US Govt. 101

As a matter of fact I have heard of FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It is an interesting concept that is often not completely understood. Many think it a protection they can hide behind and say anything they want. It does not protect all speech like a security blanket.

You may want to look up Roth vs U.S. “the unconditional phrasing of the First Amendment was not intended to protect every utterance.”

One other thing to consider is the FREEDOM OF SPEECH argument may not protect you if your opinions are not the truth and cause damage to a persons reputation. You may also want to research "Libel" laws. Here are just the basics.

1.a publication to one other than the person defamed;a false statement of fact; that is understood as
a. being of and concerning the plaintiff; and
b. tending to harm the reputation of plaintiff.

Free speech I 100% agree with it is the lack of thought put into the comments that are not appriciated. Comments made as fact about coaches and players designed to damage a reputation is not what I think Fred had in mind for this BLOG.

My point was that there could come a point that Fred and the Trib decide it is not worth it to continue this site due to the liability of providing the means for Libel. If Freedom of the Press is the next argument they have the same protection as the regular blogger. Why do you think every article is reviewed before print for "Libel"

This is a great site and I still would hate to see it go away because a few can't follow common sense and courtesy when posting.

I like reading posts by the majority of you (CO Bro, Dan, Benny, MTC etc just to name a few)does not mean I agree all the time but respect the thought you put into it and appriciate it when done properly.

Give it a rest

Have you ever heard of FREEDOM OF SPEECH? Slanderest crud that hits this blog will never be the cause of its demise. One the other hand, verbal threats written on this site will end what we all seem to enjoy. So, as along as you and I and everyone else pretends to be responsible, this blog site could live on for ever.

give it a rest,
no apology needed, just glad that you can make it out to a WC game from time to time.

Dan

I wrote in my other post about taking things out of context. Yep you are right I am guilty. My post should have been written better and the numbering of items was not called for.

In the first post you and CO Bro made it appeared to me that it was the same theme again about Illegal players with a response of "Oh yeah what about Adam"

Your second post cleared that up and your attempt was only to explain that the WC player was there leagally just like Adam.

Again my apology Dan .

PS I will buy an extra Bulldog burger next time as payment for my error..... :)

FredJ,
The post on Dec 2 8:10 pm,Dec 3 10:54 am and Dec 4 7:35 pm and its reply at 8:07 these are not my posts please remove them and BAN that persons email address from using this blog. Thanks in advance.
VANNER

Bill,

I agree on the freedom of speech and opinion. As far as the comment of the acting civilized I hope you did not take it out of context. It was used as an example of some of the "opinion" based posts made here that are not based on fact. To have an opinion requires information, thought and process to arrive at an opinion. To just throw it out there and have reaction based responses serves no purpose. It was not directed at you or 99% of the other posters it was designed to support my opinion for an Ignore button. If the comment was taken as an attack my apology to all and that was not my intent.

You are right that CIF and schools should not care about what is said on the blog. Thoughtless opinions can be used to discredit a program, coach or player and that is something we should all care about.

CO vs Glendora, SH vs WC, Bonita vs San Dimas are all cross town games and there will be some tounge in cheek jabs exchanged, thats part of the fun. Schedule strenght, rankings and calls by the refs are also part of it and this is a good fourm for things like that.

Comments made to slander a player, coach or program are not called for and I am surprised this blog is still running at times. It seems to me that when the "Blog Trolls" out number the legit posters it will be shut down and that would be a shame.

Give it a rest,
I can agree with most of your post, I am aware that the Charter Oak sophmore played freshman ball at Charter Oak and his school change is legit.
It was already stated a few times on this blog that he was from outside of Charter Oak district, that is why I posted it as a question instead of as a statement. The point of my post was to emphasize that there was no more negativity in the West Covina kid coming back to his home school, than there was in the kid deciding to go to Charter Oak his freshman year instead of the school in his home district.

Breaking news,
I agree that its not recruting if a kid and his parents decide to go to another school, I wish they would stay at their home schools but thats their choice, can you imagine how good West Covina would be if their kids stood in their district?
I was talking to an Amat father in my neighborhood
who's son played linebacker in 06 and he was telling me that Dominique Austine also lives in our West Co neighborhood, Carlton Fletcher from the 06 team also is in the West Co district. Thats 3 solid players just from that conversation alone. Isaac Tucker had around 1400 yards this season, can you imagine how many more he would of had with Dominique Austin blocking for him!
Nothing against any of these boy's, they just chose to play football at the pac 5 level in our area so I can't fault them for that, but you could imagine the teams West Co. could have with some of these players.

nothing personal against West Covina it's just that they sucked so bad this season and all the ignorant people that posted good stuff about them are soooooo ignorant.

west covina sucked this year fo 'sho!

