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I'm not to sure about Northview, Aram. Saw a little bit of Spring Ball the other day and I wasn't too impressed. Not very big, didn't look very fast and there were only about 50 kids out there. What the heck is going on over there???

M.M.----I'll be there in 45 min or so, then again fri if I dont work..... the wager is set,its on, the 'finest' against the 'dirtiest', no points either way.....lets git it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....

Okay Randy...I'll be your Huckleberry...lol

You're on!...Was that the Diamond Bar Firemen they sent over...ouch! lol

When you going to the next DB practice? Would love to see them.

where did Romines play ball?..and the QB Fernandez?...we had a ringer def. back that was supposed to show up and shut Romines down....he obviously no showed......i'll take NYPD, with the loaded pizza on the line and 2 pitchers of beer....." Alright, lets do it lunger!!!!!!!!!"

Sorry Randy that was Mean Machine

LA vs NY....should be fun!

See you are the Orange Bowl....opps you guys lost...my bad...lol

Randy I think DB and Ayala have a better chance to do well than most peple think. One you've both been Champions before, Second you guys have resources and facilities to develop any program level $$$$ and commitment can dream up.

DB should be alot better this year,. Same thing happened to CO a couple of season back when they were young and inexperienced and last year they were in the title game and this year they are senior loaded and ready for another run.

Good luck with DB. As far as the NYPD beating "us" I doubt it. Let's bet a Pizza on it! Petrillo's for me! With everything plus Jalapenos!

mean machine....nypd wipes the floor up with your keystone cops next month, lets bet on it!

Now, Temescal Cyn beat us 40-3. Their second and 3rd stringers didnt score a point in the second half against us--kinda like your team. My point here is that our team was to young last yr and had trouble against everyones starters, we had a team of juniors with little varsity playing time, and soph's with no varsity playing time! OUR WHOLE TEAM comes back this year angry and hungry, a good combo to start with!!!!!! We only had 8 seniors, and 4 or 5 played much at all.

Temescal was a CIF semi-finalist in '05, had another run last yr, and should continue to enjoy success for quite a awhile seeing how much talent is drifting out towards the I.E these days......I still think that DB and Ayala should be relocated to D6 and make a go of it there. Maybe the whoile Sierra league should drop, D2 I.E. teams are obviously a few steps of where we used to be, look what they did to you guys......

We do ok if not better than that in the other sports and I dont think we'll be allowed to drop anytime soon just cuz one sport is slumping.....We gotta suck it up and find a way!!!

Randy, Temescal Canyon was 6-4 in the Inland Empire area and smokes the No.1 team in the SGV area Damien who was 8-2. What does that tell you?

What does Norco do to an All Star Team made up of SGV Stars? Beats them 40-17.

Plaid fans this is what we can expect this coming year.

7:00 PM kick-off time for all games.

Covina (fri-9/7)=Home
Etiwanda (fri-9/14)=Away
Charter Oak (fri-9/21)=Away
West Ranch (thurs-9/27)=Home
El Dorado (thurs-10/4)=Home
Damien (fri-10/12)=Home
Chino Hills (fri-10/19)=Away
Chino (fri-10/26)=Away
Ayala (fri-11/2)=Home
Diamond Bar (thurs-11/8)=Away

Randy,
You forgot to mention West Covina when you said the only SGV teams close to the Sierra league teams are SH. LA. & CO., remember that the Bulldogs were in the Sierra league in the late 90's,& early 2000's, usually in 3rd or 4th place
but they finished in second in their final year in the Sierra, and they usually played tough games against D-Bar & Damien.

good pitching and "d" will beat good hitting, especially when the good hitting team only scores 1 run and doesnt play solid "D". Hey, they lost...you tip your cap to the toothless wonders from Redlands, and walk off the field holding your head high! No one got their butts kicked out there!

DB played .500 ball ever since spring break eneded.... ya just cant do that. We'll be back in Baseball, Hoops and Football....we have 16 returning varsity starters, 8 of them starting lineman, who have survived a brutal year. We will be back! Count on it....

Maybe you are right Randy and maybe you are not....we will see....this Amat team is allot better than last years team....What has D'BAR done to improve themselfs?...new coach but not allot of talent there.......that baseball first round exit with a player like Gary Brown was pathetic.

keep dreaming kid.....unless those lineman from last yr are on roids, then your gonna get beat down in the trenches and lose an ugly one to them....but you keep dreaming.....ya'll say you king sh*t around here, and that may be true, but you aint "jack" on the PAC 5 scene.....smoke and mirrors from the teams of past days dont scare NOBODY anymore.....

Randy,

Stomp out guts out...dont be shocked if we beat Orange Lutheran.........Amat coming to play.

Mean Machine? what league does your team play in? Please say Amat...otherwise S-T-F-U and know your place. The Sierra League teams play in Div 2, which has some hardcore I.E. bro's who play T-O-U-G-H,....the only teams near them are LA, CO, and DR....in the SGV....

And if you do claim Amnot, then Loyola would be the only team on your list that your sweetheart darlings beat lately,.....in fact....Loyola was the only PAC-5/Div 1 school on that so called "tough guy" list Amnot beat last year.......I cant wait for O-Lu to come into town and stomp your guts out...

Response to: Supertart

Saw your blog and I think we are "simpatico." I believe that the crutch of what we often read sounds more like initial "bragging rights" when the season hasn't even left the tar-mac. Yes, we (GHS) might be stronger, faster, and more experienced then some teams, but we should not be fooled by the loss of any of our opponents skilled or franchised players. I can assure you that they (Damien, Chino Hills, Chino, Diamond Bar, and Ayala) have found some way to reload and I guarantee you that their powder is dry.

AntiAmat---

Don't know what "powder puff" practices you have attended, but two of the three different team practices I have attended, especially Glendora, I have observed "STRONG, FAST AND BRUTAL" performances from many of the kids. You don't have to being wearing pads to perform with intensity, strength, speed, etc.. Yes, even BRUTAL performances.

Of course, I can understand some teams don't take spring seriously. One of the three teams I saw spent the entire practice laying out schemes only.

I wish people would stop saying the Sierra League is TOUGH. How? Compared to what league? Or what division?

That's not the case. The get blown out in the playoffs. They get their asses kicked when the play out of the Valley. Two of the six teams in the league (Diamond Bar and Ayala) have been aweful for the past 4 years. Monger is gone from Chino. Glendora is .500 and one and done in their playoff years. The "jewel" of the league Damien is .500 over the past 4 years and the "King of the Hill", Chino Hills, is just getting started.

So why the "tough Sierra League" comments? I think the SGV is not tough at all. Talented yes, tough absolutely not! Just look at the whining that goes on about a TOUGH Covina team...they were tough!

Play Carson, Dorsey,Birmingham, Notre Dame, Norco,St. Bonaventure, Loyola and then you're T.O.U.G.H. Until then it's just "friends playing friends and neighbors playing neighbors"!

It's like watching two average boxers of similar talent. Mikey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti. Their fights were classic, brutal and very exciting in their show of will and determination but in the scheme of things they were "club fighters" at best!

Just got a look at the Glendora schedule. You guys aren't kidding. It is going to be a tough one.

"It's still early, but these experienced studs really know their assignments; STRONG, FAST AND BRUTAL would be my observation."

How did you get STRONG, FAST and BRUTAL (especially brutal) out of 1 weeks work of spring practice? (No pads, not at full speed etc.)

PLAID-LAD

My comment re Tartans competition being lighter this year was strictly re offenses in league play. No way can you believe for a moment that sierra league offenses (Qb's, receivers and running backs)will be better this year vs last, when so many great players have graduated. Yea, all teams will reload, but with less experienced and, in most cases, less skilled players. Now, this will not always be the case, but, overall, this is my opinion.

Respnse to: Supertart

Read your response and comment to "Mike the Clone" regarding the Tartans competition being "lighter this years then last..." Sorry, but I don't agree with that comment. GHS will experience a greater challenge then last year by everyone we pair off with. Yearly most teams lose a few franchise players but often they are able to reload with underclassman. GHS is no different then most. In reference to the competitive Sierra League....GHS will be stronger in certain positions and possibly above to below average in others. The real test of their legacy and success will lie with each players ability to understand and execute the new offensive schemes and defensive sets created by Pasqy and Stycer. The 2007 schedule will be tough....and no one...and I mean, no one....should expect that we will automatically win because we might be alittle bigger, faster, stronger, etc.....Keep the faith and always be for real.

Aram
Thanks for the top ten list. Is a top ten positions list in the works

Saw Glendora practice last week and will be seeing CO this comming week (report later).

Heard alot about this "awesome" Glendora defense and I was every bit impressed after seeing them. It's still early, but these experienced studs really know their assignments; STRONG, FAST AND BRUTAL would be my observation. There is alot of muscle out there, the kids have certainly been doing their weight training in off season.

I saw at least two young QB's working the offense; both were very impressive, smart, good arms, accurate and fast. Both need to gain a little weight.

A number of real speedsters for running backs, smaller under wait though. Glendora seems to have several, very good receivers with good size this season. Very exciting.

Overall impression: Very, very strong defense. Much bigger o line than expected with very good strength and speed. Excited about the QB potential: at least two very smart QB's, good arms, speed and strong leadership/presence. Very sure handed tall receivers. Several of the running backs need to gain some weight, very fast though.

