What no SGV teams listed in the top 10 of the Inland div of the CIF rankings?

Hopefully Glendora will have something to say about that tonight!

short memory at September 13, 2007 12:23 AM

Little Bearcat fan!

We'll see on the 28th who's the King!

Last year's over dude. Better worry about what's ahead of you!

HSFBFAN,

Following your logic, no team should have any respect at this point, right? Who has been truly tested with a win?

In my experience usually the people that complain about the rankings are the ones that don't have their team in them!

By the way that comment I read about Amat being able to go 0-10 and still beat everyone else was rediculous. What a miopian that person is.

Glendora beat a bad Covina team and Bishop Amat has not won a game yet. If Glendora can win this week than maybe they will get some respect. As for BA they have to win a game before they get respect. I don't care who they play. How many teams are in any rankings when they are Ofer.

Seven Eleven,
You called two schools in the Miramonte "horrible". What does that say about the Valle Vista? This year Bonita vs. Covina 43-14, last year Bonita vs. Northveiw 26-0. Save the hyperbole for your school pep rally.

SEVEN ElEVEN

I never even mentioned passing league. So u can get out of with that. I don't even follow passing league its so meaningless

All I'm saying is that they dnt suck or whatever u think. They always duke it out wit the best and its always close. Every game in league last year was by like 7 points or less wit the exception of LA.

I think Amat should be ranked higher in the standings even though they have lost their first two games. They will come back and get some W's because they are still growing and have complete faith that they will surpass everyone who doubts their competence for tradition. I wouldn't be surprised if they won the Serra league and went to CIF. Two years missing playoffs, but hey ... third time's a charm, right?

Give any other team, including Diamond Ranch, Amat's schedule and see how they compete against HARDCORE schools like Notre Dame, OLu, Crespi, and Hart, just to name a few. They would be in the same boat as Amat is, and maybe even worse...guaranteed. Don't knock Amat for its losses so far...they're just warming up.

sgvcoach hit that one right on the head---chino hills was barely a top 10 team in D2 "the I.E", they are no longer :).....we'll see what DR does at seasons end, i'll be looking for that white towel they throw so well come november.....

You guys are grasping. Chino Hills is no where near the IE #1. The Sierra League is down this year in comparison to the rest of the leagues. Corona Centennial, Norco, Los Osos, sound more like #1 type teams to me. Any of them would beat and or have beaten Chino hills. Don't get too excited. I know Chino Hills looks really good compared to the overall talent in the SGV but they do not come close to the Riverside/ Corona area schools overall. Redlands, Colton, Kaiser are some others.

dr is foreal
your missing the point,panther fan saying beating la last wasnt a fluke , and im saying not being able to score inside 5 yard on 4 plays isnt one either, my point is these things happen, panther fan thins if goes good 4 them not a fluke but if goes bad must be a fluke, im not bad mouthing dr ranch at all, they were last year and prob this year a very good team, but there are a lot of good teams around, not sure why everyone bashes la, co, and sh, for being good strong programs year after year.

LA is up to #2 in the CIF poll for their division too. Someone out there is trying to paint a bullseye on their butts.

Conq fan,
Like you said we'll see in a few weeks, we can all come up with our theories and reasons for our predictions but as we all know, they mean nothing until the teams step on the field and face each other, as meaningless as these rankings and predictions are they sure are a lot of fun though.
Steve R. & Fred, its all in fun, but I'll play devils advocate and point out that Los Altos & Glendora did do what they were supposed to do and
shouldn't be punished for it, but think of it more as a "just reward" for D.Ranch not just doing what they were supposed to do but going way above & beyond what they were expected to do.
All I know is that in week 0 I expected D.Ranch
to lose by 30 or more points to a powerhouse like Edison, but instead they kept it close and played right with them, then the next week I expected C.Hills to beat D.Ranch by 10 to 14 points but instead D.Ranch looked for real with their suprise win over the Huskies, we'll see
how disipline the panthers are this week, we'll see if they have any kind of let down, I don't know much about this San Diego team, how good are they?

a COLT fan,
The WCC parent stated academics first, athletics second . Due to your reply all the more reason to go private. There are no politics when it comes to academics.

