TOP TEN: Los Altos, Glendora, DRanch, clearly the top three

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Tribune Top Ten Rankings
1. Los Altos (2-0) - Mahmud-McBride area's best player?
2. Glendora (2-0) - Where's the weakness?
3. Diamond Ranch (2-1) - Oaks Christian, two weeks and counting?
4. Charter Oak (1-1) - Lots of questions, offensively and defensively
5. Damien (2-1) - Will know more after Los Altos
6. South Hills (0-2) - Still not ready for heavyweights
7. Bishop Amat (0-3) - Prediction: Lancers will win four of next five
8. Northview (2-0) - Might stay undefeated for a while
9. Arroyo (2-0) - Huge test coming against Alhambra
10. San Dimas (3-0) - Winning and winning big

Which game is bigger?
Los Altos vs. Damien
Charter Oak vs. Glendora


203 Comments

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Was it a fluke said:

Amat beating Rancho Cucamonga big deal. they struggled and had to earn that win, goes to show they are quite a ways away from playing pac5 comp. they must move down there is no way around it the show is over for that team...all smoke and mirrors now. They have some more lopsided losses coming to them when playing high caliper teams. There corners give up too much cushion and they can get passed on all day because they have no pass rush and they rarely blitz...at best a 3-7 record...very young and small secondary...that is Amats weak point is their pass coverage..they cover the run well but they get lit up when it comes to the pass....more bump and run and more double coverage will help but the kids back there are sophmores...........dont you think that big 6'5" QB from Carson and Notre Dame will torch this secondary....Amat is done....Rancho is a playing down opponent.......big dogs are going to shred that def. of yours.

Searching for answers said:

You tell B.Blue he is making amat look bad here , you are mistaken Amat73....Amat makes amat look bad with those hideous amat nation t-shirts and the air brush t-shirt some fat dad is wearing....it is a new breed of parents I agree and as far as the teams win Friday..a win is a win but Rancho looked to be a JV unit out there. Amat should have rolled them by more then that......West covina showing this friday against RC will tell how good Amat is....23-7 is not something outstanding against a weak team. 4 out of 5 as Fred predicted, but if Amat plays Carson the way it played Rancho C. Amat is going to get rolled....They have 2 weeks to prepare with this bye week so lets see what the so called coaching staff comes up with...you give a good coach 2 weeks to prepare for a game that usually means a win, but I said a good coach lets see if Verti can mastermind a win here...if he loses the Carson game that speaks for his coaching right there.

Conq'76 said:

Will the Miramonte occupy the first three spots in this weeks Top Ten?

PLAID LAD said:

Congrats to COHS

The game was all it could be as the "Swamp Bottom Boys" stopped playing "Father Where Art Thou" for our plaid crew.

It was a hard fought game with COHS dominating and controlling the game in the end. COHS applied pressure all night on our offensive scheme that allowed little momentum and progress.

GHS and COHS played defense like no other, but in the end CO on this night proved the better.

The end of the game posted a 13 to 6 victory over GHS, but the game looked satisfied to be a 7 to 7 (kiss your sister date) with seconds left in the game. COHS Snowden's sweeping last second pass to a open receiver proved to be the difference in the score, but not in the game.

The bottom line is that COHS created alot of things that earned them this victory. As hard as GHS applied themselves it was not enough to win one on this night. As no stanger to the game, we are all confident that GHS will adjust and tweak their game to make better for their next opponent.

In conclusion, to all that played..great job! To all those that learned from this experience....make better your game. To all those that believed GHS was enroute to greatness.....believe on. To all those that are curious about what's next.....see you at Citrus this Thursday...

FYI: Strap it on boys, for this is what builds champions......

Special Note: Bret Marteney is the best example who we are as a team and community. His inability to give-up inspired all in attendance and beyond. Bret, we wish you a speedy recovery...for you are fraternally a part of us. Great game son!

PLAID LAD

flee flicker?. said:

actually just a "pitch-pass" but yeah...

prayers go out to gt#20!marteney!

Anonymous said:

the flee flicker got the tarts. good luck #20

Joe Amat said:

Bitching and moaning at the Chalk Talk is a no-win also. Coach won't change - and it's not really his fault. Administration put him in that position before he was prepared to handle it. What a recipe for failure.

He is what he is - a young coach with unknown potential who came on the cheap. He was the offensive coordinator for two years and now the head coach. Why should we expect anything different, he's doing the best he can. It's not just that he doesn't know - that can be fixed because you can go find out. It's that he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Then you're screwed.

AMAT 73 said:

big blue ,
There you go again insulting FAMILY . I don't get where you get off with those types of statements but again a new breed of fan. I didn't say I was sold on Verti. I had said in the past give him a chance but he is has not shown anything as of yet. It could be he is not the person for the job but unless he resigns it looks he is what we have for the rest of the season. All I said was to voice your opinions on Tuesday because all your bitching and moaning on this blog will not fix anything and it is giving us a bad name.

Big Blue said:

Amat 73 / Amat ,

Like putting Verti on the spot like that would help...no one is going to do that bless the poor man.......that room would unite like no other, the way he keeps showing film on how his team is getting their ass beat every week.........the beer is for the pain that is shown on film........that is not a bust the coaches balls session.........it could be but we'd make that young man cry......you two are real losers if you are still sold on Verti........

AMAT 73 said:

BIG BLUE ,ECHO AND OTHERS
Where the hell are all you nay sayers on Tuesday nights. We have a chalk talk at the school every week and that is your chance and place to voice all your ideas and gripes with this staff. Oh and by the way they do have beer if you need to drink up some courage.7:30 next Tuesday be there, I am expecting to hear from you . That is the place to voice your opinions not battling with family on this blog. Again the new breed of AMAT supporters making us look bad.

Kidding Right said:

KR- I've posted for some time on this site and in our hay-day MTC and I have always offered our own points and opinions. For some...the consideration is that we agree to disagree. For others we offer a completely different point of view.

Plaid Lad spoken like a true veteran of the blog and I'm sure MTC has much respect for you to. It's guy like you, Mike and the Amat guys Joe Colt and others that have me addicted to this site and blog. You and Mike and other hardcore footballers have me coming back for more everyday

PLAID LAD said:

Response to: Kidding Right

KR- I've posted for some time on this site and in our hay-day MTC and I have always offered our own points and opinions. For some...the consideration is that we agree to disagree. For others we offer a completely different point of view.

The simple reality of this blog site is that Head Coaches employeed within the SGV don't care what I, you, or MTC, or anyone else have to say about their programs. Their too busy coaching to be concerned.

So, to answer your post...no back-hands offered or intended today....just opinions. Disagree with me? It's okay your allowed.

PLAID LAD

Big Blue said:

Amat---- then you and your kid better get the led out and have him, one start playing some ball if he is a varsity player and you better get some tougher skin and demand that Amat get rid of this coach and start to jump on the bring Amat back to greatness wagon......this, I settle for losing without no dignity is BS.........I dont understand how this can be acceptable to those coaches that are alumni....again too young of staff no exp....

Kidding Right! said:

Plaid Lad was that a back handed slap at Mike the Clone? If it was I would have to disagree with you. Sure he jumps on Paskie but Mike has always wanted him to succeed with all the kids not just this bunch.In fact you and Mike have agreed on a lot of things that I have read. Oh well what do I know if it was a slap at MTC I dont think it was deserved. Yourself and Mike are two of the Tartans biggest fans.

FANatic said:

Quick and sweet:

Go Tartans. I know you will make FANatic proud!

Do your thing with style and grace. May there be no injuries for the Tartans or Chargers!

FANatic has left the Blog!

PLAID LAD said:

Remember GJAA-2003 season: Tartans 46 vs CO 6

Those same athletes (with needed additions) will be squaring-off tonight for the last time in their high school football careers.

Thank you...GJAA Head Coach H. Rod and (the late)COJAA Head Coach Perry. Those that will watch your kids tonight all know too well where it all began. You both have created believers out of many.

FYI: To all the parents...we are all winners!

