Let's rank 'em all: Tribune Super List

Tribune rankings from top to bottom
1. Charter Oak (4-1-1)
2. Diamond Ranch (4-2)
3. South Hills (4-2)
4. Los Altos (4-2)
5. San Dimas (6-0)
6. Glendora (4-2)
7. Bishop Amat (2-4)
8. Duarte (5-1)
9. Northview (4-2)
10. Damien (2-3-1)
11. Rosemead (4-2)
12. Arroyo (4-2)
13. Baldwin Park (4-2)
14. Wilson (3-3)
15. West Covina (3-3)
16. Diamond Bar (2-4)
17. Bonita (2-4)
18. Covina (2-3)
19. South El Monte (2-4)
20. El Monte (3-3)
21. Mountain View (3-2)
22. La Puente (3-3)
23. Nogales (2-4)
24. Rowland (1-5)
25. Workman (2-4)
26. Sierra Vista (2-5)
27. Walnut (1-5)
28 Gladstone (2-5)
29. Azusa (2-4)
30. Western Christian (2-4)
31. Bassett (0-6)
For a complete list of the CIF-SS polls, click thread
CIF-SS TOP 10 POLLS
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Central Division
1. Rancho Verde; 2. Chaffey; 3. Moreno Valley; 4. Arcadia; 5. Colony; 6. Paloma Valley; 7. Colton; 8. Arroyo Valley; 9. Muir; 10. Vista del Lago.
Eastern Division
1. Serrano; 2. J.W. North; 3. M.L. King; 4. Hesperia; 5. La Quinta; 6. Rim of the World; 7. Bloomington; 8. Apple Valley; 9. Palm Desert; 10. Silverado.
East Valley Division
1. Citrus Hill; 2. Big Bear; 3. San Jacinto; 4. Notre Dame/Riverside; 5. Chadwick; 6. Twentynine Palms; 7. Ontario Christian; 8. Desert; 9. Frazier Mountain; 10. Flintridge Prep.
Inland Division
1. Cor. Centennial; 2. Vista Murrieta; 3. Redlands East Valley; 4. Norco; 5. A.B. Miller; 6. Temescal Canyon; 7. Chaparral 8. Los Osos; 9. Corona Santiago; 10. Murrieta Valley.
Mid-Valley Division
1. Duarte; 2. Paraclete; 3. Bishop Diego; 4. Santa Clara; 5. Blair; 6. Cantwell-Sacred Heart; 7. San Marino; 8. Fillmore; 9. Malibu; 10. L.A. Baptist.
Northeast Division
1. St. Margaret’s; 2. Saddleback; 3. Brentwood; 4. Bell-Jeff; 5. Maranatha; 6. Whittier Christian; 7. Calvary Murrieta; 8. Hamilton; 9. Sage Hill; 10. Boron.
Northern Division
1. Hart; 2. Newbury Park; 3. St. Bonaventure; 4. Saugus; 5. Atascadero; 6. Valencia; 7. Moorpark; 8. Canyon Country Canyon; 9. San Luis Obispo; 10. Paso Robles.
Northwest Division
1. Morro Bay; 2. Oaks Christian; 3. St. Joseph/Santa Maria; 4. Oak Park; 5. San Dimas; 6. Serral; 7. Templeton; 8. Harvard-Westlake; 9. South Torrance; 10. Bosco Tech.
Pac-5 Division
1. Mater Dei; 2. Orange Lutheran; 3. Long Beach Poly; 4. Nortre Dame/Sherman Oaks; 5. Servite; 6. Los Alamitos; 7. Compton; 8. Crespi; 9. Mission Viejo; 10. Esperanza.
Southeast Division
1. La Habra; 2. California; 3. La Serna; 4. Troy; 5. Arroyo; 6. San Gabriel; 7. Ocean View; 8. Santa Fe; 9. Rosemead; 10. Schurr.
Southern Division
1. Anaheim; 2. University; 3. Placentia Valencia; 4. Western; 5. Laguna Hills; 6. Kennedy; 7. Pacifica; 8. Cypress; 9. Irvine; 10. Savanna.
Southwest Division
1. El Dorado; 2. Anaheim Canyon; 3. Charter Oak; 4. Trabuco Hills; 5. Foothill; 6. El Modena; 7. Diamond Ranch; 8. South Hills; 9. Los Altos; 10. Norwalk.
Western Division
1. Culver City; 2. Dominguez; 3. West Torrance; 4. Chaminade; 5. Palmdale; 6. Leuzinger; 7. Santa Monica; 8. St. Paul; 9. Alemany; 10. Mira Costa.
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ex falcon,
workman is young right now, give them another year or two and they'll be back up. it doesn't matter how many d-1 players verbum dei had, you guys also had two. thomas and harris. you make too many excuses. you guys would finish last in any other league. montview league isn't all that competitive. when you beat a team in the top ten, i'll bow my head and give you all the props in the world.
who thinks west co is going to win tonight hmmm i think that thay are going to win tonight at the game if you think that omment back k then lets go west co
look this is what i think about west co i think thay can be very good as a team but if thay dont play as a team thay are not good i like west co i like there player to thay are good people but as a team thay can kick asss that is all i have to say k
look this is what i think about west co i think thay can be very good as a team but if thay dont play as a team thay are not good i like west co i like there player to thay are good people but as a team thay can kick asss that is all i have to say k
look this is what i think about west co i think thay can be very good as a team but if thay dont play as a team thay are not good i like west co i like there player to thay are good people but as a team thay can kick asss that is all i have to say k
look this is what i think about west co i think thay can be very good as a team but if thay dont play as a team thay are not good i like west co i like there player to thay are good people but as a team thay can kick asss that is all i have to say k
look this is what i think about west co i think thay can be very good as a team but if thay dont play as a team thay are not good i like west co i like there player to thay are good people but as a team thay can kick asss that is all i have to say k
boomer,
Verbum dei was not only faster they where stronger and a lot more Physical. Pretty much they where just better then us. just like ayala earlier this year. That Verbum dei team had like 4-5 D-1 players that are in the pac-10 as we speak. Its easy to say what another person can do, When you dont have a clue about what the game your talking about. The only reason we run left to right on you guys is cus we can. Plus workmans coach are so great with there "GREAT GAMEPLAN" Why cant they even put up 3 points on those weak coaches? Like i said before keep your dumb commets to yourself.
Who decides these rankings? Whoever it is, should get fired for stupidity. No team below that number 5 spot could beat Bishop Amat. Even if Bishop Amat was 0-10 this season. They still wouldn't lose to chumps like San Dimas, Arroyo, Baldwin Park, etc., Are you kidding me, lmao. These rankings are a joke. If you know HS football then you know what I'm talking about. F this site, these blogs and F these horrific rankings!
ex falcon,
its simple, the only reason duarte is so good is because they have speed, speed kills. you would know if your a football player. last year all they did against workman was bounce to the outsides, they didn't know how to run in between tackles and play smart football. workman did. duarte was faster than all their opponents until they say verbum dei who was as faster if not faster...... and they got killed. if duarte would of had some good coaches then they would of known of a gameplan that could stop an evenly matched team. but they don't. its ok though, your from duarte so i know you probably wont understand what i'm talking about. try not to hurt yourself thinking too hard.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO SOUTH HILLS HS IS 31-06, HAHAHA. A BUNCH OF PREMADONNAS AND THEY CALL THAT GOOD FOOTBALL, PFFFF. PLEASE ENOUGH WITH THE JOKES. THE BISHOP GUY IS RIGHT. YOUR BELOW AVERAGE. SHHS DOESN'T HAVE A SHOT IN WINNING THERE DIVISION.
