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It has been awhile guys....Thought it was time I got my happy ass back on here...

Hey everone,

We recently signed up for the forum and ee only desire to tell you how we would love to be part in this clique. All joking aside. I adore the gratuity of your comradeship ;)

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I am from Spain but as we speak I am staying to the exotic country that you could read in the title :). Im very introverted but I still like adventure. I also am crazy about video games.

I'm 19 years of age. I am so excited to be part in this association.

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Now that graduation at Damien has passed, how long before they announce the end of the Vasquez regime-joke

I totally agree here. There should be no bashing of players. This is absurd. Just let the boys have fun and play.

I totally agree here. There should not be bashing of players. This is absurd. Just let the boys have fun.

NV does not claim NV fan. We dont even think he is from NV and is just trying to make them look bad. i hope people do not get a wrong rep of the school cause of some idiot tryin to make us look bad. hey calvin, this isnt our first winning season alrite. Last year we were just like you guys, 20 game winners and a first round exit, however, this year is different so dont rain on our parade only cause you guys already had to turn in your jerseys.

Dear NVfan.
serisouly you are a loser. Do you realize what you are doing? Bagging on HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS. WoW! you talk about people who have hate in their heart and hate their daily routine..... but the fact is i sure as hell would hate to be you, a loser who spends the majority of his day either justifying your teams record or making ignorant comments about other programs. Some of us have a life. I think your justy a little excited because for once Northview has a winning season. By the way SH had to leave the Valley Vista league becuase they were winning too much in every sport! Not to take away from Northview, they are very talented and young. And yes, they are a good team. I know some guys on the team and i respect them. But the fact is you really need to calm down. Its high school baseball. Get over it. Everyone is just laughing at you at how uneducated and arrogant you are. Everyone will remember you as, "oh yea that guy who was a total loser and idiot who bagged on high school players on a BLOG". You are a nobody, a guy who even his own team disclaims you. So please show some respect and maybe you will get a little in return.

Okay... lets see. I haven't read this since the baseball season started.But just out of the blue I decided to check this out again.. I just want to know who the NV Fan is and how come he/she isn't man enough to put your real name on here?? Are you afraid people want to know who you are? It takes a big person to bag on HIGH SCHOOL players. Its one thing to talk crap about me but our whole team as well. I really don't care what you think about me. I just dont want someone to pretty much say im a "zero" in the outfield with out owning up to it. Obviously you haven't been to any of the games I played, which is all of them. Check your facts.
Its harder to play in the field with a name and number on my back than hide behind my mommys skirt and call myself a NV Fan. NV won't even claim you. Get a life. Maybe you should start with a job.

SINCERLY,
Brandon Barraco

All right. Two more wins for CO and Northview and we go to Dodger Stadium.

NHS 4-3

bonita and northview?

san dimas 9
lompoc 8

somebody give me the score!San dimas and lompoc.

Charter oak 16! Norta Vista 2 Matt ayers two run homer,good job ayers.

Anyone heard anything regarding the CO game today?

Physician Ass........

You are missing the BIG Picture. It is not about the W's in the lower divisions, it is all about development!!!
Coach Pucci & Coach Hernandez are two of the finest men I have had the pleasure to meet. Their dedication to their famililies, faith and programs are second to none!!
Coach Pucci's 05 JV team now the 07/08 varsity team along with an 09 athlete under the guidance of Coach Dunn & Staff, just completed the best season in Damien Spartan history!!!
Coach Pucci & Coach Hernandez first year as freshman coaches are this years 08 team. That 08 team along with the great athletes from 07-09 teams, under the guidance of Coach Morrison & Staff, this team had 5 WINS & 0 LOSSES in league this year. Which gave the Spartans the 2006 Sierra League Championship.
Now that is THE BIG PICTURE!!!!!!!!!

Coach Pucci & Coach Hernandez keep up the hard work, it is paying off

Good luck to both CO and Northview today. I will be cheering on the guys I know at Northview later today. It would be great if both CO and NV play at Dodger Stadium.

Amen to the previous 2 posts. Both are right on the money!

Mustang Sally, you are pretty much on the money when it comes to SH. Kids used to come to SH for baseball not any more, part of it is beacause all the other schools have an offseason baseball program. SH's coaching is married to the football program so they believe that winning league is a great achievement and then they move to football. At the start of every baseball season the coach has no clue who is on his lower levels or who will play the positions that are available by this all the other schools already know their roster. All the schools that win CIF baseball play baseball in the offseason, they have baseball players instead of football players.

Having a teaching credential is overrated. Most of the teachers at schools like Webb, Poly, and Flintridge don't have teachers with credentials and have 100% admit rates to 4 year colleges, and send many kids to Ivy league schools year after year. It is not the teaching credential that makes you a good teacher. Study after study shows that the greatest correlation between teacher effectiveness and student outcomes has to do with whether or not the teacher has a degree in the subject they are teaching.

Of course, these schools admissions standards are very high as well. Even so, these schools can have great athletic programs for their level. Many kids who are fringe players at Damien would be stars at a school like Webb and still get into a great college. I am surprised more people don't consider these options.

I would always say if athletics are important and you can play at a large public school or a school like Damien that you should. But hopefully with the new transfer rules, kids who realize early on they are buried on the depth chart of a team at a larger school would consider moving to a smaller one if they are looking for an opportunity to play and contribute to a high school team.

Get out to the Northview/Bonita game...Last local matchup in the playoffs possibly. The game is at Northview. Rodriguez vs. Baudino. I like Northview to win this one.

SOHILLSPARENT,
The Pony league/ Little League mentality does not work in HS baseball...Excuses, Excuses. I get zapped for mentioning that I thought one of your players is not a pitcher and he is not. He has nothing on his fastball and it is very hittable....He may give you a inning or two but he cannot go 7 like the studs out there, and that will continue when he is a senior...Good bat of his I never denied, the kid can hit, but pitch as a starter no way!....also it is evident that you SH team kicks A-- in the San Antonio, beating up the likes of Walnut and Rowland but when it comes to the single elimination your teams have been coming up empty lately...This will continue to happen with all the focus on your Football team and the fact that recruiting goes a long way and the kids read the paper like their parents and want to start playing baseball at the other baseball High schools..Northview has made a name for themselfs so has Nogales and then there is Bishop Amat altho in D5 they are moving back in the right direction...maybe the the upper brass at SH is in awe with its football program and have put baseball on the back burner. De La Fuente was really all you had going in but the supporting cast was not there. Nogales is riding the arm of Melchor and that to soon will come to a end the differance is Nogales at least got out of the first round with their ace and SH did not...you were ahead game was yours..

Aram, I think the world of the Damien. The truth is they have done well by me. Damien is unique because the STUDS on campus are the BRAINIACS.

How many schools can say that?
Their top swimmers and water polo players are going to Yale, MIT, Cal, UCLA and USC.
Their top soccer player is going to Cal. Their Debate seniors are going to Brown, USC, Cal, UCSB, UCSC and Cal.

That pretty impressive. Nevertheless to say the basketball and football programs are where they should be is a little insincere. Compare South Hills to Damien in Football and Basketball. Right. Compare Chino Hills to Damien in Football and Basketball. Right. That's not even comparing apples to apples, like Mater Dei to Damien or Loyola to Damien in Football or Basketball. So maybe the time has come to be honest. Do your homework Aram and go watch a Freshmen and JV practice and Game in either Football or basketball and come away impressed. Hardy. Last year's JV basketball team lost 20 games for the 3rd straight year...is that building a program? Thank God for Griffin!!!!!!!!! The football team is .500 over 4 years....thank God for Mendrun!!!!!!

Still I love Damien because if sports is what I wanted to be the focus of my kids lives I would have sent them elsewhere.

As far as Carroll. Who cares I'm there for the Ballingalls, Yeazels, Gates, Glodstiens,Yaros, Castillos of the world. Got academics?

OK, this is the time of the year where boys become men and some kids live up to the challenge, while others cower. So, we have a 9-0 Rodriguez vs. 8-1 Baudino per the playoff preview on this site....who is everybody thinking is going to win? I don't know much about either the Miramonte or Valley Vista. Sounds like a good game to see though!

The fact that 85% of Damien's kids go on to a 4-year college is probably because their parents can afford to send them to one. They obviously could afford to send them to a private high school. And I agree, if I was paying for my kid's high school, I would definitely be very involved in their education. Aram's post wasn't referring to academics - he was talking about athletics. Yes, smart kids make good athletes, but I've seen a heck of a lot of morons who are great athletes too. When I went to school way back when, the kids I knew that got into the most trouble were from Bishop Amat. Boy, were they wild. I guess they slept through that religion class! And I'm not saying that all the kids are like this, but that they are pretty much no different than kids that go to public schools. But there are those that somehow feel they are above the public school students/athletes. Not so.

Well said splitter! Now let's all withold our tuition until they fire Carroll!

How do you like me now Fr. Traver$ ???

The facts on Damien -academics....the kids come from homes where their folks are heavily involved in their educations. After all they are paying tuition for it. These kids could be just as successful at a public school and still get into a college...and yes folks, unless your kid is a bluechip athelte you wil still have to pay USC or Stanford $200,000. The advanced placement student is usually assigned to some top-notch, first rate teachers. Its your middle of the road student, who usually has the rookies and non-credentials that are really being ripped off. They would probably get better served at a public school, but they decide to stay and pay. Ask around what happens in those classrooms. Kids will say that a lot of the time they are totally undisciplined and all hell is breaking loose, but no one gets kicked out because every dime counts. And Aram's post makes the best case for getting rid of Carrol in athletics. Ultimately the AD is responsible for every head coach and ecery program. At Damien its different. Sports like soccer, golf, water polo, swimming are all successful because Carroll stays away. He meddles with baseball, football and basketball to no end. I for one think Damien is capable of more than just the occasional league title, but the AD's decisons often hand-cuff these programs more than help. Football has not been dominant since the 70's. Damien only recently defeatd Chino Hills for the first time!! Basketball this year was an anomoly. Let's see what kind of staying power that program has. And in baseball. Just make one complaint phone call to the AD, and watch how quickly the coaches are put on the hot seat. He does not support his coaches. Good, bad or ugly, give your coaches an environment to win in! Not one with you looking over their shoulder.
Damien is great at living off its past glories. Give me some CIF titles and then I'll take a second look. Until then, the OC Catholic schools make it look like a joke. A joke that parents keep paying to hear.

It is true that the teachers don't make big bucks but, what high school teacher does. However Damien statistics show that 85% of their students go on to a four year collage. Not many other schools can say that. Their SAT scores prove that the teaching is not all bad. And that smart kids are decent athletes. Read Arams last post. I'll take that any day over the drop out rate in this home schooled state. And they are good kids and not too bad on the field either.

