jeremy & joe amat

A perfect example of ur guys arguement is Amats Wrestling team. Amats team was also displaced from the serra league due to the football realignment. From what i understand, they had a hard time finding a league that would let us in ! Amats team was going to have to freelance until the Miramonte league let us in. I'm sure the AD's & Head Coaches are having second thoughts on letting us in. ( No disrespect ) We went from D2 to D5 & dominated league & CIF Duals & will be ever stronger next yr ! We Had 12 CIF qulifiers, 2 CIF Ind Champs, 5 Masters Qualifiers & 2 State Qualifiers. In wrestling, once ur in CIF Ind, most Div's R combined & at Masters all Div's R together D1 thru D6 unlike any other sport u throw Div's out the window ! In wrestling if ur the best it does'nt matter what div ur in !

No worries. Just an explanation, no swagger involved. And I can't drive by the Golden Arches without the kid pulling me in.

Face it, us lancers can't swagger about recent performance, unless we're talking about girls basketball. I'll always argue history, because most schools would be psyched to have in the last five years a couple of baseball championships, a boys basketball championship, a few girls basketball titles, wrestling, and track & field individual championships in the last five year.

Now OUR problem is assuring that we get those with the wherewithall and aspirations to keep that going (or get that back - whichever the case may be).

Joe Amat,
I MAY have "flown off the handle." However, I did sense that swagger of "superiority" that seems to run rapid amongst the citizens of the Golden Arch Nation.

The benefit is yours, MY apologies.

you guys are funny! poor joe amat, mike the clone and that damien guy. everybody picks on them. U know what i think? those 3 guys right good and sound smart and ITK. U R just a bunch of testosterone filled alphas that are jealous:) JA sounds like anyone of a bunch of old players, dads, and coaches that hang around cortez park when the west co bruins play. I dont no what makes JA special about coaching with all those guys. in my daughters league I no about 10 dads from different schools and they all stand around with there arms crossed on there bellies and bs there schools. i guess someone wuz calling him out 4 hating on everyone maybe hes just trying to show luv for other schools. N E wayz - ease up on calling each other out and have fun!

As a former high school coach Joe Amat is a disgrace to his former profession. An absolute disgrace.

Someone KNOWS this loudmouth know it all put everyone down jerk.

Someone from Bishop Amat? Who is this guy so we can all judge HIM like he judges and disects everyone?

WHO IS JOE AMAT?????????????????

joe joe joe...i...i...i... now i get it all about...u...u...u...u

Jeremy,

Easy big fella. Once again READ what was said. I NEVER said anything about playing DOWN in the Miramonte league or even once alluded to how amat might compete in that league. PLEASE right back and state exactly where you got THAT from . Although I do think that your 3rd place prediction is wishful thinking on your part. Recent history with CO and comparitive scores say otherwise, but we'll never know so that conversation is futile.

Actually, I was the one who 1st said that "The Bogan, Farrar, Gano Era" has contributed to the downfall of amat - because the administration did nothing to keep up. I have coached with coaches from all three schools, in multiple sports, have coached some of their players (and some coaches now that I think about it) and without fail I root for all three EVERY time they play(except when the Chargers manned up and played the lancers). I've had to make the tough call and sit on the CO side one half and the LA side the other.

What I did ask, exactly, was "...Do you think FOR ONE SECOND that any AD in their right mind in the Miramonte league or San Antonio League would ALLOW amat in? " Maybe you can tell me your opinion on that one. You might even list what ADs might support such a move.

Then ask yourself the question that I posed next.
"What advantage would that be for them? " What do you think the advantage might be?

Here is the reality, regardless of WHAT team they are looking to let in. "Going from a 5 team to a 6 team league does not get you any more automatic playoff spots (3 for each) . There is no scheduling advantage because with TWO local leagues having 5 teams they can cross schedule and the teams with byes in any given week can play each other if they choose anyway, and many do in many sports."

Finally Jeremy, please explain what about the above is "arrogant, blind, or ridiculous.

Joe Amat,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Seriously- What you are saying is totally ridiculous, and utterly ARROGANT. Most of all BLIND! Your football team for example would have finished in third place in the miramonte league this last season.

Do you hear what you are saying? Just because you play in the Pac-5, doesn't mean you are Pac-5. Getting smacked around by the best, DOES NOT constitute BEING one of the best. LA and CO would have finished third in a league like the Moore league, and probably lose first round in the Pac-5 playoffs, but NOT without a RESPECTABLE fight.