Hey SHHS your the idiot! I already had mentioned that I had made a mistake. Actually two comments before I mentioned it.
hay big scary man that thinks i am scared by not putting my name... well for your 411 i am a STUDENT/player at shhs i was one of those in late for them... i was joking... trying to stir up some Controversy... so please dont try to say im not so tough 4 not putting my name...mmmk thanks mr. tough guy have a nice evening
hey Anonymous. u're an idiot too. is 42-3. not a blow out? if u think u r so tough y r u anonymous?
hey, Lancer Lunatic. u're an idiot. we beat rancho 28-7.
Bishop Amat would still beat South Hills though. The coach at South Hills wouldn't even accept the invitation to play in the pre-season. Even though Bishop Amat is losing, they have a much better caliber athelete. Look at McBride of Los Altos he was a back up tailback at Bishop Amat that is truely why he left. Plus, the fact he couldn't carry the team like the past tailbacks. Dorian Wells would still be at Bishop Amat, but he was found in the restroom at the middle school next door. Those two clowns don't mention why they really left Bishop Amat or was asked to leave, haha!
Oops! My bad...maybe South Hills is as good as they say. I made a mistake they did beat Rancho Cucamonga 28-07. Dam'n that's good & they beat Los Altos which doesn't mean much. So, I take back what I had said. Dorian & the Huskies should be ranked in the no. 1 or 2 spot. It's tough to call because Diamond Ranch is legite and they have played the second toughest schedule in the valley next to Bishop Amat.
I guess no one will argue with me that s.hills is the best team out there right now im waiting 4 someone 2 argue with me about this issue but i guess everyone beleives this is true ..... GO HUSKIES!!!!
why isnt Baldwin Park in the top10 we just knocked off San Dimas
and whats with Northview at #9 ???
South Hills is below average. They're only having a successful season because of Dorian Wells. Without Dorian they lose to Los Altos & Trabuco Hills. Fullerton and Claremont have horrible football programs. Rancho Cucamonga beat South Hills 28-07. The embarrassing Bishop Amat Lancers are 2-5 this season and beat Rancho Cucamonga 23-07. South Hills is over-rated and should be ranked beneath Bishop Amat HS.
South Hills is below average. They're only having a successful season because of Dorian Wells. Without Dorian they lose to Los Altos & Trabuco Hills. Fullerton and Claremont have horrible football programs. Rancho Cucamonga beat South Hills 28-07. The embarrassing Bishop Amat Lancers are 2-5 this season and beat Rancho Cucamonga 23-07. South Hills is over-rated and should be ranked beneath Bishop Amat HS.
How Bout Those Duarte Falcons
Good Job Falcons....
OH Also Good Job BP...
Way To Come out and play when you were the underdogs......
Falcon Pride
huskie hater:
so was anyone impressed with shhs win... caues i wasnt those jerks tried to run up the score and couldnt... good job walnut
Im so sick of hearing about s.diamas& glendora&also those sorry elmonte teams...if all of you h.s football fans want to watch a real game spend a few bucks & go watch s.hills you will be shocked how good they are.. Oh hey you elmonte teams didnt us huskies drop 70 on arryo in the plyoffs last season? My top picks... s.hills#1 c.oak#2 d.ranch#3 NO ONE ELSE MATTERS UNDERSTOOD.... rack um
Ok now enough already cry babys im tierd of hearing about sdiamas glendora they both shouldnt be ranked if you ask me. S.hills c.oak and d.ranch are #1 2 &3 no one else even matters ok..... UNDERSTOOD!!! Damn when is everyone going 2 wake up? Oh & you elmonte teams shhhhh didnt s.hills drop 70 on arryo last season in the playoffs? Good luck c.oak vs d.ranch from the huskies.....
Nov 1 2007 on foxsports everyone tune in and watch the best team n the valley.. S.hills as the crush w.covina and leave no doubt whos the best in the sgv... yea i said it s.hills is the best have you seen them this year ? The huskies are awwwsome. Go huskies...... ruffffff. Big dog husky.
Come on now all u fools.... have you seen s.hills this year .? By far they are the best team in the valley. Bulldogs we are comming for you beware of the huskys unlike you bulldogs we dont only bark but we do bite & we will see you in our dog house understand..........RUFFFF.
Highlites from the Los Altos vs Diamond Ranch Game. Dranch is over rated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7rEQoSjRr0
ha ha number 6 san dimas lost their fans suck
I agree with some of the posts that although SaN Dimas is undefeated they do not belong in the top spot at all. they have played very soft teams an the lack of qulaity oppostion in their schedule is ridiculous. here's why and here's some insight into the combined records of the teams that they have dominated against.
GLADSTONE 2-5
S. EL MONTE 2-4
MONTCLAIR 0-7
ONTARIO 3-3
BONITA 2-4
POMONA 2-4
any other school with cheduling like that would more than likely be undefeated as well. San Dimas needs tougher scheduling and more quality wins. i mean, the combined total of their opponents is 11-27...thats nothing to boast about. beating up on weaker schools isnt something to be proud about because it's expected... i beleive that either Baldwin Park will get the job done and come away with a win or Northview will win in san dimas's next game. No knock on san dimas...very well coached and great comraderie on the field but you havent been tested at all..I think being in the top 5 in these rankings is actually quite generous . Well good luck for the rest of the season...
No, he is not related to me. It's just all you bloggers think you know cruth and you dont. Its easy to say something about a person you dont know just cuz you hear a few bad thing about. But until you know are even speak to him you comments mean nothing.
Watch out bulldogs, CO likes to hit below the nuts! Right CO Fan?
go WEST COVINA....
Bulldog # 66 etc..
Watch what you say you're starting to sound just like those Glendora people..We all know what happened to them..What has been the score the past 2 years? Oh and wasn't your homecomming last year and you lost...Best of luck
rgd2626, I beg to differ! - DRanch 28 - LA 24. I rest my case, St. Paul would f*ck them up in a New York second!
Ex falcon, the coach at duarte is a you or or your related to, who else would stick up for a guy who couldnt fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Ex falcon, the coach at duarte is a you or or your related to, who else would stick up for a guy who couldnt fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Ex falcon, the coach at duarte is a you or or your related to, who else would stick up for a guy who couldnt fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
boomer,
Shut up, what are you talking about. Give duarte workmans coach?? Are u insane. Keep your dumb comments to yourself. I would not take workmans waterboys let alone there coaches.
Anonymous at 4:46...
What an excellent point... Last year Oaks Christian was the big private dog on the block and they smashed all comers... it's really unfortunate for the public school kids when the privates (I guess we can call them that) go out and recruit the likes of Clauson and Tyler just for the purpose of playing football. For those parents who can not afford the $25,000 + tuition for these private schools or don't have children that can play like Clauson or Tyler, we are left on the outside looking in. I think CIF should seperate the private schools into their own form of CIF... Maybe CIF-P... when a single public school wins CIF and a single private school wins CIF-P... you have yourself the makings of a really cool high school "superbowl"... it also allows a number of pubic schools an opportunity to play a little deeper into the calendar year and keeps the likes of Mater Dei, Servite, or Oaks Christian from flexing their "recruitment developed" muscles and steping all over those players who attend their neighborhood high school because... well that's what high schoolers do! Great post...
This seems like a place that I could get a reasonable response to my question.
