BREAKING NEWS: Dorian Wells headed to South Hills ...

wells left cause he got caught getting his dick sucked at edgewood elementary

wow state wtf?? we huskies arent even trippin on that. we are focused on winning one game at a time.
hype is nothing. we will talk on the field.
soo good luck to everyone.

wow state wtf?? we huskies arent even trippin on that. we are focused on winning one game at a time.
hype is nothing. we will talk on the field.
soo good luck to everyone.

All of your comments. You seem to be putting some much time into your blogging. If you're not making a tuition payment....WHY DO YOU CARE??
So, is there like cyber s-x after you finish your long, drawn out blogs???

"or do they just monogrammed pocket protectors"....("monogram")

"maybe that why"...(that's)

Gee who wrote that?

Same point putting down the Chess Club...yeah they're the "dumb jocks".

As far as "model"..as in entity, example of, form, type...should I go on?

As in Coed model, single sex model, religious model....not Model as in "best of"... yup you're a sharp tack all right...or is it alright?

Checkmate dude:

First let me help you with YOUR spelling and writitng skills. (Since you have none)

They are in fact a tri-school model of education
(What makes them a model?)

but than reading and knowledge are your obvious shortcomings...(THAT'S "then" NOT "than")

Get your facts straight. And please wear a helmet when you go out for the homeboys' 40s! You pitch in less dinero you get to go for the beer! ...(SORRY, CAN'T HELP YOU HERE, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. TRY NOT TO DRINK AND WRITE AT THE SAME TIME)

I would have to charge you for this tutoring session but I can't imagine taking money from the less fortunate.

Typical of real ignorance to down play intelligence...you must have been the bully on the block that now rides around in an Escalade you can not afford or the always famous former bully ride ....the beach cruiser!

As far as Bosco Tech joining the Tri-School (Damien/St. Lucy's/Pomona Catholic) model I don't think so. They are in fact a tri-school model of education but than reading and knowledge are your obvious shortcomings and knowing that would involve research before you dribble out misinformation.

Get your facts straight. And please wear a helmet when you go out for the homeboys' 40s! You pitch in less dinero you get to go for the beer!

Checkmate? It figures that the President of the Chess Club would have to defend Damien. Do they hand out banners and trophies to the chess team? Or do they just monogrammed pocket protectors? Maybe that why they don't like to flaunt their accomplishments. Go back to your gameboy.

Live long and prosper.

I don't think Don Bosco wants anything to do with the Tri guys. Please don't tarnish the school by grouping us with them.

"Tri-schools"? That's a new one. But then I guess you have to start combining your weak schools before they show up on the radar. Maybe you want to combine Don Bosco Tech in there then you can call it the Fantastic Four and really get noticed? I love those fantasy groups.

To compare Bishop Amat to Damien is to compare Bishop Amat (boys and girls) to Damien/St.Lucy's and Pomona Catholic) Tri-Schools (boys and girls).

There again. You've never seen the trophy case because Damien does not parade it's Championships or League Banners. Again it's not what the "tri-Schools" is all about.

Get your house in order before you get smug about other schools. Maybe a list of Damien, St. Lucy and Pomona Catholic college acceptances will finally put you back in check. By the way where is Bishop Amat's pool? I've never know a Premier that didn't have a pool in their residence....except maybe the Premier of La Puente! lol

Checkmate homeboy.

Someone clarify for me...Has Damien ever been a Div 1 school in any sport? Did it ever play in leagues such as the old Angelus League or anything close to the Serra League or Trinity League? I’ve been to both schools and have seen the trophy cases and championship banners both league and CIF sections. Bishop Amat eclipses the history of Damien and any other school in the SGV. People like whale hunter should come back when they have some substance to talk about. But then when he writes and says, "That was a so good to see" Ummm...what does that mean? Or is that the way they talk at Damien? Duh..

Academian:

That was a so good to see. Both Amat's response and your low down on Loyola.....As far as "Bishop Amat" being the premier academic school in the SGV...that's so absurd.

Damien is easily a better academic school. As far as sports again...Damien is superior in more sports. Does Amat even have swimming, water polo or golf much less debate or hockey? How about Webb? Does Webb qualify as SGV? How about Diamond Bar who were recognized as having the highest percentile of AP classes per students with the highest AP scores per student ...in the country! They may have their problems on the football field but in the classroom I suspect they smoke Bishop Amat as well.

Gee Bishop Amat what are you known for again? Other than drama! It's clearly not academics...except for the "smart ones" and EVERY SCHOOL HAS SMART KIDS!

Blu look up premier does it mean "second rate"?

For the Football Experts.IF every school kept their STUDENT/athletes and no one was RECRUITED AWAY OR TRANSFERRED for any reason, What program would still be successful? Who really is the best coach in the valley? For baseball it would be Nogales(Romano).

That clears things up x 3! =)

TY!

"A student who changes schools *for any reason* (unless they get an approved "hardship") are not eligible for varsity competition for a period of 1 year from the date of transfer *without a valid change of address*."

Just to clarify a few definitions on this:

1. The "valid change of address" means that the student and his legal guardian must reside at the new location (not just own or rent a place there, they have to sleep and get their mail there too). This qualification is often met by either a) a family that lives in an appartment simply changing appartments, or b) a family wealthy enough to own more than one home rents out their original residence and temporarily lives at a new location.
2. Hardship waivers exist to make sure that kids in unfortunate circumstances (divorce, illness of a parent, etc.) requiring them to change where they live -but not in accordance with the above restrictions- don't get screwed out of being able to play. This is so CIF doesn't get sued or legislated out of being able to make their own rules.
3. Illegal contact or influence from the coach at the destination school is grounds for trouble no matter what method of waiver occured.

If a student transferres out of Amat and has played on any level he must sit out unless he changes address or it is deemed a hardship. Hardships are being looked at by CIF and are not being granted as easily as they used to. You need to meet with CIF and fully disclose your financial records. Even if you already live next to a certain school and you transfer out of Amat to that school, the same applies. You would be better off finding another school with an address.

blu,

Your first statement is somwhat correct. Let me try to clear up the rest.

A student who changes schools *for any reason* (unless they get an approved "hardship") are not eligible for varsity competition for a period of 1 year from the date of transfer *without a valid change of address*.

If an amat student is "asked to withdraw" that is not an official status that is reflected on the students record. It would simply be recorded as the familywithdrawing the student, as opposed to the schools' "expulsion". Kind of like a boss giving an employee the chance to "resign" before they fire said employee.

It is my understanding that anyone that transfers out of Amat and into another schoool at this time would not be eligible to play this coming season. In order for CIF to deem these players eligible, they would have had to transfer last semester...like Bryce McBride did. Wells is not considered a transfer because he was asked to leave which would also make him eligible...I'm I correct in this guys?

Anyone have any more info on this?

2 the end??

This is not a marriage, no vows were exchanged of for better or worse. But then again, maybe it is about commitment and a lack of or the perception that there is a lack ofit on the part of Amat to its students/players. It has to be more than football for this many families to leave, but I'm sure its a part of it. Lets be clear, no kid makes the choice to leave. They may want to, but its the parents that do. No parent would make that decision lightly. Like someone else said, they lost last year and badly to some teams and didn't leave, so its not that alone. Badmouthing these kids(and they are just kids)and their families is wrong and irresponsibile and does not address or correct the problem. You/we may love Amat and be a big fan and/or alumni but that does not change the fact that there is a problem there. If it was 1 or 2 leaving maybe its just attrition or bad apples, but 10+ in a single off season? Hey, I'm just saying that starters or not, all of these families can't be wrong. Lets be honest.

With all the kids that have transfered out of Amats program and moved into D6 or D7 areas weather by choice or being bounced good luck. It should come easier to you and your parents to play there instead of D1. With the mass exodus happening dont be surprised when other players start transferring into Amat. Here is place where a parent can take their kid to play on a team with jobs wide open...I hear some kids from area schools are coming to Amat.......stay tuned on this one....

Those players and parents leaving Amat are --ssies. Those that left or are leaving are afraid to play at the D1 level after getting a taste of S.O. Notre Dame and Crespi last year. It is either they are afraid to play on a "supposed" losing year or their parents do want to be associated with a "supposed" losing year.. or they are afraid lil junior is going to get hurt. To the parents that are pulling your kids for a chance to start elsewhere, what is the point? 10 footballs games with no scholorship at all. After spending 3 years at Amat why would a parent take a soon to be senior and place him elsewhere.....?..I admit there are kids that moved for financial reasons and kids that caught playing off campus but....for 10 games to say that your kid is playing on a "supposed" winner...you have to take your lumps in life and if Amat is on the down swing in the football area like most claim, so be it, but the real mighty men that wear the blue and gold are the ones that will tough it out and play under the lights for Amat. Blame the coaches. Blame Carroll. Blame the tuition.......when it comes down to it , it is the parents who make the final decision...Screw football , what a way to jerk with your kids education and 3 year roots he already gave to the school, for what?..10 games of football on a "supposed" winner?... The Grass is not always greener on the other side...then when lil junior stumbles fumbles and maybe screws up along the way ,thats when parents will second guess themselfs and say "you know we should have toughed it out and stayed at AMAT. To our Young Men there putting in the work for the Amat team. Stay strong Gentleman wear your colors proud and you are the MIGHTY MEN THAT WEAR THE BLUE AND GOLD...Remember everyone is 0-0 right now and lots of those that left (not all ) were really non factors.....we still have talent and we still will show up and give it all we got come Firdays....as a parent I back the program and Mark Verti 100%....to the ones who bailed, one word --ssies!

Blu... names are coming, please stand by.

Not to poor salt in our wound, but realignment has to more do with playoff runs and those standings. League votes almost always come down to that. Based on that Loyola has be in the playoffs 2 of 3 with 1 title in last 3 years, whereas Amat is 0 for 3. After Amat having lost and continuing to lose such a large number of players, Loyola will be more likely to make the playoffs this season than Amat.Plus, unfortunately for us, Loyola is currently the bigger media draw. If we do not have a playoff run, we can only hope the lower division teams pass on moving up.

Insider...

Names would give more credibility to your claim.

John...

I completely forgot that that was a possibility with Loyola. But you are completely right! Amat has a 19-8-1 winning record vs. Loyola including last year and the year before when the Cubs won Div. 1. If we go down in division, we should be following Loyola.

I wasn't joking, if you are. 4 more players are checking out of Amat. This has to stop.

People have been making jokes about this at times, but this mass exodus says something is really wrong at Amat. At this point, the school itself should probably be investigated. This is definitely not normal.

This just in! The CIF office has just received a group of phone calls from area teams/parents who are not happy with the recent transfers. Coinciding with the recent Supreme Court ruling(read about it in the Times), I would guess that a few coaches are sweating a bullet or three.

THIS JUST IN!!!!!! 4 MORE PLAYERS HAVE LEFT AMAT!!!!

Aram, what is the real story here!!!!!

Academian,

Those college apps are due far earlier than the financial aid forms, so many families apply to schools hoping for a great aid package. When reality hits and after those small tuition numbers you factor in room and board it becomes too burdonsome for some families. So it isn't quite fair to come back to john with *tuition* totals.TH ecosts are much more than just that. I'm certainly glad that I don't have to fork over the $35,000/year that it costs to go to a private college. As you say (and someone else tried to slam you for by saying that this is a "sports board"-I apologize for them) BOOKS come first. And if people make certain that kids understand that THAT is the sure thing instead of chasing the *golden ring* of an athletic scholarship we'll all be better off.

I don't think that bluorca is arguing the value of a Loyola education. That is why he continues to compare schools in the *SGV*. Different demographics and a far different group of families at Loyola (as can be explained with the higher tuition).

It also is a little decieving to compare public school student teacher ratios because they include many very small RSP/Special Ed/Study Hall classes that lower the average substantially. If you compare the *core courses* only, I bet it is much more comparable.

Good luck at Loyola and thanks for giving amat a try. To each his own.

Wow 315 hits with the majority all against AMAT. The jealousy is far and away greater then I thought it was. AMAT, for as lowlife and lousy as our sport and academic programs are stated to be by all the haters is sure on everyboby's minds . If we are so insignificant as you all say we are you sure spend alot of time blogging about us. But then again when you're at the top everybody wants a piece of you.

I could not ask for better school then to send my kid to Bishop Amat. Sure it cost money but I would not trade or sacrifice my kids education.. At Amat most (not all) go in thinking college and most come out going to college...it is instilled in your head there..you take it or leave it........but most take it....Public schools have their good points but those teachers want to get rid of that senior class as soon as June hits and guidance counselors dont give a crap unless your kid comes to them........when your kid leaves Amat he is bound for college (most not all)...when your kid leaves Public school he is thinking Job or Military (some not all)...guidance at the private is allot better than public....the counselors in private are already treating you like a college student, preparing you for the next step and following you along the way....you do not get that in public unless the student asks for it.....I say if you have it in your budget send your kids to private..

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD, ........

Academian, you say you're sorry you sent your kid to Amat? Why is that, because he didn't cut the mustard there?

Consider yourself lucky, you could have spent even more money had you sent him to Loyola and have him get blown out of the water there. Hopefully the extra cash you saved paid for Mt. SAC and his Trade School he's attending.

Now STFU and get out of here, this is a sports blog you crybaby.

Academia:
Just to update you on Loyola $$ it's now $10,255. Almost 80% higher than Amat. I'll send my kid to Amat any day and watch Amat kids excel academically higher than any other SGV school students.

I AM the ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD, etc...

Academian, so I take it we shouldn't send you any information about Amat fundraisers anymore?

John,

With all due respect why would a student apply to univeristies they could not afford to attend. That is an exercise in futility. Your point would also be valid in there were no affordable 4 year intstitions, BUT there are. The average tuition at any Cal State Univeristy is $2772 annually. that is half of Amat tuition. UC System is a little higher than Amat, but $7446 annually is not a stretch. The difference of $2000 annually could easily be made up in a student loan, work student, grant, or part time job. Again, if we are speaking of academics being the priority, there are options. Otherwise what is the purpose of the sacrifice for private highschool education if it comes to a dead end.

In regards to football, you are correct Amat did beat Loyola. But 2 years ago Loyola was CIF Champs and last year was a rebuilding year for them. They will be a t full strength.

But is not about you, me or Loyola. Its about the weaknesses that we both agree Amat has, identifying them and fixing them if there is to be a successful future to go along with the gloried past.

John,

NICE!!!

good tag line too

Just like a healthy diet "NO MSGr"

Academien,

Nice job in listing your students, Now get over yourself.

Amat kids attend or get accepted to the 4 year college level as well as anyone. The difference with Loyola is, the parents and their check books. Many of Amat graduates get accepted to major universities but do not go because of the financial burdon. You must remember that the average Amat graduate comes from a hard working blue collar group of parents. As for the Air Force Academy, look at the Amat Graduates that have attended or are attending at present time. Please do not put down the Amat education and what is done there to get ready for college. As I have said before, education is what you put into it.

As for your comment about Amat dropping down from D-1, Lets look back. The last two years were supposedly down years for Amat, right. Well as my memory serves me right Loyola went home the loosers. In my book, if the Mafia (CIF) wants to move Amat down than Loyola must move down first.

Msgr. Carroll must go!!!

Very nice cutting and pasting!

Since when did Loyola move their campus to the San Gabriel Valley?

It's funny that you had no other Anti-Amat ammo other than pirating Aram and info from Loyola's website...

Oh please do Servite next!

Bishop Mom,

Well put!!!!!

Amat is not for everyone, it is a sacrafice for many. Take a look at the days that volunteers are needed. I do not see low life people as Whale Hunter put it.

Msgr. Carroll, it's time to move on for the betterment of the school.

Hey Bluorca, I'm back to set you straight, yet again. You are such a sad little man. You spend so much time defending an ideal that no longer exists at a place called Amat. The Golden A is now severly tarnished. All your huffing and puffing will not change that fact. Your attempt to dispute keep it real was weak at best. Premier was used as an adjective and not a noun. I believe keep it real also gave multiple definitions under that premise. Good Job, KIR.

Second your stats clearly show that public schools have a better student to teacher ratio that Amat. So much for your constant downplay of public school education. See the thing is, I know whats going on in the SGV and out of it. You, however live in a bubble and that bubble has burst.

Outside of the SGV, in the real world that all of these kids will soon be a part of, Amat is no longer a blip on the radar. Other private schools in SoCal have true counseling departments, that matriculate almost all their kids into 4 year univeristies. That is worth the money, because that is supposed to be the benefit of a private school education. An example of this is to follow at the end. The sad part is while you're so busy pontificating, you sir are not doing anything to improve your beloved school.

Aram, himself admitted more goes on outside of the SGV than people want to admit.

"Also, I think it's kind of crap that so many people (I'm not saying you) would complain about all this when what takes place elsewhere, AKA Orange County, is much worse. And by worse, I don't mean illegal. I mean the turnover. This type of thing happens on a regular basis there. You want street addresses for the South Hills kids? Then give me the street addresses for the Mission Viejo kids.

Some of you would have your heads spin if you saw the changes in schools made by MULTIPLE high profile athletes down there. You guys just don't have the stomach for it. You guys crow about how the SGV is watered down and inferior to other areas ... why do you think that is? Yet when somebody does what they do all the time at Mission Viejo or OLu or Hart or city schools, you guys cry like babies. What's Bogan and North supposed to do? "No, Dorian. You go away."

It's well-known they want to have one of SoCal's top programs. Well, I hate to tell you, but this is how it happens. When guys leave certain schools, you hope they come to your place. And you don't turn them away if they do. That's how it's done almost everywhere else there's winning football, and that's how it's done here."

Posted by Aram at June 15, 2007 03:16 PM

Other schools, public and private, are doing what it takes to compete in and out of the classroom. They don't sit back and live on yesterday. They constantly strive to get better. Amat is not doing that. When Amat is out of D1 football, and it will happen, then what will you have? Nothing, because Amat has not developed anything else. Parents that do send their child to Amat, spend their hard earned dollar and should have a great, not average end result to show for it.

I, for one, am sorry I made the mistake of sending my child to Amat in an attempt to support the local community. Sports is not even the issue for my family. The old Amat is gone, all that is left is just hype. Please know they will not be back and will be attending Loyola next year.

Here's the info I promised.

Loyola HS Matriculation List, Class of 2007

ACADEMY OF ART UNIVERSITY

Christopher David Trull

AIR FORCE ACADEMY PREPARATORY SCHOOL

Justin Garfield Ecung

ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY

Joseph Michael Addante, Jr.

Garryl Rechard Bohanon, Jr.

Brandon Joseph Cruz

Austin Oliver Gray

Graham Gary Guldstrand

BARD COLLEGE

Brian Camilo Shewfelt

BOSTON COLLEGE

Christopher Battaglia

Ryan Patrick Cain

Michael William Ruddell

Lucas Anthony Sanchez

Daniel Christopher Schmitz

Michael James Shea

Spencer Alexander Ward-Bowen

Devon Quinn Zimmerman

BOSTON UNIVERSITY

Austin Daniel Collins

Gregory Mitchell Friedlander

BROWN UNIVERSITY

Joshua Rene Garcia

CAL POLY, POMONA

Jonathan Lance Angeles

Armando Ayala

Giancarlo Antonio Capra

Edward Joseph Castellanos

Rodney Leonard Davis

Jose Roman De La Cruz

Jordan Jay Dominguez

Gilberto Antonio Hernandez

Michael Belen Magcase

Chad Evan Massey

Phillip Michael Izunna Okonkwo

Andres Paul Jamiro Ramacho

Ryan Paul Smith

CAL POLY, SAN LUIS OBISPO

Anthony Ryan Benedicto

Justin Hummel Cotton

Dereck Francis Crouse

John Albert Cunningham

Nicholas Stephen Friedman

Joel Phillip Glen

Charles Keyes Hambleton

Matthew Taylor Ricard

Brian Myck Wayne

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

CHICO

Christian Dean Cooper

William Robert Gilmore

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

DOMINGUEZ HILLS

Carlos Dominguez, Jr.

Kevin Jovan Palma

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

FRESNO

Daniel Joseph Muno

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

FULLERTON

Adam Augustus Perez

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

LONG BEACH

Matthew Fauni Legaspi

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

NORTHRIDGE

Harold Nick Chavez

Justin Louis Hewlett-Bloch

Jaime Estuardo Peña

CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,

SACRAMENTO

Kenneth John O'Brien III

CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY

Jordan Samuel Sigman

CLAREMONT McKENNA COLLEGE

Jeffrey Alan Astor

CORNELL UNIVERSITY

Christopher Michael Guerrero

Mario Ricardo Rodriguez

Jeremy James Abeleda Vasquez

DARTMOUTH COLLEGE

Oliver James Romero

DOMINICAN UNIVERSITY

Timothy Adolph Meleck

DREW UNIVERSITY

Henry Bartholomew Paulin

EMBRY-RIDDLE AERONAUTICAL UNIVERSITY

Paul Thornton Isley IV

GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY

Abel Issiet Maharai

GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY

Thomas George Clifford

Andrew Robert Dubbins

Rocco Michael Ferrandino

Randall Warren Smith

GONZAGA UNIVERSITY

Robert Dabney Carr

HAMPTON UNIVERSITY

Davon Jerae Johnson

HARVARD COLLEGE

Charles James Paláu Hernández

HILLSDALE COLLEGE

Vytas Pranas Reivydas

HOLY CROSS COLLEGE

Matthew Joseph Harper

HOWARD UNIVERSITY

DeAndré Xavier Aubry

LAFAYETTE COLLEGE

Raphael E. Cuomo

LEHIGH UNIVERSITY

Nicholas Finnigan Vossler

LINDENWOOD UNIVERSITY

Holden Alexander Watne

LOYOLA COLLEGE, MARYLAND

Jaron Roark Fragner

LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY

Mitchell Robert Pascual Aguinaldo

Vladimir Stanley Alfaro

Leonardo Barrera, Jr.