League potential: Can't imagine many teams scoring much on this D. Glendora won't need many points to win games. I am not worried about this offense at all. Should be top contender in league.

I will report on CO next week.

FootballSpy

CO is loaded? What happened to the Twin Towers I thought I read where Aram wrote they were going to Stanford, did that work out?

Second , what happened to Michael Johnson. I thought he took plays off last year but I only saw him 3 times. Just my opinion. Did he sign anywhere?

What about Pyscho? Where is he going? I loved his energy. The new QB, not Carreon, is pretty good. I think he's huge right? He was a little tenative but maybe he'll jump out this year. I can not wait for the Damien - CO matchup this year. Could be Game of the Week.

Going to see Chino Hills and Bishop Amat next week. That should be fun. Aram's right it ain't about schemes it's about how "prepared" a team acts and looks in Spring Ball.

After that it's Passing League and everyone gets to see that. But once the season starts it's "TOTAL SILENCE" about anything at ANY practice.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the QB situation at Orange Lutheran?

Really wondering--thanks!!

CO loaded...

That's the 2nd or 3rd time I've heard said that Charter Oak has 10 starters returning on D. Let's see, I know your D studs included Johnson (gone) and Pasalo (gone) and didn't that Arreola (gone)kid start too? Last time I checked, there's only 11 spots.

6 rb's that could start at 90% of the schools in the valley

10 returners on d

there qb is back

mean machine,
ya he was an up down last year but thats only because he had preston hoppers at strong tackle ahead of him other wise im sure he would have played

ARROYO is a good pick for the pre-season top 10. Aram knows his football when he talks about "good QB + good coach = good season".
Brian Partida is going to have a stellar senior season as QB and Head Coach Jim Singiser is looking for his fourth MVL Championship in five years!!
Plus, the Knights have a solid offensive line, an experienced and stingy "swarm" defense and some good targets for Partida to throw to. It's true that Arroyo has a multitude of talented players returning, but who are the transfers that Aram mentioned and how good are they? What positions do they play and where did they come from?
The MVL schedule for Arroyo sets up very nicely:
Open league play by hosting El Monte (was an awesome game last year),
then @ Mountain View,
the Grudge Match and chance for sweet revenge when the Knights host the visiting SEM Eagles (I can see the "Not THIS year!" and "Not in OUR HOUSE!" posters already)
then the rivalry/cross-town showdown @ Rosemead in week nine,
and a week ten home game with Gabrielino.
The Knights should head into CIF with an undefeated league championship, a train-full of momentum and a home game for the first round.
GO KNIGHTS GO!

Hey Aram,

Just curious, what makes Charter Oak loaded? Like, what your report on them?

Thanks

Looks like Bishop and Los Altos have left and are boycotting the blog.....seriousness is setting if with their fans.

Mike , you're welcome.

Yes someone mention the kid was a tall blonde headed kid with curls. He's a real talent. I couldn't believe it when someone mentioned he played JV last year? Is that true. I liked the kid. Great upside. At least without pads. Maybe he's a senior comer and late bloomer but he's strong, big and dominant. I'd like to see him at LB to see if that suits him as well.

Seen Damien today and those boys are huge, and not in a good way. They looked a little blown up. Maybe Morrison will pare them down with windsprints but the linemen looked puffy big not yoked out big. One of the Dads said the players were on a 4000 calorie diet to gain size but I find that hard to believe. Maybe someone could address that tall tale. Either way Damien is loaded with size, and skilled position people. As wierd as it sounds they might be better than last year. The season will rest with the QB and RB. Pertrusati and McMahon will deteremine the success of keeping that young defense off the field long enough for it to jell.

What's going to be interesting is how many new players and stars will come from the Freshman class who are really, really talented. Again why do players insist on not dressing alike and making so many modifications to the uniforms? Get a clue you're on a TEAM look like IT!

An interesting side note the last time Damien won league/shared league was in 2003-2004 with the great Ian Johnson. The very next year Damien went 2-8. That might happen again. But then again lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place does it?

SD Alum

San Dimas has added Dane Johnson to the varsity staff. Mr. Johnson has coached the freshman over the last two years. Good football man and well respected coach by the players! He sports a CIF ring from WC.

Its going to be an exciting year in the VVL.

I saw CO today ... oh my gracious!!!! Wow! That team is loaded. It's nothing that I didn't already know, but many of the returning players look like they put their time in.

SD Alum, the Saints should be looking pretty tough this year. They got a stud running back in Nico Barbone and a pretty strong supporting cast.
The coach, Bill Zerniko has been there 3 years now and has done an okay job. His main assistance are offensive coordinator Holman and defensive coordinator Madrano. It's an okay coaching staff, but could be better.

SuperTart,

Hey man hope your right I'd like to go out with a bang.....we'll see though.

The El Do game well let's just say we will find out just how good we really are.

Hang tough SuperTart when the season comes around it's going to be time to pull those belts down and hold on tight.

Plaid Laddie you crack me up man!I had a good laugh at the "brainiac" comment. You know how it is with us "know it alls"

Late Guys!

Mike the Clone

Just moved back in the area, and heard about this blog. How is San Dimas projected to finish? Who are the coaches now, and are they any good? How about players? Seem to have a ton of people on here that know their stuff. Please let me know.

SD Alum

Response to: Mike the Clone

Regarding, coaches decisions made last year.

I feel your pain buddy! I think the reason I like watching HS FTB is because year in and out the coaches often make critical calls or decisions that the fans in the stand and the highly experienced football brianiac's don't understand either. It should always be in our character to question, but never challenge the decisions made by our beloved coaches. Heck, if they had all the answers everyone would be winners. SGV has a grip great coaches that maintain a sharp eye and influence on each of thier athletes. It would cheat a program if I failed to identify and mention a SGV team that didn't have a great staff that was willing to pass forward their knowledge and experience. The perfect game does not exist....and I don't expect to see one each Friday. So...coaches don't stop making those wacky calls because if you do we won't have anything to blog about.

truth is that daunte webb never really showed up for the offseason strength and conditioning program and one of the coaches said dont bother coming to football

there is a tall curly blonde hair on varsity who plays strong side tackle for glendora

Mean Machine---

Appreciate your good comments re my Tartans. However, not quite sure who you were discribing as the "Tall red curly haired strong side tackle". Varsity doesn't have a red curly haired strong side tackle. Maybe it was the JV team you were enjoying. Both teams practice at the same time on the same field. The JV team average size is quite large...looks like a varsity team. Anyway, thanks for the good comments.

Mike the Clone---

I beleive this will be the year for the Tartans. The team will be better on both sides of the ball and competition should be a little lighter than last season. Looking forward to the El Do game.

coaches corner,

Duarte will have a great season this year guarantee we beat monrovia cant wait until summer league starts.

All true,

Amat loyalist stay off the blog ,for good or bad thoughts, lets back our team that takes the field. Leave all the Amat talk to the haters. We do not need to feed the sharks here. We are proud of our Men in Blue&Gold.

Oh brother,
First of all don't get your hopes up that the blog came from AMAT. Nobody but ourselves care about our talent in the SGV for the simple fact that they don't play . Why should they care about a sub .500 team that doesn't have a chance in hell in D1 and is so bad off and out of touch with reality as has been stated in these blogs. As for this being from Manzo or any other AMAT person I doubt that. Just another weasel trying to stir up the pot because we don't care what anybody else thinks of us .We are the best .You know it and so does everyone else. If it is from Manzo, stick to administration and leave the blogging to the Fans and Family of AMAT.

Aram, Tribsters:

Listen, it's fair to say that once in a while I gotta grab my man coachescorner by the collar and yank him back onto the sideline. His Cat loyalty runs deep; I'm sure you all can respect at least that. And it's also fair to say that you eastsiders are bad ass when it comes to the gridiron. We know that over here. Once in a blue moon we sneak over there and get one (cc mentioned that), and maybe more often we come over and get blasted (cc mentioned that, too). But we come over!

Yet here are a couple more things that are also fair to say:
1. When WestCo dropped us from their schedule after last season, many calls WERE made to many Tribune schools seeking a game. (Not the traditional behemoths, mind you, but many other schools.) End result, after lots of flat "no" responses, was that Monrovia had to go to freakin' Orange County to get a game.
2. Somewhere around 105 victories in the last 11-12 years or so, and NOT from a school that plays a soft pre-league schedule...indicates that we are solid. And while we can't speak convincingly about deep post-season runs in the last 7-8 years, most coaches will admit that if you're playing Monrovia, you've got yourself a game.
3. The Monrovia/Duarte game this fall will be a battle. Aram is right about Duarte. Scary team.

Anyway, I got your respect for you, eastside. cc does, too; he just still hasn't come down from knocking the trojans OUT.

Have a great season.

Mean,

Now, Now, let’s not jump to hasty conclusions….

With that said I still think this past was the year for us to win a league title at least. Getting past teams like Redlands now that is a different story.

Yeah we have a height problem at “Bagpiper U” but what we lack in size we make up in heart and desire. We need to get these boys to be corn fed and biscuit eating if you know what I mean.

Remember “Kaluz” the QB is still a youngster and I expect him to come through. He’s had enough varsity rep’s as a sophomore.

The kids up front are working hard.

Frankly I just don’t know what to expect this upcoming season, especially with what was going on down on the field in regards to some of coaching decisions being made this year.

Late!

Mike the Clone

Please...

Nobody in the SGV cares about your "talent" except for you.