Does anyone else feel that private schools have no business playing against the public schools? Leagues, and Playoffs. But, most specifically, in the Bowl games? It seems to me that although there is some recruitment in public schools (oops did I say that?) Private schools, BA, MD, OL, OC, Loyola, Servite, Damien, and on, and on, thrive due to the recruitement. It seems to me that it is not even close to being a level playing field. Why should Los Altos, CO, SH, etc, have to get through a team like Mater Dei to get to the bowl? It makes zero sense to me.
San Dimas could certainly finish the season No. 1 if they take care of business in the playoffs. What happens if they knock off Oaks Christian in a quarter or semifinal? If they go 14-0 and win it all and nobody else wins a championship, they most certainly will finish the season the top-ranked team.
So, Here's the bottom line... No matter how many games SD wins, they just can't be ranked number 1... no matter what they accomplish, they'll never be good enough to be #1... Only the 'big boys' can be #1... Herein lies the entire problem with this silly blog... Only the 'big boys' can win Championships... It's really too bad... to minimize the hard work of some very fine players by saying "you can't win enough"... it's clear to me... and trust me this will be my last post... this is not a ranking of good football teams... it's a popularity contest hosted by the SGV Tribune under the guise of 'ranking' prep football teams. I don't buy it... it's bunk! San Dimas will go undefeated and mark my words, they will not be given a number one spot. In fact, they could go undefeated for the next several years (which they just might) and they won't be ranked #1... They're not the 'big boys'... How sad!
Um Anonymous
LA got to the semi-final game in the Southwest Div. and lost to eventual champ El Dorado 14-7, gave them a great, hard fought game...
Boomer
Workman has no more talent over there. That good senior class already graduated in 07. I guess your going to have 2 wait another 4 years for a another "dream" season.
Boomer
Workman has no more talent over there. That good senior class already graduated in 07. I guess your going to have 2 wait another 4 years for a another "dream" season.
OH YEAH Coyote62 . USC should just STOP playing ALL their games & wait until next year , RHS should just do the same . REAL SMART .H8R.
TM
the bulldog are going to kill on Charter Oak on firday foo just go see the game man go bulldogzzzzzzzz the score is going to be 58 to 7 going to the bulldogzzz
BIG BAD BULLDOGZZZZZ RUF RUF RUF
the bulldog are going to kill on Charter Oak on firday foo just go see the game man go bulldogzzzzzzzz the score is going to be 58 to 7 going to the bulldogzzz
BIG BAD BULLDOGZZZZZ RUF RUF RUF
REPONCE TO FREDJ/OCT-17---HEY FRED HAVE YOU CHECKED USC LATEST RANK, HAHA. THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOSE TO A UNDER DOG, LIKE YOU LOSE RATINGS, THATS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO ROSEMEAD. TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL..... I SAY..GOOD LUCK MVL.
With the exception of CO and Covina, how many teams got past 1 or 2 games in playoffs last year?
Strength of schdeule vs weaker schedule can be debated FOREVER.
Take what you get and JUST PLAY HARD
Cal Preps rankings
Who cares
Joe Amat
Good points. I guess it's whatever works and generates the Wins.
so much has changed over the past year. i don't understand how a 3-3 team like La Puente makes it to the top ten of the mid valley division. where last year the mid valley division was loaded with lots of talent. La Puente has not beaten a team with a winning record yet. then theres Duarte, i'm not saying their not good, actually their great. but they could be better, give them real coaches and not an classless idiot like crutchfield. i'd say if you give the Duarte team to the coaching staff over at Workman, De Lilio would make them without a doubt the top team in the valley with a perfect 14-0 season. De Lilio is doing a great job with the Lobos, sure their 2-4, but their young.... next year will the a breakout year for them. i'd put all my money on that. In the 05-06 season, De Lilio had to take over just before hell week, everything was just piled up into his arms. so when the 06-07 season came and he had time to install his philosophy, he made a 7-3 team. taking a team from 0-9-1 to 7-3 says alot about what kind of coach he is. onto a different league(s). i was at the South Hills vs. Los Altos game. i haven't seen a team play as solid as South Hills did. Without a doubt their the #1 team in the valley. they proved that by beating last weeks number one team. If you give them Charter Oak, they'll take them down too.
Cal Preps would rearrange your top ten to:
1. Diamond Ranch
2. Glendora
3. South Hills
4. Los Altos
5. Bishop Amat
6. Charter Oak
7. San Dimas
8. Damien
9. North View
10. Duarte
ALL GREAT TAKES . I LOVE YOU MAN !!!
Concur Joe Amat,
But when you play the tough schedule not only do you go down in defeat, but you also go down with Injuries and go limping into league play, but thats part of football injuries could well as happen in easier competition. Playing a schedule PERIOD for ranking is fools gold. Preparation game to game is the key to a teams success. I would take the tough road vs the easy road anyday. All the easy road gets you is a confindence booster only to get tore up come playoffs by a good competitive team you have not seen because of playing the weak. Playing the tough gets you losses but if those tough teams are far superior then your league then you are better off in league and in playoffs you are used to the tough so you are better equipt in two functions of your season. Dranch proved this last year. Look at Walnut, mostly sophmore team they played some tough non league games for their size and ability and they start out league 1-0. Which brings us to Amat playing o-luth, carson, hart, los osos, st. paul and even Rancho C. is a tough schedule but it is not like they play in D6 competition, it does not drop off and their league is much of the same strong Competition. Good for them because they are used to the tough road and anything can happen when two good teams go at it. It would have been fools gold if Amat played Rowland WC, Northview, San Dimas and Walnut , then go play Crespi ND and Loyola.
REWARD FOR PLAYING WHO :
EXCELLENT TAKE !!!
teams are rewarded for playng nobody and they have a better record. boise state wasn't really anybody's favorite cinderella team until they beat oklahoma. how sad is it that teams that play a cream puff schedule are rewarded for winning against teams that prove nothing in the playoffs. yet. the teams that are actually stepping up and taking on real people are suffering because they play the best teams in the state. the SGV needs to step it up in terms of overall team play. It looks as if orange county teams have our number. maybe we as the SGV should challenge them support one another and beat the best teams, not just teams with a great record against teams that are 0-5.
larry mora
you have no idea what your talking about.
TYPICAL ANONYMOUS ... SOME DO CARE . If not there would be NO RHS talk . Although there is NOT ALOT there is SOME . HAVE A NICE DAY .
TM
Anonymous at October 18, 2007 09:09 AM
You're right the music was the worst part.
Who gives a F about Rosemead HS football, crap they lost to SEM. They are overated and like every year they are a One and out team in the playoffs...TM you talk sh-t
YOUR WECLOME
NEXT TIME YOU NEED A GENIUS, JUST LOOK ME UP
HAVE ALOT MORE FACTS WHERE THEY CAME FROM
HAVE TO GO NOW, THE GUARDS ARE CALLING LOL
Thanks GENIUS . I do not know how some coaches have ever WON ANYTHING without your FACTS on Trick Plays .
Obviously, rankings are a direct result of your schedule. The basic scheduling choices are really two-fold: First, you can create a difficult schedule to test yourself against the best and become more "battle tested" for the rigors of league play or the challenges of the playoffs. Secondly, a somewhat easier schedule can be constructed to allow the team to obtain a few more victories, gain a higher ranking and develop a little bit of confidence. Both methods have their advantages, but also come with some pitfalls.
Playing a tougher schedule may result in more losses than normal, but the game-to-game combat against challenging competition teaches players what they need to do to get better. Maintaining a positive attitude is crucial and is the toughest part, especially for inexperienced coaches or those on the hot seat (or both). Understand that the added losses will, no doubt, result in a lower ranking in the standings or polls. If this method of scheduling is chosen, you can`t complain about the rankings because the intended result is: it just doesn`t matter who the team plays in league or the playoffs, as they have already seen the type of play that is required to advance. So they may start lower and have a more difficult road to follow - but they are ready for it.