SOUTHHILLSPARENT, the rest of the pitchers made signigicant contribution playing who? you may want to revisit the teams you played, weak. I would agree on one thing, your coach left a pitcher that was hurt and had not thrown in a while. I believe he did not throw against Los Altos. Everyone on that field knew he was done and yes he brought in Tyler whith based loaded, a coach should always try to bring in a pitcher whith an open base. Playoff games are always close, your coach can't handle this games. The reality is that your team was not going to go deep, specially if your ace was not 100%.The previous week you lost against LA who finished second on their division the rest of your pitchers got beat up.
YOu guys need to get use to the fact that NV has passed SH as the next baseball powerhouse. SH has became a football school, so is your coach.

It would be nice to read what Mustang Sally said. Can't find a post on here recently from her.

Here's your sub-par Damien athletics:

Football - League champs
Basketball - Second place and No. 1 in the area this season.
Soccer - CIF chamionships aren't good enough?
Swimming - Always among the best.
Baseball - Typically a playoff team.
Water polo - Always very strong.

I'd say that Damien is more than holding its own.

Mustang Sally, as with your previous comments, you don't know what you are talking about. In 14 of South Hills 25 games, they allowed 3 runs or less. Of those games, Dmitri featured prominently in only 5. Take nothing away from Dmitri as he is without a doubt a strong Division One prospect and likely will be pitching in college and possibly beyond. However, South Hills had four other pitchers that made significant contributions, including Tyler. Yes, the umpire did pinch the plate, but that was not the only reason that Loyola won their 15th of their last 16 games. One of the several factors was the coach's decisions. Instead of pulling a pitcher that the coach knew had tendonitis, and had thrown a lot of pitches, and had not gone past five innings for well over a month, the coach stuck with him even though of the four walks in the inning produced practically no strikes, and several balls that but for some impressive blocks would have been wild pitches. Finally when Dmitri was pulled instead of having one of the three other pitchers on the bench ready with ample warm up, he had Tyler come in from first base without sufficient warm-up. But for the umpire calling an ever so close 3-2 pitch to the first batter a ball, Tyler would have, as he did so often, been a hero. Tyler Buffington can pitch and play for my team any time, and will no doubt be featured both offensively and defensively for South Hills next year.

I have always wondered how teachers without credentials can teach at private schools, but not at public schools. Doesn't seem like you are getting what you pay for. Unless the classes are smaller and the kids get more one-on-one help, it doesn't make much sense. Personally, I think some parents do it for the "status" thing - "My son goes to a private school." Or possibly for the religion classes, but I doubt that one. As for the athletics, a lot of kids don't make the team, or don't play at their private school, where they would be at a smaller school. Just my opinion.

the academics are so great at damien that many of the teachers at damien are uncredentialed. Its a scam and a farce folks. The kids that attend damien are top notch to begin with. Its a scam. The only classes worth their weight are the upper level ap classes. Many of the regular ed teachers their are uncredentialed, young, and inexperienced. Later they move onto public school and better pay

I have to agree with Damien parent. The sports situation at Damien is laughable. My son would be better off athletically at many other schools.

Academics folks!

I am paying $20,000.00 now so that I don't have to pay USC or Stanford $200,000.00

We pay for the education. The college acceptance letters prove that.

that damien school sounds like a mess! And u parents pay for this?

Just the Facts,
Just wait and see about NV, it happens every year, people make a case for everyone but NV to win the league and there they are sitting above the perch. The kid Elias had San Dimas beat for 6 innings at their place and he got the win at Covina against Pill. Props to Ponzo and Pill, but Elias and co. are better than the ineligible lefty from Covina. There has to be a standard, don't screw your team with ineligibilty. No excuse.

Carroll has done a great job. He's done some great coaching hiring. Look at the outstanding job he did finding Coach Pucci. He's a Varsity basketball coach and a Freshmen football coach. Word has it he's being groomed to be the next AD. Coach Pucci's ability to move up the ranks at Damien inspite of being the worst coach there is mind numbing. Hey if you look the part you MUST be good right.

You want to know everything about Damien just look at Coach Pucci's tenure. It's a wonder Morrison hasn't picked him up to Varsity as well! What a find! Next comes Fresmen HC Coach Hernandez. Quits on his team after almost getting into blows with the former HC and gets promoted to HC the next season. Wins 3 games out of 20 (Gold and Green)in spite of having arguably the most talented Fresmen class in 10 years! Now that's coaching!

Is that Tom Carroll's fault? Or the HC's fault? How about the lack of a QB coach? A RB coach? A shooting "GUN" in Basketball? How about the lack of consistency in staffs at the lower levels? It's someone's watch I know that.

doctor who are you talking about 500 pound albatross? Tom Carroll has done more for damien athletics than anybody. He is a great man who cares about the kids and has represented damien for over 30 years in a positive fashion. He just needs to bring in a more qualified hc than what hes got now. Its a very winnable situation at damien, just not with the clowns they have currently at the helm. There have been more cartrides that have helped kids over the years. Lay off him.

I don't think northview will have anyone that can match up to ponzo smith or pill

Toughest decisions NV will have next year is who to hand the ball to. Another poster mentioned all those pitchers names and it's true...you can go to a NV intersquad next year and see some legit pitchers battling it out. Competition brings out the best and it should be fun to see what happens. From what I've been told, the staff will be better next two years than now. That could be frightening.

And you and NVfan must be brothers! Lighten up! I'm sure Northview will have a good team next year - they always do. Richie Pedroza is an awesome player. Sorry, never heard anything about Eddie Pedroza. Just wonder why you Northview "bystanders" are always so defensive.

covina baseball you cant deny, "we will have some strong pitchers next year"

they are cousins butt head

nv pride -- I'm pretty sure his name is Richie Pedroza. You know these guys very well?

Just the facts wishes he knew more about NORTHVIEW . Dont be a hater. Northview has several talented pitchers Junior Mark Andrade,Junior Aaron Elias. let Rodriguez shine after all he's earned it.I can't stand when the adults try to take that away from the kids. other talented pitchers would include Rj Arnold,Arnold Banuelos, Kevin Jones,Ruben Ramirez,Eddie Pedroza .They've all taken the mound and made our team proud. That's why we won league champs. Rodriguez is our ace and he should be applauded. But it takes a whole team to win.. so dont forget the ones who will be back next year to do it again...DON'T BE A HATER.

Writting skill is the ability to deliver your intent or message, if you achieve that then proper English has been achieved. I believe that all of you have gotten my message.
But in one of my few minutes of kindness i will thank you Baseball parent, deep inside you like me.

Aram you have bee quiet lately, I know you are a sensitive guy are you angry?

To Go Away Northview,
Although, Northview Fan is at times not very sensitive, I find it amusing that you ridicule his grammar and spelling and then write, "...junk and wondered why kind of a loser he must be..." I think you meant to say "what" instead of "why", perhaps you are in need of grammar check as well.

DBFan, if that is true about Kent Neil, then it would be the best thing to happen for Diamond Bar baseball in years. RG is nice guy and did a good job, but it is not coincidence that Diamond Bar wa a threat almost every year in D-1 when Neil was the head guy. He has such a great baseball mind, that few can match.

DBfan,...I'm just kidding around, when I think of the "I.E." thats what I think of.....Fontucky, the Lytle Creek shooting range, and that cess pool just south of the 60 fwy right before the ontario airport. I'm just funnin around.....if Redlands is the jewel of the area, more power to them.

Do you have a kid on the DB team or who played before? Do you wanna see Gonzo out? They won big with Neil before, he certainly is a damn good coach. I think Gonzo is too though.

My kid plays football, I'm not in the inner circle of baseball dads....

Well if u read my comment I said the first 6, the 1's that did all the damage.. Marcus you cannot say enough about he was the inspirational leader of the varsity squad no doubt justin d was an off and on player but most of the time good. Don't tell me I need to appologize because I was adressing the first 6 in the lineup (brad david tyler cody victor steve) and about the not bringing jv players up remember that covina beat san dimas with that short list of players so no reason to change that. Covina was solid this year and will be almost unbeatable next year. Good luck to san dimas and northview this year both great teams they deserve wherever they place

Randy I have lived in both Diamond Bar and Redlands and the town of Redlands has very little white trash in. Redlands is a university town(U of Redlands) and most of the wealthy people in the IE live in the south hills of redlands. I liked living in DB however the high percentage of asians in DB has caused white flight out of DB. I heard from 2 reliable sources Gonzales will step down and perhaps Kent Neil will come back as head coach. Neil is a former Redlands terrier baseball player.

I hear that there is a local game coming up with Bonita and Northview. We all know who should win but lets talk about the other local teams that are playing tuesday. San dimas is playing but i dont know which team they will play but i hear CO is playing Norte Vista, correct me if im wrong. I hear thats going to be a good game. I want to hear some predictions.

I hear that there is a local game coming up with Bonita and Northview. We all know who should win but lets talk about the other local teams that are playing tuesday. San dimas is playing but i dont know which team they will play but i hear CO is playing Norte Vista, correct me if im wrong. I hear thats going to be a good game. I want to hear some predictions.

why doesnt everybody lay off aram, hes doing the best he can, we should all appriciate the the time and effort towards high school sports, is he allways right, no but he does the best he can. aram thanks for all the hard work, keep it up

Hey C-Town Player

When you say all we are losing is b-rad,(a big loss),that is very insulting to the three other starting seniors leaving the colt program,Marcus Hansen,Justin Delengis and Brandon Floch.YOU WERE A PLAYER AND DIDNT NOTICE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THESE PLAYERS MADE!? All three made huge plays in big games through the whole season and most importantly remained eligible the whole season,unlike the other players who chose to slack off and hurt the team. And by the way nine or ten people bat,not just six.You owe your ex-teamates an apology.I am also waiting to see which JV players are going to take these seniors spot.

Aram, no props to West Covina? I heard they lost a heartbreaker to #5 ranked Crespi who had a
record of 21 & 5 for the season. The score was 3 to 2 and it went 2 extra innings. A great game like that at least deserved some kind of mention in the trib.
At least you guy's had a write up on the Bulldogs CIF wild Card win over Mayfair last week.

Just so you know, yes he was a good closer... would he be a good starter?? Hard to say.. And anytime you talk about "guys who didn't throw this tear but will next year" means less experiance and there arms won't be as strong as thoose who didn't take that year. Covina has both there starters coming back both with experiance and sd has probly the mvp of the league ponzo coming back.. Nv will have to rely on hopes and dreams pitching wise that someone will step up and take the role of ace.. Covina has 2 aces in anyones book and sd has a very young and tallented ace.. Nv will fall off

Where are all those hit and run at?