If your atheletes and coaches came "down" to the Miramonte League with that arrogant attitude you guys wouldn't even make it out of league via a RUDE AWAKENING!

LA is getting some SERIOUS atheletes coming in at the lower levels, be aware of that disrespect that you are weilding around.

FYI- I respect Amat, that is why I want to play them. Let's make that respect mutual. Besides as far as geography is concerned, we are all brothers and sisters here. Nobody outside our little valley respects us, not really. They are too young to remember Amat's glory days, South Hills' victory over St.John Bosco at the BIG "A", Los Altos's victory over Esperanza in 1982, etc. WE need to restore that together, and support one another with a sense pride, commradery, and RESEPECT for our fellow valley programs. Especially our marquee programs.

JP,

I'm having a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Help me - help you! If you would just listen (or read) - you might learn! Go slow - maybe even read each sentence twice. You might even go back and read some previous posts for some background info to help you.

There is no "blame" going around, no one is trying to "justify" anything and certainly excuses do not need to be made. The dictionary doesn't *justify* words it defines them. Encyclopedias do not make excuses for topics they *explain* them. All I am trying to *explain* to you how things work instaed of you relying on things like, "...This all points to the CIF calling Amat and asking them..." Do you REALLY think that is how it works? CIF *initiates* a call to ASK someone? Again - Urban Legends, Old Wives Tales, Outdated Rules, and Rumors. An old teacher used to tell me that it's not only that you know, but where to find out. Do a little research and educate yourself before you embarrass yourself. This link might help you a bit
http://cifss.org/uploadpdf/releaguingconfigurations.pdf

Here's why Parochial schools "bounce around" as you say. It's already been explained that there exists an association that consists of 2 leagues that rotate teams. amat has belonged to that association in other sports. Within that association, amat and Bishop Montgomery have also filled in to the Serra league in certain sports, because the Serra league only had 4 teams. It makes sense for leagues to have at least 5 teams because then they get 3 playoff slots instead of only 2. Using another example, Montgomery was in the Serra league in Volleyball(where they were strong) in the Del Rey for basketball, and in the Camino Real(the weakest of the 3). They NEVER had the option to join the local South Bay league. Why? Because their exists a "Paraochial Area Releaguing" grouping containing all of the larger private schools. The OC schools are no longer in this rotation because they have their nice little 6 team league that they are happy with - no one else is invited. Because amat is a "Parochial Area" school they DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION, of asking the 5 school Miramonte league or San Antonio League for admission, even if they were inclined to do so (which they never would be).

Damien has been allowed to reamain in the "Mt. SAC Area" because a parent actually filed a lawsuit, as was mentioned earlier. If I remember right it was a parent in a "minor sport" like water polo. Maybe a Damien parent can help with that one.

Do you think FOR ONE SECOND that any AD in their right mind in the Miramonte league or San Antonio League would ALLOW amat in? What advantage would that be for them? Going from a 5 team to a 6 team league does not get you any more automatic playoff spots (3 for each) . There is no scheduling advantage because with TWO local leagues having 5 teams they can cross schedule and the teams with byes in any given week can play each other if they choose anyway, and many do in many sports.

So you go where you are assigned. You can bitch and moan, petition and sue (or threaten to do so) and have it all fall on deaf ears. And really, do you want to do that to the same group that is creating the playoff brackets?

Kind of like an official that asked me once,
"you didn't like that call?....well, wait 'til you see the next one!"

Sorry to break into the latest Amat, he said, she said, but does anyone kow how the playoff seedings for the Glendora Tournament are calculated? The Championship game is a no brainer with Amat and Crescenta Valley playing at 7 Saturday, but what about the 3rd and 5th place games. Of the three teams that were 2-1, Glendora, Charter Oak, and Bonita, who plays for #3 and #5? (I know, who cares; but I had wanted to see Bonita and CO play each other.

None of the three played any of the others head to head, and no combo of RS, RA, or RS-RA differential makes any sense. What gives?