On the other hand, a slightly less challenging schedule can have its advantages as well. A team can experience a certain level of success in being able to execute their game plan, and wins have a tendency to aid in the developing of confidence.
Confidence can take a player, and a team, a long way. They may expect to succed and win - so they do. A very good record will undoubtedly improve a teams "ranking" and may get them an easier road in the playoffs. But beware - that schedule must still provide a little challenge so that the team doesn't pick up bad habits, or get overconfident. A schedule that is too simple may not provide the types of obstacles needed to prepare to defeat quality opponents. Sometimes those wins are "fools gold". This may result in an earlier than expected departure from the playoffs, and a disappointing end to the season.
Which statement is true? To be the best you have to beat the best - or - To beat the best you have to think that you are the best. Maybe a little balance of both!
No, it's facts that trick plays or last second plays are part of the coaching game and result in the WINS.........
LATES ??? What is this ...PRISON ?
For all the people whining about trick or last minute plays...
Chew on this list:
Auburn/Florida
UGA/Alabama
SO FL/Auburn
LSU/UK
Stanford/USC .49 seconds left
APP/Mich .05 seconds left
Result: Great WINS with trick or final second play
Enough Said
Lates
Eagle 20,
Worry about yourself, why is it that SEM worries so much about Arroyo ? You always want to compare everything with Arroyo, news flash (YOUR NOT ARROYO). And good luck with Tommy being 5'11" tall, he is a great player and fast as can be. But not even close to 5'11" (5'7" at best). Good luck to guys.
HS Football IS FUN . But BOTTOM LINE IS RANKINGS MEAN NOTHING . Yes I LOVE BLOGS /THREADS . If I was still in HS the Rankings WOULD MEAN SOMETHING TOO . It is NICE to see your team ranked .But I also remembered to TCB ON THE FIELD & THE CLASSROOM ! There was this saying our coach would say , "IF PLAYING FOOTBALL WAS EASY ...EVERYONE WOULD PLAY " Facts are that it is NOT EASY !!! That is why you see kids riding bikes & walking around town , or @ home playing Video Games .There was a sign in our team room @ RHS that read " BE A MAN OR GET THE F OUT "!!! to this day a few of my friends joke about that , it was a quote from an EX RHS Alum who played in the NFL . Some OLD Schoolers might remember him , Dean Miraldi .
TM
TM
Hey, in reality, blogs are truly "worthless" but they are fun, and rankings are fun, and they stimulate conversation, which is what blogs themselves are all about.
It is obvious that HS football is of interest to a good number of people, you and I among them. This leads to the age old debates as to superiority and rankings fuel those discussions.
High school football should be fun, despite what Coach Boone thinks!
ONCE AGAIN . We should ALL KNOW by now RANKINGS ARE WORTHLESS ! All that matters is what I said in an Earlier post , Hopefully what you do from weeks 6-10 get you into week 11. Then the FUN really begins .It's not Quantum Physics ...
See you all in week 11. Bragging rights AFTER week 14. Best of luck to ALL IN THE SGV .Keep your HEADS UP .
FIGHT ON
TM
Nor are they ranked in the southeast division.
eagle20...no disrespect but the South is 2 and 4 thats why they are not ranked any higher.
I dont know what all this cheap hype is about, but Diamond Ranch is NO.1 hands down!!!!!Plus that kid Thomas Clarkson is a Beast at WR&FS he's the best at Wr/FS in the Inland Impire hands down!!!!! Also Diamond Ranch had the toughest preseason Schedule with Chino Hills, Edison & Oaks Christian & gave them all a run for their money & had several injuries against Oak Christian. But actions speak louder than words Diamond Ranch goes undefeated in League?????
CIF-SS TOP 10 POLLS
FOOTBALL
Inland Division
1. Cor. Centennial; 2. Vista Murrieta; 3. Redlands East Valley; 4. Norco; 5. A.B. Miller; 6. Temescal Canyon; 7. Chaparral 8. Los Osos; 9. Corona Santiago; 10. Murrieta Valley.
Northwest Division
1. Morro Bay; 2. Oaks Christian; 3. St. Joseph/Santa Maria; 4. Oak Park; 5. San Dimas; 6. Serral; 7. Templeton; 8. Harvard-Westlake; 9. South Torrance; 10. Bosco Tech.
Just read this, shouldn’t people who express their displeasure about being ranked in the Tribune top ten below a lower division school be more concerned that their football program isn’t even ranked in the most important poll of all?
Especially if they are planning on playing and advancing during the post season? Hummmmmm
WOW, I can’t believe how many of you people get so caught up in this fictitious Tribune top ten ranking.
Is being ranked number #1 or #4 or higher than a lower division school going to help you win your game Friday night?
Is it safe to say that even though you may lose on Friday it’s ok because “The Tribune has us ranked number so an so?”
Unless you are a coach or football player who is actively involved in what takes place on Friday nights, please chill out with all your whining about why Glendora is not ranked higher than San Dimas, WHO CARES?
Teams play who they play, upper division, lower division so what. All that matters is what happens between weeks 11 thru 14. Champions don’t make or look for excuses, they except whatever challenge they are up against and get it done.
As an avid fan of high school football keep this blog for what it was originally intended for and stop attacking the integrity of innocent high school players or their programs.
I know that there will be some knuckleheads out there that will come back with sort of twisted logic to try and slander, smear, ridicule what I have written and all I have to say to you is, GO FOR IT!!!! Let the juvenile behavior begin or should I say, “continue”
Hey Fred, the West side must really be looking good, huh? Scott’s doing a great job!!!!!
In the words of the Clone…I’m Out!!!
I have a question?
So if the SGV tribune player of the year is usually based on how the player and his team do in the playoffs? Then...lets say duarte or san dimas win it all (one or the other). Does that mean chris harris or nico are going to be player of the year?. The so called small schools? If LA or Dranch also go far but don't win it all. I was just wondering seeing that mostly everyone doesn't really care for the lower or small schools. Or not your average "powers." How would it work fred?
These rankings are inaccurate, at best. Some teams belong on top, some don't. Simply stated, if you beat at team head to head you should be ranked over them. I am obviously a South EL Monte High School fan. No disrespect to other teams.
However, we beat Rosemead and they are still ranked over us. What the hell! Seriously. Jose Garay may not have the numbers to prove it, but he is one of the best QB's around, period. The receiving core of Manny Acosto (6'3" -200 lbs), Juan Perez (6'1"-220 lbs), and Tommy Cogburn (5'11" - 190 lbs) is one of the best around as well, if not the best (as a unit). Tommy will flat out burn you if you do not respect his speed (legit 4.4).
Dare I say it again...yet Arroyo...yes...Arroyo is ranked over South. In case you missed it, they barely escaped with a win against El Monte.
I guess the playoffs will put an end to these discussions because only until then will all the standings be finalized.
Good luck to all the teams out there. I pray that your athletes remain healthy.
eagle20
Big Dog is one of those idiots who places rank based on the won loss records - Wait, that's the Tribune's ranking system. Oops, my bad!
Los Altos v. St. Paul? St. Paul will kill them. Bishop Amat invites Los Altos to play every year at the coach's scheduling meetings, guess who is NOT going to meet again next year? lol!
I hear Los Altos is going to schedule San Dimas next season.
