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UPDATED: South El Monte football coaching staff shake-up!!!

South El Monte offensive coordinator Jerry Urias was fired by the school just before Christmas break. Urias had been with the Eagles for four seasons, including the most successful campaign in school history in 2005. Although, controversial at times, Urias was considered one of the top assistants in the area and a major reason for the Eagles' recent turnaround. South El Monte reached the semifinals of the CIF-SS Division VII playoffs in 2005 and finished in a three-way tie for the Mission Valley League championship in 2006.

Eagles head coach Erick Escamilla is fearful that Urias' firing will lead to other assistant coaches leaving in protest. Even Escamilla's own situation is somewhat up in the air, but the 10th year coach said he will likely return.

Urias was an off-campus coach, who graduated from El Monte and played defensive back collegiately at PCC and Temple. He also played in the CFL with Hamilton. He currently also coaches defensive backs at Compton College.

South El Monte should be one of the better teams in the area next season with several key contributors returning, including wide receiver Tommy Cogburn and quarterback Jose Garay.

WEDNESDAY UPDATE: I spoke with Coach Urias and SEM principal Silvia Montero on Wednesday. Montero wouldn't comment. Urias did. There will be an article in the Tribune about the firing on Thursday.

Comments

I ATTENDED SOUTH IN 2003. OUR PROGRAM STANK. SOUTH IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A 3RD OR 4TH PLACE TEAM IN THE MVL. ESCAMILLA IS LIKE WHATEVER.IF SILVIA WANTS A GOOD PROGRAM THEN SHE SHOULD DROP SKY AND HIRE URIAS, ITS THAT SIMPLE.IM A TRUE EAGLES FAN WHO LOOKS OUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE SCHOOL.IF SOUTH WANTS TO CONTINUE SMASHING ON ARROYO LIKE WE HAVE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEN HIRE URIAS AS HEAD COACH,HE HAS THE EXPERIENCE.NOW THAT URIAS IS GONE ITS GOING BACK TO THE USUAL. I THINK NO I KNOW SOMEONE COMPLAINED ABOUT SOUTHS SUCCESS PROBABLY SINGISER OR KOFFLER AND BECAUSE THEIR QUOTE ON QUOTE WHITE THEN THEY WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY THE EMUHSD STAFF , SO TO PLEASE SOMEONE ABOVE HER SILVIA MONTERO FIRED URIAS . MRS MONTERO YOU SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED IN FOOTBALL POLITICS YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON KEEPING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AT YOUR SCHOOL UP AND FOCUS ON TRYING NOT TO SMILE TO MUCH YOU SCARE ME, SHE LOOKS LIKE A FAKE BLOND ARGENTINIAN TROLL. MRS MONTERO YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU CAUSE BY FIRING URIAS , SOUTH FANS WE CAN SAY GOODBYE TO THE PLAYOFFS AND LEAGUE TITLES THAT WE'VE BEEN ENJOYING THESE PAST YEARS. THANK YOU MRS MONTERO AND THE EMUHSD COORDINATORS, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT .

there should be more people like coach urias
helping our kids.

well i got trained by the guy for three years and he's the reason that the whole program changed.. hes the best coach in the area our principle is nothing but a b**** because she doesn't want to look bad in front of the other principles she always treated the football team bad and had no respect for s. we're gonna do everything possible to bring him back because we have the best athletes coming back next year and you know that! so i am promising everyone that south will go undefeated next season!

Araathole 42 (el monte housing)

Scoreboard he got canned!......what some coaches would do to win and inflate their egos...sick that he would give supplement enhancers to Teens. He deserves what he got....good coaching and winning should not come at a higher level than a kids health.......Montero did the right thing.

this shit is HILARIOUS....i luv it...pure comedy!!!!!!!!!!

Hey MATMTWTBAG,

It's so obvious you're the same guy posting many of the negative comments. Just change your name again and post something else that has no truth, but is just speculation or rumor. Coach Urias must really be in your thoughts, because you take time out of your meaningless day to bad mouth him on this board. You must really have it hard for this guy, but you know what's funny while your thinking about what to write next nobody is thinking about you. And that's what really bothers you, because no one knows or even wants to know who you are. I'd bet anything you've never met the man, but the fact that you could never be half the man he is kills you. That's the thing about nobodies' like yourself, you get your kicks by bad mouthing people because your life is so insignificant.

Hey Arroyhole 42,

Uriass obviously got caught doing something illegal and most are claiming politics etc. and even if he did end up elsewhere why did he really get the boot.........???......I have read the drama coming out of your art laboe killer oldies So. Del Monte.....He got his hand caught in the cookie jar and now his reputation will follow him....good coach or not that asterisk will always be by his name.......

MATMTWTBAG,
What the hell does that stand for ?

Can't you read ? several people have stated he already has plenty of offers, he is already coaching somewhere.....

ARAM, can we get an updated basketball SGV top ten???? so we can get back to attacking you......and how about answer to where we can info 2007 future football schedules??

If coach Uriass is that good how come he has not landed anywhere right away..he most likely got carried away and broke some kind of rule......whats the real truth SEM........?......

This blog is my blog, this blog is your blog ...

