WOW!!! To start things off i know im a lil late on this topic, but i dont have much time to go online & blog how i use to... BTW This is a Coach from Ganesha's Freshman team, & iv'e heard so much this whole week & finally decided to check this out & man oh man this is crazy!!

I personally have met Coach Crutch from Duarte & my 1st impression of him was nothing but respect for the guy. This whole incident could have & should have been avoided.. But at the same time when things are put in paper & names are called out you outta know it's only a matter of time before something errupts. Since i met him though i lost respect for him & i will explain in detail a lil further..

Now as far as everyone saying that Crutch ran the score up on Ganesha's Varsity 85-0, i personally was not there, i was attending the Garey-Perris game but was recieving info throughout the night on how things were going & to me it didnt sound like the score was being ran up. In simple words we were OUT COACHED! Yes there were some things that Crutch could have done to take some heat off of him like taking out his punt returner, but at the same time if the other team just straight up doesnt come to play kick their a$$'S!!

A poster by the name of CEREBUS said it best:
"How are you going to come out in the beginning of the game and run the swinging gate as your base offense? The kids at Ganesha deserve better coaching."
Thats asking & begging for an a$$ wooping!!
And to answer your question Cerebus regarding why no one is fliping the script & questioning what's goin on @ P.U.S.D. especially @ Ganesha, it's because there is no support they simply dont care... & FYI Coach Cap wasn't the 1 runnin things when he was at Pomona, it was Coach Hud..

The reason why i lost respect for Crutch is due 2 a game this yr. I have taken much pride in coaching the freshman team @ Ganesha the past 4 yrs but never have i encountered a Varsity HC at a lower level game yelling obscenities across the middle of the field towards another coach on the other sidelines.. It all went down like this..

The score was 42-0 (in favor od DHS)in the 3rd qtr with 30 seconds remaining & Duarte had just advanced the ball to our 20 yrd line. backups were already in the game for DHS but all of a sudden a time out is called on the behalf of DHS.. All of a sudden the starting QB & recievers are back in the game & on the snap of the ball they pass it, score a td but a flag was thrown in the backfield for holding. Well our OC throws his hat down yells out " thats bull****, they trying 2 run up the score damn a**holes." & Crutchfield responds by sayin "hey this is football take it like a man, i f*ckin told him to run that play, & if you don't like it we can meet up in the parking lot."
And thats when i stepped in & yelled @ Crutch & told him "come on your suppose 2 be the Varsity HC & your cussin across the field in front of your players?"
After that the refs called the game we shook hands in the middle of the field making sure our players & their players didnt get into anything. Nothing happened after due to our OC heading straight to the bus.
That was very unprofessional of Crutch & like i said i lost all respect for him after that but still shook his hand, even after they made remarks of "thanks for showin up Ganesha" To begin with they're freshman were not that good our guys just didnt show up 2 play, ( its hard when your freshman team has never played a down of football in their lives before but still manage to win 2 games so far this yr) & the refs involved in that game were the worst that i have ever been involved with in my short coaching career.
Regardless of how things have gone down & all the rumors that i have heard about Coach Crutch he somewhat confirmed them after that incident, but at the same time in my opinion he seems like a good coach, just makes calls at times that are morally questionable.

Forget Special Teams? Thats a possible twenty to twenty five plays a game. Offensively and defensively, Amat probably plays around 30 players, Almost half the team.

OBBG,
Check MaxPreps in 04-05 we suited 75. And that was the 6-6 year when our numbers had already begun to decline. Salter and Parades had years where they had to go double numbers.

Heres the MaxPreps roster link for that year. I don't make this stuff up...Really!

http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/TeamFrame.mxp/California/Boys_Varsity_Football_Fall_04-05/AreaID-8e11e7d4-d3fa-4e6f-827f-652c29439d27/SchoolID-cf0faea7-1b19-4faa-aff3-250a6b29461a/Page-Roster

Forget special teams, Amat plays all together on both offense and defense a total of 18-20 players per game. the rest sit and wait for a injury or a blowout. I guess those reserves will be waiting a long time for Amat to blow someone out, but when Amat is getting blown out by the 4th quarter they surrender and let some reserves in. Sad but true.....You take most pac5 teams and they have some very good backup players that come in and give some of their starters a blow........then those starters are fresh and kicking your ass in the 4th quarter and Amats are sucking wind and have no legs to chase ball carriers. It all comes down to who conditions the best and Amat has but it also comes down to who coaches the best. You must coach a second unit to almost be as good as your first unit. It helps. That is why Amat is not successful. Bad coaching period.

Honestly, I don't know any coach that enjoys carrying more than a 40 player roster not because of all the flack he will catch from parents whose kids don't see playing time, but because of the management burden this would create on himself and the coaching staff.

Markham use to carry a 22 player roster, he kept the best 22 players and cut the rest because he felt they were dead wood on the team. He didn't believe in special teams so he can specically focus in developing his highly dynamic mis- direction offense called the Wing T. He was very unpopular because of this and the fact that he would run up scores on opponents.

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD...

Joe,
I can't recall the varsity suiting up 80 players, mid 60s has been the norm from what I've seen in the old programs. Freshmen suit 80, then the numbers drop at JV.

Observer,
When did you EVER see me put down the team? My concern is for the team as a whole. If a starter goes down because of injury, who is going to replace him? Someone sitting on his @$$? Keep the players fresh for a 4th quarter stand when we really need them. Nothing is worse than seeing a quality player sucking air during crunch time.
Next time try observing facts you jerk.

Parent,
I want you to list the kids that can contribute because I see the whole team contributing during the week. Sure some don't play as much as others on Friday but everyone has their important roles during the week.
I also see a lot of different players on special teams. Does special teams not count anymore?

You Amat people are hilarious. You guys think that everyone on the team should play. Play the TowelBoy. He is a part of the team.

First you want to win. Then you want to play everyone to develop them. Some of you sound like whiny parents.

"The other 50 kids on the sidelines need to get some time in games, even if just to give the regulars a little rest, something is better than nothing."

Who talks like this? I'll tell you. Parents of little johnny who has only played a little.Then complains and puts a divide in the team.