THIS WEEK DIAMOND RANCH HAS A GOOD OPPENENT LOS ALTOS..... ITS GOING TO BE A BATTLE TRYING TO STOP THERE RUNNING GAME ESPECIALLY WITH A KEY PLAYER LIKE THOMAS CLARKSON DONE WITH A KNEE INJURY.....HE WAS A KEY PLAYER ON BOTHSIDES OF THE BALL THEY WILL MISS HIM ALOT THIS WEEK.....DIAMOND RANCH WILL GO UNDEFEATED NO DOUBT IN MY MIND...
What you think fred someone told me about it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AvHUQjGDOMg
looks good what do you say fred?
this has been goin through the grapevine looks good what do you think fred
Hey Puppy Chow:
Why don't u guys play somebody first !!!! Then maybe we'll let you run in the yard with the BIG DOGS !!!!
bigdogshit
just wonderin
AND NOW YOU ARE BROKERING DEALS? CAN WE HAVE THE SAME RULES FOR EVERY TEAM PLAYING THIS WEEK?
How in the hell is amat #7 can you please explain and also how come san dimas is not #1 there the only team 6-0 they deserve it,amat should be in top 20.Quit kissing ass and glendora fans shut the hell up your team is not for real all you do is talk a bunch of crap.
how bout all the tartans 'honks' and all the tartan 'haters' shut the hell up and let the game speak friday.no excuses from either side after the game.
glendora wins, they get all the props and you 'honks' can continue this talk...
glendora loses, no excuses we lost fair and square just like co and not like el do because they just straight up owned us, no contest...
so yeah, sound fair?
f**k all tartan fans.... quit talking s**t... i cant wait till you guys get the s**t kicked out of you on Friday
anonymous@ 5:23... Just for you, i read n-view fan blog again.. still nothing wrong... still dont see what would be so hurtful to you... SORRY ABOUT THAT!!!!!!! GO BRAVES/HAVE A GOOD GAME THIS FRIDAY
Anonymous at October 17, 2007 05:18 PM
Guess you need reading lessons!
getreal19783 at October 17, 2007 04:20 PM
Poor Bonita fan...
anmos @ 3:39... quit acting dumb. you act like n-view only won those 2 games.. they won the first 2 games, than lost 2 and now they are getting it together, so now they have 2 more wins. Northview fan didn't say anything wrong.
GOOD LUCK N-VIEW AND GO BRAVES
Does not matter who St. Paul recruits, Amat has their number and breaks their heart every year lately. I hear their QB may be out for the season. In all fairness to him he did impress me as a QB for a sophmore. He is going to be great as a senior maybe the Wins over Amat will come then.
WHAT a cop out Coach P
"From our standpoint, there was a difference in philosophy. I'd rather not get into all the details, but it's an emotional game for our kids, and I didn't like the way it was set up."
I dont doubt that some of the valley teams want to play St Paul, its not really for the reasons you may think.
Actually if you sell tickets for 10 a piece and you get on average 4 thou at a game and at least two games a year with about 7 thou, well you do the math, its a great night for the school.
And actually I think that both South Hills and Diamond ranch have already tried to set up a game with St Paul for next season, I think all three schools are trying to show why you should stay home and not transfer to St Paul next season. Someone is getting kids into that school I really cant see why or how though.
Hey TM:
Los Altos vs St Paul, in football or recruiting ???
I agree san dimas has always had a easy schedule. They arent so good. Lets see them play an Orange county team or South Hills, or Chino Hills.
So sad of Bonita, never been so low. Last year was the last of the excellent players, sure miss
HOOPER, Aguayo and the defense line
Anony @ 3:31,
Yes, Chino Hills was preseason #8 or maybe #7 I think. They didn't look too great against DR but have played a bit better since. I think they should be about #10 right now (I think they are #11). I DID say TOP FIVE however. There can be a real drop off in some of these divisions and DII is one with one of the best in State Corona Cent. and 3 or 4 other VERY good teams. D VI looks like it's El Do and then a notch down to a few others including local powers. Obiously you can't take just one game and judge a team completely, but 6 games in we are starting to get a good read on where teams stack up, looking at schedule strength, head to heads and margins of victory.
Who's better? or is it plaid lad
I know I was bashing as much as anyone last night but guess what, GAME OVER. In twenty years at GHS reunion they are going to spend 3 seconds over a beer about this loss and 4 hours on their victories, especially the ass kicking they gave damien and who knows who else this year. CO & GHS, let's end this now and go our separate ways. Good luck to both because league is here and excuses no longer count.
USC lost to Stanford by a point and USC is a better team overall just not to Stanford for the 2007 year. Charter Oak is better than Glendora for 2007. Maybe for the 2008 season Glendora can pay the favor back. Wait if I heard right Glendora is scared play CO now.
South el monte should be ahead of rosemead.
Who's better? at October 17, 2007 03:39 PM
That was classic.
I guess the Tartans are Bigger, faster, strogner! LOL, LOL
Cut, bait and run from future comp. That's what Glendora's about.. Coach Pas or Coach P----.
Northview FAN! at October 17, 2007 01:55 PM
Here comes the mouth warmers... Just like last year, they were going to beat the colts and win league.
Finished second to cellar with their mouths pretty quite.
Where were you two weeks ago, didnt here much talk, now win some games and you're warming up the mouths again.
Like a Colt fan said biggest talkers in Football and BB.
Anonymous at October 17, 2007 01:09 PM
SAYS:
"I thought Charter Oak already played Glendora and won. So why are people still crying about who has a better team. It is clear that in 2007 Charter Oak is better than Glendora plain and simple. They won. Now change the record Im tired of reading about the same old thing. Well maybe the people in Glendora just can't accept the fact that they lost to middle class kids. It's ok Glendora the pain will stop and you can stop crying and move on. Lets talk about the future because there is not much you can do about the past. CO won you lost and now let that be the end of it. Thank you."
How can you possibly construe that 07 CO is a better team then 07 Glendora because of the recent "squeek by" loss? I'll give you two reasons why your so called logic here is flawed.
1)USC loss to Stanford.
2) Does that mean the 06 Tartans were better than the 06 Chargers because CO lost to the Tartans that year? I would say not. The 06 Chargers went to the finals and the 06 Tartans didn't. Clearly the 06 Chargers were a better team than the 06 Tartans.
This year, I would wager dollars to donuts that the Tartans would beat CO at least 7 out of 10 games making the Tartans the BETTER team.
Other than the squeek by lost to you by the Tartans, what other support evidence do you have to back your statement. Of course you can always look at the common opponent game with Damien. But, of course, that wouldn't work in your favor.
Well, you might say that Snowden didn't play in the Damien game. Then, I might say, well a CO fan said in an earlier post that your team is not about 1 player and 1 player won't win a game for you.
Your move.
Oh, and thank you too!
breaking news at October 17, 2007 02:34 PM
No one will really know...
interesting, i could be wrong but wasnt Chino Hills one of the top ranked teams in D2 when DR beat them.
Don,
A top ten list we're glad we're not on.
that was priceless!!!
Los Altos vs St. Paul ...WHO CARES .
WE WANT Los Altos vs Bishop Amat !!!
TM
It's obvious that a school's level of play is a factor. SD having a great year AT YOUR LEVEL. CO, DR, LA, SH are having very good years at theirs well. No reason to rank SD above them. GHS having a very good year at their level as well, no reason SD should be ahead of them either. Some criticized Tartans for loosing to D IV schools...does that make D IV better? No way. They lost to the current #1 & #3 in that division. Put the Miramonte up against any of the top 5 in DII and they'd get blasted. Now BA is a different story. They are having a down year at their level, so their ranking should suffer some even though they might beat most teams in front of them. See how it works? No knock on the "little" guys, but you guys would be crying if Western Christian was undefeated and moved ahead of you when you lost one game. It's just reality. Boise States, Hawaii, and BYU's of the world have to step up and play the big boys now and then if they want to be ranked with them.