... this blog was made for you and me

--Aram Tolegian, April 10, 2006

To the blogger who went to private school I guess I failed writing class I also went to private school guess it did not help. You are very fortunate to have gone to private school but just to let you no there is more BS going on in private then public I think you no what I mean. So don't act like a snob this is just a blog session not an essay test so how much do you really no about what is going on at South El Monte High School?? or the District for that matter. I am glad Mrs. Montero has you as her voice are you a relative?
I would like you to name some positive things about Mrs. Montero I think this will clear the air maybe people will think twice is there anything???? You should come down and check out the situation and then you will have something to blog about besides telling everyone there dumb! Like you said Mrs. Montero she get's paid that's all she does is get a paycheck. I suggest you come down to the South side of town instead of being on the other side popping off! So you can evaluate the situation like you said you went to private school your a smart guy and if your as smart as you say you are you will see there are bigger problems then Urias at that school. So come on down and then blog.
PS, People have been fired for less no ones job is secure

Hey Joe Amat,
We heard what you had to say, now get off our blog. Don't get carried away, I think my gardener went to Amat.

Well Said, Mares!! I couldn't agree more, if it isn't such a big deal then shut up. For all those haters like; scout, movin'on EM staff which are all probably the same person, get your facts before you go on the web posting. First of all Jerry wasn't recruting those players from EM. Those players were invited by someone well known in El Monte to get training at Jerry Speed camp. Yes, Joel or his staff were upset and probably jump into conclusing assuming that Jerry was trying to recruit them. People follow Jerry unlike other coaches.

Martin Mares,
Great Job ! Congratulations on all your success.

To all the haters out there that make comments about why this is such a big deal, he's just an assistant coach (walk-on) and all the other crap, please read what Mares and the other people who's (parents and players alike) life has been touch by Coach Urias, this guy has done an outstanding job with these kids and that's why it's a bid DEAL, why parents are pissed-off and why this has hit home with the entire community and all of El Monte is talking about it.
This is not your typical coaching situation, Eric Escamilla is the head coach but everyone knows that Urias was running the show. Everyone who has been to a practice, passing league game, or regular game knows what I am talking about. Martin Mares is not alone, I know of a few other kids that Urias helped in everyway possible to get into schools, both D-I and D-II schools. Even kids now playing on the Jr. All American level that he has helped including my two kids. He takes time to help the kids, teach them and guide them in the right direction, sounds like a horrible guy don't you think. Let's take this for what it is, South El Monte's players have suffered a huge loss, and in some cases their only mentor. It's not every-day your going to get an ARROYO KNIGHT worry about the South El Monte program, but I truly feel for the kids.


Movin' On
"I have been told"
"those are the issues I that have heard about"
In other words you have NO first hand knowledge of the situation. You do not KNOW coach Urias personally. Is this how you come to a conclusion? Though another person thoughts or experiences. This doesn't sound like an educated man. You do have your degree right? Because unless you know him how can you just write what you hear. I heard, your a bald, gay, pervert, who made sexual advances at some of your player. Does that make it fact? Get the point.

ConcernedParent, Urias was not a volunteer. He was a walk-on coach that got hired by the district to coach at SEM. Volunteer means that he worked for free, coaches don't get paid much but he did get paid. And Montero doesn't need a case to fire Urias. He is a walk-on coach and can be let go at anytime. There is no Union for Walk-on football coaches. I am sure she notified the district before coming to her decision. Now if Jerry got his degree from Temple and was teaching at SEM, Montero could still force him to step down from coaching but he couldn't be fired. Principals run each school and the EMUHSD generally supports them 100%. Walk-on coaches have almost zero clout within the district when it comes to job security. Which is too bad because at several EMUHSD schools the majority of their coaches are walk-on's. As for hiring coaches? You have to have teaching jobs available to hire on-campus coaches. With the district closing classes because enrollment is down they aren't going to be in a big hurry to hire a lot of new teachers. If you are worried about SEM getting coaches don't. All this just happened in the last couple of weeks and by May I am sure they'll have all their new coaches ready to go.

Be real. They are not going to keep a walk on assistant coach and fire a principal. It may be unfair or wrong, but it isn't going to happen, period. You can rip on Montero all you want but she is a college educated professional (with a degree), in charge of 1,200 kids and probably makes over $100,000 a year. I'm sure we'd wish all of our kids turned out that bad.

As for Urias, the guy is a good coach & he does care about his players but I have been told: He held several illegal practices & got caught by his own administration. 2 players from EMHS were recruited by and driven too Urias' speed camp by assistant coaches at SEM. He refused to shake hands with EM coaches & made an unsportsmanlike comment to the AD from Rosemead. Urias said (in Aram's article) that he was getting attacked by EM coaches on some message boards, but he challenged EM coaches to fight and called them names on the exact same message boards. He had illegal contact with players during the off-season. SEM has got way more than 1 transfer during his time at SEM. I have also heard the rumors about steroids but I don't believe that anyone would be so desperate to win a football game that he'd give a kid illegal drugs.

Those are the issues that I have heard about.
I know Urias is well liked by players and parents at SEM, but he got a scholarship to Temple & never got a degree. Urias is an excellent example of how an education will take you farther than football. If he'd got a degree he'd be a head coach right now. Urias is a good coach that made some bad choices. He'll land on his feet next season probably at Compton JC. He'll be fine and so will the Eagles so isn't it time to move on? I will start, I am done with this topic.

