oh my god, you guys are right

what are we los altos fans thinking?
supporting a school that has more cif titles than anyone around
supporting a school that has a class act coach
supporting a school where other players come and want to play for
what were we thinking

jeremy,conq 76, conq fan etc.,

McBride being the exception, but, You brought in junk/scrap parts from another school. Well junk breeds junk and your car looks to be smashed right now. The downfall was putting the Amat rotten Eggs in your basket and thinking it was going to come out smelling clean with Championship results. Be honest, you know your season is done and the approach of bringing in cast offs hurt your team more than it helped. Your coach should be allot more loyal to his underclassmen and homegrown players as well as grooming his program from within the system. Tamayo,Tillis,Ortiz? most likely a desperate move on your coaches part because he had nothing in the reserve tank of JV players, but if he did have the talent and choose the quick band aid relief road with the Amat cast-offs he screwed your season big time.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 18, 2007 10:50 AM

rgd2626:

"you and i both know, gano hates to play away at private schools"

Actually, I was going by opinions other than Gano's, but it doesn't surprise me.

Nor does the amount of anonymous backbiting that little revelation causes . Too bad, really, LA-Damien was a pretty good matchup from a local fan perspective.

"i do know he thought they were gonna get glendora this year but it didnt work out"

I heard Glendora, La Habra, Northview, and La Serna (?) rumors at different times, but only the Northview game is official.

"i really like the idea of playing zero week."

Meh... it's okay if you have an experienced team, but I'd rather a bunch of first year Varsity players got in a scrimmage first.

You cannot play the private schools? I guess? St. Francis proved that this year and last year. Damien maybe? how about Bosco Tech or Saleisan?

jhkron,

do not like games at private schools? Ok thats the reason why the Conqs. will not come to Keifer.

jhykron
you and i both know, gano hates to play away at private schools, i do know he thought they were gonna get glendora this year but it didnt work out,these people need to understand there a LOT more to it than just wanting to play someone,it has to work out for all the teams your playing not just the new ones there trying to get,and i really like the idea of playing zero week.

Conqs,

Play St. Paul and Amat.

Joe Amat,

look you fesicious ....LOL! It's funny both sides are usually at each others figurative throats.

Anyway.... Joe Amat, North Whittier is a GREAT point. My in-laws to be grew up and live in that neighborhood, the area that people treat like the taint between HH/LP and Whittier, not many people know that it exists, local government discards it, and everyone has a thousand different names for it.... City of Industry, La Puente, Bassett(I assure it's not, ask the local veteranos), Avocado Heights, etc. I personally like the place.

Anyway, believe you me North Whittier, as I have come to refer to it, is UP FOR GRABS! Why? For the very reasons that mentioned, and not to mention, who would want to send little 13 y/o papito who is a decent athlete and student to PIONEER?!? No thank you.

Joe A, as I've seen in my 6 year experience with the area, there are some kids who go to private school namely St.Paul, but quite a few kids that I've seen or known have attended LA, FIVE that I can confirm just along Loumont, Anderton, and Oakman street. Four of them were male athletes.

You are right, LA vs. St.Paul aka the war for North Whittier, perhaps? Not completely, but that would have some stock. I think.

Jeremy:

I haven't heard anything about St. Paul. I'd tend to doubt it... I'm not sure LA likes away games at private schools.

Jeremy -That's a pretty good take on St Paul and amat, essentially being the same in scheduling - so why 1 over the other?

Isn't St Paul still a pretty strategic opponent to get those kids from North Whittier that might be making a choice? Are their enough of those kids to fight over. Maybe some HH kids are going over the hill too?

If the schedule is open - why not both?

Jhykron - classy to use #'s instead of kids names. Those that know understand who you are talking about and those that don't have no idea and no kids get called out. Nice move. Really.

Jhykron, rgd2626, Conq'76, etc;

thank you for your input.

more questions have been raised.

Rumor has it, they are trying to schedule St. Paul, IF that is true, why St.Paul and not Amat?
What I mean is don't get me wrong, I'd be very satisfied with that, but as far as logic I'm a bit confused. What is the difference between Amat and St.Paul, they seem to be equals, you are basically scheduling a different team, but the same "monster", you know? Could this have to do with not wanting to risk losing some of the prospects from the local talent pool, if a loss was to result?

Jhykron,
you are very right about #9, he does out perform in practice a majority of the time, hell I love watching him practice the few practices that I have seen, he just seems to clam up a bit in games.
#2 makes the best catches, and drops the least amount of passes, again from what I have witnessed. You mentioned two guys who would be outstanding if they would just not drop so many passes.
God forbid, if #9 went down with an injury, who would you send in there? I'd go with #19, which is where Gano seems to be at.

rgd2626:

1. Anything's possible, but I find it unlikely because of #2.

2. Hard to say. I'd have to imagine they're going to be -very- young, since only 2 starters on the whole roster are returning (the place kicker and the center). They have some plausible skill kids (#4, #29, #22, #32) that are filling out the special teams right now. The lower levels have a lot of size for once. Wouldn't suprise me if a lot of sophmores got to play (like in 2001 and 2004).