TO THE KID THAT KEEPS SAYING THAT WEST COVINA SUCKS GET A LIFE, MAN YOUR OUT OF CONTROL. DID A FOOTBALL PLAYER FROM WEST COVINA TAKE YOUR WIFE AWAY OR YOUR GIRL FREIND BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME HATE FOR THAT SCHOOL. CALM DOWN....... ITS OK... WEST COVINA MADE IT TO THE 2ND ROUND ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEY GOT LUCKY..... WHAT DID YOUR TEAM DO....

FRED,

Yes, please...we definitely need an 'IGNORE BUTTON' button enhancement on next years BLOG!!!

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Posted by: GiveItARest at December 5, 2007 2:01 AM

Fred many blogs offer an ignore button that allows readers to filter out posts from annoying people that post BS. They can still post but the individual reader can block their posts if they determine they never offer anything usefull. You may want to look into that.
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~FOOTBAL JONES

Dan,

Not like you brother to be so quiet.

WEST COVINA is not better than SOUTH HILLS.
WEST COVINA is not better than GLENDORA.
WEST COVINA is not better than CHARTER OAK.
WEST COVINA is not better than SOUTH EL MONTE.
WEST COVINA is not better than WILSON.
WEST COVINA is not better than DIAMOND RANCH.
WEST COVINA is not better than WILSON.
WEST COVINA is not better than SAN DIMAS.
WEST COVINA is not better than DUARTE.
WEST COVINA is not better than BISHOP AMAT.
WEST COVINA is not better than BALDWIN PARK.
WEST COVINA is not better than LA PUENTE.

WEST COVINA was just garbage this season. Those kids wouldn't know what hard work was if it hit them right in the face. Maggorie should leave. Those are just bad kids all together.

Whoever keeps putting them up on a pedestal and is saying they should be ranked in the Top 5 of the Final SGV Top 10 is a Biased Homer Bozo. WEST COVINA Sucked this year and none of the players listened to Maggiore EVER! CotY? Not this year, not even close.

It's going to be . . . . .

Bogan over Farrar for CotY.

Wells over Snowden for PotY.

SGVTribune Final Top 10

1. South Hills
2. Glendora
3. Charter Oak
4. South El Monte
(5. Diamond Ranch)
5. Wilson
6. San Dimas
7. Duarte
8. Bishop Amat
9. Baldwin Park
10. La Puente

Give it a rest
The great thing about this blog is everyone's right to freedom of speech. If the CIF or local schools and anyone for that matter takes the crap said on this blog as gospel then the people that believe the things said here are the ones with a problem. As long as schools or the players involved know the truth who really cares what people say here???
As far as the schools you talked about CO, LA and the like are always going to be under scrutiny because they are winning programs. It is true that some kids and parents seek out those schools because of their success but also the flip side is the recruiting done by schools that goes back as far as 8th grade.
You were very credible in what you said until you made that ridiculous comment about the dirty players and roid users being more civil than the people who post here. You seem like a smart person. No need to lower yourself to make a comment like that.

WEST COVINA had a good year they went second round with mostly sophmores and juniors. So who ever said west covina sucks is an idiot.What did glendora do besides get blown away on there last game.charter oak and south hills didnt win cif. they played one more game than west covina with mostly seniors and very talented players wow great accomplishment.only thing that really matters is league and cif all the other games are scrimages to me and dont count. they are just practice games so with that said West Covina didnt suck this year they were actually pretty darn good.3-1 in league 2nd round cif one less game played than the league champs from other divisions and our division.not great but with what we had and with what we have gained ill take it...

Dan,

Since you brought it up.

1. Adam is not from Duarte
2. CIF allows ANY Freshman to attend any school to play if the school accepts them (Dist. transfer). They must leave the day before the 1st day of their Sophmore year to be allowed to play varsity at another school.
3. Adam played Freshman ball at CO.
4. Before you throw it out there make sure you have the facts and know what you are talking about.

Once you throw this crap out there the "Sorry, my bad" post does not erase damage you can cause to a kid or program that has done nothing wrong.