WCC,

I'd say he was on Steroids or the next Shaq. Careful what you wish for son.

rgd2626 at September 12, 2007 01:39 PM

Last year is over and 25+ senior gone from Bonita!

Can't wait!

My prediction, Bonita finishes last in league!

sgvpride at September 12, 2007 11:48 AM

Just remember, you can't judge anything from passing league.

But, if you think Wilson is going to be ahead of LA, CO, DR... Think again..

You'll see what passing league has done for you when league starts. Gilmore or not...

WCC,

MY SON IS 6FT'2 200 8th grader 13 year old

I WONDER WHAT YOU PEDIATRICIAN WOULD SAY ABOUT HIM!

I KNOW!

DAMN HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR KID!

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD....

WCC Parent, perhaps a little leg work on your part to compare academics, curriculum, etc... at both schools would be to your benefit. Good luck.

Trojan Man, thanks for the promo, the check is in the mail.

panther fan,
i suppose it was a fluke dr couldnt score inside the 5 yard line against bonita last year,

Thanks for the great comments. I will continue my search. Oh by the way, my son is projected to be at least 6' 4" by the time he turns 16 by his Pediatrician since he is only 13 now and weighs 160 lbs.

Conq fan, call it a fluke if you want, but deep down you know it is not. It wasn't a fluke when DR beat you last year on your homecoming either. See you in a couple weeks.

Just wanted to say Congratulations & good luck!!! to Oscar Robles.... He's a great kid on and off the field.
GO VIKES!!!!

SEVEN ELEVEN

I'd like 2 see u try and stop tim gilmore. The may not be the best team. But they will sure duke it out wit the best in miramonte

WCC parent is he plays JAA in Covina send him to Covina High we are looing for the next coming of MCD...all your going to run into at private schools is a wait your turn politics game. Unless he is a absolute stud.

WCC Parent, if you are looking academics first you cannot do better then a school like Webb in Claremont. 90% of Webb students attend college at schools in the US News top 10%. Webb competes at the same level athletically as Western Christian, neither of whom are anywhere near Bishop Amat athletically. You can check out the school at Webb.org.

Hahaha, rankings are so much fun, they are a joke. Los Altos number 1? Who are you kidding? They wouldn't be able to beat 5 of the 9 other rank teams and probably lose to Amat's varsity reserves.

I know a few grads from both schools ,both are GREAT . If I had to choose , My choice would be BISHOP AMAT . Kind of like USC the Alumni support is GREAT , and the networking and exposure he will get is great .

WOW I AM NOW PROMOTING AMAT ...

TM

Fighting Lancer,

My kid is an 6 foot 8th grader attending West Covina Christian and playing for the Covina Vikings. I am at a loss as to sending him to Amat or Western Christian for it's academics first and athletics second. What's your take?

How many private schools have Lancers for a mascot and why?

DAN....good point and its well taken, but i guess we'll see in the coming weeks just how high caliber of a team DR is. Chino Hills was NUMBER ONE in the IE kinda like South Hills was Number ONE in SGV and NUMBER 25 in the LA TIMES....people call South Hills a Fluke so why cant i say the same about Chino Hills?....like i said we'll see in the coming weeks

I think you guys are missing out by not reporting more on our local small private schools.....Western Christian has an OUTSTANDING defense this year and I believe will do well when it comes to league play in their division.
They are not a big name like Bishop Amat, but they don't recruit and they build with what they have. They have boys who can and will go onto play football at the collegiate level....

You are missing out by not checking them and giving them thier dues!!

Anonymous,

They also had Farmer from Northview and the kid that plays center for Amat right now. Thats what happens when you let DADS coach their own kids. Also what happened to the kid they called X , I think his name was Xavier Baltazar and Michael Arreola (his dad was apice of work.) banned for the throw the ball at his son for missing a tackle...do you know where they ended up playing their HS ball? knuckleheads his putting it lightly those guys were so diorganized.