"You wouldn't worry about what people thought of you if you knew how seldom they did"

Hey all Amat bloggers lets not show our hand here and let our team do its talking on the field this coming Football season. Dumping our dirty laundry and giving away what we have on the talent side and coaching side is for our eyes only. Amat bloggers let everyone else go for the jugular on each other and lets band together and not talk until after game one....it is no ones business but our own on what happens over here in Lancer Country.

Enough with the aimless bickering already. This is supposed to be a football thread, yet again some people have managed to turn this thread into a debate over who knows more than who & how to down one another in proper english format. THAT IS WHY THIS IS A BLOG PEOPLE. IT IS INFORMAL AND YOU CAN SPEAK HOW YOU WISH! For all the "english professors" and "know it alls" how about we get back to talking football and forget who has better facts and writting skills.

i saw damien practice yesterday
man are they big
the linemen are out of this world
and rabe oh my god
beast of a man
pertasati looked very solid
as well as mcmahon
this team is going to be good

Hey Coach: You have another thing coming if you thing Monrovia is a top team...What has Monrovia done since 98..hold on let me answer that for you, nothing! Are you not the school were you OC and DC quit during the season because of your crazy head coach. I mean lets be real you guys from Freddies zone have not won a significant game this side of the 605 in lets say a decade. I mean the annual all star game that is between the east and the west says it all..I dont think you guys have even showen up in an eon. maybe you dont get a call back cause of the aweful officals that you guys have in that area.

Mike,

Seen Glendora yeasterday. Mike it's going to be a long season. I thought they'd be bigger. Like the linemen though. The tackles are solid. I really liked the strong side tackle. Tall kid wih red curls. Good feet, solid base and he moves well. I really liked the way he attacks and moves on his blocks. The center's tight.I liked the MLB as well. Great energy, looks like a leader from jump. he has a great time at practice and gets it done in drills.

The WRs are fast and have good hands. But the QBs are thin and thinner. Hopefully they're tough. I also saw a big weak side tackle that seems to have pretty good explosion. It's early and no one has pads but I believe in Pasy and maybe the stars will line up for you guys. I like the coaching staff as well. Very positive and very attentive to both good and bad plays. Nice place to play football.

I still would like to see teams with "uniformed" uniforms even in spring ball. It makes for a better sense of purpose and accountability.

Didn't see you there but best of luck with your boy.

Thoughtless, I'm glad you've moved on to bigger and better things. That way you might not have to keep up with the "bias" commented. I might be "biased" but that what separates us. You think you know and I do. Sorry.

The SGV is watered down. That's my point. It's my opinion. I've seen better programs in different parts of So. Cal. and that's just a fact. I already explained why the staffs I mentioned are quality yet you think it's "guessing". Based on what? Have you seen them conduct practice? No but I have. And that's how I based my opinion. Sorry you did not understand my comments but that's how I came to that comclusion. You say I'm wrong so enlighten me and tell me who the best staffs are in the SGV. Don't even bother with the criteria I'll let you off that hook.

Either way you started the dialouge it's only fitting you have the last word. Getting my lawn chair ready for the mental starburst I'm about to receive, wait where are my sunglasses.

As far as Dumb would be professor- Isn't that a Socratic reference to "Think about it" What a joke. By the way what is a "clue about football" ---a single clue? lol

DWP - DUMB WOULD-BE PROFESSOR

Simple I'm tired of answering ignorance once again. Say what you want your bias and everyone knows your opinions is off you being bias.

I dont really care what your professor says, cause honestly you haven't really done good job of listening. Look at what you say, great quotes are stated by you, but you have no real understanding of what they mean.

So, I will not be sarcastic, I will not be metaphorical, rather, I 'll just man up and speak the truth.

You'ra a bias, dumb would-be professor that has no clue of football. Go live vicariously through your kids and other kids experience of football. Cause obviously you haven't answered any of my questions. You still have no clue what my conversations are about. Keep blogging, that's fine, it makes for a good laugh.

Honestly, this is the last I will answer ignorance-meaning this is the last time I answer you.

Maybe if you can give me a non-bias reasonable WELL THOUGHT OUT opinion I will answer with sincerity and integrity. So farewell DWP, I have more important matters to attend to.

GO ALL OF SGV

Coaches Corner

Wow, I want to tranfer my kid to play in the Rio Hondo League LOL

Your a three team league at best! Covina would have kicked your ass last year!

Sorry guys I should have spell checked before I threw that up here..hectic morning at the office here.

Late!

Mike

Coach your kidding me…RIGHT! Welcome to the big leagues I’m sure there are some guys here want to school you and rebut some of your backhanded smack you write here.

I’m sure my friends at Covina, San Dimes and Rowland will have something to say about your back handed swipe of their football programs. You’ve got nothing on guys like Colt Alum, Randy, Conqs Fan, Plaid Man, jeffrulerson, Colt 45, and Living Legend just to mention a few. Throw in my buddies from Amat and you guys on the Westside are an embarrassment.

Coach, Chino maybe 909 (as if that matters) but I’ll take Chino or anybody out of the Sierra league over any of your Westside powder puffs anytime. Maybe the guys in the 909 will have something to say about that.

1997/1998 that’s all you’ve got? Come on coach that’s weak, real weak… hell that was practically ten frecking years ago…hell it was ten years ago!

Enough said from “Mike the Kid Clone”; I’ll let the boy’s decide if they want to respond to you. This should be good if they decide too.

So let’em rip guys “Coaches Corner” has opened himself for easy target practice.

I AM OUT!

Mike the Clone

Thinkless or think less,

It seems there are always bloggers who decide to take on bloggers with nothing more than a well constructed sentence. Thinkless is just one more in a long line of "articulate know nothings". I'm more impressed with your sentence structure than your veiled analysis of football or your basic lack of football knowlegde.

My college professor once said just because your questions are well thought out doesn't mean they are well informed. In fact hey may accomplish the opposite and enlighten the class to your lack of preparedness and grasp of the material. In other words come correct or don't come at all. In street jargon.

That's your role here I think. Better yet offer an educated opinion based on your grasp of football. Winning Championships as Gano, Farrar and Bogan have puts them in elite company wouldn't you say. The remarkable thing about those coaches is that they play Sophs at the varsity level with ever increasing roles on the team as the season progresses. In other words they develop players regardless of starting points. That tells me that they mold "football players" and that's the sign of a great coach and not the other way around. Anyone who thinks great players make great coaches doesn't know squat and believes the great coaches as they compliment "players" after great wins.

Look at Lovie Smith from Chicago, Holmgren from Seattle, Reeves with Altanta , Fox from the Panthers none of those teams were any good before those coaches and usually fall from grace quickly when the "great" players believe they are the keys to the teams success.

Maybe you love sounding like the smartest guy in the room when we are talking football and in that arena you're a little unprepared.

Like I said. The SGV is watered down. That was my original point. Argue that and tell me why I'm wrong. Argue that they are not great coaches but don't spar with me about "guessing" I do my homework before I open my mouth. Maybe what I say disturbs your view but that doesn't change a thing I've written.

Look at your first rebuttal. EVERYTHING you thought I wrote was wrong. EVERY position you thought I had I DIDN'T. Somehow my professor had it right..you're unprepared.

Now take you own advice and "Can't we all get along" and "House divided" bumper sticker non sense. Go hug a tree and flash the grammar this is Xs and Os and you my thoughtless friend are just gum on my shoe. and you know the thing about gum, it loses it's flavor quickly.

hey aram when do the top ten for positions come out

Man talk about a sensitive crowd. All I bagged on was the PIGEONS(Duarte).I didn t call any of you Eastsiders out.I was just correcting false info about Monrovia Football.Thats how rumors get started.Anyways,Mike the Clone where do you get your info ,you must just be a kid,so I ll be easy on you.Covina, San Dimas..Rowland these guys won t even return a phone call.The Oak got our ... last 2 we played 2003/2004.Diamond Bar,well we were the only team to beat there famous 1997/1998 team, yes the same team that won CIF 2 years in a row with a 27-1 record.And Chino now your reaching.Last time I checked they were(909).See when you step up and Win big games in the past its a lot harder to get games in the future,geez look at Arcadia we just got them back last year after +10yrs of absense and those are one of our rivals.By the way we beat them by 20.So get your info right our I ll be correcting your ... again....GO BRUINS....13-9

Look at Tolegian pounding those fist back and forth on his chest as if he were king of the jungle and knocking that "wanna be" back to the Mister Freddies neighborhood.....

OUT!

Mike the Clone

Response to: Men Machine (May 16, 2007)

Totally support your comment on defining who come to play football...suit up and be ready to play and quit killing my grass. MM you get the Rogers and Ebert thumbs up.

Coaches Corner,

Come back when your area wins a CIF title or the All-Star Game. Then, maybe then, we'll listen.

Look at this guy from the Star-News running smack in here at Aram and us eastsiders....

Dude good back and get yourself all worked up into a frenzie about Monrovia. WOW, Big Deal, Whoopie!

These guys on the westside just don't know where real football is played. When they start consistently putting the teams like Amat, Chino, CO, Covina, Damien, LA, SD, Rowland,"Bagpiper U", D.Bar (who else am I missing?) on their sched's then these guys can come in here in pop off. Otherwise that's all they have over there other than those Championship badminton banners that wave majestically in the rafters of those westside gyms.