Stefan Kyle Goyena Datuin

Joshua Louis Saldana Di Nieri

Sean Christopher Durkin

Rodolfo Eduardo Emilio Flores

Andrew Michael Freire

Alexander Bryant Gallegos

Anthony Ibrahim Khayat

Justin Buckles Masen

Michael Joseph McKinley

Axel D. Oliva

Andrew Christopher Page

Charles John Piechowski

Adrian Puyolt

Justen Castillo Quirante

Alex Chang Jae Roh

Nicholas Sadrpour

Kevan Tsi Loong Tseng

Daniel Villegas

Michael Newell Witte

LOYOLA UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO

James Francis Bass

MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY

Sean Patrick Howell

McGILL UNIVERSITY

Christopher Sean Coaloa

MOREHOUSE COLLEGE

Nicholas Kevin Dukes

Eric Christopher Holt

Malcolm Terrell Jordan

Jason Wes McKesson

NEW MEXICO MILITARY INSTITUTE

Bennett Doron Stuppy

NEW YORK UNIVERSITY

Sean Edmund Farrell

Nicholas George Poyner

Taylor Mackay Rolfe

NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY

John O'Connor Heintz

Ryan McMahon Jacobs

OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY

Bryan David Esser

PASADENA CITY COLLEGE

Jonathan Andrew Armour

Christopher Paul Dazé

PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY

Mitchell Sarmiento Juson

PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY

Christopher James Boucher

PITZER COLLEGE

Terrence James Raikes Bennett

Pablo Nicholas Veliz

POMONA COLLEGE

Edward William Cheyne Sayles

PRINCETON

Antonio Ramon Villaraigosa, Jr.

RICE UNIVERSITY

Brendan Cavanaugh Hayes

ST. JOHN’S UNIVERSITY

David Roger Thomas II

SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY

John Collins Wendel

SAINT MARY’S COLLEGE

William Storm Russell

SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY

James Gilbert Moe

Jonathan Marc Noonan

Michael Patrick Paletta

SAN JOSE STATE UNIVERSITY

Peter Tyler Diaz

Anthony Jesus Rivas

Elvis Damian-Ikenna Uzomah

SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY

Eric Andrew Ackerman

Collin Michael Burdick

David Thompson Burke

Karl M. Dupont

Kevin Roque Rodriguez Klasila

Patrick Vincent Migliazzo

John Michael Ospital

Nicolas Herriman Ukropina

Curtis Martin Wagner

Nicholas Philip Weiss

SANTA MONICA COLLEGE

Cesar Ascencio

Naader Bahadori

Seamus O'Shaughnessy Hayes

Robert James Luntzel

Elezhar Torrez

SEATTLE UNIVERSITY

Henry Andrew Garcia

Stephen Douglas Jackson

Mark Leandro Vargas

SETON HALL UNIVERSITY

Eduardo Garcia

SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY

Timothy Brittingham Violé

SOUTHWESTERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE

Ryan Augustus Nelson

STANFORD UNIVERSITY

Michael Mina Guirguis

Charlton Yap-Chong Soesanto

SWARTHMORE COLLEGE

Blaine David O'Neill

TEXAS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY

Ryan Robert Dalrymple

TRINITY UNIVERSITY

John Lawrence Paillet III

TULANE UNIVERSITY

James Ryan Stathatos

UNION COLLEGE

Kurt Armstrong Brimberry, Jr.

UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY

Rudyard Josef Viloria Dacquel

Rupert Charles Domingo

UNITED STATES NAVAL ACADEMY

Nicholas Connor Dunn

Nico Casadei Roe

UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA

Patrick William Drolet

William Robert Martin

Gerardo Alfonso Rodriguez

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BERKELEY

Joshua Colin Brown

Christopher Michael Conte

Michael Cameron Floyd

Alexander Bondad Gidaya

William Joseph Habeeb

Conor Patrick Hearn

Dylan James Metzger

E. J. Schloss

Luis Carlos Vite

Dylan James Westhoff

Christopher Ho-Won Woo

Michael Tesauro Young

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS

Michael Gregory Casalenuovo

Derick William Felsman

Christopher George Michail

John William Miller

Alexander Edward Morelan III

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IRVINE

Richard-Robin Nolasco Amador

Akash Pravin Bhakta

Michael Christopher Borgese

Aleksander Chan

Anthony Rohit Dawson

Jamil Enrique Devers

Albert Nathan Jose

James Patrick Manegdeg Lee

Eric Gilbert Miguel

Patrick Ng

Daniel Vinh Nguyen

Jeremy Joseph Bolido Zapanta

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES

Ashim Ahuja

Peter Chyun

Jonathan Lewis Clark IV

Christian Eduardo Estrada

Michael Armen Kezian

Andrew Delaney O'Connor

Thomas Lyle Proctor

Luke Ryan Ramsey

Christian Anthony Rotunno

Joseph Michael Schwartz

Bryant Joseph Shim

Nan Yang

Fady Youssef

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE

Mark Anthony Hall, Jr.

Nicolas Valencia

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN DIEGO

Patrick Michael French

Sean Mutsumi Laughlin

Patrick Keller Reischl

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SANTA BARBARA

Reynaldo Macaroncio Alvarez

Josef Gerhard Behrens

Andrew Joseph Bitar

Kenneth Franklin Cantarero

Michael Anthony DiMartino

Bennett Alexander Baig Duval

Niklas Erik Eriksson

Mark Robert Xavier Galonska

Kevin Francis Kuhn

Brendan Michael Lafranchi

Eric Stanley Larson

Christopher Heath Newman

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SANTA CRUZ

Vincent Bartholomew Masto

John Thomas Maxwell II

Nolan Robert McCormick

UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO

Paul Gonzales Cabot

Julian Michael LaFarge

UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO, BOULDER

Christopher John Curphey

Christopher Peter Godefroy

Matthew Ryan Kinsella

UNIVERSITY OF DENVER

Jeffrey Vincent Fairbank

Vincent Matthew Girardi

UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII

Peter McGonigle Wenner

UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN

John Boyle Bryan

Kenneth Michael Mirch III

UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME

John David Ahearn

Ryan Clay Hawley

William Scott McIntosh

Henry Hayter Short

Scott Michael Whalen

UNIVERSITY OF OREGON

Stuart Ross Klipp

UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA

Hascal Othello Humes III

UNIVERSITY OF PORTLAND

Christopher Edward Carcich

UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS

Alexander Charles Alders

Joseph Manual MacMillan

Jonathan Henry Petrovich

Christian Zeis Romberger

Timothy John Sanders

UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER

Andrew Shawn Moran

UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO

Christopher James Blay

Conor Joseph Pastore

UNIVERSITY OF SAN FRANCISCO

Jose Paolo Baroma

Brendan Michael Maher

UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

Taylor Saralegui Berry

Douglas John Brown

Stephen George Brown

Andrew Michael Bushe

Alexander Aaron Camara

Jonathan Daniel Cathcart

Lawrence James Escamilla

James William Hirschmann IV

Matthew William Holz

James Albert Kasar

Trent Eric Ross Ketterer

Brandon Alexander Nava Knechtle

Derek Valdeiglesias Lazo

Jamison Wyatt Loos

Daniel Joseph Lopez

Kellen Nichols McGraw

Lawrence Bernard McKinney

Brian Warren Olson

Marcus McIntyre Payne

Victor Manuel Pérez, Jr.

Christopher Reed Perkins

Christopher Raul Rivera

Jan Miroslaw Smogorzewski

Jesse Solorzano

William Francis Teebay

Mark Frederick Thomas

VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY

Richard Landon Giss

VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY

Alexander Patrick Behm

Jeffrey Michael Bell

Nicholas Francis Cipiti

Luke Haro Jimenez

Matthew Nawrocki

WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY

Brian Padraic Civale

XAVIER UNIVERSITY

Brian Joseph Fissinger

YALE UNIVERSITY

Joseph Edward Porter IV

Christopher Jonathan Stanley

UNDECIDED

James Alexander Doherty

Daniel Francis Wendt

Nicholas Gabriel Widmann

I challenge you, Bluorca to compare Amat's list to this, if they even have one.

And here is a little more about what goes on outside of the SGV.

College Stats

Type of School: Loyola High School of Los Angeles, founded in 1865, is an all-male, four-year, Catholic college preparatory school conducted by the Society of Jesus (Jesuits). Typically, 99% of the graduates go directly
to higher education, 96% to four-year colleges. Current enrollment is 1214, including a senior class of 291.

Faculty: Loyola's ninety-three faculty members and administrative staff all hold professional degrees. The entire staff includes seven faculty members at the doctoral level and sixty at the master's level. Student to teacher ratio is 13:1

Accreditation and Memberships: Western Association of Schools and Colleges, Western Catholic Educational Association, Jesuit Secondary Education Association, National Catholic Education Association, The College Board, The Cum Laude Society, National Association of College Admission Counselors, National Forensic League

School Community: Loyola is located in central Los Angeles and draws students from every area in the city and suburbs. Admission is by entrance examination, personal interview, recommendations, and elementary school grades. Typically, 130 elementary schools, public and private, are represented in a freshman class drawn from an applicant pool representing over 235 schools. Approximately 40% of those who apply are enrolled. Loyola's tuition is low compared to other private schools ($8,300 in 2005-2006). The Jesuit faculty contribution, endowment, financial aid, and fund-raising programs enable Loyola to attract students from a wide variety of economic and social backgrounds. Some 47% of the students are Latino, African-American, Asian, or Filipino. Loyola's community is distinguished and enriched by this wide social, economic, and ethnic diversity. Curriculum: The basic program required of all students includes eight semesters each of English and social studies; six semesters each of mathematics and foreign language; six semesters of theology; five semesters of laboratory science; and one semester of fine arts. One hundred and thirty-five hours of community service are required (Fifty hours in the sophomore or junior year and an 85 hour immersion program in January of the senior year).

This is the true definition of money well spent on education. Definitely worth your child's future.
I truly hope Amat gets there one day.

Year in and out kids leave Amat for one reason or another, just like all private schools. This year you may have a few more than regular but some are for a good reason. It is about time the hammer has been put down.

Amat is one of the finest academic institutions in the Southern California area, that can not be denied. Education is what you put into it.

The thing that I am seeing is, a lot of bashing from people that have no clue of what Amat offers.

On the other end of the spectrum, what happened this past month should not have happened in any high school. Some people are saying that it was off campus so there is nothing that Amat should have done, WRONG, they did the right thing. It is about time Amat has done the right thing. I still think that Msgr. Carroll should step down, he is the one that let this kind of stuff go untouched in the past and get out of control.

Msgr. Carroll must go!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whale Hunter,

You have got to be the lowest of the lowest. Calling out us parents as Lowlifes Cholos and drunks is taking it too far. This blog is about sports and Bluorca was talking about Acedemic comparisons not parents backgrounds. The fact that Bishop Amat is in La Puente does not make us Lowlifes. We are parents that are professional people in their jobs and I know the rap on us is what you mentioned as Cholos and Drunks but the truth of the matter is I dont think a Drunk or a Cholo could afford to send his kid financially to Amat. This hate comes from people like you that have no sense but to bad mouth us for some unruly fans that follow our program. We take the hit for our fans behavior I know and I have seen it before so you are right there. To label the parents of this proud and Christian loving Campus is down right low of you. We donate to our program , we sacrifice our time and hard earn dollars. We are not all rich and have our nose stuck up in the air. We are hard working Joe's just like public school parents...Allot hate on us because we send our kids to private HS...if you only knew how much of a sacrifice we make to pay that tuition for our children to get a private school education. I do not knock the public parents they are living the same lives we Private school parents live..it is not that big of differance. So take another look at what you said about us Amat parents and know your facts before you label us..Over a football blog this hate comes out..over football players and won loss records this turns into jealousy which in turn turns into kid and parent bashing. The Yankees fans hate the Red Sox fans and the Cowboys hate the Redskins and Dodgers hate the Giants and the Raiders fans hate everyone but to bring that mentality to the HS level is crazy. We are talking kids and parents here who are trying to be and create good citizens in this world. Sit back and think about what you just wrote and if you are a adult shame on you and if you are kid shame on your parents for instilling hate in you....all over a school or sports program...how low is that?

Bluorca as usual you are a blowhard and one of the reasons why people love to pull the "Amat hater me" string.

Put Damien/St. Lucy's/Pomona Catholic together and they blow Bishop Amat out of the water on the field, in the pool, in the classroom, with college placement and AP student participation. Add to that the level of safety on campus, the lack of explusions and the overall lack of drunks, cholos and lowlifes in the stands and Bishop Amat really starts to pale against ANY CATHOLIC SCHOOL, MUCH LESS A PRIVATE SCHOOL. COED OR NOT!

Look up the meaning of class, dignity and integrity and you will be no where in sight. Next time anyone goes to an Amat event ask yourself where the Victory Outreach Center is at?

Blowhard.

See Ya:

Do u mean left or Kicked out ? 5 on the list were asked to leave ! 4 on the list did not even start or see the field last year !

Keeping It Real

Again...you try and continue to fail miserably...

1. Premier also means a Prime Minister or a Chief Officer as a noun. As an adjective, premier is often used as a synonym of "leading" or "head." This is not ego...it's fact. But I'll get to this in a bit. And Amat Parent was not using this word as an age reference...This was obvious but I guess ya missed that.

2. The average student to teacher RATIOS in California...

Public 16:1
Private 19:1
Private(Catholic) 23:1
Bishop Amat 19:1 (4 less than average!)

Again...you try to spit venom, but your sacs are filled with saline. Amat has a better ratio than most Catholic High Schools in California.

3. Students go to Amat for Amat's history as well as their own future. And let me tell you something you obviously do not know...

The graduation requirements of Amat match the admissions requirements of every Cal State and UC Universities. At a public school, students have to plan well ahead of time, sign up, and take the appropriate classes if they want to attend a Cal- based University. At Bishop Amat, it's automatic. Its student's number of electives courses is extremely limited in comparison to public schools. It's not uncommon at all to hear Amat students complain that they do not get enough electives. But it's not electives that get you into universities, it's admissions requirements.

With that said, your claim that other SGV schools send out just as many students to universities is completely false. And what about student athletes? They are subject to the same curriculum as the rest of the population at Amat. Again, just by graduating high school, they automatically qualify for universities. Again, your claim that "No real student athlete will see a future for themselves at Amat if they have aspirations beyond high school" is completely untrue and ignorant. If anything, the opposite is true in that if an athlete wants to better their chances of being accepted into a university it would be wise that they attend Amat.

Drug activity and violent gang-related crimes are on the rise in the SGV. Education in the SGV as a whole is in a decline. And while the number of students that attend Amat and actually go to universities has slightly declined, the SGV as a whole is in academic trouble. Someone on here stated that almost 1/3rd of Amat's students go to JCs....That means almost 2/3rds go on to universities. This number is staggering when compared to the rest of the SGV. It would be completely moronic to claim that any SGV public school could even come close to those numbers. This is fact and not an opinion.

Damien....

Damien is a great academic institution but it's also an "all boys" school. Traditionally, "all boys" or "all girls" schools do better academically than co-ed. Damien, St. Lucys, Loyola, etc. send more of their kids to university than Mater Dei, Amat, and Santa Margarita. The opposite sex can be a huge distraction from pure academics and it's unfair to compare the co-eds with the "all b/g" schools. As far as tuition costs are concerned, Damien and Amat are a lot more affordable than their sister schools as Amat Parent has stated.

So let's KEEP IT REAL...

We know you are not from Damien or you would have already said so....So what school do you represent? Because it is you that is delusional or a flat out liar when it comes to comparing academics and/or athletics. Your very statement that other SGV schools are right on par with Amat academically pretty much sums up your vast knowledge of what is going on here in the SGV. You have so much hate for something you know nothing about. You are starting to sound like someone (or their kid) that got rejected from Amat admissions and now you are taking it out on Amat but stooping as low as attacking Amat's academics! hahahaha! Poor you! I will pray for you and your family...And another thing...

You should all spend less time talking trash about Amat's football program and spend more time on here trying to get your coaches to schedule Bishop Amat. If it's one thing this blog has lacked it's the number of people from other schools actually calling for a friday night lights game against the Lancers. But this will not happen because most of you haters have trouble even claiming what high school you represent let alone scheduling the "lowly" Lancers....

Love,
The Blowhard

I hear more to follow in the AMAT mass exodus...are they FN nutz.?

list of this years eligible players that have left Amat:
Johnny Crespo CHARTER OAK
Bryce McBride LOSALTOS
Seanez LOSALTOS
Maciel LOS ALTOS
Tillis LOS ALTOS
Wells SO HILLS
Bradford Ray SO HILLS
Iwai SO HILLS
Kevin Bonilla CHINO HILLS
Sermons D'RANCH
Adams D'RANCH
LOYA CHARTER OAK

More to come maybe.

Add these to Amats current roster and you now have a legit team. UH! TOO BAD!

Amat parent lets educate you for a moment....

First quote"Bishop Amat Memorial High School is the premier high school in the SGV."

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

premier

SYLLABICATION: pre·mier
PRONUNCIATION: pr-mîr, -myîr, prmîr
ADJECTIVE: 1. First in status or importance; principal or chief. 2. First to occur or exist; earliest.

Lets see, 1)first in status or importance. Well, there's that Amat ego again. 2)first to occur or exist. Older definitely does not equate to better.

Next quote "Largest in LA County". that may be true, but that would also have a negative affect on your student to teacher ratio, which in turn affects the quality of learning. Hmmmm.....that could be a problem. Bigger is not better in this case.

"Does anyone really think that few kids leaving Amat is going to diminish the history and tradition that Amat will always have to offer?"

In one word, yes!!! Students don't go to a school for its history, they go for their future. No real student athlete will see a future for themselves at Amat if they have aspirations beyond high school.

"Amat will continue to place students in schools such as Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, USC, UCLA, UC Berkeley, and Boston University, just to name a few, in numbers greater than any school in the SGV."

With this statement you are either delusional or a flat out liar. Other local schools are putting out as many kids to the same schools you have mentioned.

Your loyalty is commendable, but not justified.

The fact remains that Bishop Amat Memorial High School is the premier high school in the SGV. Amat continues to rank as the largest private school in Los Angeles County. This is by no accident. Parents send their children to Amat for more than just sports. Does anyone really think that few kids leaving Amat is going to diminish the history and tradition that Amat will always have to offer? Amat will continue to place students in schools such as Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, USC, UCLA, UC Berkeley, and Boston University, just to name a few, in numbers greater than any school in the SGV. Let’s not overlook the fact that Bishop Amat is the only school in the Los Angeles Archdiocese that offers the International Baccalaureate Program, the most prestigious program beyond AP programs.
Additionally, when you talk about the other private schools and tuition rates, here are some facts: La Salle $10,824, Loyola $10,670, Crespi $9,950, St. Francis $9,740, Notre Dame $9,700, Santa Margarita $10,050, Mater Dei $9,950, Rosary $9,724. For my investment why wouldn’t I send my child to Amat?

Hey, by the way, as KEEPING IT REAL POSTED : “Heck, Damien has a better matriculation rate and they are right hear in the SGV”, I think someone needs to tell him the difference between “hear” and “here”, but then he probably went to Damien.

Straight talk is right on the money with that take. In addition, the academics at Amat have slipped as well. Why pay $5000 for your kid to have a 1 in 3 chance to end up at a JC. You have justa s good odds of your kid making it straight to a 4 year college going to a public school. These Amat guys may get upset, but they know they dont compete with the other D1 private schools in the classroom either. Heck, Damien has a better matriculation rate and they are right hear in the SGV.

Here's one of the biggest reasons why Bishop Amat has had soooooo many player leave and the untold story of Catholic 8th graders that no longer see Bishop Amat as an academic powerhouse and therefore do not attend Bishop Amat. Why pay $5600 dollars to be a nobody on campus while the athletes run the show? No thank you I'll wait for College for that experience!