I wasn't going to put anything on this board, but once I saw a comment about Jerry's family being brought up and lies about him selling "substances" that pissed me off, but also made me laugh at how rediculous some people can be. I do understand how some people can think, "Why are people making a big deal about an assistant coach?" Those who know Jerry know that he isn't just a coach, and if anyone would have gone to watch one of SEM practices or games, he or she wouldn't think he was an assistant. Jerry is much more than a coach, he does so much for these kids on and off the field. Any player coached by him would agree that he has impacted their life in a very positive way, by pushing them to work hard and proving to them that their hard work does pay off whether its by helping them get faster, stronger, or getting their teqhnique done right, or having them compete for a championship.

Those accusations of him recruiting kids are completly false, he may have been a reason why a player would want to go to SEM, to play for him, but he never crossed that line and recruited or asked in any way for anyone to go to SEM. And another reason was for him cussing, wow, if thats such an issue I'm pretty sure every coach in the country would be out of a job. I think it has to do more with maybe that the principal thinks that the kids listen to him more than they listen to her. Whatever her reasons they're more tan likely unjustifiable.

Anyone that knows Jerry pretty well knows me. He began coaching me in high school and has continued to do so even now that I'm in college. He has helped me and many friends of mine and others to get a scholarship and continue playing after high school not only by training us, but by taking us to camps, talking to college coaches for us, and by helping us put highlight tapes together to send to schools. I'm honored to know him and to have been coached by him, because if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be getting a free education and also I don't know if I would still be playing right now.

Alright well this is getting pretty long if anyone read this whole thing thanks and I hope you have gained some or more respect for Jerry. And know this, not being able to coach @ SEM isn't going to kill him, he already has plenty of offers to coach at other schools. And being let go won't stop him from continuing to help out those kids at South either, they will still go to him for any advice they may need or for training, and he will still gladly help them.

Just to clear thing up on whose post is whose (once again) for concernedparent. The name of the author is listed BELOW your post.

If concernedparent looks at his/her post it will be clear. Therefore the allegation on selling substances was posted by "ur worst knightmare", whom I also took issue with a little.

I'd make certain before slandering someone with "idiot" that you first make sure that you were able to construct sentences and spell. Things like "concern's instead of concerns, personal, instead of personell, and the lack of any punctuation or capitilization overemphasizes your obvious El Monte Union education. It makes me appreciate my parents willingness to pay tuition.

I do accept your apology, as I wouldn't want you to worry about a "sue job" .

A lesson for all:
It is better to remain silent and let people think that you are a fool, than to post and remove all doubt.

For Joe Amat i believe he is the idiot!! That is a real strong word allegations of substance selling! Sounds like a sue job in the making. Let's cut all the BS if you really want to no what happen to Jerry Urias and Montero go to the El Monte High School District that's what they get paid for. All concern's
Kathy Furnald-Superintendent

Mr. Morris- Personal for the teachers

Mr. Solerno- For the Students

Here is the number 626-444-9005 all concern parents and student call! You as parents and students have rights and as far as Urias file they should look into Montero's file she is one of those people that just ruins peoples lives and comes out smelling like a rose. For the blogger that said she has class and protecting Jerry you must not have been a victim yet of her lies better wake up she is protecting herself. Word of advice for you KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE BUT KEEP MONTERO CLOSER .

Let's get back to Jerry Urias I have a quick question how do you fire a volunteer????? Let me tell you Jerry Urias has been very positive for SELM he has been very positive for the students. Mrs Montero she has no commit because she HAS NO CASE!!!! She is just a controller she should be running a correctional facility instead of a school!!!!Instead of a Booster Club we have Mrs. Montero instead of fundraisers for the student's we have Mrs. Montero We have NO COACHES you know why you guess it MRS MONTERO!!!! These are just a few things about this lady and none very positive by far!!! She should be a warden instead of a Pricipal she is so fake!!! We need all coaches back and get rid of Montero!!!!! SUPPORT ALL COACHES AT SELM GET THE WORD OUT!!!! GET ALL COACHES BACK AND MONTERO OUT!!!!!

ALL PARENTS GO TO A HIGHER LEVEL THE DISTRICT LET'S SUPPORT ARE COACHES!!!!!

Actually "knightmare" I hate to rain on your rare Mission Valley parade, but Aram himself hijacked the topic (and he has every right to do so!) back on Jan 15 when he posted, " I didn't want to say it yet, but I understand LA is getting a nice infusion."
Posted by: Aram at January 15, 2007 02:47 PM

Since then 8 of the 11 posts have been about topics other than the firing of an *assistant* coach (which I bet has happened to more than a dozen assistants in this coverage area since the season ended.-hopefully a few at our place !)

Hey Joe Amat and MATMTWhatever: Wait, dont tell me you couldnt find an amat topic page on aram's site... Notice how nit-picky I am considering this is a South Monte topic, and a MVL topic, which very rarely come along...seriously... and you joe amat posted the SAME THING three times! Ive noticed a few ARROYO postings, nice to see, and some south postings by certain "idiots" that cant spell, and a couple outsiders... but atleast they have something to say on the current topic, which is not amat! Now lets get back to the topic: Aram, do you have any comment on whether or not the allegations of Urias selling substances had to do with Montero releasing him? Also, can Cogburn transferring to another school be confirmed?

