbiased, No Politics, bigger than CIF Honors, better than peers voting for ALL Leagues.

Very doubtful !

This is a prep sports writer, small valley paper, and there is NO comparsion to the collegiate awards!

What is it with the unyielding need of a few to wander into another's blog and grieve the writer?

Aram is doing a great job. This blog is informative and is a good outlet for some sports talk. This is a great service that is provided free of charge.

I am happy to wait until Dec 27 to find out the entire team. (I already know about a of couple players though!)

Great point...Beatles never won a Grammy! Grammys are politics! Best American Director of his generation (Taxi, Raging Bull,ect)Martin Scorsese never won an Oscar. Oscars are a politics. Glenn Close never won an Oscar for Dangerous Liaisons, lost to Cher for Moonstuck? Oscars are politics. Dominique Wilkins not a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, Steve Garvey, Maury Wills, Buck Owens are not in the Baseball Hall Of Fame but Bill Mazeroski is? Hall of Famers almost boycotted Mazeroski's induction claiming he was not worthy of the Hall! ALL awards are political at times ..there's No denying that. Denying that is to deny human nature.

These awards are as much "team" awards as they are "individual" awards. And yes politics play a role... It's going to be interesting to see how politics played out in the SGV Tribune MVP award. After seeing Uncle Al's comments it might be Mendrun for MVP, Eschardaise for Offensive Player of the Year and Morrison for Coach of the Year... a Damien sweep.

To be continued.

I think Damon Kuklinski from South Hills High School shouls win the award!!!!!!!!!!!1

Just wait until December 27. (next week)

Aram cant wait to pick up the paper with the winner, I hope its someone from WEST COVINA.

My point is not defined by how large the area is (i.e. ALL AREA or ALL LEAGUE), but who selects the players and for what critera. I can care less if the title was ALL WORLD. If it was Santa Claus selecting the the ALL WORLD team, I'm afraid it wouldn't carry the weight of a ALL MAIN STREET team picked by the players or Coaches of that neighborhood. That's my opinion. In this case, serious prep sport fans will always place the weight of the award on who is making the selection.

Ask the recording artist which award to them is more valuable, the one selected by the recording artist association/Rolling Stone Mag or the one selected by the fans/peers. Who will argue this point.

AT,

I don't have time now (gotta START my Christmas shopping!:?(
but maybe if you explained to theses numbnuts the mess that is All-League voting and the politics behind many selections as well as the manner of voting they would realize that many of those teams, while an honor, should be taken with a grain of salt.

Really, there is probably no team selected that is more unbiased and politic free than the All-Trib teams.

Ho-Ho-Ho !!!

Thanks guys, but I'm used to things like this. There are a lot of people out there who don't like me, but so be it.
The Trib has always put a lot of pride into its All-Area football team issue. I've had many notable coaches tell me it's a bigger honor for their kids than making all-CIF.
I think it's the best award any of these kids can get, and I would feel that way if I were selling insurance for a living instead of here.
Call it the "Aram Awards" or whatever clever slight you want to give it, but just make sure you don't buy the issue or view it online when it comes out.
If you want to know who the coaches selected, we'll run the all-league lists in the paper and I will have analysis of all of them on this blog sometime soon.

Good thing that Miss American did not get fired..what a fine lady..and who cares if she likes to hit the booze a little..oh sorry am i off topic

Of course All Valley is Aram's take on the best players in the valley...After all the Tribune is a valley paper...but to say all league carries more weight then all valley...that is a bit of a stretch...Ask anyone in college football if they would rather be all conference or all-american...i know it is on a different level..but the parrallel each other...You see there are many leagues in this valley..so there are many all league teams...there is only one all valley team...you get what i am saying..the all valley is the elite of the all leaguers...congrats to all who made either...Aram you do a great job, in a no win situation....Dont be surprised when you find out who is the POY...i'll tell you this he does not go to any school in the San Antonio League

Just got back from a relaxing 5 days visiting the daughters out there in Sunny SoCal. I purposely stayed away from these blogs to just try and relax and enjoy. Seems that more and more I get to read posts from someone that just gets the hair on the back of my neck to stand up. Like this one.... I can't possibly fathom how much of a brain fart you would have to have to come here and post about an award that your relative got that not been made public yet. Christ..why stop there... now go open all the Christmas presents and tell everyone what they got and from who! That sound you hear in the far off distance is me banging my head against my desk....
I'd be willing to bet that Aram could start a separate thread just wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and someone would have to log in and trash it...