PLAID LAD

PLAID LAD said:

Response to: Kidding Right!

Yup..I caught that thread too. Look, it is not up to any coach to keep any adult parent "in line." Most head coaches have way too much on their plates to be concerned with parent attitudes. Coaches that establish a high quality of standards (and we all who they are) could care less about what parents have to say about their programs.

Heck, for every successful program....there is bound to be a group of disgruntled parents that squeak when they walk.

FYI: GHS is blessed with one of SGV's winningest basketball coaches in Mr. Leduc. Every year he begins his introduction to his program by informing new parents that "if johnny is not getting court time...then johnny is not putting out enough to play as a starter."

Right up front every parent understands what will be expected of each athlete if starting on his team is what they desire.

The bottom line is that parents that complain out loud are often those same parents that think their 'johnnies' should somehow be starting or contributing more when game time rolls around.

Coach P as well as all of the quality coaches in SGV probably express the same to their respective athletes.

So, as important as your or my opinions might be on this blog....they have no part in the decision making of coaches and their programs.

PLAID LAD

Amat said:

"When you are on the losing side at Amat it does not go over well with certain backers, alumni and parents"

It doesn't go over well with the players and coaches on all levels either. Remember half the coaches if not more on all levels are alumni.

And I'm not soft. Neither is my son.

Where is the Clone? said:

Hey Plaid Lad where is Mike the Clone? he's been AWOL for about 2 or so weeks now. Joe Amat, Joe Colt anything on Mikey? You know I kind of miss that hack. Do you think him and Aram are doing some pirate sports radio talk show aomewhere? Can you imagine.

Kidding Right said:

Pasqy knows how to keep the parents in line.SAY WHAT?

Big Blue said:

When you are on the losing side at Amat it does not go over well with certain backers, alumni and parents.. sorry I am one of them..I can take losing, we all lose, but I cannot take and accept not being competitive and folding before a game. Amat blogger is one of those that is soft and takes a ass kicking and enjoys it.."well at least johnny got to play in a blowout" that is sad....your pathetic!.....someone at Amat need to light a fire under those coaches A--es, starting with the AD.. does Manzo ever go to Verti and say dude you are failing miserably lets get it together or is it a sink or swim attitude...what a way to bring in the 50th Anniversary with a losing season in football....

Los Altos Fan said:

Man,
I love this. Parents Fighting parents. I thought what the Amat Transfer parents were saying was a lie but they are glad that that they don't have to deal with you guys anymore. They said there was more complaining in the stands than they could stand.

Amat said:

Big Blue,

Great way to support. Why don't you come give the pregame speech. You inspire me.

Echo on Big B. said:

Amat,

You must be talking to the wrong parents..we are not just talking Dads we are talking mom and dads....it is disgraceful and embarrassing the way our coaches have our team playing. I wouldnot be surprised if we lost tonites game.

Big Blue said:

Amat,

No backbone?.....go ask they will tell you...The senior parents are not having a good time with this season for good reason it is their kids last year. Junior parents and sophmore parents are in denial and have the hope which is good. For the Junior parents today that have a Amat player wait it will be your turn next year to carry the losing torch. It did not have to be this way we just needed a experience coach....I believe Verti will step down after this year, he knows he is in over his head. No playoffs this year count on it.

Amat said:

What Varsity parent did you talk to? I've talked to many and they haven't said that. See how easy it is to write statements with no backbone.

Big Blue said:

Amat,

If a understudy outsider from a big name school came to Amats program and was 40 to 50 something years old with exp. behind him our boosters and Alumni would welcome him in and support him. We found out the hard way that one of our own could not handle this responsibility because of his youthful lack of experience, his staff included. You claim we never gave him a chance, we did, he has the job and when you have a job you are held accountable for your results and Amat is getting poor piss results from this Staff and it starts at the top with Coach Verti. Unless Amat has taken the approach of let coach Verti have the reins for 20 years and by then he should have enuf experience to turn it around then we should accept our losing much easier. It is not like that at Amat where winning is tradition and our tradition is football...unless that is our new motto "WAIT AND SEE AND LIVE AND DIE WITH VERTI FOR YEARS"..then it is what it is and we should stop bitching and start to accept losing....in talking to one of the varsity players parents the other day, is what was said that the team and the program have accepted losing very easy now knowing they are in with a inexperienced coach...no one is taking this coach or his staff serious and when we are in a big game vs Notre Dame like last year and Orange Lutheran and Hart this year, we fold like a card house. On Saturdays every thing is normal and the coaches have no ramifications for the players and the players talk and screw off on Saturdays because losing is easily accepted at Amat now...

Amat said:

"Someone who comes in that no one knows, would bring instant respect from out players knowing this person came from a big time program."

If no one knows him, the fans would say the same thing about hiring a no name coach.
Knowing the fans we have here, no assistant wants to come here. I've talked to one from Servite and he mentioned that the headache from the fans is not worth it. We made the bed. We could have been more supportive in the early 2000s and donated more money and ben patient but we didn't. We have to deal with it.

Verti never was given a chance. The Tribune wrote a blog on how he was the wrong choice. And you know whats sad is that he is an alumnus and this is how we treat our own. If we treat our own this way, imagine someone with no affiliation with the school. He won't get help from the administration.

And as much as we don't like it, Carroll isn't going anywhere. The academics is getting better. The IB program is up. You think the Cardinal is going to make an athletic focused move when he sat pat on so many others.

We are Delusional. If the coaching staff is not getting it done then there will be changes. Shoot, there were three coaches added this year that everyone praised. You subtract a couple other coaches and add some and there is improvement.

Chris Rome said:

Plaid Lad. We are with you, Pasqy is not going any where. I got your back and I am filling a bottle of urine, just in case any body gets any ideas.

Tartan Pride said:

The thought of coach P leaving Glendora is too scary to comprehend...in just a few short years he has turned the Tartan team around, from celler dwellers, to one of the best teams in the valley. Saying that, if the boys in plaid reach amazing heights this year, why would coach P want to rebuild the next year and start all over again?... coach P is capable of turning any team around and maybe after this year he is up for a new challenge. It would be a sad day in the foothills the day he does decide to leave.

Just thinking out loud said:

Does Mike the Clone come with the package?

Big Blue said:

Amat should of and still can pluck a understudy assistant coach to a great program like Mater Dei or Orange Lutheran. Someone who comes in that no one knows, would bring instant respect from out players knowing this person came from a big time program. Shake up is necessary but I doubt it will happen because it is not the Amat way and Msg. Carroll will not take us this route. the promote from within approach is not working as you can see with Verti and Adamek who have roots still workning at Amat. Let face reality here if they were such good coaches we would have seen some brite spot but lets be honest they have a grade of a D to a D- over the last two years.

Amat said:

No public school coach/teacher is leaving their retirement money/union backed job for a private high school. Private school positions are year to year. NEVER long term. Also no job security. You do one thing wrong and its the chopping block even if the accusations are unfounded. You can't go to the Misses with that plan. And the scrutiny by the fans. Forget it.

Anonymous said:

Coach P also knows how to keep parents in line!

Dknott said:

sounds like a great idea to me. In my opinion the only way things could get worst for amat is if they cancelled the football program all together.

:) said:

Scenario:

Coach Pasqy offered Amat job next season?

Why this would work:

Glendora will have big time season this year.
Rebuilding season for Glendora next year (could be a bit boring)
Amat needs spark plug coach who will demand respect with great experience developing teams.

Could work. What's your thoughts?

:)

Anonymous said:

Anyone from Amat know how many years Verti's contract is for. I'd like to see Daylon get the head coaching job with coach Taylor as his assistant....The kids do not respect Verti. He wants to be their buddy instead of their coach.

Facts said:

LAC

Ok you went out and did your homework and a 5'6" kid will be going to USC..you need to go back and do more research because this RB is one and a few who get there. The percentages are not in McBrides favor especially playing for a D-6 team and playing against the like of Rosemead and LB Wilson...he will get past up...but for his education he should go play for a team like La Verne or Whittier college..good schools and lets face it he has no way of making the NFL. Byrce would get killed playing at USC or UCLA...why go thru all that redshirt ordeal when he can suit up at a private small college and get to play.