Anonymous why would you smack on a school kid like that. Some of you guys bash me but i never insult the kids, its a lot better to deal with the parents. People like you and the previous post "go away NV" who come to this blog thinking that you are better when you are just a loser like me. At least i have the guts to admit it. Think on this guys, its a great beautiful Sunday and who are you talking to. Yeah that's right, me.
Real successful individuals

Go away Northview, welcome to the bashing. Hopefully you have the guts to answer later. So here is how it goes Mr. Literate, next time you you post a message identify your school, you sound like the little geek who talks trash then hides behind your wife's skirt. Since your are such a great writer, I hope you make a lot of money and don't have to go to work tomorrow. I doubt your great grammar skills have given your any great success in life. Tomorrow you will go to your unhappy daily routine and miserable job. Honestly you sound like a guy whose wife or girlfriend slaps you around and this is your only place to be tough. Please tell me from what losing school are you from. Have you been able to sleep from your previous loss? Is that why you have so much anger at life?

Covina will not win league next year. NV has way too many kids returning. Yeah the ace will be gone, but dont forget about kids who didnt throw this year that will throw next year. Nv's closer has given up one run all year and he will most likely start next year. They have a good lefty coming up. next year's team may be very well better than this year's. but anyways we shouldnt be talking about next year becuase unlike some teams who had to turn in uniforms already NV and SD and Bonita and Amat are still playing

I've watched for the last few months and seen this ignorant person with a sign on of "NVFan," talk all kinds of junk and wondered why kind of a loser he must be that he spends so much time bashing others instead of just cheering for his own team. The only thing that is more glaring than his lack of class is his spelling, grammar and sentence structure. Ignorant and illiterate. What a dangerous combo. Good thing for Northview, however, is they have coaches like Murphy, Rice, Ochoa and others who give the school many look down on, a reason to respect its programs. Unfortunately, this bottom feeder makes most of us want to see Northview lose, but you have to remember to not hold this janitor at the local adult peep show against the kids who just go out and play with dignity.

C-Town player,
I am surprised you weren't ineligible too with all of those spelling errors.

So all you people bashing covina here's how it goes: covina coaches are average high school coaches not the best but not horrible... as far as covina next year watch out for covina.. Out of the first 6 in the lineup all we are dropping is senior brad gomez(even tho he is a big loss) northview is loosing there ace they will not have much left other than bats.. Covina not only has there ace coming back, but also his pitching partner for the last 6 years lefty justin smith (who, to my dissapointment, was enelijable at the end) covina will also be gaining there true closer back next year in matt sanchez.. Covina will win league next year. Only team that can stand in there way is san dimas with ponzo who is an awsome pitcher.. Ctown player out

workman baseball advanced!....i know nobody cares bout them...but they are apart of the sgv. and they got past the first round. outs!

DBfan,...white trash is w.t.(REV or Redlands)...but you were right!........now, these haters in covina are killing me...can't we all just get along :)

No, we cant. It is, what it is.....

I haven't heard anything about Gonzo stepping down, I wish he'd coach the QB's this fall though!

It's threads like this that forced me to stop posting here. Oh well...

NVfan, don't argue with high school kids that post here...low class. I do agree with you about crazy parents and their twisted loyalties. Some wouldn't care if their team lost as long as their son went '4 for 4' or pitched 5 stong innings. They are quick to blame everyone else if their child doesn't succeed. Thankfully, many are not like that.

SH lefty #5, congrats on going to the next level. Good luck to you and all other valley kids who move on to play college ball.

I watched the CO/Covina baseball game. I was there primarily to see two of my former players..CO pitcher Tyler Garkow and DH Ryan Snow. I was very impressed by Tyler Pill. I had never seen him before but I am sure I will for years to come. CO's soph catcher BAILEY...WHAT A GREAT PLAYER! Good luck to them all. They are all class kids and deserve the support of the entire community.

Aram, great job with the blog. I will be back more often. BTW, I have seen one half of a Damien football practice so I have nothing much to report on that.

Hey Aram I just want to know once i am done with these alley aristocrats from SH, whose going to be next?
Bishop parents? CO? Bonita? I think Bishop will be fun they seem to bleed blue, these aristocrats are the worst, they live a nasty taste on my mouth, much worse then the farmers. They are true scummy haters.
Wife can you bring the damn bleach , the SH cats are stinking the blog.

What kind of name is "Ballsy Kid" does that mean you are a man who has smallsly balls?
Here we go again, I just finished with the Covina parents and now the SH wannabe rich, out of area parents are attacking me. My goodness sake, most of you are WC, BP, and CV and you still can't win. The funny thing is you sound just like all those parents, criticizing the the rest of their parent because they live through their kids. Maybe these parents are just proud of giving their kids the kind of live they couldn't live, but you know better. The problem with parents like you is that I am too honest and it stings that i tell truth. Lefty and i had a nice conversation, i really have no problem with any of these kids even if parents like you spend their time on this blog to find out the latest gossip . Spend time with your wife or husband, make some love and stop being a SH wannabe loser. It was your jealous parents who have come to this blog to bury your coach and star player. I don't understand why, your school makes a tradition of losing in the first round so why aren't you use to it?
Welcome to the jungle

To clarify, lefty, I didn't mean "your" parents, I meant the South Hills parents in general.

South Hills Lefty:
I have to give you credit for having the balls to take the blame as a team and not throwing Smith under the bus as so many want you all to do. I wish your parents had the vision and chemistry you players had/have. I saw parents root ONLY FOR their son, I saw dad's swearing at kids out loud and it was pathetic. You guys prove what all mature adults realize...and that its all about you guys and not them. For some reason, some pathetic parents live through their kids instead of with their kids. I know how tight the air is in the playoffs...especially when you have lost in the first round before...so, when you have your own fans jeering, its got to be discouraging. But, you guys battled and lost, but dealt with it like adults should. Good job man! Ps. That NVFan is a social parasite that nobody respect or wants to claim....I know for a fact that Northview coaches and alumni despise what he says and his lack of class, so just ignore him like every woman on the face of the earth does. Good luck in your future and tell Dimitri to keep his head held high.

The playoffs are hard. It's also a tough time for the teams that lose. It's the end of their seasons and for some, the end of their career, so be considerate and let's pump up the local teams left and wish them well the next round. Good luck to CO, Northview, Amat, and the others.

Go ahead an look me up
You can see that im goin to play at the next level.
Bethany University Bruins

Go ahead an look me up
You can see that im goin to play at the next level.
Bethany University Bruins

I want you all to remember that South Hills was playing Loyola. That's a tough opponent and there's nothing to be ashamed of. They said the same things about Nogales and the first round for the past few years and bingo! They got out of the first round with a team that doesn't even compare to the past few seasons. Beside De La Fuente, South Hills had a lot of inexperience this year, but still had a GREAT SEASON! The Huskies swept their league, after all. Remember, this is baseball and anything can happen in baseball. No shame for the Huskies. Another good season!

Doctor,
Who do you want to get the Damien job? Who is available and who would you want if you could pick from the area? I'm assuming there is coaches in the program that would be interested.

Good thing kids had chemistry too bad parents didn't. Unfortnately as shown chemistry is for scientist and sports for athletes. Good luck, i will ask around about you, hopefully you can play at the next level. Remember just because some are good HS player doesn't mean they are next level prospect.
I am out, Sat night is approaching, bar is waiting, ladies too.

Im glad to hear that you're making most of your conclusions off of 1 game
And sticking up 4 my teammates is a must. Goes to show you how great out chemistry was this year.
No one beats us in that category

Barraco and Salazar are both in the 350-400 range, if not above, and are both great defensively.
Barraco gets amazing jumps on any ball in left
and Salazar is one of the fastest, most athletic outfielders in the area. not to mention they both have exceptional arms
Porro is much more then a DH, and you will see that next year when his surgery is over and his knee brace is off, he's a D-1 prospect as well

Jordan Fox starts in Bishop, hitting in the .500 range, on of the best hitter in the valley. Aaron from NV a much better defender would not drop a popup. The no. 2 pitcher in our team and a better hitter. From what I've heard Tyler hit below .300, decent player but not good enough for a first baseman in HS.
AD is just a DH, can't run or field. Salazar and Barraco against Will from NV who is a prospect and Olivares from Bishop a Div 1 talent. I saw Barraco play the outfield and you had to pray when the ball was hit to him.

Lefty,

I should have added I am not very familiar with the other two guys...

You would know best since you see them daily, I will take your word for it...

AnyMouse...

The other two are also great players that would start over there too.
No doubt

Lefty,

I forgot about AD...

I agree...

AnyMouse...

Salazar, Barraco, Porro
there ya go

Nvfan,

How about Tyler Buffington?

I think he is more than capable...

Agree or disagree?

AnyMouse...

Kid, don't take this personal but you should be reading a book or doing your homework. I don't know you and maybe you are a not a bad player.
But i tell you something, i sometimes get on Covina and their superstar because i know their parents are going to jump all over me, i have fun with them, truly nothing personal. I respect his talent. Your parents on the other hand bury their star on this blog. I watched the game on the outfield and there was so much hate on the air that i got the chills dude. I just tell the truth, as i see it. Tell me a tough team you have played in the season? tell me who is a very good player that could play in NV or Bishop besides the three i mentioned?

Well ya caught me there smart guy.
but im sure it would be easy to find out with very little investigating that the only lefty with the #5 on the teams name is Scott McKeen... happy?
And our coach wasnt a part of this.
you were saying our PLAYERS were putting the blame on them. which is completely untrue
And im sure more than a handfull of us could crack your little starting lineup there buddy

how about the coach to blame him? I do put my name "NVfan" i assume Lefty 5 is your name. Really come to see our game i assure you that from your starting lineup only 3 of your player could start in our team. Position by position you guys have no chance.
So you probably wonder why am i leashing at you guys? your pathetic parents are dreamers, worst then CO. At least they embrace their stars your parents are jealous haters.

NV Fan, how bout puttin your name up here?

No one on our team was blaming Mitri or Tyler for the loss
WHo cares about the parents.
Are they on the field... NO!

OK you play as a team, but a Great Team? I think you are choking again, wake up smell the coffee. So you play well as a team but the minute you lose everyone in your team and parents are blaming the pitcher and coach, go get them lefty.

Anonymous, you dont answer because i am right. At least come to this blog with a name.

SH Lefty #5 -- Just ignore him. That's what everyone else does! He just comes on here to cause trouble. Then when Northview loses, you don't hear anything at all from him!