3. As far as the QB situation... no question #9 has struggled, but you can't just replace him with -anyone- (like some people have called for), you have to replace him with -someone-. And using the guys he consistantly out-performs in practice and warm-ups is a hard sell. Frankly, the only other option worth considering is #11 (who started at QB as a Freshman (ahead of Tomsio) and Sophmore), and he hasn't played the position in over a year, plus has been needed on defense.

As far as receivers, the addition of #10 should help immensely. #11 is okay on the stop and curl... throwing to him on the post up the sidelines has been a complete waste of downs. #1 is deadly as hell if you can hit him in the open field, but he isn't exactly the easiest target to see or hit. #33 hasn't been bad, but hasn't been used much either. #2 is still around... I don't know if he wants to be a receiver or not (QB and DB don't seem to have worked out). You can always throw to #5 and #25 out of the back field, too.

All Los Altos has is McBride. One star is not going to get it done. D'Ranch coach pretty much gave his game plan away defensively but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out stop McBride and Los Altos is beat. How many more teams will copy that approach and beat Los Altos this year. This was no Accident even with Rodriguez and Contreras stopping McBride was the key going into the season, it makes it so much easier now. The next thing is you over use him to compensate for a non existant passing game and you blow him out with a injury and his college offers get jepordized. I pray this does not happen to this talented yound man with a brite future ahead of him. Hope your coach is not one of those type to do this at the expense of winning a game in a season that is going nowhere.

jeremy
1.i dont think so, in my opinion, why tinker with success.they have won more cif titles than any other local school, and they are number 3 on the whole cif southern section for titles.
2.it seems like every year you think , will they be as good or have enought talent, i think they will, i also think these injurys are helping them for next years squad, some other players getting experience.
3.i too wont talk about players badly here, i am one who deosnt think tamayo is doing a bad job, look how many points they have scored.since the first time i saw him my thinking was he wont win games for you but i dont think he will lose them either, if they dont give up a lot of points there right there in every game,and i think they lost to a very good south hills team ands as far as st francis is concerned, they played better than any team as played them in a long time, that was there night,asa gano said st fr played lights out that night.

jeremy,conq 76, conq fan etc.,

McBride being the exception, but, You brought in junk/scrap parts from another school. Well junk breeds junk and your car looks to be smashed right now. The downfall was putting the Amat rotten Eggs in your basket and thinking it was going to come out smelling clean with Championship results. Be honest, you know your season is done and the approach of bringing in cast offs hurt your team more than it helped. Your coach should be allot more loyal to his underclassmen and homegrown players as well as grooming his program from within the system. Tamayo,Tillis,Ortiz? most likely a desperate move on your coaches part because he had nothing in the reserve tank of JV players, but if he did have the talent and choose the quick band aid relief road with the Amat cast-offs he screwed your season big time.

Jhykron, Conq'76, rgd2626,
*(optional)
1)is it possible that we'll see an LA/Amat game next year, or any time soon?

2)What do think of next years projected LA team?

*3)do you think that a QB and/or WR changes would help LA this year?

My thoughts are:
1)I hope;
2)not as experienced as this years team, but I feel that they will have more demensions and depth;
3)I'll decline to answer for now, I don't want to knock or call out anyone. Although I will say this, I like Howing at the Saftey position. From what I can see in practice, I'm not sure why they aren't utilizing Tillis as a WR, and if you are going to gamble your season with one player at a certain position, why not gamble with a player who is clearly a part of your teams future at that position. Then again I'm not the coach, and Gano and crew, are tons more qualified than me to make those calls, but like you and me they are human and prone to mistakes. Again I could be speaking nonsense.

What do you guys think??

conq 76
shauns no dummy, he says the tat has a double meaning, southern cal
shaun cody
lets hope for the best tonight,ive seen dr, they have a lot of talent , might be a long night, then again would be no surprise if somehow we pull it off.

Beep Beep Dan,

CONTENT OF THE ARTICLE:
Five games I would love to watch next season
Bishop Amat vs. Los Altos....

Are you that short sighted that you only read the titles and not the articles?

thanks

FLUSH!

rgd2626

Pretty cool, I've shaken their hands a few times at the games, but Cody does have a big SC tat but to my knowledge, no big LA tat! Whats up wit tat!?

Joe Amat

Don't forget the legacy of the WC Spartans! They were always right there also...

*****DISCLAIMER******

I am NOT and I repeat NOT posting under these aliases.... Former High School Coach and Football Knowledge.

So all you Clone haters can just relax and take a deep breath......see I told you I'm a nicer gentler Clone almost borderlining on being "soft".

OUT!

Mike the Clone

betting man

Talk with you friday night. leave the keys under the mat!

Title - Charter Oak, Glendora End Contract.

Where in this title does it say anything about Los Altos or Bishop Amat?

Are you that full of yourselves that you can't stick to the topic?

Throw crap on your own thread!

if i could bet id bet my mortgage on it!

betting man

don't count on it!

i would love roche and c. hills to mop up on pasqy and glend this friday night and make it another cif champ coach showing pasqy the ropes! my money's on the huskies.