Breaking News: Wardell Crutchfield resigns
Duarte Head coach Wardell Crutchfield informed me minutes ago that he has informed Duarte High principal Dr. William Martinez that he has resigned. We will have more in tomorrow's newspaper.

.....For All The A** Holes That Wanted This To Happen....Are You Happy...You Guys really Suck....

One Of The Bloggers Said This

just talked to my nephew 8 player from duarte got suspented. NOBODY I REPEAT NOBODY FROM GLADSTONE NOT A COACH ARE A SINGLE PLAYER GOT SUSPENTED. Duarte aadministration pretty much throw him under the bus. I Guess it sucks to be duarte. One of the refs said it was all cruths fault.

"Aint That Kinda Wrong"

FRED!!! you was at the game tell the truth about what really happened.

Even though Amat What has good points, I agree with you Big Blue. Quick blows for some of the skill positions are good, I too think the line needs longer blows here and there.
In a tight game the 4th quarter is where boys become men.

Most are correct keep your two-way starters on the field until they can build a comfortable lead to win a game but they should have a 1 or 2 play backup PLAYER to give them a blow now and then......Sitting a Seals or a Prieto would be foolish...but getting them a blow now and then could help the 4th qtr. push in a close game...Offense and Defensive lineman are different if they are going both ways, they need a rest and A good quality backup to hold the fort until they can regain some strenght and energy...Stremple, Teter and Silva look to be wearing down in the 4th quarter and cannot make tackles on defense and have no legs...those men need help.

RHS 3-1 ... Rebels is JAA .Let's stick to the thread TOPIC .

TM

OBBG,
Right you are. But Anon was right too, amat "usually" carries 80+ players. Numbers being down is a little bit of a concern, as well.

TM,

A little HS nostalgia is good for the blood my friend, besides, it beats talking about your Rosemead Rebels....I mean Panthers. LMAO.

Dominguez vs. Lynwood last year was alot worst than Duarte vs Gladstone. People started to come on to the field in that one. And it was played in Compton.

Dominguez vs. Lynwood last year was alot worst than Duarte vs Gladstone. People started to come on to the field in that one. And it was played in Compton.

EASE UP.This is the SGV Tribune Blog .About OUR LOCAL SGV teams .This thread is about Duarte & Gladstone , NOTHING ABOUT WILSON . PERIOD . I do not care if Fred agrees with you or me , I am talking to Y O U , MULE . LOW BLOW calling me a Bruin .

TM

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD...

Annonymous, there are "only" 64 players on the Amat Varsity, you're a little off.

amat what?, keeping the best players on the field when they are tired opens the door to injury. If you lose starters that way, what have you gained?

The other 50 kids on the sidelines need to get some time in games, even if just to give the regulars a little rest, something is better than nothing. It all amounts to development, you can't improve by standing around.

TM,

who made you the host as to what we can blog about to make you happy..Who TF are you?...you are starting to sway into a Rosie category. This is a HS football blog not a SGV blog only as you put it and I am sure Fred will agree with me on that. You want to be host go start your own blog idiot...."I am going to cry and run away because they are not blogging SGV football only here"...and you call yourself a Trojan, you sound more like Bruin.

THIS IS A SGV BLOG . Who cares about the Wilson Mules run in the 70's. I remember those years 30+ ago . Great teams , but WHO CARES . Finish with the congrats about Cuccia being a great coach & running scores up in LA City . This is CIF , the best around . Leave all the city stuff for another blog .Nothing personal but where is this
going ..???

Belmont , as you can tell I was not one of the ones that got the college scholorship with my spelling of "Tactician", but as far as the onside kicks and being up like that we wondered what the F was Coach was doing, and we were into it being young kids, fired up and just not knowing any better, we were being directed by our field General Cuccia. We had no clue he had a grudge with Coach Loera of Lincoln. It did not make it right but that is what capitalist do, when the see the opportunity to gain from somehing they have a upper hand at they sieze the opportunity and thats what Vic did, he knew he had all the talent and he made sure he was going to make a statement and put Wilson on the map as football dynasty. He did at others expense but when you mention the Mules of the late 70's and the Cuccia years, most know the story of that legend Coach and Son Tandem.

Amat usually carries around up to 80 kids on Varsity. Only about 30 of these kids will see 1 or more plays during any given game and with 5-6 two way players that means there will be only 16 starters in a roster of 80 players. That means 50 kids will suit up and be side line spectators. If any of these kids can contribute will probably be to learn by observing otherwise they'd be playing. Any injuries to these starters will obviously, spell doom to Amat.

A good and fair coach will always field his best 11 players, after they have earned their spot.

But a good and fair coach also understands the importance of starting a less talented player in lieu of a first stringer, if the latter violates team rules by by missing practice or skips class. Even if it means losing the game, it's a character building lesson which we can all benefit from these days.

Coaches sitting kids that can contribute? Who? The RC game was not in the "bag" until the middle of the 4th quarter. They were quick and kept going for the big strike. There were a lot of backups in the Hart game due to injury and we were out of that game early in the 1st quarter. On a post earlier in the blog this week someone complained that coaches (all not just AMAT's) should keep the best kids on the field on both sides of the ball. There is a difference between contributing and making plays. Should we sit down Seals or Prieto because they go both ways? I get it about league play but still you want the best kids out there to give you a shot. There are opportunities to earn playing time, I know my kid did it. Bottom line I do not care who plays or how it is done but I want the best kids out there so we can try to pick up wins!

Muler 77,

Well spoken my friend. But I still have a beef with that "tactician", when you are up by 4 TD's in the first Qtr and still opt for on side kicks evertime your offense scores. What kind of lesson are you teaching your players? That my friend is like kicking your opponent in the teeth when he is already out for the count! He may have been a good tactition if he was fighting the Nazis during WWII but this was not good for HS sports!

I believe Ron went to Harvard and is now a Chiropractor? His Dad actions may have paid off, but he certainly stepped on alot of toes to have pulled that off.