NV Fan, what the hell is your problem.
so we lost on a few mistakes... big deal.
we are still a great team who plays well TOGETHER.
its not just about individuals.
Who are you to say that we couldnt play on a Northview or a Bishop?
The fact of the matter is that we chose to play at South Hills and we all put together a great season to represent our great school

NV Fan, what the hell is your problem.
so we lost on a few mistakes... big deal.
we are still a great team who plays well TOGETHER.
its not just about individuals.
Who are you to say that we couldnt play on a Northview or a Bishop?
The fact of the matter is that we chose to play at South Hills and we all put together a great season to represent our great school

All these SH fans get back to reality, SH was no choke you ain't good to start with. This was an overrated team that plays in a weak league and very non competitive non league games. Your team, other then 2 maybe 3 players are below avg talent with spoiled parents who think a lot more of their kids.
Thank God you had that freshman fall in your laps and a player like DLF who changes the face of your team and a true leadoff in Marti. After these guys, the rest of the team would not start in a team from NV, forget about Bishop

You must be the first baseman's dad, hey hit the kid a 100 pop ups that was ugly for a so called travel player. If it was my kid i would smack him in the head and tell him to make a simple pony league play

Anybody who wins league (undefeated) and has a 4-0 lead and loses in the first round is a CHOKE. You can spin it any way you like, but kharma ends up kicking people in the ass when they have it coming to them...Smitty.

I wasn't so much saying the coach yelling at the first basebman as the star players dad and a couple others. Did people YELL obscenities at his kid when he walked in runs? NO!

Anonymous,understant the content of the message, take a comprehensive reading class. You are the only idiot who would ask such a stupid question

Who all is possibly going to be out of a job in baseball?
Henley at Glendora?
Vasquez at Damien?
Smith at South Hills?
Loringer at West Covina?

Enough excuses, you may be right, no excuses when it comes to throwing strikes, a coach yelling and a HS first baseman not catching simple pop ups

just for the record:
are we comparing Pill and Delafuente to Kobe?

sgvbaseball
One of the smartest posts Ive ever read on this board.

Ya' gotta love all these excuses coming out of West Covina for South Hills' utter meltdown. Yeah, De La Fuente had a nice season, but even those who run out of gas have the ability to put the ball in the strike zone so their defense has a shot at making plays. No defense to walking runs in. He showed much better composure than "his fans," who let the players know "his" disgust when they didn't make a play or get the big hit. Nothing like your dad........errrrr fans acting like its just his son out there battling.
Yeah, and I can't figure out why Smith doesn't get the call. The hobbled midget screaming at the ump after every questionable call doesn't exactly do ya' many favors. Gotta love it when Smith yells to his catcher to "knock him on his ass," when one of Loyola's batters bumped into Calvin behind the plate. I was so ashamed to be part of the South Hills rooting squad that I was almost glad to see the our parents reaction when it was all over. You could see everybody was getting their spin ready to make it look like anything but a choke job. We should be used to it by now.

sgvbaseball -- nice post. Agree with you 100%.

Its amazing how some people love to point out when a star player fails, Lakers lose and they want to blame Kobe. What about the rest of the guys.
Locally we have some great talent, like DLF, Pil, Rodriguez and a few more from Bishop. Whenever a guy like Pill or Delafuente fail the parents of kids who dream to have a kid with their talents love to jump on a blog like this to point out what they did not do. They forget that without them their teams would probably would not be in CIF or have a chance on winning. These are special kids who can beat a team with more then pitching, but they still need help and they are juniors in High School who play under enormous pressure.

why were people asking who had the inside track at Damien? Did they make a change?

Agree about Dimitri. Ive seen him pitch for years under the eyes of some of the greatest coaches Ive ever known (D. Nichols to name one.) We will hear of his name plenty in the future provided he stays healthy.

Say what you want about Dimitri, but the people who really know what they're talking about know that with his talent, he's got bigger and better things ahead of him. Jealousy can be very ugly.

Hey anonymous, so what you are saying is that the rest of your team are a bunch leftovers, because if dlf does not perform you dont have no chance. What makes NV great is that we have a lot of good solid players, SH has Dlf and the freshman after that talend has a big drop. Without that kid you guys would be a very average team in par with WC Loyola was a much better team.

All I can say about Anonymous' double-post is that he needs to concentrate on school and maybe take a grammer/spelling course. You can hardly even understand what he's trying to say. Do you go to South Hills? Wow, that was horrible.

South Hills Meltdown...

this is more or less of a reflection of how SH is going downhill. After school, fights almost break out. The teachers and counselors are talking about how bad this year's freshmen are in behavior. One of my teachers told me about one freshman who brought pot to school and smoked it IN CLASS!!!! (There was a sub in that class) I couldn't believe it. I notice that the freshmen are less tolerable every year. My friend said it was because of computers.

When they left Sierra Vista, the teachers had a party. When they left Mesa, the teachers were happy.

Thank God I'm graduating this year. I can't even imagine what SH will be like in the future if it continues this way.

Well all I could said is to DLF and Smith is to stop making up,thing when the game don't go S.H
way.DLF have never won a big game this year, so
all I could said is. S.H lost the game because
Smith and his superstar player.Like coach smith said early in the year .We go as (DLF)go his right HOME.

Well all I could said is to DLF and Smith is to stop making up,thing when the game don't go S.H
way.DLF have never won a big game this year, so
all I could said is. S.H lost the game because
Smith and his superstar player.Like coach smith said early in the year .We go as (DLF)go his right HOME.

Typical SH, one game in and one game out. Such a talented team but coaching can't seem to make adjustments unlike Loyola's coach who completely changed his approach after the second inning. You need to realize when your starting pitching is running out of gas, pitch count, control, ball running high. If you wait until bases are loaded its too late. Scoring five runs against a very good pitcher should have been enough, when you allow almost five runs because of walks it comes down to the coach who does not understand pitching and the need to make a change. If you start fighting with the Ump then you are not paying attention to the game and you have lost focus. Kids nor parents lost this game.

The Charter Oak parents and fans have to admit that they did get a pretty nice article for their win against Covina, with 2 large pictures even! But I think I remember someone on here complaining about the content of that article too. That their pitcher didn't get enough praise or something. You won - give it a rest!

If you read the article in the Tribune regarding the South Hills game, Dimitri never once blamed the umpire. He was honest and said his arm wasn't 100% and he got tired. Smith also mentioned that Loyola was a very good hitting team. Loyola's pitcher is supposed to be one of the top pitchers in the area and Smith even said that his kids just couldn't make the adjustments to be able to hit him. I don't know what the parents were saying at the game, but on the board here they are blaming it all on the umpire.

Does anyone know the West Co. vs Crespi results?

Anyone hear who has the inside track on the Damien job??

Randy, Glendora lost to Redlands hs in football not Redlands East Valley. REV is the newest school in Redlands. Things do not look well in brahma land as I heard the frosh/jv teams did not win 10 games combined. They have a few good players returning next year and most of the pitchers were seniors. I heard that Rich Gonzales may step down as head coach. The only thing that may save DB is the new transfer policy where some parents may want to send their sons to DBHS for the academics along with the athletics.

Charter Oak fans and coaches:
Yeah, that's the ticket. Keep blaming Aram and the paper for not making enough of an effort for your baseball coverage. Think of all the coaches there are in the Valley and guess which is the ONLY coach not to talk to him. Even coaches who may not be overly fond of him still speak with him because they realize the kids benefit for the media coverage and in the end, he will give whomever has earned the coverage its due. How ironic someone questions his integrity when a coach pulls off a third grade move and doesn't talk to someone or people he's affiliated with when things don't go the way he wants. The sad thing is the football, softball, swimming, water polo, basketball and other teams all got their coverage and so did the baseball team...but its never enough for you. Its "the world is against me," attitude that makes people not want to root for you....and yet the Tyler Garkow's are such quality kids, its ashame high school type games are being played by its adults and now its kids.

ps. Blaming the umpires for your less just takes it a step lower...good job!

How sweet was it to see the parents melt down before even the boys did? Major props to the South Hills parents, who shall remain anonymous, for vocally swearing and showing zero composure after kids made errors or dropped pop ups. Yeah, like the kids aren't worried enough that they're going to be one and out, as usual, they need to hear their parents...the so called one's they should be able to get encouragement from swear and have worse body language than they had. In terms of Smith, he isn't the most likable guy in the world, but I am guessing not even Billy Martin or Tommy Lasorda could coach their way out of walking runs in. Nice job adults...again.....kids showing more class and composure than their own parents! Happy Summer SH!

Loyola did not hit the ball that much off either pitcher, Umps gave them the game, all they had to do was sit and wait.

So I'm assuming the other pitcher was named Tyler - Buffington? Pitchers live or die by hitting those corners, and if the ump isn't giving it to them they are forced to throw right down the middle - usually resulting in a hit. Or then the pitcher tries so hard he overthrows thinking he can just strike everyone out. Then they're all messed up. He is a junior - just chalk it up as experience.

Surprising to me was, that the local umpires would squeeze the local team, SH so much. Whenever one of our local teams goes out of the area we get killed by the umpires. Today the home plate umpire changed his strike zone against SH as the game went along, neither Dela or Tyler got any close calls. Smith did not help by getting into it with the ump but you would think they would give the home/local team the corners.

Hey Aram

If there is any truth to the CO Pony story, your paper should do a story about it.

The entire community should be warned that a paroled convict is coaching small kids and the board permits it.

I thought that Little League was bad. I am amazed!

Sorry - that last post was by me - to NVfan. I guess it's getting too late for me!

Oh my gosh - you really can respond to one of my posts without being rude. Thanks for the info. I wasn't at the game, but I don't know what Aram looks like anyway. Dimitri is an excellent pitcher. Who did they put in after him? Just shows you what can happen on any given day. I thought South Hills had some pretty good hitters. Or was the Loyola pitcher pretty good also? Sorry for all the questions. I hate waiting until the morning to read the story.

Hey Aram
To be honest, it doesnt sound stupid at all that players will talk even though the coach won't. They're kids and haven't been screwed by the media yet. They're excited and happy to talk any time a reporter would approach them. You should have put your petty grievences aside and talked to the kids.

I went to the SH game today, i was looking for Aram and he was no where to be found, i actually went to the Loyola side to see if he as there.

Anyway Delafuente, lost his control and had like 3 or 4 walks in the fifth, that is when Loyola tied the game. It looked liked he ran out of gas, too bad because he was dominating them until the fifth.

I guess no one wants to talk about it.

Someone told me tonight that DeLaFuente blew a lead in the third but I can not be sure if that happened.

South Hills lost????

I didnt expect that...Yikes...

Anyone have details?