Joe (knows everything) Amat,
I am sure glad you understand that your reading comprehension is limited!
If leagues are placed in divisons based on performance, explain why Amat baseball keeps bouncing around? Why is "one schools" performance taken into consideration?
Place them into the 5 team San Antonio League for baseball, at least thats Division 3!
Since the early 90's Amat baseball has gone from Division 4 to Division 1 to Division 5 and has played in 3 different leagues. Fishy? This all points to the CIF calling Amat and asking them, what and where would you like to play?
History of CIF is to look at the performance of schools and reassign them, not reassign leagues.
You are sitting there trying to justify why Amat is where they are, hence excuses!! Since Amat was beating up the Del Rey league, they moved up. Ironic to a Division they belong in. (1) Now, you can't win a league title or a CIF title and your moved down?
So Amat, since you get to pick and choose your opponents, pick wisely and "man up"!
Here you go, Orange Lutheran petitioned to move up to Division 1 after years at Divison 4 and going through many highs and lows, your "emergence", just found a way to play at that level. (there's one school for you) State Football Title!
You call yourself a realist, then stop blaming others (CIF) for what goes on and accept responsibility for the "fall" of Amat. Face it, your "circling the drain" and can't stop it!

MATMTWTBAG,

While we have no control over the teams we play in league, it's important to step up and play good non-league competition.

Do you know how good is the Bishop Gorman tournament. I'd hate for baseball to go the route of boys basketball and play the likes of Rosemead, Sierra Vista, Bassett and then get in low level tournaments like the Calvary Chapel tourney just to get their 12 wins and qualify for playoffs. That program seems to be our worst embarrasment.

Having Bishop Amats Baseball program that far down in D5 is like sending Kobe Bryant down to play in the CBA.....Amats Baseball program have always stepped up and played the big boys, and yes it was not their choice to put them there but that AD over there could have spoken up and not let this program take a fall like that. Amat strives for the best when it comes to its athletics and has the reputation of getting the best players through that reputation and now with this demotion, there is not going to be any future Michael Youngs walking our hallways any time soon. To the first blogger Liz..what I keep looking at those Walnut scores in softball and your team is getting rocked!...and dont even get me started with Walnuts boys Baseball team...Lance Parrish must be ashamed to say he went to Walnut High the way the boys are playing the game right now.

Apparently Amat was in a different league in baseball than most of its other sports until last year. Your wrestling team is in the Miramonte league. I have never argued that the Trinity league was an option or that the Serra league was still around. What you keep ignoring is the stature of your program will fall in Division 5.

Make whatever excuses you want for it, Bishop Amat cannot play in Dodger stadium to end their season (D5 championship is at UC Riverside), and other schools that compete with Amat for athletes can now say that the Amat program competes at a lower level than they do.

Am I saying it would have been easy to find another home? No. What I am saying, and what is clear to everyone else, is that the current and future generations of Amat baseball players are not served well by being in Division 5.

You can keep talking about WHY it happened, that still does not mean it SHOULD have happened or HAD to happen.

Hey Rankings,

Pretty good job in my opinion with the exception of three teams, Nogales,diamond bar,and glendora after the amat game should get some consideration. That being said I dont know who you would bump out,all the teams on your list are good teams.Diamond ranch is flying under the radar but they are extremely good. Nice call on that one.

That must be a softball ranking....and I doubt its Arams either way...nice try though kid!

Rankings

1. Amat
2. Diamond Ranch(Miramonte League)
3. Damien
4. Chino(Sierra)
5. South Hills
6. Chino Hills(Sierra)
7. Covina
8. Northview
9. San Dimas
10. Charter Oak

Preppy,

The reason is that they were in the Serra league which blew up to create the OC Trinity league. There is NO room in that league. Did you read that? ...There is NO room in that league! JSerra is now large enough to justify putting them in that league and THEY need someplace to play too.

A school cannot be a nomad and just cruise from league to league and sports to sport. amat is now in the same league for all sports outside of football. Name a school that is in different leagues for different sports (again, outside of the football only leagues that CIF creates)?

The Amat AD did the convenient thing for him in joining that association, not the right thing for Amat's baseball program or tradition. Again, they were not a part of that association before this season in baseball and did not HAVE to be a part of that association in baseball going forward.

frank...not sure if my last post was received, so here goes.......Did ya catch the Santa Margarita girls hoops score from last night?...when whitey wood is on and hot, they're a competely different team....now its on to san diego for the second round of state....where, uh....by the way...is Magnolia? :)
hehehehe.....

hey frank...Santa Margarita advances to the second round of State with their beat down of Laguna Hills.....wheres Magnolia now??? hehehehe....