CO Bro the same for the kid who came back to WestCo. He returned to his local school from private school and had not played a varsity sport.

If there is an issue let CIF deal with it instead of throwing recruiting allegations around that are based on your lack of knowledge of the facts and rules.

Glendora, CO, SH, WC, LA, and Amat all have good programs but lately a few have found a way to use this blog to bash players and coaches and each other.

I would be willing to bet you could take all the teams that many of you have accused of roid taking, illegal players, cheaters, dirty players and put them in the same room and they would act more civilized than some who post here.

Fred many blogs offer an ignore button that allows readers to filter out posts from annoying people that post BS. They can still post but the individual reader can block their posts if they determine they never offer anything usefull. You may want to look into that.

its not recruiting if kid or parent seek you out...

at that point who the hells gonna turn down a legit athlete that wants to play football for you

most call gano bogan and farrar dirty...i call them the 3 winningest coaches in the sgv

99% of the time its the kid or parent who shops around...not the coach

Dan,

I believe that the transfer in question was actually on the lancers football roster in 06-07 and also played basketball. He left amat during the basketball season, for what we thought was basketball reasons (and that is not out of the question -given the state of lancer hoops at the time), He then enrolled at Mater Dei, before coming back to West Covina when things didn't work out there, probably for the reasons that you state. He is now playing hoops for the bulldogs.

Nothing sinister, this one is simply a boy and his family trying to find the right fit, and I hope that it worked out for him during his senior year.

Most schools recruit and the big ones that are successful and deny it are lying thru thier teeth. It's a fact of HS football. CO, LA, South Hills, Bishop Amat they all do it.

CO Bro,
The transfer from Mater dei has been brought up a few times on this board, This young man lives in the West Covina district, his family is from the West Co district, so in reality he came back to his home school, his younger brother has gone to West Covina since his freshman year, & I hear he will be a good player. One other thing is this
transfer did not play varsity ball at Mater Dei, and is not even on last years roster, so this was
his first and only year as a varsity starter for any highschool, not quite the same situation as Wells or Mcbride or any other impact player.
Now since you brought this up CO Bro. doesn't
your sensational soph runningback Adam Muema
live in the the duarte school district?

Nice post Tony Giesegh,
I too love the Thanksgiving morning practices,
its becoming a tradition at West Covina too, 3 out of the last 4 years.

Has anyone really thought about that C.O. had not one impact transfer player this year from B.A. as well as anywhere else. Stop and think about that just for a minute if McBride or Wells were actually on C.O.'s team this year. L.A. unfortunately had injuries but S.H. had no excuses and still came short of a championship. What would of Glendora done with one of those athletes. Why didn't either one consider the Tartans. Second thought I won't and can't say anything about that on this blog. Anyways, before you're quick with criticism consider reality. West Covina had someone from Mater Dei this year too. Why did we never here about that athlete? Recognize and realize too if anyone is analyzing the C.O. vs. T.H. game the number of possessions were far and few between and not to reveal anything private but from what I heard there was a legit reason why again unfortunately the sophmore running back didn't get more plays and no he wasn't in trouble or serving some kind of punishment. I met the young man once after a game and was very impressed by his demeanor. From what I hear he is an outstanding kid inside and outside the classroom on and off the field! Just some thoughts. Thanks for reading.

1- South Hills
2- Bishop Amat
3- Charter Oak
4- Glendora
5- Damien
6- West Covina
7- Diamond Ranch
8- San Dimas
9- Bonita
10-Baldwin Park

So this is me! Not CO Bro or Potato Head or any of that, this is Tony Giesegh with my original handle and may I say I have not posted here since the Glendora game at which time I wished the Glendora team best of luck.

It is extremely disturbing that so many people have such ill will towards other teams in the community. I love the rivalries, I love Friday nights and I love CO. But at the same time I certainly didn't like to see any of the valley teams go down as it means the end of another season. The older we get, the faster they seem to go.

Anyone who knows me by name knows I am "true-blue" and especially loyal the the CO coaching staff, training staff and most of the administration.

Every season for as long as I can remember, people ask "Well what are you going to do without Jeff Disney" and Josh Rangle steps in. Then "what will you do without Steve Stevenson" and Jason David comes along. And you can name em for every year all the way to Kanaan Snowden this year and next year it may be Adam, who knows. But what I do know is the coaching staff will have them ready and we will be competitive, once again. Hey I love going out on the practice feild every Thanksgiving morning, it's become a tradition. Other than LA and South Hills, not many other locals can say that.