RGD,

we might know each other although you might want to ask Gano because my parents him consider him a "fifth" son from back in the day at WCALL. If you ask him he'll know who I am.

jfr
and no. im not involved in softball, just a good friend of gregs and an la supporter, like i said, have a lot of ties at both schools, la and co

jfr
way off base, not trying to pump up anything, softball at la or co doesnt need pumped up,and im saying what i said about gano from conversations we have, what i said was, dont be surprised if he leaves soon,my honest opionon is hes waiting for felipe to get his teaching papers, thants my opionon not greg saying that to me.so, was i right? we know or know of each other.

Glendora baseball a joke, glendora football good but not great, just the way Leduc likes it. Glendora basketball is the only sport that will be "allowed" to win a CIF title while Leduc is in office. What's that tell you about coach P.? If he was a championship coach, he wouldnt be there. Think about it. What P has to do is win over the fans, parents, kids, everybody to have ANY shot to overcome obstacles. Moves like this that anger people and elicit emotional feelings are not smart on his part. My opinion. Sorry if it offends some of you.

You pascy supporters are counting cifs when he was an asst at northview 20 yrs ago LOL LOL Lets see I won a Little League title when I was 12. So funny. I never said he was a bad coach BUT not a championship coach. That has been proven at Ayala, Damien, now Glendora (which has NO shot in the inland division) He's now not allowing his kids to play in one of their fav. games of the yr? Hes lost these kids now, like the prev post indicated. Ask the people at Damien to find out if they're upset he left. You d get some interesting answers. Ferrar schooled him now he wants to play the "I dont play that style game" trying to discredit how Ferrar teaches. Lets compare rings Pascy. Then come talk to me. Stay above all this mess, Lou. You're better than this. Truthfully, Football knowledge

jfr
smartest thing you done in here lol

RGD,

I just found out who you are and I was incorrect. I highly doubt Greg is going to give up football to coach his daughter in softball. I now know that you are involved with softball and trying to pump up a spring sport with a breaking story.

Sorry!

RGD, I think I know but I'll keep it to myself.

I'm kicking myself right now!

jfr,
keep thinking,you know me and or my family, a lot of us around

Joe Amat:

Like I said, when have I -ever- said anything about Amat? Or anything about what's a valid point about any other team?

Why the hell are you calling out my post to (apparantly) argue with someone else's point?

j-hyk

Intelligent response. Thanks.

I just think it's amusing how reasoning goes full circle when it's convenient. "...These things run in cycles..." is not a valid point when it comes to someone else?

Conq '76 - those years you speak of were awesome, and great for the SGV to have South Hills, Los Altos, and Amat all competing in the top division.

RGD, still trying to figure out who you are. Still waiting for a response.

Joe Amat:

Excuse me, but did I at any point say anything about Amat? I sure as hell wasn't "debating", nor was I addressing you, so kindly piss off.

conq 76,
it was nice to see shaun cody at the game last week,he and brigham harwell usually come on there off week , once a year, i was thinking they both might be there but i think brigham wasnt there due to his injury,what class those two young men have, shauns mom allways wears his la jacket, then his girlfriend had it on later, i like the way he still supports la, hes never worn usc or lions stuff there, very cool,gano has the best picture in his house of shaun blocking that extra point in the rose bowl, swear it looks like the camera is on the holders head, awesome picture,brigham used to come over to my house, my daughter would tutor him in math, nicest guy around, but dam could he eat,

Joe Amat how ya doing I have some time today to hang with my buddies. Say hi to Blu and MAT for me. Sure do miss the time I had before to blogg with you guys.

I've been wanting to get over to Amat to see you guys battle but it would have to be when you guys are home and when we play on a Thursday. My "sched" is so screwed up, that even getting to a "bagpiper" game is hard.

Oh well such is life, I got to suck it up and deal with it.

Keep'em in line Joe

OUT!

Mike the Clone

Ya know I just hate when a thread that's supposed to be about Glendora & Charter Oak gets taking over by all you Los Altos honks........

Laughing!

Mike the Clone

Jhykron

I do find it interesting that when it comes to Los Altos it's, "...Sure, it ain't 2003 any more, but 2003 isn't -that- long ago either..."

Yet it's Amat that is living in the past when someone mentions destroying Damien, Charter Oak,Glendora or beating Mater Dei and Loyola (CIF Champions) in the 05-06 school year

or

"... I'm not sure the demographics are really that much different than four years ago..."

yet amat isn't restricted to any community demographics that would hold them back..

Interesting debate strategy.

Conqs R us, we have a young man by the name Isaic Ramirez

Don't ever count out LA people, I've seen them step o to many teams when their down and the others are up. Learn from history.

Gano wants another RB for next year, go get Leonard Rhodes of Walnut he is big Sophmore that is going to turn into a good one. Walnut is going nowhere so why not rip them off.

RGD, Do I know you?

I am a CO fan but can't figure out what happened 2-3 years ago, being honest. I've been abscent for 2 years but have never lost that much touch with co.