Panther Fan at September 12, 2007 02:20 AM

You can talk all you want about who you are playing in non-league... Over the next couple of weeks, it will be about how the loses and not wins, especially against Oaks!

Then we'll we'll get it on in league!

Lucky who?

Bonita Passing League Toruney?

Get over yourself! Passing league doesn't mean s---....

Maybe West Covina would beat them... Maybe, but Bonita and Wilson are horrible.

Weekly rankings are fun and fun is what HS football is supposed to be, regardless of what Coach Herman Boone might say! The completely arbitray way in which the pre-league games are determined makes pre-league rankings a crap-shoot at best. This is also fun, but this weeks poll will be out-of-sight-out-of-mind when league play starts and especially when the play-off pairings are announced.

Weekly rankings are fun and fun is what HS football is supposed to be, regardless of what Coach Herman Boone might say! The completely arbitray way in which the pre-league games are determined makes pre-league rankings a crap-shoot at best. This is also fun, but this weeks poll will be out-of-sight-out-of-mind when league play starts and especially when the ply-off pairings are announced.

excuse my typo, i meant NV 8 ; Damien 7

Re: Top 10 Poll
This list is comical at best. Northveiw ranked #7 (please!). West Covina, Bonita, and Wilson would all light up Northveiw. I saw the Vikings get smoked at the Bonita Tourney by Charter Oak's back-up QB. It's early in the football season and reality is nowhere to be found. Also, Damien at #6 (LOL). The Spartans are BIG and deep. They lost to St. John Bosco, a traditional so cal powerhouse. What would SJB do to South Hills. Damien can and will beat those teams listed above them this year. Here is my list: 1. Diamond Ranch 2. Bishop Amat 3. The Rest (get a quality win please).

WC Bruins JAA, The coaches of those jaa teams were (are) knuckleheads. They had Tamayo, McBride, Robles, Tucker, and I believe Bradford Ray, and won nothing! I don't believe you can base anything on who played what at that level

Everyone talks about how good they are and who they could beat, but never put these teams on their schedule. Diamond Ranch puts the best of the best on their schedule and don't say a word. Could have beat Edison, but atleast played them tough. Then beat Chino Hills convincely! Division 1 CIF champ and then Sieera League Champs. Next Week Division 5 CIF Champ Christian HS. Two weeks later Oaks Christian CIF and State Champ. Who else in the league has the guts to play these teams? Who else can hold their own or beat these teams? Not scheduling one tough team, but we are talking week after week. Only DR! Who is the best in the SGV. The only team doing something truely worthy is Diamond Ranch!

EXCELLENT!

Rankings are not always based on who can beat who, if they played. My opinion of ratings are always a balance between talent level and a reward for having a great season. It's the same in the Top 25, where sometimes a 5-5 SEC or Pac-10 team is unranked, but a small-conference team, like say Marshall, that is 10-0 gets ranked.

Posted by: sramirez at September 11, 2007 10:09 PM

my 4 y/o niece throws better than that "qb"

Dan, I'm not dropping Los Altos and Glendora behind Diamond Ranch just because of Diamond Ranch's big win, and it was big. Los Altos did everything they were supposed to do, and so did Glendora. They crushed teams they were supposed to crush. How can you penalize them for doing what's expected of them. I already had both ranked ahead of DRanch to begin with, so I see no reason to drop them yet.

First... Oscar Robles is a true junior and only 16 or maybe 17 y/o so enough on the held back theory.

Second... I think highly of LA but DR should without a doubt be the areas #1, anyone else think they could hang with Edison and then beat the IE #1 in Chino Hills?

You guys out there may say yes but there is no way and you know it.