I have no reason to blow smoke up anyones butts, but please don't associate me with negative remarks about Charter Oak or any other team in the area, that's not me.

Congrads to all the teams that did make the play-offs this season, I am sorry we all went home to soon, but theres always next year. Can' wait till it starts! Happy holidays to all and peace among men!

I'm out!
Tony Giesegh aka Grumpy

??at 12/4 at 8:59,
I can't argue that T.Hills was the better team that night particularly in the second half, their defense was physical and didn't miss tackles, they also had a few nice passes in the rain once they got the momentum going.

WEST COVINA is not better than GLENDORA. Whoever keeps putting them up on a pedestal and is saying they should be ranked in the Top 5 of the Final SGV Top 10 is a Biased Homer Bozo. WEST COVINA Sucked this year and none of the players listened to Maggiore EVER! CotY? Not this year, not even close.

It's going to be . . . . .

Bogan over Farrar for CotY.

Wells over Snowden for PotY.

SGVTribune Final Top 10

1. South Hills
2. Glendora
3. Charter Oak
4. South El Monte
(5. Diamond Ranch)
5. Wilson
6. San Dimas
7. Duarte
8. Bishop Amat
9. Baldwin Park
10. La Puente

Shut up Vanner!

#2-GLENDORA TARTANS (9-3)
vs.
#1-SOUTH HILLS HUSKIES (9-3)
@
MSAC on Friday December 14th @ 7:30pm

for the 1st ever

2007 SAN GABRIEL VALLEY CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME

for San Gabriel Valley Supremecy, I like it!

Dan at December 3, 2007 9:35 PM

Only in your mind.

6-6 team and 3 in your league

WEAK!!!!!!!!!

Good point CO Bro (Tony Giesegh). You are our favorite Potato Head. (the girls)

Why SH VS GH? Wasn't GH out in the 2nd round? Thought SH & CO went all the way to the third? People really do show their true colors.
Thanks Tribune

T Hills beat CO and thats all that matters. Bad calls, no calls, raining don't mean JACK! T Hills was the better team. OC football better than SGV football...YES! But I am a homer and will be in the stands next year and for years to come. CO had a very good year but we lost. Thats all that matters now. See you boys next year.

Dan, your assessment would make sense but if you really look at it, the rain clearly was a huge advantage for Charter Oak.

Trabuco Hills played on TURF all year...CO obviously has been playing in grass all year and has known how to play in rain obviously.Also, despite what people saw, Trabuco Hills is typically not just a striaght ahead running team.They are typically a passing and running team and it just so happened that the COACHES knew to make the adjustment to a run game more than a pass game obviously and that was decided in-game when they figured out they could not affectively do what they wanted to do in the air with the elements.

I just think Trabuco Hills was a far and away better team in all areas.Sure, they didn't have the namesake of the "Farrars" or the flashy playmaker in "Snowden".But, the team was far better coached and was just playing with more heart and fire.

Dan

I could not agree with you more! I thought the whole first half that coach was just waiting till the 3rd qtr. to bring in the two of them together, so T/O hills couldn't make the adjustments at the half.

Instead we run our plan and die on our sword!

Dirty White Hat & Anon. at dec 2 6:38pm [probably same person].

Still waiting for your seven teams on that SGV list that would beat West Covina at the end of the season. You can't name them cause there aint seven. Bulldogs definately top 5 or 6 in the SGV.

Benny Tone deaf,
To answer your question I don't think CO was overconfidernt or looking past T.Hills, but I do think the weather affected them more than a straight ahead running team like Trabuco.
One thing I couldnt understand about CO's coaching is why they didn't use Adam Muema in the same backfield with snowden, That kid is phenominal,& having the fresh legs and two break away threats in the same 3 back backfield in the second half would have been hard to contain. That was the difference when they played West Covina, they made that change in offense at halftime & because of that they won the game, I thought they would do it for the T.Hills game, eventually one of those guys could have broke the game open.

OC what are you doing here if that blog is so greaat? You need to keep quiet

Night in and night out you men do nothing but verbally abuse one another from behind a blog. You really sound pathetic. I am personally and professionally from O.C. and if you check our blog on OCVARSITY.COM you would never hear any one of us behave like you each do to each other. I invite you to blog on our website and learn the proper etiquette of blogging! Why does someone allow a blog like this to exist because truthfully you are humiliating your programs but more importantly your families!

