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I like this much better.

Congrats to Bishop Amat's Maverick Olivares and Charter Oak's Tom Quinley on two excellent seasons that led directly to two CIF championships. Congrats to the rest of the team and all the players in the SGV for putting on a wonderful show this season.

FIRST TEAM
Pitcher: Maverick Olivares, Bishop Amat
Pitcher: Tyler Garkow, Charter Oak
Catcher: Nick Field, West Covina
Infield: R.J. Arnold, Northview
Infield: Dimitri De La Fuente, South Hills
Infield: Jordan Fox, Bishop Amat
Infield: Gary Brown, Diamond Bar
Outfield: Chris Eusebio, Bishop Amat
Outfield: Tyler Pill, Covina
Outfield: Nick Torres, Charter Oak
Utility: Kevin Ponzo, San Dimas

SECOND TEAM
Pitcher: Robert Rodriguez, Northview
Pitcher: Andrew Melchor, Nogales
Catcher: Jake Bailey, Charter Oak
Infield: Rich Pedroza, Northview
Infield: Andrew Mistone, Bishop Amat
Infield: Tommy Reyes, Bishop Amat
Infield: JC Torres, Charter Oak
Outfield: Keith Nyeholt, Charter Oak
Outfield: Will Davis, Northview
Outfield: Jordan Leyland, San Dimas
Utility: Mark Larini, Arroyo


196 Comments

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Baseball dad said:

In the Glendora Pony 13U tournment, how is it that the Charter Oak (Patriots) travel ball team gets to play with teams made of All Stars from the city they played at? Arcadia, Glendora, West Covina, Azusa, Sierra Madre all played in their league but Charter Oak played in a Travel Ball League. It Just doesnt seem fair.

Anonymous said:

Dan is a great guy but you can have Sioscia, Torres and Lasorda next to Smith and he will still not listen to them.

Lancer Lover said:

Here's one,
Rumor mill has it that Smith (SH) has asked Dan Roddy to help him. I know that he is on the football staff, this would be a very good move. He is a very good coach who is well liked by all of us over here at Bishop Amat and we miss him! He taught our kids alot, it's to bad our coach we have now didn't see it.
South Hills, good hire!

Anonymous said:

I AGREE - STICK AROUND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND CHECK OUT WHAT RJ CAN DO... HE WILL BE "ONE 2 WATCH" GET EM VIKES.

Anonymous said:

Reyes is not only as smooth as they come at shortstop,but he can flat out hit. Anyone who has really watched these two kids play would tell you Reyes is without a doubt better.

Anonymous said:

i agree with "my picks". I'd pick Reyes over Arnold anyday.

no comprende said:

where did the rest of our replies go????? there was well over 200... odd very odd

go NV said:

I totally agree, NV did not play bad against Bonita but they were flat and you got to get up for those big games man. That is a helluva team though that can stay that close to Bonita (a good team) and at the end get the W ! Usually a young, inexperienced team does not win those games, the close games are tough for the young guys but not NV. That team just did not quit - all season. Great job. This league is so tough and so many great players on these teams. Its pretty awesome.

Anonymous said:

I would like to call out NVGUY at 3:04 6-23, that is not a nv guy and i do not know any of the players that would think or say a comment like the one "nv guy" did. Not one player would think their team choked or tht murph sucks, they are a TEAM win or lose and would NOT make those comments. I will say another thing about that game against Bonita, both teams made defensive plays like there was no tomorrow, it was clear they BOTH wanted to win and we, the fans, witnessed a great game with an incredible ending - but NOT lucky.

VikesSideBySide said:

Let's not pit R. Rod and RJ towards each other...Each was equally responsible for NV's success this year. RJ hit over .400 with 38 hits as a sophomore...He hit Pill, Ponzo, and McKiernan hard this year. That kid deserved what he got and was arguably the most cluth hitter in the valley. He had so many game winning hits,it was sick. R. Rod was slighted without a doubt. The two kids are good friends and loved each other's success. As for Bonita-Northview game, RJ's 3 run bomb was a surprise, but why luck? NV outplayed COvina in a game that they lost 3-2 (gave up all Covina runs in the first), but beating them most of the game doesn't work in baseball. Bonita did not have 12 hits that day. Bonita played better for 6 innings sure, but NV stayed close (that's a credit to them when not their best day) and got some late inning heroics. We were not just good, we were damn good this year and hopefully next year, we're a step better.

summerheat said:

Garkow is an average to good pitcher playing for a team that was super hot, Rod was a better pitcher. yes RJ hit a winning HR but so did Rod.

So who was the most valuable player in NV, of course Rod

Anonymous said:

Good post NV Fan. Let's make this a postive blog for the kids & not a negative one.

Great job also Charter Oak. Tommy Q. you deserved it!!!

NV guy said:

I'm a NV guy & I'll even admit that anyone who saw our game against Bonita knows we got lucky. Bonita outplayed us bigtime. If they would got some clutch hits or not have guys make dumb baserunning mistakes like being thrown out at home on pass balls it would not have been close.

Rodriques did not have his best stuff that day & NV probably was outhit about 12-4 (not sure). Without the last inning walk, hit batter & clutch HR by RJ our season would have been over in the 2nd round. Then everyone would have come on this blog to say how we choked & that Murph sucked.

Give the season a rest guys. We were good but not great. Maybe well be better next year. Go Vikes & congrats to Charter Oak on winnig the championship.

Garkow fan said:

summerheat,

I think you have been under the sun too long. Let's not put down anyone on this team. If you watched the games you would see Garkow deserved it. 3-0 in the playoffs & only 1 unearned run in he championship at Dodger Stadium.

Granted, Rodriquez deserved it also. I say ALSO, not instead of someone else. Give props to he whole team.

summerheat said:

Garkow should have not made it in front of Rod, only reason he is there is because his team won cif, well there are plenty of players on the team who did not win cif.
RJ what are his numbers? can anyone please tell us. How do we know he is derseving?
Pill we know his numbers, he made it as a hitter, the leader of his team well deserved. Just like Robert he carried his team not RJ.
The point is you put the best players of the valley in the last year and Rob was better then Garkow and RJ

anonymous said:

to all u baseball fans,
u guys complain when we talk football during baseball season and now u are complaining about no baseball during football season! what hypocrits.

Texas said:

Aram gets a kick out of a passing league game...passing league games are a joke like he is. bring in a baseball guy.

BASEBALL FOREVER said:

hEY GUYS, I AM BURNT ON ALL THE FOOTBALL TALK. HOW ARE OUR LOCAL SUMMER LEAGUES LOOKING. NO GRAND WRITE-UPS LIKE THE "PASSING GAMES" BUT HEY THATS OK, IT IS THEIR MOMENT TO SHINE. I DON'T WANT TO GET ON THE WHOLE ARAM KICK AGAIN BUT IT SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH THAT ENTHUSIASM AND KNOWLEDGE WRITE ABOUT BASEBALL. I HAVE READ "FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS" MENTIONED A FEW TIMES - WELL WE DO HAVE BULL DURHAM AND LETS NEVER FORGET "THE BAD NEWS BEARS"

Anonymous said:

Murphy 1st.
Smith Last.

Good job Aram said:

Let's face it. Picking an all area team is very difficult. With the one exception of Rod being left off of 1st team, I think we pretty much all feel Aram did a good job. He got the right COY in coach Quinley & the right POY in Oliveres. Everyone on the list deserved it.
Maybe next year Aram could lobby for an extra pitcher if needed. Some rules are made to be broken.

Mike said:

Rational,

That was clutch!

I really liked this part:

"I want results, not alibi's. No excuses, no rationale, no blaming others. DO YOUR JOB!"

Hell you got me fired up!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Go R-Rod's Dad! said:

Wow, what a class statement you made regarding your son not being selected on the first team of this paper. I think anyone who led his team to the semifinals of D4 with a 9-0 record and an under 2 era and was three outs from Dodger Stadium and did it with seven underclassmen would obviously deserve a first team spot. I guess the sting would be less if we could get some kind of an explanation as to how/why he didn't make it or how many people make the selections and their rationale. You, however, stayed above the fray and didn't insult anyone's "education," or tell people to "get a life," or anything you'd expect from a teenager. Robert's season, stats and effect on his teammates, the program and coaches will never be forgotten and he was first team ALL-CIF, so obviously it calls the choosing of the team that much more in question. Thanks for being an example of taking the high road and showing your kid that fighting a mistake with hate, insults or profanity isn't the way for a respected young person to deal with it. He was slighted, no doubt......but no one who saw him play of followed his number's agrees with him not being selected and that should go a long way for your son. Good luck to him next year.

Q man said:

I'll take Coach Quinley first. He has done a lot for the youth of the city of Covina. He was a long time well respected & liked coach at Hollenbeck. He obviously knows his stuff will continue to get a lot ou of his players.

NV PARENT said:

i guess we here have been somewhat fortunate to be involved with murph and his staff who take pride in developing a baseball program. and have been very sucessful over the years in doing so. so my suggestion would be the obvious. viking pride baby.