AnyMouse...

I read that South Hills lost. Does anyone know what happened?

The coach won't talk, but the players will. Do you know how stupid that sounds?

Hey, Sports fan!

Didn't you catch Aram's excuse...ooops, i mean explanation about budgeting and staffing. The Tribune couldn't mention Sharf because of the cost of ink. He (Aram) cries about lining the birdcage etc..., but the truth of the matter is he was afraid of coming over to the CO side. His pride wouldn't allow him. What Aram won't tell everybody is that his staffers did talk to CO players in earlier games. It is Aram that keeps putting fuel on the fire.

The article itself was a good article. He should have interview one of the CO boys.

I'm curious about one other thing?... Since stats are never posted in the Tribune, (cost of ink, staffing...) who picks the All-Valley and what do you base your selections on?

SOuth Hills lost today 7-4 to Loyola. Too many first round losses.

Does anyone know how South Hills did today? I asumme they won and I cant wait to get out to Northview on Tuesday. How likely is it for CO to meet Northview at Dodger Stadium?

i would like to congratulate andrew formano and his staff and players for a nice season, it ended way to short but you guys did a super job considering it was your first head coaching job and your very young staff, nice season and very classy team, good luck next year
and good luck to c.o. and bonita the rest of the way

i would like to congratulate andrew formano and his staff and players for a nice season, it ended way to short but you guys did a super job considering it was your first head coaching job and your very young staff, nice season and very classy team, good luck next year
and good luck to c.o. and bonita the rest of the way

I just thought I let everyone know that the Lady Conquerors of Los Altos cruised through their first game today 8-0. Diana-Lynn Patterson threw a no hitter and was 3 for 3 with 3 rbi's. Can you say Valley Player of the Year?

One of the better fields not to mention one of the better places to play Pony Baseball is in the City of Walnut. They brought some good solid teams to compete a few years back during All Star Competition.

Youth Pony is supposed to do the same kind of background checks as well. I've heard a lot of negative things about CO Youth Pony, but Walmerado Youth Pony is a great league - or at least it was last I heard. The leagues are much larger than the Little Leagues because there are not so many of them, and their boundaries are much bigger.

annymous
I'm in total agreement with you on background checking. The fact that a parent actually presented the president of the league with a Omelia's rap sheet with conviction dates is totally irresponsible and action should have been taken immediatly. I'm not sure if any of these kids will end up at Penn St. but I know a coach that went to St. Penn!

Thanks for clearing the youth Pony thing up, didn't know they had youth Pony, is that because it's not part of the Little League org. If so maybe that's why Felons are allowed to work with the kids at CO Pony. I have been on the board at another local league and with everything that happens now days we would check the background on the people that worked with the kids.

anonymous
Charter Oak plays in the Pony Baseball organization and under it's rules with T-ball, Shetland (5 and 6yr olds) Pinto (7 and 8yr olds) Mustang 9 and 10 yr olds, they start leading off and play with dropped third strikes at this level) Bronco (11 and 12 yr olds). Hmmmmmmmm, maybe that's why CO players are better when they reach high school!!!

They are referring to "Youth" Pony Baseball, which is much more competitive than Little League. It is the same ages as Little League - 5-12 year olds, then they continue on to regular Pony, Colt, etc. Charter Oak has a Youth Pony program as well as Walmerado Park in West Covina. Just FYI

Aram, I'm very dissappointed in the coverage of yeaterday's CO/ COVINA game. Just because Quinley won't talk to you doesn't mean you couldn't have talked to some of the players from CO. Chris Gutierez didn't get an interview with Q earlier in the season but still wrote an elequent story with an interview with at least one star from CO. Your story glossed over many important aspects of the game. Even your lead-in sentence "Three arms are better than one" lacked substance when you never even mentioned CO's third "ARM". Brandon Scharf came in in the 7th inn. with 2 on and no outs and pitched masterfully to get his third and biggest save of his young career. It was nice that you got a quote that Covina didn't stick to their hitting plan but maybe it's because CO"s starter Tyler Garkow outpitched their "Ace" by allowing only three hits over 5 innings. But then it would have given CO too much credit for their Victory!!!

Rich you have questions for me..well i have answers. coach Rich is a decent coach in the SGV. Great, but being a good basketball coach in th SGV is like being the best of .500 schools, not exactly lighting up any radars with that statement. Next no one cares about your wrestling program. So what you guys are good at wrestling, oohh wrestling a sport that really stirs up conversation. I could be wrong (but i doubt it) but I dont believe that Murph has been the head coach for the last ten years. Last thing Gano and Podley did'nt thing that school was a stepping stone, huh?

The Legend Speaks.

Since I have been reading this blog for the past few days I might add the reason why Tom Q. won't talk to the paper is because he feels this blog is not doing any good and is just hurting the kids.

last I checked little league was 5 to 12 and Pony was 12 to 16 with Colt after that

ddd, You miss the point altogether. We're not talking 13 and 14yr olds. We're talking Pony baseball at the 5 to 12yr old level with cheaters and criminals in charge!!! Everyone should be warned "Sheets and Omelia are bad news"!!!

Charter Oak Pony is a joke all together. There are so many stories out there that its just to funny. Everyone knows that if you want your kid to get babyed you go to CO but if you want your kid to play ball, you go to Hollenbeck and CO Pony cant stand that fact.

I would like to thank NVfan for pointing out a true embarrasssment called Charter Oak Pony. The president of the league knows that Steve Omelia is a convicted fellon and has done nothing about it. He was convicted of identy theft and embezelment. Is that who you want around your kids? On top of that he has a puppet in Eric Sheets who himself has been run out of Glendora Pony for lying and cheating and now is in control of the 7yr old all-stars!!! Sheets is on the Board so watch out for Omelia to run for treasure. They trust him with Your Kids so why not the Leagues money!!!

Anyone who goes to Covina knew that Pill's dad was out there every day after practice throwing extra batting practice for anyone who felt they needed it. How many of the kids on the team actually took advantage of that? Just an observation.

Covinaparent,

I will refrain from venting on here again, seasons over anyhow...

AnyMouse...

Living Legend-? for you. Northview is stepping stone for coaches to go get other jobs? Hmm, you got Ron Rice who has coached basketball for 30 something years there. Dave Ochoa is the wrestling for 15 plus years. Darrin Murphy is baseball coach for last 10 years or so. All 3 are winning and three of the better coaches in their respective sports in the sgv. Stepping stone?

Mouse,
You have ruffled feathers because I just want my son and the rest of the program to flourish in the future, instead of being beaten down by people who won't back the program but back stab it. I know my son has learned a lot from Root, Merrill and Alcarez. I believe that they know what they are doing, (yes some of the game time decisions are questionable), but they are teaching a lot of the things other teams are teaching and this is according to my son who overheard an opposing coach say the same things (hitting, fielding), and that team killed us.

Covinaparent,

I forgot to address your last comment...

I never tell my son to ignore his coaches, actually its just the opposite...

I keep my mouth shut and let the coaches...

Coach...

AnyMouse...

Covinaparent,

You assume quite a few things...

First that I have never expressed my opinion to any coach face to face...

Far from true and I have learned its usually counterproductive...

Second that I am a coward...

Your entitled to your opinion but I doubt you would feel that way if you knew my identity...

A blog is one way to express an opinion without backlash and I use it accordingly, to do otherwise would be foolish...

I seem to have ruffled your feathers by stating my opinion about the program, my apologies to you...

AnyMouse...

And what I am saying is if you have a problem go to the source instead of being a coward. Yes it does start at the "top" but the top players on the team, and if they don't believe in what the coaches are telling them then it affects the whole team. You are probably a parent who tells their player if it's not the way you did it when you were 12 or the way "I (the parent) taught you, don't listen to the coaches because you were an all-star way back then, and that tears any team apart.

Covinaparent,

My point is it all starts at the top...

Of course the players on the field need to come through, but again it all starts at the top...

Keep in mind, "As you sow so shall you reap"

Seasons over quickly once again...

AnyMouse...

NVfan,
Sure they have a right to voice displeasure, but to blame it all on the coaches is wrong. The players have a huge part in executing the plan that is set forth. Also if you have a "crappy" house built, won't you go talk directly to the people instead of hiding? Correct? All I am saying is that if mouse has a problem go talk to the source if he has a player in the program and offer some help instead of tearing things down.

Northview or the 3rd world country of CVUSD as some like to call them has no busniess talking trash to anyone about coaching. You guys are a stepping stone for coachs...People go there to coach only to get a better job. Believe that.

The Legend Speaks

Covinaparent, AnyMouse has all the right to have his opinion, everyone knows your coaching sucks. So just because he may have time does not mean they want him as a coach. Look at it like this, all of us may not be able to build a house but we know when a crappy work has been done, correct?

AnyMouse,
You have posted may times about the "poor practices" etc... If you have so much time on your hands and can watch these practices why don't you "donate' your time and help out if you know everything.

The Covina has made it to the Playoffs every year for the last 7 years with the players they are dealt (They've had others transfer to other schools just to sit the bench). No other school in the league can say that.

Yes, we parents are getting tired of seeing CHS lose but it also comes down to the players executing the plan set forth and "buying" into what is being coached, not relying on the basic skills they learned in the little league and stop making excuses for everything they do wrong.

From what I hear the lower levels had 0 players to help out. It was unfortunate the players who were eligible were let down by their teammates who were too worried about "My Space" and such and not their school work. Maybe if the coaches could concentrate on coaching and not worrying about if so and so is eligible or will they be at practice, then things might be different. I think we as parents need to monitor our kids outside of school activities (homework etc...) and let the coaches worry about coaching.

I was at the game and it had nothing to do with the coaching by either team. It came down to the kids on the field. The coaches can't hit for the kids and ours didn't hit yesterday.

So Mouse, stop bashing and go help. Let's not be like the other parents who back stab, if you have problem confront it.

Just to set the record straight, "My Way" was written by Paul Anka

Frank Sinatra?How old are you?

Aram,

Never said that you lacked integrity because of your tiff with Coach Q. or that you shouldn't cover sports anyway you wish. My Frankie reference is that you have to admire a coach who tells you upfront why he won't talk to you and keeps to his guns in spite of your vehicle for what is in his mind very destructive to "his" team. You may differ with his opinion but "enthralled" denotes we're being fooled by Coach Tom. I don't think so...I like my coaches cranky and opinionated. Parcells, Belichick come to mind.

Sorry for the hurt feelings. You've got to admit the Frankie tune was a clever ode to Tom, que no?