Joking about HANGING A MAN FROM A TREE.
There is NO humor in this topic.No need to question my IQ , I could be as DUMB as a rock & know that is not a joke . At least not a joke I find HUMOR IN !!!

WEAK !!!

TM

The coaches at Amat continue to sit kids that can contribute. I do not see there thinking especially in a game like Rancho C, where the game was in the bank. The coaches need to Show their confidence in their coaching abilities that they can not only coach a first unit but they can coach a second unit......what do they think? they are going injury free?......heck more injuries will happen and their next in line will be way out of sync due to lack of coaching and continued emphasis on your regular starters....they will get their asses handed to them in league play. Going both ways with 6-7 players is a nightmere come the games against ND, Crespi and Loyola. They will get tired and beat down. Like last year, the coaches will find out again this approach will not work and they will be at So. Hills and Los Altos watching the CIF playoffs...AGAIN!

TM,

Come on TM try to read before you post. It's called sarcasm, not racism. There is a big difference. I'm starting to question your IQ level.

Belmont,

Your team was one of the weaker teams and altho it was wrong to run up the scores on your team as well as Lincoln, Marshall, Franklin, Venice, Hamilton etc. I felt Vic Cuccia's whole purpose in that approach was to promote his son Ron and get him into a good college for education, Ron was way to small to play d1 college ball. The good thing about all that was he got lots of lower Middle class kids from El Sereno to get scholorships to colleges. It is funny how you say that would not go over in todays HS game as far as running up a score. Heck Oaks Christian was doing it last year and some still do, but I hear what you are saying he kept Ron in there the whole game and he could have pulled him out but then Steve Clarkson would have done his damage so the same results would have happened...Eagle Rock was always tough on us. The reserves at Wilson during this time rarely played in blowouts and I see your point where todays team blows-out opponents with their second unit as well. Vic was a tough ass guy to play for but he was a good solid tactition of the game. He was by far not a idiot to what he did.

Drumkat,

Here is a strategy you might consider, that worked at Amat a few years ago.

Parent: "Hey coach, why is my kid not starting?
Coach: "Cause he plain sucks!"
Parent: "Oh looked what I found here (pulling out front seat Laker tickets)"
Coach: "You know he SUCKS that gatorade down like water, (grabbing the tickets from the parent's hand), bet you didn't know your son is the best receiver on the team?"

Joe Amat and Chris Rome,

I knew I came to the right place...thank you for the kind words and more importantly the good advice and voice of reason.

I am going to go to the AD instead and I have spoken with my son regarding his part in this, and challenged him to continue to find a solution.

It was never about becoming a starter, but about learning the fundamentals, discipline, and being a part of something bigger than himself.

Chris Rome

Mann I Know What Im Doing Capitalizing The First Letter Of Every Word....It Got Your Attention Right..Thanks....

Chris Rome

Mann I Know What Im Doing Capitalizing The First Letter Of Every Word....It Got Your Attention Right..Thanks....

Chris Rome

Mann I Know What Im Doing Capitalizing The First Letter Of Every Word....It Got Your Attention Right..Thanks....

Chris Rome

Mann I Know What Im Doing Capitalizing The First Letter Of Every Word....It Got Your Attention Right..Thanks....

DrumKat,

One of the best things we can do is to empower our kids to have an adult conversation with a figure of authority about something in which they disagree. If the coach cannot handle that conversation as an adult - then we have our answer and it might be time for YOU to have a discussion with the coach. Going over his head first is not a good idea - especially for a parent of a freshman. He's got 4 more years and maybe other sports to play. Tip: discussing playing time is usually non-negotiable topic that won't be entertained by many coaches. However, a conversation about how your son can *earn* more playing time should be valid. After that, re-evaluate the situation and have a meeting with the AD next, if necessary. Maybe even the Head Varsity Coach, since it is his program and he ususally doesn't want to lose players.

No need to defend the coach, but focus on your sons resiliency and how much better a person he will be at the end of this. Quitting may make hime feel better today - but working through the problem will make hime better for life.

Good Luck

DRUMKAT. You have done the right thing by not letting your son quit. Time to take the next step. People can only take what you give them. It is time your son starts stepping up and defending himself. Dont be a victim. Your Coach may tease or ridicule your son to get some emotion out of him. Its a guy thing. Same thing goes on every day in the outside world. You sound like a great parent. Dont give in now. You are raising a man, treat him like one..I am proud of you.

To DHS: Can you please stop capitalizing the first letter of every word?

You're only suppose to do it for THE FIRST WORD OF EACH SENTENCE.

Stop posting and go back to your ESL English books.

PASADENA PARENT WROTE:
SGV JAA
Maybe you should ask Pasadena how "fair" Duarte Hawks play? Oh you can't because Duart got kicked out of the leauge because of their "fairness"

That situation had nothing to do with the Hawks. A child from Pasadena played on one of the teams because the Panthers program wasnt playing, dont know if they were suspended or what. His brother who was a pasadena gang member use to come to Duarte's practice field and there was no problems. Off the field he had an issue with people not related to the program. During the La Canada game him and other Pasadena gang members went past the Duarte side with no problems. They had a confrontation away from the stands with other youth who had nothing to do with either program. Neither the Pasadena Panthers or the Duarte Hawks had anything to do with that situation and to say that the Hawks arent fair over a situation that had nothing to do with the program, that didnt even occur on their or Pasadena's field is ignorant.