JP,

I realize that reading comprehension may be a problem, so if paragraphs are difficult we'll try to refer back to my post with bullet points so you can follow along. You can refer back to double check, if you'd like. Oh, BTW- Serra, 1

-"...In *other* sports, for years, amat was been in the Del Rey League..."

-"Upon the opening of JSerra and the emergence of Orange Lutheran the OC finally had their answer to their own league."

-"...out went amat AND Loyola. No choice involved."
(that "petition" thing...ask South Hills how effective they are...or the Valle Vista League in football. Petitions are like lawsuits - anyone can file one, but that doesn't mean you'll get it.)

-"...Santa Margarita, Mater Dei and Servite were in public school leagues, much like Damien. The reason that this was done was the threat of legal action ..."
(OC schools, SM specifically, threatened to sue. Damien actually did. amat was not involved in that at all)

-"... student/athletes missing class time due to early dismissals for long trips. ..." (again- the OC schools)

-" leagues are placed into divisions based on performance of *leagues* not just individual schools."
(1 school can't "opt out" and compete up-please name ONE school who has done so?!?!)

-"...I'm not sure what was written that sounded like an excuse. If anything I am an amat realist and understand the fall to the "little a". I'd love to see the Big Golden A stand for all that it used to - but much must be done.
(didn't we just say the same thing?)

Was that easier to understand? Did we "get that straight?"

In all honesty - a league of the most local parochial schools would be great in all sports.
amat, Damien, St Paul, St Francis, Bosco Tech

Which of those schools do you think would be fine with that? And which 4 do you think would bitch to the high heavens?

Good old Joe,
Your ignorance shows even greater after that response.
The league Amat played in baseball the past 4 years was.... go ahead and say it and they played in what division? What does the Del Ray league have to do with Amat Baseball over the past 4 years. AND please don't say it has to do with $$!
If parents are willing to travel 30 miles to drop off their kids, than travel to a sporting event should be covered....seen the buses they travel in!
Oh I know, your going to pull out the "missing class excuse for this one". Put in a 6th period athletics!
Also, YES they can petition to another league, they just chose to go back to playing inferior competition because they found out, you can't win a CIF title or a National Championship playing Division 1, just like their last one....Division 4!
Face it, Amat has lost it's "aura" and people like you keep trying to cover up the poor decisions made by people like Manzo.
I know, lets have the public schools in the area, give a entrance exam so they can "pick and choose" who they wish to teach and send the rest to Amat!!
Can you say a form of "recruiting". When was the last time Mater Dei played Division 5 in baseball?

Go ahead Big Joe, since you know all the answers, we are all waiting!

Div. 5 For Amat boys? what?....if the San Antonio is Div.3 with So Hills, WC, Rowland and Walnut..what is that saying for Amat....you want to be the big fish in a little pond....your AD screwed your program right there....what recruit will go play there now...no one wants to play for a Div 5 has been.....nice going Manzo...Nieto you better win this year playing Div. 5 or you will really hear it from us Alumni.

Tnaks wilson 84 very classy. I forgot to mention the catcher d. severin good catcher, good hitter, GO COLTS!

Aram,

Sorry, I should have made it more specific. I'm talking about girls' softball.

W841 WOW!

WILSON? I have only seen them one time,when covina destroyed them in the scrimmage 13-3. The three runs you scored were in the last inning with the bases loaded a guy hit a double off of our like seventh pitcher,the score could have easily been 20-0.Hitting the ball well and kicking butt? Our top two pill and smith struck out the side for the first four innings! And if the top two are solid then the colts are too, we basically played a scoreless tie against damien at their crib a base hit goes under the fence and the umpires are too lazy or old to run out and look and there you go 1-0. Game over. I tip my hats to them thats baseball no crying in baseball,however we have good pitching,excellent coaching, and cody,brad gomez,wilson,valuenzuela (when he becomes elgible),flock,ty pill and ortiz all can hit. Valla vista is very tough this year, but we are going to show up and play hard every game.

Aram, your top 2 selections look solid. After that, I think you started flipping a coin because all the other spots will end up a crapshoot. Be on the lookout for Wilson H.H., a senior-laden team who are hitting the ball well and kicking butt. Glendora, Diamond Bar and Bishop Amat have been disappointing so far, but there's still alot of softball to be played.

It will be a dogfight in the Miramonte League as it appears to have the most balance this year in softball. Los Altos, Charter Oak, Wilson, Bonita and Diamond Ranch will make for some eciting games this Spring.