Los Altos is looking to play St. Paul next year.
san dimas the 6 teams you played have a combined record of 11-26
the best team you have played so far is 2-4 bonita
why would we have you represent the valley as the # 1 team?? i have 8 of the top 10 teams beating you northview is the only team i dont i see beating you and there the second best team in your weak leauge...
charter oak has given up 8 less points aginst a way tougher schedule you should be excited that people are even mentioning you in the top 10
Saints march on
Look at the Southwest rankings and tell me and the valley what teams SD could beat. Freds giving SD their 15 minutes of fame. Enjoy it, till your bubble busts. You say DR, CO, SH, and LA are losers? Wait, INCOMING!! a bottle just flew overhead. Anyway, SD is a great group. Dont compare them with SH, DR, CO, & LA. You just sound silly
To: March on Saints!
If you say loosers one more time!!!! it's "LOSER"
Loser
Posted by: March On Saints! at October 17, 2007 01:40 PM
Call San Dimas whatever you like... but you can never call them losers... because unlike CO, DR, SH, and LA... they don't loose... CO, DR, SH, and LA, on the other hand, have lost... that doesn't make them losers... or does it?
Now let’s count how many CIF trophies these 4 teams have vs. how many San Dimas has!
Saints, you are having a VERY GOOD year, but please leave the Championships to the big boys!
It's great to see Northview back on the TOP 10!
Good Luck Vikings in the coming weeks.... You played awesome last week! Way to show Covina who wears the Crown. After Ganesha.... San Dimas here we come! Try and keep your parents under control...
TM,
I was wondering how long you were going to let SELM spout before a response.
Dons' the Man...
Like so many, you down play San Dimas High School...
Here's the deal...
Losses....
Charter Oak - 1
Diamond Ranch - 2
South Hills - 2
Los Altos - 2
San Dimas - ZERO - that's none...
Call San Dimas whatever you like... but you can never call them loosers... because unlike CO, DR, SH, and LA... they don't loose... CO, DR, SH, and LA, on the other hand, have lost... that doesn't make them loosers... or does it?
Don, I believe San Dimas should be # 1 alone. As I was reading your post, a bottle of urine flew by. Weird.. Also, whenever anyone drives through San Dimas keep your windows up. Whatever you do never rate them as # 2..
Anonymous ;
WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN do you start up the SEM Bandwagon . Where were you when SEM was losing ,you sure were not here DEFENDING The Eagles . YES they beat RHS & YES they beat Alhambra , but last time I checked there was still FOUR MORE GAMES .Finish !
TM
CO has also signed on to play Rancho cuc next year.
Anonymous, based on your logic, Stanford beat USC, does that mean Stanford should be ranked ahead of the Trojans? South El Monte has four losses and Rosemead has two. When you start 0-4, you're working from the bottom up, and that takes time.
TO THE ONE THAT SAID N-VIEW SUCKS: i know your the one that SUCKS... how can you say a group of kids suck that are out there trying. if they sucked, they would have like zero wins, YOUR DUMB for even posting something like that
GOOD LUCK BP GO BRAVES
I thought Charter Oak already played Glendora and won. So why are people still crying about who has a better team. It is clear that in 2007 Charter Oak is better than Glendora plain and simple. They won. Now change the record Im tired of reading about the same old thing. Well maybe the people in Glendora just can't accept the fact that they lost to middle class kids. It's ok Glendora the pain will stop and you can stop crying and move on. Lets talk about the future because there is not much you can do about the past. CO won you lost and now let that be the end of it. Thank you.
Don at October 17, 2007 12:52 PM
Very typical of some a------, coming on the blog and putting down the smaller schools.
What a LOSER
HEY, FRED IN CASE YOU MISSED IT " SOUTH EL MONTE, JUST BEAT ROSEMEAD.....STILL RANKED,, WHAT A JOKE OH YEA WE ALSO BEAT 4-0 ALHAMBRA.JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED THAT ONE TO.. WHAT ARE YOU IN BED W/ROSEMEAD????HAHA.
Don
Yeah Don, we've already seen your list LOL
GLENDORA talks about size, but gets beat by D6 teams. Glendora talks about size, but cant run at all, Gelndora talks size, but what has it done for you lately, Glendora talks size, but crys about rankings, Glenodra talks and talks and talks
LOL, LOL
So many people have interesting ideas about how the teams ought to be ranked. The “who can beat whom” scheme always appealed to me but I can certainly see the value in other formats. Here is one based upon teams that are the neediest.
Sort of a Dr. Phil top ten.
1.San Dimas (Tie) - Nonee, nonee, nonee, told you we were #1
1. Duarte (Tie) - Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, think I'll eat some worms
2.Ganesha - Gutty little Giants need your love...while you're at it, send em a spare lineman or two
3.Bassett - Would have been #2 but they have a nicer field than Ganesha
4.Keppel - Still trying to figure out why everyone wants to book them for Homecoming
5.Walnut - Yeah, but my house has four bathrooms
6.Gladstone - Explain again how we lost to Workman
7.Workman - Yeah, but we whipped Gladstone
8.Rowland - One more time, we are in WHAT LEAGUE? With WHO?
9.Nogales - It's not easy being green
10.Sierra Vista - Anybody who loses to Glenn needs a lot of love
Coming soon: The People's Ten Best Lists
who cares if you win a game by 1 or 50
if you got beat you got beat!
so charter oak was 1 play better then glendora that night...well take it!!
i thought u were supposed to beat us by 40???
and to the guy that says san dimas has the best defense??? you havent even played a top 12 team 6 weeks into the season its pretty funny to hear people say OH WE GOT BALDWIN PARK THATS A BIG TEST FOR US THIS SEASON LOL !!!!
Anonymous @ 11:13
Are you sure you know football? Anyone who does knows 1 player doesn't make the whole team. I believe the CO defense and The "weak" O line as you Glendora fans call it played as a team, as well as the coaches..CO has enough class and I know # 4 would be the first to agree..
PS HOw many sac's did Glendora have on CO's weak O line? oh that's right NONE..
TO CLOSE TO CALL at October 17, 2007 12:34 PM
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses, AND NOW CUT AND RUN!
The only one loooking silly was GLENDORA
KEEP CRYING LIKE A LITTLE B----
San Dimas should be # 1
1)Coach Z attended Glendora High
2) Barbone and some others played Glendora Jr. All-American
3)Undefeated record
4)Best defense (pound for pound)
What else do you need ?
CO ROCKS
I WATCHED THE FILMS AND ALL I SAW OF THE GREAT CO WAS #4 SNOWDEN PLAYING O AND D. CO IS A 1 TRICK PONY. YOU HELD GLENDORA TO 6 POINTS AND GLENDORA HELD CO TO 7 POINTS ALL NIGHT LONG UNTIL THE TRICK PLAY AT 22 SECONDS. SHUTUP ALREADY AND USE A BETTER SHOWING OF CO TO MAKE YOUR POINT. THIS GAME WAS WAY TO CLOSE THE ENTIRE NIGHT TO SAY ONE TEAM IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER. YOUR HIGHLIGHT FILM OF THE NIGHT ON THE INTERNET DOESN"T SHOW ANY OF THE TARTAN DRIVES OR DEFENSIVE PLAYS WHICH HELD THE GAME CLOSE ALL NIGHT.