Thanks for the update Joe Amat,

I looked and did not see the "MOUTHS" name in basketball box scores anymore so I figured it was grades or Mouth or departed.......glad it was Departed...he now can become D'ranches Cancer...how are team would love to play D'ranch in football this season and see the Mouth on the other side of ball.

I'm surprised that there has been no talk (or cheers of joy!) about the latest amat departure. It seems that the sophomore"mouth" has "withdrawn" ;) and enrolled at Diamond Ranch.

Addition by subtraction?

I'm surprised that there has been no talk (or cheers of joy!) about the latest amat departure. It seems that the sophomore"mouth" has "withdrawn" ;) and enrolled at Diamond Ranch.

Addition by subtraction?

I'm surprised that there has been no talk (or cheers of joy!) about the latest amat departure. It seems that the sophomore"mouth" has "withdrawn" ;) and enrolled at Diamond Ranch.

Addition by subtraction?

Aram,.....or anyone out there, where can get a look at next years schedules?...is there a site that has future high school football schedules??

I got coach by Urias, he was one of the best coaches that i met as a friend and coach.He never sold substances to anyone when i was there people just like to talk crap.Dont matter who ran the program if it was coach williams who ever ran the program dont matter We as players had fun..To Joel Sanches And to the coach form Mt.View did vote south el monte players last. what ever you have against the coaches dont take it out on the kids. Out coach them make your kids better beat them on the field not on the ballots you sorry asses.

I am hearing the same rumblings that some of our Amat boys will abandon ship and go toward LA and SH for more playing time. Well that goes without saying some parents are never happy with their kids playng time. Amat is a tuff nut to crack. Politics and talent is a tough hurdle for some. Everyone has choices to make and good luck to the ones that leave. The upside for Amat faithful is we have some good talent coming up from JV and Fresh. and it will only be a few that leave but we remain strong and play with what we have plus we will be getting rid of those malcontent parents and all their BS. Los Altos can take them in and then come on here and say that they can run with us in a game....same old BS but LA never says how these castoffs help their program but just continue to run smack on how they can beat Amat straight up.....Man I hope we draw you guys in Non league this year so we can put this to bed once and for all.........I do give my props to Longoria he is one heck of a ball player and his dad is cool and my neighbor....

Jhykron,

... not to mention that good frosh class that will see some players make their way to varsity next year. It could be a good few years for LA.

STOP'' EVERY BODY STOP, LETS ALL TAKE A DEEP BREATH, AND CUT ALL THIS B.S OFF ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ON THIS MATTER , LETS ALL MOVE ON.

"I didn't want to say it yet, but I understand LA is getting a nice infusion."

No kidding, I've heard a few things myself. About 2/3 or so of these rumors end up being BS, but there is some serious rumbling that they might get more than just Amat castoffs next year.

There is a controversy but the full story will never be told unless Principal Montero talks. And she won't because she has class and has chosen to protect Urias. There are other people who know too but they won't go on record and speak. That story Aram wrote was a joke because it was all based on Urias's side, which was all based on lies. This guy has a laundry list of CIF indiscretions that will probably never come out. Let's just say Montero was tired of being embarrassed and put an end ot it so it wouldn't continue. SEM is better off.

Hey Old Fan,
That's right, I agree with you 100% and that's what the El Monte's coaching staff is like. I was pissed when I 1st heard that had happened, and other schools knew about it and expressed their concerns, but that's where it died out. The El Monte staff should have been held responsible for their actions. Like I said before (Urias did the right thing not shaking hands with the HC from the El Monte Kitty cats).

I didn't want to say it yet, but I understand LA is getting a nice infusion.

I hear that Principal Montero is getting visitors in her office !!! The parent's are upset about this, more info later when we hear about it.....

Since when did Los Altos become a catholic school ?

Rumor has it that Cogburn will be transferring to a Catholic school thats notorious for getting transfers every year.

I didn't know you allowed people to use bad language on this website Aram. You are slipping.

I know Urias is a great coach. No one will dispute that. Is he rough around the edges..absolutely. But the question is "Rough" to who? SEM needed a coach like Urias. Parents know the value of a man like Urias. He provides them with "tough love and tougher discipline".

Reminds me of the Arkansas Bowl game when the announcers made mention of a "parents" meeting with the Athletic Director and School President where "parents" voiced their concerns about the direction of the program and their kids playing time..IS THAT CRAZY!!! Parents are out of control. Even at the college level.

I know Coach Urias will bounce back from this disaster but will the kids? Oh well another good man on the grill. Reminds me of the "crab" analogy. No need for a lid when the other crabs will pull you down before you get to the top.

Good luck Coach Urias...you are loved and appreciated by those you mentored and helped. And to those assholes from EM..the only way I shake their hands is if I'd wiped my ass first. Any one realize that Comptom College had over 20+ Division 1 signees ...must be the coaching.

Something Urias said should be of a lot more concern than an assistant coach losing his job. He said that one team voted players Last on all-league ballots. If that is true, the coaching staff of that team that did that should be given all the respect of pedophiles. It is certainly child abuse to allow kids from another school to be punished for petty rivalries. Where is the character and maturity that sports are supposed to develop?