The San Antonio League has lost its luster and expect to see Walnut and Nogales slide off the charts. Walnut lost everyone of note and they will need to regroup in a hurry if they stand a chance. By the look of last night's game vs. Wilson, it looks like a long season is ahead for the Lady Mustangs. Nogales is in even worse shape and their stud at catcher can't and won't do it alone. The door is open for South Hills, Rowland and West Covina. Rowland can gain the most if the stud pitcher that transferred from Nogales can keep them in games. West Covina might be a year away from making some noise. South Hills can take League if their bats come alive. Their pitching is rather ordinary and may end up a crutch as the season winds down.

Joe Amat for A.D.!!!!

The move will solve NOTHING but hey at least it makes him responsible for something other than running his mouth!

Man the balls on this guy! He knows everything! How to run a football team, how to improve individual players, who to hire and fire on the football staff, how to asssemble a staff, what offense to run, what defense to run, knows all about the girls basketball team,and the foul trouble issues of particular superstar players, is an expert on the boys basketball team, knows the players feelings, their concerns, pinpoints the trouble makers, gives school gossip, drops dimes on players and parents alike, knows the inner secrets of behind the scene administrative goings on, knows about the baseball team, it's players , who should play and where, the strenghts of players, the unofficial farm sytem, the Dukes, the Arsenal, the team CIF standing, the league realignments machinations...what doesn't this guy know about the little "a" and how to make it the big "A" again.
Joe did you even play at Amat? What sport and when? Sounds to me like you're living through Junior?
better yet keep the questions to Joe coming. Maybe we can finally get him to say, "Sorry I don't know" just once. I doubt it though. he'll just revert to old habits of blaming everyone else and feeling good about his anonymous power.

Vote early. Vote often. Joe Amat for Athlectic Director!!!!Joe! Joe! he's our man if he can't do it.....we're not surprised.

Joe Amat,

All that you say is true, but it doesn't answer the question of whether this association makes sense for a baseball team of Amat's tradition. Especially considering that this is a school that likes to trot out the strength of schedule argument when having a bad year in football. (It is absolutelty true that any other SGV team would get crushed by Amat's schedule in football and that even in a down year they would beat all comers). Again, they did not have to join this association in baseball despite it being conveinient. While it may make sense for some (many?) of Amat's teams to be in this association, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense from a baseball standpoint. Again, look at the teams in Division 5, are you telling me that these are the types of schools you want Bishop Amat baseball associated with?

Preppy and JP,

Here is a little history lesson, so read closely. Urban legends, old wives tales and outdated rules run rampant among the general public regarding CIF rules and policies. 1st "Mr Lets Get Something Straight" , no one school can "petition" to get into a higher division. You are placed wherever you league goes. Every releaguing cycle is for 2 years. This one is from 2006-08. The leagues are placed into divisions based on performance of *leagues* not just individual schools. And reread the 1st post to tell me where I said, "play where they belong"?

Much goes into the process and, like almost anything with CIF, if you follow the money you will find the answer. Not so very long ago Santa Margarita, Mater Dei and Servite were in public school leagues, much like Damien. The reason that this was done was the threat of legal action as a result of student/athletes missing class time due to early dismissals for long trips. Damien insiders can vouch that that is also the reason that they are able to remain in the Sierra League, as opposed to entering the Parochial releaguing circle. After the yearly OC parochial domination, as expected, the public schools threatened to not play the private schools (and most still don't in the preseason).

Upon the opening of JSerra and the emergence of Orange Lutheran the OC finally had their answer to their own league. To make it an even 6 they kept St John Bosco, reasoning that the drive from Servite or Mater Dei up the 5/91 to Bellflower wasn't that bad. So out went amat AND Loyola. No choice involved.

In other sports, for years, amat was been in the Del Rey League with St Bernard, Bishop Montgomery, Serra and St Paul. In many sports the same teams would be yearly bottom dwellers. In the Camino Real League the same thing was occuring and there would be certain sports that a school would dominate. So they merged into the Camino Del Rey Association to balance the leagues every couple of years. This is actually becoming a popular trend with the Gold Coast Athletic Conference, South Bay Athletic Association, Western Athletic Conference, and the Tri Valley Athletic Association. Imagine taking the Sierra League, Miramonte and the Valle Vista and moving the bottom teams down from A to B to C and moving the league champions up every couple of years. It really provides a process for more balanced leagues but still maintains a little bit of the traditional rivalries.