Give me a hint as to who you are, it's easier for you to find who I am.

Conq'76:

These things tend to run in cycles. Certainly Hacienda Heights was hurting more for football in the early 90's then now... then look what happened. Sure, it ain't 2003 any more, but 2003 isn't -that- long ago either, and I'm not sure the demographics are really that much different than four years ago.

If nothing else, maybe LA will be more than 1 deep at some position besides tailback next year.

jfr,
i would say the chances of you and i knowing each other are very good.

jfr
if your a true co fan you know exactly what im talking about, has nothing to do from way back in the past, go back oh lets say 2-3 years ago,

jhykron

I was very skeptical of this years team and was very proud of the group Gano put together. I am sorry to see the injuries that have contributed to a very tough situation. The reality is, Hacienda Heights, demographically, is a community that would be very difficult for any coach to start a program from scratch in. If LA had not built its reputation over the last three decades, it is doubtful Gano could have persuaded the likes of Cody, Harwell and McBride to go to school there.

That being said, the school has given lots of "joy" to a lot of people for a very looooong time, and having spent some time with both Despain and Gano, it is my opinion, they are both quality people who have a desire to win. However, they both play within the rules and have earned the respect of the vast majority of both the players and the families they have been charged with coaching.

I wish them luck, but having been around when they were beating the likes of St. Paul and Loyola for top level championships, I still enjoy it when they give CO or Long Beach Wilson a run for their money

Cong'76:

You are, of course, correct, but I heard the game was dropped anyway.

I hear a number of teams have already called... if you look at how little LA's Varsity roster has returning next year, you get the idea that some local teams smell blood in the water.

RGD2626?

Fred,
Take out Hart and plug in South Hills in that spot and do you really think Gano would call us for a game. Just look at what conq76 says " never ever and I don't blame him." True sign of alot of confidence in their program.

coach p was an assistant at NV coach Bevridge? was the head coach and they worked LA for the tite.

coach pasqirella is a former s.hills huskie who played center is a brilliant coach , im sure you 50/50 even 75% ers would love to have him as coach. look more closely at his back ground before you spout.check stats for yrs at ayala, damien, glendora, and northview where he won a CIF TITLE, their last title probably before you were born sir spoutnonsense, late

Some sense out there...MTC, I agree with you and Chris, those talking about "the chop blocks" in reference to that tackle was embarassing. Most bagpippers know the difference. The hit was legal...a risky style of hit to be sure, but legal. CO did win, credit given. Certainly not a onesided win as some of their "buttonwearers" like to spout (I'm sure our highlight video of the game looks like we blew you out), but a win for sure. I do believe there is a good and logical reason for not continuing the game for now and that it has the best for our next group of kids in mind. If we schedule someone like DR in place, who can argue with that? It's just too bad this game couldn't stand year after year. Oh well, move on. And Fanatic, let's not put "CIF finals" on these boys. Our division is loaded at the top (5 or 6 teams in the Times top 25). Not saying we can't hope, but realistic is to get a home playoff game and get into the second round. After that it's all gravy I say.

rgd2626,
I believe you mentioned that you coached at RO so are saying you have some dirt.

How about before league play a SGV bowl series. If it was a reality using this years teams. TOP 8 teams. Teams to be selected before the begining of the season based on their last year record and finish as chosen by the SGV tribune writers EXAMPLE ONLY:.Pool A: Los Altos,D'ranch,SoHills,Bishop Amat.

Pool:B Charter Oak,Glendora,Duarte,Damien

Single Eliminaton winner takes home the SGV Tribunes Trophy cup with their School name and year engraved. This Trophy will travel year to year to the winner. This would settle all SGV talk as to who is the best team and all Bishop Amat Challenges.

conq 76,
my mistake, was thinking of st francis, and yes they have a 4 year contract but most are 2 year.

rgd2626

I have attended the two games at LA but did not go to the second game in the four year contract at Long Beach

FANatic is on the Blog!

Thanks Mikey!

I forgot to mention, what a dynamic player in CO #4 Snowden. This kid has to be nominated as the most valuable player to a team. He is absolutly amazing. Whats your thought?

FANatic has left the Blog!

FANatic,Chris Rome,

Point taken and glad I have some time here to get some "takes" in with you guys. FANatic hope all is well. Your one of the "oldtimers" and I miss the banter with you and the others.

But from what I'm hearing this is just a plain stupid move. You're right maybe I should have waited for a explanation. But I tend to beleive when Coach Lou calls out "Pasqy" and say's go ask them (Glendora) I'm thinking if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. With that said, nothing is going to take away from the season thus far that we are having.

Something tells me were are going to have to be traveling all over the country again like we did in the past. (Remember Valencia another bone head move)

We have talented LOCAL ball clubs wanting a piece of us. Let's take care of business here play the locals and start great rivalries. As I have said before we should be playing schools like Amat, Los Altos,and others just to gear up for league play. Hell I'm even willing to slip some of those "softies" from west of the 605 into a little pre-season tussle.