Baseball Parent said:

I have sat back and watched the coach bashing all year and sort of looked past it.
I can't, after reading some of these issues regarding Glendora, sit quietly. Although I am not a fan of coach bashing, if a coach leaves practice to watch his kid, he isn't dedicated to the team he has a committment to. I know you want to see your son play, but if that's the case, you shouldn't coach while you want to see them play. I wish I could leave work everytime I wanted to see my son or daughter, but I'd be fired. This great parent excuse is BS. Its called being a hypocrit and not living up to your committment as a coach. Do the kids get to leave when they want to see something else? Worse yet, I saw that 14-33-1 record of three years in league and yet he still leaves practice? Wow, if my son's coach wasn't bright enough to realize a losing program needs stability, I'd want him gone too. I can agree/disagree with on the field decisions, but not hypocrisy. I'd take a 6-0 cif champion pitcher on my team any day, so I can't imagine that one coach Henley supporter needing to say Garkow wouldn't have been on of their better pitchers. At 5-10, I don't think you had a "better pitcher." Thank GOD we have Murphy....someone who wouldn't leave practice till it was done, someone who genuinely cares and gets along with his kids and brings out the best in our kids. No hypocrisy at Northview. Good luck Glendora.

rational thoughts from Glendora said:

An old coach at Glendora named Clint Harwick used to say I want results, not alibi's. No excuses, no rationale, no blaming others. DO YOUR JOB is what he's say and the program never finished lower than second place, let alone not make the playoffs or under 500. The two or so Henley supporters rip those who question his tactics or more importantly his winning or lack there of. If you question it, you're a little league coach who only coached so your son could play. It couldn't be because you disagree with his style of coaching, philosophy, personality and game time strategy. Someone said the Damien loss was a fluke. Apparently they don't know jack about sports because 10 runs in one inning is not a fluke. A coach not pulling a pitcher out, while holding a nine run lead is a fluke and/or a horrible lack in judgment. That is the ultimate sign that this guy isn't the sharpest tool when he can't make ONE decision to hold a nine run lead in extra innings. If its OK for Henley to miss practice to watch his son's team at Bonita, then it should be fine for the players to miss too if their brothers/sisters have games they want to watch. Should a coach be accountable for the cuts he makes and people he drives away from the game? Ask almost all former players and they want nothing to do with him. One of my son's friends who started for Glendora three years ago threw away his glove and bat the second after the season ended because Henley had drained the love of baseball out of him with his negative approach, mind games and the grudges he holds. I know on this blog its not supposed to be personal attacks, but this is "baseball related," issues so I think its fair game. I read somewhere said Garkow wouldn't have been one of the better pitchers on Glendora's staff. That's the mentality I am talking about. Instead of saying "wow, we really dropped the ball on this one," his two supporters rip Garkow's ability. I a 6-0 pitcher, who gives up just one unearned run at Dodger Stadium wouldn't be one of the better pitchers on a 5-10 team, you should really re-evaluate your mind set. At some point, you have to quit making excuses for Henley and think you know what, something isn't working when we're 14-33-1 over the past three years in league.....we need to take a look at the program from top to bottom. But, Henley won't take any responsibility for the FAILURE. Its all the kids. I've heard from several parents as well, that he will question anyone's "character" that doesn't bow to his demands. Everyone from Leduc to Henley to the players to the parents need to look at ALL THE FACTS and decide what's best for the program and the school. Not for one coach or one player...the program! This current recipe isn't working, so unless changes are made within the current coach's head, we'll have to hope someone cares enough about the future kids to make a change for us. I think we'd all stop bashing this guy if he just showed a little remorse for his actions and horrible lack of judgment, the way he treats people and his horrible league play. The kids at any school deserve someone that can help them grow and wish we could find a coach who would hold himself to the same standards he holds the kids to.
Blindness is not an excuse.

Joe Amat said:

Rob's Dad,

Class Act !!!!

Good luck to him and the family. he's got bigger fish to fry!!

Anonymous said:

Thats easy.... Murphy.
So many great kids come out of his program. He goes above and beyond his Coaching duties for his boys. He gets Wins, Colleges looking, scouts looking, the boys have character/ethics. The whole package. and the parents love him. Most of them.

New Topic said:

Top Coaches Need To Apply
Your the athletic director at a high school and you need to start a baseball program...what coaches do you call? Want just wins, want colleges calling, ethics to be taught, total package or what...

Here's a few to throw around...Romano, Smith, Quinley, Merrill, Murphy. You share your choice.

RRodDadDaMan said:

R. Rod's Dad is first class. He had the balls to come on here and express his thanks to all those supporting him and gave Aram a pass to...I'm calling out Aram now to do the same...Come on Aram, come on here and be honest and say, "I f..... up". I think more people would respect that, but we'll never see that happen. So, Mr. R. Rod, go get yourself a banana split with extra whip cream and cherries and enjoy the ride because we all did this year...Mr. R Rod is the blogger of the day with his post.

Anonymous said:

Rob's Dad is absolutely right. No wonder he has such an awesome boy.... Our children are a reflection of us, if we like it or not. It was fun each week to have so much coverage from the SGV Tribune, I was and still am so proud of our boys and Coaches. and we all know Robert earned a spot on the 1st Team, sorry I had to say it one last time. Good luck to him and his family.
and now to Football. Northview is starting off pretty good.

ROBS DAD!! said:

Well folks we really appreciate all the positive support that everyone has given Rob but let’s not lose sight of the fact it’s just a game. We are trying to figure out why Tyler is being drug through the mud by some which is unfair to him and is family. Rob has grown up playing ball with Tyler and was coached by Coach Pill who I have a great deal of respect for and his family. Sure he was left of the team and I do thank Murph and everyone who fought for him and everyone on this blog for their desire to have him mentioned but let’s move on please. The SGV Tribune has been awesome to our family and gave us something that can never be taken from us that is great memories in writing!! Rob has had lots of support for this all to have happened, not only from his immediate family but if extended baseball family as well. Once again thank you all for the support and the laughs because some of this is truly hysterical. By the way I hope it was as fun of a ride this past season for all because it was truly one to be remembered!!! GO VIKINGS!!

nothing changes said:

Nothing is going to change at Glendora until they break up the good old boys club in the athletic department. Don't hold your breathe.

Covina Fan said:

Anonymous at June 22, 2007 08:47 AM

Guess What? Rod is not on the first team. Not going there and won't change. Your wasting your time.

Get over it......

gospartans said:

Here is something I do not get:

Arroyo's Mark Larini 2d teams here, is Mission Valley League MVP and Gabrielino's stud Angel Cabral, with an ERA of .667 in regular season (close to half that of Larini's 1.1 or 1.2?), is PSN First Team & 1st team utility in Mission valley leageu?

Sign of the times said:

Anonymous at June 22, 2007 08:47 AM

Where is Rod heading? JC, D1, D2, D3, drafted?

Next level.. Lets go....

Time to move on

Lates!!

Nobody's perfect said:

Dont put too much credence in ROD being left of of the team,this is coming from the same guy who said that pill is a LEFT HANDED pitcher,and that Charter oak "Destroyed" Covina 4-2.He is just like everyone else,he makes mistakes but is very good overall for High School Sports.

Covina Fan said:

Anonymous at June 22, 2007 08:47 AM

Did you do the stats? Do you know they were inflated? Probably not, since both teams keep them during games.

I totally agree with Perspective's posts. Stop bitching about what can't be changed.

Perpective said:

RodNoRespect at June 21, 2007

I can appreciate the family concerns about their son's not being selected for the first team.

Sometimes you have to take the high road and stop worrying about what can't be changed at this point.

If his parents and coach Murphy console him properly, he will move on and become a much better player for having experienced this. Baseball is a game of adversity, and the cream raises to the top!

I have never seen him pitch, but understand that he’s a good kid and works hard at his game. Keep working hard son, it get tougher and tougher as you move up! You will look back on this and caulk it up as just another journey in your life!

Keep the faith...

The 90% is right said:

WAKE UP HENLEY:

Everything going on at GHS and the coach has no summer program? Wow.Those are some quality players that need to jell and play together.His record on players is horrible,not only Garkow but Crook,Flock went to covina and played well,Crook is a great player, was not even allowed to try out,the list of players goes on and on,players chased out of the program or cut,the Damien travesty,Chekarian left out there struggling,this is good coaching?If he coaches next year It will be a miracle and a mistake.The underclassman look really good and they need a good coach to guide them to victories,not 14-33-1,it is inescapable the RECORD.Wins and losses.No way to put a positive spin on that.

AnyMouse said:

Mikes right but so are you...

Being a protective parent is to be respected, its part of your job so to speak...

As I mentioned your "Moxie" is appropriate, it helps keep a healthy balance...

A degree of calm and rational thought mixed with some gut instinct and overtness makes for a...

Well...

Better "Perspective"...

AnyMouse...

RodNoRespect said:

Perspective,
Maybe not a big deal to you, but it is to Rodriguez family. It's an honor that these kids will always remember. Kids will be overlooked and mistakes happen...This was not a mistake. Aram was told strongly that Rodriguez needs to be a part of this team and he had time to reconsider. He didn't. That raises questions and no one else on the second team can complain about being left off, but Rodriguez being left off is ridiculous.

AnyMouse said:

Mike Da Clone,

Did you at least get credit for the tackle at the plate?

Figured as much yet couldnt resist the jab...

Again the kids from Glendora that are over at Hollenbeck Colt look solid, hopefully the situation over at GHS gets resolved...

Leduc is a competitor and wouldnt stand for continuous losing seasons without some rationale, keep the faith...

AnyMouse...

Pilly said:

Perspective -- Very educated post, and you are right about all of this. My husband has said the very same things - maybe I should listen to him! He's more calm and rational than I am. Thank you for your "perspective"!

Perpective said:

To all the debates going on about Tyler Pill or the selections about the Tribune teams.

Everyone must remember that Aram tries to do the best he can with the selections. Not everyone is going to agree and mistakes or oversights will be made...

However, if someone really wanted to evaluate how many of these kids now or in the past have made it beyond high school or got drafted, that would be an interesting stat.

Sure the players deserve and should be recognized for their achievements, but does it really matter in the long term. Does it really affect Tyler Pill being recruiting by college schools... Very Doubtful! Will it affect ROD not being noticed... Doubtful.. If any athlete is good enough the scouts will find you..

Mrs. Pill, take a break and put your positive energy into helping your son become the College Bound Student/Athlete. I guarantee you, this doesn’t matter!

Pilly said:

take a chill pill -- Take a look at college and pro pitchers and 8-4 does rank up there among the big boys. Any pitcher with some humility will tell you there is no way they can go undefeated without a great team, both offensively and defensively, behind him. Let's see, Wes Roemer from Cal State Fullerton was drafted in the first round this year, and what was his record?

AnyMouse -- Hey thanks! "Moxie" is a great word - I like that. I do agree that Rodriguez should have been on the team. Two pitchers is definitely not enough.

Anonymous -- You'll just never get it.

Anonymous said:

Was that "Joe Amat" or "Joe Friday"?

LOL

AnyMouse...

Joe Amat said:

Sorry, rarely opinions - mostly facts.

Like the fact that Aram wrote that as an outfielder

"...Pill was just as good at the plate, where he hit .463 with four home runs and 32 RBIs...." which would explain why Aram put him on the team

or the fact that you missed it and it negates your entire argument.

Just the facts ma'am!