Just admit all the SGV sucks and this will solve all the debating!!

Notes on Amat

It about time...

if true, it will be nice to see that someone has finaly come to thier senses. I was a big proponant of having Amat play some of the local teams next year. However, while it does create a great deal of local interest, it nevertheless helps out the Amat program much more than it hurts them, auusming of course that they win these games.

With the following scheduale in mind, perhaps the results could look a great deal like this next year.

OL...loss
Alemany...Win
St Paul...win
Loyola..win
ND...loss
Crespi...win
DR...win
Covina...win

Still have two more games to go here, (ten games total in a schedule,)and if the play more local talent, then perhaps we can finaly see a team with more wins than losses next year.

Location Location Location

I bow down to you o superior great one, of the almighty Glendora Gods!

I will take my worthless self to the low-lands and flog myself!

Thanks for setting me straight!

o sorry i thought we were talking about this year! the 07 season! if u wanna bring up old stuff we can go there

if u go into the history books youll see CO owns that head to head match up...umm next?

o and put a star next to that 06 win...we had no michael johnson

now getting back to the 07 season....

13-7 laaaaates

WOW. FOR ALL YOU GLENDORA PEOPLE THAT THINK U WILL BEAT SOUTH HILLS YOUR WRONG. ALL YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STEP BACK AND RELIZE JUST HOW GOOD SOUTH HILLS AND CHARTER OAK REALLY IS. GLENDORA GOT WORKED BY EL DORADO EARLIER IN THE YEAR 35-14! SOUTH HILLS GOT BEAT IN OT!
COME ON PEOPLE!

beep beep Dan, Look what CO has done for you. Spelled beat not beet. lol I guess maybe where you live does matter.

breaking news

funny because I have a vhs copy of GHS beating CO
14-7 14-7 14-7.....NEXT

that old saying goes...if you cant beat them in football, make fun of where they live...

saaaaad sad g high fans

judge judy i have further evidence!!

a vhs copy of charter oak beating glendora this year lol

13-7 13-7 13-7

PEEPEE Dan

What a Brainiac you are. If MORONS only response on this blog why did you? hahahahahahahahahah

The only morons on this blog talking trash about C/O and S/H, have been beet by them, did not go as far in C.I.F., or did not make C.I.F. at all.

Loosing Sucks, we all know! now even C/O and S/H.

TAIL OF THE TAPE and the VERDICT

CO loss to Upland in week 1. CO beat a ranked GHS in week 3. CO tied Damien in week 4. CO lost to ranked TH in the CIF semi's.

GHS beat a ranked Eti team in week 2. GHS lost to ranked Eldo in week 5. GHS beat Damien in week 6. GHS beat a ranked Chino Hills team in week 7. GHS beat a ranked Ayala team in week 9. GHS beat a ranked Upland team in 1st round of CIF. GHS lost to CC (presently ranked FIRST in the State of Calif and THIRD in the country) in the 2nd round (Div 2) of CIF.

Comparing the two programs I agree with the number crunchers that GHS is the better team.

VERDICT TO GHS

I agree they do hate us up here. I do believe they do know GHS is the better team they just have dirty players and foul mouth parents at every game.

CO will just about say or do anything to make them selves feel better about living below Glendora. Keep hating till you can afford to live up here with the big dogs. Woof Woof

West Covina will be the the CO AND SH of next year, but scheduling Amat is good for the SGV to watch but Amat is coming back stacked next year and this is a bad year to pick playing Amat if you are a surrounding school.....not a Amat fan just a fact.

Breaking news...CO sucks...you suck...so, NEXT...NEXT!

Anonymous

There is no LUCK in disarming a hand grenade or HS playing football.

I bet that kicker is kicking that field goal over & over & over ...in his head . The worst feeling ever . Best of luck to him . Shi* Happens . South Hills DESERVED THE WIN . ElDo just got lucky ...

CO players and fans

So, you all think Big Lou and the boys care about you. WRONG GO MONGO- the season is OVER and he has NO use for ya. But, before he cuts the cord, make sure you all return your CO uniforms because he already has fillers to occupy them. NEXT!