GIVE IT UP CO ROCKS, YOU ARE LOOKING REAL SILLY!
Glendora will play the New England Patriots .It seems Coach P deceided if he was going to play a team to get some respect why not play the best .
To Be The Best you have to Beat The Best .
TM
i guess you could make a case for 5 or 6 teams to be #1 this week the bottom line is CO was picked by 1 guy to be in that spot and it doesnt really mean a whole lot...especially to big lou and co. weve been there and done that for the last 10 years
fred just give it to one of the basketball schools (glendora, san dimas) there fans and parents want it more, they deserve there 3 or 4 weeks in the spotlight we all know there seasons gonna be over in 5 weeks
we live for the hype in december!! october doesnt mean a dam thing
As I have stated many times, I'll take the wins for our Saints over the rankings any day, any week, any month, any year!
Fred, just take us out of the top 25. Doesn't matter.
Stay true to the MISSION boys... If we don't win, we don't go to the playoffs.
Get ready for BP, because they are big guys!
What I would like to know, is who is Glendora replacing for CO?
Dranch, it looks like DB will do anything not to play you. they scheduled CO next year.
I couldn't agree with RobertK anymore. The San Dimas defense is very tough. These guys play hard on every down. Yes Barbone and company tear it up on offense, but the defense is the strength of this team. The Withem boys are the heart and sould of the D. These guys always come to play. Chris Pace is a darn good defensive end and add Barbone at safety and you have one of the best defenses around. Coach Zernickow does a damn good job preparing this D
What really funny about Tommy T comment is that he/she wanted to move up another slot at the expense of SD. Rankings will move week to week and really doesn't mean alot to the average Joe.
Then Glendora tries to bash a smaller school and is losing to D6 teams.. Go figure!
The bottom line for me is Glendora continues to be out coached on the field. Trick play or not, they won. If Glendora had discipline, then the nearest defender wouldn’t have been 15/20 yards back..
Coach P is no Lou Farrar!!
If D-Ranch schedules us, what's Los altos excuse?
Good Job D-Ranch. I'm looking forward to the game and I'm sure it will be a good one.
San Dimas # 5 ? I honestly see them at # 3 ahead of Los Altos and South Hills. They are such a well rounded team. I do not think anyone is giving there defense enough credit. it is obvious how strong of a running game they have, unstoppable! The defense is solid top to bottom. They have two of the most outstanding linebackers in the valley, The Bash brothers, Bronze and Kyle Withem. They should easily be on there way to being 1st team all league. I have been watching this team come together all season and they are truly a joy to watch. I sure would not want to face them in CIF. KICK BUTT SAINTS !!
Just talked to coach Layton at DRanch, he said they're close to finalizing an agreement to play Bishop Amat.
ssshhhh south hills hs , its ok.
WOW...South El Monte still gets NO LOVE...What Do they have to do to get moved up they beat rosemead and still nothing man i think some of you people need to catch a glimpse of the Garay Acosta N Cogburn Trio
1.Diamond Ranch
2.Charter Oak
3.Glendora
4.South Hills
5.Los Altos
6.Bishop Amat
7.San Dimas
8.Damien
9.Arcadia
10.Rosemead
11.Bonita
12.West Covina
13.Northview
14.Duarte
15.Arroyo (tie)
15.South El Monte (tie)
Posted by Anonymous:
"Everyone seems to like knocking San Dimas... at the end of the season, they'll be undefeated while all the others will have one or two wins. Granted, they don't compete with some of the higher ranked teams because they're not in the same leagues, but at the end of the day... San Dimas is the best team is a very good league... in fact, they will do what none of the other teams will do, they will go undefeated..."
If I made a statement like that, I'd post Anonymously too. lol!!
Amat Fan at October 17, 2007 11:00 AM
Finally some clarity!
Coach P is probably getting ready for lunch @ noonish , Then he will have a class to teach . Then at about 1:45 get his team ready for Friday night .Unklike us , he has a REAL JOB . TEACHING KIDS , not BITCHING about games , Like US here on this thread .MOVE ON DUDE . Glendora is winning ...LIKE IT OR NOT !!!
TM
TM
An we'll contiune to honk and blow our horns!
CO rocked Glenodra and now they cry about rankings and put other teams down...
TOTAL BS
Anonymous at October 17, 2007 11:13 AM
BS, one trick play? Give me a break! Watch the films, we ran all night long and shut down Glendora to 7 points.
2 out of three, right, in your dreams
EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES.. Where is Coach P now?
HIDING.... from CO
CO ROCKS
what an idiot! CO is all about 1 player (snowden) and one player only. are you proud about that?
you beat glendora with a trick play 22 seconds left. glendora made one coverage mistake. you won the game. you would lose 2 of 3 games if they were played.
Your last sentence .... WHAT ? Bedroom Community Ego ? What does that mean ? Bottom line is CO will no longer play Glendora , in CIF or Pre Season , time to move on . If as FANS hnk the Glendora horn , SO WHAT .We can HONK or BRAG or WHATEVER you want to call it , we support our schools here in Glendora . And what is wrong with that .
fred,
i dont understand. why cant you keep every team every parent every fan happy, im from la and have a lot of tries at co, i think you do your best without showing prejudice, ive seen la, co, dr, sh, this year , before injuries i would have had it
la
co
dr
sh
but now i see it as co and sh very close and dr right behind them,and as far as la, i know its hard to drop them down the list because you know as i do they allways come to play, believe me fred, most of these guys cant stand to see them win, just like co or sh, they allways try to knock on them but bottom line is very good coaching very programs, very good suppoprt, doesnt mean they will allweays win every game but usually right there,
Amat wins a game in 3 OT's vs. St. Paul the number 8 team in the Western Division, then they play this Friday against the Number 9 team Alameny in that same Western Division, does not mean Amat will win this team because they are ranked behind St. Paul.
Heck, I dont see why you would not put San Dimas at number 1, unbeaten and they have had some lopsided victories. It does not matter if BA can beat them or Glendora can beat them or even CO for that matter, these rankings mean nothing because as the season goes teams get beat by one another and you just do a reshuffle, but for a small school like SD with that talented Running back give them their due, then when they lose they drop, but until then they should be number one. Ohio St. is Number one and they will get beat and get dropped. Ranking mean nothing until the playoffs. CO is a good choice right now they seem to be clicking on all cylinders, the arguement for the Lancers and their schedule of opponents well that goes without saying but if you cannot take care of your business and your record has 2 wins then you get what you get. Los Altos will come out losing tomorrow and their decline is starting to show with all their injuries, heck So. Hills has improved allot and can be No.1.They will smash Walnut this week 56-0. It is all a crap shoot at this point.
TM
Wow, I guess I struck the nerve that makes you go wacky! It not about USC, but lets get real, they have played bad the last three games!
It was merely a statement YOU HAVE made on this blog many times, A WIN IS A WIN!
Bottom line, Glendora size doesn't mean squat and they are very slow. There not all that but continue to tell us how good they are.
Then there "Excuses" coach cancells the contract. Just tried of the bedroom community ego and sorry a-- stories..
LET ME GUESS CO ROCKS ...Your team is probably OSU now that they are ranked # 1 . Or whoever else is ranked # 1 . I think USC will be just fine , if not , there is ALWAYS NEXT YEAR . Look at USC record since PC is Head Coach . NO ONE CAN MATCH IT !!! NOBODY !!!So save your USC knocks for somone else , WIN or LOSE I will ALWAYS WEAR MY CARDINAL & GOLD ON SATURDAY AFTERNOONS .And Maroon & Grey on Fridays , an Occasional Red & Black TOO .