AMAT Insider said:

Amat shouldn't have hired a BOY to do a man's job.

Dknott said:

c.i.f. should make an exception and let south hills and amat play to day. That way one of them will go into tonites game with a win.LOL

PLAID LAD said:

Response to: Who can beat the Tartans?

That answer is simple. There is only one team that can beat the Tartans. That team is the "Tartans." Not being able to focus and be driven to compete in the "Here and Now" will beat any teams ability to produce.

PLAID LAD

LAC said:

Did anyone forget the fact the McDonough played QB and Mcbride plays RB? That makes big difference in terms of what size you must be. You have to be at minimum 5'11" to play QB in D1 (Ex: Troy Smith, Chris Leak). But you can be atleast 5'6" and still get that scholarship offer at running back. Perfect example is Curtis McNeal from Venice High. He's 5'6" 175 pounds and is heading to USC next year!

Here's a link to prove it ....
http://usc.scout.com/a.z?s=15&p=8&c=1&nid=2938919

If that doesn't prove that height isn't a factor at running back in D1 then I don't know what does.

rgd2626 said:

conq 76
i agree with you on the wilson field,dont like watching from the sidelines but thats one of them i do, the other is away at co just because so crowded.

Lucha Libre said:

From what the wrestling team at Amat is saying is Andrew Hernandez will transfer out after football season. He is eyeing Northview as his school next. So the team may lose one of its best wrestlers.

Just the facts said:

For you guys that cannot read or comprehend, I said Bryce MAY get a offer from a Fresno St. but what I trying to say in the comparison to McD is that without height such as Bryce he may end up like the rest at a Junior College. I do not know what GPA he maintains so that has allot to to do with it as well. McD had all that talent and more but no height and no GPA gets you what you get 13th grade at a JC. I did see Bryce get racked a few times vs. the Big Boys (D1) last year while playing for Amat. Playing down has him looking great right now and I give him all the respect in the world but reality is reality and he is not big enuf.

Conq'76 said:

Hey Nacho Libre...

LA just beat up on LB Wilson last week and no one even mentioned that Wilson was dubbed the best HS Baseball team in the country last year. I know LA didn't extend them "any love" for that remarkable accomplishment last Friday evening..

Anonymous said:

Don Knott go back to Mayberry RFD or wherever the F you came from. And also don't knock kids from Amat at least they can spell better than you Moron!

Aunt YoMama said:

Come on now Fred, these Anonymous on Anonymous hate blogging are really starting to disgust and annoy me. Let's start assigning user names so that there is some accountability and credibility here, because anyone can say anything without any repercussion. Freedom of Speech gone out of control here!

Anonymous said:

John

When did AMAT have a good girls volleyball team?

AMAT Varsity Mom said:

That is true whoever said the scouts will find you. My kid still gets his mail from Verti and it not dated but majority of the contact is coming directly to the house via mail or email. Most colleges have you fill out information or they get it from the NCAA Clearinghouse. Pretty simple. I have heard about kids not getting mail in the past but that is old news.

Dknott said:

just facts,

ur comment makes no sense. you compare McD
to McBride. You say the other kid was better. You say he went to citrus. Yet us say McBride could possibly get picked up by a D1 even if its not a big a big name. Now tell me the comparison again (citrus or fresno st) HMMMM. Obviously he wasnt as good you make him seem. Or is it that McBride isnt as bad as you make him seem.

still no amat fan has anwseres for me. I must have made them actually think before they started writing.

ananymous,
all you want is to start trouble. you sound like you still attend bishop. I dont mean attendence, I mean the way you act. Im sure its easy to insult people on line with no type of facts.
you have the perfect name

Nacho Libre said:

John:

You left out the Wrestling Team ???
No love for this years CIF Champs. Amat acts like it does not have a team ! Were's our Banner ??? Infact, we are missing 3 banners. This years team might just be the best team ever in Amats History ! & the Top Team in the SGV. Good luck to all the wrestlers playing football, stay injury free & we'll see ya on the mat in Nov.

Been there done that said:

they found him...with no help from Verti. actually didn't need Verti's help. again you have no idea what you're talking about. That Amat sinking ship...you keep bailing for them, okay??? Whatever you do, don't fix the hole! 0 - 3!! 0 - 3!!!

Conq'76 said:

Just the facts..

Binky Benton was 5'6 and about 180 but whaaaaaat a stud...he went on to play at either San Diego State or UCSD, I don't recall but he a true competitor.

Before I start thinking about if or where he may be playing next year, I am going to do my best to enjoy the spectacle this year...

Just the facts said:

Everyone forget about a Bad Ass dude named McD from Covina. Bigger than Bryce and all around better than Bryce..what did that get him Citrus College. Bryce is too small for a major D1 college but teams like Fresno state may take a chance other then that he is too small for a UCLA or USC program.

Dknott said:

I guess no one can awnsere my questions. Or is it that hard to find a reason worth backing

Anonymous 5 said:

Your smart ass reply doesn't make it any less true.

Neither does your vulgar reply.

How many people really post on this blog? I'm guessing its the same 10 people using different names.

Trojan Man said:

FYI , I am NOT too hip with the new terms . Sorry like I said , THEY ARE A GREAT LINE . That # 5 , well , he & his family should be proud . HE IS A BAD DUDE . Anyone rmember Wolfe Barber RHS , he was a BAD DUDE . Great on Offense & DEFENSE , Special teams too !!!

Conq'76 said:

TM,

Just messin' with ya' man...now, look down, your standing on chain! Get off my chain! .......There, now you too are "off the chain"!

Anonymous said:

Been there done that. Are you talking about the news letters for camps (junk mail)Universitys send to all the kids. If A scout wants your kids attention they go to the administration and get your home address and number. With your permission of coarse. How many scouts called you.. NONE.. Go Figure..You are so full of it/.

Been there done that said:

To Anonymous 4

Your smart ass reply doesn't make it any less true. You defend sh*# with sh#! And it only perpetuates the problem by pretending it doesn't exist. So keep on perpetuating...

Dknott said:

trojan man,

its all to the good. look that up. LOL

its all in fun

Dknott said:

I really dont mind any body makeing jokes about me. I stick to what blog is about. Ive been out of high school for years and have no ties with amat or LA. So this is all just fun to me. I do sense some hatred from bishop fans. tell me this. If bishop was doing better than LA would there be an issue? Im sure there wouldnt be. you amat fans sound like a barell of crabs, you only want to keep people at the bottom with you. If these comments are remotely tru about the coach, dont you think that is something to look at. I have heard these things well before this season started,. Why are you mad, Amat is loseing. They have never been a loseing school. You got to wonder why. There is always good talent there. Whats wrong with blameing the reason it might be. Im not attacking any one. All I know is high school kids dont lose on there own.Please can one amat fan give a logical adult anwsere.

Trojan Man said:

Conq76 Some of us OLD scholers are not "HIP TO THE NEW TRIP " Sorry I do not get out with the new generation much , but googled "off the chain" . Get it now , THEY ARE PRETTY GOD . NO HARM NO FOUL .


TM

Trojan Man said:

Conq76 Some of us OLD scholers are not "HIP TO THE NEW TRIP " Sorry I do not get out with the new generation much , but googled "off the chain" . Get it now , THEY ARE PRETTY GGOD . NO HARM NO FOUL .


TM

Anonymous 4 said:

Devry and ITT don't count.

Been there done that said:

To Anonymous at September 20, 2007 12:12 PM

My son's letters were given to him in a stack that was 2 - 3 months old...does that sound like a kid that didn't play???

Sheriff Andy said:

Anonymous,

Because they were given to the players late by Verti with a "my bad".

Anonymous 3 said:

"You attempts of defending him are feable at best."

Your attempt at knocking him down are cowardly. You must be that new age type of parent. All about me living through my son. You're a Joke.