Finally, I'm not sure what was written that sounded like an excuse. If anything I am an amat realist and understand the fall to the "little a". I'd love to see the Big Golden A stand for all that it used to - but much must be done.

Another question to ask youself (while looking in the mirror) is, even with all the problems, why does amat still get athletes from 30 miles away and has 1st baseman from Hacienda Hts, a 2nd baseman from Whitter, a shortstop from Rancho Cucamonga and a 3rd baseman from LaVerne. The Left fielder is from Chino Hills etc, etc

Is there something that the schools in those areas should be doing to keep their players?

Yes, Amat does not get to place the Camino/Del Rey association, but they do have a say in joining it. They were part of the Serra league last year, which was Division 1. When this league dsbanded (most of the schools joinied the new Trinity league) Amat di have a say in choosing the new league in which they would participate. None of the schools in this new association, which Amat did have a say in jopining, played in Division 1 last year. To say that it is not our fault the league we are in is not Division 1 when you chose to joing that leage (association) is a bit of a stretch.

Yes, Amat does not get to place the Camino/Del Rey association, but they do have a say in joining it. They were part of the Serra league last year, which was Division 1. When this league dsbanded (most of the schools joinied the new Trinity league) Amat di have a say in choosing the new league in which they would participate. None of the schools in this new association, which Amat did have a say in jopining, played in Division 1 last year. To say that it is not our fault the league we are in is not Division 1 when you chose to joing that leage (association) is a bit of a stretch.

Joe Amat,
Lets get something straight, a school can petition out of a placement by the CIF into a higher division before it becomes set in stone, Amat decided not to. How ironic your comments about playing where they belong, coming from a school who's starting lineup in baseball this year features a 1st baseman from Hacienda Hts, a 2nd baseman from Whitter, a shortstop from Rancho Cucamonga and a 3rd baseman from LaVerne. The Left fielder is from Chino Hills.....get the gist here! The talent comes from all over!!
Last year they fell just short of beating eventual Division 1 champion Lakewood in the 2nd
round so if thats the case, why, when they can compete in Division 1 in baseball, are they dropped?
Amat's football team has been out of the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years so that means, according to you, they should be dropped to Division 10!
It's a sad day here in the Valley when our flagship athletic school is looking for excuses with talent that comes from as far as 30 miles away??
Also remember one thing, they won a national championship in this decade while they were
playing Division 4. Would they have won it beating teams like Mater Dei, Servite, Santa Margarita...etc,(on a regular basis).....?
So with that, Lancer fans, here comes another national title in 2007!!

A little background on the amat re-leaguing/CIF placement process.

In all sports other than football, amat belongs to the 12 school Camino/Del Rey Association
which includes the Camino Real & Del Rey Leagues and the following schools
Bishop Montgomery
Cantwell-Sacred Heart
Cathedral
Don Bosco
La Salle
Mary Star of the Sea
Serra
St. Bernard
St. Joseph/Lakewood
St. Monica
St. Paul

every couple of years they move the top team in the Camino Real up to the Del Rey and the bottom of the Del Rey to the CR. So amat stays in the DR(top league) and in some sports that is more competitive than others. In Boys Basketball it is one of the more competitive leagues in CIF and they get moved up, but Serra, Bishop Montgomery and St Bernards kick amat's butts and do well in playoffs. In other sports, as a whole, those teams do not perform so well - hence the D5 placement. It is CIF's choice - not amat's, as to what division teams are placed.

I do agree that what can be controlled is what you do with your preseason schedule and scheduling tough there to prepare you for later. Unfortunately that is not happening in all sports and you are right - at least Carroll must go. Manzo's just happy to be an AD (by default) and won't make any waves. Carroll tried to bring in the St Paul AD and that may have been worse. People revolted and Manzo got it. That time was actually the beginning of the downfall of the "little a". The climate has continued to get worse from there.

The question to ask yourself might be, why is a "lowly D5 team" ranked above my school and at the top of the valley.

div. 5? that is so pathetic for us lancers, we've gotta get Manzo out of here and Carroll. they don't belong at Amat. somethings gotta be done!

BASEBALL
1. Bishop Amat = D5
2. Damien = D2
3. San Dimas = D4
4. South Hills = D3
5. West Covina = D3
6. Northview = D4
7. Covina = D4
8. Charter Oak = D4
9. Nogales = D3
10. Diamond Bar = D2

Yes, Bishop Amat is now in the same playoff grouping as Western Christian for the playoffs.