Joe Colt

Dan,

These are Fred's ratings, but I agreed with the rankings. Diamond Ranch proved its worth big time by staying close to Edison and beating a very good Chino Hills team, and they were rewarded with a No. 3 ranking. But I believe that since Los Altos and Glendora began the week rated higher than DR and both had convincing victories, they have to continue to be rated ahead of them. Now if Glendora or Los Altos struggled against their opponents, then you might have DR leap frog them, but not after both won easily.

Anonymous,
Rankings are not always based on who can beat who, if they played. My opinion of ratings are always a balance between talent level and a reward for having a great season. It's the same in the Top 25, where sometimes a 5-5 SEC or Pac-10 team is unranked, but a small-conference team, like say Marshall, that is 10-0 gets ranked.

Conq.Fan,
well enough, nothing is obvious at this point,
as much as Chino Hills has been hyped we still don't really know how good they are, but I'm willing to bet they would beat most if not all of the others on the SGV list. As for D.Ranch vs Edison, Edison beat San Clemente by about the same margin this week, San Clemente is supposed to have one of their better teams this year & in
recent years they usually eliminated the best of the Baseline or Sierra league in the playoffs.
After these two games, D.Ranch appears to be on par with the likes of San Clemente, if so thats a pretty high caliber team.

For starters, top 10 standings are a bit ridiculous when you have ten schools playing on different levels. For those who support South Hills or Los Altos, good for you. But you cannot base the performance of these schools all in the same league, because that is just being ignorant and biased to the athletic programs of these schools.
For one, South Hills is a good school. HOWEVER, it is often overrated; yes, they can win and yes, they show great talent, but so do many other schools. To say that South Hills is one of the "greater teams now in SoCal" is a bit much. Many other schools have "standout" players just like South Hills and its sad that we do not acknowledge them...but we acknowledge many players from South Hills, i.e. Dorian Wells - great player, yes. BUT he is not the best player out there, and there is too much hype about his performance. He has much talent right now, but is he cut out to play in college or even the NFL? If not, shouldn't we stop putting so much pressure on athletes, such as Wells, to perform to the highest expectations we have set for them? Because we all know when they don't perform to these expectations, everyone is on their back...and we continually forget that these kids are just KIDS. Let them play the games they love without having to worry about the controversy.
Once again, it is hard to compare these teams because they all perform on different levels of skill. How do you compare the performance of a Division 1 team to that of a Division 4 team? The answer is you can't. Despite all our best efforts or opinions, it is not fair to put these schools on a scale. If a Division 1 Team, such as Amat, loses one week, it is not equal to compare that loss to a win of a lower division school. I am not being biased nor am I favoring one school over another. The plain old truth is that it is unfair to judge these teams, rank them, and then compare all on the same level...whether they're a div. 1 or div. 3 team.
That's just my opinion. Sorry if people will eat me up for saying that, but hey...I love the game just as much as the next person, so please don't take offense.

pagpiper,

" after a defeat over a way overrated etiwanda team" does not mean a victory. Sorry to nitpick folks but glendora fan is getting out of control. Glendora kids look good, glendora fan doesn't. Let the season get midway through before you continue this non-stop dribble. Glendora fan is becoming the football teams worst enemy, IF they lose any time soon I hope the kids and coach give you a swift kick in the ass.

Even if Amat goes 0-10 they can still beat all of the schools on the list.

funny you guys to bring this jaa thing up my son was a lineman on that team. he blocked for tomayo. halfway through that season it wasnt oscar robles who took over it was cameron dean from south hills. he was alson tomaos no. 1 reciever for the fist half... funny how thigs are now they are all at their respected schools...