DHS Is Right We Should Just It Alone Especially The Ganesha Part...I Mean They Couldn't Stop Those Falcons....And You Do Want Your Team To Play All Four Quarters....If The Team Gets Used To Only Playing 2 Quarters...What Will They Do When They Get To Playoffs And They Meet A Team Who Plays Hard And Is Good..What Are They Gonna Do Just Play A Good First Half They Get Killed In The Second Half...Come On The Going For 2 Probibly Was I Guess Bad...But That Dosen't Mean Start A Fight..If You Were At The Game You Woukd Kow What I'm Talking About...Cheap Shot.When The Punt Was Clearly Out Of Bounce...And For The Falcon Coach He Is Not A Bad Coach...I Heard His Players Must Have A 3.0 To Play On His Team....And He Helps His Players Get Into College As Much As Possible...He Might Say Things You Dont Like But Who Cares What You Think....He Tells The Truth...Crutchfield Im On Your Side... Because There Are 2many Haters... But Where Would The World Be Without Haters...Keep On Hating Your Maknig Crutchfield Famous....But Anyways Duarte Keep Playing All Four Quarters Hard And With Pride..Forget What Other People Say You Have Your Fans And They Are Going To Cheer For You Either Way So Everyone Else Can Go Home...Oh And How Dose He Show No Class He Wasn't The Ons Swinging At Players..hummmm "Sanchez" Was He Even Threw a Punch At Crutchfield I Even Saw That...But Crutchfield Didn't Fight Back He Was Worried About His Players Not Coach Which Showed No calss
....Thats Basically Like Saying Its Ok To Fight If The Coach Is....RIGHT.....But Duarte Is Gonna Brush That Dirt Of There Sholders...They Always Do..Maybe You Guys Should Try To Brush The Hate Off Of Yours....

This probably doesn't fit this thread, but I'm looking for some feedback.

My son has never played competitive football until this year which is his freshman year. I told him it was going to be tough, that it's called 'Hell Week' for a reason, etc. He said that he wanted to join the team anyway. So knowing what was coming next, I signed him up.

After the 1st day of practice he wanted to quit..I said no-you made a commitment. After practice in full pads (that he did not know how to put on and was ridiculed by his coach for it), in 110 degree weather he wanted to quit-I said no,you knew it was going to be hard. After four games and not playing a down he wanted to quit...I said no, you are on the team. After the defeats of his team he wanted to quit...I said it's not about the win/loss record.

But I can no longer defend the Coach anymore. Using vulgar language, and humilation to 'motivate' and allowing the other kids on the team to do the same to the 2nd string in an unsupervised locker room is no longer acceptable. There would be no point in going to this man...he has already demonstrated a total lack of maturity and reason. I'm going to the principal.

Again...not asking permission...looking for feedback

Ok People Im Going To Help You Guys A Little Bit...Duarte Beat Ganesha 85-0 yea yea so what..Duarte Only Ran 22 Plays..They Threw The Ball Four Times..Its Not Duarte's Fault That Ganesha Couldn't Stop Duarte..The Falcons Arent A Big Team So Who Can They Really Put In...Seriously Everybody That Did Play Scored...So Give That Up....Also You Guys Are The Most Ridiculous Bloggers In The World..From Racist comments to Just Dumb Remarks..Duarte Is Not Just Worrying About League They Are Worrying About Cif So They Are Going To Play Hard For All Four Quarters..Playoffs Has Teams Which You May Have To The End Of The Game...Can Somebody Tell Me One Wrong Thing Crutch Did...Come On I Know The Man And He Is Not Negative At All...He Gives His Palyers Good Pep Talks....Can Somebody Tell Me How Duarte Plays Dirty....Duarte Has Some Of The Best Players And Because They Win Dont Make An Stupid Excuse For It...Who Cares What You Think..Duarte Is Still Gonna Win...They Can Suspend Anybody They Want As Long As 11 Players Is Out There Playing Hard They Will Do Good...You Guys Should Come To Duarte Games More Often... MAybe You Guys Should Come To Coach Crutchfields Class One Day..Great Teacher...Really Important For Those People That Think Duarte Has a Bunch Of Thugs...Your Wrong..Really Wrong..Duarte Has Well Mannered Players...Just Because There was A Fight..So I Guess If Los Altos, Diamond Ranch, Charter Oak, Glendora, South HIlls, Bishop Amat, Damien, San Dimas, Rosemead Faught They Would Be Concidered Thugs To...You Guys Are Ridiculous. How About Lets End This Blog On This Issue Because You Guys Are The Ones That Make This Issue Even Bigger Then It Is..Duarte And Gladstone Are Like Little Rivals...This Situation Is Going To Get Taken Care Of The Right Way...Your Comments Wont Help The Decision So Shut Up And Go Blog About Something Else....I'm Done........

Go Falcons.....

Good Luck Gladiators.........

Ok People Im Going To Help You Guys A Little Bit...Duarte Beat Ganesha 85-0 yea yea so what..Duarte Only Ran 22 Plays..They Threw The Ball Four Times..Its Not Duarte's Fault That Ganesha Couldn't Stop Duarte..The Falcons Arent A Big Team So Who Can They Really Put In...Seriously Everybody That Did Play Scored...So Give That Up....Also You Guys Are The Most Ridiculous Bloggers In The World..From Racist comments to Just Dumb Remarks..Duarte Is Not Just Worrying About League They Are Worrying About Cif So They Are Going To Play Hard For All Four Quarters..Playoffs Has Teams Which You May Have To The End Of The Game...Can Somebody Tell Me One Wrong Thing Crutch Did...Come On I Know The Man And He Is Not Negative At All...He Gives His Palyers Good Pep Talks....Can Somebody Tell Me How Duarte Plays Dirty....Duarte Has Some Of The Best Players And Because They Win Dont Make An Stupid Excuse For It...Who Cares What You Think..Duarte Is Still Gonna Win...They Can Suspend Anybody They Want As Long As 11 Players Is Out There Playing Hard They Will Do Good...You Guys Should Come To Duarte Games More Often... MAybe You Guys Should Come To Coach Crutchfields Class One Day..Great Teacher...Really Important For Those People That Think Duarte Has a Bunch Of Thugs...Your Wrong..Really Wrong..Duarte Has Well Mannered Players...Just Because There was A Fight..So I Guess If Los Altos, Diamond Ranch, Charter Oak, Glendora, South HIlls, Bishop Amat, Damien, San Dimas, Rosemead Faught They Would Be Concidered Thugs To...You Guys Are Ridiculous. How About Lets End This Blog On This Issue Because You Guys Are The Ones That Make This Issue Even Bigger Then It Is..Duarte And Gladstone Are Like Little Rivals...This Situation Is Going To Get Taken Care Of The Right Way...Your Comments Wont Help The Decision So Shut Up And Go Blog About Something Else....I'm Done........