Oh wait...."the bagpipers" did play Temple City & Arcadia a few years ago at one time but embarassed both of them so bad it was like "No Mas, No Mas, No Mas" and dropped us from the schedule the following year.

Talk about soft, or maybe just weak!

Late!

Mike the Clone

WTF / MATBAG,

Why is is you Amat guys bash on everyone and now the in house fighting...especially WTF on purpose trying to get a rise out of MATBAG...Hope your team does not have your attitudes when it come to backing one another...

Joe Amat

Strycula is not coaching for Farrar and hasn't in awhile. And I would say that they have a barely amicable relationship.

What are you smokin Aram.Once in a while I ll chime in over here ,coming from the Star only to laugh again.Monrovia beat Duarte 42-6 last year.We sent 4 players off with free educations.All this really doesn t matter until September anyway so keep our name out your mouth.Lancer Pride...ON BLUE...half of you nons won t even know what that means,We Lancers will ....Go Bruins

Living Legend,

Small correction about the AD and Farrar. The AD is Joey Strycula who played for Farrar (as did the rest of his family - going back to when Farrar was at Royal Oak) and is presently on his staff. Probably makes for the pretty good relationship that exists.

Farrar and his relationship rest of the administration (particularly the new principal) might be another story.

First of all I have respect for all those coaches you just mentioned and I agree they are great coaches. I never said they weren't.

You still haven't answered all the questions. Just because your kids or friends kids played for these coaches, just shows that you are a prideful, ignorant parent, who just watched from the bleachers and still has no understanding of football.

Have you met Di Fiori do you know him personally? Probably not! You just give two bit comments on being a bleach watcher. Thanks, your more ignorant than I thought.

Tell me, how are you judging the past coaches when it the present coaches were talking about. Were talking about staffs of the present moment. Wow, even more dumb. Talk about now, not back then.

You have no idea what each school is trying to accomplish you just base your knowledge of other schools on hear say.

But your own personal experience was great, right. Well, I'm sorry you never experienced the Amat or Damien touch. But you cant take away from what these coaches are trying to do. And to indicate how dumb you are, if my sources serves me correctly Witherspoon is on Varsity.

Please stop with this blistering cause obviously you probably coached pop warner for ten yrs and now you are great expert with rational, thoughtful comments.

From this time I wlll answer stupidity.

You won!

Hey DWP of course the AD loves Gano, since the AD is Gano himself. And I dont know who told you that Farrar has a good relationship with the AD at CO cause that is just not true..well the fact that Farrar was replaced as the AD a couple of years ago might have something to due with the strained realtionship. Just thought i would help you out on your comment.

Can i just continue to add one thing Great Players make great Coachs...Farrar, Bogan and Gano have all had years they would rather forget and you know what it is not cause they forgot how to coach. It is however because the over all talent level in those years was not very good.

tnkaboutit, instead of exposing your basic lack of coaching knowledge and experience I'll leave it at that, your inexperience and pride.

Bishop Amat "Freshmen" coaches 2006-2007

Coach Canales. Former Head Coach at Cantwell High School. 25 years experience as a high school coach. Dean of Boys at Bishop Amat. Mutiple years as a Varsity position coach.

Coach Witherspoon. 20 plus years at the high school. Mutiple positions on Bishop Amat's staff.

That's quality brother. These guys do not coach for the wrong reasons---they do it because they love the sport and respect the kids.

As far as Gano, Farrar, and Bogan, well the truth is they are legends and can call their own shots at the schools. The AD love them and the coaches they hire are coaching to prepare players for varsity. My family played for Gano and Farrar. And my business partner's kid played for Bogan. all are quality coaches with great staffs.

But to answer your question: Does continuity make a great staff? NO! Quality makes Quality. Stupid is as stupid does. Look at the BUSH administration...did 6 years together make them better? NO!

As far as the lunch part...If Gano, Bogan or Farrar had Damien's size and talentof the past 4 years would they have gone .500? How about DiFiori? Would he have gone .500 with those teams playing in a public school league that blows?

Last four years:
Damien .500 (average staff)
Glendora .500 (average staff)
Ayala .300 (coaching turnover)
DB .300 (coaching turnover)
Chino. 750 (Quality coaches)
Chino Hills .750 (Quality coaches)

Best way to gauge a "program" is the quality of the Freshmen coaching staffs. Then the JV staffs and finally the Varsity staff. Quality programs look long term at success. Bad programs don't.

Again to WTF,

"THEY"....quite frankly are going to stay away and not support it until the AD leaves or reassigned......Your words WTF.....key word "THEY"...Whats wrong with "YOU"?...again speaking out of both sides of your WTF foul mouth. If you are so bent with the AD go face him and tell him.....and if you cant man up and do it STFU and live with it...I am.

DWP

Wow, your quite interesting, just because your seasoned as a coach doesn't mean your a better coach. Yes, it helps that you have seasoned coaches who have experience that cannot be duplicated. But that does not neccessarily mean you have a better staff. But some people just havent figured that out yet.

Criteria: I didnt know you acuatlly had criteria to what makes a coaching staff good. I mean did you even state that? No, you just gave the comment that you guessed they were the best in the valley, then making an absurd thoughtless comment you can eat those staffs for lunch. You're right their has been turnover at those schools, but that doesnt mean the staff that is at those schools are horrible. If you could tell me that continuty among staff it was makes a staff great, then maybe I would agree with you. But is that what makes a staff great? Number of years together?

I'm sorry, I apologize, don't even think about it anymore, you probably will just miss the point.

BTW- The season started a long time ago!

FOR ALL YOU READERS WITH KIDS AGES 6-14 YRS OLD :
The B.P. roadrunners will be having a youth football and cheer clinic this saturday at B.P.H.S
Put on by B.P. coaches. Its a good opportunity to get a little football in your system and also check out the new facilities at B.P. Registration begins at 7:00 a.m. Check out the B.P. ROADRUNNER WEBSITE FOR ANY MORE INFO....

GO BRAVES !!!!

Mean Machine,

Sounds very similar to military boot camp...

It works, your correct and I agree...

AnyMouse...

Seen two teams this week. Hope to see four by weeks's end. Then I'll give my early report.Seen one team this week and they were slow, fat and goofing off. Too bad. Day one is about leadership. That comes from within. Every year I see the same thing those BIG LAZY kids that are always in street clothes on the first day of practice. DISGUSTING! I'd kick them off the team to set an example.

Here are (2) rules for all you slackers...and that goes for coaches as well

Rule #1:

If you're a team. Dress like a team. Look like a team and by all means run like a team. (Why do coaches make parents buy those "spirit packs" and allow players to wear something different to practice!) Same socks, same shorts, same color shoes, same tops. NO MODIFICATIONS! That's called discipline. I'd run the team a 220 under time for every single infraction. That is what build unity and team discipline: ACCOUNTABILITY!

Rule # 2

If you can not practice. DO NOT COME TO PRACTICE IN YOUR STUPID STREET CLOTHES!!!!!!GET OFF THE FIELD WITH THAT BS! WEAR THE SAME THING THE TEAM IS WEARING OR GET TO THE TRAINING ROOM AND GET TREATMENT!Again it's about: ACCOUNTABILITY!

All you do is BS on the sidelines and look pathetic! And put down the footballs! You look ridiculous playing soft toss by yourself.

These lazy ass whiners are the cancers on any team. They are hurt every Monday but ready to go every Wed. or Thursday if the ego or laziness is really out of control. Disgusting!

Mt....

Ha Ha!! Thought that would provoke you..... Actually just wanted you to show your true colors.

So then according to your logic, since you're a proud alumni, etc.. and with your right of free speech, then you can as you have in previous posts, personally insult others. I mean we've all read how you've personally attacked quite a few individuals that are or have been associated with Amat.

You yourself have made personal degrading comments about some of those that have played a big part in the very successful history of Amat.

Why? Do you feel better now? Talk about ignorance. If you have such bad personal feelings for some of those, like you seem to have, why don't you MAN UP and confront those individuals face to face and tell them how you feel.

That I would call embarassing to all of US Alumni.

I personally know 3 or 4 of those people and you my friend are completely wrong. Good People, Great Intentions, Good Hearts.

Yes I did make a comment about the current Athletic administration, but if your are as close to the program as you say you are, then you also know that it IS TRUE!

Tens of fellow alumni that I have talked to are extremely disappointed in how the overall Athletic program is being run at Amat. They quite frankly are going to stay away and not support it until the AD leaves or is reassigned.

As for not being educated, I'll just laugh at your comment and not respond as I have alot more than you think.

I'm pretty sure I know who you are now, and I hope your happy in your Law enforcement/Probation Job.

You know to each their own right?

After all is said and done, we all want the same thing right?

And that is:

An AMAT that Will Shine!!

Mean Machine,

Your a good man and your one of the few that get get it!

My coaching days have long since been gone, Time to see the youngsters take their licks at it.

I do help the kids when I'm asked, but other than that it's not my place.That's what they have coaches for. I do like hearing what they are being taught though. I do have to admit it's tough just seating back and watching at times.

These Glendora kid's are just great to be around I'm very proud of the kid and all his "bagpiper" buddies.

I took the blowhard statement it as a compliment.(laughing)no worries.It takes a lot to offend me nowadays.

Out!

Mike the Clone

Damien has three fast players. Herrera, McMahon and Pertusati. I am not aware of any others can you?