THANKS ARROYO 42

OK BE REAL DO WE REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN TO URIAS?
YOUR A DUMD ASS AS MUCH AS I AM AT LEAST I COULD ADMIT THAT.
ARROYO WILL ALWAYS WIN GAMES BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION LOVE TO BRAGG ABOUT IT AND SUPPORT THE COACHES THERE.
ROSEMEAD WILL ALWAYS GIVE ARROYO A FIGHT BECAUSE KLOFFLER SOMETIMES MAKES STUPID MISTAKE BUT HAS THE SUPPORT FROM THE ADMINSTRATION AS WELL
GABBY WELL THEY ALWAYS GIVE TEAMS TROUBLE BUT FINISH EITHER 3RD OR 4TH
WELL WE KNOW SOUTH EL MONTE HAS ESCAMILLA BY HIMSELF SO EXPECT THEM TO STRUGGLE.
EL MONTE HIGH AND MT VIEW HIGH REALLY SUCK.

YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING
I BET MONTERO WANTS TO GET INTO THE DISTRICT AS A SUPER ATTANDANT THAT SHE WILL DO ANYTHING TO PLEASE ANYONE. AND SOMEONE ORDER URIAS TO BE FIRED AND TO LOOK GOOD SHE HAD TO FIRE HIM.
HEY ARROYO 42 DIDNT URIAS COACH AT ARROYO WHEN REYNA WAS STILL THERE. I REMEMBER THEM WINNING LEAGUE AND GOING 10-0 I BET YOU USE LOVE HIM THEN

WELL IF YOU WANT TO CHAT CALL ME 626 473-2456 ASK FOR IDIOT

Scout,
I am so proud of you, that's a lot of writing without using your CRAYONS. Pretty good list of players you put together, sound like you are an ARROYO fan after all, but why wouldn't you be. We own most of the MVL tittles. I'm done with you, your too easy to bag on (it's not even fun anymore). Go knights

ARROYO 42
JERRY PLAYED RB AND DB, JOEL PLAYED TE AND LB, JERRY WENT ON TO PLAY AT PCC FOR TWO YEARS,WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP AT TEMPLE. JERRY LED THE TEAM IN TACKLES, BUT WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE DL AND THE LB'S TEMPLE IN THE BIG EAST IS LIKE PLAYING FOR MT.VIEW.
JOEL PLAYED AT APU WON A NATIONAL TITLE IN 1998 AND WAS ON WINNIG TEAMS NOT TO MENTION HE PLAYED BASEBALL FOR APU.
YOU CANT COMPARE THE TWO AS ATHLETES BECAUSE THEY PLAYED 2 DIFFERENT POSITION......BESIDE THEY BOTH PLAYED FOR EL MONTE HIGH AND NEITHER OF THEM DID ANYTHING. WHAT REALLY COUNTS IS HOW MANY MVL TITLES YOU HAVE. AND BOTH HAVE NEITHER. JUST ANSWER ME, THIS JERRY CAT SHOULD BE A HEAD COACH AND WHY ISN'T HE ONE YET? DOES HE HAVE A DEGREE AND AS FOR VOTING IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME OF COURSE COACHES WILL VOTE LOW ON SEVERAL PLAYERS BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR OWN PLAYERS TO GET AWARDS, BESIDES AWARDS ARE OVER RATED. TELL ME THIS OLD MAN (CLASS OF 86) I HOPE YOU DONT TAKE YOU LETTERMANS TO GAMES OR HANG OUT AT LAMPOST AFTER. BUT BACK TO YOUR GREAT MIND OF THINKING. WHO WAS A BETTER PLAYER D.J. HOYT (MR. FUMBLE) OR WILLIE REYNA......OR KENNY SMITH OR RONNIE WILLIAMS. OR HOW ABOUT THIS MAC KENNON OR SINHISER WHAT EVER HIS NAME IS THE HC THERE. BETTER YET SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THIS TIME IN THE WORLD WHY DONT YOU TELL ME YOUR ALL TIME ARROYO TEAM BY DECADES....

Good to see all the Arroyo guys supporting other MVL teams. But let's go back to the comments and the news-paper article, the part that involves the EL Monte staff. I did hear about the problems with the Lions HC and his chicken-shit ways to take things out on the kids (from South). It's all about jeolousy and not being able to accomplish things on your own, this Joel Sanchez character played with Urias and wasn't even close to being the type of player Urias was. I had the chance to see them both play, and Urias was head and shoulders above him, and now he's ten times the coach he is. I think Urias did the right thing to avoid confrontation and showed him it was meaningless. Sanchez needs to quit acting like a baby and concentrate on his team, help your kids get better and improve your program, don't worry about anything else. He shouldn't even get a vote until he get's EL Monte out of the bottom of the celler. That way teams will quit scheduling you for their homecoming game.

Knight 42 it seems to me you know nothing about coaching football, your one of those wanna bees , always second quessing the coaches from the stands. i hear you guys all the time. If you know football you should know that it takes talent on the field to win ball games. Jerry is a fine coach no dought, but with the talent that south had in 2005, most coaches would had made a run. so did rosmead, an arroyo, the record stands for itself. now lets look at 2006 WHAT HAPPEN MR. KNOW FOOTBALL. SUDDENLY MVL, WIN RECORD WENT SOUTH WHY BECAUSE WE LOST ALL TALENT, it will take a couple of years to build up again. especially south el monte because student enrollment is so low,about 1,200 students. SO LETS GIVE CREDIT, TO ALL OUR HEAD COACHES, AND ASST.AND ESPECIALLY OUR PLAYERS BECAUSE THERE THE ONE THAT MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. GO EAGLES. GO MVL.