Anonymous said:

sHE SOUNDS LIKE JUST AN OVER-PROTECTIVE MOTHER TO ME. I AM SURE TYLER WILL HAVE GREAT JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEARS, BUT CLEARLY HE WAS 'KNOWN' AS A PITCHER AND LET'S NOT BE SO TECHNICAL -- THAT IS WHY ARAM PUT HIM ON THE 1ST TEAM, HE DIDN'T MENTION ANY GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS HE MADE IN THE OUTFIELD OR GAME SAVING CATCHES -- SO IF ARAM IS HONEST AND HUMBLE (WHICH HE ISN'T) THEN HE WILL ADMIT THAT IS WHY he PUT PILL ON THE TEAM. AGAIN, THAT IS WHERE THE CRITISM COMES IN -- THE CRITICISM IS TOWARDS ARAM -- NOT YOUR KID. jOE AMAT AND MRS. -- PLEASE NO NEED TO CLARIFY FOR US. WE ALL GET OUR OPINIONS! THANK YOU

AnyMouse said:

Oh, btw Mrs Pill...

I respect your moxie :)

AnyMouse...

AnyMouse said:

I am here, just got back from a meeting with a Div 1 college for one of my kids...

Oops, I meant I took one of my kids over to the local Jiffy Lube for an interview, they cant even spell Div 1 college...J/K

Big Brad was the shortstop, Tyler mainly played outfield and pitched when available...

There you go, sorry I wasnt here sooner and when I was I didnt read the Blog in depth (Golf on the mind this afternoon)...:)

Tyler deserved to be on the Tribs team but I have to add that omitting Robert Rodriguez was a mistake and they should have found a way to include him...

Look at it like this, the Trib isnt the Marine Corps and has flexibility regarding the decisions made year to year if they desire to do so...

I am sure they have staff meetings and Aram should have seen this coming and opened up the discussion of either adding or possibly deleting a pitcher depending upon his discretion, he didnt or if he did it fell on deaf ears...

Considering how insignificant the "All Valley Teams" are as far as a year or two down the road you would think that the ability to give props to a range of deserving players (Either adding or deleting based on the current years crop of talent) would be given to the "Prep sports writer" on the staff...

AnyMouse...

take a chill pill said:

Take a chill pill Family Pills. Not everyone is as "educated" as you. Nobody said your kid should not have made the team. They were just trying to make room for Rodriquez on the team.

As far as that meeting with the Div. I school they were probably wondering if Mike still had any eligibility left. Afterall, 8-4 high school records don't cut it with the big boys.

MomPill said:

Joe Amat -- I know, I broke the family rule about not posting on here! Don't tell Mike!! LOL

MomPill said:

Joe Amat - thanks for clarifying that, obviously better than I did in my frustration! LOL

Joe Amat said:

Reading comprehension "really does matter". The lack of it effects your credibility.

And the question was "which *pitcher* should Rodriguez replace". Since Pill was an *outfielder* it didn't concern him.

Joe Amat said:

Mr Anonymous,

Actually in Arams article here is EXACTLY what it said,

"Pill had a similarly great all-around season for Covina. The junior left-hander was 8-4 with a 1.85 ERA and recorded 91 strikeouts in 68 innings.
Pill was just as good at the plate, where he hit .463 with four home runs and 32 RBIs."

So it mentioned the OUTFIELDERS batting stats as well as pitching numbers.

You can click on the word *team* in Arams post at the top of the page to read the article yourself. I'm sure that the Pills' will now accept YOUR apology after admitting YOUR mistake.

Pills - congrats! Mom, Pops violated the "ban" !:?)

it really does matter said:

oops, forgot to sign the below post, didn't want it to be anonymous but instead -- IT REALLY DOES MATTER!!!

Anonymous said:

Pill Family, It's true that if the NV kid, let me say it -- Robert Rodriguez -- had made the team, when we were asked "then who should have been left off the team" that opened the door for people to analyze the list. Please do not be overly sensitive and THE MAIN REASON people jumped all over Aram is because when talking about the choice of Pill for an "outfielder" the only stats Aram provided were for PILL, THE LEFT-HANDED PITCHER !!!!! Remember?? Which really emphasized Aram's lack of credibility. Sorry it was at your son's expense. Be proud that everytime Pill's name was mentioned as the questionable one, it was generally followed by a compliment. So easy MAMA/PAPA PILL.

PillMom said:

Pops - thanks. I guess what really is upsetting/hilarious - whatever you want to call it - is that people on here who claim to know everything say that Tyler never played outfield, when that is where he played all year, when not pitching. Just wanted to set the record straight on that.

Pops said:

Pill Family,
A very small group, possibly one person, mentioned Tyler here with the all area team...Don't sweat it, Tyler got what he deserved. If Aram didn't screw up with the pitcher from NV, there would be no speculation at all with any of the kids. Once again, blogs about kids being allowed to stay on here. It is Aram's deal.

PeterGammons said:

Get thinking caps on...who wins the game between the 1st Team and Second Team All Area Teams? The second team is right there in my opinion...A little better hitting on the first team, but I like the second team pitching better and pitching does win games most of the time...let the debate begin.

Pill Family said:

Maybe you're confusing Tyler Pill with his brother, Brett Pill (now playing for the Giants). He was a pitcher/shortstop at Covina years back. Just giving you all the benfit of the doubt here, which you really do not deserve.

Pill Family said:

Sorry for this late comment to all of you extremely uneducated people - but we were meeting with a Division I school who is recruiting the kid who shouldn't have made the All-Area team. You claim to know so much about him - what a joke you are. Tyler Pill pitched and PLAYED OUTFIELD - LEFT, CENTER & RIGHT - ALL YEAR. The only time he played shortstop was when our #3 pitcher threw - which wasn't very often. That just blew away any indication at all that any of you know what you are talking about. And you accuse Aram of not knowing what he is doing. What hypocrites! Wonder why AnyMouse - supposedly a Covina parent - is not commenting on this one. He must have been at all of the games. You need to all get a life!!

Original Thought said:

Ah yet another original thinker!

Mike said:

Mousie,

You know me pretty well. Your right I'm a football grunt and at times I do feel kind of naked talking baseball with all you hardcore baseball honks.

The reason I’m chiming in here is because there is for sure something to the roar from the "bagpiper" baseball crowd about their coach.

Henley ALWAYS raises eyebrow when someone mentions his name and I mean ALWAYS. “Pasqie” as much as I ride him and his football prowess is certainly someone the kids really admire. (he is a really nice guy) But just having my ear to the ground you sure can’t say the about Coach Henley. And that’s ashamed because from what I understand he had some good things going on at GHS. Obviously those good times are long gone.

One thing I have learned over here is the tendency to accept mediocrity. And personally I just don't understand it. It’s my competiveness that just eats away at me when I see people accepting that.

I have heard of some kids playing travel ball and such just to keep in tune and hoping to play at a JC or walk on somewhere.

Kind of funny about me I love baseball and would have love to have played in high school but I would have been like a bull in a china shop on the diamond.I remember one of the last times I played organized summer ball I was catching and this guy came around third for home and I stood right in front of the plate and dared the guy to go through me.

Needless to say I got tossed because I knocked the guy on his ass......and the ball was nowhere near me. That's when I realized I was meant to play football.

Out!

Mike the Clone

Bored by Anoy is boring me! said:

Re: Anoy is boring me!

Better now? I have a handle too.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Signed,
Bored by Anoy is boring me!

AnyMouse said:

Mike Da Clone,

You must be hearing opinions on the GHS baseball program from people you have respect for to chime in on this topic, is it truly that ingrained over there that this guy is poison?

I for one have seen a couple of the varsity players and a whole slew of the JV guys from GHS play at Hollenbeck park recently, in my opinion they are well schooled from previous years and talented athletes...

I had to wonder if the problem was the high school program or better yet the lack of a program that allows an area with that much talent to have such a poor record, things just didnt add up in my mind...

AnyMouse...

Bonita fan said:

LV at June 21, 2007

They had 6 or 7 sopohores that started.

anoy is boring me! said:

see original thinker!

Anonymous said:

Re: Anoy is boring me! at June 21, 2007 04:17 PM

Just me again, like we know who you are? I must have missed where you left your name, address and telephone number on the blog

Anoy is boring me! said:

Oh no not Anonymous griping about the griping again! What a piece of work and a original thinker too.

Mike said:

longtimeghsfan,

And I quote you...

"Coaches play the players that give them the best opportunity to win."

Obviously Coach Henley is failing in that department. And if you’re a long time fan how can you justify 14-33-1 if indeed that's his record. Your not one of those accept mediocrity guys are you?

Another thing and I'll quote you again:

"As far as leaving practice to go watch his own son play. That's called being an outstanding parent. You can't tell me you have never left your job early to see your kid involved with something. What a great message to send to kids, family should be your first priority."

Sorry to be a hard liner here but his teaching job let's out him out at what 3:30 or 4:00 at the latest...plenty of time to go see his kid play wherever he play's. Right?

So obviously his family time is conflicting with his baseball time, which is an even bigger reason for him to resign to devote more time to his family. Right!

You make the point for other people, it time for him to turn the program over to someone who is totally devoted to the program and the program is the priority. Why sell the hard working kid’s short if your only going to be there part time.

It’s called priorities, I can’t fault him for being a good family man but it’s sure obvious that you can fault him for not being a very good coach. Anyone can sit back on his or her laurels and be the Times this and that, but a lot of people in the “Bagpiper” baseball program are saying “what have you done for us lately Coach Henley.

Sounds to me “longtimeghsfan” he hasn’t done much in awhile, and the natives are restless.

Just an observation on my part!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Anonymous said:

Re: longtimeghsfan at June 21, 2007 03:05 PM

Thank you for clearing up any confusion Coach Henley.

give me a break said:

longtimeghsfan,

Wake up & watch a ball game. Garkow didn't throw that game & it was what the third game of the year at the Glendora tournament. If the game had been played at the end of the year CO would have crushed GHS like bloggers crush Coach Henley on a daily basis. It would be ugly.

I don't have alligence to either school but I saw enough valley games this year to know that.

longtimecofan said:

Hey longtimeghsfan,
If i remember correctly Garkow never got a shot at glendora....If he pitched, he most likely would have had another win under his belt. THere is no way you can honestly say he wouldn't be a top pitcher there at Glendora. I think you should wake up!!

longtimeghsfan said:

wake up glendora

you must be a really frustrated little league dad who feels like their son has been treated unfairly. Henley has had many accomplishments as a high school coach at both Mountain View and GHS. 4 league titles, 2 CIF semi-final appearances, LA Times coach of the year TWICE!!

Yes Garokow was cut, and the winning of CIF is a great story. The kid had a great season. But lets remember what division CO is in. By the way, didn't GHS beat CO this season? Even with his best stuff, he still would not be one of the top pitchers on the GHS staff.