A fast team has fast pursuing LB, fast quick DBs, quick aggressive DLinemen and quick powerful guards. At least that's what a team used to have when people said they had great "TEAM" speed.

When someone mentions the lack of team speed it means "OVERALL" team speed not fast receivers. They are suppose to be fast.

Congrats to Herrera though. How many football players ran track? 100? 200? 4x100?

ARAM,

Last comment on the RB and QB debate.

Temescal Canyon vs. Damien. Nuff said.

Damien with Ian Johnson. Nuff Said.

Damien with Danny Alfaro. Nuff said.

Covina with QB/RB Mc D....well that's why he went BACK TO BACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!

Aram...wondering how many top athletes SGV teams have that play and starter on three varsity sports. Is this once passage of exposure now considered not as important as it was in the past....and why?

Mike

Sorry about the "blowhard" comment. It was meant as a compliment, Yeah right. I mean that's what the GHS button wearers "might" think of you. Me I think you have some valid points. Maybe you should coach just to show what you can do and to illustrate your love for GHS.

Good luck with your son. Can not wait to see him practice. Just like I can not wait to see GHS and Pasy do their thing.

Best of luck dealing with the tree huggers. You know the kind. When they complain it's constructive and when you do it's "blowing hard".

THINK BOIUT IT?

Why think about it? When you can just talk out of your rear. My point was that CO, SH and LA are considered the coaching staffs with championships and seniority in this watered down SGV. Bogan, Farrar and Gano staffs also have continuity which Damien and BA do not. Damien's lower level staffs are a joke and BA's are seasoned professionals, Canales, Spooner ect.That was my point. Yet DHS and BA "eat them for lunch" Them being CO, SH, LA! Was that difficult to understand.

CO, LA and SH could not compete with Amat except in the rare "up" year. Damien with their coaches also school CO, LA and anyone else in this water down SGV. Why the hate? It's the facts. Ask CO what kind of beating they took at Damien and where did they end up. Oh yeah a Championship game with a new QB. How's THAT for watered down. Changing QBs in midseason is a compliment to Farrar and Co. but that further's my point. This Valley is watered down.

Look Amat is .500 over the past 4 years just like Damien and yet both teams dominate the SGV. LA played Damien tough last year and won but the year before with Chapelle they were run off the field. BA kicks the tar off the Spartans 9 out of 10 times. That tells me you didn't read it well or you didn't WANT to read it correctly. Either way get it together. It's early in the season.

ARAM YOU TALK ABOUT DAMIEN NOT HAVING SPEED NEXT SEASON. THATS A JOKE! AND YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO TRACK SEASON THIS YEAR IN THE SIERRA LEAGUE. SOPHOMORE RECEIVER TAYLOR HERRERA, WHO STARTED LAST SEASON FOR THE SPARTANS, WON THE SIERRA LEAGUE FOR THE 100 METERS, AND IS COMPETING THIS SATURDAY IN CIF FINALS. SO BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT DAMIEN NOT HAVING SPEED YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT THE LOCAL TRACK AND FIELD ATHLETES!!

P.S. YOU SHOULD REALLY COME SEE THIS KID RUN SATURDAY IN CERRITOS.

Comment:

Cliche? Maybe. Corny? Maybe.

In all seriousness, I say to all those that love there school.

"Cant we all just get along"

I mean "A house divided, cannot stand"

Think about it!

Oh come on now Mean Machine...........

A Blowhard! I mean really.

Late!

Mike the Clone

Anthony Drake is at South Hills right now. He played guard on the basketball team. I think he had an injury to his wrist, or something. Anyway, I believe he was at D-Ranch as frosh or a soph and this is his first or second year at SH. Supposedly, he's going to be a very good running back. Not overly big, but very explosive and quick.

ARAM,

WHO'S ANTHONY DRAKE FROM SH?
DID HE PLAY FOR SH LAST SEASON?

DID HE PLAY FOR DIAMOND RANCH?
DID HE START AT DIAMOND RANCH? VARSITY?

WTF,

WTF are you reading or talking about...Being from Amat, a Alumni student athlete from Amat and now parent of a Amat student our roots go deep into that school more then you can imagine or comprehend and the bottom line is speaking the truth is and having a opinion is what freedom of speech is all about..let me guess with a name like WTF you probably never taken a government class or most likely did not graduate or attend college...I can read into a uneducated person when I hear one.......I have the utmost respect for the Amat Sports programs but do find it in disarray at times but the teams march on and are supported by Boosters like myself..nothing is a 100% in life but death and taxes and Amat is no exception, we have our fair share of problems like all HS..but because we are Amat we as Alumni and Boosters cannot speak our mind?...Verti has that one year at Amat and I like everyone want a playoff shot and am hoping the 1 year exp. of coaching Amat football has taught him allot and he takes us to the promise land..He has made changes with coaches and that is what we were screaming for last year after the team broke down and did not make a playoff appearence...He is listening and if you, WTF, cannot take a Alumni's constructive Criticism then you have a problem...It is idiots like you that make Amat and its alumni, parents and student body look bad here.......take a hike dude you are way off base.

WTF?

From previous posts, it sounds like MATMTWTBAG is an alumnus. My guess is bluorca and john are, as am I. That would make your guess null and void. But it was a good effort, although I am slightly insulted.

You rag on MAT... for berating and insulting people, but then you make comments on the to AD's.

You see, you care also. We all do, and want everyone that wnats to work hard at restoring the glory to have the chance to do that. Administration (starting with Msgr Carroll) seems to be making that difficult on the coaches. Because of that, we are losing good coaches and scaring other coaches away from coming

but you are right ...it will be again someday. hopefully sooner rather than later.

tnkaboutit, Mike Smith was the QB on the '92 CIF Team and Brian Russell was the QB for the '95 CIF Team. I'm still trying to find out which one you think was great??? lol Smith was average, but good for that team. Russell was the same. No great numbers for either of them, they just clocked in everyday and got the job done. They also had a great supporting cast around them.

Nooooo, I'm not sarcastic...right?

Comment:

Coaching evaluation:

Rebuttle DWP: Some people have no clue what makes a coach a great coach? A great staff a great staff. They might just base it on the head coach, but they dont take a real good look at the coaching staff as whole. DWP makes a statement GUESSING that the best staff in the SGV is CO, LA, and SH but their are no reasons for that statement, rather, they are just guesses, an opinion without reason or sound argument. Then you bash Bishop Amat and Damien stating you could eat them for lunch. Well, what are their staffs credentials. Dont get me wrong CO, LA and SH have great staffs, but are they the best? If so, what makes them the best? They win championships I'll give them that. Oh, they play in a hard division.

Wait its my fault I forgot. If memory serves me correctly didn't BA play a loaded CO team a couple of years ago. Wasn't CO supposed to win, I mean they had like how many D-1 athletes, they should of won. Wait, BA shut them out. My fault, the following year a loaded CO team was supposed to beat a crappy team like BA with their horrible staff. Oh! Wait a minute Amat won again. You're right Amat staff sucks, they dont have a Coach thats been their for years, like SH (Bogan) LA (Gano) or CO (Farrar), but they just beat teams that are supposed to have better talent in the Valley, but the staff sucks, right? I mean no disrepect to these any of the SGV coaches cause I believe they all work hard and want the best for their players. SH, LA, and CO great programs and have good coaching, but to bash on BA and DAMIEN without any reasoning jsut says a lot of what we know about football.

SGV lets win!

MATMTWTBAG

You're right on Spoon.

It's a miracle and I'm suprised that you actually went through a complete posting without berating or insulting someone.

You say you're loyal Amat..... WRONG, you're part of what's wrong with Amat. What do you know? Did you even go to Amat? There are alot of long time followers/supporters/alumni of the school, that take pride in what Amat is.

You constantly berate, insult and talk very badly about some of those same people that helped make Amat what it was/is and will be again someday.

If you ACTUALLY went to Amat, reality is that you were probably a nobody who didn't like any of the student/athletes that were there and you were a very lonely and envious person. If you did play, then you were THAT guy! THAT guy that was there for THEM and only THEM.

You really need a reality check and need to get a life. Putting down and insulting in one of these Blogs, where no accountability is held, is weak.

You're probably thinking, then what the hell are you doing? Yes, you're right... but someone needs to tell you that you're embarrassing to the ENTIRE AMAT Family!!

Hell, who knows you probably are MANZO, or maybe his ball-less croonie, Canales....(JoeAmat??) Hiding under that name... Who knows!

You need someone to take you to the woodshed, and give you a good one!

Clam up and let Verti have a chance....

I am the ORIGINAL Bleeds Blue and Gold, accept no substitutions.

Heard that Amat has a transfer kid who came in from Eagle Rock trying out for QB. Supposed to have a rifle arm, time will tell.

McBride is a one way player due to his medical condition. Los Altos coaches should know that they can't use him on both sides of the ball.

Laid Lad, I'll see your spring ball practice today and tell you what I think. Maybe you'll surprise everyone. I think that's possible. Damien did it ast year and maybe this is the Year of the Tartan. Who knows. I was just giving you a hard time. All in fun.

The Sierra League is owned by Chino Hills. Basketball, Baseball, Football. That's a great program in the making. Coach P is a master at elevating talent that wasn't there. Monger is gone but Chino will be back. Morrison is the luckiest man alive. Ayala is on the come. Diamond Bar is my sleeper pick. I'll see them all and give you a what's up.