A head coach is responsible for his staff. So even if Urias did the play calling it was Escamilla who led the team. Schurr High won CIF because Coach Dick allowed Joey Jordan to call plays from up in the booth. Jordan is a mastermind when it comes to offensive plays, but Coach Dick kept the team focused on their task at hand.

Hey LOL,
I would agree with you if Jerry didn't accomplish everything he set out to do, don't make stupid comments if you are not informed properly. This guys Urias was a one man show at El Monte and All Conference at PCC, got himself a scholarship to play in the Big East at Temple and was invited to camp by the San Francisco Forty Niners, played professionally in Canada. Where do you get living through his newphew from all of that ?

If the web-site is so horrible, what are you doing logging on ? It got your attention didn't it. This is a great source of information and a way to keep up with sports in the SGV. ARAM, YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB, KEEP IT UP.

THE SCOUT,
It's funny to see how you just confirmed everyone's opinion of you (YOU ARE AN IDIOT).
Let me help you out and show you how to write, see below :

didnt you guys had a coach = didn't you guy's have a coach

I can wait what kind of respond = I can wait to see what kind of response (try something like that).
Maybe Rosemead should offer their students some English as a second language classes. By the way when did Rosemead Kill us ? What are you talking about, I graduated from Arroyo back in 86 and your right about the Arroyo pride, but that's about the only thing you been right about.
By the way, the village called and they want their idiot back, good luck.

Knightstalker,
From what I know Eric Escamilla is a really good guy, I was just saying that Urias made all of their success possible and put them over the hump. I know this is a bad situation for both guys, from what I hear they got along great and work together well. My take is the Urias is a better candidate for HC and knows how to get the best out of his kids, at the same he looks out for them and the players love him.


hahahahahaha.....urias is just living his dream through his newphew following him were ever he goes.....whats going to happen when he ever goes to a university to play....dont you need a degree to coach in that level......this web site is horrible it just creates just rumors

Wow, how many of you people actually know this man? Yet you seat there anonymously spreading rumors without knowing the facts. For those that do know him, know that hes made alot of sacrifices in his life not only for his nephew but for the entire SEM football program. Coach Urias has accomplished so much and touched so many of these kids lifes, it really doesn't matter what any of you say. The opinions that really matter are the kids who's lives hes touched. As far as I'm concern that school was lucky to have him for that long. I'm sure he will move on to bigger and better things.

hmm ... by arroyo, what are the good donut places I know of? I can't think of any. I know I've been to that one right by the Mobil on Lower Azusa and Santa Anita, but I don't think it was anything special. There is a decent spot down Santa Anita on Garvey. I tend to associate Arroyo with Alfredo's (Alberto's when I first started going there).

FIRST LET ME SAID THIS....ARROYO 42 AND THE OTHER SIDE KICK OF HIS...KINGHTMARE...ARROYO PEOPLE THERE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU ONCE YOU LEAVE THEIR PROGRAM.... THEY DONT LIKE YOU....THEY DONT HELP YOU GET RECRUTED INTO COLLEGE....OR TAKE EXTRA TIME TO HELP YOU GET BETTER....THEY ARE SELFISH....RIGHT NOW YOUR ALL IN LOVE WITH ARROYO PRIDE BUT IF THEY EVER FIRED YOU OR YOU LEAVE THAT'S IT....YOUR NOTHING.....OH YEAH DIDNT YOU GUYS HAD A COACH GET FIRED AND ARRESTED FOR DRUG POSSETION.....IM GLAD SOUTH BEAT YOU GUYS SEVERAL TIMES....I LOVED IT....I LOVED WHEN ROSEMEAD KILLED YAH.....LIVE IN THE PAST....LIKE MOST OF YOU HIGH SCHOOL GUYS (THAT NEVER PLAYED IN COLLEGE OR PRO LEVEL) DO.......MVL IS WEAK....WEAK....WEAK....TO BE HONEST MVL SHOULD DROP TO DIVISION EIGHT OR TEN....ARROYO YOU GUYS CRY ALOT WHEN THINGS DONT GO YOUR WAY....I CANT WAIT WHAT KIND OF RESPOND YOU GUYS WILL POST.....WHILE IM CHILLING.....YOUR PROBABLY SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR GETTING ALL UPSET..AT WORK......WHY DONT YOU LOSE WEIGHT....STOP EATING THOSE DONUTS....BUDDIE....

Hey 42 when Urias was that freshmen coach at SEM didn't they lose to Arroyo's frosh team (it was an awesome game btw!) & then lose to Rosemead the very next week? I thought they did, but either way those three teams AHS, SEM & RHS were loaded at that level.
You can't say SEM would be nothing if it weren't for Urias & follow it by saying that he was the reason for the improvement they've made... and it not be a knock on Escamilla. A head coach doesn't necessarily have to call plays, but he does have to lead. It is hard to be a leader when you leave your team for 1-2 summers to get your Master's & you turn control of the team over to a walk-on assistant coach. Escamilla is a really good guy, but the knock on Escamilla is that he isn't a leader. Leaders don't give up control of their program. From what you and other SEM fans have said, that has been the case. As for Urias, I think worst case he broke rules and got caught. Best case he probably made some questionable decisions. That probably means the truth is somewhere between.