The Damien game was a fluke thing. If GHS had won by a run, would you still be harping on leaving the pitcher in to long.

As far as the Crook situation. All I know is that no coach wants to lose. Coach Henley least of all. Coaches play the players that give them the best opportunity to win.

As far as leaving practice to go watch his own son play. That's called being an outstanding parent. You can't tell me you have never left your job early to see your kid involved with something. What a great message to send to kids, family should be your first priority.

Coach Henley is going no where. He is a stand up guy who is also a very good teacher. I am glad he is still the coach. GHS could accomplish some outstanding things next season.


baseball fan said:

Aram, what coaching changes have you heard or think are likely in the valley? I know you have your ear to the grindstone, so was just wondering you think/hear.

wake up glendora said:

If you take Henley's accomplishments or lack there of, you could only come to a conclusion that a change is needed. Take away his worse-than-Hitler relationship with the community, his mind games and guilt trips he plays on 16 year old kids, forget about the fact they he leaves practice to watch his son at Bonita, forget that no one comes back to give back to the program becuse of his negative and dishonest behavior....he is 14-33-1 in the last three years in league. PERIOD. Any rational person with young kids who was a unanimous hatred in a community would take a year or two off......watch his kids play...without leaving his co-coaches to lead practices and start fresh somewhere new where he could attempt to start a POSITIVE environment. But not Henley, he is above that. His judgment is never in doubt. Oh wait, Garokow was cut, Chakerian was left in two take 90% of the brunt of that Damien attack, Crook was punished for playing football...oh wait. His judgment isn't all that sound. Oh yeah, and my favorite part........telling others about the lack of character his kids have and try asking former players who can speak about issues without worrying about being benched and they will tell you that coach Hart and Henley can't stand each other because of Henley's style. They both undermine the other. Bottom line: NO ONE WANTS YOU. Glendora hoops and football wins; Glendora baseball is a joke. The only thing worse than a negative coach is a hypocritical negative coach. No one can justify a team that is under 500 practicing in the 90 degree heat while their coach is sitting in a lounge chair at another high school game. Ask any other coach and see what they think of that.

U Annoy-us said:

This blog is NOT ABOUT Anonymous!! Get IT!

baseball said:

What is happening is that Aram doesn't care about baseball, it's all about football. Only an hour & 10 minutes after he put this baseball thread up, he then put up a football thread about a passing league. Who cares???

This is SGV. We put out baseball players, not football.

Rick said:

Breaking News:
Aram did ask a few coaches their opinions...Those asked were Bogan, Gano, Farrar, and Thomas. He forgot that these were all football coaches.

FredJ said:

Use this link for All-CIF teams.
http://cifss.org/index.php?menuID=Page&pid=41

FredJ said:

We don't look at the CIF-team lists, because CIF lists come out after we select the All-Area teams.

Re:Coach Henley said:

Coach Henley hasn't done as horrible a job as you guys say.Look at the team he has put together for next year.They are going to be challenging for a league title..This season was a rebuilding process, now the team is looking good with the pitching and batting.Regis,Layton, and Serafin all can hit for power and average.Roundtree is coming back again behind the plate.Pitching-wise, they've got Nathan Rollon and James Jancleas both returning after good years this season.

Overall, this is a team that could challenge for a crown this coming season.Yes, it is tough to see another bad year but they really overachieved this season in what ahs been a rebuilding process.Yes, it is frustrating to have to watch but now we are set to be a top tier baseball team for the next few years with so much young talent.

Bill said:

That list is hard on the eyes, but was Pill left off CIF?

BigDaddy said:

Garkow deserves what he got...take him out of the talk, it's about R Rod and injustice taking place at the Tribune with Prep Sports. Is the higher ups so hell bend on numbers that if Aram went to the Sports Editor and said, "Look, we have an extra spot this year because we can't justifiably leave a kid off the first team that is arguably the best pitcher in the area this year". Mav and Garkow deserve their honors without a doubt, but so does Rodriguez...he's arguably the best pure pitcher in the area this year and his team was 3 outs from Dodger Stadium. Pure pitcher- not hardest thrower.

Joe Amat said:

Here's your research, but it is kind of futile, as you are comparing Apples & Oranges due to different divisions.
2007 All-AAF Baseball
Compiled by California Baseball Coaches Association
For Release June 18, 2007

Division II
Co-Players of the Year: TS Reed, Senior, Vista Murrieta HS &
Garrett Rau, Senior, Adolfo Camarillo HS
Championship Coach: Dave Legg, Vista Murrieta HS

First Team
Gary
Brown
Senior
Diamond Bar
Chris
Carlson
Sophomore
Chino Hills
Tyler
Chatwood
Junior
Redlands East Valley
JJ
Constantino
Senior
AB Miller
Austin
Cunningham
Senior
Atascadero
Ryan
Doyle
Senior
El Toro
Dustin
Emmons
Senior
Crescenta Valley
Bob
Hosken
Senior
Palos Verdes
Kris
Kauppila
Junior
Crescenta Valley
Matt
Larkins
Senior
Temescal Canyon
DC
Legg
Senior
Vista Murrieta
Jordan
Lindenbaum
Junior
Rio Mesa
Jacob
Mahan
Junior
Adolfo Camarillo
Mason
Morioka
Junior
West Torrance
Jon
Peters
Senior
Chino
Addison
Reed
Senior
Los Osos
Matt
Reyes
Senior
Foothill
Austin
Romine
Senior
El Toro
Brett
Tanos
Senior
Cypress
Ramiro
Velasco
Junior
Santa Ana
Josh
Vitters
Senior
Cypress

Second Team
John
Altobelli
Sophomore
Woodbridge
Tyler
Bussard
Senior
Burroughs/Burbank
Damien
Chavez
Senior
Upland
Jonathan
Erb
Senior
Adolfo Camarillo
Trent
Garrison
Junior
Vista Murrieta
Matt
Grace
Senior
Palos Verdes
Trevor
Hairgrove
Senior
Redlands East Valley
Brett
Hambright
Senior
Temescal Canyon
Derek
Legg
Junior
Vista Murrieta
Kyle
Morgan
Senior
Redlands East Valley
Chad
Nacapoy
Senior
Crescenta Valley
David
Nick
Sophomore
Cypress
Brooks
Pounders
Sophomore
Temecula Valley
Bryce
Rutherford
Sophomore
Arcadia
Justin
Shutt
Senior
Oxnard
Matt
Sisto
Junior
Cypress
Michael
Wing
Senior
Upland
Cameron
Garfield
Sophomore
Murrieta Valley

2007 All-AAF Baseball
Compiled by California Baseball Coaches Association
For Release June 18, 2007

Division III
Player of the Year: Curtis Wagner, Senior, Loyola HS
Championship Coach: Brian Felten, Loyola HS

First Team
Frankie
Bautista
Senior
La Quinta/Westminster
Trevor
Bloom
Senior
Palmdale
Jason
Dovel
Senior
La Mirada
Steven
Dryden
Senior
San Gorgonio
Anthony
Gose
Junior
Bellflower
John
Hill
Senior
La Quinta/Wesminster
Charlie
Hinojosa
Junior
Don Lugo
Stephen
Kaupang
Senior
La Mirada
John
Lamb
Junior
Laguna Hills
Jake
Lemmerman
Senior
Corona del Mar
Carlos
Lopez
Junior
Crespi
Drew
Madrigal
Senior
Paloma Valley
Eduardo
Magallon
Sophomore
Paramount
Noe
Ramirez
Senior
Alhambra
Jeremy
Rodriguez
Junior
Crespi
Chris
Shafer
Senior
Cajon
Jordan
Sigman
Senior
Loyola
Mike
Stanton
Senior
Notre Dame/Sherman Oaks
Joseph
Vierra
Senior
Quartz Hill
Reggie
Williams
Senior
Bellflower
Mike
Wolford
Senior
Hemet
Second Team
Alfonso
Boyer
Senior
Hemet
Aaron
Brooks
Junior
Cajon
Bryan
Davila
Senior
Alhambra
Dimitri
DelaFuente
Senior
South Hills
Joe
DePinto
Senior
St. Francis
Austin
Elliott
Senior
Corona del Mar
Nick
Field
Senior
West Covina
Chris
Galaviz
Senior
Montebello
Erik
Garcia
Senior
El Rancho
Sean
Gilmartin
Junior
Crespi
Chris
Giovanazzo
Senior
Laguna Hills
Jake
Johnson
Senior
La Mirada
Tyler
Leibert
Junior
California
Danny
Muno
Senior
Loyola
Ivan
Niebla
Junior
Paramount
Brandon
Pesante
Senior
La Mirada
Steve
Selsky
Junior
Loyola
Josh
Tejeda
Senior
San Gorgonio
Paul
Tremlin
Senior
Quartz Hill
Brandon
VanDam
Junior
Quartz Hill
2007 All-AAF Baseball
Compiled by California Baseball Coaches Association
For Release June 18, 2007

Division IV
Player of the Year: Edward Orozco, Senior, Rubidoux HS
Championship Coach: Tom Quinley, Charter Oak HS

First Team
Matt
Baudino
Senior
Bonita
James
Cacioppo
Junior
Sonora
David
Castellanos
Senior
Santa Monica
Jeffrey
Dorman
Senior
El Segundo
Danny
Duffy
Senior
Cabrillo/Lompoc
Josh
Escalera
Senior
Victor Valley
Tyler
Garkow
Junior
Charter Oak
Beau
Hopps
Senior
South Torrance
Kyler
King
Senior
Palm Desert
Joe
McGrew
Senior
Santa Monica
Tony
Hessler
Junior
Cathedral City
Daniel
Morales
Senior
Torrance
Kevin
Ponzo
Sophomore
San Dimas
Robert
Rodriguez
Senior
Northview
Alex
Salgado
Senior
Torrance
Casey
Serna
Junior
St. Bonaventure
Kyle
Skipworth
Junior
Rubidoux
Bryce
Tafelski
Senior
Santa Ynez
JC
Torres
Junior
Charter Oak
Michael
Warner
Senior
Savanna