Can anyone list the division(s) of the top ten rated schools? What's up with Amat? D5? WOW!

Randy,

What a small world! My son's AAU coach is an asistant at Magnolia. They beat Santa Marg last year and they were left "stunned" by the upset. Everyone was crying and the SM parents and players were devastated! They would NOT leave the gym...the security had to usher them out. It was a sad sad scene.

Maybe this was a makeup for last year. Best of luck to all the Medina familia and kept busting up the "regulars" ...it makes my day the way you rattle them.lol

Good luck with your boy.

And thanks for the shout out about Salesian's championship run. (22-2-1) 6-1 in a soccer championship is quite the acomplishment! Go Mustangs!

Frank, Eddie M.'s daughter is a junior on the Santa Marg team that "slid" in to the state playoffs. They lost by 20 to Brea, but their main gun Whitney Wood (the former CSUF and NBA ref Leon's girl) went down early with a leg inj. She limped around for the next 28 minutes and was unable to establish her position in the post.

Those Brea girls were unfreaking believeable...they were 10 deep and never let up. If she is ok by thurs, then it'll all be good! The word is she will be. Thats the same thing CIF must of heard when they decided to axe DRHS. Shit happens and not everyone gets to a ticket to state....whaddya gonna do?????????

Thanks Randy,

Salesian 6 Marshall 1. Tied at halftime 1-1 and then the Mighty Mustangs drop 5 goals in the second half!

Great writeup in the SGV Tribune Sunday!

Like they say "The Pride is Back!"

CIF Soccer Champions 2007! I like the sound of that!

Mustangs in the HOUSE!!!!

Rowland baseball is a joke ive seen little league teams that are better.

Rowland....? They can't even spell "contender" let alone be one! And Amat in Division V, old news, they are there because their "wannabe politician A.D." thought the baseball job was his when Kendrena left and wanted to win some more titles, so he thought Division V was the best place to do it! So now they look bad because of this man's ignorance. Also, I agree, those uniforms at Amat are "sick". Has anyone seen if Krueter over at SC changed their colors? Hey Manzo, nice decision on your coach.....NOT!

Hey MR. C, how 'bout giving it up for Salesian soccer????? Hell yeah...

I missed it, thanks for the tell!.....Odd that our local Amat Board of Directors failed to mention that dropping, while I was blasting them on how they are surely soon to get the boot from Div 1 in football. Domino effect fellas, drop in one sport here, drop in another sport there...oh whats that? your foosball team aint hacking it up with the big dogs---well CIF will fix that!.... BOOYAH....your in Div 6 with LA and CO......

I just can see them spitting out there morning coffee as they read this......I luv it

Prep League

Sure did! I am wondering why?

Enrollment? Not Winning in post season?

Cant believe D5 and the new schedule is very competitive!

They should win league with no problem.

Did anyone else notice that Bishop Amat went from Division I to Division V in baseball with the league realignments this season?

Look for rowland's baseball team to be a contender this year

Glendora Baseball

Here is a REALITY CHECK for you

Henderson field is a frenkin Pony field

280 maybe down the lines
320 matbe to center

Pop up in most parks!

Damien 408 Center- come play on the big field with the big boys!

If you are talking about spencer vannerson thats great,congrats he is a nice young man and his parents too,however gtown doesnt get to play colony every game. They get chino and chino hills,diamond bar,and lets not forget powerful Damien. Last two years they have won about seven or eight games in the sierra so lets not get ahead of ourselves. Even tho it was cold even o popop gets out of that field. It is a pony field, not for high school kids.

2 out, bottom of the 7th....Tie ball agme at five....the weather so cold you had trouble breathing.....spencer at the plater, the big 1-3 and.....the picth......Pop!straight away centerfield shot, game winning walk off home run....deal with it...Glendora wins the first game of the season, 7-5...expect more to come very soon.

I'm very surprised to see Los Altos that high in the softball rankings. Last year that had one of the best seasons around, but lost many starters who were seniors. I know this year they're gonna have a couple young studs pitching, hopefully their bats will take them deep in the playoffs. Good to see a young LA team at #2. Good Luck LA!

Somebody is speaking with her heart and not her mind.

You ranked Walnut's softball team at No.9?! Aram, whats the matter with you. H-E-L-L-O, you know they're going to rock this year like last year. Tsk tsk