The perception is that Bishop Amat is a sports program. Anyone reading this blog will see the level of classless individuals that have hijacked Bishop Amat. They hate the uniforms, the coaches, the lack of this the importance of that...the kids that fight, the coaches that suck, and never once do any Amat bloggers give the impression that going to Bishop Amat will be pleasant for the kids OR the parents. It's the 3 B's: Bullies, blowhards and boneheads.

South Hills, Damien, La Salle, Crespi, Servite, Arcadia, Diamond Bar and Chino Hills offer more bang for the buck. Face it Bishop Amat did a poor job in the image department. When you spend your time focusing on a "four year LIFE" you lack the skills of being anything more than a BMOC that never grew up.

Bishop Amat may have a fine academic program but how would anyone know? Bluorca and MATMTWTBAG are endemic of the "new" Bishop Amat parent..all brag and no brains. That's the real reason parents pay good money to go to private school. That and the "yank" it has with college recruiters. Good luck this season BIshop Amat if you go 2-8 it will be Pius X, Mt. Carmel and Pater Noster. And what was their record this year?

This Amat crumbling makes for a good story....Aram needs to visit or call Verti and set the record straight on what is happening to his program...This is a strange year for Bishop Amat players , parents and fans....someone needs to shed some light on this once proud schools demise.

Amat Insider,

Any names? are they key players?......this is real disturbing to me, because it all looked good going into this season with what was coming back including Wells and then it all started to unravel.....Without the race card and the Monsignor slams what is really the reason these kids are leaving? Verti's lack of experience? Coaching staffs lack of experience? Players are now sensing the slow downfall and want to get out while there is still time to transfer and get to practice with their new team of choice? What is the truth to this Amat team and do they even care?

There are even more Amat players and families wanting out. This is far from over. WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!!!!

Quinley will forgive but he will not forget.

Amat is dead and thru...with everyone that has left the program voluntarily or not voluntarily it is in shambles. Lots of their soon to be Juniors will have to step up to make it respectable...The core superstar seniors are the ones that left. So like last year Amat now has a depleted Senior class playing for them and Juniors starting for them to help make it respectable.........but even with that I would be surprised if they win 1 game...that one win is most likely Alameny.......the rest of that schedule should beat them...anything after 1 win is a accomplishment this year.....Crespi and Notre Dame are going to damage them even worse this year...no playoffs if you lose 2 in the Serra.....4 years in a row no playoffs for Amat..unheard of......but this is what it has become and the future is not looking any better....is it that hard for Amat to accept this and move down.......the baseball team did it and look what it got them...

If Amat is not dead this year after all of this, then it is most certainly on life support...............CLEAR:::::::::..............

baseball too again at June 18, 2007

I guess you love all these hits for football!

Have a hot dog, sit back and enjoy reading!

Your a complete baseball nerd! LOL

Go Football

Your craking me up!

"baseball too again"

ESAD

baseball too again at June 18, 2007

Your the loser! Move on you jerk!

Baseball is over! Who cares about your ass!

I read this blog. You sound like a bunch of males that don't get any and this is your only place to release your tension. Is this blog the real thing?? Ummmmm....NO! Is Aram a real man??? You tell me!
Get a life!! Go to the gym,workout and get rid of those big ol' bellies! You know, the ones that came after your college dreams were crushed!!

Hot rumor:

Bishop Amat just filed a request for exemption into CYO. Although some schools have organized a protest the request is being seriously considered. Although Father Nevermind did say unlike CIF, CYO does allow drinking in the parking lot which made the move by Bishop Amat a logical fit.

St. John the Baptist and Our Lady of Blue Whales contend that Bishop Amat may be the early favorite but "that's why the games are played. And on any given Thrursday...".

CIF although contacted for this story had no comment...although I did hear loud giggling in the background. More on this breaking news as updates come in.

Amat 73, I like totally get what you mean about getting something because of "who you are". I like mean to say that who ares if you get something you don't deserve ? You still "are" who you "are right? Like "that is so hot!"

Paris Hilton

Amat just merged with Bassett...Amat needs all the help they can get........

Amat.."we are Amat" you "are"? What is an "are"?

That comment in and of itself is mind numbingly so full of itself as to reduce my comeback to shreds.

"WE ARE AMAT"...well you "are" not "ARE" anymore...or as Jack Sparrow would say....arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh !

BREAKING NEWS:
ART MODELL HAS JUST MOVED BISHOP AMAT TO BALTIMORE!!

Smile you goofs! People take this blog too damn seriously!

BREAKING NEWS:
ART MODEL HAS JUST MOVED BISHOP AMAT TO BALTIMORE!!

Smile you goofs! People take this blog too damn seriously!

Baseball gurist,
We made the list because of who we are . We are AMAT and like it or not that carries alot of stature regardless of what divison we are in. At least we are bringing some respect to the SGV by us making the list and I do feel a few of our SGV teams should have been on the list also like Charter Oak to name one.

Baseball guy at June 18, 2007

Get off this tread too

What a joke!

Bluorca you did sneak in because you beat the #22 team by 1 "run" and almost lost in the Championship Game.

Yes you won but really you did not beat or "compete" with anyone on that list.

Futhermore if Bishop Amat would have been in Div I were they tell everyone they belong they would have been smoked long before the semis if they made the playoffs at all. That's the point. I call that a G.I.F.T. Now go back and figure some clever way to explain why you are the ONLY Div. 5 team in the Top 25?

Hey all,
I totally get that it is now FOOTBALL TIME but can we give BASEBALL it's final due respects!!!! Where and When will ALL LEAGUE AND ALL VALLEY AND EVEN ALL CIF kids be given their props? I know who made it from our school but am just as curious and excited for the other kids from our other schools. Come on Aram, it's clear you are a football guy but be fair man... Next messages are going daily to the management team. Who the hell got MVP. Not cool man, oh but thanks for mentioning MENS VOLLEYBALL -- what up?

Northview might have made the list if they had beaten Crescenta Valley (LA Times #22). The Vikings lost 1-0 and also lost to Amat (#11) 6-2. Amat would go on and beat Crescenta Valley as well by a point in the championship game of the Glendora tournament. Crescenta Valley also defeated # 9 Mater Dei 2x during the regular season.

Charter Oak did not play anyone on the list but they might have not made the list because they lost to Rubidoux, Glendora, and Monrovia....These 3 teams all lost to Amat.

Monrovia also did not play anyone on the list but they may have not made the list because they lost to Northview as well as Amat.

Although many would believe that any of the above teams could play in a close contest with one another, when it comes to rankings, comparing scores plays a huge part in determining final rankings. No one sneaked in anywhere on this list.

SGV FAN , yeah I saw that as well. That issue is over but the truth stays the same. G.I.F.T.
Also did you notice that NO SGV team other than Bishop Amat even made the Top 25? Did you notice as well that LB WILSON playing in DIV I was the National Champion?

14 of the Top 25 were from Div I.(1, 2, 3, 4 was a City team Chatsworth), 5, 7, 8, 9 Mater Dei, 10, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18 and 23.

9 of the top 25 were from Div II (6 Vista Murrieta, 12, 15, 19, 20, 21, 22 and at 25 Chino.

Yes Loyola at number 24 in Division III.

And then sneaking in at number 11 is Bishop Amat. What would Bishop Amat done in the playoffs in Div I or Div II? We'll never know.

Too bad for Monrovia. Back to Back CIF Championship rings must look awesome.

SGV is Baseball Country :

Final LA Times Baseball Poll:

Bishop Amat ranked 11th, only team from DIV & DV ranked in poll. Loyola only team in DIII ranked 24th. Co & Northview get no love ???

fred what happened to coach lopez from marshall, la canada & la salle. i here he is coaching again but no one is talking. he coached all three of my sons and he is a great coach. he used to hold youth football camps and supported everthing football do you have any info on him. thanks

First practice is June 22 at Baldwin Park HS ... I think it's at 5 p.m. I'll get a schedule up soon.

Does anyone know when the Hall of Fame Game will begin practices and where?

That should be fun to see some of the SGV's best on the same team.

Aram,

Your right about OC & LA counties being football country. That's why your blog should talk more about the positives of SGV baseball. More professional baseball players have come from SGV then probably any other place in the country.

Let's talk more about the positive things that the Charter Oak & Amat coaches & players have done this past year.

With the exception of all the Amat bashing, your blog has started to be more positive towards the players & coaches of the valley. Keep it up.

Hey Aram,
now that Nifong was disbarred and the North Carolina attorney general said the Duke Lacrosse players were "innocent," do you think Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will apoligize for branding the players guilty before any of the facts came out? It seems there's a HUGE double standard here. Sharpton comes out to LA to protest Paris Hilton's "preferential treatment," but don't think there's anything wrong with all the false labels they throw out. What a couple of racist hypocrits. I sure hope you tackle this.
James

Frecking Mike the clone you crack me up man. Memories of all things didn't like Elvis sing that song like back in the 50's. Mikey you do have a sense of humor that's for sure. As Vic the brick Jacobs would say you are man amongst men Clone.So I'm feeling you Mr.Clone.That whole Nisha admiration thing was a nice change of pace and a total crack up.
Feeeeling U my brother and laughing the whole time too.

re: Transfers.

The consensus seems to be that most transfers occur due to "recruiting". Is there any thought that maybe the kids are interested in going to a different school other than their neighborhood school. In reality, most kids don't have a say on where they live.

If your son/daughter went to a school where the school, administration, and community don't emphasize the importance of high school athletics wouldn't you want your son/daughter to seek other opportunities. I've seen plenty of times where schools hire coaches that are completely underqualified for the job. Administrations that fail to lead their students towards college. And communities that outright just don't care. You're only young once and why not seek an opportunity to flourish in an environment where you're coached and play against the best. Where the administration leads kids to college, and where the community stands behind their school in support of their athletics.

the sgv sucks anyways. the best team they have is a team that is in the pac 5 and about to go 1-9. and there other teams are in D6. give me a break, when you can hang with tha big boys in D1.

Mike I met Dan from West Covina and you could not ask for a nicer ,more positive school backer. I met Bowdoin dad from South Hills as well and he was very positive about "everything South Hills", just like Randy from Diamond Bar. I've also met Austin's dad from Bishop Amat and shared a couple of "you really thin so's" regarding how well I think his son will do.

But somehow I've always missed you? Maybe I'll meet you some day, (I promise not to blow your cover) and get to finally see that football mind at work.

Here's an idea: Post the passing league schedules of local schools or post the local tournaments where SGV schools meet OC schools so we can ALL see the budding stars before the pads come on.

What do you say Aram? Any chance of posting those events?

Thanks Dan.....

I just thought it was time to break away from this past couple of weeks of Amat bashing.

What crap with everyone piling on.

Thought I'd lighten it up a little.

Thanks for "getting it"

Out!

Mike the Clone

Greetings I am Mike the Clone and you are NOT!

Gentleman today I come to you with a heavy heart. For I have learned that my favorite Female (Notice I said "Female", Aram) SGVNG Reporter Nisha Gutierrez has left the paper for a Television gig in COLD FRIGID Idaho.

So let’s put a side all this bickering over who is playing here and who is leaving there just for the day. There are more pressing issues here. The loss of one of the most beautiful and talented woman to grace any in newsroom of the San Gabriel Valley.

I knew something was up when the Web cast was dropped but I have been so busy I just figured Nisha was on vacation. I am just crushed with this news.

I have summon one of the Bagpipers from “Bagpiper U” to come to the house and play “Scotland the Brave” for me just to ease the pain in my heart and give me a pick me up.

So Nisha you beautiful child of God, I wish you good luck in your new endevours in COLD Idaho. You were the jewel of my weekday mornings and I hope when you hit it big in a major market you remember yours truly Mike the Clone the guy who brought you some attention from some of these honks in King Tolegians kingdom. Some of these guys never read the paper other than the sports section until I introduced them to your smiling face.

So in your honor Nisha I wanted to post the lyrics to the song “Memories” in honor of you:

Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind
Memories, sweetened through the ages just like wine

Quiet thoughts come floating down
And settle softly to the ground
Like golden autumn leaves around my feet
I touched them and they burst apart with sweet memories,
Sweet memories

Of holding hands and red bouquets
And twilights trimmed in purple haze
And laughing eyes and simple ways
And quiet nights and gentle days with you

Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind
Memories, sweetened through the ages just like wine,
Memories, memories,

Of holding hands and red bouquets
And twilights trimmed in purple haze
And laughing eyes and simple ways
And quiet nights and gentle days with you

Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind
Memories, sweetened through the ages just like wine
Memories, memories, sweet memories, memories...

Someone here stated once that you were a Bishop Amat Alum, You see guys there really are good things coming out of Amat!

So in closing and as the self appointed President of the Nisha Gutierrez fan club again I wish you the best and only regret I never asked you for a signed 8x10 glossy. (Aram work on that will ya, and send it to my office….laughing).

But in all seriousness, thanks for being a good sport in putting up with the Clones silliness and the best of luck to you always and remember us little guys here in the blog.

With a heavy heart!

I am out!

Late!

Mike the Clone

I suppose I am so biased toward football that I missed that bit. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Hang in there Mike the clone,
time heals all wounds, my condolances.

Feelin U,

She made LA Observed? Dang! I know this blog is linked off of LA Observed, so I thought I was the only big time person in the office. Notice how they didn't put my mug on there!!!

New York, how in the hell can you be still talking about transfers when Aram has broken the cold hard facts that Mike the Clone's favorite reporter Nisha Gutierrez is leaving for Idaho.
I am sure that once the Clone hears about this he will be heart broken.
Once Nisha made headlines with LA Observed, we knew she was going places.
Poor Mikey I will break it to him gently.
Feeling U Clone

Transfers are not always good for the receiving high school. High profile guys look good on paper, but things don't always pan out. If you are Bogan or Gano and are accustomed to integrating talented transfers into your team and system, then it will likely work out. However, sometimes a high profile guy can come in and cause turmoil by beating out some kid who was slated to start. Then that kid's teamates get agitated and things unravel at practice.

Separtely, whether Wells was rightfully or wrongfully kicked out of Amat, I highly doubt that any other Catholic school would have taken him in anyway. How would that look to the school that would take him in? They would be undercutting one of their own. Can you imagine if he had transferred into Damien? Then Damien would be known as the school with ethics standards lower than Amat (even if the situation was not legite).

Politics, politics, politics. I'm a Monrovia guy, but I do believe in the free market. I feel that the markets will correct themselves eventually. We did not need the Fed to raise interest rates, the market took care of it. If enough athletes start vacating districts, then ultimately the districts will create a more appealing atmosphere. And if they don't, then why should a kid stick around in a situation that is not ideal simply because that is where his parents live. Some decisions are out of the kids control. The local high school is not always the best fit for a kid. Damn right it would be nice if every athlete who grew up in Monrovia wanted to stick around, but it's not for everybody. We get transfers too (kids who don't want to be elsewhere). It is what it is.

The most important thing is that somewhere along the lines these kids build character while having the chance to compete in a sport they love.

Mike The Clone,

Nope, some other guy is getting "fanned" with "Ms. Liz." I think I speak for all of us in wishing her nothing but the best.

So, with that said, the natural move would be to take my swings with Nisha ... but, she's moving to Idaho for a TV gig. We wish her luck. She wants to do TV and Idaho is where she'll start. Hopefully she's back here someday on Channel 4 telling us who got robbed or shot.

Nick your out of control............that's uncalled for. Knock it off.

This is the Big Leagues we don't need you yearlings talking smack like that here.

Mike the Clone

A.T.,

I hear your on vacation for three weeks....dude how in the hell are you scooping all the happenings going on in the ESGV, are you sitting poolside somewhere in the tropics with "Lovely Liz" with the busboys fanning you and saying...."Is there anything else I can get you Mr.Tolegian and Ms. Liz?"

Hey man enjoy the vacation! I know it's hard but dude in the immortal words of Don Ho....."Suck 'em Up"

I'm sure Freddie can monitor and turn the blog into the powder puff league for a couple of weeks (at least he admits he's soft) like the Star-News then we can grind it out again when you return.

Oh wait these hacks are slamming everyone....

Oh well have a great vacation "Big Guy" and recharge the "batts" because as you can see it's getting hot in here.

Late!

Mike the Clone

P.S. Dude what's up with the daily Nisha? When you get back you better tell the suits the Clone say's .................FOUL

Aram you are exactly right on the point that this same thing happens to a bigger extent in the O.C amoung other places...I have two reasons why I am not speaking about those places....

First is those places are much bigger then the SGV so fo course it happens to a much bigger extent...Secondly and more importantly is the reason people talk about the South Hills and LA's of the world is beacuse they are in our back yard.

I am fully aware of the pillaging that good 'ol Bob Johnson does on San Clemente high school every year...and he is part of the problem...

You ask what North and Bogan are to do? I'll tell you how about have some sort of morals and understand that this is not a win at all cost situation. Or how about tell the kid "you know what son unless you move into our district you are ineligible for one year." Your boy Freddie brought this point up to me when we were having our little border war. "....they are not professional athletes or even big time college altheltes." With that said dont we have a bigger obligation to these students-athlets.

Oh and dont tell me that there are no coachs that would do this. I know quite a few that believe they are not only trying to win football games but also teach what it takes to be a productive and honest citizen.

There is something to be said about being honest and loyal in this world.

The problem is not kids transfering schools (i have know problem with a kid choosing whatever school he wants to attend as an incoming freshmen) but do it by the rules that CIF has set forth. You cannot tell me that South HIlls or the LA's of the world have done it in this manner. Cause I know this is flat out not true...and you are kidding yourself if you think differently...there are two many circumstances where questions have come up about these schools and some others like them to not believe they may be doing something wrong.

Chief War Legend Speaks.

Aram & Joe Amat,
you guy's are right on target on this one.
South Hills staff is not that stupid. Their not going to risk a potentially great season such as this, especially with such a high profile transfer like Wells. It will be done according to
CIF rules, and CIF will enforce this one.
The Wells family may bend the rules but they won't break them. Like Joe Amat said, they will
set a very high price on their house so that nobody will buy, move into an apartment for the season, eat a few months of rent and mortgage payments, and get a scholarship for their son, a totally legal process.
Like Aram said, how could you blame South Hills
for this, whoever does is a hypocrite cause I can't think of any school that would turn him away, Heck I wish our West Covina Bulldogs could be so fortunate as to get a transfer like this.
[Wells if your reading this come on over, lol]
Monrovia Cat and Clueless,
no offense but how does his picking S,Hills over St, Francis equate to recruting, I think its like a poster mentioned earlier, the Wells family knows S.Hills will have one of the better passing teams around, and some pretty good QB's to go with it, even though they are the WC. Bulldogs
arch rival I still can't blame them on this one.

Why do you people create such a circus concerning the expulsion of a football player because of some dumb lame violation. Hell I'm doing 45 uhhh 23 days of hard time probably for doing something you know what......less stupid.

Greetings

I am Mike the Clone and you are Not!

Just wanted you all to know that while your all hemming and hawwing about this school and that school. The kids at "Bagpiper U" are going about their business as usual with no transfered superstars but with hard working, dedicated, kids that just love the game and want to just enjoy for most of them, their last time at "suiting up" and making that one good stick.

You guys can go on about who's playing here and there, I'll be just happy to see these GHS kids do the best they can with what they have.

I know now-a-days so much rides on "schollies" and I realize so much is at stake for college bound athletes. I remember the recruiting process which frankly is just plain stressfull.

After watching the blog this past week, Man I'm so glad that I'm a "Bagpiper".

Before I pull out my button I better stop......

Glendora your nothing but class!

I AM OUT!

Mike the Clone

Just so you don't get confused, it wasn't Joe Amat that made the religion comment - it was " Local Address ".

The posters name is *below* the post not above it

North has no control over anything that happens at south hills. when stuff happens she lets it slide by because the people that get in trouble are always athletes. we have had people steal from coaches and key their cars. nothing happens. if one of those emo kids keyd someones car they would get suspended for a very long time. I think its funny what "Joe Amat" said about football winning out over religion. 100 percent true!!!

Why does he have to move?.......if Monrovia is no good for him what is wrong with Duarte or Pasadena schools.

Clueless you truly are, check the API scores on those schools they are no better than Monrovia the other schools are in the ESGV.

South Hills did nothing wrong. His PARENTS made the best decission for THEIR CHILD.

And I guarnatee you that CIF is fully aware of this high profile tranfer and will not let Dorian play ANYWHERE if it is not legit.

Joe Amat,

You nailed it.

Clueless,

It is a CIF rule that in order to be eligible, minus some hardship, when you transfer you MUST have a valid change of address (ie: you must physically move) **no matter what school** you want to attend. So why not go to the best one? If you are a reciever - go to the place with the best quarterbackks that throw the most. Doesn't that make sense?

Chief Legend (I like the new name),

Uh, I beg to differ. Recently, CIF has gotten much more stringent. You're right, they do rely on the schools and they do openly state that they're not a police agency. However, they do check these things much more rigidly now as compared to before.

Also, I think it's kind of crap that so many people (I'm not saying you) would complain about all this when what takes place elsewhere, AKA Orange County, is much worse. And by worse, I don't mean illegal. I mean the turnover. This type of thing happens on a regular basis there. You want street addresses for the South Hills kids? Then give me the street addresses for the Mission Viejo kids.