hey fred

wheres the picture of robles i cant see it

thaks fred

DAN....nothing is OBVIOUS at this point, yes diamond ranch played tough teams and yes they even beat one of them, but mentally kids get upo those type of games and playing rosemead just wont do that for some kids....no i dont believe LA is the best team in the valley (there are just to many question marks) they did pitch a shutout but the also struggled mightly on offense. If the coaches dont find a way to ge the ball in the hands of 84 and 1 then they are going to be in trouble, getting it to 5 is easy, (hand it off)....but between the TE and number 1 they are in a predicament they havent been in in awhile, trying to make the players and the QB adjust to them when they should be finding a wayto get 1 the ball other than punts and Kickoffs and getting the TE the ball by flanking him out (it seems as though hes the only guy that can catch. the thing about Diamond Ranch is that you just dont know which team youre gonna get week in and week out, they looked like worldbeaters last year at LA but then did nothing else.....its only WEEK ONE people these rankings shouldnt come out till like week 5 or 6.....its gonnn be a fun season

I'm suprised you don't see it Fred,
Diamond Ranch hung tough with D1 power Edison
then they prove it was no fluke by beating Chino Hills who is one of the best teams in the Inland Empire by a score of 42 to 28, Los Altos looks
good but you have to remember they played Rosemead, big diffrence between Rosemead & Edison & Chino Hills. I'm not a fan of D.Ranch or Los Altos but its obvious that D.Ranch is the best team at this point of the season.

wc bruins jaa

the only praise that he is getting is from you!!!

Looking for the Tartans to take the top spot after a defeat of the way overrated Etiwanda squad...Should be easy pickings if they play the same way they did Friday...If they take it for granted, possible loss to Etiwanda then but I don't see Pasquy not having the boys fired up and reayd to play especially after the embarassing CAPO VALLEY Debacle..

Los Altos is really that good. They shut out Rosemead and will do the same on Friday to Long Beach Wilson. Isnt that what a good defense is suppose to do. Their defense is stacked with seniors who will do the job. They also would have beat Upland (scrimmage lost 3-4) if it werent for some of their starters watching from the bench. It's going to be a good season for LA. Just sit back and watch.

Aram is in the building

Analysis: Wells' arrival vaults South Hills into a whole different class. As you all know, I've ranked South Hills No. 1 in the SGV and believe they are the favorite to win the Southwest Division. But before Wells' arrival, you could make an argument for Charter Oak or Los Altos to hold such expectations. Now, South Hills easily ranks with some of the top teams in SoCal. I truly mean this. It's not crazy anymore to project an undefeated season, and if that happens, then what about a state championship bowl game?

Trubuco Hills beat you at home and La Habra is waiting for you. I just do not see So.Hills as all that...Dorian Wells the karma is getting you now....what a mistake to think you were bigger than Amat and it's rules.

1. Dorian Wells, South Hills - Who else, right? I stand by it, on any team, Wells is the best player in the SGV. Just so happens he plays receiver (mostly). Personally, I don't think it's a coincidence Wells ended up at South Hills. There's probably no other place in the Valley that he'd be showcased better. Wells will be the No. 1 target for whomever is under center. The stats should follow, as should the wins. South Hills projects for a 14 game season and I'd expect Wells' stats to benefit greatly from that. After this year, we'll see Dorian on Saturdays.

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14 GAME SEASON????HAHAHAHA NO WAY!

Bishop is 0-2!!!!!!!!
including a kill by OLU

there rank is not what they deserve

Whoa... LA on top after beating Rosemead?

Isn't that a little much?

Oh my! where is So. Hills in the CIF Rankings?

This is Arams projected undefeated / Ca Bowl State Champs....Dorian Wells and all that nonsense. what has happened? just like sports illustrated you put them on the cover and guess what happens C.H.O.K.E.

what typo :)

To think Oscar Robles played behind Junior Tamayo in JAA....this Robles kid has come along way and deserves all the praise he is getting right now. Tamayos Dad coached so Robles took to the back burner. Funny how the tide turns, altho Tamayo is starting at Los Altos he had to leave Amat to get there, Robles on the other hand is just a junior, I wonder if he is in the one year held back program which makes him a a little older as a junior and he should be rightfully a senior right now>?

Uh Oh bad omen, We've only played one game and we are 2-0.

I didn't know Los Altos lost a game. Is this a typo?