As far as the comments about the lack of "focus" at Glendora. What would your team have accomplished if Edmonds hadn't decided to play footbal for what 1 seeason. I'll tell you. Not much. If GHS decided to give Mike the Clone a job you guys might win league undefeated. Line play wins Championships and he knows line play.

MIke the Clone is a blowhard and a pain in the rear sometimes but he does have one thing right. Pasy's pooch kickoffs are a mystery. That does not make any sense. Starting the game at the 35 everytime means the other team increased it's options on offense. A team that starts off at the 5 or 12 yard line might have to deal with that for a whole quarter if they have average Special Teams.

Anyway most of the players will admit that before Coach P. Glendora football was a joke. So good luck to all the Spring Football players I'll give my opinion in a few days. I can not wait to see LA. They run an awesome practice. But the best of them all is Bishop Amat. These guys run practice like they are University bound.

Hey it's free!

-Mean Machine -,

whats wrong, your team didn't make it to the top ten? or maybe Aram has your team ranked exactly where they belong 7 or below! Every team last year had their standout player(s) and every team this season will have to replace those studs. Yea, Glendora probably had one of the best backs in the area and will need to find some new talent this season to try and replace those numbers. Lucky for Glendora, they need to replace only one standout. Other schools need to replace nearly entire squads! (i.e. Damien, Covina, etc..). Glendora will have a much faster, harder hitting and experienced team this year, while others in sierra will need a miracle just to meet their talent base of last season.

The haters will say what they want before the season even starts, but those of us who know this team and talent, know this will be an exciting team this year.

righteousness and Ha,

You guys are real twits. Your team lost everyone that matters and will be playing with a "one man show" this season and will most likely find themselves at the bottom of the sierra league.

Plaid Lad is absolutely correct with Glendora. Unless every team in the sierra league has greatly improved their offense this season (what a joke), it will be extremley tough to do well against this experienced D which had an incredible year.

Nice!

Caught a little of LA's first spring practice from a distance, know it's not much, but here's the early report card:

TE Ray Rodriguez is an animal! Probably put on 10-15 lbs of rip in the offseason. Might put on another 10-15 in the summer. If Gano gets ahold of some SD Charger films...Look out! Kid could easily average 100yrd and 2 TDs a game. (A+)

RB Bryce McBride is going to fit well on this team. Kid has speed, strength, work ethic and best of all smarts. He has the potential to be the best RB they've had there since.......(A)

O-Line...one word: Experience. Three returners and if you count Rodriguez at TE that's four. These kids, led by Longoria, are going to be able to open nice holes for McBride and that should be enough to make most teams bring 8 into the box opening up a mediocre passing attack. (B+)

WR/RB/All-Purpose Tony Seanez might be the fastest kid on the team...yes folks, even faster than McBride. His size could be a concern (5'6" with cleats on asphalt). He needs to touch the ball 8-12 times a game for LA to be successful...Think Reggie Bush. (B+)

QB Tillis...jury is still out. Athletic but can he throw the rock well enough to keep teams honest? Or will LA have to look elsewhere for their QB? Don't be suprised to see last year's Freshmen step up and be "good enough" for Gano. Howing's a WR now. If he's under center come September something's wrong. (C)

As for Webb...He was MIA. Can't wait to find out the real story here. Too many rumors to sort out. If LA does things right, they won't need him. They could certainly use him...but they won't NEED him. (F)

Defensively...LA has some serious holes to fill, namely Foss in the secondary, Lavea at D-End and Acosta at LB (Yes, those last two were both injured in LA's 14-7 loss to El Dorado...imagine if they were both playing...LA v. CO Final). McBride will help, but that may not be enough. Longoria will anchor the middle and Rodriguez will handle his end but they'll have a hard time keeping good offensive teams in check. (C+)

Overall Grade: (B)

Anyone want to fill us in on some other SGV squads?

AHHHHHH, all this Tartan Talk of Football and basketball reminds me that spring practice IS HERE and summer ball is just around the corner for these 2 big programs. Can't wait! Anxious for this year hoping for good things from the football squad. A lot of talent and experience returns on both sides of the ball with a good looking crop of youngsters coming up. It's early for sure, but it'll be fun to see what they start doin with all the pieces...especially on O. The D won't have too many surprises with so many top players coming back in Niles, Kovar, Beckwith, Horn, & Young (let's call them "The Firm"); also others who started at times and played well like Nichols, Mraz, Reg. Young & Bowdry. Strong and more athletic than some of you think. As for hoops, I hear LeDuc is ramping things up this summer with the team playing well over 50 games! Looking forward to watching a few of those on Mon. & Wed. nights at the gym. They are young inside but have some talented guards back in Beckwith (that safety's going to be busy this summer), Brothers and of course Tiger-Cortes who may be the best player in the valley.

Response to: Anymouse & B-ballfan
yup! I agree.

Plaid Lad

What's that about coming to see the basketball trophy case. It must be nice to have Tracy, Cameron and Casey play bball at your school. Not to mention all of the inter-district players over the last 8-10 years. Not everybody recruits errr, offers a better academic opportunity.

By the way I do feel Tartan Football will be solid this season.

Plaid Lad,

Glendora Basketball is traditionally head and shoulders above any program locally, anyone who doubts that is just baiting the Glendora supporters...

This is what everyone does to the guys from Amat, bait the hook and they bite...

Ignore the fishermen...

AnyMouse...

I got a feeling West Covina will be in that top ten by the end of the year Aram.

yah san dimas should be at least number 10 but northview should be at least 5 or 6. that qb down there oscar robles killed us with his arm but our san dimas boys put a beating on him. robles and all his junior class will be great. im sorry i use to go to san dimas but nv got this wrapped up for the next 2 years.

I LOVE U SAINTS SORRY

Response to: DWP (Dumb Wananbe Players)

You Damien dudes crack me up. Guess I hit a sore spot when Larson was mentioned. Hey, don't agree with me then go ask some of your own alum...maybe that will set you straight! As for B-Ball being weak in G-town...come and see our tropy case..Leduc doesn't charge for looky-loos like you.

your 10 looks good aram...

SH does have a good returning junior class and a pretty good sophmore class to match...I am looking foward to see how good they really are!!! hahahaha "Charter Oak woke up the sleeping giant" they shure did...remember the 2005 season, after the loss to WEST COVINA in the CIF CHAMPIONSHIPS in 2004! i think this team will handle the CO loss the same way...LOOK OUT FOR SOUTH HILLS!!! THAT TEAMS GONNA BE SCARY

i think CO is gonna have some trouble on offense with no returning O-LINE and were gonna have to see about them duo running backs you talk about, they sound a little overrated...but then again if they dont get that line going there overall running and passing game will struggle. But that defense has 10 starters back, CO has some potential on D...

LA has a good squad with another good running back, but i fear that this team will end up one dimentional with no passing game. LA has some guys that can catch and run with anybody but there in for a long season if they dont get that QB to step up this season...

good lucky to all SGV TEAMS

I agree that the QB situation at Amat is up in the air and right now no one knows who will come out as the starter. Replacing Robles is a tough a job I did not say Carrillo because he just did not get the job done last year he was too erratic....Amat does have lots of the puzzle pieces in place and iof they emerge with a QB that is decent they could be going places. I am glad coach Spoon got brought up he could really help as he is going to be coaching the Defensive ends........The team will hopefully do it's talking on the field this year and the coaches now having that one year of Experience with bring this team to another level...Yes looking past Los Osos for the showdown game with Oluth is not wise. One at a time..........wonder if the Oluth game will be televised on Fox Sports Net?

I got it tnkaboutit & Joe Amat.

My bad. I did not see the previous post or I would have red it sarcastically how it was supposed to be read. i stand corrected.

Another list. How fun.

Heh. You like to provoke Amat fans with your top 10's.

On the QB issue: I almost wish it was that simple. But Garey had a couple D1 athletes at QB in past years during 1-9 and 2-8 seasons... obviously a team needs something to enable their great QB as well.

I think the better point is that in today's QB-centric game, there are few coaches left with expertise in the more "classic" offenses (not to mention the difficulty in selling the kids on that kind of system). Sure, you get a few loonies running the Markham double wing (which might actually carry more titles if someone who ran that offense actually paired it with a real defense), but pretty much everyone else is running systems that -require- a top of the line QB.

Too bad, it might be funny to see someone try to revive the single wing. There are a number of prominent coaches out there who would have no clue how to defense it, anyway.

On to the list (well, the top 4, anyway):

As I said, Amat's almost always going to be a controversy, mainly because you judge them in another context than all the other teams.

Of the rest, South Hills and Charter Oak have the most returning talent. You could probably just as easily reverse their ratings, but 1-2 is probably right for them.

Charter Oak has the most returning experience (which is often critically underrated). They lost Johnson, but I've heard a number of coaches who were more impressed with the other guy anyway. However, they can't afford to be complacent... many of their victories last year were by very slim margins, and sometimes the only sure way to beat bad luck is to be able to put a lot of points on the board.

South Hills probably has the best up-and-coming talent, with an impressive returning cast as well. Their edge, as Aram pointed out, is the number of kids on last year's team who -remember-. When dealing with 16-17 year old kids, any motivational hold you have on them is a big deal.

Hmmmm... I also note that after that whole QB argument, you've got 2 teams with question marks at QB rated 3rd and 4th.

Finally, Los Altos. Are they going to be all that? I get as many inside rumors as anyone, and I'm not sure anyone there really knows what they have next season.