Go Falcons.....

Good Luck Gladiators.........

its funny how coach sanchez is mad about the score and how duarte ran up the score

maybe next time he wouldnt talk b*ll sh*t
before the game

but its all good cause next year duarte is really gonna run up the score, this year they was just playing with them

when coach cuccia ran up the score 63-0 at halftime in 1977 and forced lincoln high school to quit at halftime was due to a personal problem he had with then lincon coach Dave Lorera, who had previously coached the J.V. at L.A. Wilson. i knew dave and he was a stand up guy, as for vic cuccia , he was one of the biggest idiots ever at wilson high school.

Muler 77

But running up the score in order to break records at the expense of the oppronents dignity is acceptable? Sounds like self promotion to me, "hey look at me, I'm better than Haden".

What Wilson did in the late 70's was shameless and would not have been tolerated today. Haden and McKay broke records but they did not run up scores on weak opponents.

TRYING TO RUN 100 POINTS ON ANOTHER TEAM AND THEN GOING FOR TWO WHEN YOU ARE AHEAD BY LOTS SHOWS WHY THIS COACH CROTCHFIELD IS A IDIOT AND SHOULD NOT BE COACHING. I COULD IMAGINE WHAT HIS PEP TALKS ARE TO HIS PLAYERS, PLAY DIRTY BALL. BACK IN THE 70'S A COACH FROM LA WILSON, COACH CUCCIA WAS RUNNING THE SCORE UP ON HIS OPPONENTS AND WAS CATCHING HELL FOR IT. HE MADE A TEAM LINCOLN QUIT AT HALF TIME AND LEAVE THE GAME, AS HE RAN UP 63 POINTS TO THEIR ZERO POINTS BY ONSIDE KICKING AND RECOVERING THE BALL EVERYTIME HE SCORED , HIS REASON WAS DIFFERENT AS TO CROTCHFIELDS, VIC CUCCIAS SON RON WAS THE QB AND THEY WERE TRYING TO BREAK RECORDS BACK THEN NOT INCITE BRAWLS. CUCCIA SON RON WENT ON TO BREAK MOST IF NOT ALL OF BISHOP AMATS PAT HADENS RECORDS. CROTCHFIELD NEEDS TO BE REPRIMANDED OF HIS ACTONS.

I am not condoning this fight, but unfortunately, this fiasco at Gladstone was inevitable, It would have happened sooner or later. It was a matter of when. Crutch planted the seeds and now he needs to face up what he sowed.

Winning games are great, but if your negative energy and emotions spill out onto the field and your poor lack of judgment by not instilling the finer qualities of being a good sportsman as evidenced by your pre and post game comments and actions, then the winning comes at a steep cost (disgrace, disrespect, discredit, dishonor etc), that smart parents are not willing to pay. Only you, have brought this shame upon yourself, kids, coaches and community. This goes for Coach Sanchez as well.

Humility goes along way my friend.

I am not condoning this fight, but unfortunately, this fiasco at Gladstone was inevitable, It would have happened sooner or later. It was a matter of when. Crutch planted the seeds and now he needs to face up what he sowed.

Winning games are great, but if your negative energy and emotions spill out onto the field and your poor lack of judgment by not instilling the finer qualities of being a good sportsman as evidenced by your pre and post game comments and actions, then the winning comes at a steep cost (disgrace, disrespect, discredit, dishonor etc), that smart parents are not willing to pay. Only you, have brought this shame upon yourself, kids, coaches and community. This goes for Coach Sanchez as well.

Humility goes along way my friend.

Reading all the blogs that have categorized Duarte residents and the High School as trash and illiterate people, I decided to look up Duarte High School under Wikipedia. Interesting! Under Athletics I read that in 2007 the boys football team went to C.I.F. and defeated La Canada and Santa Clara to reach the quarter finals, losing to Verbum Dei.It also stated that Michael Harris now attends U.C.L.A. A perfect venue for "thugdom". It also stated that Dennis Weathersby,a Duarte High alum and former football player was a Pac-10 All Academic team member 4 consecutive years at Oregon State. Harris and Weathersby just happen to be African Americans. Also recent accomplishments stated in Wikipedia are: Duarte High's Solar Boat team placed 1st in novice for the 2007 Solar Cup at Lake Skinner; Duarte Falcon Academic Decathlon team placed 5th in Los Angeles County;On April 16th, 2007, D H S became a California Distinguished School; On April 17th, D H S received the Title 1 Academic Achievement Award. As far as Notable Alum, I know of many, going back to Sam Shephard,Pulitzer Prize winner and actor/writer.And I'm sure Gladstone and the city of Azusa have many honors. I don't agree with some of Crutchfields philosophy's either. But don't blanket schools or communities as trash because of a stupid fight or the ego's of certain individuals.And did anyone mention that Gladstone's Band was invited to come to Duarte's side and play with the DHS band and were playing together when this debacle started? I gotta go,I might miss the Jerry Springer Show !

I thought the NBA and MLB were the only places where there are crooked officials.Bradley episode all over again.

It ain't about race and it is about race. Who are we kidding. Is Bobby Knight better than Crutch. That guy is in a league all his own. See his farewll speak at IU? "Bury me face down so people can kiss my A$$!!!" ? Is that not a moron or what. But the bigger picture is the reputation of the school. And Crutch doesn't help his case when the powers that be leave him hanging so to speak. So maybe 95% of the vemon Crutch gets is because of his skin color. Is it any different for the players when they leave the school and people hear DUARTE. Who fosters a negative image. No slight to the Amat people but has anyone ever read a consistently positive blogger from that school? I haven't. Oh Yeah one Amat blogger who left in after they made comments about his son, wife or dog. Is Amat a poor school choice? Based on the blogging you'd think so. I know the that's a stupid comparison but ask yourself how many people take the time to find out for themselves. Perseption trumps reality when I'm the Employeer or College Recruiter. Clean it up coaches. Everyone has enough blame on their hands. Smart money is Crutch is fired soon and that's too bad if the Duarte fans and players had a say in deciding. Once again it's all about life lessons and Coach Crutch should learn his and we should all recognize our own biases.