Second Team
Ryan
Arnold
Sophomore
Northview
Michael
Cataneso
Senior
Victor Valley
RJ
Hiveley
Senior
Troy
Jordan
Leyland
Senior
San Dimas
Matt
Lollis
Junior
Rubidoux
Michael
Lorenzen
Freshman
Fullerton
Martin
Medina
Junior
St. Bonaventure
Erelio
Meza
Senior
Palm Desert
Matt
Nunez
Senior
Lompoc
Rich
Pedroza
Sophomore
Northview
Michael
Quinones
Senior
El Segundo
Devon
Ramirez
Senior
Santa Monica
Dalton
Rouleau
Sophomore
Lompoc
Chris
Rubio
Senior
Sonora
Nick
Torres
Senior
Charter Oak
Jason
Wheeler
Junior
Torrance
Doug
Wogee
Senior
Sonora

2007 All-AAF Baseball
Compiled by California Baseball Coaches Association
For Release June 18, 2007

Division V
Player of the Year: Maverick Olivares, Senior, Bishop Amat HS
Championship Coach: Andy Nieto, Bishop Amat HS

First Team

Erik
Allen
Senior
Monrovia
Jared
Arce
Senior
Montclair Prep
Angel
Cabral
Junior
Gabrielino
Robert
Castenada
Senior
St. Paul
Brian
Dearth
Senior
Temple City
Chris
Eusebio
Senior
Bishop Amat
Jordan
Fox
Junior
Bishop Amat
Robert
Hernandez
Senior
Hesperia
Jon
Keck
Junior
Riverside Christian
Matt
Kohorst
Senior
La Salle
Kyle
Matthews
Senior
Woodcrest Christian
Eddie
McKiernan
Senior
Monrovia
Mike
Mendoza
Senior
Temple City
Andrew
Mistone
Junior
Bishop Amat
Oscar
Moreno
Junior
Duarte
Ben
Oliva
Junior
Brentwood
Mitch
Phillips
Senior
Woodcrest Christian
Naveed
Rezvani
Senior
Montclair Prep
Andrew
Viotti
Senior
Duarte
Taylor
Ward
Junior
Carpenteria

Second Team

Tervin
Cano
Senior
Hesperia
Andrew
Chico
Freshman
St. Paul
Curtis
Cowell
Junior
Monrovia
Ryan
Daniels
Junior
Duarte
Matt
Forgatch
Senior
San Marino
Kyle
Geary
Sophomore
Carpenteria
Matt
Hartunian
Sophomore
Montclair Prep
Matt
Izumida
Junior
Gabrielino
Landon
McMath
Senior
Woodcrest Christian
Mitchell
Maseredjian
Senior
La Canada
Ryan
Shepherd
Senior
Woodcrest Christian
Zack
Tadian
Junior
Gabrielino
Ryan
Toomin
Senior
Brentwood
Casey
Yokubaitis
Senior
Bishop Diego


Anonymous said:

Thats the question. Did all the SGV Tribs 1st Team make All CIF? I agree the kids shouldn't be put down.

FredJ said:

That takes a lot of time and homework, and I only saw a couple of Tribune teams, so that's an impossible question to answer. I don't just look at the stats though, you have to consider much more than that.

CO said:

I agree with you all, Rodriguez should be on the team with 3 pitchers making it. I read that Garkow wasn't their ace until the end of the season, well i followed him and he went 20 sum innings without giving up an earned run to start off the season. Tell me thats not an ace for a team. I read a lot about Rodriguez making 1st team all cif, but so did Garkow. They all had great seasons, stop putting kids down.

Jimmy said:

FredJ,

Question, who would have made your team? Forget the players and just go by the stats, would Rodriguez have been there or not? Be honest and you do not need to mention who you would have left off to include him.

Jimmy

FredJ said:

James, he does a great job. As prep editors, you know going you'll never satisfy everyone with all-area selections.

Anonymous said:

Agreed, the facts speak for themselves. Fred will defend Aram as a true co worker should and of course Aram will defend himself or just ignore the topic, Aram should have listened to Murph when he lobbied for RR and nobody would have complained.

Anonymous said:

I know Rodriguez made the ALL CIF 1st Team... thats why I was asking if all of the SGV Tribs 1st Team even made it?
I think we have all come to the conclusion that Northview's Robert Rodriguez should have been on the SGV Tribs 1st Team, now what? Is Aram really going to admit he made a mistake? I can hardly wait to hear GREAT things down the road about this kid.

Anonymous said:

Re: goes both ways at June 21, 2007 12:31 PM

Agreed, but win-loss records cant be screwed with.

Anonymous said:

Paco,

Joe Amat asked the question and we answered, there is no discrimination here. Be honest and forget the names of the kids for a minute, would you pick a pitcher/outfielder that went 9-0 and led his team to the semi finals or a kid who plays pitcher/ SS but gets put on the team as an outfielder which breaks the Tribs own rules, has an 8-4 record and lost during the season to the pitcher/ outfielder that went 9-0. Its not kid bashing or discrimination to point out these stats, they are written in stone.

goes both ways said:

Anymouse & Anonymous @ 11:43,

Remember just as batting averages can be inflated by the coach, ERA's can be deflated. Look at some of the stats on MaxPreps, they are almost all B.S. If all their kids were hitting over .500 with ERA's below 0.50 they would all be undefeated.

Treat stats very carefully.

James said:

Robledo to the Tribune petition...Replace Aram
1. James

James said:

Fred,
One of Aram's biggest responsibilities is the all area teams and the bullish individual ways of selecting the team is not right, so that doesn't mean he does a great job. He dropped the ball big time on this one. He goes after guys like DiFiori, well, now it's his time and justifiably.

lesson learned said:

hey anonymous june 21 @ 12:15 yes rodriguez was selected 1st team all cif by the way!! another slap in the face for aram!!!!

Paco said:

that kobe/aram blog was great...guys, i'm a rodriguez fan, but let's stick to defending him and asking aram for answers...not discriminating pill or any other kid...that's not right.

Jimmy said:

Fred

Exactly, these guidelines were not followed if a pitcher/SS suddenly became an outfielder so he could be squeezed in, he needed to be either a pitcher, infielder or utility but somehow turned into an outfielder overnight.

Garkow fan said:

Because you might be upset that Rodriquez didn't make 1st team, don't take it out on Garkow. That kid pitched lights out. In the playoffs he beat Covina (Pill), Oaks Christian (who scored 13 runs against #1 Sonora) & allowed only 1 unearned run in the championship against Santa Monica.

I agree with some of the others, either put 3 pitchers on the team or should not have had Pill on there especially if he didn't play outfield. Doesn't make sense.

FredJ said:

Hey, hey, you all know Aram does a great job and a I have a lot of respect for him. I'm on this side of town because frankly, I have too much time on my hands during prep break.

Anonymous said:

not that it really matters, I was just curious, what happend to Honorable Mention? or is that just football?
So does Aram really pick these teams on his own???
Did the SGV Tribs 1st Team all make
All CIF 1st team?
Looking at what the blogger posted on Pills stats, he is the one that should have been replaced. I hear a great kid, but looking at the stats...

FredJ said:

I can't speak to Aram's reasoning, or Pill, that wouldn't be fair. I'm sure Aram had his reasons and he struggled with selecting these teams like I did. Again, we have our guidelines that we must stick to, which are the 11 positions that were aforementioned.
By the way, Pill's father, Mike Pill, is one of the greatest in SGV history as far as I'm concerned. Maybe it's because I'm an Edgewood alum, and Edgewood was the best baseball program in the SGV back in the day.

Jimmy said:

Fred and Anonymous at June 21, 2007 11:58 AM,

If thats true then Arams credibility and justification just took a huge hit.

TexMex said:

Fab5FreddyRobledo,
Why won't Aram answer questions...he's writing about going to football games yesterday, so he's around right?
Freddy, how about writing in our area next year?

Anonymous said:

FredJ

Pill pitched and played shortstop, never outfield to my knowledge. Rodriguez did play outfield, so according to your answer that the "utility" is the "wild card" I have to ask how Pill suddenly became an outfielder? Please answer my question because after reading your post this rodriguez oversight stinks even more.

TacoRocker said:

Just heard an audio tape ala Kobe of Aram going off on players and coaches...hard to translate, but this is what it sounds like he's saying...

SGV citizen: "Hey Aram, how do you select the all area baseball team?"

Aram: "What, who the f... are you?" "I pick the damn team myself homey".

SGV citizen: "What do you think of Rodriguez from Northview?"

Aram: "Who, you kidding me? We're talking about Garkow and the top gun kid Maverick and they're asking about Rodriguez".

SGV citizen: "You don't think he was worthy of first team or that his team played well?"

Aram: "Look, the team is done, I already have the photographer lined up for Tuesday and making another phone call to Rodriguez would take too much time, besides, that means giving in and having do do what's right, but not what I want to do".

SGV Citizen: "Will you still be Tribber (Tribune writer) next year?"
Aram: "I'm going to Chicago to be a bull".
SGV Citizen: "F... yeah"

FredJ said:

So you know, we must select two pitchers, four infielders, three outfielders, a catcher, and a utility for each team. The only wild-card we have to play with is the utility pick, which we can use for an extra pitcher, infielder, outfielder, etc. Hope that helps.

Anonymous said:

RE: Joe Amat

Easy enough to answer your question, in my opinion Rodriguez should have replaced either, Garkow (Came on in the second part of the season mainly due to unreal offensive and defensive back up) or Pill (8-4 record is not all valley caliber along with a first round exit during CIF and a third place showing in league). If you use BA as a determining factor remember these can be inflated as anymouse mentioned in a statement below.

AnswersPlease said:

Joe Amat,
If you read the all area team again, you will see that kids were put in slots to just get them on, which is ok because the "best" kids should be on the all area team. There's no argument there because it's all about the "right" kids being selected. Rodriguez fits in that cateogory, if it means 3 pitchers making the team, it means 3 pitchers making the team. Joe Amat, if you truly are an Amat guy, you probabally didn't see many of our games...if you did, you would know that Rodriguez pitched against and beat a few kids on the first team...that's hard to explain....remember, you got 3 kids on there, so no complaints coming from you.

2 CIF Baseball Titles said:

In a previous post I wrote that the Trib should put 3 pitchers on 1st & 2nd team. FredJ wrote that they are limited to 2 pitchers & a utility. Maybe the Trib should change their rule. Having 12 players on each team is a fair amount. This way it would help recognize all who should make the teams.

Just an idea. Let's face it, it will never be "fair" to everyone.

Joe Amat said:

Which pitcher would you all have Rodriguez replace Olivares or Garkow. It is really easy to say someone *should be on* but let's hear who you would take off to replace him? We have spent so much time saying how 9-0 speaks for itself.