So I'm assuming Northview won. What was the score? Congrats and good luck next game.

rodriguez did us proud,marco did a great job too. our sprit is what keeps us strong..k.jones did great today as well as elias with his stretches. pedroza's hands woke up after 1st inning. and williams did a fine job behind the plate keep it up guys. can't wait to watch you again...go northview.......ooooohhh yeah.

Having no integrity would be NOT covering today's game between two of the best teams in the area after the coach of one of the teams said he wouldn't line a birdcage with the Tribune and turned down interview requests from THREE different Tribune reporters (one of whom is an INTERN!!!).

I disagree with Coach Quinley's thoughts about the Tribune's coverage, but it's not anything I haven't heard dozens of times. But like I've said before, nobody knows what type of budgets and staffing wer're working with. If they did, especially a coach, wouldn't be so quick to bash what's actually been an overachievement on our part for this entire school year.

I have had nothing but great relationships with the coaches at CO. Lou Farrar (football), Randy Thatcher (boys hoops), Roger Armijo (girls hoops), Scott Higuera (softball) and Howard Hyde (swimming). It's a very sports savvy school.

In fact, I have great relationships with most of the coaches in the Valley. And even the ones who don't like me still give interviews and allow access to their programs. In fact, that's been one of the great parts of this beat. %99.9 of the coaches really help us out.

I'm sorry, but after the third guy came back to the office saying the Charter Oak coach said he wouldn't talk to me, that was the end. I don't play that.

I'm glad Coach Quinley "doing it his way" enthralls some of you. But I wouldn't line my birdcage with it.

northview is a great team.... keep up the good work..

Duke of G-Town -- Very well put!!

It is amazing how childish the Charter Oak crowd and NVFan is. Always trying to start sh** that isn't there. If Aram wanted to duck the Charter Oak crowd, he could have covered any game he wanted. No reporter should have to wonder if a coach will talk to them. That's part of there job and furthermore, a coach should realize its about the kids and not himself, so he should talk to the media regardless. NVFan wants to make it seem like he plays favorites. Yeah, that's why the latest feature in baseball was on Will Davis and they led with Northview in their playoff preview. Get a frickin life and remember what high school sports is about...and its not you.

I know CV'coaching is horrible, one of the worst but you only scored 2 runs, that is not your coach's fault.

Hey Aram did you read COfan's comment?

I am going to see the SH's game tomorrow, are you coming Aram?

aram it's funny but I don't hear or read all those whiner parents that tried to jump on Coach Q's back.

Congrats Coach Q. maybe that late night run showed the players who's in charge and why teams are "lead" to Championships by coaches who reflect the "needs" of the team.

Well done.

Only sad thing is you're really going to get "lonely" on that grass mower....Is that Frank Sinatra on your IPod..."I did it may way...for what is a man ...what has he wrought..if not himself then he has naught...the record shows....I took the blows and....DID IT MY WAYYYYYYY!!!!!"

Coach Q. ...you're the MAN!!!!

Nvfan,

Just to be clear, I agree with many of your postings and can appreciate the way you fish and everyone else bites...

Just stirring the pot, Hahahahaha...You keep it fresh and raise blood pressure across the land...

I get your point, your rude at times but yet I might be also if my team was at the top...Go Northview...Good Luck...

AnyMouse...

Nvfan,

Your point is valid but lets be honest, you know the Covina kids, you know the talent level...

Its the coaching from my perspective, you may even agree with me after reading this...

Not the coaching that took place today, that would just be a lame excuse...

Its the coaching in general, start to finish, year to year, preseason to every early exit...

Just as Murph builds a program as you are aware, Coach Q does the same. Add Chuck and Derek and you have many years of wisdom, theres the difference...

Covina was out coached long before the season started, today just proved it...

Ever see a Covina practice? Its a joke...

How many kids are left on the team after grades?
Maybe ten...YOU NEED NINE ON THE FIELD...Who is kidding who? Who is in charge?

Covina brought up no JV players at all to fill the gap? Why? Guess they cant play well and may be a liability...Always nice to see the Varsity coaches standing outside the fence laughing at these kids instead of encouraging...Brilliant...

Problem is that at least 3 of them are better than half of the varsity players...Dont believe so, then you need a reality check...I guarantee some of the CO coaches laughed when they didnt see these kids out on the field against them today...They knew...

Everyone on here bashes the coaching at GHS and DHS...We as parents have been quiet at Covina so far...

One and out again may just change that...

Dirty laundry?

Nope...Just the facts...

UNDISPUTABLE LIKE IT OR NOT...

AnyMouse...Unleashed

Hey, Aram!

I think I heard a tree fall in the forest today.

Let me set the record straight. Coach Quinley has never disallowed any player to be interviewed by the Tribune. The fact you didn't interview any of the Charter Oak players shows your integrity.

What Charter Oak Pony. They disbanded thier Pony league, leaving only travel ball teams. A lot of people at Charter Oak Pony only want to beat Hollenbeck and it never happens.

Ouch!!!! that hurts. Get a cup of tea and relax there is no need to call me stupid that is not what a good fellow person does. Now i know you very well, sadly more then you think, we are souldmates, so be honest we know you are Anonymous

Deep breath, Inhale, blow out, isn't that better

With every post, you just show your stupidity. The score was 4-2!! You know nothing. And as far as your comments regarding coaching or anything else, please address them to the "Anonymous" person who wrote them. I congratulated Charter Oak and complimented them on their defense and coaching strategies. I don't recall placing the blame on anyone - we lost - that's it.

When a team beats you 4-1 they beat you in every aspect of the game, your hitting, defense and pitching failed. Those coaches in NV are good but my goodness they don't hit nor pitch. Kids still have to execute. If it was a run game then maybe you can blame a coach's disicion. So it looks like i know more about the game then you think, Bimbaraboom!

Congrats to Charter Oak High School. They do the community proud.

On the other hand Charter Oak Pony is an embarrassment. They actually let a convicted criminal who is out on felony parole coach a 7-8 year old team. Many parents complained but the board did nothing about it.

If I had a son playing there I'd find another league next year. My kids played at Covina National and never had a criminal coach them.

Shame on you Charter Oak Pony!

NVfan - Please stop assuming that I am every Anonymous post on this board. I post my opinions under Covinabaseballfan. Should I assume all of the Anonymous posts are from you? We lost, plain and simple. It is obvious to me, however, that you probably never played baseball by your lack of knowledge on the strategies involved in a baseball game. Why do you think teams scout each other? It's not just aboout throwing, hitting, running, catching when you get to his level. And say Covina has won most of our games because of our defense is a really funny one! Sorry, just facts.

Hey Aram, are you going to the SH game tomorrow? If you do can you please let us know where normally stand, i dont want to hear any complaints.

As of the previous post by "Anonymous" aka covinafan, please stop blaming coaches by saying they got outcoached, and defense. The kids play the game, either they hit the ball or can't. You have won most of your games and defense was a factor. The kids pitch the game and they get hit when they miss the spot. The better team won in every categorie, simple.

who is the best -- I believe Loyola's coach also coaches in the Cape Cod League during the summer, if it is still the same guy. His name is Kelly Nicholson. His first year at the Cape his team won the Cape Cod League Championship. Just FYI. Good luck tomorrow.

I think Charter Oak took advantage of Covina's offense too. It's been said on here that these kids and coaches have played together at various times, which would mean they would know what pitches certain kids can hit and what they can't, which players are slow, who can't field a bunt, and the list goes on and on. So many factors in a baseball game. Good coaches will know all of this and utilize it to their advantage. Having been at the game, I would say Covina didn't do their homework and was out-coached. Congrats to Charter Oak.

Big time game tomorrow, South Hills' delafuente will face the the undefeteated ace of Loyola a school that belted 32 homeruns. This is problaby the toughest matchup of the SGV. Scrappy vs. Power. Power pitching against power hitting.

You really make laugh Aram, you are actually bribing me. What are you going to next, ask me for money? Don't hate the messenger man, you do admit that you tend to like CV. Lets just say that my journalistic ethics do not allow me to reveal all my info, i am surprise you would. Remember eyes are always on the Pricipal so next time have a latte on the CO section and give old man Tom a small wink. And i dont believe you know who I am.

... "kick my ass off the field." I like that. That's as good as it gets.

I went to the game and stood in the same spot I stand for every CO game. Plus, today I could look over and see the football team practicing.

About Coach Quinley. He's made the decision not to talk to the Tribune. He's turned down interviews to two of the people I've sent out to cover CO, one of them being an intern (ahh, that was a good talk I had with the lad and dealing with some people).

NVFan, how did you hear all of this? I mean who would know where I stood and who I did and didn't interview. Can you answer that without giving yourself away, or do you want me to do it?

Frankly, I am sick and tired of all of the whining and coach bashing all of you Damien parents are writing about. Stop crying and whining like little kids. Perhaps your coaching staff has some integrity and the mighty dollar isn't enough to get your sons the playing time, you think they deserve. If you are not happy maybe you can buy them a spot on another team.

I am baaaaack! Time to bash CV. Naaah, why keep kicking a dog that never got up. But i do have teach CVfan to stop blaming your defense by saying they took advantage of your weakness. Lose as a team, defense, pitching, hitting.

Aram i heard you went to the CV/CO game and sat on the Covina side the whole time, on top you didn't interview CO. So i taught is Aram rooting for CV? But then i realized you were afraid Tom may kick your ass off the field. Am i right?

that sucks.....REV got Glendora in FB, and us in baseball......the Brahmas went something like 5-5 in thier last 10 games including that playoff game, I did not think Chino Hills and DB would get whacked by a buncha toothless, mohawk wearing, johnny rebs.....that sucks.....

The Doc is back and don't worry Aram I've taken my meds....hey here is the ultimate issue...as long as the three clowns stay at Damiem we Damien fans don't have to worry to much about those long commutes to playoff games in any sport! With gas proces the way they are I need to ask Coach Carroll what kind of mileage he gets on that cart. Probably a lot better than what he gets with his mouth..."blah....blah...blah"

REV 3,Diamond Bar 1

Congratulations to Charter Oak on a great game. You have a very good team with a flawless defense and great coaching. You knew our team's weaknesses and took advantage of them. Good luck the rest of the way!!

Covina...

One and out as usual...

With all that talent...Go figure?

Congrats Charter Oak...

I respect your position aram on the damien topic but it's just that a lot of us parents are real passionate about how terrible the vasquez/pro/carroll trio has been. We want to get back to some real baseball and not getting dogpiled on our mound.........for 3rd place(lol)

Covina vs. Charter Oak

What a local matchup and a whole lot riding on this one in the city of Covina. The Hollenbeck lifers will leave their retirement homes (H. Park) and head a mile east to see who gets the upperhand and gets to talk smack all summer over ChiliBelies. Both teams know each other well. You got Pill-one of the more respected players in the area going against a group of kids that know him well. Nyeholt comes back to give the Chargers a lift. Flock goes back to Charter Oak to face the kids he egged. Merrill and Root vs. The Big Three Quinley, Tiffany, and Nichols...The pieces are set, the teams are ready to go..."Are you readddddyyyy to Ruuummmbbbbllleeee" Can't wait to see which heavyweight comes out of this one standing.