Does not matter said:

0-3 facing 0-4 Amat. Changes are in order after this season. Verti is done unless he has a 5-year contract, but contracts are made to be broken. NO Wagner NO Austin = 0-4 it is getting ugly in Amat land. If Amat gets a win Friday it will be like fans sarcasticly cheering when a umpire calls a strike finally after missing the last 3strikes he called balls. Amat Nation or Amat imatation.?

Opinion said:

Hmm, am i the only one who thinks that "JAA" could possibly be the father of the QB at LA? From what has been put out there, Robles (the QB at NV) played behind this kid in Junior all american, thus JAA, but from what all have said, that was all political, since daddy was the coach.
Guess Everyone see's who the better QB is now. It always eventually come to the forefront.

Conq'76 said:

Trojan Man

Is there a list of acceptable euphemisms we should consult before posting? LOL!

Trojan Man said:

OFF THE CHAIN ??? WHAT CHAIN ???

Anonymous said:

Sorry.. The last post is to Sheriff Andy ,not from him..

Anonymous said:

Sorry, the last post is to Sheriff Andy Not from him

Sheriff Andy said:

If the invites were sent to Verdi, how do you know your kid or whoever was invited? Your starting to win me over.

Anonymous Too said:

Anonymous at September 20, 2007 12:12 PM

Is that as bad as you anonymously defending someone, ANONYMOUS??? Especially when YOU don't have the facts. This is no vendetta, it is simply the truth. You, Fred, Aram or anyone else can ask him. It is extreme negligence on his part as a HS coach and is a matter of record. I, as all should, just want the best for all of these young men. Pretending that it didn't happen or trying to escuse it away is not acceptable. PERIOD!!! You attempts of defending him are feable at best. His record, however, speaks volumes.

Dknott said:

If u want to see mcbride highlites for ur self just google bryce mahmud mcbride. I sve seen the hype. I must admit the kids line is off the chain.

Dknott said:

Amen to that

LA Conq said:

Who the hell said McBride is 5'8 190? Whoever the that is must be talking about a different McBride. The kid is about 5'5...maybe 5'6 and weighs probalby about 165 (he's EXTREMELY muscular!). He's built like a wrecking ball and I have yet to see him taken down by an arm tackle.

Who cares why he transferred. The fact is he did and is being very successful. You guys sound like a guy who sees his hot ex-girlfriend and won't admit she looks good. Just admit it guys...you'd love to have McBride back. Problem is he's found a new school and is loving it! Thanks for your sloppy seconds Lancers...keep 'em comin.

Anonymous said:

To been there done that/ Sheriff Andy/whatever other multiple screen names you possess,

Take your personal vendetta elsewhere. Accusations will only get you so far. I hope you don't teach your son these life lessons on how to anonymously accuse people on blogs. Maybe your child didn't receive letters because he didn't play? Just a thought.

WHO CAN BEAT THE TARTANS? said:

Not to cause a landslide of posts but Calpreps predicts the matchup of GLENDORA vs BISHOP AMAT as a landslide victory for the TARTANS.

In case you are interested, they also predict a landslide victory for the TARTANS against a matchup with LOS ALTOS.

WHO CAN BEAT THE TARTANS?

Been there done that said:

TO Anonymous at September 20, 2007 10:36 AM

You're wrong! Invites and letters ARE SENT to Verti, both by mail and email. Whether he passes them on to you is his choice. My son was a victim of that. that's why he left.

Anonymous said:

Sheriff Andy.. What players were invited? Yes, scouts get tape from coaches, parents, etc. Even Amats opponents, Scouts look at both sides. Tell me who your secret player is and I will tell you how to get exposure.. OK I will tell you anyway. The secret is..Be a good player.

JFR said:

Man that video took me back to the good old 80's.It looked like Coach Nemzek was calling the plays for Gano.

Barney Fife said:

To Sheriff Andy,
Lay off the Moonshine. What player from last years 5-5 team would have gotten an invite?
Point made!

Conq'76 said:

Joe Amat

Man, this type of forum would have been a blast "back in the day" wouldn't it?

Kids don't know how "good they got it" today...why we usta' walk 6 miles to school and back each day, both ways uphill! LOL!

Sheriff Andy said:

Sheriff Andy,, your whole post is bull... Invites are mailed to the players resident. Scouts get all game film and sit through thousands of hours looking for gems. You have no idea of what your talking about. Oh its Verti's fault? No way loser

Posted by: Anonymous at September 20, 2007 10:36 AM

You sir are WRONG. The Army invites go to the schools and through the coaching staff. How and where do the scouts get the game film? In most cases, from the HS coaches. But hey, you don't have to believe me, ask Verti. He proudly admits to all of it as if it is no big deal.

Conq'76 said:

The Wildcats are off to a great start.

Looks like I will have to miss the game this year, seeing it is at Wilson and I swore that stadium off a couple years back. Maybe the district can pony up some cash for some decent visitor seating or move the game over to MSAC.

Joe Amat said:

Conq76 - love reading your posts

john, always good and honest lancer takes

big panther- you said,

"...amat had a good team in the 70s but will "NEVER" reach that level again."

They were down in the late '70s, but If I remember they surpassed that level in the '80s-'90s.

They might just be a real good coach away from repeating that resurgence.

missing the boat said:

conq 76'

Gilmore is from Wilson 380 yds in two games has barely played in the second half either game. more explosive and flat out faster. someone needs to put up his highlights.

bulldog31 said:

Where's WC at? Your telling me 0-2 South Hills is better than WC? At least an honarable mention or SH not being so high on the list.

Conq'76 said:

Missing the boat

Where is Gilmore out of?

AMAT 73 said:

anony 9:49
Excuse Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee you're right non league. Thanks for being so observant . Now don't down grade AMAT because I used the wrong term. It is just that we mostly always have 3 or 4 games before league it kind of resembles preseason or I should have wriiten pre-league.

Conq'76 said:

Action at

You may be right, but I am 5'8 and stood next to him, sure seemed a bit shorter than me...but not by much. I would also be surprised if he weighed 185, but I do not claim expertise in such things, I could never make a living at the circus...

Anonymous said:

Sheriff Andy,, your whole post is bull... Invites are mailed to the players resident. Scouts get all game film and sit through thousands of hours looking for gems. You have no idea of what your talking about. Oh its Verti's fault? No way loser

missing the boat said:

Based on this Gilmore is better. Post some gilmore highlights there is no question.

action said:

Mahmud-McBride is actually 5'8" and about 185-190

Green said:

Recruiting is a business. Scouts make big bucks and get paid for their recruits If you have what it takes they will find you. Dont think other wise. Scouts could care less what a coach says. Its all about the money.

Sheriff Andy said:

To Barney Fife at September 20, 2007 09:58 AM

You don't seem to have all the fact either. Yes, scouts do recruit during second semester and yes they did visit and call Amat and speak with Verti. He turned several away saying he had no players worth recruiting. THIS IS FACT and came from the mouths of more than one recruiter and parents of Amat players, some STILL at Amat. Players were invited to the Army ALL AMERICAN game last year and he "forgot" to give them the envite.Those are the real reasons players have left along with all the talent that WAS there and not being utilized. Verti is his own worst enemy. Who in their right mind would want to play or want their kid to play for someone like that?

LA is overrated said:

Hey Gano, how 'bout scheduling Long Beach Poly from the Moore League, instead of scheduling the doormat of D1....better yet schedule Amat the "other" doormat of D1 and then let's talk.

Conq'76 said:

Anonymous

Seanez and Rodriguez are both capable athletes as is #25 Martinez. Teams will be forced to key on McBride, but they will soon find themselves chasing a few other guys when they do.

Conq'76 said:

Anonymous...

I stood bye him for a moment after the game last week, he was out of uniform and if I had to guess, I would say about 5-6 or 7 and 160, not a big guy at all. You are right about the line play, this has been the understated root of LA's success over the years. Often they are outsized but end up beating teams at the LOS.

I have to believe that the tactics and techniques they utilize are superior to many of the teams they face.