Chris, yeah that whole chop block issue is just a "non issue" but yet some "dopes" keep bringing it up as if it really matters. EEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DEAL WITH IT LOSERS! And as far as dropping CO yeah it does have alot to do with football. Glendora threw the dart and has really missed the bullseye on this one.

Late Guys!

Mike the Clone

la has only played lb wilson 2 years/
and to jfr,
i dont think you really want to get into talking about other coaches and class do you? and or honesty, do i need to say more?

I second what MTC said. Stop with the chop block crap. Glendora not playing Charter Oak is a off the field issue and has nothing to do with football. FANatic, You hit it on the head. Reserve judgement until the facts are known. Some of you will be ashamed of yourselfs for 'throwing those darts'

Jhykron

I may be wrong, but I thought LA vs Long Beach Wilson was a four year contract with only three years down.

Is it me or does that Glendora picture conjure up some sort of "Little Red Riding Hood" images?
LOL

FANatic is on the Blog!

Mike the Clone, my friend, shouldn't we wait until we learn the true reasons why the contract was not renewed before we start throwing around darts at coaches like the Tartan Haters tend to do? Keep cool and away from this until the REAL truth comes out. I respectfully suggest this only as a fellow Tartan faithful.

Coach P. is a very respected coach who will ONLY act in the kids best interest. Perhaps the perfect opponnent has became a "contract free agent" and Coach P had to let an expired contract lapse so he could schedule this team. Hey, there are only 5 pre-season games.

Do we really know why the contract was not renewed?
I guess only the Tartan haters know for sure...right? When the real truth comes out, then we can all act as the judge and jury. But, until then lets not side with the distracters. It only places unecessary clouds over a program which is having a very good year going into a very tough game this week!

Some people will continue to hate on Glendora all the wall up to the CIF finals. I say so what!!

FYI, I will personally miss the Glendora/CO games as I did when CO pulled out of the contract a few years ago. And, anybody who thinks the last Glendora/CO game was a ravaging victory, wasn't at the game. This game ended just like last years game. A great battle between two giants all through the game. The team with the last possesion was going to win the game.

FANatic has left the Blog!

pasky just got tired of Ferrar making him look bad thats all.

Will the "bagpiper button wearers" quit with all this illegal block crap your embarrasing some of us and besides you just look foolish.

Charter Oak beat us, simple as that.

I mean really quit with the excuses already, your argument is weak.

Out!

Mike the Clone

Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2007 04:44 PM
Somebody, please explain this chop block situation in full detail.
would like to hear the truth. Was there penalties invovled? Was it a good play or bad ect.

An illegal “chop block' is called against the offensive team when a player makes a block below the knees OUTSIDE OF THE FREE BLOCKING ZONE or makes a DELAYED BLOCK BELOW THE KNEES. The second can happen inside the FREE BLOCKING ZONE or OUTSIDE THE FREE BLOCKING ZONE. ((The Free Blocking Zone is an area four yards wide and three yards deep on either side of the ball at snap).

The play in question wasn't a block at all, but a tackle, made not by an offensive player, but by a member of the kicking team (defense).

This is a legal, but dangerous type of tackle in which the defender dives headlong into the legs of the ball carrier. Many coaches no longer encourage this type of “selling out” as it puts the defensive player at FAR GREATER RISK OF INJURY, most commonly concussions and neck injuries.

#4 OWNED GLENDORA ALL NIGHT. THE HIT THAT HURT THAT KID WAS LEGAL. ANOTHER PART OF THE VIDEO SHOWS A GLENDORA PLAYER TRYING THE SAME TACKLE ON THE CO QB BUT ALLEN SIDE STEPS AND GETS AWAY. SAME ANGLE SAME TACKLE. THINGS HAPPEN. WHAT WOULD GLENDORA SAY IF THE TACKLER HAD BEEN HURT...HE DESERVED IT!!!!

GLENDORA CONCENTARTE ON YOUR DREAM SEASON INSTEAD OF DREAMING UP EXCUSES.

GLAD TO HEAR THE BOYS IN QUESTION HAVE MADE FRIENDS, CAN'T WE ADULTS LEARN FROM THEM.

GET WELL KID AND HATS OFF TO THE VICTOR!

From one player to the next, tell your coach to let us play. Diamond Ranch vs. Diamond Bar. The battle of the city! You know all our Pop Warner coaches would be there. Our schedule is still open. Schedule us before its too late. Don't use any excuses this tyime. Talk to your coach. You know you want it too.

Diamond Ranch is lining up Glendora if they say yes, Bishop Amat (will happen), keeping Oaks Christian, Edison, and Chino Hills. If one drops they will look into another tough opponent. Is Diamond Bar really worthy? They are afraid and for good reason. It would be a great rival and should be an annual, but Diamond Bar HS will not match up with Diamond Ranch. It is fun to consider but... no one at DBHS will allow their team to lose grace in the city that use to support their sports programs. Football ended when Terry Rouche left and DR's began when Layton arrived.