ANON @ 1:51 ...OVER THE LINE ! NO RACISM ON THIS BLOG ....PERIOD ! NO ROOM FOR IT .

TM

Poor Crutch, thank God you for the ACLU and Civil Rights movement otherwise these bloggers would have have pulled you out on the streets and looked for the biggest tree limb to hang you.

Any coach that ask a jounalist to print. "He's a coward and you can print that!" Gets fired in my book. No questions asked. That's how football rivalries become neighborhood rivalries become gang banging tragedies. I know the slippery slope I'm building but ever heard of the Maravilla,Bloods,Crips and other nefarious do nothings. They probably killed more youth lives and I'll bet no one knows how it all started.

Crutch unfortunately you gotta go. That's life in the big city my friend. It's called CYA "Cover Your Assets" and this school district is on notice. The next time someone gets hurt the school district will pay out $$$$$Millions. Being a Head Coach is more than W/Ls it's about proper conduct or Chamionships. As cold blooded as that. You're tipping the balance sheet too much to the negative column.

Don't worry Coach Urias needs a running mate.

Wait what am I saying?

Like i said before duarte only has about 1100 students in the entire school. So i sure when you play a team like charter oak, south hills and los altos, they would proably lose. plus we dont recruit and we dont get 10 tranfers in 1 year either. Every year is a grantee that you will win a lot of game with such a small school. We where not good my senior year, but the year before where a pretty good team. I not saying that any player are should not be suspented for what took place on the field that night. But you have to take everything in to concideration when handing out suspention time. As long as we get into the playoffs we will be fine.

PS What did cruth do to be suspented? He didnt throw a punch. He tryed to get his player off the field. Duarte has a lot more to lose then Gladstone. Hopefully we can come to a fair Conclusion. maybe all the people that were not at the game can tell me what happened.

I think ayala will win a few game in league too.

duarte if you want some respect as a team and a school take the first step and hand out some punishment for some of your players actions and gladstone should do the same. Duarte this is wher eyou program can go two ways. One earn repects be held accountable and punish anyone gulity of thier actions from Friday or forget about and lose the respect you have been trying to build.

duarte if you want some respect as a team and a school take the first step and hand out some punishment for some of your players actions and gladstone should do the same. Duarte this is wher eyou program can go two ways. One earn repects be held accountable and punish anyone gulity of thier actions from Friday or forget about and lose the respect you have been trying to build.

Pas,

Sorry don't know the history with Duarte and Pasadena... Can only speak (and was only speaking) about the last 2 years I have personally witnessed how Duarte JAA acts.

That as I mentioned before, is ok by me. Again, I was much more disappointed by the actions of the Covina JAA group than Duarte's.

SGV

Fred J. Robledo,

This is Wardell Crutchfield. I do not appreciate that you give the entire San Gabriel Valley a place to post negative comments about the game on Friday night. This blog does more harm than good by stirring up emotions and allowing people to publish and share their negative views.
Why haven't we heard from you Fred?

Wardell "Crutch" Crutchfield

SGV JAA
Maybe you should ask Pasadena how "fair" Duarte Hawks play? Oh you can't because Duart got kicked out of the leauge because of their "fairness"

Crutchfield is God at October 1, 2007 10:46 AM

No Honor...

Big Loser!

THE CRUTCH WINS FOOTBALL GAMES AND GIVES HIS PLAYERS THE GREATEST MEMORIES OF THEIR LIFETIME. IT'S ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE FALCONS - YOUR LIFE WILL GET NO BETTER. YOU NEED TO THANK THIS MAN AND HONOR HIM JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.

CRUTCH IS UNTOUCHABLE. AND SO ARE THE FALCONS THIS YEAR. SCREW GLADSTONE.

CRUTCH!
CRUTCH!
CRUTCH!

GO FALCONS. PEOPLE HATE US ALL YOU WANT BUT WE WON'T LOOSE EVERY WEEK WE JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER.....

Coach Sanchez if this were Sparta you would be left in the wilderness to find your way back home. See the movie -it's pretty clear. Coach Cruthfield the time has come to grow up and be accountable to the reality of your position and the vital role you play in the community, the school and the team. Being a lightning rod and making boisterous comments are the acts of a "juvenile". It's time to conduct yourself with some level of professionalism. You are not a victim. Believing that you are only feeds the monster of insecurity and neglect. Duarte deserves better and I'm sure you can perform and conduct yourself accordingly. I was once a part of a football brawl on a scale much larger than this. I watched Coaches, Dads, Alumni attack each other and several students like rabid dogs. I went to protect my brother and found myself protecting no one. Either you're part of the problem or part of the solution. It's your call.And that goes for all the coahches. Damien and Glendora, both well to do communities, were not immune to this behavior last year. Although not on this scale. Hold your pride and be examples to those that are watching. Have a great season.

Even with all of Duarte's D1 prospects and Harris last year, Glendora absolutely ROMPTED on Duarte. It wasn't pretty at all.

Coaches need to be held accountable for all actions from their players

My son's JAA team also has had the opportunity to play this year against the Duarte Hawks teams. Let me tell you, they play hard, clean and with Class!!

No reason to put down that program, strickly because it is located there.

We have also played AT Covina and one of the previous bloggers is DEAD ON!! Talk about parent's overdoing it...... THEY DO, RUN ACROSS the FIELD yelling OUR HOUSE.... Their PA Announcer is ridiculous, he was waving his fingers in the air, flashing symbols, YES, SYMBOLS!!

But NO mention of that here.... WHY?? Because it is located IN COVINA!!!

I was born and raised in Azusa and if that had happened there... OH Man!! It would've been the same response.....

How many of the Covina parents and players are ACTUALLY living IN COVINA????

Sort of a double-standard here.... too bad. Again, Duarte showed nothing but class and in this case (against us) handled a loss with just as much if not more class then is normally seen in the JAA environment!!