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"... the Conqs do somehow land a transfer or coach Greg Gano develops a competent passer from what he's currently working with."

Howing is already competent, though not flashy. Tillis -is- a genuine athlete (haven't seen him throw yet). And the guy(s) on the freshman team showed potential. The only thing really lacking here is experience...

"TE/DE Ray Rodriguez and OL/DL Nick Longoria are a great pair to build the core of the offense and defense around."

Linemen. (and a tight end). Josh Contreras also developed into quite an effective guard on the offensive side, and Leo Maggillon should move back to center. LA needs to find some tackles on O. They need another defensive end on D.

"LBs Richard Maciel and Marc Felix are a nice tandem in DC Lee Fair's scheme."

Maciel has put on a lot of weight in the offseason... it's possible he's now a DL. Assuming he's eligible. The other LB and SS positions are open.

"The Conqs have to be able to get the ball to Rodriguez and WR Tony Seanez. The running game is set with Bryce McBride, who I rate as the top RB in the area."

McBride's wingman in the backfield should be Jeff Martinez, a tough "short" runner (LA seems to have a surplus of these) who has seen Varsity time since his sophmore season. Felix can also carry. Howing (if he's not the QB) should man the other WR.

"I'd like this team even more if the Donte Webb situation were more clear."

I hear the kid needs to hit the books or he won't be playing anywhere next season. I hope it works out for him.

Just for clarification......

"all those spoiled kids (wannabe OC surfer dudes) just got to many hot honnies on the brain."

DWP,I have never said anything like that about any of the "bagpiper" kids:

NEVER!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Mike The Clone

I understand your concerns and agree with you. The best thing you have is defense, the BIG questions will be QB,RB and kicking game issues.

Be thankful Aram thinks your a #5 team, I just don't see it!

Laid Lad actually Bonita's Chavez pulled that trick off four at least 7 games last year.

Wrong again. You sure you played football? What position? Varsity? I know you never had the ball in your hands.

Sorry laid Lad. When did Glendora have this great team I hear about? Last year Edmonds was a one man show on offense. Yes there were other players but playing without Edmonds is like the Colts playing without Manning.

As far as the basketball reference that just highlights the lack of skilled athletes at your school. Sorry dude but the truth hurts . I seen your football , basketball and baseball teams and they are average at best. Quit bashing the coaches. The players aren't as good as they used to be. Or maybe Mike the Clone has it right and all those spoiled kids (wannabe OC surfer dudes) just got to many hot honnies on the brain. Either way see you at Citrus.

Aram you're more right than wrong. Mission Viego and Hart have exceptional passing "games" because they have exceptional QB "training" year round coupled with outstanding passing "philoshophies". The size that Damien has year in and year out with similar coaching and Damien is that powerhouse. But that won't ever happen with the way business is done in the Valley.

Mendrun, Lucero, Travis, Herrera and Harper were all gifted enough to light up the sky but lost 3 games they should have never lost. (1 close, 1 blowout and 1 outcoached). Say what you will but great coaching in the Valley is spread out. Hear Rollinson is going to retire. Any chance Rollinson gets a bucketfull of $$$$$ from Damien money bags----hell freezes over first!

Great points though. I liked your Top Ten analysis because it showed the weakness of the valley more than its non existent strenghts. Where is the best coaching staff in the SGV Top to Bottom,,,may guess either CO, LA or SH and that makes my point. Damien and Bishop Amat eat them for lunch much less Chino Hills and Canyon Country.

Aram..Toshay on your QB comments. But having said that...what SGV team are you referring too? LB Poly might be an abberation in comparison to most local teams. No doubt an average team could perform better with a veteran QB who can pass and run.. On the other hand, the successful teams such as MV not only displays quality QB talents but also Offensive line strengths and successes. I don't think you can come up with a solid QB in SGV that created a one man show without a great supporting cast. Hence, that makes that type of isolated QB average on any given friday.

Aram

I would agree a Qb is an important position in order to win it all. The Colts are a good example of that in the Super Bowl. But having a well balance team with good QB and RB is important too!

With that said and if QB spot was the criteria for early rankings, then Glendora is no way #5 or Damien #7. Not proven QB's at all!

There will be other surprises in the valley that are not on this list. Other teams have way better overall team talent in key positions.

Joe Amat let me correct a couple of things...First a South Hills Student could not move into Northveiws area and go to Covina and be eligible right away (if they were a in coming freshmen then yes). If that same south hills student lets say is a sophmore and moves into northviews area and choses to attend covina he/she is atuomatically in-eligible for one year of varisty sports.

There is only Choice for incoming freshmen.

You are right and saying the only legit way of transfering after you are already in high school is to move then you are eligible right away. But you cannot move away from school A into school B area and then decide to go to school C. You either have to attend school B or stay at school A

At "Bagpiper U" Kaluz will be just fine if they just stick with him.... that’s the key.

If the offense gets half a chance to sync up with one QB I like our chances.

Now the kicking game, that's a whole other ball game. We can't keep expecting to give the ball to everyone on the thirty every time then ask the D to hold. Throw in some missed PAT's/field goals and that will just kill us.

(Someone mentioned the kicker from Damien; I still say he kicked a frecking rocket for a field goal against us that I swear is still in orbit.)

Defense...well, we should be fine.

If we come with a game plan and have our act together on game day, just maybe you can persuade me that this team is a top two finisher. But a lot of hard work lies ahead for that to happen. My last three years of past experience here at “Bagpiper U” has left me with a lot of question marks and uncertainty going into my final year. You just never know what’s going to happen come game day.

It should be interesting!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Mr Vike

Here goes Northview again, running their mouth before pads!

Didn't you guys run your mouth early last year and finish behind Covina, SD, and BP.

Keep talking and the good teams will quitely take care of business

Aram..liked the top ten for 2007 football season.
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Responding to bloggers: "Righteousness and Ha"

Based on your glib response to my opinion of the up-coming 2007 GHS FTB season, I can tell that you both have little football knowledge. The reason that I blog and back Baggpiper U is because I CAN. It's called freedom of speech nitwits! You can blog all the smack in the world because every team throughout Southern Cal looks great in softies...the real test will be when we all pad-up. Don't suppose either of you "soap-on-a-ropes" ever rocked socks or hammer someone so hard you witnessed a air bubble blow out your oppenents nose as they flat-lined on the grassy side lines trying to remember what freaken day it was....man, that's football at it best and not the crap you blog about.

605east has been throwing these accusations out here and on Murray's blog as well. Sounds like someone is a little bitter.

Plaid Lad and DWP,

As I stated at the top of this thread, winning can be achieved without a good QB, but very few coaching staffs are good enough to make it happen.

In my opinion, most of the successful teams these days i.e. Mission Viejo, Hart and so on, have good QB play in common. Conversely, LB Poly hasn't had a good QB recently and thus has been vulnerable despite have better talent than anybody at most other positions.

Any style can have success in football, but I just think that the EASIEST way to having a good team, especially in the SGV, is having a good QB. And for every one team you can show me that had good results with average to below average QB play, I can show you 10 that would've had great years if only they had a competent QB.

Another response to "mean machine"
Where does your team stand in Aram's top ten? Come-on loser post some more of your inabilities and lack of football knowledge.

We should have a "FAQ/Common Misconceptions/Urban Legends" link on this blog for all of those struggling with the transfer/"out of area" stuff.

There is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between residential requirements for Public or Private schools, as far as the CIF is concerened. And religious affiliation is not relevant at all. In California we have School Choice that results in this Open Enrollment policy. Essentially it was Gov Pete Wilson throwing voters a bone to counteract the proposed voucher system that the Teachers Unions was spending millions of our dollars to fight.

Here goes:

ANY freshman can go to ANY school in CIF, PUBLIC or PRIVATE, and be residentially eligible IMMEDIATELY if that school accepts him/her.
and
ANY student can transfer to ANY other school that accepts him/her and be residentially eligible, providing that they have a legitimate change of address OUT OF the attendance area that they are presently in.
Example: A South Hills athlete could move to the Northview area and go to Covina. Immediately!

In addressing the "recruiting practices" that "Huh?" mentions, CIF does not even mention *recruiting*. They call it "Undue Influence" and there has to be evidence that the school actually OFFERED something to unduely encourage their enrollment. The object is to assure that the student athlete is making a free and unpressured choice of his or her high school.

Example: Player runs into another parent/booster at a travel/club game, camp or combine and Booster says, "Our school is great. Your son would really fit in with our team. We really need help at (QB, RB, OL, etc). You'd really like Coach so&so, etc etc" CIF would NOT find taht to be an example of recruiting. That happens EVERYWHERE that is any good and CIF will not ever be able to restrict that freedom of speech (see the Brentwood Academy Tenessee law suit on the same thing - remember from a long time ago, "Follow the money")

HOWEVER, Coach at School A talks to Parent of School B and talks about arranging for financial assistance, transportation, promises starting positions, etc, etc...THAT would be UNDUE INFLUENCE.

Now use those guidelines to make your accusations...and then try to prove that.

Response to: "mean machine"
What in the hell does basketball have to do with football?

ARAM...I believe that the prospects of having a veteran QB could make or break a season for most teams. I've often seen QB's that were less qualified but managed not to hurt thier teams chances at winning even the big ones. The more experienced the QB...the more success the team has at creating a passing game. For less qualified QB's...the team is forced to run and create diversions. For these reasons, I'll take an average experienced QB with an average athletic supporting crew any day of the week over a team that only possesses a quality QB that can pass the ball. The simple reality is that most teams that win are often found to be well balanced and not overly stacked at one position.