This is the Tribune All-Area team and is selected by the Tribune - in the manner that they see fit. They show do diligence by taking all of the calls when the schools report scores, see as many games as they can, and interview/poll coaches - along with fielding calls from coaches who "go to bat" for their players(and props to those coaches)

You cannot have coaches "vote" because they do not see everybody (nor should they or care to). Why should any coach go out and see a team not in their league or division - a waste of time. Thus making it much more difficult for coaches to vote than it is for the Prep Sports guy.

Nice job Trib

Anonymous said:

Don't know anything about how they select the team, but I do think they should be able to have more than 2 pitchers on there. That's obviously what happened with Rodriguez.

Answers Please said:

Lots of questions...still no answers...Aram or Tribune Staff, please answer our questions...how is the all area baseball team selected...why avoid the questions that we all have a right to ask. It does sound like Aram picks the team solely on his own. That has to change. Each year a kid could be getting left off. This year's glaring omission is Robert Rodriguez. Let's go over it again...His record was 9-0 with a 1.85 ERA. This came in the toughest league in the area or second toughest. His wins came against San Dimas-twice (one of best offensive teams around) , BP, Monrovia- against McKiernan, California High, Culver City-CIF, 2 hitter through 6 inn. against Santa Monica in Semis.
His team won 23 games and reached the semis. It's a no brainer, easy decision, that was a big mistake. This wasn't a mistake that slipped under the radar after the fact. Aram was approached to reconsider adding Rodriguez and I guess the GLARING obvious statistics didn't make an impression...that's why he shouldn't pick the team alone. Let's not screw another kid or two in the future. Please don't respond about how tough it is...I and everyone knows that. The team selected this year is one of all deserving kids, but one and that's unforturnate.

Anonymous said:

Hey take it easy Covina mom, it was just a little joke for Aram. I was sticking up for your boy. Aram writes about him so much it was funny that he had him throwing lefthanded. Contrary to your belief not "everyone" knows that.

I don't think Aram took it in a bad way. In fact he probably is still on his football blog & hasn't read it yet.

Anonymous said:

This blog is NOT ABOUT HENLEY!! O.K., we get it - everyone hates him. Do you have to bring him into every blog subject? Ask Aram to start a "bash Henley" blog. Otherwise, don't keep bringing him up in every baseball blog that comes on here.

ABC said:

Amat will be fine at catcher. The upcoming sophomore will do just fine.

Mean Machine said:

Mikey you bring up a good point and one I've asked on many occassions....."When was this glorious 'past' we hear so much about?" I know the football team was suspect until Pasquerella made them at least "over achieving/hard working". But prior to Henley and Pasquerrella, when was the last time Glendora sports did anything other than complain and moan about the good old days or their losy coaches. Exactly when were those days and who were the coaches/players that make normal men crumble in fear.

As far as this year I know the freshmen basketball team will be awesome. Seen the city basketball playoffs and Wallace Gonzalez and Co. will be putting Glendora basketball back on the map. Bonita will also have a tough athletic team but back to the point at hand....when ?

Mike said:

Let me correct myself........All Area Team, not All-Star team just wanted to be PC.

Mike the Clone

Mike said:

Hey Big Boy,

In your take all you did was complain about the parents or "button wearers", but you did not address some of the points that "Almost" brought up. I’d like to see your answers to some of the allegations that were mentioned one by one. I’m just not that involved in the baseball program to be in the “know” other than hearing what I hear from the kid’s and parents in social settings.

I have heard about the petition and I know about the big lead loss, but what do you say about the other allegations? I know from talking to the kids they just plain flat out don’t respect him and just won’t play for him.

So I tend to lend towards some of the things I'm hearing. The stories are just too consistent coming from to many people involved in the program.

My take…if there’s smoke there’s fire and with the “Good Ole Boy’s” club which it seems to be emerging over at “Bagpiper U” the fate of Coach Henley could make for some interesting speculation over the summer.

Talk to us Big Boy, please elaborate.

By the way anyone know when was the last time the "Bagpipers" had anyone named to the Trib's All-Star team and who was he?

Late!

Mike the Clone

Anonymous said:

Northview also had a player named on the Valle Vista League All ACADEMIC Team... and was part of the 7 from the 1st Team....

BigBoy said:

For the pie that made the comment about Henley coaching the Bonita program, you are not even close. Dan has never stepped foot on their field unless his Glendora boys were there. It's funny some of the crap that is written about Henley and other coaches in the area. Most of the comments come from parents, who haven't coached anything more than LL! In which their child played SS and batted 3rd. Now that "little Johnny" isn't playing SS and batting third, you want the coach out. Henley is actually trying to get his players to buy in to something that doesn't actually take money to do and that is where you are lost. Too many of the Glendorians are use to buying what ever they want! If it isn't your way, you want to buy a new coach or punish his family. Maybe even complain to the local programs that you sponsor! Anything to get it your way. Maybe you should transfer you child to that perfect program with that perfect coach and let us all know how he fits in, then you can pop off about your insight!

the almost unanimous voice of glendora said:

Let me check the Henley facts at Glendora:
1)14-33-1 over the past three seasons in league.
2)Task master who expects his kids to be at practice while he goes to watch his son at Bonita.
3)Lost a nine run lead in the eighth inning at Damien in the eighth inning, while leaving Chakerian in to take the entire fall.
4)Has the attitude where if you don't see everything his way, he won't talk to you and will sit your kid for it. Ask Mr. Mair.
5) Cut Tyler Garkow who won CIF for Charter Oak.
6) Wouldn't allow Garrett Crook try out for the team to punish him for playing football. God forbid someone plays more than one sport.
7)After a horrible 5-10 season in league this year, he shut down the program and decided to help coach his son's team at Bonita.
That's what a hurting program needs is a quitter.
8)Openly questions his players and former players character to other coaches and parents.
9) Has a petition going around each year because no one likes his militaristic style, I'm always right attitude but refuses to leave where he isn't wanted. Henley never apologizes to his players or people he wrongs because he is above that.
10) Sends his wife to confront people to see if they want him fired.
BEAT IT HENLEY.

Covinamom said:

Wow - I thought Tyler was MY boy!! I think it's called a "mistake" - I'm sure you've never made one. Happens all the time because he bats left - you all know that. Find something else to nit-pick at. Now you're being ridiculous.

Anonymous said:

Great job Coach Quinley (COY) & Maverick Oliveres (POY). It was a joy to watch both of your teams.

Hey Aram, when did your boy Tyler Pill start throwing lefthanded?

murph fan said:

regarding rrodsham's comment, i totally agree. what so many of the other people,school, kids do not ever find out is how much these coaches do for their kids off the field -- if you are lucky enough to get a good one and one that really cares about these kids. I know firsthand how lucky Northview is and I heard Coach Murphy mention it at his banquet, his greatest accomplishment is how many of his players are at or went on to Division I colleges in particular, but all of those that chose to further their educations. As a parent, that impresses the heck out of me. Murphy's accomplishments and credits go far beyond his win/loss record. Maybe I am wrong, but do most High school coaches have that? It's very rewarding that he is a mentor on and off the field. We heard at the banquet how hard he fought for Robert and it crushed him for Robert to get denied the honor. WE had to give the kids the "sometimes life isn't fair" speech. I'll stop now, my kid will want to hurt me for going on and on but it was worth mentioning and I am thankful to Coach Murph and all of those out there like him. NV better never lose him.

Anonymous said:

I agree with Rick's comment, it would be way too predictable if the Coach of the year was they guy with the most wins -- well that would make Aram's job a little easier and no brain thought -- wait a minute.

FredJ said:

I can tell you that we're limited to two pitchers on each team, and a utility, which can be used for anything you want, like a pitcher/infielder combo, etc.

2 CIF Baseball Titles said:

What probably should have been done was have 3 pitchers each make 1st & 2nd team. Nobody would have complained having Oliveres, Garkow & Rodriquez being on 1st team. They ALL deserved it.

Anonymous said:

I haven't read all of these posts, but how exactly is the team selected? I would think it would be chosen by the sportswriters that cover the games.

Rick said:

Best coaching jobs aren't always done by the coach that wins it. Seeing the NV team come together with virtually no experience back from last years team, albeit 1-2 starters (no starting pitchers) and 8 sophs is amazing. Quinley did good job as well, but my vote would've went to NV coach without a doubt. It's just a great program and the kids that move on and play ball after they leave is impressive. Another sign of Aram's inability to see , really see the game.

Joe Amat said:

A couple of those baseball players also won a CIF D3 Championship in basketball in between the 2 baseball ones. A good couple years for them - 3 rings!

RRodSham said:

Aram was told and told again the day he made the selections that he was missing the boat on Rodriguez...I know that Murphy pleaded with him to look at Robert R. again. He had at least a week to add the kid and flatly refused. There isn't another kid in the SGV that comes close to Rodriguez in the case of being left off. Not a soul would've objected to him being on the first team because of the numbers and who he beat throughout the season. I don't think people are upset about Garkow being selected because they won, well, Northview won a ton of games as well and Rodriguez was their ace from day one...Garkow was the ace that last half of the season with an offense that was scoring 10 plus runs a game there. The crime is that there isn't any reasoning to the decisions being made, it's just opinion by one guy. He should'nt have that much power, esp. without a baseball background. It's really unbelievable when you think about how the team is selected.

Anonymous said:

AnyMouse - I think that's basically what I said. It takes a "team" to help a pitcher go 9-0. Yes, and pitching is all those three, and more. I know a lot more about pitching than you think.

2 CIF Baseball Titles said:

To: Lover of the game

I tip my hat to you for your answer.

Cheers to Coach Ken Kendrena - Amat &
Coach Tom Quinley - Charter Oak

Lover of the game said:

To: 2CIF Baseball Titles

Amat 2001 Dodger Stadium D4 Champions
Amat 2002 Angel Stadium D4 Champions
Coach Ken Kendrena both years

Congrats to all the players, their victories and successes. The SGV is baseball heaven.

AnyMouse said:

Anonymous at June 20, 2007 03:11 PM

I understand the concept of good defense better than most but piching is much more than strikeouts...

Its composure, pitch selection and good sense...

Those 3 things can help a defense help their pitcher, they go hand in hand...

Again another fact so dont try to say that defense led to a 9-0 record, its a team sport...

If a pitcher goes 9-0 it is more than smoke and mirrors...

AnyMouse...

AyMouse said:

I stand by my opinion...