Some of you would have your heads spin if you saw the changes in schools made by MULTIPLE high profile athletes down there. You guys just don't have the stomach for it. You guys crow about how the SGV is watered down and inferior to other areas ... why do you think that is? Yet when somebody does what they do all the time at Mission Viejo or OLu or Hart or city schools, you guys cry like babies. What's Bogan and North supposed to do? "No, Dorian. You go away."

It's well-known they want to have one of SoCal's top programs. Well, I hate to tell you, but this is how it happens. When guys leave certain schools, you hope they come to your place. And you don't turn them away if they do. That's how it's done almost everywhere else there's winning football, and that's how it's done here.

Why does he have to move?.......if Monrovia is no good for him what is wrong with Duarte or Pasadena schools?........Heck whats wrong with Northview,Gladstone or even Azusa?........Move to play football at So.Hills ...........something does not sound right........If he is that good he can get a college offer playing for these other schools.........Somebody recruited him to go there..........So. Hills is in violation.....why is CIF turning thier heads on this.?

Dorian does not live across from MHS, he live in the south end aka "The Lo".
And if Dorian is as good as some of you bloggers state, he should probably get a college scholarship to play ball.
The Question you should ask yourselves is "Would you move to a new city so your child could play ball and get that scholarship?" or would you stay knowing your child could not play ball and most likely would lose that scholarship. Also knowing MHS is also one of the worse schools in the WSGV academically.

CIF does not even police these issuses, they rely on school administration to report any illegal activity. If you believe Judy North is going to report to CIF that South Hills has broken any
rules, you are kidding yourself.

Second thing there is no more free transfer after you freshmen year unless you move...Joe Amat is exactly right for Wells to even be elgible at Monrovia he would have to move from his house right now. And the only way he is elgible at South Hills is for him to move it their district.

Chief War Legend has spoken

I hope the transfer is done with all the legal steps necessary. I would hate to see them have this talented kid play for them and then find them in violation and ruin and make them forfeit all their games. They were good without him to begin with. Hope that talented bunch other than Wells do not suffer down the road.....You are right Joe Amat this will be looked at with the utmost attention. Especially if they start to blow people out as most expect them too.........Someone is going to raise the Red Flag reguardless...this transfer is going to bring trouble to the CIF....lots are not happy with it.

I didn't really pose the question "Local Address" did and I was commenting.

I don't really think that if someone goes to school other than the one across the street means that there was any recruiting. I know as a "Monrovia Cat" that disappoints you. I also don't think that if he doesn't attend a faith based school that it says anything about his faith.

Funny thing about the transfer rule. In order to become eligible there must be a change of address OUT OF the attendance area that you presently live in. So in order to be eligible at Monrovia, a transfer that lives in the Monrovia district actually must move anyway, unless some hardship is filed.

South Hills attendance area has, possibly, the best demographic/economic mix in the valley. If you know their boundaries they are not only surrounded by some very expensive homes but also have blocks and blocks of rental apartments in the northern of the attendance area.

So someone puts a "For Sale by Owner" sign in their front yard, sets a high-end price, moves to an apartment for a couple of months to establish residence and then move back in December. Oh well. the market is bad and no one wanted to buy. You eat a few months rent and end up saving on tuition. Not a whole lot of financial loss, and may come out ahead.

I'm certain that it will be done by the rules - too many people will be watching.

REMEMBER YOU DONT NEED TO PROVE YOU LIVE IN THE WEST COVINA AREA TO PLAY AT SOUTH HILLS, JUST STATE YOUR HOMELESS AND THEY CAN NOT QUESTION IT OR ASK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON IT AND SAME GOES FOR ANY OTHER PRIVIATE SCHOOL. IT WORKS

JOE AMAT,
I see you do remember the blue line. When did you graduate from AMAT if you don't mind revealing a little about yourself . By your earlier post I am guessing late 68 thru maybe 71 or 72.

You have to admit Joe Amat that is a good question about him attending SH and not St. Francis or even as you put it La Salle......That post shows how their was recruitment because as earlier stated with all that Good Christian Morality coming out and the fact that someone said Amat is all lies and just trying to single out black athletes and Wells did nothing wrong, then another Catholic HS would have taken him in. Something more happened there with recruiting violations...no way should he be playing for SH....I doubt if his parents are going to sell their house just to buy one in SH, which is not cheap, just so their son can play his senior year of football.........

"...is there any reason why he did not go to St. Francis which is a Catholic HS closer to his home in Monrovia?....."

LaSalle HS would be closer and on surface streets if you wanted to make that argument.

Not knowing Wells exact "former" address (assuming that they must move) in Monrovia, I'm guessing that he lives/lived pretty close to MHS (someone said across the street). MHS to St Francis is less than a mile closer than MHS to amat and if you've ever driven the 210 thru Pasadena at 8 Am I'm positive that going to amat against traffic would take less time. There are many differences between the two schools. The most obvious is that SF is all boys. Maybe that would have helped in this case - or not.

Kinda like the "blue line"down the center of campus in Amat's early years. What some don't know is that Amat used to be "Co-educational" but not "co-instructional". Boys and Girls on the same campus, but not in the same classes. The "blue line" seperated the boys from the girls. Again, does this seperation help. I tend to think not, but I'm not completely sold. Maybe the folks from Damien/St Lucys can chime in.

In Reguards to D.Wells. Someone mentioned his christian up bringing and that his family is very Religious driven with their christian faith....all good...is there any reason why he did not go to St. Francis which is a Catholic HS closer to his home in Monrovia?.....Coming to So. Hills in West Covina where there are pedifile teacher accusations and Teens drinking in the parking lots?....I guess football won over religion here...

I am not letting my kid jump ship over at Amat. I do not talk to him about this blog and what they are saying about our team in here. He does not need to hear that. Again we are talking teens and I cant blame them if they want to jump ship they are still young and will make those young minded decisions...it is the parents that allow this that are teaching them it is allright to quit what they started. Win or Lose this season I back my kid all the way to the end we can be 0-9 and I will be at that tenth game pulling for the team.......Even with all the defections for whatever reasons, Amat still has some good football players over there, despite what all the Haters and bashers think. This team will not quit this year they will be coming to play...I give Dominique Austins dad allot of credit. He could have said screw this I am out of here too and went to So Hills or Damien but he is with us all the way thru...I would not pull my kid from Amat because we are being preceived as a losing football team...he is there for education too football is secondary.....I think Amat will be ok.

The fact remains that Bishop Amat Memorial High School is the premier high school in the SGV. Amat continues to rank as the largest private school in Los Angeles County. This is by no accident. Parents send their children to Amat for more than just sports. Does anyone really think that few kids leaving Amat is going to deminish the history and tradition that Amat will always have to offer?

Please know that it is much more than a losing season that has these players leaving. Last year was a bad year and these players were all there through it, so that is definitely not it. There is much more to this story and unfortunately runs much deeper than people may realize or want to admit. Amat, I'm am very sad to say, is broken in many ways. Will it be fixed?, sure it will. Its just going to take more time than any of these families have and they can't speed up the process. But they are also not going to be casualities of the process. In war, soldiers are always sacrificed. These families just refuse to have there son's athlethic lives and overall high school experience sacrificed. You can't fault any of them for that. All of these players will go on and have great seasons this year and possibily beyond. I for one wish them the best and sincerely hope that Amat learns from this and makes the right changes to prevent someting like this from happening again. Remember Rome was one of the greatest empires on the earth and it fell because it did not adapt.

It does seem like Amat is in trouble and kids are leaving due to fact they see a losing season on the horizon. Kids jump ship because you at least want to play on a winner in those two years of Varsity ball.Cant blame them.

Posted by Big Blue

I see your point.

I just do not understand some people's logic if they follow that rationalization. My mom and Dad always made it a point to tell me that I can never quit anything. When things get hard, you fight through it and learn from the experience. It has made me a better man today as I am married and raising a family. I'm in some tough times but I know I will get through them because of the lessons that I have learned from my parents and the ideals that they have shown me.

If I would have jumped ship because my Amat team wasn't suppose to be good, Then I would have missed out on a great season. My team wasn't suppose to be ranked and there were alot of doubters and if a blog existed there would have been many terrible things said.

Our young men today need to understand that by leaving a tough situation now, they are starting a pattern of quitting in their lives. Is this what you want your children to do? I don't care what high school you are at that has been losing. Stick with it and work through your problems. I want to be able to see a generation of men who face there problems head on and not run away. Maybe that is why there are many absentee fathers in our society. Learn the Life Lessons. High School Football lasts Four years. These Lessons last a Lifetime.

Aram

I took my boy to a Speed Kills session last Saturday and I got tried just watching it! Its a real workout and the kids are loving it! I wish I could do it! Need to get some weight off also!
LOL

Iwai was really never a factor over at Amat. He was asked to leave for a incident. He did not drop the school the school dropped him. Kevin Bonilla the rumor is still out that he is gone. So looks like Bonilla dropped the school and not the other way around. Iwai is not African American so the race issue of Amat asking black athletes to leave has no value....It does seem like Amat is in trouble and kids are leaving due to fact they see a losing season on the horizon. Kids jump ship because you at least want to play on a winner in those two years of Varsity ball..Cant blame them. Cant blame the school. it is what it is and Amat will field a team this year for good or for bad it will show up. The kids that hang in there at Amat and will play with heart and sacrifice their bodies every friday to continue the tradition of Amat football are the Real Men that wear Blue and Gold. The ones that leave and the ones that have been asked to leave well you have your reasons and good luck where you play next.

SGV Fan,

The blogger (in this case me) called South Hills and got confirmation from two people that Dorian Wells was enrolled in summer school and planning on playing there this season. It doesn't get any better than that. Is that info not accurate enough for you? Please be smarter than to suggest that I just post speculation. If it's a rumor, i.e. the DiFiori application at Temple City, I'll call it a rumor.

And by the way, I did call Amat and nobody would comment on it.

football isnt the only sport people are leaving AMAT for.im seein it in everything. AMAT ATHLETIC ARE GOIN DOWN HILL AND FAST!!

Yeah Aram have a good vacation... i guess we will just break our own news now lol...zzzz goodnight and sweet dreams...

sgv fan

What, like "real" reporters can't lie, or twist the facts to their side of center? Almost every cable news, or newspaper is known to be politically left, or right. Facts are what you make of them.

Go to bed, and let Aram enjoy his "time off".

SGVFan,

These days, news is broken everywhere and most of the time it's on blogs. This ranges from sports to business to politics and so on. Blogs are a very new entity, so not many people know what to make of them and everyone has their own opinion of what they should be used for. My take is they should be used for everything. And my other take is eventually blogs will overtake every other venue for getting out info ... in many respects they already have.

I have no problem breaking this on my blog. That doesn't mean it's not credible. I think you have to judge credibility by asking yourself how much you trust the blog author and/or the news outlet he/she represents.

For instance, there was news the other day broken on a blog about Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman, who was arrested at a party. The blogger even told readers not to expect to hear the news until the next day when ESPN and other outlets can go thru their due diligence. Sure enough, the next day ESPN's NFL writer broke the story. The blogger beat him to it. Things are changing.

Seriously Aram you are going to say this is breaking news... then why is not in the newspaper, but on this joke of a blog... you have given no facts besides the young man transfered... this raises specualtion... i thought a "journalist" job was to report facts, but all people have been given is "Transfered"... why should all people's opinion be for public domain??? you said a lot of people read this blog, and they recieve misinformation... you type in SGVTRIBUNE.com/preps and you expect researched news... I enjoy reading your articles about schools and they are all well done... i have seen you at a lot of sporting events and you really do support the valley... so i applaud you with that cause I know it takes a lot of work to cover every sport... if i did not know better it sounds like South Hills is illegally taking a transfer (cheating), which i know is not the case and Amat does not like african americans, is horribly run, and has no mercy... if i was not from the SGV that is what I would get from reading this blog... does this sound like credible news... Why isn't this in the newspaper???

how was brandon iwai a key reciever on Amat's team without catching a pass last season (according to MaxPreps)?

We'll get to Cogburn next week with the Top 10 receiver discussion. I'm aware of who he is. I might try the SpeedKillz camp just to lose weight.

Aram

Alot of talk about Wells and I can understand it, but in my opinion Tommy Cogburn is the SGV top receiver hands down. This young man is going places!

Legit 4.4 speed, with good combine standings, and D1 schools after him. He is also a product of Jimmy Nolan's Speed Kills

in the blog it says brandon sermons also left...it says nothing about brandon iwai. He was a key reciever on Amat's team.

you're a little late. that has already been established. you might want to read the blog before you comment.

Another big player leaving amat is reciever, Brandon Iwai, along with Dorian Wells...reciever Brandon Iwai will be heading to South Hills as well.

Another big player leaving amat is reciever, Brandon Iwai, along with Dorian Wells...reciever Brandon Iwai will be heading to South Hills as well.

To my #1 fan and his minions...

1. The term "crime" was a figure of speech....duh!

2. The event in question did not have racial motivations. Of course there is racism everywhere...duh!

3. There are other ways to find out info from sources. I'm sure most reporters do not personally know everyone they write stories on...duh!

4. Forgiveness may not have different levels...but neither do standards. All Amat did was defend these standards. OK...enough w/ da duhs!

5. Your medieval comment was a cheap hater shot and a lame attempt at sounding brilliant....I'll give you a C-.

6. Name another school located in the "armpit" of the SGV that is home to more students that will go and be successful in college with or without athletics and I will take back my "beacon of light" statement...

P.S. If a parent pulls a student out of 2 of the best academic private schools in the southland because they will not start his kid on the football team...well....why is this even being discussed? Anyone care to justify this behavior?

P.S.2 I always know where my kids are...But thank you for asking! Hopefully...You are like me and you have more of a relationship with your kids that involves more than just a cell phone call every now and then....This is a trend that is becoming more and more common every day. And people wonder why drug and gang activity are on the rise....

Lancer DN,

I get it, it's the old "I don't like the topic on the blog, so I'm going to say that kids are being bashed" argument. I know you're an Amat fan, so this thread hurts. But don't confuse conversation with bashing.

And are you really telling me that Wells leaving Amat and going to South Hills is a non-story? Should it not be on here? Are you seriously saying that?

Nobody on here is bashing Dorian Wells. But he is a high profile athlete, and what he does or where he goes comes under scrutiny.

You want to talk about exploiting kids? This site gets THOUSANDS of hits per day and they're not all from the SGV. If by claiming exploitation you mean that my putting it out there that Danny Pertusati is the SGV's top QB or Bryce McBride is the top RB, then I stand convicted of exploitation.

This site gives the area recognition far beyond your imagination and it's way more good than bad. The "chicken sh*t journalism" you referred to happens only when you cover the good and act like the bad doesn't exist. I don't make the news up. I put it out there for all to see.

I'm sorry you don't like the topics, but they are just that - TOPICS! Thanks for your opinion, now keep reading.

Aram your going to tell me that you do not have a clue as to why Wells is no longer at Amat. If he had it his way he would be there today and not at SH. You know what the situation was and what caused his departure..yes, you heard you are not that blind....You knew from your experience here on the blog that this would become a witch hunt due to the fact that Amat does not like the way it went down and I am sure CO and LA are pissed he will be playing against them and not for them..there is jealousy and where there is jealousy there is hate and thats is when the details of the incident come out....you know what your doing and you of all people who delete when necessary should have known people were going to take shots at wells and family. You should be deleted from this newspaper and get this blog off of here. It is opening the door to slamming our kids in atletics...it has gotten way out of control......

Lancer 2 DN,

Sorry you don't think it's a story/topic that the top player in the area is transferring from the most storied program to one of the area's best. And naturally, with such a high profile situation, people are going to have opinions that they want to voice. You may not like it, but that's how it is.

JOE AMAT ,
That is my graduating class. In my day we only had one dean and that was Fr. Barry for the boys and Sr. Julie for the girls. Those were the days of the blue line dividing the campus which turned into a peace sign one night. We did have an incident were some classmates were not allowed to walk with the class at graduation due to rule violations during the last week of school. Imagine blowing it in your last week of school. But rules are rules . We all had to live by them.

WTF is going on in here. you all are acting like a bunch of fools.....what you fail to see is, if Aram did not post this thread you all would not be up to 200 hits already...this is blowing up...Aram starts it ducks for cover and then it gets out of hand and then he deletes some takes and sits back and watches all the hate going back and fourth...It is people like all of us that has made Aram's blog a huge success. As far as the topic here the only people that should be concerned about it are the people involved. Parents of the WR must be pissed hearing all this. Aside from all that, this thread should not be about the incident but about how So. Hills could have a Monrovia resident playing football for them. That is the real topic of conversation we should be having. This blog likes to exploit Students (minors). this is chicken SHI- journalism.....I am surprised and shocked Aram superiors have not taken this off the web....Who knows after all this they just may can it.......really it has gotten out of hand and off the subject of HS sports.

Here's the rule regarding Wells or other players in a similar situation ... He (they):

A. Have to file for a hardship (I have no clue what qualifies as a hardship).

OR

B. Move into the district. This doesn't mean Mom and son live one place and Dad and other siblings live somewhere else.

Look, I understand this is very sensitive for some of you. And some of you think rules are being broken. But this is a very high profile case and not some underclassmen sneaking in. If Wells is playing at South Hills this season, rest assured the family and school did everything they were supposed to. Believe me, I'll even investigate it for myself.

black & bluorca

Thank You. It's not about the school!

Free Willy(bluorca),

Your "justified" attack was way off base. The father in question would be the first to tell you that he has no interest in his son playing pro ball, that is not his concern. I've heard this from his mouth myself many times. He only wants an opportunity for his son to gain a free education. Who wouldn't? Academics are obviously a priority for this family because of their academic background and since his departure has gained interest from D1 and Ivy League schools. That was the goal and it looks like their on the road to reaching it. Good luck to them.

Bluorca, lets break down your feeble attempt to back Amat's stance (and yours).

"Bishop Amat was forgiving in that they allowed these players to actually transfer to other schools and continue their football careers despite whatever crime was commited."

Crime, what crime. No police report was filed. No charges placed on anyone. Are we missing something here.

"It's very simple and it has nothing to do about race. I can't believe a couple of you haters are trying to play the race card. Amat is as diverse as any school in the SGV and to even suggest racism is occurring on any level is flat out stupid stupid and most all....stupid. "

Bluorca, What was stupid was this entire comment. The US is the most diverse country in the world, yet there is surely racism present, we all have been victims of it. So to state that there is no racism at Amat because of its diverse student population is just plain ignorant.

"And this is whats wrong with the SGV people...Too many lazy parents who have their own agendas in mind rather than the good of their kid. Everyone wants to make the big fast bucks and do as little as possible to attain this. I've only targeted ONE ONE ONE family on here for doing this and I'm not going to bring it up again."

You seem to be the one with an agenda, to always stand for the school and its decisions, questionable or even flat out wrong. Is Amat a school or a clan/cult? Targeting ONE family is ONE family too many. You do not know ANY of these families personally, and regardless have no right to judge their decisions.If you feel justified in your actions, than judgement day is not going to be a pleasant experience for you buddy.

"Bishop Amat DID forgive Wells for whatever he did....AGAIN ITS BECAUSE OF THIS FORGIVENESS THAT HE IS GOING TO HAVE A GREAT SEASON AT SOUTH HILLS!"

For somwone who professes so much knowledge, this is just plain stupid. Forgiveness does not have different levels or degrees.

"It boggles my mind how some of you could attack Bishop Amat KNOWING again, how much more damage Amat could have done!!!"

The all powerful Amat had mercy on the poor Wells family. LMAO Sometimes I think this whole Lancer thing has really gone to your head and Msgr. is your King Arthur and the rest of the administration is your round table. Your rational is so midevil its amazing.

"Amat will continue to be the beacon of light of what is increasingly becoming a cesspool of crime in the SGV..."

A beacon of light draws people in, not push peopla away. I think you have it a little twisted, like most everything else regarding Amat.

By the way, do you know where your kids are, or were you too busy kissing Amat @$$ to even raise them? Just a thought.

Bluorca you are amazing how you just assume the role of arbitrator of morality, justice and fair play when you exhibit none.

If I could I would put a foot up you blow hole just to see the look on your face! I know you're just a fustrated man but do we all have to suffer for it?

By the way you embarass yourself more than any other Amat blogger

Gee Joe I'm in awe of your knowledge of CIF and Bishop Amat matters. Where did you coach again?

I think I know who you are but I'll never say.

You're a little old to still have kids there so your involvment is really from a "booster" perspective.

What the hell is going on over there?

ARAM COME BACK!!!!!

I attacked the father!

Because a father that chases that NFL dream of HIS with no regard for academics, the athletic ability of his son nor negative consequences his son would have to live with deserves to be attacked.

Such selfishness is fair game in blog land.

Isn't it great that Bishop Amat is dominating the blog again...okay maybe not this time. LOL

Chris Rix was probably the most notable student asked to leave. Deservingly so if I might add.