Anonymous said:

McBride is good, no denying that. But the problem is...he is the whole entire offense. I hate to see him go down, who is his backup?

LA looks good, keep it up!

Dknott said:

well taken. I dont even know the kid. I just like whut I see, so far. I only even talk about him because of the negative bloggers.

To Barney Fife said:

You don't seem to be informed, do you?

College coaches visit the high schools heavily in the second semester especially for the juniors soon to be seniors. Bryce didn't experience that at Amat because he left after Christmas after he told everyone he was coming back. Thanks Bro.

And Bryce WAS getting letters and I'm sure as the season would have gone on, he would have received more.

The Los Altos line and team should be paying Bryce for making them look that good.

Anonymous said:

Bryce doesnt look very big. Is it me or the video? How big is he?

Anonymous said:

Amat 73,

Preseason? NO wonder you guys at Amat are struggling, you didn't think the season had started yet and this is still spring or summer ball. LOL

THESE ARE NON LEAGUE GAMES BEING PLAYED NOW AND THE SEASON HAS STARTED. WAKE UP !!!!!!!!

AMAT 73 said:

Maybe there is some misunderstanding as to what I am trying to say. First and foremost in no way am I saying anything bad about McBride . I only wish him the best and hopefully he continues to have great games and gets a nice college scholarship.This is mainly directed to la fans. He is a good back but let's wait and see what pans out for the season before we bypass alot of other good backs to call him number one in the valley. 2 or 3 games does not make a season especially preseason.

Dknott said:

High school atheletes can start being recruited there sofmore year and sign as early as the begining of there senior year. Obviously no body is recruiting you or any one you know, bcuz you would no that.Ha1 you must be a kid.

Anonymous said:

Nothin against Bryce. but Los Altos O-Line is awsome. Check out the holes.

Big D said:

Hey Fred:

I wonder who sent in the footage and backround music on Mcbride?

Anyone care to guess?

Conq'76 said:

Regarding the McBride Highlights...Why didn't Freb tell us what number McBride Was more often? LOL!

Amat is fine said:

john at September 20, 2007 07:04 AND AND LAC

Total BS!

Mcbride has talk s--- since he left.

Get on campus and learn the real talk! You speak with NO FACTS! The kids know the truth not the parents running their mouth on this blog!

Bring on LA, and we'll see the real stuff!

Anonymous said:

"amat didnt help him get into college, but LA is." Dknott

You are right. Amat didn't get him into college because HE HAD ONE MORE YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL!

Seriously what are some of these bloggers IQs.

Anonymous said:

They wont beat SP. SP will be on a five game winning streak going into Amat. Amat wont be able to stop Haynes. He is a stronger runner than Grigsby and he ran all over Amat last year. Amat wont get more than 2 TDs against SP and Amats defense is there weak point so SP will win 35-14. Take it to the bank. Fred lets wager..

Dknott said:

Both games this week are huge. Mainly for stats and hype. Im waiting to see if McBride can live up to the hype, and the other schools are just good. We'll see this weekend.

Conq'76 said:

All

No doubt that Amat plays a tougher schedule than does any other SGV team, and that it is unlikely Mr. McBride would have performed as abmirably against Hart or Los Osos, but so what?

LB Wilson is not a "lower div" team, it is a lower echeoln team that competes in a D1 league. Los Altos may not win the Moore league if they were a part of it, but it is likely they would compete for second or third place.

Last year, I doubt if Amat would have had a better showing against El Dorado than did LA, DR or CO. The Golden Hawks were considered one of the top teams in OC. Sure behind Mater Dei and OL, but SGV teams competed well against the OC teams, teams many considered superior to Valley teams until the head-to-head matchups actually took place.

Many felt that Despains stepping down at LA was the beginning of the end for LA football. Gano has demonstrated an innate ability to produce winners. Whatever the reason, Amat has not been able to keep its program at the highest level in which it competes while other SGV teams have. Frustrating for fans of Amat? Absolutely. Does that mean that the rest of us who enjoy rooting for our teams should feel any less enthusiasm? Absolutely not.

Dknott said:

Lets face face it, amat is not the same program it was in the 90's. The coach is not coaching to help the players. Thats the bottm line. People say what they want, but the only fact real fact is that kids want to leave and amat is loseing. I dare any one to challenge that. McBride is 10 times stronger and faster than he was as a junior. People do get better. Thats why there is a thing called trainning, but most non atheletic bloggers have never ecperienced that. You should improve every year until you cant any more, and thats what he is doing. No kid should be knocked just for leaving a school. amat didnt help him get into college, but LA is. So all you amat fans who's kids have so much, but know one is seing it, call McBride. Im sure he has some connects. Im sure he'll even get a full ride some where. Free ed is free ed. Im sure the kids can get some grants at Mt Sac. since amats program is so good. LOL........ Stop Hatin on kids who want to improve there chance. Oh yeah, LA has no tuition.......LOL

big panther said:

Hey amat fans,
Like i said last week, amat had a good team in the 70s but will "NEVER" reach that level again. There's just not enough talent in the area that would "WANT" to go to amat,talking up a program thats going no wear fast 0-3 ?

Anonymous said:

fred -- thank you for not being like aram, it was shameful the cr*! he stirred up and i was disgusted the tribune let it get as far as it did at times. he is gone and i have moved along but THANK YOU for classing it up if even just a little bit. Fellow Trib readers -- give it time. let's not resort to gossipy, cheap talk - no need for it and all these players and coaches work too damn had.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 19, 2007 03:03 PM

OK Anonymous we understand it, you didnt like Aram you mention it at least twice a week here in the blog quit kissing Freds a$$ it's sickening you didnt get thee job Aram did move on or seek help!

john said:

For all the Amat fans that are talking smack about McBride, stop. This kid can play!!! This isn't the first time I have heard about Verti ruining the recruiting process for players. I know DiFiore didn't win the big one but he had kids in colleges all over the country and college coaches enjoyed talking to him and respected his knowledge. One of the jobs of a good coach is to help his players get recruited and get them to the next level. Did Verti get recruited to play at UCLA or was he a walk on??? Lack of knowledge on his part will kill a young mans opportunities and you can not blame a parent for noticing that.

If Verti continues down the road that he is going and 2-8 and #9 in the valley a possibility he will be hung by the Alumni this was supposed to be the year but for one reason or another he couldn't keep the team focused out of trouble or together. One of the coaches duties is to build a strong team both on and off the field. I as an alumni and my communications with others, we are not verry happy with what is going on. Msgr. Carroll has taken a proud institution and ruined it. The AD has no backbone when it comes to the administration and he should be replaced also. Mediocracy is acceptable by him and the admin. Lets look at the other sports.

Football - with all the big names that wanted the position we go after nothing more than an assistant coach.
Boys basketball- where has all the talent gone, with the gym that has been build they should be drawing a strong talent base.
Softball - from D-1 playoff team to a D-5 team that has players being recruited the debacle of last year should not have happened. Walt Martin is a good man and loves the players but the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Track- Amat was once a very strong and proud track school with many records, what are we doing now.
Girls Volleyball - Look at the facility, they could have gone out and gotten a top notch coach with experience past the JV level.
Soccer - So much talent for so long and a good coach finally fell in our laps.
Baseball - Amat is lucky that Andy Nieto and Hemenway have some history and the talent was there.

Good luck Amat but quit bashing the athletes that left and start building your legacy as others have done in the past.

Msgr. Carroll must retire or be replaced for Amat to get back to where it once was.

Sorry for the tangent of what is wrong at Amat but I need to go off once in a while. What do they say, pent up displeasure is not good for the soul.

LA is the #1 team in the valley at this point and lets see what happens this week at Damien and than at St. Francis. Gano has done a good job at duilding a team with a together atmosphere. Keep it up.

Who could beat Glendora? said:

Based on all measureable facts, predictions, power ratings, skill positions, etc...

GLENDORA: 49
CHARTER OAK: 6

Glendora is just way to much for CO to handle this early in the season. At this stage, Glendora could beat any team in the valley. Freemans Power Ratings seems to agree.