SGV

Getting beat in football is a reality. Don't like getting killed. Don't play. That's why football is a man's sport. Too many "coach" potatoes on this blog. Too many cry babies and complainers. That's why football is a sport watched by many and played by few. Every year at every level teams get beat up and beat up good. Then one day Boise State gives Oklahoma the lesson of it's life. Sometimes a special team comes together and is lead into battle with nothing more than a plan, individual commitment and collective courage and they slay Goliath. It doesn't happen enough for some but then Appalaciah (sp) State goes into the Big Bad Blue House and not only beats Michigan but breaks their heart in the process. Time to nut up and stop crying. Every football play is an individual battle. Every player has an individual task. The score means nothing. Your effort and your willingness to compete as an individual and as a team will say more about you then the scoreboard wil ever document. Diamond Bar has risen from the ashes to fight the good fight. Why can't Ganesha. To the Ganesha players, parents and coaches: The other side has nothing to do with your effort and your commitment to each other. Every obstacle is an opportunity to test yourself. Some day your sons may be asked to do courageous deeds. It starts today. The preparations for life's challenges is never easy but neither being labeled a quiter. As my ancetsor's say, "Today is good day to die!" Fight the good fight and be remembered for your accomplishments rather than your shortcomings.

There is no room for fighting on the field. Duarte is probally the top notch team in the the Montview League but they are quickly making enemies by running the scores up. What they did to Ganesha High School was a embarassment to football in the valley. There was no reason to run up the score like that. Duarte's Coach lacked the professionalism to let that happen. Then against Gladstone going for two points with that huge of lead was a mistake. Ans why would Harris be returning a punt with a 34-3 lead but then again he was returning punts with a 51-0 lead against Ganesha. Hopefully CIF will take a lead from the NFL and punish those who were involved. It's too bad Duarte did schedule someone like Charter oak, Glendora, Los Altos or Diamond Ranch and really see how they like to be on the end of 42-0 score.

What Duarte needs is another beating like Glendora gave them last year to fall back to earth!

Without knowing too many details , Duarte can be ROUGH ! But as far as fights on the field ... NO ROOM FOR IT , PERIOD ! All players & coaches involved should be suspended not for ONE WEEK, FOR ONE MONTH. Then they will learn . BAD FORM BOTH SCHOOLS !!! Way to NOT REPRESENT THE SGV .

FIGHT OVER

TM

Dear SGV FBALL FAN:

I agree with you that a high school football game should not turn into a free for all. I also agree with you that the Montview League does not have the best football teams. That being said, I completely disagree with your comment about Duarte and Azusa being trash communities.

I grew up in Azusa and I went to Gladstone High School. I never heard any gunshots in the 14 years that I lived in Azusa. I had excellent teachers at GHS. As a matter of fact, I went on to get my Ph.D. from the University of Texas -Austin and I am now a professor at a local university. In addition, I know that many of my classmates went on to be very successful and productive citizens of their respective communities.

I think you need to keep your comments specific to high school sports and not start to vilify entire communities. As a matter of fact, you should not post any other comments on this site until you have something productive to add. But based on your comments, I would say that we will have to wait a long time.

Both Coaches should be required to attention more of these meetings so they make sure not like this ever happens again....

CIF Web Site
09/19/07 PURSUING VICTORY WITH HONOR, ONE DAY COACHES TRAINING
The next training is scheduled for Thursday, October 18, 2007

Cat,

Curving the topics to more positive things that make us a more cohesive and civilized society is the way to go...

We need less drama in the SGV not more, Fredddie take heed and for what it is worth I see this blog bringing us together as a force to be reckoned with...

In other words us as in the SGV...

Joe Colt

Joe Amat

I was not offended by your post, but for those who just see things in black and white could be. I just wanted to point out the fact that your mention of the three reps from the sports world happend to be Black Athletes. And my point is just think of the great things that atheltics have given to our society, thats why we are on this blog to enjoy the entertainment of the positive things that hopefully will come out of this...Maybe Fred should do a story on the Running Back so that people can humanize some these players...I'm sure he is a great person and has a good head on his shoulder. Not continue to Dogg out the coach in this media...the thing I did'nt particulary care for from the Fred story was (The Fact that he seems to continously point out the Bad in this guy so for those who dont really know him, it gives them a forum to jump on this bandwagon turning it into their personal hate.) I would hate for this to keep spilling into other games that Duarte has coming up. Fred is one of the Best Writers bar none in the Star News or the LA times for that matter so this isn't anything Personally against him. I just think as his supporters that we can sometimes help each other by curving the content to more positive things.

Coach C,
You are not responsible for Duarte's actions years past that got them transferd from the Mission Valley league. So I stand corrected with my comment. You have some great athletes and your coaching speaks for itself. Many years ago I coached in a game that involved about 25-30 players in a brawl,no,it didn't make the news.
All the players fighting were filmed by parents. The players involved were suspended for the duration of the season. Both school's adminstration will investigate further.

OBER CAT.. In the late thirties Malica(sp) Groups would form at the CAL/ARIZ. border to keep out a certain group..Get ready...that group was "Oakies".. dust bowl Oklahomans.(sp). Why the surprise? Try being Irish in Europe 25 years ago. I say We all get together and attack the French...Why do we fight each other?

Who is more of a mess? Black NFL players or White WWE wrestlers? Again, I'm just showing that messed up people come in all shapes, colors, etc.

I used to like that people told me I look like Tom Brady, except now he has all the paternal issues and he is loyal to a cheating coach.

Observantcat,

Never once in the post did I mention race, and the book referenced NFL *players* not NFL players of any certain race. I simply mentioned the 3 most prominent recent news items, but I'm sure that there are some that are of other races. Feel free to talk about them as well to balance the scale.

You might note that I included the Gladstones coach's responsibility in the matter as well, and as far as I know, he is not black either. I'm sorry if it touched a nerve - it was not racial statement, but a societal one. The fact that some *immediatly* jump to the racial undertone, is a contributor to the problems that you state in your last post.

Finally it DID point to a method of attaining progress. By training young men in sports we prepare them to avoid those problems that you face in your job.

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seed that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."
- General Douglas MacArthur

Ps...
Joe Amat

Seach the Web and your nearest bookstore and compare how many articles give the Known & unknown Athletes a chance to redeem themselves as Charity driven young men, thankful for the opportunity to give back to their communitys and the communities around them. I bet the percentages are more like 4 to every 1.....