DR is attempting to schedule Diamond Bar HS. This is a city rivalry. It will be the biggest game on DBHS schedule if they play. These kids (on both sides) grew up playing Pop Warner and Little League together. Someone from Diamond Bar HS call coach Layton and make it happen. No excuses for not having this game! This is what the city deserves. C'mon Diamond Bar HS make it happen. The school's number is (909) 397-4715. How can you rationalize not playing Diamond Ranch? It has been 10 years and you still haven't played???? Coach Layton is here to stay and knows how important this game is to the city. Don't forget he grew up here and played for Diamond Bar Pop Warner. He gets it! We get it ! The kids get it! We all want it! Please call and make it happen! (909) 397-4715

the tartans stilll complaining about a play thats 110% legal in football...THE CUT! it is NOT illegal to take your face mask right to someones knee as a method of tackling !!

im gonna use jason david as an example...when jamal lewis breaks to the 2nd level you will not him or any other db take him up high...you will see him cut the guys legs out from under him

the last 15 years your football program has been average...your best team in 10 years got beat by your most hated rival and you guys are lookin for any excuse to make tight now

this is perfect for all you glendora bloggers though, next year you can talk about how IF co and glendora played what the score would be orrrrr what calpreps said

why did claremont and damien re-new the contracts we play them the same way we play you...i know why...your not tough enough

Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2007 04:44 PM

Somebody, please explain this chop block situation in full detail.
would like to hear the truth. Was there penalties invovled? Was it a good play or bad ect.

See for yourself. The "Chop Block" in question is at the 2 min. mark in the attached video.
Not only will you see the "Legal Tackle" but you will also see Kanan owning Glendora all night!
I will miss this Mayors Trophy game but CO will move on and Glendora will be remembered as the team that chose not to continue this great rivalry. I guess they will have to live through their JAA victories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhDx4KWoP90&mode=related&search=

The only thing that sucks more than losing is constantly reminding yourselves that you LOST.

The real Skrid, if your going to use my name you can at least bump me up to a double-wide.

Lets get back to what this thread really should be about. Glendora and pascey dropped the ball on this one and it has brought out some real passionate responses fred. I feel Glendora is very wrong here to drop this great traditional game. The principals and ads should step up here and do what right for the kids and continue this series. Pascey Im very dispointed in you and i sincerely hope your team lets you now in their way that they feel the same way. I know from man;y ive talked to that the kids want to play. BUt often times it's not about the kids is it? Shame.

Look at your own
I asked him, He said CO players were calling each other the N bomb. Glendora has black,asian and latino players, just like you. The race card is the lowest form of posting.

Play fair, Why don't you ask your son how many times the glendora boys dropped the N-BOMB on the CO players. This is why there is big anger towards glendora. Idiots breeding is bad if this is what you teach your kids we might not have your big house but we stick together and dont teach our kids that crap.

People are saying Charter Oaks #4 could not play againts Damien because he got hurt when he dived at someones knees. Well, What do you think now?

Respect Charter Oak? Hahahaha. You need to earn respect. No respect for people who play unfair. Glendora would beat you 3 out of 4 times. You tied damien and Glendora sliced them up!

Breaking News
Your respect means nothing to us. Why would We care about a lame poster like you? CO High, CO Football, CO Kids, all good. CO Parents who post junk like you, make us laugh. The rest of the valley laughs at you too. PLEASE RESPECT ME!! For what?

Its preseason games like glend charter oak that get both programs ready for their respective playoffs. The intensity the level competition both are playoff atmosphere. So, I would agree with the previous post that its a shame and wrong from glendoras part. I feel one should look at coach p and his history in the playoffs. To me if your goal is to build the very best program possible, try to win a cif, and create lasting memories for kids then playing this game was a win win for everybody. To cancel the game or not renew it when the other coach has stated they want to play and are ready to play is just an injustice to the glendora kids, parents, program, and institution. I dont know either coach personally but I would say that their positions on this decision mimick exactly what Ive heard about each guy. One's a winner and a motivator and the other maybe equally as good a coach but lacking a character or a winners quality. I just cant think of any possible scenerio where canceling is right for either sad. You;ll have to live with this one pasquerealla. Very poor!

its absolutly amazing how some tartan hater and a so called tartan supporter can bad talk a coach and program without even having all the facts. You both should be ashamed of yourselfs. Coach P does not teach his kids or practice tackling techniques which chop the legs out of a runner sprinting full force on a punt return. This is BS. If Farrar teachs this or approves such techniques, he should be ashamed. MTC, maybe it should have been your kid who was hit. My son, who is a tartan starter, says no team plays as dirty as CO. You can say what you want, mr. Tough guys, but you don't have to play these guys. Its not about being scared, its about playing fair. Now shut up you idiots and move on!

Amat will be playing st. francis and chaminade weeks 6 and seven as part of the mission league agreement. the contarcts with hart, RC, and carson are expiring so los altos can step in to fill the void.

Umm, can we get back to the games you want to see most next season.
Or, find another way to make your point without getting so personal. It's not that hard, and you'll get your message across just as easily.