Omar X Castro said:

incase any of you spys would like to know if any other names show up from my url it is not me unless it says Omar X Castro foolish fools think before you make americans look like dirty harrys i am American

LAC said:

AMAT FAN....
Mcbride has never mentioned anything negative about Bishop Amat since arriving at LA. As a matter of fact I believe he's had nothing but good things to say about that prestigious school that you come from. Stay off the haterade for once and give us some credit.

N I thought we went through this Bishop Amat vs Los Altos thing a long time ago? Apparently not. If I remember correctly Aram talked to both Verti AND Gano and they both talked about how they wouldn't shy away at the chance to play each other. I guess Amat fans are bitter that there former players are shining at there New "lower division" schools. Whatever you want to say Los Altos will continue to get there wins while Bishop Amat will continue to be in the cellar of D1 for years to come.

LA IS WEAK said:

LA WOULD GET CRUSHED BY AMAT...

BRING IT ON! SIGN UP GANO IF YOU HAVE ANY B---S

Anonymous said:

MMMMMNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous said:

LA would beat amat

JFR said:

Fred,
If CO has that many questions on both sides of the ball, why do you have them #4. Coaching?

A. Campa said:

Pretty confident prediction there Fred. I look forward to the game. St. Paul 20, Amat 13. Hopefully by then, your No. 7 team picks up a win.

baja glendora said:

WHO'S #1?
That will be decided next week. Damien will beat Los Altos and Charter Oak wiil beat Glendora. The following week Damien plays at Charter Oak. Just some food for thought...


FredJ said:

No, they beat St. Paul

Still not so! said:

Donald

Kept speculating or trying to arrange the ten, twenty all you want.

Still doesn’t prove squat!

I guess the baseball program fared better droping to D5, oh but wait, that's a different story now that football is here!

A. Campa said:

Hey Fred,

(Bishop Amat) Lancers will win four of the next five? Is that one loss to a certain team from Santa Fe Springs perhaps?

AMAT IS FINE said:

LAC at September 19, 2007 06:21 PM

You guys over at LA, dont know s--- about whats going on at Amat. Oh, wait, probably heard from the Mcbride Family LOL

Why don't you guys just step up and schedule us!

Football Fan

Unless you attend school there everyday and play at Amat, SHUT UP!

We are so sick of hearing you ADULTS talk crap about Amat. Step up SGV and play us or SHUT UP!

Don said:

Don
Thanks for your opinion, but it doesn't hold true anymore!
Amat needs to either drop down so they can prove what many think or continue to lose players and lose where your at!
Changes are needed to correct the problem!
Posted by: Not So at September 19, 2007 03:15 PM

Mr Not So,

Thanks for the input.

I guess I just look at this differently since I am comparing the ten schools with others in the Valley rather than with memories of glory days past.

How do you think the ten in question would fare in playing a season against each other? Put another way, do you think Northview, Arroyo, or San Dimas could play the other seven and win a game? Would Glendora have opened up 2-0 against Amat and Los Altos? Maybe, maybe not.

On the other hand, would Amat have fared my better had they begun against Covina, Claremont, and Rosemead rather than three of the best teams in the section?

Interesting that three of the teams from this week's group will get to play each other in Miramonte contests. Los Altos, CO, and Diamond Ranch will all also get to play a damaged Bonita team to see who gets to face the SSS teams in the playoffs, (Seaview, San Antonio, Suburban, and S-S-S-Century Leagues).


Well, you know what they say about opinions.

AMAT 02 said:

I saw McBride break for some nice runs against St. Paul last year, had good games against weaker opponent but had no impact in the bigger games against Crespi, Carson and Notre Dame. Would he have shined had he stayed in D1 this year? hard to tell, but he obviously is doing better against lower division teams. I would probably say he would have made a difference against Los Osos since Wagner goes both ways, but no difference against OLU and Hart.

With McBride and I would even throw Wells in the mix, the Lancers would be 1-2

Fighting Lancer Parent said:

Hey....All the talk about Bryce is awesome. He grew up playing city league sports with my kids and otherswho have gone to do great things. I am not trying to take away his glory....but have you seen Donnie McWhirter from Western Christian...I know you had someone at the game last Saturday and I know they talked to him......but printed NOTHING he said. Come on share the spotlight.......

ps.....I did notice you picked western over St. Anthonys this coming Saturday.....I feel like taht is a good choice!!!

Go LANCERS!!!!!

Fighting Lancer Parent said:

Hey....All the talk about Bryce is awesome. He grew up playing city league sports with my kids and otherswho have gone to do great things. I am not trying to take away his glory....but have you seen Donnie McWhirter from Western Christian...I know you had someone at the game last Saturday and I know they talked to him......but printed NOTHING he said. Come on share the spotlight.......

ps.....I did notice you picked western over St. Anthonys this coming Saturday.....I feel like taht is a good choice!!!

Go LANCERS!!!!!

Fighting Lancer Parent said:

Hey....All the talk about Bryce is awesome. He grew up playing city league sports with my kids and otherswho have gone to do great things. I am not trying to take away his glory....but have you seen Donnie McWhirter from Western Christian...I know you had someone at the game last Saturday and I know they talked to him......but printed NOTHING he said. Come on share the spotlight.......

ps.....I did notice you picked western over St. Anthonys this coming Saturday.....I feel like taht is a good choice!!!

Go LANCERS!!!!!

football dude said:

wHAT THE HELL IS AMAT IN THE TOP TEN 0-3 NOT 3-0 ARE WE DOING A LITTLE BROWN NOSEN IF THERE A TOP TEN TEAM THAN SGV TEAMS ARE A JOKE.

football dude said:

Mcbride has done great up to now but truly do you think his been tested yet, lets see where he stands three weeks from now.Come to think of it I think ill go check him out friday night.

C Town player said:

"HOW ABOUT JAZZ DANIELS FROM COVINA?
7 SACKS AGAINST ONTARIO CHRISTIAN

Posted by: THE GREATEST at September 19, 2007 06:45 PM"

Just amagine how good he would be if he had any work ethic... WOW

THE GREATEST said:

HOW ABOUT JAZZ DANIELS FROM COVINA?
7 SACKS AGAINST ONTARIO CHRISTIAN

Football fan said:

Amat 73,

Why can't McBride just be a great RB?? Why is it that all the AMAT faithful have to discount a great offensive game just because he's no longer a lancer?? I don't care who you play in HS, D1 - D6.... 300 yards rushing in a single game by one player is an incredible game. Do you care that Kobe scored 81 against Toronto???? The fact is.....he scored 81 and that makes it a great accomplishment.

Marcus Wagner (Amat) got 200 against Los Osos. I'm not the biggest Lancer fan, but even so.....Wags had a great game. I give credit where credit is due.

Amat is NOT Fine,
McBride was the same great RB at Amat. The only things that prevented him from having the same kinda stats last year were a bad staff, a bad system, and injuries (due to bad Amat strength training). The reason he's experiencing success is due to his surroundings and the coaching. I've heard kids that are encouraged, put in the right system and are taught the game tend to be more successful.

We all know that Amat is in need of a Major Makeover. Let's not attack the kids that leave and are successful. Let's celebrate them and their parents for seeing the DEAD END sign and turning before it was too late.

Big Blue had it right. Give the kid his props for a great game. Sure, he still has some things to prove but one thing we can all see is his ability. We may end up seeing him on Sats next year(STAR or not).

Oh, by the way....I looked up the stats on Scout.com. 4.47 forty, 36.4" vertical jump. Speed and explosiveness. I don't see many D1 schools running away from that combination.


LAC said:

I truly doubt Mcbride left Amat due to not being the "star". That's ridiculous. Everyone knows Amat has some huge issues with players leaving and already having an 0-3 record. Give the guy his props and let him play. As far as the best player in the valley? He's top 3. He's supposed to put up those numbers against Rosemead and Long Beach Wilson....

Oh yea the O-Line had Longoria, Acuna, & Contreras missing the last game to and we all know the outcome. LA will take Damien.