FIGHT ON !!!
TM
Anonymous at October 17, 2007 10:36 AM
Spoken like a true fan! Just like many fans who love their team... Amat, Glendora, DR, CO, and everybody else. Great to see a smaller school doing well..
Maybe they run the table, maybe they don't, but one thing for sure, they come to play and are exciting to watch.
Remember, players win games and teams win champioships, that what I like about this team. Humble and true!
Good luck Saints, you guys deserve a lot of credit
Everyone seems to like knocking San Dimas... at the end of the season, they'll be undefeated while all the others will have one or two wins. Granted, they don't compete with some of the higher ranked teams because they're not in the same leagues, but at the end of the day... San Dimas is the best team is a very good league... in fact, they will do what none of the other teams will do, they will go undefeated... so, DR, CO, whoever... you can't claim what SD can claim... because you lost... plain and simple... San Dimas handled everything CIF has sent at it... and others have not! The Saints are a much better team then most people think... the fact of the matter is this... no one who continually slams the Saints has ever gone and watched them play. They enjoy excellent coaching and they take the team approach to the highest degree. They have a few great players and the rest are all very good... They have great line play and their linebackers play with as much intensity as anyone in the SGV. Before SD get tossed under the bus... as a "good team that doesn't play anyone"... you should go and watch them play... any game you attend will be a win... unlike DR, BA, CO, or whoever....
TM
Doesn't matter dude. Like you have said many times... A win is a win. Just like USC
Glendora is not all that..
Coach P is full of excuses and eveyone knows it
CO ROCKS ...
You act as if CO SPANKED Glendora that was not the case , and that topic is SOOO PLAYED OUT !
This thread is about rankings .
NEXT
TM
Tommy Tartan
Get over it. You're not all that! You think you would destory everybody you play...
You can debate all day about SD, like you did about us. But maybe they would beat you because they are very fast like CO. I've seen them play and they are a good football team.
Now, you punks CANCELL our contract. Coach P just cant handle geting beat by lower division teams
THAT A FACT JACK!
GO CRY TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO CARES..
GLENDORA WHO?
By the way, Friday's game of the week is Glendora at Chino Hills. I felt this game will ultimately decide the Sierra League title, and next week's game of the week will either be San Dimas-Northview or Los Altos-Charter Oak.
Tommy, you make a lot of good points. I've said all along, rankings aren't based on who I think can beat who. I'd pick Glendora and Bishop Amat to beat San Dimas in a straight-up game, but you have to reward teams for being undefeated. It's a tough balance, but I do think San Dimas' convincing win over Bonita was enough to justify their ranking. As far as Los Altos, you can't forget their big road win over Western, who are still No. 4 in the Southern Division, which came the same week Glendora lost to ElDo. Yes, you both beat Damien and Glendora did it more convincingly, but Los Altos did it at Damien's house, which was impressive too. Too bad Glendora and Los Altos don't play, not sure who I'd pick in that one.
GOOD TAKE TOMMY T . That is why I said RANKINGS SUCK . Nothing Personal FRED , BUT THEY MAKE NO SENSE ...
TM
Fred,
I know it's tough with a lot of close teams, but I still just don't get it. Doesn't mean a lot, but obviously some people care enough...or in my case it's just kinda fun to discuss. I said last week that putting San Dimas ahead of any of the top 6 was dangerous. Just becasue they win against a poor opponant they stay ahead of us even when we "destroy" another top ten team? Do you seriously think they would give us a game? Don't you think we are having a good year for Glendora? By what criteria are they ahead of us? And Los Altos too, for that matter. They have the same record, they JUST lost and we just beat (a common opponanat and an even more convincing win, BTW) and our 2 loses were against the top team here in a close one and to a team ranked much higher than any in our area (see LA Times ranking, El Do got votes as the #26 team and NO SGV even considered). Even our wins against Eti and W. Ranch are more quality than theirs. S. Hills is on a 4 game streak and just beat LA, so I can see them being ahead of us, as well as the other 2 for now. So what will you do next week if SD wins and we beat Chino Hills? Why isn't SD ahead of LA or even number 1 for that matter based on this logic. I get BA...having a bad season for them. But that doesn't apply here. Again, just opinions here, but you printed it so I guess you thought a lot about it. I just don't quite get your thinking. All in fun though, all in fun.
Northview , they SUCK . #9 ??? COME ON NOW !?!?
Put it this way Mike, If South Hills were playing Charter Oak or DRanch this week, I'd be picking the Huskies.
CIF Rankings suck too ! Just go out & play . At least these rankings are not as bad as BCS. Teams just need to WIN , play each game one @ a time , and hope what you did weeks 1-10 will get you into the playoffs & you make it to week 14.Best of luck to all teams . No knock on San Dimas , just really do not think they would have a chance against any top 10 team with the exception of my Panthers & or Duarte .
TM
(Laughing)
Fred that's because nobody was paying attention last week.
"I don't think anyone can say there is a clear-cut No. 1. However, if you took away the first two weeks of the season, South Hills is making a strong argument going 4-0 in the past month with not just wins, but convincing wins. I thought about jumping them all the way to the top spot, but thought COak and DRanch shouldn't drop until they lose."
Posted by FredJ at October 17, 2007 09:44 AM
Your back tracking Freddie!
MTC
I don't think anyone can say there is a clear-cut No. 1. However, if you took away the first two weeks of the season, South Hills is making a strong argument going 4-0 in the past month with not just wins, but convincing wins. I thought about jumping them all the way to the top spot, but thought COak and DRanch shouldn't drop until they lose.
CO Bro, I couldn't agree with you more. The CIF polls are important though. CIF uses these rankings to seed teams.
OK Fred ...get it . I guess . RANKINGS SUCK STILL.
TM
Each prep editor has their own ranking process. It's not a system the Tribune created.
Fred, you #1 ranking has the same affect as the SI Cover and the Madden jinx! I still say these rankings don't mean jack sh*t until December!
Fred, I had implied the Tribune and not necessarily you. Personally, I like your style but still find your rankings suspect and still, I did receive an email re; your ranking process.
Take care,
Larry
Mike, I had Charter Oak No. 2 last week and nobody screamed. Los Altos lost and Charter Oak spanked Wilson, 50-6, so they deserve the top spot.
If you look at my previous rankings, San Dimas was still ranked ahead of Glendora after the Tartans got spanked by El Dorado. Just because Glendora beat Damien doesn't mean they should skip over undefeated San Dimas.
Larry, "A couple years back I had Charter Oak ranked number 1 in the valley until Amat Spanked them 28-0" I wasn't here a couple years ago, that was Aram.
Come on Freddie a team with a tie is ranked first. As much as I respect Coach Lou even he would ask you how did that happen.
CO should be right around the six hole, but #1 nada.
OUT!
Mike the Clone
Your list blows and does not mean crap because you told me so a few years back in an email reply.
You admitted to me that your rank is based on records and not necessarily how a good a team is because it would 'boo hoo' not be fair, you would have to rank Bishop Amat #1 every year no matter their record because of the quality teams that they play.
Wasn't is a couple of years back you had Charter Oak ranked number 1 in the Valley until Amat spanked them 28-0?
I would take St. Paul and the odds any day against your ranked top 6.
VERY STRANGE RANKINGS , what is "THIS WEEKS " thought process ? How does San Dimas get ranked over Glendora . Just beacause they are 6-0 ? Los Altos gets WHACKED & is still top 5 ..?