9-0 win-loss record

Semi Finalist in CIF

CIF first team in his division

Senior leadership on a team mainly put together with 15 and 16 y/o sophmores

Walk off home run during a CIF game

This kid came out of nowhere and exceeded all expectations and didnt make the SGV trib due to lack of name recognition, it was politically correct to leave him off and not offend the powerhouses that "Expected" to be on the team even before the season started...

AnyMouse...

FredJ said:

I haven't deleted anything on this thread

Anonymous said:

AnyMouse - I do agree that Rodriguez should have made first team. But to say that a win/loss record truly shows how good you are is something I totally disagree with. You can be an awesome pitcher, but if your defense sucks, you will not win games, no matter how good you are. How many K's you have will determine that, but a pitcher is just not going to strike everyone out. How many times do you hear college or major league pitchers say they couldn't have been whatever and 0 if it weren't for their defense? Hear it all the time. Goes for the offense as well - no hits, no win. There are so many variables in deciding this and no one is going to have the same opinion on all of them. The ones who got "robbed" or whatever, no matter how disappointing (if they are that good), should have the confidence to know that it all comes out in the wash - what they accomplish down the road.

Anonymous said:

love the locals -- Covina had 2 first-team and 6 2nd team. I don't think Covina deserved anymore than 2 on first team, but Northview 7? That's stretching it in my opinion. Covina also had 2 players named to the Valle Vista League All Academic team - that's an awesome one that I'm sure not many kids get.

AnyMouse -- Sorry, have to disagree on the R.J. for MVP. He is a great player, but the MVP is almost always a pitcher from one of the winning teams. Which is why Garkow probably made it.

The majority of high school pitchers are good fielders and hitters as well, which I'm sure is why you have kids (who were very good pitchers) listed as an infielder or outfielder - such as De La Fuente, Pill, Eusebio, and Ponzo.

AnyMouse said:

I debated with myself about chiming in on this and eventually decided I should after looking at this from a different perspective, I tried to detach myself from the local scene to form an opinion...

Before I start let me say once again that I am a Covina High parent, not a Northview parent or booster which I believe strengthens my position regarding this...

Lets say I am from East Texas or somewhere else far removed, I scour the web and run across the SGV trib and this blog which catches my attention...

Being a baseball and prep sports enthusiast I see who the local talent is and who made the first team then I follow up by reading the comments posted on this blog and notice a common topic rising up, a pitcher who went 9-0 and led his team to the CIF semi finals didnt make the first team...

Hmmm, why I ask myself?

Has to be a reason since that doesnt make much sense, I look at the stats of the other guys and they seem impressive enough but not being a fool I know that batting averages (Just like a football players height and weight) are typically inflated, win-loss records are usually dead on and cant be toyed with since they are posted as the games proceed unlike batting averages...

I can only come up with one logical conclusion especially after finding out that this 9-0 pitcher who led his underclassman dominated team to the semi finals then made it on the all CIF first team in his respective division, this team is typically put together on a level playing field if you will and hence is a better guage of talent...

POLITICS, POLITICS, POLITICS...

Preseason expectations, name recognition, predetermined etc...

Sorry folks but the above is fact, not fiction...

Robert you deserved to be there so keep your chin up and understand why this injustice occured, its a good life lesson...

AnyMouse...

FredJ said:

I'm sure Aram will be back soon, but you all know how difficult it is picking all-star teams. When you have this many talented and deserving players to choose from, it's impossible to get it right. There is always a player who feels they were more deserving, and a fan who feels the same way. And you know what, they both could be right.
But what's great about this blog and thread is that Rodriguez is probably skimming through all of this somewhere and he's realizing how supported and well thought of he is in the San Gabriel Valley.

You're a DDD said:

"it does matter" & "CallinUout"

Who's name is at the top of the page?


Don't like it, piss off.

FredJ said:

Robbery, I thought very highly of Rodriguez. He wasn't intimidated by anyone, and forget how hard he throws because he competes, and he got the job done. Whether he deserved to be first team, I don't know, because I didn't see the other players in the Tribune area other than Maverick. You couldn't argue with his numbers, however, or who he competed against and what he did under pressure.

RobberyinSGV said:

Does it seem unusual that Robert Rodriguez (9-0 with a 1.85 ERA. Wins over San Dimas-2 times, Covina, Monrovia-Eddie McKiernan, BP, Culver City, and had 2 hitter in 6 inn. in semis) isn't a member of the all valley first team?

Robledo what did you think when you reported at the Northview-Monrovia game of Rodriguez?

CallinUout said:

ddd,
this is our valley and our newspaper if you live in the sgv...we have the right to question the big guy and his tactics...he routinely uses bullish tactics and gets pissed off when you question him. there is no rhyme or reason for his selections and he refuses to answer the questions that people have. it's easy to say "move on" but the kids get f..... over when he makes decisions without researching the kids. It's this years "All Area High School Team", not career recognition or future prospects team.

Anonymous said:

Amat is so good they dont need a catcher, just ask them and they will set you straight on this.

lancer 4 life said:

With Amat really bringing back a solid team again next year who will be their catcher now that Kevin Bonilla is at Chino Hills High School?

You're a DDD said:

"does it matter"


Get a life idiot.

If you don't like what's being said here, go somewhere else.

2 CIF Baseball Titles said:

Congrats Tom Q! You deserve Coach of the Year again. Twice in three years. That's pretty special. I can't remember anyone else taking their teams to Angel & Dodger Stadiums 2 out of 3 years.

Also congrats Maverick O. for Player of the Year. You had a great season.

Instead of using this blog to bash players & teams, lets use it to support them. Great job SGV. 2 CIF Baseball titles!

lesson learned said:

Well let it be said and let it be written. Mr. Aram really screwed this one up. And also let it be known that I am a PROUD NORTHVIEW parent. As one said earlier anyone that has the power to print must get facts right! This kid Rodriguez is not one of the flashiest guys in the area but can down right play ball. I’ve had the pleasure of seeing him toss the ball over the last couple years, and at this years banquet come to find not only did he come in and shut down a powerful hitting team from La Habra in last years first round CIF game when our 1st pitcher couldn’t get out of the second inning but also beat a great team from Newbury Park earlier in the pre season tournament. I would also like to add that Coach Murphy shared that he was significant part of last seasons Valle Vista Champion team saving not 1 but 2 games with diving catches in right and left field to end both games. So how Mr. Aram do you justify yourself now? Unfortunately we can not change the past and reprint yesterday’s paper but hopefully this is a lesson learned. The SGV Tribune has been great to Rodriguez all year as we all know but I’d bet he and his parents would trade this accolade for all the write ups.

Poor Henley said:

Glendora parent at June 19, 2007

It must be killing Henley that he can't control Bonita's decisions? No wonder he dropped the summer program to coach his kid!

Sign of Tom said:

Tom Q comes out after his team wins CIF?

Wow, same old Tom. Hides until something good happen, then talks to the Tribune.

Kept cutting that grass Tom, it must ease your pain! LOL

Mr. Aram2u said:

Hey Aram,
TQ needs his birdcage lined up...when is your next article coming out? I can see Aram cleaning out the birdcage and the two watching the Charter Oak highlight dvd together.

TomQsRevenge said:

Although I think the lawnmower rides are enticing for the TQ fans, but I don't imagaine any of the haters signing up for rides...that would mean they'd actually have to go on the field and do some work and walk in the man's shoes they blasted all year...I imagine the Q man must be sitting at home with a little cup of joe smiling from ear to ear thinking..."Revenge, how sweet it is".

Tom Q Fan said:

One more time before people forget.....Tom Quinley lawnmower rides!!!!

Whiners, lowlifes, complainers and haters get to ride for free.

Hey what happened to all those negative comments and complaining Dads and fustrated ex jocks.

Tom Q. you handled success and Aram's interview with class and shared the fruits of your victory by saying "it was all the kids" Yup you're a jerk alright! LOL

I bet the first chance some of these know-it-all Dads/Coaches will do is "run the kids in the dark" just like Coach Tom Q does at Charter Oak. LOL

By the way great job at Northview. Glendora needs a "cup" of whatever you're having! LOL

Rob said:

Gary Brown, Robert Rodriguez, Maverick Olivares and anyone else for MVP? Who is the MVP and how is he picked? Who is First Team or Second Team and how are they picked? Readers, did you know the stats of these players before today? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why? They were never posted all year in the paper or on the website, NOT ONCE!!! How do we understand the selections or support them when we have no idea what some of these players are doing...Well, the educated baseball minded Aram (still in June thinks that Tyler Pill is lefthanded pitcher-read preseason review and all valley today- "Aram (from Apollo 13) we got a problem...Tyler is right handed pitcher". Also, labels him as a first team outfielder but talks about his pitching and hitting. Is this just the best players? If so, why label positions if that doesn't matter? (No disrespect to Tyler-very talented-just an example)but if Aram doesn't know that Tyler is not lefthanded, who is he to single handedly pick the all area team and coach of the year? I do have a problem with R. Rodriguez not getting picked on the first team, but I have a major problem with how the selections are done and how there is no input from any coaches or statistics used throughout the year to back up the selections...People are going to judge who makes the team and who doesn't, my intentions are not to judge those who did- they are kids and I won't criticize them publicly, but some are doing it and they don't know RJ's stats because Aram didn't post them. 1st team and stats are not printed? How do we know or not know if a kid went from .380 in May to .500 two weeks later in June? As adults, we move on, but it's not fair to the kids who will always remember this honor or lack of honor for a better word. The all valley team needs to be done the right way and it would be respected a lot more.

Glendora parent said:

Glendora is so corrupt. Apparently three continual years of losing games, players and respect isn't enough to cause a change because Leduc calls the shots and Henley is one of his boys. How sad that RESULTS and CHARACTER don't matter. I guess we could have used Garkow this year, but Henley cut him, wouldn't let Garrett Crook try out for the team and expects people to be at practice in the heat while he watches his son ride the pine at Bonita. That's a man we can all respect. All you who ripped Quinley, Smith and others, we'd give anything to have them at GHS.
Glendora Parent

Anonymous said:

HEY, DIG NORTHVIEW BUT NOT SURE WHY WILL DAVIS MADE SECOND TEAM, MAYBE IT WAS BASED ON HIS POTENTIAL. OH WELL

DAZEDNADCONFUSED said:

HOW DOES THE "SOPHOMORE" FROM COVINA GO 8-4 AND MAKE 1ST TEAM AND THE "SENIOR" FROM NORTHVIEW GOES 9-0 AND TO THE SEMI FINALS AND DOES NOT MAKE 1ST. TEAM?
i KNOW IT SAYS AS AN "OUTFIELDER" BUT ARAM'S ONLY SUPPORTING COMMENTS WERE ABOUT HIS PITCHING.
I AM SO CONFUSED

sgv rocks said:

It is awesome to see so much success come from the SGV -- REPRESENT
iT IS TOTALLY A BASEBALL AREA AND IT SHOWS. I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THE TOP 1/2 KIDS FROM EACH SCHOOL AND GO PLAY SOME KIDS FROM BACK EAST. tHE TALENT LEVEL IS JUST MIND-BOGGLING

Tartans need Change said:

Mike the Clone

The coached checked out of Glendora baseball right after the last game. He didn't even have a summer program for his own players, but was quick to team up with his old Glendora principal buddy and doc friend to coach their own kids on travel ball.