SH field goal kicker is not to blame. How do you think Orange Lutherans QB feels mishandling the hand off (FUMBLE) at the one yard line with seconds remaining and LB Poly up 2-0. Should they have went for the field goal? no they tried another play and they coughed it up and did not advance to the championship game......It happens and that is the way the pickle squirts. It is over and I am picking Trubuco over ElDo

#1FAN
What in the Sam Hill is the word "Bounch" mean?????? Is that WC or CO ebonics? Man you people south of the 210 & 60 fwy have to stop having children with your own family members. We all recognize that you have a GENE problem. Thank God for man made boundaries.

congrats glendora on a great year

you won the siera leauge which had a down year

you got beat by 2 southwest teams

and you beat covina

great accomplishments

south hills and glendora you guys could play for 2nd place because we beat both of you...maybe will give the winner a rematch with the chargers!

talkin alllll that smack about CO and your great coach and great offense put up 7 points aginst us!! hahahahahahahahaha

west covina... i wouldnt like the team that ended my season either its only natural to have hate for the chargers

Fredj
The Tribunes GOTW interview with CO'S Big Lou appeared as if he was nervous as he answered your questions regarding the games finale. Lou stuttered as he strained for answers. He sounded at times like porky-pig...tha-tha-thats all folks! (maybe he was right)

So if what I am reading is CORRECT , a missed field goal @ the end of regulation would have sent El Do home & South Hills into the FINALS !?!? What does that kicker feel like today , I hope his teammates were not too hard on him . The BAGGAGE he will carry ....OUCH !

TO GHS WHO POSTED ON 9:53. WOW!!! SOUNDS LIKE YOUR UPSET THAT YOUR SON GOT TAKEN OUT IN THE 2ND ROUND... GET OVER IT GLENDORA, CHARTER OAK FANS ARE RIGHT YOU GUYS ARE A BOUNCH OF CRY BABIES. WEST COVINA PLAYS YOU NEXT YEAR

Mr. Anonymous,

That doesn't look half bad except you would never get your “new improved” Miramonte to buy off on only two teams into the playoffs.

Damn this site went wild with very dirty and immature exchanges. SH / CO you lost. Big Deal!..you tried, you represented well and most teams (glendora, amat, west covina, rowland, Los Altos, Walnut) would love to have been in those Semis. Dont hang your heads you battled and came up short. Someone has to lose.......the next thing is how will your team come back next year minus the seniors. Someone has to lose give OC the credit and move on...refs, coaching, rain are no excuse a loss is a loss. OC people coming in here and bashing SGV football and where we live that is low. be a good winner and leave that other crap out of it. SGV will be back next year, count on it.

great choice for the 1st ever 2007 San Gabriel Valley Championship Bowl Game:

(2) GLENDORA vs. (1) SOUTH HILLS
This is not my post just someone wishing they were me I would never pick against the Huskies !

how much and where can I get tickets?

I like Glendora, 24 - 16. They are just too big for South Hills.

Posted by: VANNER at December 2, 2007 8:10 PM

Get a Life!

Hey, I blog for a living what else do you want me to do. I'm on the frickin computer all day.

I'll eventually go away, don't worry.

Okay, I reworked it with that in mind

Sierra
Chino hills
Chino
Glendora
Claremont
Charter Oak
Damien

San Antonio
West Co
Wilson
Rowland
Bonita
Don Lugo
Walnut

Miramonte
LA
DRanch
Ayala
Diamond Bar
South Hills

Valle Vista
Covina
San Dimas
BP
Duarte
Nogales
Northview

Montview
Ganesha 9needs to happen next year as a mercy measure)
Gladstone
LP
Bassett
Azusa
SV
workman

Put Pomona in the Mt. Baldy League to replace Don Lugo.

“Posted by: Benny Tone Deaf at December 3, 2007 11:19 AM

Don,

I loved your suggestion about annexing parts of North OC but we "rich white folk" like our place on the edge of the county.”

Thanks Benny,

No worries, you'd still be on the edge of the county, just a different edge of a different county. We'll even let you bring your own Supervisor.

Like most challenges there are simple solutions if one is willing think outside the box, change the paradigm, and press the envelope.

Benny Tone Deaf,

Goodbye! See you next year! Leave the blog now! Bye, Bye!

Don,

I loved your suggestion about annexing parts of North OC but we "rich white folk" like our place on the edge of the county.

WEST COVINA Sucked this year.....

#2-GLENDORA TARTANS (11-2)
vs.
#1-SOUTH HILLS HUSKIES (9-3)
@
MSAC on Friday December 14th @ 7:30pm

for the 1st ever

2007 SAN GABRIEL VALLEY CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME

for

San Gabriel Valley Supremecy, I like it!

great choice for the 1st ever 2007 San Gabriel Valley Championship Bowl Game:

(2) GLENDORA vs. (1) SOUTH HILLS

how much and where can I get tickets?