Bluorca you never disappoint. You've only "attacked ONE ONE ONE "family" how noble. So you attacked the "whole" family or just the guilty party "within" the family?

You are a classic blowhard!

Mr Motown, you speak the truth.

I am much more for rehabilitation than for shipping them off to somewhere else where, honestly, they will be surrounded by an environment where what they did might not be such a big deal on that campus anyway. What have we really taught the kids in that instance? And the worst part is that whatever happened/didn't happen was not even on the amat campus. It was not so much what they did, but they got caught off campus and someone else knew.

I'd feel much better, athletes or not, to keep them on campus and teach/educate as to the way that we want things done here. But the discipline is hot and cold that no one really knows what's up. I think that the discipline boards are so sick of flip-flops that they just vote to boot everyone because MSGr is going to do what he wants anyway.

Amat 73,
If that is your graduating year and not your number, didn't Cleo (the Asst FB coach/dean of Discipline) have a BIG housecleaning and boot a bunch of people around the time of your senior year? If I remember, your QB's younger bro was one of them.

and

Women's Rights,

One of the paintball kids was a very recent faculty members son. No one is off limits. I don't think that race has anything to do with it once it gets to the board. Before that who knows?

The boys basketball parents had some race related concerns during the present basketball coaches' first year. The best girls basketball players brother withdrew because of it and everyone was hoping the sister stayed - which she did. Funny what having a top notch coach will do. The family stayed because they knew that they were playing for a good coach. THAT is what determines many of these decisions and until the brass recognizes that - we may never keep, or get, the kind of players that we should in the other sports.

This is extreme but just a thought...And this is not directed at all parents because most parents are indeed responsible ones. This is for the other type that I know all of you know of or about...

If parents had to pay the consequences for their kid's actions meaning...that it would be the parents that had to do community service or go to jail because junior robbed the local video store to buy some 40s for his homies...

I guarantee you...there would be mass records set in the decline of crimes committed not only in the SGV but the entire country.

Does it take this kind of extremism for parents to wake the hell up and become more involved in their kid's lives?

Do you know where your junior is? Are you sure you know? How do you know? How could you find out if you needed to? Do you even care?

If Johnny Cochron were here none of this would be hap-ning......Jessie on his way to Amat to clear things up with Monsignor Carroll.......this is all Rumor tho.!

Bishop Amat could have done a heck of a lot worse to these players guys...

They could have straight out expelled them...not asked them to leave. These players would have been unable to play anywhere else according to CIF rule. (someone check this...i dont have time) Bishop Amat was forgiving in that they allowed these players to actually transfer to other schools and continue their football careers despite whatever crime was commited.

It's very simple and it has nothing to do about race. I can't believe a couple of you haters are trying to play the race card. Amat is as diverse as any school in the SGV and to even suggest racism is occurring on any level is flat out stupid stupid and most all....stupid.

~It's funny that the parents that have complained about me are probably the same parents that have no clue where their kids are at night.

~This blog is awesome! What it does is demands accountability for everyone's actions...including parents.

And this is whats wrong with the SGV people...Too many lazy parents who have their own agendas in mind rather than the good of their kid. Everyone wants to make the big fast bucks and do as little as possible to attain this. I've only targeted ONE ONE ONE family on here for doing this and I'm not going to bring it up again. As far as Wells goes...I never once attacked the Wells family.

I'm sure the Wells family does not want all of this junk to come out in the open. And even though they may be upset about not being able to come back into Amat I'm sure they are at least satisfied that Wells is going to be able to play for SH....BECAUSE AMAT DID NOT ACTUALLY EXPEL HIM.

It boggles my mind how some of you could attack Bishop Amat KNOWING again, how much more damage Amat could have done!!!

Bishop Amat DID forgive Wells for whatever he did....AGAIN ITS BECAUSE OF THIS FORGIVENESS THAT HE IS GOING TO HAVE A GREAT SEASON AT SOUTH HILLS!

But at the same time, he did make a decision...and all decisions have consequences. I know he will learn from this experience and move on. Dorian Wells will excel at whatever life throws his way.

For Amat football fans, it's upsetting. For the Amat coaching staff...it's upsetting...For the Amat family it's upsetting...but!...

We will always stand by our players and cheer them on despite whatever odds are stacked against them. I've seen Amat teams with less talent beat nationally ranked teams. I have full faith in God and in each and everyone of those guys. Whatever happens, Amat will continue to be the beacon of light of what is increasingly becoming a cesspool of crime in the SGV...

"if we should lose let it be by the code and cheer as the winners go by..."

Rumor has Kevin Bonilla checking into Walnut?..oh could they use him.

Inappropriate behavior will never be tolerated at any parochial school. We hold ourselves to a higher standard and assure every parent that their children are safe.

And I quote, "justified or not the school did the right thing".

Isn't that how we got into this crazy war?
Blind allegiance is never healthy.

Kissing in the halls is now an expellable offense? God only knows I wouldn't have graduated.

I was once caught kissing my girlfriend in a confessional during lunch. When things got a little loud the priest, Father ( ) slid the confessional "slider" open and asked in the calmest voice. "So I can expect to see you at church on Sunday?" "Yes " I said in disbelief. And then he told me to say a couple of Hail Marys and Our Fathers and left. And never mentioned it again! Then my public school girlfriend asked, "Who was that?" Amazingly she seemed surprised that a priest was in the middle confessional. Public school girls are crazy! But then again it takes two!

Hey in the might words of the might men who listen to Motown...

"If loving you is wrong I don't want to be right!!!!"

Whatever these kids did it's time to understand times have changed and so has Bishop Amat. Maybe the best thing would have been to discipline these kids and assure THEM ALL that Bishop Amat is where they would best DEVELOP into outstanding MEN and WOMEN but then again I'v dealt with Bishop Amat's justice and it's tricky at best.

Good luck to all parties concerned. Even the most ardent Amat fan has to be a little concerned by the behavior of some Amat bloggers.

Thats the problem. There was no act committed. Ask the administration.

Ladies first,

We talk about these two young men and the unjust of being asked to leave the great AMAT...there were ladies involved but no one is talking here about them because, again they are not star football players. How do you think their dads and moms feel?...they like the two young men are expelled and gone from Amat as well. It irks the heck out me when sports play a part in getting someone off the hook....it happens allot...now this is HS not OJ and these 4 got what was coming to them and the schools is now the one to blame for kicking out African Americans athletes?..two Hispanics were asked to leave last year over a paintball gun incident......I think some of you know....someone mentioned the race card and we dont need to get that deep but when all the dust settles and everyone can return to their neutral corners the fact remains the same ..justified or not justified the school did the right thing and did not get swayed by a upcoming won loss record in football....all parties combined would not be going thru this and all this blog bashing of people parents and players if the act did not happen....it is what it is lets get on with life and forget about it.....the more we talk about it here on this enquirer/blog the more out of hand it is getting (we are talking yougsters here)....punishment was handed down for a reason not because they are black or football players but because something happen that no will talk about...be we all know something did happen or they would not be at other schools....lets be honest here.

All these comments about people who have either left or were asked to leave is their business and no one elses. If they broke the rules than they must deal with that fact. Nobody other then the said parties know the whole story and I am sure they do not want to share with any outsiders what the truth of the matters are. When I went to AMAT we started with what was then the largest freshmen class and graduated one of the smallest. Many left be it for diciplnary , academic or financial reasons. It happens all the time but since a few of them are athletic standouts it makes headlines.Take it for what it is . Some people just can't live within the rules or because of the rising cost of living, money is better spent elsewhere. Maybe all you should stop by AMAT and get a copy of the Lancer Life to see what is expected of a student at AMAT before you pass judgment on the school being unfair. Not defending anyone just stating facts.

Okay Diana how many non African Amaricans have been expelled from the Bishop Amat football team or asked not to return this year. And Fred or Aram maybe you can give Diana an opportunity to answer before you delete the comment.

Bluorca, MATMTWTBAG, Joe Amat, Living Legend, Amat 73, Original BLUE AND GOLD, and any other Lancer Nation follower maybe you could give Diana a hand with that one.

WE ALL AWAIT YOUR COMMENTS. FOR ONCE BISHOP AMAT-----THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

seriously this blog is a joke... there is NO consquences for anybodys words... you could post anything on this site and people would believe it... you do not need facts all you need is an opinion... i thought this newspaper was a credible paper, but i guess newspapers are about opinion now and blogs, not about facts... it is nice to see the blog above the news articles lol... sad to see a reporter who relies on peoples opinions and posts to create stories...Why not call this paper/ blog the san gabriel tribune inquirer... there is no log in or any ip addresses or anything to keep people honest... I have come on to see what was the big fuss about this blog and I found lies, hate, and i wouldnt call a lot of the people on this site a fan... Lets remember that kids do come on here and do read the stuff that you post... it is hard enough being a student athlete let alone have a blog from your local supporting newspaper that allows "fans" to come on and talk about private issues in your life... all these kids do not get paid and owe the fans nothing... the fans owe the players, coaches, schools all their support... No one is making millions so be careful what you say... No player needs this... Aram lets just write articles and we can stop with all the hate & Opinions on players, coaches, admin, & each others teams...

Dirty Diana,

So now its the race card, please dude. so all the blacks that are gone were are bad apples? Yeah, right. You are so gullable. You would probably believe the world is flat, or that there is a Santa Claus. Oops sorry, hate to spoil that for you. By the way, Verti did go to bat for them and they appealed the decision more than once because the allegations were bull. By the way Christian morality is based on love and the forgiveness of sin and Amat in turn was built on Christian beliefs. God forgave man for alot worse sins and his son died for them all. If not, what is all for.

Hey Marvin Gaye boy,

Cut the Cra- and stop playing the race card...lots of different races go to Amat. You know this. He got caught doing something he was not supposed ot be doing and now he is gone. I guess B. Ry did not do anything either. Then to go hide behind your christian morality..dude you have lost it....If he did not do anything wrong dont you think that Verti aa a coach would have wnet to bat for these kids...Vertis hands were tied by the truth and he had no ground to stand on.....get a grip dude you dont have a clue what you are talking about

Marvin, you right on the money with that. MATMTWTBAG and Bluorca are at the top of the list when it comes to irresponsible comments about players and their parents.You guys should apologize to all of the families you insulted and demeaned on this sight. Obviously, their reaasons for leaving have been confirmed and justified in light of all the recent developments at Amat. Thats exactly why comments should not be made on personal family decisions such as leaving a school. You just don't know what is really going on, unless you're in that person's skin.

Im not a Bishop Amat fan because of all the trash talk thats put on the blogg by the same people saying how great they are and how we can not compare amat with other SGV school because of pride and the teams they play and so on and so on and so on, well I think Amat got what it had coming to them and my sons freind is on the team and I can tell you they are Not happy and other guys are talking about leaving also not all to south hills but they are thinking about leaving they live in the areas of CO and WC and LA they are SGV kids...... I know if they want to leave then Amat doesent need kids like that right, thats the attitude that Amat has. to bad

Luvthisgame,

Believe me, I'd love to be in there doing some kind of story, but I'm on vacation for the next three weeks. I will be looking into it when I come back. It's very disturbing.

Aram,

I'm not telling you how to do your job, but I sincerely hope you decide to cover this, what seems to be a much larger story at Amat. Sounds like some much needed light needs to shine on this issue.Its for the good of all current and future Lancers.

Your right, 10 African-American players who have been either expelled or asked to withdraw from Amat. I wonder how many more will Msgr Carroll kick out.

I here you MAT.. but I disagree. Al Davis owns the Raiders, he can run them into the ground if he wants. Msgr. however reports to the Archdiocese. He can be subject to a review like any other person under a business or an organization's employ. It just takes those invested in the program to take a stand. Carroll IS NOT untouchable. Its just nobody has had the stones to call him on the carpet, but now seems as good a time as any.

Bishop Amat Football is in a free fall like no other school I have ever seen in 30 years of folowing high school football. What the hell is going on over there? To me, from the outside looking in, it's starling how many African American football players have left the school. What's the count now 4 or 7? Most were scheduled to be starters.

That, more than anything, sends a terrible message to all African American players and families. Is it just a coincidence? I hope that the numbers are nothing more than that. I don't think that's the problem as much as it's a disturbing trend. As far as starting something (racial or otherwise...the DAD wrote the comment bringing up this very issue earlier and of course was pooh poohed as an Amat imposter or Amat hater).

Aram there have been some very disturbing rumblings about this trend. I have some thoughts that I shared with this Amat football parent who's struggling to come to terms with the goings on at Bishop Amat. He went on to say, "If he had known this kind of "athlete witch hunting" was going to take place he would have taken his son out of the school before his senior season." Now his attitude is very simple but equally direct, "No one ,especially these blogger hypocrites that call themselves so-call AMAT FANS, is going to run me and my family out of Bishop Amat. I tell my son.'We started something and we are going to finish it'"! That's a very very disturbing comment and indictment of the culture and goings on at Bishop Amat.

The father is African Amarican and is just beyond himself about the "freakin' non sense and Bullsh%& that has come out about Wells. From what he's told me Wells is a good Christian son from a great Christian family and fierce Bishop Amat boosters. Wells was a religious group leader and model student. Like all kids no one is a saint but the lies that have been mentioned about Wells are completely over the top and untrue. I asked that dad to come on the blog and comment but he feels it would only hurt his son and bring more pressure to bare on an already difficult situation.

I completely respect that Dad's position. I don't agree with it but I respect his right to privacy. I don't however understand nor defend the current Bishop Amat players continued silence regarding this matter. When one of your friends is being dragged thru the mud it's time to be a man and speak up. That's the first lesson a man must learn and that's to stand his ground.

I've known this dad to be a man of honor and have never heard him ever raise is voice in anger but last night he cursed the injustice of the Wells predictament and it's affect on the family. Shame on those that have thrown Wells under the Blue and Gold bus. He also told me he wished he knew the names of these so called Amat bloggers who do nothing more than bring the school down so he could tell them to their face what he thought of them and their comments.

MATMTWTBAG you're on the top of his list.

What?...first off that is my point in saying it does not make sense...why would he go elsewhere if he is a starting Catcher on the Champions baseball team and he starts at free safety on the football team. You think he wants to compete over at Chino when he has it made at Amat. Plus my point is Amat is about the classroom and what it does for the individuals it turns out. Luvthis game I hear you but you know and I know that nothing is going to change until (and I hate using this example but)like the Raiders the old man moves on....Al Davis and Monsignor Carroll are cut from the same scissors and are mainstays until they fall off....until then we have no choice but to deal with it...dont you think in the Raider organization they talk behind Al's back and want him gone so they can restore the greatness of the a once dynamic organization...well the same holds true with you and I and lots others who want to see Carroll go...but until then we must still back the program weather we like it or not.......there is no impeechment here. we have to wait unless you have a better idea luvthisgame....and by the way the Raider example was for Carroll / Davis not our team. We are still strong as a team despite the quitters,shipjumpers and asked to leave players.

Iwai is also gone from Amat also, to South Hills as well, I believe.

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD, you know the rest.

Kevin Bonilla is still there, with the exception of the time he was playing baseball, he's been at every practice.

Webb is gone, I think a possible victim of the same thing that got Wells whacked.

Chino baseball won the Sierra league, made it to the quarterfinals and lost to the eventual champion, so they must be pretty good too

GREAT POST JOE!!!! I'm not from that era, but I was brought up under those philosophies. You've got it right. People talk about history and tradition, but dont turn to those that established it for guideance. Who better to ask, than the ones that have been there and done it before. MATMTWTBAG, you do need to get your head out of the sand and help make change if you are truly a Amat supporter and fan. As Aram said, something is seriously wrong at Amat.

MAT...,

Why doesn't it make sense? Bluorca and yourself have said high school is about more than athletics. In addition, of course he would still practice for conditioning and to prevent any criticism while he was still attending Amat. Wake up dude!!!!

JOE AMAT,
You brought back alot of old memories . Remember the old Catholic school shoot out double headers at The Big A on Thursday nights and then the late start on Friday. I had the pleasure of having Tate as a sub a couple of times and just talking football with him other times. Great defensive mind.What else is there to say but STAN THE MAN boy did he have great opinions of some of the actions that went on at AMAT. Great post but I am sure only a few of us can relate to what you are saying. There seems to be a new breed of supporter that think all the glory is just due to us with no work or sweat. Our past is what makes our present and the present keeps the legacy alive . Yes we are struggling at the moment but I think were headed in the right direction with Verti. Maybe you should have a summer school class on " How to be a LANCER 101" for some of these new parents and supporters .

Well if Kevin Bonilla left that is a tough one to lose. It makes no sense for him to leave he was one of the key members of the Baseball Championship team and he would be returning next year to see if they can repeat. I do not see Kevin Leaving and if he did leave now that I admit is a major blow to the Amat team.

you dont have to move in the south hills area to play for south hills all you have to do is inroll in the school and say you are homeless and they cant legally ask you any questions or even question it. some info for you out there. if your homeless you can go to ANY public school and thats a fact jake

Joe Amat ..what an EGO!

No hard feelings what so ever...you have yourself a good one..and i will see you are the hall of fame game...i will make sure to come up and have a chat with you....peace

Chief Legend is much better. There's no hard feelings, just bored here with too much time on my hands during Prep Break.

You're in for a long one. Sorry. But it's been building up. It might be easier to repeat some previous posts. Skip it if you're not up to it - no offense taken.

Sometimes you earn the right to rant. Unless you've got that big handshake from Phil Cantwell, caught a Haden pass, pet Major or looked into Tate Duffs one good eye, compared battle wounds in the Pizza Corral parking lot, suffered thru the Ambrosi/King years, ate and/or prepared a pre-game steak, had a "sip or two " with Stanzione or Katusic, drank a post game "pop" with Patricio or Woods and Rogers, or X&O'd with Paredes or Salter - you have no idea. If ANY of the names do not ring a bell do not even post as a lancer loyalist. I've done each - so here goes some blasts from the past:

"...The entire, " do their students live in the 'district'" argument is not really valid - and may actually prove an advantage to the public schools. Public schools have a natural feeder system where students matriculate within the district and end up at a particular high school. Private schools have no such system. They must "market" their product in order to aquire students. Sometimes it is great academics, sometimes it is great co-curricular activities, of which athletics is only one. Contrary to the stories that circlulate thru communities, private school athletes pay tuition. Everyone seems to "know" someone who did not have to pay, and as one who has been around private high schools for nearly 30 years I can attest that 99% of them are urban legends. Financial aid is usually available to any student that demonstrates need and, certainly, athletes get their fair share of that. but normally that is a very small portion and does not come close to covering tuition, books and fees. Do the athletes at public schools pay any tuition? That is a huge deterrent to athletes entering a school or transfer in. I can guarantee (and have had conversations with those that know) that their have been far more transfers OUT of private schools, than there are INTO private schools....
****The bottom line, public or private, is that it is soley up to school's administration to determine the success at their particular level. If they hire and support the best coach available - they will succeed to the extent that they are capable. If they don't, they will flounder. ***

There is no better example than right here at home in the SGV. The Bogan/Farrar/Gano era, along with the building of Diamond Ranch and Chino Hills has given families options to play sports FOR FREE rather than playing under mediocre, inexperienced coaches at Amat and pay big bucks. And I'm sure that no one in the public sector is feeling sorry for the demise of the lowly lancers.

Posted by: Joe Amat at October 30, 2006 10:03 AM

Wow Joe Amat,

That was one of the best posts I've seen here. It got scathing at the end. I like the "Bogan/Gano/Farrar era" comment.

Posted by: Aram at October 30, 2006 10:12 AM

Unfortunately, this has become all too true, and the present leadership has no one to blame but themselves. They have routinely spurned offers of targeted alumni assistance under the premise that if you give you better give to the general fund to pay for the MSGr shrine of a gym. The gym is great if it is coupled with a great program and full of fans. But it has become an albatross that has pulled the program down instead of building it up. It has driven decisions from removing staff discounts on tuition (faculty pays full for their kids), a cut in financial aid for students, wishy-washy discipline by MHPHD and all the way down to the hiring of a bargain basemant football coach with great potential. And I do think he has "potential" and may be good. Some day.

Too much work has gone into creating a place that deserves more than just potential. That's for someplace else. Come to us with some instant credibility and credentials. No disrespect and no offense intended. It simply is what it is. I remember writing:

"It is not really Verti that people should have a beef with. All he can be is what he is, and its' not his fault that he is what he is. He is a young, rookie inexperienced coach and the lancers are suffering because of it.

If a coach puts an unprepared player in a position where he is destined to fail - it is the coaches fault. When an administration puts an unprepared coach in a position in which he is destined to fail - it is the administrations fault.

Lack of immediate credibility is hard to overcome. When you are entering a storied program like amat you cannot afford to have that lingering doubt hanging over your head. I don't think that DiFiori ever really recovered from that and ever really earned that respect from everyone. Verti certainly will be swimming upstream from here on out and it is going to be tough - lancers expect immediate, and continued success.