I had to delete an entire thread below because this Damien debate got way too out of control. I have no problem with people voicing their displeasure, but too many posts were out of line. Make your point, leave kids out of it and don't get personal about the coaches/faculty. Believe me, the english language is powerful enough for you to do that tactfully.

I assume that Pill will take the mound for Covina but has anyone heard or have a guess who will start for CO? I would assume Garkow.

Good luck to both teams today. I know many players participating today (on both sides)and I hope they all do well. I cant wait to get out to Charter Oak later today.

This will be a great game and I hope Covina wins. If not all those Charter Oak parents(and i know many of them)will have thier heads grow bigger and bigger.

This will be a great game and I hope Covina wins. If not all those Charter Oak parents(and i know many of them)will have thier heads grow bigger and bigger.

Aram

Way to delete kid bashing post.

Thank you.

everyone is leaving out the hottest team in the valley, that would be los altos. in there final games they have beat wilson twice, split with bonita,beat c.o. twice and beat s.h. twice, c.o. bonita and s.h. are 3 of the finest teams around not just in the valley but un there respectvie divisions.and l.a. drew the toughest opponent in torrance , soon we will see just how good they are.

Easy (Sad for Damien)

If you were not so upset. You would have read my post clearly. I said nothing about the coaching staff. As I stated I don't know much about the baseball program. I just stated the facts of what I wittnessed. And did not point out a players name.And dragging a kids name into this is crap. The kids are just out there enjoying the game they love. (I Hope)
As for our AD. I was just stating A fact that the Damien Family has stated for years.

JollyRoger, you are true Kiss Ass, where is your level of competition. I suppose you are also rooting for Covina to beat CO.

I don't know a lot about the Damien baseball program but, one thing I do know is that without pitching you cannot win ball games. Damien's pitching just plain sucks. It's hard to blame Coaching without pitching at this level. I agree that the AD Tom Carroll has to just retire. He is just a pain in the rear to most of the kids at the school. They need a younger motivated person to step in and revamp the sports program. One thing we know at Damien is that you have to coach for the love of the game because it is not the money. Good luck to all of the area team's going for the CIF Championships.

PS To all Glendora Athletes come on over we can use your help.

These baseball "dads" (I might have to assume), really need to get a grip and a life

Good luck to both teams. It "should be" a great game.

God, please win today Covina. The last thing we need are those Jerry Springer castoffs from Charter Oak, aka parents, getting all amped up and coming on here to spout how everybody hates them. Act civilized and like adults and maybe people would look down on your southsiders.

Could this be the JollyRoger from Titan Central? Good point you made there - they were also roommates at Fullerton.

Hey NVFan, you need to take a lesson from Sergio Pedroza and Brett Pill, who showed that a Viking and Colt can co-exist and the result was a CWS championship. Oh, and I'm a Northview alum

From all of the extremely negative comments about Henley at Glendora, I can really sense your frustration. You are letting it all out on this board. Not all of us on here are from Glendora, or know anything about their baseball program. It is unfortunate that every topic that Aram starts on this blog somehow turns into a "bash Henley" session. I can understand some comments, but this is getting ridiculous. The same things are being said over and over again. We get the point.

Hey just the facts

I am glad he ditched practice to watch his kid play.I hope it was the game a player he cut strike out his kid,(correct me if I am wrong),THREE times.How ironic is that?

Lets make it simple:
Henley (14-33-1) in the last three years in league with several quality players.

Each year, parents are so disgusted with him that they circulate a petition to get rid of him.

He runs a military camp...be there on time and never miss or you pay the price, but he misses practice to watch his son play.

Ask the kids what they think of him missing practice when none of them could to watch their brother or sister play.

No coach worth his weight in salt would ever justify being a task master and then go watch your son play baseball while your team is practicing in the 90 degree heat. Its the ultimate sign of his arrogance and thinking the kids need to live to a different standard than himself.

Someone once said, the effect a coach has on his/her players can be seen in how many come back to see you or give back to the program. It is deafening in Tartan Land, because other than a select few, this man is despised.

He bad mouths his own coaches in public and doesn't feel he has any accountability to anyone for his actions.

Sad thing is, if this guy won, he could get away with his Bobby Knight/Bill Parcells/Tom Coughlin mentality. But the time has come that your record matches the level in which you treat people and the incredible arrogance will come to an end soon.

Move forward Glendora or become the doormat of the Sierra League and watch all your players transfer to Damien, San Dimas, Bonita or Bishop Amat.

I am the mother of a young Glendora High School player and I've heard rumors of this blog and had to see it for myself. I can, unfortunately, verify that coach Henley is pushing many of us to think seriously about a transfer unless a change is made. I have seen and heard the affect his negative tirades have had on our kids and I don't want my son to be part of it. I think my biggest problem with the situation at school is that this man thinks its everybody else and not him who doesn't get it. Of course kids at any school need discipline and Glendora kids are spoiled, but continual negative interaction doesn't work anywhere. In the end, its wins and losses that affect most coaches tenures, but Henley not only loses, but he ruins baseball for the youth of Glendora because its not fun anymore. Please, Mr. Leduc, do what's best for us and sever ties with this man. He is young and can rebound somewhere else with a clean slate, but the damage is more than done here. We want to remain a community, but he threatens us as parents to have to make a change if you won't.

Tyler garkow is just the tip of the iceberg.The other kid flock at covina starts at first,many great players have been frozen out or just left the program,newman,hendershott,jordan deal are a few names that come to mind.Even his players get screwed,a great kid like chakerian has to pitch when he is dead and left in to flounder when ten runs are being scored? What the heck is that?How long are we going to tolerate this kind of nonsense?And could somebody please answer me is Phillip cecil hurt or got beat out by the other guy?The guy playing now hits good but defensively?The catcher position has hurt them many times this year.Henley your attitude says my way or the highway,well its time for you to hit the highway.

that sounds like a fair response re henley. Ive heard so much negative. I bet Leduc and pasqy secretly love that the guy is buried right now. The Damien situation is a joke and has been for year. Oh, the wonderful world of HS athletics!

That's a good question, but I think you should take the affect that Henley or Vasquez has on their players...because in the end....its about the kids....Vasquez might not be winning, but ask his kids...they don't hate him...he isn't an in your face, drag you down type like Henley. I guess because its a threesome (Vasquez, Pro and Carroll) is makes it sound worse, but one man at Glendora has brought down the program because he not only can't win, but the players hate it and quality kids won't come out and play because he is so disliked. My answer would be that Henley shares a universal disdain from players, even his own coaches hate him (at least one does, I know for a fact) and the kids are afraid to play for him because of his napolean-like mentality. Ask anyone, he is the MOST hated man in Glendora.

Here is a great question. Who is more hated on these message boards by the parents, fans, etc. Coach Henley from Glendora or the bumbling trio of Vasquez/Pro/Carroll from Damien? My vote goes to the trop from the pope school. What's your guys' vote?

Tyler Garkow was cut by Glendora and yet is a key player in Charter Oak's run to a league title and a playoff spot? OK.....ONE more reason why Henley should go. He has the respect of no one..unfortunately has built the hatred of many, can't win (14-33-1) in Sierra League last three years and doesn't make adjustemts. Oh how we haven't forgotten that 10 run choke job to Damien, the blown seventh inning game against Chino and the ass kickings throughout the year...stamped with an exclamation mark 17-3 kick in the face to end the season from Diamond Bar. Maybe this guy will realize he isn't above a program and does what's best for everyone, especially Glendora High. Move on Henley....no one wants you.

The previous post brings up a key point,you CANNOT transfer one school to another if you are acedemically inelgible or in disciplinary trouble. You have to be in good standing in order to make the switch and perform in extraciricular activities, in no disciplinary trouble.i.e explelled or suspended.

If you move into the area and have residence in that area then you can go to that school all nice and legal. It happens all of the time.For rules on eligibilty go to cifss.org and it is refered to as a "bonafide change of residence".I agree with cvbaseball fan that is funny coming from a huskie,I thought you guys knew the transfer and eligibility rules better than anyone!

Actually you both raise good points. Anyone cut from one school or academically ineligable should not be allowed to switch schools just like that. All it shows is that these kids and thier parents only care about sports and for the majority of high school athletes. That will not take them anyweher.

SHHuskie -- Got a question for you. How is a player who is academically ineligible at one school one week, all of a sudden eligible and playing at another school the next week? No one from South Hills should ever question the mysterious things that happen! LOL

Actually if anyone can answer that question, I would appreciate it?

Quick question SGV Fan. How can you get cut from a sports team and switch schools right in the middle of the year?

Aram, I think you have done a great job covering baseball from all of the local schools. I realize that many great athletes have been overlooked due to the limited space in prep sports news, however, I was so impressed with a couple of story's about a SHHS wrestler and a WCHS wrestler. Their academic accomplishments were so inspiring and I would love to read about talented athletes/scholars in baseball from any local high school. Boys that are well rounded both on the field and in the classroom would definitely be an inspiration I could share with my six-year-old son, who loves the game.

We here at Damien need to get rid of Vasquez so we too can enjoy the playoffs. I hope the rumors of players transferring isnt correct, but I wouldnt blame them. Over on the other bb board I placed some of my other feelings about the state of damien baseball and athletics in general. Check it out if your a damien fan.

The coaches at CO pulled the stats off max preps because the averages wasn't there. At that time, there was one hitter over .350 and zero over .400.

They had a team batting average of .210 and run production was poor. Pitching was keeping them in the games. If they are so good, lets see it!

CO Bro,

So we should start claiming that amat is in "West Puente Valley"?!?

http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&trf=0&lon=-117.993507&lat=34.04313&mag=6

The best overall player on CO would have to be jacob bailey the sophmore catcher.Two pitchers who have had good seasons are Eric ortega and Tyler Garkow,the latter cut from the Glendora High program and transfered to CO at the start of last year.He is one of two players cut from GHS program playing in this game,Brandon Floch the starting first baseman for Covina,being the other.He also was cut from the CO program in January of this year,however there were off of the field issues that played in to it involving egging and TP'ing of star players houses.I am sure GHS would say good riddance to both of them,but the fact of the matter is both have got of the floor and are having good years at their respective schools. As far as good hitters for CO,Bailey,Ayers,and Jc torres are having decent years swinging the bat.Many fun,exciting storylines entering the game,good luck to both teams and their coaches Quinley and Tiffany,Root and Merrill.