First, I want to agree that THE SCOUT is this blog's equivalent of a village idiot, his posts are wrong on soo many levels.. I think that Arroyo 42 did a great job of setting the record, and THE SCOUT, straight.. but I am not convinced that ARROYO would want a guy who doesnt shake hands with coaches from his own alma mater of all schools..and Urias confessed to that because of some voting situations...? Thats not very sportsmanlike, is it? But then again, I know from first-hand observations that south el monte high has been known to have the least sportsmanlike teams in the MVL..especially in football. and they can hang that next to their tri-champ banner if they want...
In other knight knews, the boys basketball team at ARROYO is projected to win the MVL this year. If they do, with the help of first year head coach Lydell McCullough, it will be the first since 1998. Also, the Lady Knights will attempt to defend another girls basketball championship and the heavily competed for throne on top of the MVL this year. Long time Lady Knight head coach Mike Gorball is very popular and loved on the north el monte campus. Show your support as they travel to arch-rival rosemead on friday the 12th of January. GO KNIGHTS GO!

Coyote 62,
As one of the people that know football I can tell you that without Jerry Urias (NOTHING) would have been accomplished at South El Monte, this is not a nock on Escamilla. It's that Urias is a great coach. The run they have made in the last few years is because of Urias, remember he coached their Freshmen team to a one lost season while the varsity did nothing. Once he moved up then we started to see the turn-around. Like I said before I hope they do well and keep it up, I like to see the MVL do well, no matter which school it is. Oh, OK, maybe not Rosemead, by the way I like your comment on the 10-0 start.

Careful rosemead. lets see , um" remember the play nobody season 10-0, and can you please remind us what happen on the first round cif playoff, OH could be that you lost to a third place team, no, really. and lets see despite south worst game of the season six fumbles, and leaque star quaterback lee, hurt and out for the game. Barely won the game. sgvpride i be care on bragging rights that you win league. I belive the league is a three way tie south, arroyo, and rhs. Oh, and by the way dspite jerrry misfortune SOUTH WILL BE OK, COACH ESCAMILLA , HEAD COACH. WILL PREVAIL. JERRY WAS A GREAT ASST. BUT ITS ECAMILLA THAT PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. THAT WHAT A HEAD COACH DOES. JUST ASK ANY HEAD COACH IN THE LEAGUE. YOU KNOW LIKE POPLE THAT KNOW FOOTBALL......

I thing I would like to know is who made the
MVL 1st and 2nd team....thanks

Chain of Command...........and........Politics...
Will either get you HIRED or get you FIRED.......
but we as people always move on and forget everything in couple of days.....Urias will be alright he know what he can bring to a program...but that's life...South El Monte will be alright.....I have lots of respect to all the coaches in the MVL....and want to wish every coach good luck in the up coming season and can't wait to see you guys play....

John Luque
Department of Communication Studies
University of Nevada - Las Vegas
4505 Maryland Parkway
Box 454052
Las Vegas, NV 89154-4052

THE SCOUT (who is this guy) your an IDIOT.
Calling out family members and misspelling names, get your info right. Also, I would not be bragging about Rosemead because we have been kicking your ass for 20 years now !!!!! You should be able to spell MacKinnon after all the wins he's posted against HOSEMEAD.

I will have a column of sorts to run tomorrow about the Urias situation. I think it's very interesting on a multitude of levels. And I think it's going to have some further consequences. These are very interesting times in the MVL. Believe me when I tell you, this is going to be one of the most important off-seasons in quite some time in the MVL.

I think the issues Urias had were mostly with EM. I do think your right about Cogburn not having as good a year if he played at Arroyo. The system they used was perfect for him. You also said, "Mares & Cogburn helped AHS win plenty of games?" Maybe you are thinking of different players? They played on 2 of the worst Arroyo teams in the past 20 years in 2000 & 2001. They did win one league championship (2002) & got to the 1/4 finals. Mares & Cogburn were great players on 2 bad teams. You also said hat, "Arroyo
hasn't done much since MacKinnon left?" They have won 3 MVL championships in 4 years. Just go buy a program everything is right there in black and white. I know they have more wins, titles & CIF wins the past 4 years than in MacKinnon's last 4 years. Your wrong on that one, but I do agree with you that Escamilla was smart to step down & let Urias call the offense. But is anyone saying Urias got fired for being a bad coach? I'd be really careful about throwing out comments about a guys family, though. What the heck does Urias' family have to do with him deserving to be fired? As for RHS always winning league, etc. Haven't you guys lost 4 out of the last 5 games to Arroyo? You guys are good and will stay that way as long as Koffler stays as Head Coach. One more thing, it's funny that every transfer you mentioned was under MacKinnon. Are you accusing him of recruiting?

i hope u have everything straight tho aram

Yes, I heard about it. I will have something on it soon. Things are degenerating in that league.

wow aram did u hear about that duarte & workman baketball game?