Amat is fine said:

Conqs r US at September 19, 2007 04:41 PM

Amat football is not about one little b---- player. Its about our team..

The bottom line, your boy wasn't the star so he left...

Conqs r US said:

Amat 73, your right you did not call him a fool , but I still do not see him getting those yards against OLUTH AND HART. Maybe Los Osos. Your O-line is depleted. First your senior center goes down to a broken leg before the first game now Dominique Austin is hurt and now you have some of your o-line playing on the d-line which is very tiresome.....why do you think Wagner is hurt..with no o-line that talent that sits behind that o-line cannot and will not function......dont be surprised if RC makes you 0-4...

AMAT 73 said:

conqed r u .
Like I said he did what was right for him. Going to the lower levels to raise his game. I never said he was a fool . He couldn't be because he had enough sense to get a good basic education while at AMAT. But one can only imagine him doing those numbers against Los Osos,OL,and HART, Now that would be a hell of an accomplishment.

Conqs r US said:

He left because according to him Verti was F'ing around with his college recruitment. D6 or D1 with what he is doing now he will get the schollie he deserves and he will be showcased the right way and not the way you political has beens do it over there...Kiss my a-- a little harder and I will play you more and expose you to colleges.....thats why no one wants to play at Amat anymore...He sure did make the right decision and now college will be paid for ,well at least partially.. with Amat he would have never gotten that chance and would end up at MT. SAC like Gaise and soon to be Marcus Wagner. Momma did not raise no fool he did the right thing getting out of 0-mat.

AMAT 73 said:

la conqed r u
Why is it McBride did not show this type of talent against D-1 competiion . Now against D-5 or lower he is looking like superman. It easy to see why he left AMAT now.If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen . I guarranty if he had stayed and done this kind of damage at AMAT his star would look far brighter. But one knows their own limitations and he made the right move for himself.

Bleeds Blue and Gold said:

I AM THE ORIGINAL BLEEDS BLUE AND GOLD...

red, white, and fool,

How many times have we heard you boys talk your trash? All you have is a running back, that's it.

Why don't you schedule J. Serra? If and when you beat them you can say how you beat a school in the Trinity League that has MD, OLu, SJBosco, and Servite.

Keep dreaming.

Jhykron said:

"when a helmet missed the bad he was holding "

Ugh. Bag.

Jhykron said:

"What kind of injury did Longoria come down with.? why is he not playing?"

LA's injuries as of week 2:

Nick Longoria rolled his ankle in the Rosemead game. I heard he was available last week, but the coaches decided against it. As of last Friday, I heard he was scheduled to go this week.

Sean Acuna left the Wilson game with a sprained wheel. No idea what his status is.

Daniel Contreras was shelved in practice last week in a freak accident when a helmet missed the bad he was holding and rammed his knee. No word on his status either.

red white and blue said:

Los Altos beat the cra- out of a D1 school LB Wilson. Bring on the limping Amat. You ex-RB will run all over you.

Conqs r US said:

What kind of injury did Longoria come down with.? why is he not playing?

Not So said:

Don

Thanks for your opinion, but it doesn't hold true anymore!

Amat needs to either drop down so they can prove what many think or continue to lose players and lose where your at!

Changes are needed to correct the problem!

Anonymous said:

If Damien wins its only because of all the LA injuries. Damien would have no chance otherwise.

Anonymous said:

fred -- thank you for not being like aram, it was shameful the cr*! he stirred up and i was disgusted the tribune let it get as far as it did at times. he is gone and i have moved along but THANK YOU for classing it up if even just a little bit. Fellow Trib readers -- give it time. let's not resort to gossipy, cheap talk - no need for it and all these players and coaches work too damn had.

Don said:

Not that any of the Amat faithful need me or anyone else to stand up for them but I still say the Lancers could start Serra League play under .500 and still be one of the top ten teams in the valley. The only other local school that comes close to booking opponents like the Lancers is Diamond Ranch.

Winning non-league games is nice. Playing and beating high quality teams is better and upsetting a school that wins in a tougher division than yours is best of all. Stompin' the snot out of Montebello, Montclair, or the Montview just don't get it.

Rain? SO what said:

What makes you think rain would provide CO an advantage? You can hog tie the entire Tartan team in a snow storm and they would still beat CO! The Tartans love to play in the rain. They can attack on the ground or by air. Doesn't matter. Charter Oak is in for a long, long night.

GLENDORA 36
Charter Oak 6

Let's Go said:

Dknott at September 19, 2007 02:23 PM

Mcbride doesn't have D1 speed. Check the combines, I guess they might have a CORRECT clock LOL

We'll see how his small frame will take the BIG HITS!

Best player in the valley... Joke.. against who?

Worried said:

Two starting linemen out on a one-dimensional run team is not good. Longoria will probably not play and they lost another guy...big #51 or #61...Acuna or Avila, something like that.

This game will be close, but in the end LA will not be able to pass the ball well enough to take the heat off of McBride (who is EASILY the best player in the valley) who will have a long night due to poor blocking up front.

Damien by 10

Anonymous said:

NORTHVIEW 1 word.... speaking of going South.

Dknott said:

Let go!,

Mcbride has d1 speed. I wouldnt under estimate the kid. He might not get 300 yds against damien, but I guarantee he shocks any negative critics.

JAA said:

Anonymouse pretty soon north view will be going south. Have they ever played a football power house??? No explanation needed.

Anonymous said:

Anonymous @ 1:51 Oh, Rumor has it? What are you talking about? Did'nt your mom tell you not to make up "stories" You embarrased CO with that post

Dknott said:

Bryce McBride is comeing on strong. Who is this kid? It doesnt even matter,because if he keeps playing ball like he has been the whole world will know. I graduated from West Covina 10 years ago, so I hate Los Altos. You cant hate true talent.

Anonymous said:

to-- JAA what kind of opinion was that. try, like i said 'TRY' to explain your opinion about northview

Anonymous said:

to: JAA- Wow.... I think you must have been that loud obnoxious big mouth at the West Co Bruins game. Your last post just clarifies your son won't be going to Northview..... Thank Goodness for Northview.

Trojan Man said:

COWARDS . Woofing Glendora under the ANONYMOUS TAG . What is WRONG with Church , I am PROUD to say I am a REGULAR church going Man . That is most folks problem , not enough church . I look @ it this way , Church is like your FAVORITE seasoning , a little is GOOD , but too much ....yuck !!! And it is ALWAYS good to have The MAN upstairs on your side ...

MY two pesos ...

TM

JAA said:

Best Player So Far Oscar Robles?? is this a joke look at the school he is playing for. Might as well play for 8 man football.

Anonymous said:

Funny Glendroa is talking so much..Yet rumor has it they've already called school officals to say they won't play if there is a storm..I bet there is alot of Glendora folk in Church...
Remeber CO plays best in the rain..They aren't scared of a little rain

FredJ said:

To Glendora fans who have asked, I haven't seen Los Altos or Damien yet either. I watched Charter Oak last week and generally don't like to watch the same team two weeks in a row. Believe me, there's a grand plan to all of this. After Friday, I will have seen all the ranked teams in our top ten with the exception of Diamond Ranch, Glendora and South Hills. And with the Tartans playing the next two Thursday's, I will have a chance to watch both games.

Anonymous said:

Arnold---
Nice way to talk about children....
I'm sure you make your momma proud

la will kill damien said:

hahaha damien upset la....wishful thinking. damien is not the same as last years team. u can't win the big games!

give us glendora, that would be a real game!

NV said:

Type O

2-0

Let go! said:

Its going to be quite different moving Damien around like LA did to Rosemead!

Ready to hit someone hard!

Go Damien! said:

Damien just might upset LA!

LA defense is very questional and if Damien hits Mcbride up front, it may be a long night for LA.

McBride has yet to prove if he can take a good hit, bounce off cut and run. Alot of the holes, you could drive MAC truck thru. We'll see against a big team!