Glendora why do you refuse to respect charter oak??

its been 1 of 2 stories from you people...first it was how much better you are and how your gonna beat us by 50 and now its how dirty and cheap we are

you tartans are finger pointing crybaby cowards always lookin for some excuse or an angle to make yourself look better

your bitter because the average income dark skinned kid with his jersey untucked beat you this year

lets go CO !!

if one tartan has guts in here hit me up and say HEY BREAKING NEWS YOUR RIGHT YOU GUYS GOT US FAIR AND SQUARE THIS YEAR trust me youll get more respect

Sorry Fred, I was momentarily worked up.

dranch beats amat if they play.

The kids from both programs are getting dumped on here. Its a shame.

Hey Pascy maybe this is an example of why youve never won the big one!

Hey Coach P, try explaining this one to your kids. Im sure they'll understand. LOL LOL LOL This is a perfect example that will turn kids off a coach just like that. Its a distraction to boot and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if Glendora went 2-2 the rest of the way out, then one and done in the playoffs. You can book this post! Maybe examples such as this is why you've never one the big ring like the previous post stated. Something for you and your parents and kids to think about. Meanwhile the Ganos and Ferrars of CIF just keep motivating and winning because their kids would run through a wall for them. I dont think they would for you.

Say what you want, but keep the language clean. I've had to dump a few comments.

This is why we should be so upset because last year absolutely the credit goes to Glendora and to the victor comes the spoils and you deserve to be proud of your success and should post your highlights but this year you have to give credit where credit is due and Charter Oak beat Glendora regardless just listen to the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat! This is what rivalries are about and to do this to the communities and the families is a tragedy. What EDUCATION and life lessons are we teaching our young men right now with these decisions? Say it ain't so Joe! Just a sad, sad day for high school football and fans!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9JYjxiILw

My times have changed. In 96-97 Glendora had beat charter oak 3 years in a row and Coach Farrar canceled the contract. Because he did not care for his team being beat down in the preseason by the cross town rivals. Glendora had to pick up El Dorado because CO wouldn't play us the next year. If anyone doesn't believe me look at the archives. The whole debate on CO playing dirty goes back to the Karno days. A lot of words were exchanged, but we kept playing. Personally I wish the contract had been continued because it is a good game and Glendora usually beats the crap out of CO at all levels Fresh, JV ,and Varsity.

Sorry some GHS fans, that anger was directed mostly to one idiot.

anonymous, you call me a troublemaker and an idiot for stating facts and you can only speculate.

You can attack anything you want about CO but how dare you attack the character of coach Farrar and his staff. They don't or ever have taught their kids to play dirty. It's becoming more and more obvious why Glendora has such a bad rap. PARENTS!

I didn't want into this with you but I'm just sick of your elitist, sour grape, sore losing crappy parents. By the way, your coach matches your sub-par community personality.

CO, burn the trophy!

Sorry CO and too bad GHS but thanks for some great finishes like this one......
Glendora you should be ashamed of yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IimS3jk8xFk

Another bone head move from the "Bagpiper" athletic administration!

So now what? bet you anything we end up traveling to some far away place.

Let's start playing the locals again and put Arcadia, Charter Oak, Bishop Amat. Covina back on our schedule.

Coach Lou I'd ask "Pasqy" why, but as you can see you'll never get a straight answer.

I've seen "Pasqy" do a lot of dumb stuff, but this is one of the biggest bone head moves in awhile.

Just Pathetic!

Out!

Mike the Clone

JFR

YOUUUUUUUUUUU ARE A TROUBLE MAKER AND A BIG TIME TARTAN HATER. SHUTUP ALREADY! Coach P has more class then most coaches. Trust me, Glendora is not afraid of CO in the least. You would be an idiot to think otherwise. I was not impressed with the tactics of CO in the games against Glendora for the last two years. Cheap hits and tackles go on throughout the night. Who cares why Coach P decided not to renew the contract. Hell, Glendora has had contracts expire without renewal many times, mostly because the Tartans were to good...(i.e. Duarte and Arcadia). There was a lapse between contracts with glendora/CO for several years before, due to routy fans (both sides) and questionable tactics on the field. move on! Both teams will schedule competitive opponents to replace each other next year.

A Bunch Of ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I&mode=related&search=

TM

Tommy T,
If you new the FACTS given to CO'S AD and coach, we wouldn't be having this discussion! It has nothing to do with the legal yet unfortunate play that you are referring to. It has everything to to with the actions of a FEW of your own kids after the game that was caught on film.