123 mentions the other recent championships and the 2002 boys basketball championship was won during Lokar's first year as the head coach at the school. But he came in with previous head coaching experience and tons of credentials so the players and the parents bought in and they made immediate improvement to an already good (even if disfunctional and underachieving) team to win a CIF Championship, a good playoff run the next year and was rebuilding with a bunch of really good sophomores. They could have been a power for years when the school dropped the ball and should have done everything that they could to keep him. He was replaced by a coach with a terrible record as a head coach from arch-rival St Paul and who mutiny on his hands from the get go. He had an awful relationship with parents (kiss of death at amat) and started with no credibility (football players would show up at games with posters calling for his firing) and he probably will never overcome that at amat. Again - administration put someone that was unprepared in a position to fail.

The girls basketball coach has been very successful and got immediate respect because he was sleeping with the vice-principal (easy now, it's ok - they are married). But now that vice-principal is gone to become the principal at Charter Oak, (which will be interesting because the amat girls coach teaches at CO as well). He could be on his way out of amat for bigger or better things-and administration may be faced with a decision again. Let's hope that they don't make the same mistake they made with the boys.

Administration seems to have made a good call with the new baseball coach( I guess I was right on that one), who was an assistant coach at USC for some time - immediate credibility from athletes and parents will limit the second guessing and lead to that "buy in" that Verti doesn't, and may never, have. Not his fault, but the administrations. lancers deserve better.

Posted by: Joe Amat at October 31, 2006 08:56 AM

and it's not just me, read on if you can

You are correct, HS is a great time to remember, and it only lasts 4 years. Varsity HS football for most is even a shorter period of time, an average of 2 years. I believe this is why most people have such high expectations at any school, let alone a school like an AMAT with its football tradition.

Players aspiring to make it to the next level dont have the luxury of waiting 2-3 years for a program to turn around or to get a fair shake. They are working with a very small window of opportunity. That is the major reason why the HS transfer and residence issues are so huge. Aram even has a blog about this now, regarding public vs private.

Then people want to bad mouth these players who leave and their families. They are only doing what will give them the best chance for success. Remember, for some students athletics is the only way for them to better their family situation or to obtain a college education. Is that so wrong to want. Isn't that what this country is supposed to be about. If people "just dealt with it and shut up" all the time, we would have no progress. All minorities, that primarily make up the SGV, should know this all too well.

Today's HS coach has an even bigger responsibility to these young men than in the past. They are affecting the future of every player that laces up a cleat for their program. Its not about bashing coaches here, as so many are quick to say. Its about the coaches recognizing their role in the bigger picture. Just like the game is not about one player, it is also not about any one coach or a coach's own agenda or propaganda. The game is supposed to be bigger than that.

In the case of Verti, even in his youth, parents, alumni and especially the players expect that a guy who has "been there" understand these principles and entrust him to do the right thing. Thats all, nothing more and nothing less. This situation and the issues with Verti, his staff and the administration have been discussed in this forum from day 1. It has been an issue and common theme during both the AMAT wins and losses.

Can he please everybody, of course not. But when multiple families are coming to you and/or the AD with concerns, and you do nothing, its an issue. When your alumni turnout at Homecoming is the lowest its been in years, its an issue. When college coaches, recruiters, etc. recognize talent on your team and you do nothing to promote it, its an issue. When you are booed by your home crowd, its an issue.

Any player deserves better.

Posted by: LUVTHISGAME at October 31, 2006 11:12 AM

We all suffered thru those years in the late 70's and if you think that there wasn't just as much booster moaning and groaning at Hanks Bar on Sunset or in the back room of Pinelli's Pizza Corral on Amar you're mistaken. If you couldn't get a seat you just argued in the parking lot. The boosters then didn't have a blog, but there were more of them - remember we used to pack Mt Sac. If you think there wasn't pressure then you are kidding yourself. At that time Amat got back on track with a change in administration. We are quickly becoming St Paul and anyone who has been around knows why. It is going to take that change to create a turn for the better. Until then we might need to wait it out as we did before and cheer like heck for the players that stick around to endure the transition. It' an uphill battle, but one worth fighting. And you don't fight by sticking your head in the sand and walk around with the myopic chant "mighty are the men...yada,yada,yada" You've gotta step up and fight and argue for the changes that we know are needed. Thenwe can feel good that at least we tried.

oops that is chief legend...lol...one last comment everything i say is fact freddie...talk to you buddy Aram he has met me and knows alot of the people that i know...so he knows that i dont come on here and talk out of both sides..but in fact i come on here and spread some truth

Uh oh seems i have struck a cord with a certain someone...Freddie dont take it so personal, it is not an attack on you buddy...all it is, is pointing some issues that have taken place at south hills and questioning whats going on over there....or could you be getting upset cause it is possible that you are friends with people from the Hills? I dont know. But dont come on here trying to call me out...I stick by what i said...it is obvious by you not be able to prove what you have said about the legend that you cant stand by what you have said....believe me people that know me, know that i say this no matter where i am at or who is around....as for now untill i term necassary i shall change my name from Living Legend to Cheif Legend cause now i am on the war path

On Amat, I feel terrible they're losing players and are not the the program they once were. I went to Edgewood, but spent most of my Friday nights in the late 80s and early 90s at Amat football games, waching the "Enemy Bienemy" and the coaching genius of Paredes. What they need is a high profile coach that attracts players, that is known in the community, and that has a reputation for winning. Bogan and Gano would win there. This doesn't mean Amat's coaching staff isn't qualified or capable, but players follow winning programs and where winning coaches go next.

Los Altos & South Hills ethics and morals are RIGHT!

C.I.F. is wrong!

Legalize recruiting and transferring!

“If you know how to cheat, start now.”
Earl Weaver

“No, we don't cheat. And even if we did, I'd never tell you.”
Tommy Lasorda

By the way, I don't think it's a good thing that a Valley team is being decimated by attrition like this. Something is really wrong.

Well, losing No. 3 (the recruiting war) is what's hurting most. I'm still trying to figure out what Charter Oak gets in all of this? I mean McBride is at LA and Wells is at SH. Ahh, anyway, like I said - start throwing rocks at SH, CO and LA. (I'm not being serious, but you get the point).

I like how all the bloggers who have criticized Amat's "Lack of Talent" are now foaming at the mouth now that some of these players, who are being asked to leave/expelled, might attend their high school.

Aram,
When will CIF get a clue about what's going on in the SGV? What Amat administartor should be speaking out against this. The Principal? The AD?

1.Amat didn't hire a name coach
2. Amat has started the process to build a state of the art field
3.Losing the recruiting war
4.Website is up to date
5.Sciarra, Minor, McCutcheon are just a few of the Lancers who have shown up to speak to the team.

Last thing, and just a comment on this last post attacking the integrity of Judy North. If you want to go that far, don't hide behind your computer, sign your name to it. It's easy for these coaches, kids and principals to be open season for anonymous comments that we don't don't know are factual or not. But to be fair, if you can criticize, sign your name and be open to public criticism too.

FredJ,

What's your take on the Amat situation?

Freddie i think you are missing my point...i am not saying they deserve to be scrutinized and never have even hinted that they deserve this..if this is the type of journalism you do, then for pete sake no wonder the media has a bad rep...please i challenge you to show me one statement that i said they deserve to be demeaned or scrutinized...the point is that by putting up blogs and have t.v. shows you are opening up the door for these kids to be scrutinized. also i think you are wrong in what you say about more kids that are sensitive about what is being said about them...and who cares what i call myself i am not the topic here....your character is becoming the topic though with some of your statements....the legend speaks...Freddie if i hurt you feelings with what i said about the star news...it was a joke...maybe a little low..but i did not mean any harm..

covina is gonna dominate over anybody in the SGV
we have some new guy from monrovia and some guy who came from virginia, this time we win CIF

Mouse, maybe he is, but I do a favor for Aram, and he comes back with a cheap shot at me, and the Star-News, which I don't think was very classy.

Uh, SH does bend the rules but keeps it legal, thats pretty well known...

Fact not fiction...

AnyMouse...

Covina just finished graduating its Senior Class, one of my sons included...

Some serious football talent out there tonight moving on to the next level of life...

Sad to see them go...

Good Job Graduates, Congratulations and God Speed...

AnyMouse...

Dan...ummm i dont smear them...it is not smearing when it is fact that Judy North has turned the other check on more then one occasion...and not just with football players but also baseball players who were caught drinking in the parking lot...how about this for you Judy North once said that she had proof that a kid moved into her district when she did a home visit and he had 4 shirts at the apartment and no bed for him to sleep in...that is fact...this is common knowledge in the coaching community...you must be part of the Judy North south hills cabanna boy singing chior

Fred J,

I have to stick up for Living Legend on this one, I have never seen a post from him that has even been borderline, he typically has some positive and informative things to add on here...

Pretty classy guy from what I can tell by his writing...

I could possibly be missing something but I had to chip in and add my two cents...

AnyMouse...

Mr. Lengend
Quoting you, "If you don't want the scrutiny of these young men then this blog should not exist...I am sorry the amount of publicity that a 16-17 year old gets on this blog or your blog will and has gone to many of these youngsters heads."

These kids didn't ask for this blog, we brought it to them, and believe me, there are far more kids that are sensitive to what is being said about them, then there are big-headed kids, which is why I will continue to monitor my blog with caution. And you're right, I don't know you, but for someone who complains about kids being big-headed, and uses that as reason that they need be scrutinized, shouldn't go around calling himself a "Living Legend." Kind of hypocritical isn't it?

Husker,
or whatever you call yourself, get your
facts straight, Hockenhull only played 5 games,
he was not allowed to suite up in the Rancho Cucamonga game and was expelled the week of the Nogales game, which was the week before we played you,[I assume your a S.Hills guy] Demond Wallace
was also suspended in those games and only had significant playing time in 3 or 4 games.
So this BS that you come up with that WC kept him on for the season is just that- Total BS.

Living Legend,
You may enjoy smearing the S.Hills staff, but be real, I don't think Judy North and her staff would be so careless, they will investigate this situation with Wells and handle it properly, if he moves to the area they will have him and if he doesn't move then they won't, there is to much spot light on this situation to not handle it properly.

I'm disturbed by the exodus of so many players within such a short period of time, starters and non starters alike. But what troubles me even more is that the majority of players that have left for whatever reason are African American. Its 80%-90% of the athletes that have transferred out. There is obviously a deeper issue here than most will admit or probably comment on, but it is disturbing none the less.

Hey Freddie you dont even know me...so you dont know what i am about or anything...you talk about me scrutinizing and trying to embarass kids...where did that come from...in what way did i try to embarass a kid...dont blame me for the media making these young kids bigger then they are...i mean you are the one who has a t.v. show about prep sports...you are the one who is opening them up to this type of scrutiny...i have been on here since the begining of the blog and never once have i ever embarassed a kid or even gone in that direction...i have questioned character of kids and of adults...and right now i am questioning your character...
you can talk about the legend all you want...but you are right i call myself a legend...and you call yourself a journalist so that speaks for itself....the legend speaks

You calling yourself a legend speaks for itself. If scrutinizing and embarrassing kids that you probably do not know, have never spoken too, or may not have all the facts about is what this blog is about for you, then keep doing what you're doing. I'm sure it makes you proud.

Why do people feel the need to steal names? I know I'm not a star on this blog but I have blogged from time to time. That last comment from LA Conq about Amat not being able to beat Bassett was not from the original LA Conq. Seriously...grow up. Makes me wonder how many comments I've read from bluorca, MAT, AnyMouse, Mean Machine, etc. that were not from them. Aram, is there a way to stop duplicates somehow? It ruins the legitimacy of any dialogue.

Who says they didn't move?

Do these people not understand that if you leave a school for whatever reason, if you do not move, you are ineligible for one calender year...this is the CIF rule...

forgot to mention-hes at south hills now

dont know about bonilla but iwai is gone. His parents pulled him out before the school would "ask him to leave"

Freddie you assume to much...I was not replying to any certain person but to this whole thread...I understand that you were being cautious...but i asked the question "if he was expelled" so i was not implying that he did anything wrong...i was posing a question...if you dont want the scrutiny of these young men then this blog should not exist...this blog and blogs like this have put these young men in the fore front of the public...and i am sorry the amount of publicity that a 16-17 year old gets on this blog or your blog will and has gone to many of these youngsters heads...and they believe that they are invisible....so if you dont want them to be public figures (and publice figures are up for public scrutiny) then there should not be "breaking news" about a player leaving a school. The Legend Speaks

P.S. Your Still Soft

If thats true it doesnt bode well, Amat may turn into a local version of Cuba...

Sure the welcome mat was pulled at times but most of these sound like straight defections...

Amat faithful, what gives and what can be done to stop the bleeding?

AnyMouse...

anybody heard the rumor that another amat player has bailed? rumor has it Kevin Bonilla is now gone.

Living Legend, I deleted your message because you were responding to the previous message about Wells, so until Aram returned, I thought it best to delete anything suggesting that he did anything improper. And like I've said before, I welcome the "soft" compliments. These are not professional athletes or major college athletes, these are for the most part, underage high school kids.

Corey,

Do you really believe Walnut will score 3 points?

Thats Crazy...

AnyMouse...

South Hills
9/7 Trabuco Hills W 40-14
SH-13 6 14 7
TH-7 7 0 0
9/14 @La Habra W 31-18
SH-7 3 7 14
LH-8 3 7 0
9/21 Claremont W 38-16
SH-14 7 10 7
C-0 8 0 8
9/28 @Fullerton W 24-0
SH-3 7 0 14
F-0 0 0 0
10/4 Rancho Cucamonga W 28-14
SH-0 7 14 7
RC-7 0 7 0
10/12 @Los Altos W 52-21
SH-17 14 14 7
LA-14 0 0 7
10/19 Walnut W 49-3
SH-14 0 21 14
W-0 0 0 0
10/26 @Rowland W 56-21
SH-7 21 14 14
R-7 0 7 7
11/1 West Covina W 41-8
SH-0 7 14 21
WC-0 0 8 0
11/8 @Nogales W 38-18

Los Altos
09/07 Rosemead W 24-14
LA-3 0 7 14
R-7 0 7 0
09/14 LB Wilson W 17-14
LA- 0 3 7 7
LBW- 7 0 0 7
09/21 Damien High School L 16-22
LA-6 0 3 7
D-8 0 7 7
09/28 Saint Francis High School L 7-21
LA-0 0 0 7
SF-7 0 7 7
10/04 Western High School W 17-14
LA-7 3 7 0
Ws-0 0 7 7
10/12 South Hills High School L 21-52
-see above in South Hills column-
10/19 Diamond Ranch High School W 34-21
LA-7 13 0 14
DR-0 0 14 7
10/26 Charter Oak High School L 7-45
LA-0 7 0 0
CO-14 10 21 0
11/02 Hacienda Hts. Wilson W 24-17
LA- 7 7 7 3
HHW- 0 10 7 0
11/08 Bonita W 28-21
LA- 14 0 7 7
Bo- 0 14 0 7

Positive Amat Fan

I really do not understand your post...If there was any detailed bad mouthing of a player then it would have been deleted. As far as Amat fans are concerned, no Amat fan on here had badmouthed any player...including Wells. And further, all of the Amat bloggers on here ALWAYS support the players and I've been here since the creation of this blog.

I do appreciate what you had to say but when you make a blanket statement like that aimed at all Amat bloggers...well....blanket statements are never a good idea as you can guess.

So please, be more specific if you want to criticize anyone on here for whatever they may have said. I personally have my doubts that you are even a real Amat fan but rather another "amat supporting" imposter trying nothing other than to cause a stir up like so many have tried in the past to do.

Of course, I could be wrong so please, elaborate and use names of bloggers on here next time...

Face it Mat..,

After this season, Amat will be dropped down in division and there is nothing you can do about it. Then you will really talk up your glorious past. Maybe then you'll schedule us, CO or SH to boost yoour credibility, because right now you have none. So keep throwing those stones. You're a joke!!!!

LA Conq,

Western beat you last year and western will beat you this year. Losing to teams like Western?...your team is not that good.

waterdown football programs...be on FSN first...then talk...please a state title. gimme a break!

Your joking right! Amat couldnt beat Bassett this year. They are gonna be terrible. I am glad you are gonna back I dying breed or should I say a dead breed a myth. Wow never thought they would fall so low. I still say 1-9

Amat can go 0-10 but we still back our boys and support them to the fullest. You haters abandone your team with one little hiccup and start finger pointing once it looks like the playoffs are out of reach or you lose badly...I saw it with LA last year when St. Francis beat them and I saw it with SH when CO beat them down. Amat will do just fine this year. Call So. Hills a dynasty and have them at the Home Depot in a bowl game already but right now and I am not talking passing league Amat would beat any of those three..LA , CO and the next Oaks Christian (So Hills)....many will beg to differ but thats why you dont schedule us now and you have learned (CO) your lesson from the past...CO had the stones at least..what is SH and LA excuse....???

there no I in Team but there is a Me

Thanks for the religion class but how is that gonna help Amat win games? They still go 1-9!

I find it very disturbing and frankly, sad that so many of you so called “fans” and parents have the nerve to sit around and criticize these young athletes. It is quite obvious that many of you had your dreams crushed in high school athletics, perhaps because you, yourselves were not good enough? Why should you subject your children or other people’s children to the same humiliation and criticism that you may have gone through yourselves? Many of you parents and/or fans are so called “Christians” but in actuality you are hypocrites. Would a good, God fearing “Christian” be bad mouthing some of God’s most beautiful creatures- OUR KIDS? It has always been my philosophy that if you “can’t say anything nice, then don’t say anything at all.” All the time and effort you spend criticizing on this blog, could be spent supporting and nurturing our young Amat players. The only comments that should be coming out of anyone’s mouth should be POSITIVE.
Remember, there is no “I” in T-E-A-M.

Hey aram, I had to do it. Here is your best AMAT post to date. 1 outa 5 aint bad. Thats #3 and #4. You only get half credit on #3 for effort, but no success with ex players going to all 3 and on #4 since you still dont work well with Aram. LMAO Amat don't be mad, we're only being real....

August 04, 2006
CONTINUED ... Five things Bishop Amat needs to do to turn around its football program ...

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

1. Hire a name coach - This one is completely off the books now, but it's worth repeating. I am not saying Mark Verti isn't going to do a good job. Nobody has a clue about him yet. But the school had a wide open door of opportunity after Mike DiFiori resigned, and they hired from within. Great.
Verti could either be the find of a lifetime or a 20-something-year-old gamble that sends Amat fans off the deep end. Not exactly the predicament most fans wanted to be in, but hey.
Here's the thing Verti has going for him. His youth can be played two ways. He's either too young to handle such a position or he's the young guy who relates to the players. No matter how you feel about him, Verti is a former UCLA football player and he's got that on any other local coach. He knows what it takes to go from Amat to the big-time. He can wield his connections to the next level as something that gets kids to Amat because the coach can help them to the next level.

2. Field turf - Uh ... I don't care how much it costs ... the cash wasn't spent on a coach, so put in a nice field. Amat's field is already solid, but some artificial stuff would give the impression that the school is a cutting edge athletic institution. The new gym/weight room/locker room/coaching offices were a step in the right direction. When some kid comes to Amat to watch a game, he should see a state of the art field that will get him excited to possibly play there.

3. Throw rocks at South Hills, Los Altos and Charter Oak high schools until they crumble - Why go to Amat for $ 4-5 Gs per year when you can find a loophole and go to one of these schools for free?
"Gee lil Billy, you want to go play for Steve Bogan, Greg Gano, Lou Farrar or Mark Verti?"
And when the kid asks "Who's Mark Verti?" ... see No. 5 (below)

4. Website - www.bishopamat.org isn't cutting it. Most of the top football programs in SoCal have a website, Amat does not. Some of you might say "The Tribune's website is basically Amat's, so what's the point:?" Hahaha, very funny, but I want to read how the team did in its passing league games, linemen competitions and any other endeavors.
On that note, the football program needs to work better with the media. You know how many long conversations I've had with Gano, Bogan, Farrar, Mark Pasquarella, Mike Maggiore and Jim Singiser? Too many to count. Access to those programs might as well be an open door for the Tribune. I've talked to Verti once. Granted, it's still early. But I know what guys in my position have gone through in the past.
I've always had the vibe that those associated with Amat's football program feel as though it's the media's privelege to cover them and not the other way around. Truth is, it's 50/50 - it's the Tribune's privelege to cover the teams it does and it's the said team's privelege to get covered.
I do not feel that way with any of the other sports programs at Amat. The world-renowned Amat girls hoops team has been made readily available by coach Richard Wiard. And I'm talking non-stop features during the week leading up to a state championship gam. Think about how distracting that can be.