Joe Amat

It seems as though you chose the lesser end of the spectrum to define whats wrong with sports using Black athletes as your fall guys once again. Let's get a more refreshing look at what is happening out in the streets of the Los Angeles Counties. It is mared with Racism from Latino to Black from White to Asian and so on....the problem that happened in the game certainly could have stemed from the recent bad blood that lurks in the streets, look at TC where a Black player was shot and killed two weeks ago just for being Black. This is a excuse to blame sports for this kind of behavior lets go deeper than that and spell out the real problems with our society. I work in the Criminal arenas as a prosecutor for the state and I have seen it all. The behavior that was displayed on the field is just a microcosm of what happens in our society. After reading this blog it opened my eyes to some of the reality's we face everyday and the dangers of being of another race. I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was just one color?...I think we would find a reason to be predijuce. So as much as I appreciate you pointing out how many Black athletes have made mistakes from your book it doesn't seem to make any real points toward progress here on this blog or any other media.
OBSERVANT 2007 (WILDCAT FOR LIFE)

In '98 Don Yaeger wrote a book titled 'Pros andCons: The Criminals Who Play in the NFL' .

It stated that 21% of the players in the National Football League have been charged with one or more serious crimes. That's more than one in five -- have been charged with at least one serious crime, including two murder arrests, seven rape charges, 45 counts of domestic violence and 42 charges of assault and battery.

We know that since '98 it's gotten worse. We have Rae Caruth, Michael Vick, PacMan Jones and the Cincinatti Bengals. Over 21% is pretty high in any one business and I'm pretty sure it beats all others in the NFL players tax bracket when it comes to serious/violent crimes.

It is not a quantum leap to think that if a coach can disresect others in the paper that the players feel that they can also disrespect other players. If the coach encourages running up scores and winning at all costs the players will develop the same values. If the coach encourages an "us against the world" philosophy and "we get no respect" the players will carry that same chip on their shoulder in the classroom and the worksplace. And if they can get away with anything and that continues, it is not hard to realize how coaches (and fans) help creat the Rae Caruth/Michael Vick/PacMan Jones's of the world.

We have a greater responsibility than blindly supporting those in our school colors. It is up to everyone to speak out for that which is right and against those that are wrong. Hopefully by talking about it we c an avoid the Duarte/Workman basketball fight. Bonita/San Dimas parent debacle, and the Duarte/ Gladstone mess that we are talking about now.

The coaches have way more responsibility than to prepare their teams for Friday. I'm not certain that the Duarte or Gladstone coaches lived up to that in this instance.

Joe Colt

Thanks.....I hope your message goes a long Way. Bloggers, Please Free Crutchfield....The Story had a racist overtone to begin with....The headlines should have read more like (Duarte Wins Over Gladstone 34-3. Period.....Sub-topic Should deciplinary measures take place after scuffle. CASE CLOSED

I think its pretty twisted that this thread has turned from a story of league rivals getting physical and into a racial/ social/ economic debate...

For the record I am caucasian and think this is a bunch of garbage, the kids fought on the field and its over...

One more thing, the only time I have ever had shots fired in my direction and felt my life was threatened was in an upscale Covina neighborhood, never have I had an issue in either Duarte or Azusa...

I am sickened by this race baiting BS and seriously Fred you should lock this thread because it seems to be just divisive at this point...

My two cents, nuff said...

Joe Colt

FTBALLFAN

What does chicken and Pigs have to do with racism?..I am just pointing out the fact that if you sling mud at a race or a community make sure you know which direction your pointing it at. You may miss the intended target. I happend to be a very happy person with a Masters Degree from well know college (USC) and a Monrovia High School Grad. Not a racist bone in my body, sorry if you percieved it as such but keep reading these sorry Ass Blogs from some of your racist supporters and then the racist chains from your brain will be unlocked.

Mo,

Notice that you are the only one. Poll seems right on. Guess that'e why no category had 100%. Thank God you got out alive!!!

duarte lost to ayala

ahahah i will never forget that

how ever jesse jackson is a coward of a shall of a man. This is what my dad was talking about. the same people that smile in face at work, are the same people at the clan meeting. i just dont understand why OJ,Jesse jackson,the hawks, Poor people are any other black people are Mentioned,

DO ME A FAVOR DONT LOOK A NCAA FOOTBALL, DONT LOOK AT NFL FOOTBALL, DONT LOOK AT HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.

Weather you like it are not! 70% of the player in the nfl are black. according to you that=thugs and jail birds.

I hate every single racist biggit idiot that hides behind this blog.

Take a poll:

Percentage of Duarte High School Football players that

1. Don't Graduate 30%
2. Have Illegitimate Kids by age of twenty. 50%
3. On welfare by age of twenty-two. 60%
4. Go to Jail for violent crime. 70%
5. Dead before they reach 30th birthday. 45%

Crutch can take the credit for this too!! Football should be a way out of crime, not a way into it!

wow wow wow!!!

This so called poll is a lil bit off...

I'm an ex Duarte high player, And one I did graduate, and about to finish my B.A. in Political Science. Two I dont have any kids yet.
Three I make well over 60 grand a year so no welfare here.
Four haven't had a run in with the law ever.
And five haven't died.... so yeah your poll sucks get a life hater!!!

People, can we all sit back and calm down. Race, socio-economics, and class have nothing to do with what happened at the Gladstone-Duarte game. That ugly incident was caused by stupidity on both sides. Duarte (Crutchfield) and Gladstone (Sanchez) are both to blame for letting that mess get out of control. As adults, we need to sit back and realize that we're not playing this lovely game anymore.......the kids are. Instead of teaching kids bad habits, we need to teach them how to become men. As a man, you always don't have to handle a situation with your fist or a weapon. I think as men, we get so caught up in being macho that we forget this.

We all have are bias against certain programs/schools. However, when we start making idiotic statements about race and class, we have crossed a line that should never be crossed. Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, and Asians all have bad apples in their cultures. Don't stereotype an entire culture/r