Lancer 02 said:

I remembered a few years back (02 or 03?) when Hart and Mater Dei started 0-3 (losing to powerhouse teams such as Mission Viejo, LB Poly, Orange Lutheran etc) and everyone was writing them off, it only fueled their fire as they both teams won their league title and Hart winning CIF.

Let's do it Amat, still can beat alot of good teams despite your situation.

Arnold said:

Glendora operates like a machine. Reminds me of the Terminator movies. No matter what you throw at them, they just keep comming at you.

Charter Oak will find out quickly, that there is nothing they can do to prevent the Tartan D or O from executing their game plan. I just hope the kill is swift and merciful.

Anonymous said:

How is Northview 3-0

CONQ FAN said:

HAHA there is no way that kid has 4.3 speed, but im sure that he is fast. It should be a good game this FRI though really good test for LA, not that good in my eyes, count to much on McBride, and we all know how Gano gets one dimensional, Good Defense will keep score down, hope Longoria is playin this week. To bad we have to count on McBrice breaking a few to stay in this game offensivly. But thats the proglem with Gano he likes to make his players adjust to his system not the other way around. IT has worked pretty well to this point though. Good LUck Fellas

various said:

My top 10, with comments...

1- Glendora: Act like youve been here before, oh wait, they never have, have they? Looking GREAT tho...
2- Los Altos: D wins chapmpionships, but can a one dimensional O get you there?
3- Diamond Ranch: Hard work (and opponents) paying off. Good karma rears its ugly head
4- Damien: Did they lose too much last year? Think game against LA this week tells us how season plays out
5- South Hills: Great talent, no doubt, but talent takes time to gel. How much time do we allow SH?
6- Bishop Amat: Looks like 2-8 for the year,and they probably end the year at number 8 or 9 in the final trib standing. Warranted?
7- Charter Oak: Injuries holding them back, but offense cant go to sleep for 6 quarters again. D is always steady!
8- Northview: Can young coaching staff keep young team focused and driven to meet expectations? They've started fast, can they end fast?
9- San Dimas: Are barbonne's shoulders broad enough to carry this team through the entire year?
10- Arroyo: Great offensive firepower, but D is questionable. Coach puts partida in situations to succeed.

so what ya think, am i close....probably not huh?

Trojan Man said:

I see Glendora BLOWING Charter Oak up the way USC BLEW UP that team from Nebraska .


TM

Try again said:

4.3 speed

BS, Morrison clock has always been wrong!

Tommy Tartan said:

Hey Fred,

That's twice now you're dispatching Steve to our game instead of viewing us in person. Nothing against Steve at all, you already sounds like a believer brother. Don't worry, we don't bite...we might lift up our kilts now and then, but don't take it as any threat. Oh, and the cheerleaders look pretty good too. Hope to see ya at at game soon!

I havn't heard mention yet of another angle of this weeks 2 big games. The league/division showdown. It's a big DII vs. DVI night or better yet a Sierra vs. Miramonte league throwdown for valley supremacy. Should be a good indicator with 2 or the top 3 teams in each league going head to head. As for the divisional challange you could argue that this is not 2 of the top DII teams, but still it makes for interesting fodder.

Anonymous said:

Fred why do you keep missing the Tartan games?
We love Steve all the same, but you are missing out on one of the Valleys best teams.

Anonymous said:

That's a perfect place for Amat's faithful to see the game. Those sightlines will expose ever good and bad aspect of Amat's team. Good luck and remember you're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution. Best of luck. Any status on Wagner and Austin?

AMAT 02 said:

FYI,

Amat's game against RC will be played at Chaffey College and not at Los Osos. Kick off is at 7PM.

Let's go big blue!

Anonymous said:

Alot has been made of the Glendora-Charter Oak matchup. Glendora will bring the blitz early and often to test and flush out CO's QB. That leaves draws and slants as CO's options. CO will try and test the single coverage of Glendora's man coverage where CO might have the advantage given CO speed and Allen's arm strenght. Also expect CO to try some reverses to slow down Glendora's backside pursuit which is very good. I haven't seen Charter Oak play this year but I have seen Glendora and they are legit even if the Glendora faithful are a little over the top sometimes but hey they're due. Tough to think CO is better than last year but than again that's what people would have said about Glendora this year.

A better matchup in my mind will be Damien at home against Los Altos. Los Altos might explode for 48 points and McBride might go off for 4/5TDs. At least one of those will come on a kick return. McBride will be Damien's quickest, strongest and most skillful RB they'll face this year and the young LBcrew will really have to step up. I don't see that happening. Damien's Dfront is big and slow but they work hard and never give up but slow is slow. Not alot of stunts just stay home or bull rush. I see LA testing that lack of speed with sweeps and LB Williams having a 14 tackle night. On offense Damien's QB Pertuati has to have the game of his life yet again. Damien has no running game unless Mchahan lines up in the backfield. Damien needs to commit to 2way players based on game advantages. Mchahan SS/RB, Sharer FB/DL,RabeDE/OL,HerreraWR/FS,Kornipra CB/Slot, Carter CB/RB, need to play both ways even sparingly for Damien to make the playoffs. Why Rabe doesn't play offense is as ridiculous as Escharise not going both ways last year. Coaching decision I'm sure but really a little perplexing given their needs. In baseball the sayings goes the Dominicans don't walk of the island and in football your high school studs don't sit half the game! If they sit half the game in high school they'll sit the whole game at Citrus, MSAC and Chaffey.

Chris Rome said:

RAIN MAN.. Jake,"El Toro",Vega will be unstoppable on a wet field.

Big Blue said:

I also like McBride, but he has yet to be tested. I give him his props but I do not think he would be gaining that type of yardage if he were playing against O-Luth and Hart had he stayed at Amat. getting those yards against Rosemead and a LB Wilson team is good but not great. He will be challenged soon, also it looks to me like he is carrying that teams offense, what else do they have offensive wise. Their D is good but they have not played anyone yet. Damien will challenge them this week. Amat 4 out of 5 never. We are really banged up right now and we will go 2-3 in the next 5 games hopefully.

FredJ said:

I'll be at Los Altos-Damien and Steve will be at Glendora-Charter Oak, the obvious two games of the week...

Anonymous said:

my vote is for ryan mcmahon 5-10 190 strong saftey with 4.3 speed mcbride is in for a wake up call this fri nite

FredJ said:

Step it up, I'm not Aram, these comments generate enough controversy without Steve and I adding fuel to the fire...But you're right about more of a variety of topics, and that's coming..this is only week three.

Rain Man said:

Rain is coming on Saturday!

It will be interesting to see if this affects the games!

Now, who has the best running attacks if the ball is wet to throw?

Trojan Man said:

STEP IT UP ....STEP OFF . Go to TMZ .COM for controversy ...Fred & Steve are doing JUST FINE .

Chris Rome said:

FRED and STEVE, Where are you going to be this Friday?

Step It up fred said:

Fred your doing a great job so far, but their is a controversy factor missing here. I hate to compare you to Aram, but Aram knew how to push exactly the right buttons to get a reaction or an answer out of a coach, school, or just create a good blog topic. Its the same stuff week in and week out right now ..Its getting repetative. Mix it up a little bit. WE NEED SOME CONTROVERSY!! Step it up a little bit Fred.

Glendora/CO highest interest said:

Glendora/CO game has the great interest. My opinion though is that there will be no stopping Glendora and this game will be very one sided. The big game will be Glendora/El Dorado. Hopefully then the Tartans will get the much deserved support from around SGV.

The Damien/LA game would most likely be a closer match.

Conq'76 said:

Having only seen McBride, I was mighty impressed!

If these boards are any indication, it looks like CO vs. Glendora is generating more interest but I think that is due to the Glendora faithful excited over the prospect of a strong play-off run in something other than round-ball!

I am looking forward to Glendora El Dorado, those Hawks need to see an "L" from the SGV. If CO plays well and "represents" and even wins, and then the Tartans ground the Golden Hawks, they, El Dorado, will have to believe that a sweep of the Miramonte will not be had this year around Thanks Giving!

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