5. Promote the past - As each day passes, the school's glorious past gets further and further away. Amat has relied on name and rep way too long ... but if you're going to do that, then do it well. It's time to show today's teenagers what Amat's program is/was all about. Since tantalizing them with CIF title runs and league titles is not really an option anymore, how about making some of the stars of the past more visible?
The kids of today are growing up with a different Amat than I had during my not-so-long-ago childhood. When I was in HS, Amat games were a freak show. My boys and I went to games to see who the latest freak was carrying the ball for Amat. We weren't Amat fans at all, but we wanted to see the spectacle. I got to see Scott Fields, Rodney Sermons and others. I also got to see Amat make deep runs in the playoffs. Those games vs. Loyola were priceless.
I interviewed Ralph Brown III last year for an NFL playoffs story. I asked him all about what it was like to play for Amat back in the day. He said he can still remember what it felt like just to be the starting tailback at Amat. He said it was similar to thinking about being an NFL player. The reason Brown feels this way is because he grew up watching all the guys who played the position before him, and to be the next in line was probably a mind blowing experience. Who do the SGV football prospects of today point to and say they want to be like - Shaun Cody? Brigham Harwell? Bryan Payton? Daniel Drayton? Patrick Fuller? Bret Lockett?
I am willing to bet most teenaged SGV football prospects know about Cody and not Brian Russell.

Posted by atolegian at 09:34 PM

Let me say this it does not matter if Wells is going to South Hills, if he lives in the monrovia area like has been suggested then he is ineligible to play. The only way he is eligible to play is by moving into the South Hills district. But once again Judy North and her cabanna boy's club (otherwise knowen as the football coaching staff) have been knowen to strecth rules or just look the other way to get a player to be eligible. These are the facts. The Legend Speaks.

P.S. Aram can you find out if the kid lives in the Monrovia area. And if he does hold the South Hills family accountable if they try to play him. If he does in fact live in the zone that goes to South Hills and the address is legit then God Bless him...I am just saying it is fishy

Shoulda kept him for the season and then kicked him off like WC did to Hockenhull.

Jeremy

Donte is still attending LA as of today, but I don't know his football status. Apparently LA has about 5-7 qb's in the running. May not know who's #1 'till August. Don't know about the merchandise. Try calling the campus (maybe ASB office).

I'm moving to Florida, does anyone know where I can get some Conq. merchandise(LA emblem, hooded sweatshirt, t-shirt, etc)before I leave?

No,but if you need AMAT junk-look for the yard sales in the next few days

donte webb status is unknown...QB is gona be a suprise...you can get some merch. at the school's asb office

Is Donte Webb still at LA?

Who is the starting QB?

I'm moving to Florida, does anyone know where I can get some Conq. merchandise(LA emblem, hooded sweatshirt, t-shirt, etc)before I leave?

ARAM, POST SOME OF THE OLD BLOGGS THAT ALL THE AMAT BLOGGERS WERE SAYING ABOUT WELLS BEFORE THEY FOUND OUT HE SWITCH SCHOOLS, ALOT OF GOOD STUFF ABOUT HIM AND HOW AMAT IS GOING TO BE OK WITH HIM. KNOW IS LEAVES AND HE IS JUST AN OK PLAYER? LOOKS LIKE THAT GOLDEN EGG IS NOT GOING TO SHINE THIS YEAR AGAIN (OPPS I MEAN THAT GOLDEN "A")

what about the best team in the SGV? the SV dons!!!!!!

back to back to back to back CIF champions from 2002-2006

B. Ray is fast but he is so so reciever. I think he may be afraid to go the middle and get hit. He I feel could be a strong addition as a kick off return man...If So. Hills puts both B.Ray D. Wells back there on kick off returns and punt returns look out!....So many weapons there hope Bogan utilizes it all to the fullest...Gadget plays and a occasional reverse is what he can throw in at any time with this talent...This team is stacked now....That San Antonio League is in for some blowouts come league...that means all including WC.

Conspiracy Theory:

Chris Rix seen at South Hills. Wells works out at Chris Rix camp. Wells lives in Monrovia yet ends up at South Hills a couple weeks after Rix attends South Hills. Am I reaching?

Man!!!!! cant wait to play SH will be fun.. I cant belive all the hatters out there its funny. South Hills people dont let all this junk talk get to you good luck and will see you soon. Go Bulldogs..........

B.Ray... i heard a little about him people say hes got 10.7 speed... i hope south hills can capitalize and play this kid and not make the same mistake amat did

I am not a Msgr. Carroll fan but if he made this decision to expell Wells. It is about time he stood up for what Amat is all about. This stuff has been swept under the rug for years. Hemenway probably had a lot to do with it.

The Lancers will be fine.

As for South Hills, I hope you have a great year for the memory of Daniel Stroud.

YALL MUST OF FORGOT THAT WELLS IS A POSTMAN.............HE DELIVERS!!!

What happened with that kid Bradford Ray?? He is supposed to be going to South Hills this year too.....he is enrolling today i heard!

SH undefeated? I beg to differ. I would not be surpised to see them open 0-2 or 1-1. They've got get past Trabuco Hills and La Habra first. Those won't be easy games. If they get past those 2 then it is clear sailing till Los Altos.

Hey Aram when are you talking more about the July
6 Hall of Fame All Star game?

Aram

Mr. Machine missed a few things this week!

Dont believe evrything you read!

I stand corrected Aram. It will be a good preview of some top talent there. This Football season is really starting to tear this blog up in a good way. Lots of slinging in here and it is all just good sportsmanship..I pull for Amat thru thick and thin and to most it seems like thin but I am just not convinced that we will be as horrible as people claim here. When playoff time comes the last one standing in SGV will get my support. Aram ,Hypothetically, Amat vs So Hills this season who would win and by how much.?

Mean Machine,

Excellent work. I suggest everyone reads his info from practices he watched.

MATW,

July 5th's passing league at South Hills will also include Diamond Ranch and St. Bonaventure. So, Amat will be seeing former players against DR and South Hills. Yowza!

SH
9/7 Trabuco Hills at Home W 38-17
9/14 La Habra at La Habra W 17-14
9/21 Claremont at Home W 21-7
9/28 Fullerton at Fullerton W 28-3
10/4 Rancho Cucamonga at Home W 15-14
10/12 Los Altos at Los Altos W 35-16
10/19 Walnut at Home W 45-0
10/26 Rowland at Rowland W 49-14
11/1 West Covina at Home W 36-7
11/8 Nogales at Nogales W 34-21
LA
09/07 Rosemead High School W 14-7
09/14 Woodrow Wilson High School W 24-8
09/21 Damien High School W 21-14
09/28 Saint Francis High School L 14-17
10/04 Western High School W 20-7
10/12 South Hills High School L 16-35
10/19 Diamond Ranch High School W 24-14
10/26 Charter Oak High School L 6-35
11/02 Glen A Wilson High School W 35-8
11/08 Bonita High School W 31-14

Mean Machine

I was watching the last two days! The starting oline and d line was in weight room yesterday. You should have stopped by!

Average size is 210+ on both sizes of the ball. Only seven starting seniors left last year. Question will be at QB level like allot of teams, but there running game will be big with Barbone.

Interesting you mention So El Monte, score last year SD 34 SEM 19. Tommy Cogburn is the blonde hair young man your speaking of. He has 2/3 D1 schools that are going to make offers this year. Has downs best receiver in the valley! Legit speed and a good football player.

Just so we are all on the same page and to answer what was asked below....South hills has never won a Div VI title.....(they won all their CIF titles in Div VII and IX)so why would they ask to move up? Seems they've made a natural transition up in divisions once they've been successful at the lower divisons. Dont know how much cred id put in the divison VII titles tho, that division year after year was the worst there is (almont, del rio, mission valley, etc)
Even LA and CO won a few titles in that horrible divsion....

Circle July 5th 5pm on your calendar. Bishop Amat will be at So. Hills for passing league and then we will see what Wells is all about.

How does So. Hills get to just drop in players that live out of their district......ok I could see if Wells lived in Glendora or ERRRR Charter Oak , but Monrovia?..if he did not want to go to Monrovia then the next closest choice could have been Duarte...Sounds like Mom and Dad Shopped him around.

Too much hype about South Hills! Half of their roster doesn't even live in their district. Especially Dorian Wells who lives in Monrovia. I still think they will stumble down the line this year. I don't know how they made him eligible to attend there!!! He would been in a good situation at Monrovia! GO CATS!!! Maybe he got scared with that transfer they got from Texas. There are still better players than Wells out there.

Aram i apoligize for calling you soft then..it is the cabana boy Robledo who is soft then....but then again i am not surprised...and he did not have a good reason to delete the message there was nothing in there that was wrong or hateful...anyways that is why Robledo works for a second rate paper like the star news..

When you are put that high on a pedestal anything less than perfect and you will get cra- thrown at you. These are not the Miami Dolphins of the 70's......South Hills will choke and so will that new star of theirs.

Hi MeanMachine, Did you notice the practice was being filmed at San Dimas? Coaches also coach from film. Here'e the deal snap the ball in 3.7 seconds. Hope the defense get lined up. When the 4th quarter comes around we get stronger!

if SHHS is really the best team in the SGV then SGV football is a joke for reals. they would get absolutely rolled on by a lot of teams OUTSIDE the 626/ western 909 area.

Seen Sotuh El Monte yesrterday and here's the skinny:

They ain't San Dimas. These kids are tough, ready to play, all dressed the same and looking to get better. The line though not as big as years before but works hard and is well coached. Alot of "breakdown", assignment recognition and accountability goes on at SEM practice. I like seeing SEM "work". These kids don't "play" football they "work". They'll have fun when the whitle blows!

SEM has receivers and an offense that ATTACKS! One receiver in particular could start at ANY SCHOOL IN THE VALLEY! Blonde haired kid with wheels, guts and smarts...think Steve Largent. Too old? Look him up he's a Hall of Famer. Again this kid starts anywhere. RBs run hard and run N/S. The QBs are very smart. Good arms even if they are not classic drop back studs they get the ball to the receivers on target, sprinting or rolling out. Again it's attention to detail that makes these practices very effective.

The defense was swarming and "chippy", if you turned your head the wrong way ...LOOK OUT! Bang! and then they helped you up...AFTER the whistle. Everyone on the defense "gets to the ball" and SEM "rotates" players in alot to get reps with the starters. I liked that!

This is what Bassett and La Puente could and should do to improve. WATCH SEM GET AFTER IT! Coaches are very good at giving instruction, holding the players accountable and keeping the "pace" of the practice "DISCIPLINED!!!"

Reminds me of my Alma Mater. When you're on the field the Head Coach is the Boss but the Captains keep the troops in check. Great to see SEM working to build a program rather than just win games every once in a while.

It was impressive to see this team assemble, do their routine and then break for water. It was like seeing Marines at Camp Pendleton. Didn't this staff lose to South Hills in the Semis a few years back? Now I know why....very disciplined, serious, hard working Staff and Team.

Best wishes to the SEM players and coaches they'll be fun to watch!

Seen San Dimas practice today and here's the skinny:

Boy do these guys rep! Getting in alot of reps is good but getting alot of instruction during and after reps is better. I thought they rep'd way too many times. Maybe it's just Spring Ball but alot of times the defense wasn't even set at the snap of the ball. And that means two things ...the QB is young and nervous (understandable he's a Freshmen) but then the coaches should have slowed him down or got the defense ready quicker. Hey it's early but habits are habit making. I was really surprised by San Dimas lack of size and lack of aggressive STUDS. That's not a knock on San Dimas but more a reflection of the laid back personnel the coaches have to work with.

San Dimas is small, slow and not ready for PRIME TIME. But the kids all give it their all and in general the kids work hard and give their best effort on every play. Barbone and the starting QB were out so it's tough to really asssess SD. I really liked the Fullback.."rambling thunder" I think it's called. Also like this little RB named Brown. This kid loves daylight and just wants to get upfield..I like that! They also had two pretty good receivers but nothing like SEM or WC. As far as the linemen go it's a system offense that makes seams on deception and misdirection so who knows until pads or game 1.

Overall SD is a team that can only be judged when the pads come on. While other teams I've seen "look, act and live" football SD "plays" football. I saw them 3 years ago with the former coach and I still can not believe the lack of intensity on the part of the coaches, players and "captains" on the practice field... at least I think there were CAPTAINS.

Does SD have a team that can win 7 games this year? Maybe. But the onus will fall on the coaches who really need to do more instruction and less reps with this young team. However that offense does afford alot of yards for the RB but does that equate to wins?

Best of luck to the San Dimas football team and coaching staff. I'm pulling for you.

I bet Coach Bogan is glad that he brought Chris Rix in to help the program...he has been coaching the QB's at South Hills and now he helps bring in a talented player like Wells...talk about helping elevate the program! Smart move by Bogan...

the only people who are really not liking that sh has a chance at a state bowl is all the amat people just because they're not mentioned in this state bowl at all they don't want anyone else from the sgv to go

Just got back from the Dodgers game (winner!). If your comment was deleted, it was by Freddie Robledo. I told him to watch the bloggy and make deletions if it gets out of hand. I'm sure he had good reason for deleting whatever he did.

pretty simple answer. students are typically asked to withdraw from amat, rather than being expelled.

without getting into specifics said player would not have been "expelled" from a public school for his actions, but amat disciplinary standards are different.

Aram that is very soft taking that post off...never once did i bash the child...i did questions the Huskies morals...yes cause rules are rules and they like all others should have to follow them and if you as a journalist are not going to question this then who is? And I am sure you want to answer questions as much as we want answers. But i still believe that was soft, soft, soft taking that post off....can you give me a good reason why it was taken off...cause i felt when i wrote it that i choose my words carfully to just make a point of a CIF rule and to not let any hear say about the child come into play...if you read the post it said "if the child was (key word was) expelled then he is ineligible"....just wondering....you big softy

bishopamat.org/football they finally have a site, way better than before and its actually updated from time to time.

Aram I know your really trying to hype up this South Hills team beacause they have so much potential. BUT you can't even compare SH of this year to Los Altos of 2003. That team was unreal. I remember they dominated Charter Oak and South Hills that year and went on to take out a D1 caliber Orange Lutheran team. If there was a State Bowl game in 2003 you bettr believe they'd be the state champs.

But thats then and this is now. As the season gets closer this blog is going to get more and more competitive. And I Love It!

I'll answer for Aram. Los Altos is in very good shape, yes including the QB position. I have been to the practices and they are all focused and all of the players are working hard. The QB will surprise this year. If Aram has not been to LA yet, when he does go, I'm sure he will agree after seeing them in action. I'm not going to give you any specifics, you probably would argue it anyway. Just know that when the season starts Gano will have them where they need to be and LA will be just as ready and competitive as SH and CO. You don't have to believe me, come out and see for yourself this summer.

Aram answer the dam question on los altos or maybe you can't.

35-0

thats the pass CO, were in the present

Fellow SGVers,

I'm so disappointed in some of you. In 2003, we had a team called Los Altos that had a defensive lineman who now starts at UCLA, a receiver who starts New Mexico, a defensive back who starts at Oregon State and a defensive back who plays at Colorado. Mixed with some other All-Area talents, that team was widely considered to be one of the top two teams in SoCal. The team they beat in the CIF finals? Orange Lutheran. Is Los Altos a "FARM" program? Not exactly.

This year, we have the makings of a team that is poised to go on a similar run, but some of you just can't believe it to be possible. Please consider ... South Hills has a d-lineman who is headed to Oregon. It has an athlete in QB Brandon Parham, who is likely headed to a D-1 school somewhere. Dorian Wells is a D-1 player. Evan Heard will likely be just that next year. Damon Kuklinski? I don't know, but he's a football player's football player. We've had other bloggers visit Huskies practice and they were impressed by what they saw.

It worries me that one of OUR TEAMS being among the best in SoCal seems like such a stretch for some of you.

Some of you have brought up this whole "FARM" theory. OK, it's a good point. We have no "FARMS" in the SGV. But we have some very established programs with some of the best coaches around. These guys don't mess it up when they have the once in a lifetime team. You think Bogan is going to brick this?

The SGV might not have any of those "FARM" type schools i.e. Hart or O-Lu. But every FEW YEARS we do have a team that can stack up to anybody. We just don't do it with as much FREQUENCY as teams in other areas. FREQUENCY is the operative word.

This year's South Hills team, with Wells coming in, has the POTENTIAL to have a similar season to the 2003 Los Altos team. Remember, that LA team played walloped everyone but O-Lu and the blowout wins included games against strong South Hills and Charter Oak teams. South Hills will have to beat great LA and CO teams this year to have similar types of results. See any similarities?

Who knows, Charter Oak is very impressive and has a PLETHORA of players who will be even better this season. The Chargers could be up to the challenge.
But there's absolutely nothing wrong with urging the Huskies to dream big!!!

ARAM

YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB!
KEEP THE NEWS COMING.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE TOP 10 WIDE RECEIVERS AND LINEBACKERS.

alot of hatters on this blogg. just face it you guys dont like south hills because they are good and allways win.
Posted by: hatters at June 12, 2007 02:51 PM

11/24/06
Charter Oak 35
South Hills 0....enough said.

Aram answer a question for me,how is los altos a top team with no qb that is such a important part of a team its so easy to stop the running game in high school you need to be able to pass.

Also sh will never be able to play a state championship with the teams they play this year, weak except for maybe 3 of them and the san antonio league is a joke this year.

"Our Faith And Our Honor Held High.."

What is going on in the SGV? Is it something in the water? Why are we reading about this or that shooting or murder almost on a daily basis? Gang and drug activity are on the rise. Crime in general but especially violent crime is on the rise. Just take a look at today's headlines. Good families are moving to the high desert or Orange County in an attempt to escape this. It is no coincidence that Orange County gets most of the best players in this region of Cali. And I said "most"...not all. How do we fix this? What needs to change? People are afraid to step out of their doors in far too many areas. And these areas are spreading thoughout the SGV. I do not know the answers but one obvious solution has got to include discipline of our minors...not to mention discipline of their parents!

And discipline is discipline. Amat does have very high standards when it comes to this. I've said this before in that Bishop Amat is not for everyone. I do have to admit that I am surprised that he was actually expelled from the school but now more than ever everyone should be convinced that Amat is an academic school first and then an athletic one. And for those that are indeed scholar athletes that stick to the code, they will continue to make us proud win or lose. And yes, not every Lancer is a saint nor scholar but taken as a whole, the student body represents the best and the brightest the SGV has to offer...both athletically and academically.

I'm sure Wells is sorry for what he did and I'm sure he now understands the gravity of his situation. Kids make mistakes but all mistakes have consequences no matter what age you are. What Bishop Amat demands is accountability for their student's actions regardless of their level of athleticism. It would have been nice for Well's to be able to come back and be a Lancer, but one must not knock the administration for their decisions. They are not guilty for any wrongdoing. What they did was simply lay down the law and this action demands respect from all of the SGV.

As a football fan, I wanted Wells back because he's a great player and Lord knows, we needed that talent this next season. He will be sorely missed and he will do very well at South Hills but even I have to admit that this is just high school football. And Bishop Amat is more than just a football farm. There is no shame nor loss of honor for holding Wells accountable for his actions. I do wish him the best of luck as a Husky.

As for the rest of the Lancer Team....WE LOVE AND WILL SUPPORT YOU!!! WE KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WE KNOW THAT YOU AS A TEAM WILL RISE TO THE OCCASION AND CONTINUE TO MAKE US PROUD!!!

And now...about South Hills....

South Hills will have a great team this year and will probably go undefeated and win their division. But as far as a bowl birth in concerned, I just do not think the CIF would choose them to represent in one of the bowl games. South Hills did indeed play Esperanza for 2 years straight but they did lose both times. Furthermore, Esperanza has only made ONE Div 1 Final appearance which they lost to Loyola (This Loyola team lost to a 6-4 Amat team). Besides Oaks Christian who was in an obvious class all of its own last season, one must take a look at the other two Bowl representatives and their schedules....

CC CANYON played in their preseason....
SO Notre Dame (Farm)
Crespi (Farm)
St. Bonaventure (Farm)
Moorpark (Finalists in 2004 & 2005)
Chaminade (Destroyed St. Francis 40-17)

ORANGE LUTHERAN had an easier preseason but they still played and beat Los Alamitos. OL's lack of a more challenging preseason is justified though...they won the Trinity League beating Santa Margarita, SJ Bosco, Mater Dei, and lost to Servite by only a TD. They also beat LB Poly and Edison as well....

*note* El Dorado beat Dana Hills 10-7
Orange Lutheran beat Dana Hills 59-7!!!

So where does an undefeated South Hills team fit into all this? Well I think its more than obvious that they do not. And this is not because I'm bitter that Wells is going there nor am I knocking the greatness of the South Hills football program. It's just that in comparison to the top teams in the Southland, South Hills does not play anyone of immense value...Their toughest league game will be against West Covina? And their preseason?...

Look...Trabuco Hills (Former Div-1), Rancho C, and Los Altos all have good football programs. But playing these noble programs will not get you a Bowl Birth. This is especially true when your competitors for those same Bowl games are socking it out with teams like Los Alamitos, SO Notre Dame, LB Poly, Mater Dei, St. Bonnys, etc.