I like Glendora, 24 - 16. They are just too big for South Hills.

WEST COVINA is not better than GLENDORA. Whoever keeps putting them up on a pedestal and is saying they should be ranked in the Top 5 of the Final SGV Top 10 is a Biased Homer Bozo. WEST COVINA Sucked this year and none of the players listened to Maggiore EVER! CotY? Not this year, not even close.

It's going to be . . . . .

Bogan over Farrar for CotY.

Wells over Snowden for PotY.

SGVTribune Final Top 10

1. South Hills
2. Glendora
3. Charter Oak
4. South El Monte
(5. Diamond Ranch)
5. Wilson
6. San Dimas
7. Duarte
8. Bishop Amat
9. Baldwin Park
10. La Puente

it about time at December 3, 2007 7:30 AM

Dude, you guys finished 6-6 this year and want bagging rights and rankings. LOL

The San Antonio league parity is a joke. You have to beat one team to win league. What did WC accomplish this year by playing MD.. Nothing, you weren't even on the same field and the 3rd
string was in most of 3qtrs.

So, you win 6 games, 3 being in your weak league and other wins were against who?

If you want bagging rights, lets see who you beat in pre-season next year. Until then, and until you win shut up! Talk is cheap and you guys didn't beat anybody that's parity with your league or in a higher division. And don't tell me one game in playoffs is the bench mark for now your the SGV greats! Canyon was ranked somewhere around 250+

We'll see honkie talk

i love how charter oak says they would have beaten #3 ranked C.C and then they get smashed on by what #20 something trabuco hills hahahahahahahaha

I went to the CO game...Left the CO game when the fans started BOOING the refs....how embarrasing.
They get called ... (and Lou has the nerve to call it "Mysterious calls")...and they cry like babies.
That has been CO all season long...more penalties called on them than any other team...can't play dirty so they cry and say it's unfair ...even if the plays weren't called back...they never could have won the game..they know it, fans know it, coaches know it...you can't play a couple of easy teams in league then expect to win in playoffs against good teams....and as far as realigning the leagues..Lou likes winning so he'll stay in a league that doesn't challenge him......

Its about time, Amat is playing so far 2 schools from the SGV next year Dimond Ranch and West Covina way to go........ This should show how Amat could compete with the SGV cant wait.. lets see who else wants to play Amat.. West Covina also has Glendora and Diamond Bar next year they droped Baldwin Park. NO WEAK teams on West Covina schedual next year....... Way to go Bulldogs..
Its funny to hear all this trash talk about West Covina I bet its coming from people who are from a lower div. you know who you are.. until next year.

I am glad South Hills and Charter Oak lost to tell you the truth.I know I am supposed to be like ok go SGV but i am not like that. If West Covina doesnt win then I dont want any other teams who have won West Covina to win especially South Hills and Charter Oak.Just being honest.And watch out for West Covina next year because we going to take it all....but congrats to south hills and charter oak i must admit they both had great teams this year and to bad you both choked at the end.Good luck next year you will both need it.

After three days of thought (and watching La Habra man-handle CalHi Saturday) I've concluded that High School Football here in the San Gabriel Valley is totally inadequate and would like to make the following proposal: lets move the LA County line South to Orangethorpe Avenue.

What choo think?

I mean it does a couple of really cool things right off (besides giving LA County an immediate 250,000 uptick in rich white folks). It adds El Dorado, Esperanza, ValenciainPlacentia, Fullerton, Brea Olinda, and La Habra High Schools (plus a couple lesser lights) so we are right there when it comes to the fallsport playoffs again AND we add a couple of pretty good Baseball programs. This is what Governor Arnie calls a “ween ween sidu asian”.

If this works out maybe we can annex Knotts Berry Farm next.

Bill, I asked you to post yours first and got no response, who lacks the sack. I live as far NE as the trib goes.