Plaid Lad ...that snot bubble image is tired and NEVER happened in your life or with any hit you ever made.

Stop looking at videos. Glendora is going to be what it is 6-4, 4-6, 5-5 or bust out for 7-3. Wow strike up the band. Without Edmonds life will be tough. I expect either Ayala or Diamond Bar to beat you guys this year if not both. Aram's right about no speed and no athletism. Just look at the basketball team.

SD has no shot at Northview this year!! Were you even at the game last year?? NV can do anything at anytime to Sh** Dimas!!! Look for NV to run the table.

After looking at the Top Ten would most still argue that the SGV is not watered down?

No dominatant RB and no dominant QB in all the valley. NO dominant "team" in the Valley. The best receiver? The best LB? The best Lineman in the valley is either Rabe or Austin? Cody and Harwell must be chuckling.

There are very good speed guys at DB/WR but the truth is the only team to get to a championship game got smoked by Damien who got smoked by IE 6-4 team Temescal Canyon.

The SGV is not watered down if they could compete with these teams:

Temescal Canyon
Canyon Country
Los Alomitos
Hart
Carson
Notre Dame
Loyola
Norco
Mater Dei

Aram how is it that Norco wins without a QB. Systems are the "difference maker" in high school football. Great article in the Daily Bulletin about Fontana and Eishenhower coached by Dick Bruich and Tom Hoak respectively.

Maybe Blu and Joe Amat could give some background on the 1989 Fontana team and the 1993 Eisenhower team.

Great read.

Aram..liked the top ten for 2007 football season.
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Responding to bloggers: "Righteousness and Ha"

Based on your glibe response to my opinion of the up-coming 2007 GHS FTB season, I can tell that you both have little football knowledge. The reason that I blog and back Baggpiper U is because I CAN. It's called freedom of speech knitwits! You can blog all the smack in the world because every team throughout Southern Cal looks great in softies...the real test will be when we all pad-up. Don't suppose either of you "soap-on-a-ropes" ever rocked socks or hammer someone so hard you witnessed a air bubble blow out your oppenents nose as they flat-lined on the grassy side lines trying to remember what freaken day it was....man, that's football at it best and not the crap you blog about.

How do you look into the recruiting practices of a religious school? It's not like they have to abide by any of the "area" rules that the public schools have to.

Hey Diamond Ranch, welcome to the real world. Now get over it.

605east,

It would be worthy if we knew what position you were talking about from wilson. QB? RB? WR? K? P?

CIF has received formal complaints into the recruiting practices of Saint Paul HS. Expext an official investigation and severe punishment on the players, coaching staff and school if some of the accusations are true. Isn't coach Ocviedo (Wilson an Alumnus of SP)? Where does he stand on losing one of his young talents? The DR coach might play the political game, but he was not happy with his player leaving. Expect a huge investigation! This is coming from a direct source in the offices. This is news worthy! It is great to have football back!

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03Lancer:

Before you say anything again, read what Joe Amat said about my comments he's on the same page. Think about what I just wrote earlier and re-read it and then you'll understand where my stance truly is on this.

BTW- Can someone name the great Amat QB's of the 90's that won CIF?

I agree. Who was gatorade player of the year? Jimmy Clausen? No, Marc Tyler. A QB is important, but without a RB, especially in the latter part of the season or playooffs, a team is limited in HS football.

I believe that the running back position is still the most important position in high school football but if you want to win in the playoffs and a championship you have to have a QB and at least look like you can throw the ball. The weaker the competition the more important the RB becomes and less important the QB becomes. Does anybody agree with that?

cmon Aram,

don't you fold 'em and deliver 'em to!

My Trib was late this morning. Whats up !:?)

03lancer,

read "tnkabouti" again and you'll get the extreme sarcasm through out his post.

He's with you on this one.

You guys might be shocked to hear this, but I only write the stories and coordinate coverage. I don't take the pictures and build the Web site (beside this blog). Sorry the prep sites weren't updated. I was looking forward to reading them, too.

I saw the same thing aram, what is going on over there.

No updates on weekends, LA Times was fine, come on.

HEY ARAM, WHAT'S THE DEAL, YOU GUYS CAN'T UPDATE YOUR PREP SECTIONS ANYMORE. I LOOKED OVER THE WEEKEND AND NOTHING, YOU GUYS SUCK.

No San Dimas on the top 10. I thought everyone kept talking about how great they're gonna be. That game vs. Northview is gonna be a great one!

As Aram said in a previous blog, the spring top ten really means nothing. We can all debate this until the season starts, but until we know how the teams shake up with pads on we will not know the true colors of each team. As for right now I think Aram has a point to say that Amat should be ranked # 4 in the valley going into spring because of lack of QB. That has been the position that Amat has lacked for years, and yes even the Robles year cause I hat to say it, but the guy wasnt that good. He had all the tools, but took a step backward his senior year in my opinion. Amat is a big time QB away from having a 10-0, 9-1, or 8-2 season. Until that happens amat supporters will be their biggest skeptics, but we support them all the way.

As for tnkaboutit's comment about amats schedule:

"No wonder a team like Bishop Amat is ranked fourth, cause their schedule is a bunch a cream puffs."

Ummm..lets see...Los Osos, OLU, Hart, Rancho, Carson, St Paul, Alemany, Crespi, SO ND, Loyola

CO does not = OLU not even close
SO ND does not = LA....way way off
South Hills and is way off par with LBP not even in the same zip code.

I guess you have ever seen Div I play before because no offense to SH, LA, and CO they are not equivalent to those teams above. There is a different speed of the game and differnt talent pool in DI or Pac 5 whatever you want to call it. Come on man get with the program. All of us Amat supporters can live with all the haters out there and what they have to say about Amat, but when you go and make statements like that you just make yourself look stupid and those programs look silly at the same time. Stop embarassing yourself and others.

All League 1st teamer Shelton Miles from Montclair (safety/Running Back) returned to Diamond Ranch HS. Shelton started with Terrance Dennis (Fresno State) as a 10 grader and played a significant amount of time at RB. He will be the next in the line of safeties who will move onto the next level from DR (Titus Jackson Oregon) in the last three seasons. Brian Spirlin actually started at tailback last year until injuries. His dad is the girls basketball coach, so expect him to stay. Rumor is, Aubrey Haynes has been spotted on DR's campus a lot in the last few weeks. Possible come back?

COMMENT:

Did we really think about this one? I mean this is really the SGV Top 10. Wow! That's one I need to really soak in my mind. I guess their is not a lot of disparity with these teams, they all play tough schedules, right? I mean playing Charter Oak is equivalent to OLU and Los Altos is right on with Notre Dame and South Hills is on par with Long Beach Poly. They really match up well against these teams. The speed and pace of the game are completely a like. They all hit the same, they all are very physical with one another. No wonder a team like Bishop Amat is ranked fourth, cause their schedule is a bunch a cream puffs. Yeah, we all know who the quarterback of the Ravens that guy Trent Dilfer was great in engineering a explosive offense that scored 55 points to win the super bowl. We know Tampa Bay's defense was horrible when the they beat the Raiders that year. If we base winning on a quarterback, I guess we really dont need a team. Dont get me wrong I believe QB is key, but their are lot of x-factors that determine whether a team is great or not. Maybe we should really think about it before anything is really said. But what the heck we all have our opinion and this is just a blog, right?

Aram

Your top ten looks to be right on the money with all of key players moving on. Damien will have a different look this year. They will have a bigger and better OL then last year. They also have a much stronger running game with McMahon and Williams. I hear 6'6" 290 Rabe will be at TE as well. I think that the Def will be better then You think. The Def. will be Faster than last year with more experince then you think. CB/LB will be the key.The D-line with Rabe and Scharrer as book ends will be tough and there are four or five others that will take care of the middle. Special teams Last year cost them if not one but maybe two of there loses on KO return. As for there Kicking game they will have one of if not the best in the valley with Miller. This kid is a Three year starter with a solid leg. As far as speed on the offense McMahon and Herrera both with 4.5 speed and don't let Willams size fool you either this kid can fly. And as you said Pertusati has good speed as well. The key to their success will be to stay healthy and to take care of three of your top teams ahead of them in your top 10.

Right on Aram!

South Hills and CO are going to be close contenders this season to wrap up league.

Glendora will have the best season in many years. Defense will be very scary with awesome, hard hitting experienced studs in EVERY position. It will be hard, if not impossible, to score against this D. Don't under estimate the offense. Your right on with the strong O line and QB Kaluzny will be an exciting player to watch. This kid can run, pass and scramble. They will easly come on top in Sierra this season.

Los Altos is a very strong force and should never be under estimated. Strong coaching and tradition will keep this team a contender year after year. They really only need to concentrate in the QB position (important as it is) the remaining core is in place. They will do this fine.

You started out talking about the importance of the QB position, then leftout one of the best returning QB in the SGV in SEM' Garay. Last year, the 6'3" sophomore showed the MV League his strong arm with over 2,000 passing. What gives? Arroyo is good, but can't match Garay's talent.

What is up with Baldwin Park's stadium? Drove past the stadium last week and MAJOR CONSTRUCTION is going on. Will the new stadium be ready for the new season?