So take note SGV football fans! If your school is ever to have a chance at a State Chamionship your football program MUST schedule at least 2-3 great football farms and at least one of them MUST come from the Pac-5. But even this feat is not good enough...ya gotta BEAT these teams as well.

So again, South Hills will rock everyone socks and win their division and this will be a great thing for the SGV. This South Hills team would probably do good in the Pac-5 as well. But the State Championship bowls will go to the FARMS THAT PLAY FARMS. Nothing is ever going to change this unless of course, the CIF takes pity on the SGV....fat chance considering Orange County "runs" the CIF Southern Section.

That's all for now...thank you for reading my novel! =)

alot of hatters on this blogg. just face it you guys dont like south hills because they are good and allways win. first it was chris rix then the transfer whats next people. your mad because they got better homes in the area avg price 900K.

"Bandwagon"???

More like "Soup of the Day"...

Do you want threads on boring topics and schools that have fallen off the charts or on current and dynamic prep events that have significance?

Your on the money Aram, keep up the good work...

"Bandwagon", Get serious...

AnyMouse...

Aram,

I think your doing a great job and we love it! You're honest, imformative and knowledgable on the news and facts in the prep sports coverage. I appreciate you providing this blog. Unfortunately, you will never make everyone happy.

Keep it up!

Why all the amat bashing? Why not bash sh as well. Why haven't they moved up a couple of divisions.How many more rings in div.6(?)Can the school request to be moved up?.

So. Hills 38 - Los Altos 14
So. Hills 46 - Charter Oak 0

* We got Dorian Wells so a Additional 10 points was added into the above scores.

If it means anything to you, South Hills played Esperanza two years ago and that's a solid D-1 team.

Also, the Huskies scrimmage Sherman Oaks Notre Dame, so maybe that will tell people how close or far away SH truly is.

I was standing right there when Gano and Koffler agreed to play each other. Both had openings that week and could not find anyone to fill with. It was a natural fit and please remember that Rosemead was coming off a 10-0 regular season when the deal was made.

Rest In Peace

Bluorca
MATMTWTBAG
Joe Amat
Amat Fan
Lancer Nation

and God Speed :'(

Posted by: RIP at June 11, 2007 09:18 PM

Dads watch your daughters. The Wolf just checked into South Hills.

Posted by: lil red riding hood at June 12, 2007 12:05 PM

Probably the two funniest posts i've seen in a while

LUVTHISGAME,

Oaks Christian also had two of the top talents in the country. We in the SGV do not have that elite talent and until we do, we will have no coverage.

I also hope that D. Wells, McBride and any other Amat transfer does fantastic. It will only solidify Amat's case as being a place where they build up talent.

Anonymous at June 12, 2007 11:05 AM
"Wow Los Altos way to open the year with that tough rosemead squad. should be 1-0 after that one."

Even Gano knows it was a mistake scheduling them. After last years game LA wishes they would've scheduled someone more competitive. But it is what it is and LA can't change the fact that they have to play Rosemead again.

Fox did not only televise D1 games last year. Prime example was Oaks Christian in DX. I realize there is a game being played in show business, but we(the SGV) have to get in the game to be able to win.

Alot of talk about South Hills being undefeated already. Southwest division has some teams that have some talent. Artesia had a really good freshman and JV team. They have a really talented freshman running back who is compared to the Darden brothers and Stone from Dominguez. Which if you really follow high school football know that those kids are super talented. Those kids can hit the hole and fly and put their head down hard if anyone gets in their way.

LUVSTHISGAME,

Fox sport Nets loves D1 football. Step up and play the big boys in your non league schedule if you want to be shown on TV.......SH vs LA will do nothing for their ratings..TV is Show Business

Transfer So. Hills to the Serra league, they are looking to add a team.

You, need to call CIF and tell them kids can transfer anywhere anytime they want regardless of the rules. I don't understand how a kid can transfer from a catholic school and still be able to play. It's just not right!

All these players leaving Amat. Correction McBride yes I will give you that. The others Adams,Sermons,Tillis are all middle of the road players Dorian Wells did not leave he got KICKED OUT!...he wanted back in at Amat but the punishment had to be done. That asterik* will follow him if he gets to a college program. He may not get a offer due to it.

Aram,

You need to make calls to Fox Sports for their HS Spotlight show and get them on board for televising some of the big games this year like LA vs SH or LA vs CO. No better way to build credibility for a state bid then that.

What's funny is that I have emails saved from South Hills fans (PLAYER PARENTS) accusing me of hating South Hills and it being very obvious ... i.e. not standing on their sideline and so on. I've even heard that some coaches think I don't like South Hills. But now I have people telling me I do in fact love South Hills.

Covering prep sports is just awesome! It doesn't get any better.

Aram,

It is amazing, I think these guys are all drinking from the same cooler of Haterade. Any of your top 3 could potentially go undefeated.

Its obvious Amat won't be able to rep the SGV this year, so lets all get behind South Hills, Los Altos, and Chater Oak. Lets bring some deserved recognition to the SGV by building up these programs this season. Any of them has good a shot as any to make state.

Get the SGV Buzz going!!!!!!

Aram I see your SGV pride coming out and that is all good. A bowl game because they go 14-0?...you know yourself how many good teams did not get picked for a bowl game last year and So. Hills 14-0 or not will still not qualify. What has their team done on a consistant basis. Beat Orange in Championship a few years back?...there is no consistancy in that program and they are not a farm. Yes they may have just added a good player (not great) in Wells to their scheme, but playing in the San Antonio against the likes of Nogales and Walnut does not help them prove SH-t. I agree they should have a good year and compete for a championship but I know CO has something to say about it...they are not dead yet...you Aram have abandoned (it seems like) everyone else for SoHills because of Wells. What does that say to CO and others...you are bandwagoning Big Time....I can see why you popped a nut here, Wells is from Amat the team of your choice....well not anymore I guess.

My Advice to South Hills... 1 Game at a Time. Their Focus should be on Nogales and nothing more.

Even with Wells I don't think I would put South Hills in a Bowl game. Too many other good teams out there. Someone else on the West SGV Tribune blog made a good point about putting the hometowns of the players from South Hills. I heard Wells lives down the street from Monrovia High School. Questionable?

I'm projecting a 14-0 season. If that happens, what's so far fetched about the Huskies playing in a bowl? Shouldn't any SGV team have a claim to a bowl if they go 14-0? Or because their name isn't Mater Dei or Hart, the Huskies shouldn't have aspirations? It's amazing, even in the SGV some of you still bow down to teams from other areas.

Wow Los Altos way to open the year with that tough rosemead squad. should be 1-0 after that one.

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD, you know the rest.

Annonymous, that was uncalled for.
I would gladly have Wells on my team any day, along with McBride, Adams, and Sermons but what's done is done. Each is gone for their own reasons.

Leave - better yet, stay away.
If your kids attitude is anything like yours, we don't want him. Stay at your public school, they HAVE to put up with it over there and you'll save all that money to boot for better things.

Go Saints, thanks but the rules are lot more lax at a public school than a private one. It's up to the parents to be the role models for their kids. Not that we are any better (I'll admit that) but the odds are better here than elsewhere.

We knew going in to the first day of spring training that Wells was not on the team and was not coming back. This team from day one has accepted he is gone and everyone knows what he did to get him bounced. He not only let down the team by his actions but he also let down his parents who were some of the biggest supporters of Amat football (great individuals both mom and dad). Pleasure knowing both of them. The team has not played one game yet and because we lost Mc Bride and Wells means we are done?...could be and then again maybe not. The bashers are loving this I know but this team is getting ready for a season win or lose. It was no secret going in that Wells was not with us...we all knew. So for the newcomers to this story have fun with it. So. Hills put in a Bowl game already?....Get real Aram!

Anonymous at June 12, 2007 09:44 AM

Dont bash the kid! Raise above!

ATTN: all Amat Starter leave now before its to late if you want to get a free ride to the next level. Tell your mom and dads it free to play football for the public schools. Poor Amat its not the same. Heck i was thinking of sending my kid there to play ball but forget it now.

Bleeds Blue And Gold at June 12, 2007 09:43 AM

You are right, but it doesn't matter if your at a private or public school.

Student/Athletes have to follow the rules put before them. The next step isn't any easier and some of the pros and celebrities are just not good role models.

Do what you are suppose to do and things will work out just fine!

To answer some of the questions about Bowl games posed earlier. The three divisions are based on enrollment. Last year Oaks Christian didn't "jump" anybody to get into a bowl game. They were the highest ranked team in the lowest level of enrollment (not sure on the exact number but I believe it was 1-1200 students). Orange Luthran, even though they played the toughest division (PAC-5) for CIF playoffs played in the Division II game for the same reason. South Hills I believe would fall into DII for the Bowl Game selection so they'll be up against SO Notre Dame, Orange Luthren, Mater Dei. etc.

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD, accept no subsitutions.

As a Catholic school, AMAT has rules and regulations that would make public school students AND parents cringe. When you sign on the dotted line to send your kid there, you accept those conditions. I'm not saying that ALL Amat students and parents are saints, far from it, but they do have to walk the line and once it's crossed, it's over.

I heard what Wells and another player did but in my humble opinion it was not "expulsion material" but that's just me. In this day and age where there is no accountability by ANYONE (see college and professional athletes, hell even celebrities), it seems that the same attitude has permiated down to society overall.

If the AMAT football teams suffers overall because of this, so be it. If there are players who think they are above the rules then they can go to the public school of their choice and take their attitude over there. This is a TEAM sport, you support each other. If you cannot play under this concept, I suggest you take up golf or tennis, that way you don't have to share the spotlight with others and that goes for anyone else who decides to leave the school because they cannot follow the rules.

Win or lose, I will ALWAYS support the team, as will others. So go ahead and post your obituaries and talk your trash, it won't be the first time.

Wells, Welcome to South Hills. I'm sure you will make a great addition to an already awesome defense. One thing I know about Bogan though. Your gonna have to earn your spot.

Amat Insider, bluorca, MATMTWTBAG and other self proclaimed supporters on this blog. The time has past for all of your empty rhetoric. All of those speeches to Amat players and so called Amat haters needs on this site needs to be put into action. Your beloved football program is being systematically torn down and destroyed.

As Aram stated, no speculation. It is fact that there is something seriously wrong when you have that many players leave from one season to the next. I believe all the students are skilled position players as well. By the way, its still a long way to week 1. After the lastest developments, how much you wanna bet more will leave by then?

As alumni and parents, you have a responsibilty to the current and future students and athletes to do something that will affect change at Amat. The players cant do it alone, they are just kids. The players rallying around themselves for a difficult season, does not and will not cause the administration to pause and rethink their stance. Only alumni, boosters and parents can do that. If I were any of these, I would be leading the way.

If you continue to just sit on your "Amat Pride", there will be no hope for the program. Do nothing and you are at fault as much as the adminstration because you allowed this to happen on your watch.I hear they are even eliminating the tradition of Amat tailgating that has been a home game staple for years. It just doesn't sound like a strong D1 football program is of interest to the powers that be.

"SGV is NOT ready" sounds like a Damien Homer....

I bet South Hills, Charter Oak, and Los Altos will beat Damien this year if they all played. Those 3 teams are as good as it gets in the valley.

Trust me Mark Verti was informed as his role of head coach. Its no secret that several more qualified candidates turned down the job due to the stipulations put on it by the admin. He is bascially the puppet coach that must abide by what they tell him to do. It really sucks because he is a pretty solid coach. I guess he knew what he was getting into....

It all sounds like a conspiracy to me. Star athletes being asked to leave has never been the norm. For those that have played at Amat, We know of many instances where players have acted up a little i.e. 7/11 run, and players were not asked to leave. I think the administration does not want to see one of their own succeed.
For all us Amat fans, remember that 12 years ago Verti helped to deliver a CIF championship as a player. Now is the time to back the players, Verti and his staff more than ever.

They are being handcuffed by an administration that feels NOW is the time to crack down on misbehavior with expulsion. EXPULSION??? Seeing these players asked to leave/expelled shows me that the administration does not want to deal with the problem.

Imagine if Former Star athletes in the early 90s would have been asked to leave/expelled for their particpation in 7/11 runs. If I were Verti and his staff, I would just leave the situation after the year. They are not receiving any help from the administration as in past years with past coaches.

To the players,
Adversity can bring the best out of an individual. Your backs have been pressed against the wall and your allies ranks are thin. Work hard this summer and grow as a team.

Los Osos in 11 weeks!

what happen to all th amat fans!!! I thought Amat had pride? sounds like Amat is going DOWN. cant wait for next year when Amat plays with Bassett, northview la puent, and covina and el monte good start to rebuilt. ha ha ha

I think Amat should seriously consider re-hiring Deshaun (sp?) Burns as the head coach. That guy knew how to recruit and keep kids focused. He was a mentor on and off the field.

Aram I know you like to prop up the San Gabriel Valley but that's a little self serving. South Hills is a team that could go 8-2 as easily as they go 10-0. To say they have a shot at a State Bowl is ridiculous. On it's face it's absurd.

South Hills last year got their ass kicked by Claremont who got destroyed by Damien..opps they won 9-4. Then they get annialated by Charter Oak 30-something to nothing even though again Charter Oak was embarssed 2 years straight by Damien. Again where is this coming from?

Wells helps South Hills tremendously on defense in the secondary where they needed help but to say South Hills belongs in a State Bowl is not only premature it's irresponsible.

The best teams in the San Gabriel Valley don't even play on any level similar to Crespi, Notre Dame, Norco, Los Alamitos, Hart, Mater Dei or Saint Bonaventure.

Bishop Amat is a ghost of it's former self with absolutely no major talent other than Austin and even he isn't as good as advertised. Smitty from Damien might be a better O-linemen and Rabe from Damien is easily a better defensive player as is the Umodo kid from South Hills. Both are meaner, stronger and love the game more.

Now if Damien's WR/FS Taylor Herrera went to South Hills then South Hills might have an undefeated Championship season because it affords SH the next level speed to spread the ball all over the field and gives them the best defensive back combo (Wells, Herrera, Parham) in recent memory.

I'm not starting rumors I'm just saying it would take a mass transfer of SGV talent to 1 or 2 schools for the SGV to even begin to think they can "currently" compete with OC's best.

Los Altos Schedule 2007

09/07 Rosemead High School
09/14 Woodrow Wilson High School
09/21 Damien High School
09/28 Saint Francis High School
10/04 Western High School
10/12 South Hills High School
10/19 Diamond Ranch High School
10/26 Charter Oak High School
11/02 Glen A Wilson High School
11/08 Bonita High School

Strength of schedule goes to LA over SH

D3 is still too much to have a winning record this year, truly what does amat have left?

3-7 is generous at this point, the defections will continue at amat, try 2-8 or 1-9 to be real.

South Hills Schedule 2007

9/7 Trabuco Hills at Home
9/14 La Habra at La Habra
9/21 Claremont at Home
9/28 Fullerton at Fullerton
10/4 Rancho Cucamonga at Home
10/12 Los Altos at Los Altos
10/19 Walnut at Home
10/26 Rowland at Rowland
11/1 West Covina at Home
11/8 Nogales at Nogales

Rest In Peace

Bluorca
MATMTWTBAG
Joe Amat
Amat Fan
Lancer Nation

and God Speed :'(

Amat should drop down a division or two a re-establish themselves as a CIF champion. Build up to a division one power again, similar to Sherman Oaks ND. They built themselves up in D-3.

Wow Aram you really think SH, CO, & LA are the top 3 in the Southwest division? If thats really how it turns out at the end of the year the SGV will have to be recognized if not respected! We always get short changed by the OC and for that to happen would be awesome. Its also true about what you said about teams needing to get notcied early on, I guess I didn't see that but your right. Imagine a team from the SGV somehow sneaking into a State bowl game? WoW.

O and I think the championship will be something like LA vs SH. =D

Here are some selected enrollments of schools from the area plus a couple from out of the area.

Enrollment:
South Hills - 2,089
Los Altos - 2,062
Charter Oak - 2,136
Canyon Country - 2,683
Hart - 2,476
West Covina - 2,878
Diamond Ranch - 1,847
John Muir - 1,299
Duarte - 1,215
Monrovia - 1,864
Chino - 3,039
Rancho Cucamong - 2,794
Trabuco Hills - 3,104
El Dorado - 2,475

WOW!!!!

Add this to the fact that Amat has an agreement with all other teams in the Serra League that low man drops down in division after year 2 and this does not bode well for the Lancers. This is not speculation, check with AD Manzo.

"Small school brackets"?

That does smell fishy with only 3 state bowl games being played...

Bypassing stronger divisions when there are only 3 games makes no sense at all and sounds politically motivated...

AnyMouse...

New York,

When you say based on size I assume you mean student body, correct?

Oaks Christian doesnt have a very large student body from what I understand, essentially a Div IX or X school with mercenaries.

That brings up a good point though, how did they bypass larger schools in higher divisions to get into a bowl game?

Of course they arent divisions as we traditionally remember them, was there some behind closed doors BS at hand here? From Div IX to the "Northwest division" that allowed this?

Mighty suspect...

Any insight glady welcomed...

AnyMouse...

NY,

South Hills is the smallest school in the San Antonio League, but I don't know if it's small enough to be in the small schools bracket where Oaks Christian is. The teams get re-divisioned once the CIF finals are over.

All I have to say is get ready for a Charter Oak vs. South Hills championship in the Southwest Division. If that happens, WOW!!!

Uh, the Southwest Division's top three teams, in my opinion, are South Hills, Charter Oak and Los Altos (in that order). Mayfair was the No. 1 seed last year, but West Covina dropped them in the first round. El Dorado had its dream year last season and that won't be repeated (most of those kids graduated). Trabuco Hills is solid, but SH plays them in Week 1. Charter Oak and maybe LA are the only teams who can beat South Hills, in my estimation. LA and South Hills play during the regular season .... Dorian Wells vs. Bryce McBride? It just blows my mind to have watched both kids last year at Amat and now they'll be at SH and LA respectively.

Just to be clear when I say powerhouses I am talking about an 06-07 Diamond Ranch type of schedule...

DR had stones lining up those games for certain...

AnyMouse...

Aram,

Thanks for posting the list...

No real powerhouses on their schedule unfortunately, could hurt the chance to get into a bowl game unless the CIF matchups have some cred...

Which provokes another question, who in their division brings it and can provide that cred?

AnyMouse...

You have to respect that South Hills always puts together a tough pre-season. If they go undefeated, they will definitely not fly under the radar.

Because the bowl games are based on size, would South Hills be measured against Orange Lutheran and Oaks Christian?

Trabuco Hills
at La Habra
Claremont
at Fullerton
Rancho Cucamonga
at Los Altos
Walnut
at Rowland
West Covina
at Nogales

Aram,

Do you know who South Hills has scheduled and if so can you post that for us?

AnyMouse...

LAC,

It needs to be put out there right now that South Hills is one of the top teams in the Southland. Here's the problem: If the Huskies fly under the radar and come up with a 14-0 season that most people didn't see coming, then you can expect a 12-2 team to go ahead of them in the state championship bowl game, i.e. one of the usual suspects. It's important that all of SoCal sees what's coming and understands the expectations. If not, you surprise people and that's not a good thing and a more recognizable program goes ahead of them. I have a pretty good feel for how it works. There will be 10-15 teams in SoCal this year who have great seasons and three of them will go to the bowl games based on size. You want to have it already established that you're one of those teams GOING INTO THE SEASON. And if you don't live up to it, then so be it.

New York,

Thats a very good point especially considering that Amat is a Catholic school, that angle seems to have been left alone on the threads so far along with "Forgiveness"...

AnyMouse...

If it was a character issue, why not work with the kid and instill the values. Isn't there a parable about the Sheperd leaving the entire flock to bring back the lost sheep?

South Hills is gonna be a good team. I dont know about GREAT just yet though. We all know Aram is at an all-time high about SH but the season is still a couple months away. This is the same team that lost 40-0 in the playoffs last year to Charter Oak, who returns there whole defense. I mean come on an undefeated season and State champinship? Slow down here.

However I wish the best for South Hills and there season. Wells is a Great pickup and will help out tremendously. Kinda hoped he'd end up at Los Altos though. ;D

I just wanna cry....was really looking forward to a great season for Amat. Now I feel like I'm reading the obituary section.

Well it's no surprise that Amat instills integrity, morals and ethics in its mission statement. I guess this kid really screwed up. Look at the bright side....all the tuition his parents will be saving. BTW Rix was the other guy that was asked not to return.

Losing McBride and Wells at one time is the equivalent of losing McCutcheon and McCleskey had they played together. Looks like Notre Dame and Orange Lutheran will have a duck shoot at Amat.

i heard that covinas nick tucker is going to south hills as well, im his friend and he told me he was seriously thinking about it.

Damn...Now we know how everyone else feels when we get big transfers. That hurts. Eh, I wish the kid the best.

I'm actually very impressed that Bishop Amat would stick to their guns and "ask this kid not to return". Who was the last kid of his caliber to be "asked to not return".

this isnt new at all

First you lose McBride...now Wells, what is the world coming to? So I guess Caroll is judge, jury and executioner?