Ok so now that we got the city of CO as an exsisting entity, let get down to business. Who is the favorite between CO and CV? Can anyone here mention a player that stands out of CO?

the resdential area of Charter Oak is about as real as Hanalee (you know where puff the magic dragon lives)...

Charter Oak is not the school, or person, complaining about lack of coverage.

Living Legend...
FYI...there is such a place as Charter Oak. It is recognized as an unincorporated city of Los Angeles. It is only approx. 1 square mile big. I know I live in Charter Oak. My mail is addressed as Charter Oak.
Hell I can't even get a Covina Library card without paying $35 because I don't live in "Covina". Everyone from CO might not live in Charter Oak but we all claim Charter Oak as our home.
http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#tp=undefined&tt=91724&trf=0&mvt=m&lon=-117.842188&lat=34.104982&mag=5

Looks like SH will be meeting Loyola, who just beat Costa Mesa 10-1, they hit five homers. Welcome to CIF a tough one is coming to town.

So Aram let me get this straight people are complaining about not getting covered...and then they are getting angry cause you covered Arroyo...Wow CO come on, is it not bad enough that you people believe you live in a community called Charter Oak (there is no such place it is in the city of Covina), now you guys are crying cause a local paper does not cover you enough. Get over it, you guys are always the constant under-acheiving school, that is the real story...why is it that more often then not CO falls short. More talent then just about any school in the valley and just can never really get it done (of course there are exceptions). And believe me it is not the coachs are not the problem over at CO, it is these parents who believe that their child is the next coming. To all parents this is not Hollenbeck and this is not your life. So get over it, you are embarrassing yourself.

Covina has the better talent (Pill, Waterbury.) CO has the better coaching (Q, Tiff, and Nichols)This should be a great game for the city and for all involved in Covina Baseball (Hollenbeck) I know where I will be on Thursday.

amend that .

St Paul was Angelus League Champs 12 of 14 years. They were co-champs once and tri-champs another time. And then came MSGR.

MAT...

You are right about the farce through the first few rounds, but our boys' basketball team did lose to Bassett?!?! And they CHOSE to play them. At least baseball is just beating up on those that CIF throws in front of them.

The blame game lands on only one bald dome and that is Msgr Carroll's. St Paul is still trying to recover from his reign as their principal in the '80s. They won 10 of 14 Angelus League Championships prior to '81. Now he's done his magic at amat. When he goes, we can get back to trying to restore power. Until then the poor coaches are swimming upstream and working way harder than they should have to just to stay above water.

DB got a tough draw, Redlands East Valley away to start it off. Then, if they take care of biz on thurs, they'll "get" to play the #1 team in Div 2 Camarillo---PERFECT......bring it on and git r done!!!!

We duck no one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big time backer of Amat sports programs but this baseball team in div.5 is not a true test for our Lancers. I know CIF etc. put us there but come on we play the winner of Village Christian / La Puente in the next round...."La Puente"?????Whats this world coming to if we are matched up against La Puente?...This Amat Baseball team is too good to be playing that far down....Blame Manzo, Blame Carroll, Blame CIF , what a farce this is......

Too bad i was going to set you up with a hottie, Send your girlfriend to the game i promise i will be nice

Aram,
Let's hope that it's a great game. Thanks for the rebuttal.

If CO wins its because coaching, Covina has better all around talent. CO does not have anyone in their lineup that can bring fear to a pitcher, so Pill should be able to do the job. But like i said earlier CV tends to choke and i mean this

Eddie (McKiernan) goes to Monrovia and is part of the Star-News coverage. You can read plenty about him there.

De La Fuente has had two articles written about him, one by my girlfriend as a matter of fact.

Olivares, we'll see what the future holds.

I love to watch the best players i go to games just to see them, I believe they deserve all the recognition that is why i mentioned all the other names because people dont know much about them. For example how many people know about Olivares, his stats and what college he is going (Irvine)? Eddie and his great accomplishments? Rodriguez? DeLa Fuente who is a football and baseball stud
Do you see where i am coming from? spread this talent its a great thing

Actually, I favor CO in this game. I think that Pill will have to pitch a gem for Covina to have a chance. He could, but I just think that top-to-bottom, CO is better. But thanks for the assumption.

Give us a break, Aram. The only reason that this game (Covina/Charter Oak) has "significance" is the fact that you're hoping for a Covina romp. You have issues with Charter Oak and a big win for Covina will be a big win for you.
Looking at your blog headline, it would appear that you are counting Charter Oak out.

If Covina wins, it will be plastered across Section C...COLTS CORRAL CHARGERS!!! (plus the 5 or 6 pictures of Tyler Pill)
If Charter Oak wins, all that will be posted the next day is the box score.

Try this headline...

"Is it time for Covina to get "charged" up?"

NVFan,

Opinions about the media and its motives are a dime a dozen. As it pertains to me, you have to understand that Tyler Pill is one of the area's top players. He's one of the area's better pitchers and one of its better hitters. He will likely go to the college of his choice or be drafted. Plus, he carries a big name as it pertains to the SGV. His brother won a College World Series and is now in the minors. I play up kids like this, because they're part of what make this Valley great.

And Tyler isn't alone in being one of our studs. If you'll recall, the Trib just had a feature story on Will Davis, who will hopefully get drafted next month. And there have been others.

When fans go to the game, even Charter Oak fans, they will be excited to watch him play. They'll be excited to beat him while he's on the mound or excited to get him out when he's at the plate. That's the way it should be.

You know, I've found this is sometimes a problem in the SGV. Not enough people embrace the standouts, and some of them even try to bring them down. Respect the game, is all I'm saying.

Hey CO fan we know its you CVfan hiding under another name. And to answer your post, no i dont have a problem with Pill. I am sure he is a great kid i dont have a reason to dislike him, the best player in his league, not the valley. When you are one of the best you have to take the praise along with the fall. When he wins a game its him who will get the praise the same has to come when you lose 3 big games. This is part of accepting being a leader.
Trust me when i tell you if i was to feel differnet i would blast him.

The game has its significance, even Pill its a great one (don't tell CVfan i said it), I just have noticed that you tend to enhance him a lot more then the other great players. The Media tends to do this sometimes, Clemens misses spring training, likely took steroids and he is a savior. If Bonds was to do the same they would crucify him.
So there is no hard feelings is the nature of the beast, you are media, true?
I will give you some love on your last post "Breakfast Club" a good one. I assume i am the troublemaker

Anyone who has been reading this blog for a while can tell that NVFan has a problem with Tyler Pill. Have no idea why. I am excited that we are playing Covina. These guys have all played together at Hollenbeck over the years but never get to play each other cuz they're in different leagues. Stop being such a whiner all the time. Should be a great game!

Oh I get it, I have to spread love. I need to make sure that for every pic of a Covina kid, there's one for Northview, Charter Oak or Amat at a later date. Because, after all, guys like you are counting.

So even though De La Fuente, Olivares and Rodriguez aren't playing in the Covina-Charter Oak game, I should throw them on there. That's funny, I think I can recall a thread with a pic of Coach Murphy running onto the field after the win over Monrovia. I also remember another one with Northview players celebrating. Oh yeah, and then there was the one with a San Dimas player sliding across home plate.

You know, I kinda feel like the principal in "The Breakfast Club."

Vernon: You just bought yourself another Saturday.
Bender: Ugh, I'm crushed.
Vernon: You just bought one more right there.
Bender: Well, I'm free the Saturday after that. Beyond that, I'm gonna have to check my calendar.
Vernon: Good. Because its going to be filled. We'll keep going. Want another one? Say the word. Just say the word. Instead of going to prison you'll come here. Are you through?
Bender: No.
Vernon: I'm doing society a favor.
Bender: So?
Vernon: Thats another one right now. I've got you the rest of your natural born life if you don't watch your step! You want another one?
Bender: Yes.
Vernon: You got it! Right there, thats another one pal.
Vernon: You through?
Bender: Not even close, BUD.
Vernon: Good. You got one more, right there.
Bender: You really think I give a (blank)?
Vernon: Another. You through?
Bender: How many is that?
Brian: Thats seven including when you asked Mr.Vernon here if Barry Manilow knew that he raided his closet.
Vernon: Now its eight.You stay out of this.
Brian: Excuse me, sir, its seven.
Vernon: Shut up, Peewee. You're mine, Bender.For two months, I've gotcha.
Bender: What can I say? I'm THRILLED.

NVFan, do you realize that the Charter Oak-Covina game has special significance because it's the only all local first round matchup? Not to mention, these are two schools from the city. Not to mention that fans on both sides of the field will be from Tribune area schools.

Words like "Is it time for Charter Oak to take its Pill?" along with a large picture. The first time and only time he beat NV there was a similar headline saying "You can do a lot in headlines with the word Pill" along with another large picture. So isn't this promoting a star?
You asked the question and i answer, I have yet to see a pic of the other great local players (who are better)on your blog or paper, Rodriguez, Pedrosa, Olivaras, DeLa Fuente, Eddie. So isn't this promoting a star? Don't they also deserve some love?

What does prop superstar mean?

Well CVfan this your time, Aram has prop superstar again so this time there can no more choking and excuses. Just make sure if you choke again dont blame the bus, the defense, and hitting. Remember you are not playing a team with superstars, just a good JV team.

Hey Co dont throw stones out of glass houses....we dont need to start talking about ex-co students in prision for life for murder

Oh please!! Don't start with past issues that have nothing to do with THIS YEAR. Every team has their issues, and Charter Oak is no exception.

CO all the way. not only do we play better baseball but our players don't follow the 'bone thug' code that many "c town" players follow. i won't get into detail....

if you don't agree, just look at the fact that one of "c town"'s former c/o 05 baseball player is in the Pen (jail) right now. i won't release his name but stuff like that speaks volume about a lot of things.

What ever happened to all of those players from Amat? Haven't heard much about any of them.

D5 for Amat is a joke. Say what you want about 2001-02 and their winning D4, but no one would argue, those Amat teams WERE LEGIT. Simon, Lange, etc... This years group (and next year for that matter) could'nt hold their jock! Mistone vs Hildalgo??? Not even Close....

Good luck to them, but keep it real and what it is!!

Nice move MANZO!!! Anus...

Lclfan

Playoffs are always the best time of the yr. Lots of drama, kids playing at their highest intensity level. Should be a great two weeks.

ps amat in division 5 is a joke and never count out romano (Nogales)in the playoffs. probably wont win it all but he can upset someone.