For what it's worth Aram, and not just from this thread... I look forward to your articles..your blogs, your awards and your views. You know a hell of a lot more about the SGV sports scene than I do and I have learned a lot from your articles. I think that you are in a lot better position to know who is deserving of recognition than any of us here...despite what the voices in our heads keep telling us. And to those that think that any awards given out here or advertised here don't really mean anything...tell that to the kid who is running out to get 20 copies of the paper that day that they are printed/announced to send to all his relatives and to show to all his friends. And then tell that to each parent that is cutting out those articles and pictures and putting them in a scrap book. Doesn't matter...yeah right!

Maybe this thread is about what the coaches voted on and selected but it's the Tribune that puts it all together and publishes it. Let them do their jobs and in their own time. I seriously had a belly laugh with the " I don't want to wait..publish it now/tell me now " post ....

I know that it is politically correct to want to make everyone " special " but when that happens then no one really is because then everyone is back down on the same level.

Time to go relax and enjoy the snow up here in the mountains of Arizona. Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas or whatever special time you and your celebrate.

Hey jack, my point exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

Bravetown

Wow! Your a tuff guy!

I thought this was the heading for ALL League posting?

Who cares about the tribune awards?

It's about coaches who know football and select the players!

IF ALL YOU GUYS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A.T. AND THIS BLOG, THAN JUST STAY THE HELL OFF OF IT. YOU MORONS ARE MAKING THIS BLOG ALMOST UNREADIBLE!!!!

All League

I agree with you! This Tribune list is just the Aram Tolegian awards!

It does not matter at this point who is in and who is not. Deal with it. There will always be a bitch about it one way or another. Let the chips fall where they fall...I am sure those picked are deserving and those not picked or for that matter not placed on the first team or are not player of the year get a grip I am sure these kids are not too worried about it. Some of you parents are acting like this is Little League and you want your kid to make the all-star team. Give it a rest already........Aram their will always be the back seat driver / Monday Morning QB when it comes to awards of this Small magnitude.....this is not the Heisman Trophy , this is the the all local tribune awards...most of these kids dont give a rats ass where they place....these are almost grown men and parents are treating this like it is a beauty pagent...good luck to all.....And should McD get the Player of the Year hold back all the bitching because you know there will be some....no one is ever satisfied.......

LA CONQ

I guess you and Aram didn't read the post from Uncle T

Its wasn't a kid opening his mouth it was an adult! Get a clue!

Your right it's not the Heisman or Oscars, because there's allot more creditability that goes into thoughts awards!

Don't know why there is such attention and weight given to the Trib All Area Team. Most sport fans realize that All League status carries way more distinction as it represents the "most feared players or most exciting players" as selected by the coaches who closely study films.

GET OFF this blogg if you dont like what ARAM is doing. Aram keep up the good work and do worry about what those few hatters say its just that there team didnt WIN CIF and they still have a bad taste in there mouth........

Bill Adams...Why are you treating this like it's the Heisman or the Oscars? Relax, it's a high school football all-area team. Put things in perspective pal. Remember, this whole thing is for the kids...not us bloggers. If they already know the team then they've already received the recognition for their acheivements. It's not about you knowing, it's about them knowing!

AT, the sad thing about this blog is it reveals how many SGVers out there are living vicariously through these kids. The pressure must be amazing.

Bill Adams

He doesn't care!

Aram

If it's no big deal, then post the team tonight!

Why wait!

Yeah OK, I should have set up a blood oath with the players not to tell anybody if they make the team.

Aram

Yes it's ridiculous that you don't have committents or controls in place to keep the winners quite before the issue.

This award process is becoming a big Joke!

Bill Adams,

Unprofessional? The players come in every year and get their pictures taken at the Tribune office. That means those who got their picture taken know they made the team. We don't take the pictures the night before the issue comes out. We need time to build pages, write stories and get everything layed out. Sorry if you think that's unprofessional.

Aram

What is this crap? Do the winners already know?

This is totally unprofessional

Is it necessary to divulge who made the Tribune All-Area team? Can we just keep that private until Dec. 27?

I dont know about about all of the All League people but i can brag about my nephew!!!

Anthony Hile made the following

1st team Sierra league
Sierra League Defensive M.V.P
San Gabriel valley Tribune all area 1st team
C.I.F. Southern Section 2nd team.

Congrats Buddy!!!!!!

I will post them here with analysis as soon as I get them. We wil run them in the paper sometime in the next few weeks.

when are you posting the all league teams?