JFR,

Rationally speaking...:) Coach P is obviously being classy and not giving all the details as to why the game was not continued. If it is negative on their program, why would you go into all that? There was talk of some dirty tactics/style of play that in some ways may be legal but is just not what some believe should be taught or used because it increases the liklyhood of injury. Yes, the "tackle" on the kickoff was legal...but diving at the knees from the side? Is that really necessary? I'm not saying it was intentional, but there can be a pattern with some teams. Personally I can't say I'm an expert on this (never played in the trenches), but I trust that Pasqy and the staff have the boy's best in mind. I don't necessarily fault CO for "doin whatever it takes to win" within what's allowed because this is an emotional matchup and, as Coach Farrar admited they are the smaller team. At any rate, I am sad that the game won't take place for several reasons, because there's good people there and we are a neighboring community. But anyone who says the Tartans are "afraid to play" are idiots. Any of you who think we will schedule some softy, think again. Come play our schedule before you complain (exeptions to Amat & DR). Anybody notice Etiwanda beating Los Osos last week? Yes, Los Osos who was highly ranked, beat Amat etc...and our game wasn't even close. It'll be interesting to see how they do against Upland later (the team that beat CO 14-0?). Good luck to CO the rest of the way and health to all. Maybe we'll get a crack at getting the Mayor's trophy back in a couple of years.

My apologies on the last post, wrong thread...

Joe Colt

Big Daddy,

I agree, Arrant and Vess need to looked at when this list is compiled...

Joe Colt

Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2007 05:15 PM,

Joe Amat is a serious fan of football and has his opinions, actually I think he is a realist and thats rare on here but needed...

Piss off and learn something from him...

Joe Colt

Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2007 05:15 PM,

Joe Amat is a serious fan of football and has his opinions, actually I think he is a realist and thats rare on here but needed...

Piss off and learn something from him...

Joe Colt

charter choak that is hilarious

something did happen glendora wised up and said why do we need to play charter choak. last i checked charter choak is in covina not glendora and their staff has no class you feel bad because the kids are the ones that suffer under the farttar regime. charter choke has great kids its just too bad the staff doesn't teach them anything. charter choak on this

Joe Amat to coach Los Altos after Gano leaves...He seems to know it all and he would schedule Verti's Lancers since he thinks Verti cannot coach. Joe Amat UCLA will also have a opening next year as well......Apply show some leadership qualities. Thats right you cannot sit on a lazy boy on the sidelines and critique you actuly have to coach dumbass

It was on a kickoff return and there was no flag thrown on the tackle. Both kids have spoken on the phone since and have formed a friendship.

I would at this point love to hear a reply by a RATIONAL glendora fan. If coach Farrar gave the same comments as your coach, would you not be blasting his ASS off right now!

Shoot Fred. Let's substitute Duarte for Hart and you'll have most of your top ten done for you thru comparitive scores!

That would be a fun schedule for the valley and provide for some great Friday Nights.

Start working those phones

Somebody, please explain this chop block situation in full detail.

would like to hear the truth. Was there penalties invovled? Was it a good play or bad ect.

Its pretty simple why this contract was ended

Charter Oak=Has Balls
Glendora= No Balls

If Robledo was making Amat's 2008 schedule.

vs. Diamond Ranch
vs. Hart
vs. Charter Oak
vs. West Covina
vs. St. Paul
vs. Damien
vs. Los Altos
vs. Crespi
vs. Notre Dame
vs. Loyola

You have to admit, we'd have a lot to discuss if this was the lineup.

ok Glendora,, good answer ,, yeah go schedule northview, or ganesha,,

sounds like the OSU sheduling every MAC team to pad the schedule,

Would love to see

West Covina AMAT.

You Conq fans really believe he could leave after this year?

anomymous,
I never new that a tackle was considered a chop block "TYPE". Thanks for following up on this fred. I only wish that anonymous had enough man in him to go under his blog handle. I am now going to sit back and listen to all GHS make excuses like anonymous, coach farrar didn't hide anything but coach P. sure wasn't talking. Preseason only makes you better for when it counts glendora, I thought you were bright enough to know this game would help the bottom line. CHAMPIONSHIPS

fred,
dont be surprised if gano leaves very soon, hes a dad first- then a coach, and dont forget he is the softball coach now in where his daughter will be a strong player on varsity as a freshman,its very important to him to be there for his daughter.

I don't see Gano leaving. I had the chance to to chat with him about a lot of things during a practice earlier this year, and I didn't sense that at all. We talked about the possibility of him being at other places and what it would take to leave, and lets just say he's "well taken care of" where he's at now.

this is an interesting topic. GANO would NEVER EVER schedule AMAT. and to be honest i really dont blame him, there is nothing left after this year and besides he would stop gettin all there guys.....in my opinion Gano might just call it quits after this season.....FRED who would the TOP Candidates befor this JOB?..if it were to open up?

Fred,

People can speculate all they want about this. Many teams end contracts for many reasons. Neither team overpowers the other, so that can't be used as a reason. No one is running scared. They both have victories against one another.

I can only say that a number of things happened last game including a Glendora player getting a season long injury from a questionable "chop type block". People can argue about this till they are blue in the face. I thought the game was always a great match between to big SGV powers.

Oh wow, time for Los Altos to give Bishop Amat a phone call. That game is long overdue. I talked to Verti last week, and he's considering talking to more area teams about possible games.

"Noteworthy: As a result, Farrar went on to say that he tried to schedule Northview next year, but he heard the Vikings are already signed to play Los Altos in week one."

True. All of LA's pre-season contracts expired this year without renewing. Weeks 2-5 are still open, AFAIK.