Way to re-build the program over at bagU land!

wtf said:

hahahahahahahah!!!! why did will davis get 2nd team... i thought he was the real deal.

Mike said:

Big Reg,

Reg hey buddy, I'm here, I'm just too damn depressed about Nisha being gone…(laughing).

And I'm just so wrapped up in this whole Paris Hilton thing and let's not forget drama Momma Kobe...............NOT!

For awhile there I had to take a break from all the Amat baseball bashing bullcrap. Man I tell you what some of these guys are STILL saying just amazes me to no end.

What’s up with the cable casting? Are you going to be doing games this upcoming football season or are they cutting the cord on you guys?

And here's a closing observation. You did notice that not one "Bagpiper" was on the list of first teamers or second teamers. When was the last time that has happened? I'm hearing from the people in tuned with the Tartan baseball program that they aren't to happy about that and they aren't blaming A.T. for it either.

Keep us posted Reg with the football coverage.

Late!

Mike the Clone

love the locals said:

Hey Any Mouse, I am a NV parent and am really, really proud to announce that NV had 7 -- 1st. Team members on the ALL LEAGUE. Since, once again, Baseball was ignored, how did the Covina players do?? If you know please share with us as you so kindly share your kind words about Northview. So many of these kids have grown up together and I would love to know how the kids over there did as well? I have seen it mentioned on here so many times, and I was even annoyed when Aram mocked it, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS NOW. Give them there credit.

Three strikes said:

Its truly hard to believe that Gary Brown wasn't the player of the year!

He played in up in the Sierra league, hit over .600 and pitched lights out!

Bishop Amat played down all year long against WEAK competition and Brown played in D2.....

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BP Fan said:

Its hard to say Maverick wasn't the MVP because he was undefeated on a CIF champion, won the championship game and hit almost 400 at the plate. He also didn't fumble two balls in the semifinal game against Santa Monica.

AnyMouse said:

Tommy over RJ?

No Way, not this past season at least...

I actually had RJ as the POY or MVP if you will and this statement comes from a Covina parent so dont think for a minute that I am on the NV bandwagon...

My reasoning is this, it seemed that everytime I picked up the Trib and read the prep sports round up RJ was the guy who had the winning difference in RBI's for his team...

Add in the walk off home run during CIF and you get an MVP...

Just my opinion, anyone out there agree or disagree?

AnyMouse...

save Glendora baseball said:

Congratulations to all those recognized for your accomplishments this season. I sit back as a Glendora fan without any hope that our team will get any better until they have the stones to ask Henley to leave. I think there is too much talent to not make the playoffs each year, but worse yet, good players are going elsewhere because of this man. Garkow, who was on the mound at Dodger Stadium was cut by Henley. I am sure that one stings as much as losing a nine run lead in the eighth inning at Damien. I hope the rumors are correct that Smith from South Hills is coming to Glendora because Henley won't leave until he's forced out. The definition of arrogance is expecting EVERYONE to change and live under rules you won't live under yourself. If he doesn't agree with you, he will ignore you and punish your kid for it. I hope there are brighter days ahead in the Pride of the Foothills, but until Napolean leaves, we'll continue to suck.

WTF said:

I understand that according to the story that Garkow won three playoff games. But he won six total games. Rodriguez won nine. I am not in any way slighting Tyler because what he did was great, but the argument by choosing him over R-Rod is that we're looking more at the three weeks of playoffs than the whole three month season to judge someone's performance. I can make the argument that Olivares obviousl had the best year as a pitcher, but no one else's numbers could match Rodriguez. The committee that chooses this team should spend more time looking at the stats because stats can not bad mouth your abilities like a rival coach can.

TumsforAram said:

My Picks,
You take Reyes over Arnold in infield...well, it's checkers than, I'll take over Pedroza over Reyes...Because editor Aram didn't represent Arnold with any stats (how he left that out, I don't know) don't be fooled into thinking he's not belonging...ask McKiernan, Pill, and Ponzo (3 of areas best pitchers) who hit them hardest all year...guarantee Arnold is on that list. Rodriguez off the first team, who goofed I've got to know.

RODRIGUEZGOTSCREWED said:

When I first heard Robert Rodriguez was not a first team member, I laughed and told the person who told me that you have to be kidding me. I watched every kid on that all area team pitch and Robert was not that kid who threw the hardest or was the biggest, but if you know baseball and pitching, he was the best PITCHER of the group, changing speeds, moving in and out of the strike zone and rising up the big game. That is no disrespect to any other kid selected, but this kid was money for the Vikings. I'm not only a NV fan, I like C. Oak and others as well, but up until that last inning in Santa Monica, that team was the story of our area (walk off homers, beating McKiernan, winning a tough league and all with 8 sophs and a freshman on the roster). Whether you like it or not, that team was special and the guy that carried them each time he walked on the mound was Rodriguez. Robert, you remember your wins over SD, Covina, Monrovia, BP, and your semi final masterpiece for 6 innings at Santa Monica because that's more important than what Aram thinks. ALL CIF 1st TEAM is what I'm talking about!!!

lpheat22 said:

remember accordding to aram the playoffs only matter to him season doesn't count cause there's too many teams to cover and there's only one man

Get it right said:

Aram,

In your article on Coach of The Year Tom Quinley & Charter Oak you have CO only winning 4 games in the playoffs when in fact they won 5 games. You forgot the 5-1 win over Torrance.

Remember Torrance. You thought they were the most dangerous team in the division & CO handled them pretty easily. Come on, if this was football I'm sure you would have your facts straight.

Rodriguez Robbed said:

Robert Rodriguez led seven underclassmen to the semifinals with a 9-0 record, a 1.90 ERA and had a walk off home run to get them to the semifinals. He had us three outs from Dodger stadium before the team fell apart and he is punished for this? I am sure every year people feel their kid gets robbed, but numbers don't lie. He beat McKiernan, Ponzo and Pill, who are all first team selections for their respective area. I just don't get this one. What's the rationale? I know this paper loves Bishop Amat, but Jesus, three Amat kids and one of ours. His leadership was something you couldn't see everyday at practice, but you could see it on the field on game days.

NVvikes said:

Hey my picks:
are you kidding me? Will Davis on the first team? He had a lousy year..ask him, he will tell you. He hit seventh on the Northview team and did NOTHING in the playoffs. Pedroza and Rodriguez not on the first team? Wow! How come there was so little written about what these kids did to earn first team nominations. Why no stats on RJ? Ya' must have been in a hurry when you wrote this.

Charge Pride said:

Big Reg,

That was a great segment on YouTube. Your awesome.

Also Congrats to Coach Quinley & Charter Oak. Without a big star player, you guys were truly a "TEAM". Charger Pride!

Big Reg said:

AT:
No problem, let me know the time and place. We should try and do a remote from Applebee's San Dimas, Montana's in San Dimas or even at the newly appointed Head Coach of the Bassett Olympians Football team - Leon Ward's House. Anyhow please consider us doing out on location somewhere. Perhaps the http://www.insidesocal.com/aram bloggers can nominate a few places? Let's hear it..... I am there. Thanks for sharing this clip with your bloggers and I almost forgot - Congratulations to the 2007 SGVTribune Coach of the Year for HS Baseball - Charter Oak Chargers Mr. Tom Quinley.....
-Reg

ps Where's the Clone ? ? ? I want to hear the Clone!

Aram said:

Reg,

I'm asking you here and now, and in front of the SGV sporting world - will you do a Hall of Fame Game 2-minute drill with me on VIDEO the week of the game? I promise not to yell like the Rowland-Los Altos playoff game.

If you say yes, I'll put this vid up.

Big Reg said:

AT:
Nice selections bud. What a season huh? I'd like to get your take on how do you think your selections would have changed if Keith Nyeholt from Charter Oak stays healthy the entire season?
From my observations from the CIFSS Division IV Championship at Dodgers Stadium, I hadn't seen a player that is that clutch besides the newest member of the Los Angeles Angels Monrovia's Eddie McKiernan. It seemed to me that Nyeholt would have been a strong contender for Championship game MVP - if the CIFSS would have chosen one. Don't get me wrong, Charter Oak had an outstanding team effort however because of his heads up base running and overall play that day he stood out among the best. Congratulations Charter Oak. Congratualtions Bishop Amat and Maverick Olivares - SGVTribune Player of the Year. Let summertime begin.
-Reg
ps if Aram would be so kind as to share this link on the segment for CNN I produced on Charter Oak and Bishop Amat. Thanks AT, can't wait for Football season man.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73NRrvb2Ns

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Good Job said:

Overall, a very good job on this years picks.

Olivares as POY & Coach Quinley as Coach of the year very much deserved it. Good job on getting it right!

my picks said:

Eusebio over Garkow as the Second pitcher.
Tommy Reyes, Infield first team replacing RJ Arnold.
Will Davis over Nick Torres in the outfield.

Other than that everthing else looks good.

Highway 2 the Dangerzone said:

Aram, you're ego is writing checks your body can't cash.....I was just talking about this last night and how kids these days wouldn't know about Top Gun....too funny! Congrats to Q! And great job to Northview and Coach Murph! You guys will be the team to beat next year, for sure!

JBowden said:

only one kid west of the 605? Do they not play baseball on the west side anymore

Aram said:

Do you want to feel old? None of these kids were born yet when "Top Gun" came out!

Anonymous said:

Very proud of our boys this baseball season. The season was very exciting and fun to watch the other schools besides ours as well. A little dissapointed at what I see here but proud non the less. I know not everyone can be happy.
Would have LOVED to see Coach Murphy as Co-Coach of the Year. He did a phenominal job.

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