IT SOUNDS LIKE ARROYO HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH COACH URIAS FIRING....Tommy Cogburn WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THE SAME PLAYER IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT ARROYO. BRET (TOMMY'S OLDER BROTHER)WAS TRAINED BY URIAS SAME AS MARTIN MARES AND THEY HELP AHS WIN PLENTY OF GAMES. AHS WASN'T CRYING WHEN BRET TRANSFERED FROM ST.FRANCIS. AHS WASN'T CRYING WHEN THEY TRANSFERED SHAUN COZORT IN 97. AHS WASN'T CRYING WHEN THEY HAD GABE ARREGANO FROM 94 WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSE TO ATTEND EL MONTE. YES, ESCAMILLA STEPPED DOWN AS OFF. CORDINATOR BUT THATS BECAUSE HE WANTED TO WIN. HE WASN'T STUPID. ARROYO HASN'T DONE MUCH SINCE MC KENNION LEFT AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PERSONAL PROBLEM. URIAS AND HIS FAMILY ALSO DID BRING THIS UPON THEMSELVES.
WE ALL KNOW ROSEMEAD WILL CONTINUE TO WIN LEAGUE AND MT.VIEW WILL GET LAST PLACE FOR SURE. SO WHY IS EVERY ONE MAKING A BIG DEAL OF SECOND THROUGH 4TH PLACE IN THE MISSION VALLEY LEAGUE.

I think it is time to get Deno back to coaching football. He played college football and has a wealth of knowledge. Coach Bunting can you come back?

Guess that Head Coaching job you were talking about just took a hit, huh? A walk-on coach that got fired from a MVL school! That won't look to good on his next resume & it probably killed him to be a head coach in that league.

Let's hear some of the so called circumstances.
Help me understand how a coach that puts' in time and effort to help the youth in El Monte (regardless of what school they attend) can be called out as controversial and fired, if we are talking about Tommy Cogburn then you need to ask his parents why they wanted him to go to South El Monte and not Arroyo. Believe me, I would have loved to see him as a Knight, but I respect his parents decision to do what's best for the kid. Well, anyway you look at this, it doesn't make any sense and leave it up to South El Monte to mess up a good thing. I hope you enjoyed the two consecutive victories over ARROYO, it had been 10 years and it's going to be ten more before you see another one. GO KNIGHTS GO.
(IF SOMEONE OVER AT ARROYO IS LISTENING, LET'S GET THIS GUY NOW WHILE WE HAVE THE CHANCE...) I want to see Escamilla get coach of the year now, yeah right, Jerry was, is and always will be the guy that save that sorry-ass program, for the kids sake I hope they learned how to win and continue what he started.

All this talk about coaches leaving reminded me of a joke.

At A booster club meeting the coach explains that he must move on to a larger school that will pay him more. There is a hush within the booster club. No one wants him to leave.

Joe Smith, who owns several car dealerships in the City, stands up and proclaims: "If the coach stays, I will provide him with a new Cadillac every year and his wife with a Honda mini-van to transport their children!"

The booster club sighs in appreciation and applauds. Sam Brown, a successful entrepreneur and investor, stands and says, If the coach will stay on here, I'll personally double his salary and establish a foundation to guarantee the college education of his children!"

More sighs and loud applause. Sadie Jones, a players' grandmother age 88, stands and announces with a smile, If the coach stays, I will give him sex."

There is total silence.

The coach, blushing, asks her: "Mrs. Jones, whatever possessed you to say that?"

Sadie's 90-year old husband, Jake, is now trying to hide, holding his forehead with the palm of his hand and shaking his head from side to side, while his wife replies: "Well, I just asked my husband how we could help, and he said, 'Screw the coach'.

Can somebody expand on the "controversy" that Aram is referring to?

If he was just a walk on coach, how did he get fired? Does anyone know why? Or what the circumstances were?

I agree with Cj Cano's dad about what a shame this is, I keep reading things like controversial, if that means not turning kids away when they ask for help then we should all be controversial. Let me also correct you on the comment that he WAS considered one of the top assistants, he's much more than that. He really has been the Head Coach at South El Monte and they need to be thankful to him for everything he did for their program and the kids at that school, without any support from the administration. He is one of the best coaches period. It's funny how much the Principal loved him during their playoffs run, how everything was peechy and non-controversial. He has taken the time to guide their player in the right direction, I know that's the only help some of them have had from anyone at that school. The South El Monte administration is a JOKE. That double digit midget that calls herself the Principal better get more involve with the students welfare and realized that athletics is a huge part of their everyday life, and the discipline and impact that will have in their future.
From what I am hearing around town from the parents, they are angry about what's going on and some of the players are talking about not playing. I would think any school would love to have someone with the experience and knowgledge he brings to the table, along with the drive to help kids get better on and off the field. Take a look at that website and see how many kids he has helped and ask around to see how many more he is helping now, then expalin to me how this can happen. What a JOKE.

after years of trying to get the right coaches for sucess, coach escamilla finds himself trying to find coaches for the 2007season. I guess winning is not top prioirty with the head honcho, at south. Finally after years of dissapointed seasons. the fans , parents,and community, found something to be proud of and full of pride to be part of SØUTH EL MONTE. JUST LOOK AT THE CROWDS AND FANS , PARENTS ON FRIDAY NITES, I hope that coach escamilla can continue sucess. and lets continue to support him and his staff.

wow there must be nothing going on in the valley at all right now haha

It's a shame they fired him. Jerry has a lot to offer to any school. Jerry has a speed training camp during the offseason and summer. It definitely helped my son improve his speed. I wish him the best of luck. If anyone is interested in his speed camp, Checkout www.uriasspeed.com. There a lot of people he has helped get to the next level, including the college level.

Cj Cano's DAD

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