Anon,

Nice try, but that won't work for one main reason -- you have two seven-team league's and two eight-team league.s That would create havoc on divisional brackets because of the 50-percent rule. CIF-SS prefers the traditional 6-team leauges. They are willing to accept an occasional 7 or 8-team league in one area, but not four. I'm pretty sure if the MT. SAC region took that to the CIF-SS Council, they would order them to rework it, since with 30 schools, it should be possible to have five 6-team leagues.
Now, as one who has covered the re-leaguing process, I know it's not always possible, because of the politics involved.
Personally, I prefer leagues to be divided primarily by geography, again the politics sometimes prevent that.
But this is very good blog topic that either myself or Fred should address sometime.
Also, we are pretty much stuck with this alignment until 2010, since they re-league every four years, and the present alignment was voted on in 2005, so they won't address it again until 2009.

Mountain view league. Citrus Belt league, Moore league, Trinity, What is the name of the league with Hart, Canyon, Valencia, Saugus? Foothill? Just a few!!!!! Tap Out! Time to go help Lou turn in the gear!!! Maybe you guys can get Michael Graham's son to help you next year!!!

gave up on there season????? a win would of put them in the playoffs aginst co

and this is the first year in the history of sgv football where glendora had a better year then los altos

i will give u bonita and wilson though...there pretty bad haha

name 1 leauge that doesnt have atleast 2 horrible teams in it and ill tap out and call u the winner

Yeah after they forfeited 7 games and more or less gave up on their season. I would like to see how you would do every year if that was your league and you didn't play Bonita, Wilson, And in all honesty LA. Kind of weak. It is easy to win one or two, but every week?

we tried to "claim supremacy" but it turns out glendora and south hills have chosen not to play CO during the regular season

we basically already play all those teams except...(chino) whos garbage (chino hills) who lost to DR this year and (ayala) who also lost to dr who by the way we beat 48-7

come on guy if your gonna bring the scenarios atleast be legitament...

glendora fans did u get a look at trabuco?? how do u think u would of done?? and please only the good fans reply to this

CCCCCOOOOOO

I think we should settle it once and for all. Re-Leaguing that is truly fair and equitable and gives you guys your SHOT to claim supremacy. I put LA in the Miramonte cause i don't think they have it anymore.

South Hills and Charter Oak here you go

Sierra League 2008
CO
SH
DHS
DR
Chino Hills
Ayala
Chino
Glendora

Miramonte
Walnut
West Covina
Nogales
DBar
Rowland
Wilson
LA

Valle Vista
Bonita
San Dimas
Covina
Northview
Baldwin Park
Duarte
Pomona
Garey

Montview
Ganesha
LP
Gladstone
Azusa
Bassett
Workman
Sierra Vista

Hey, with football done for another season, check out some great basketball action all next week. Big local tourney going on at Rowland and Glendora (same tourney...2 locations) Monday - Saturday. Several top local teams in action. You can go to www.glendorabasketball.com to see the bracket and schedule.

Wildcat mom,
If this place is for filthy pigs what are you doing here??? You fit right in

Jeff,
He doesnt have the guts to do it here. A kid hiding behind a computer.

this blog is like a bathroom stall wall and you all are filthy pigs

I knew you didnt have the sack to post them here. You are all talk. Go on your appointment with your parole officer. I am sure you can use it.

Cant post them here? Afraid of something??

Appointments around 10? You must be a social worker. Or a house painter

I'll meet you somewhere buddy, as long as you stop bringing up balls. I'll be finished with my appointments by around 10

Charter Oak #1,

If you're going back to last year...fine. GHS beat you in our house (final possession), you beat us in your house (final possession). Where does that leave us. You still have to look at the "body of work", and this year it says Glendora in a close call. Upland and Damien comparisons and now you get beat soundly before you can even GET to see how bad El Do beats you. Our only other loss was to CC and well...nobody's coming close to them these days. Did ya see what they did last night to Chapperal? 68-14!? It was something like 48-7 at HALF!!! Now they play Santiago in the final, which they beat earlier 69-7!!!! Man, I wish we'd been in the other bracket. We might still be playing next week (although a slaughter on TV might not be to fun of an experience). Seriously, I think all 3 teams are clearly the top in the valley this year (and that includes the westside too). I had no problem with CO being just ahead of us until we beat Upland and then waiting to see how they did once the got to El Do. In fact Calpreps had them just slightly ahead of us the last few weeks and South Hills 3-4 points below us. I thought this was accurate. Now I think Calpreps has it right again with CO at 30.4 and us at 34.7. They now have SH moved up the 33.7...very close to us. I'm guessing Fred puts SH at #1, and I'd understand why I guess. They did handle El Do better than we did. Their schedule was not as tough, but they had a good run. I love the SH vs. GHS final game idea. I think that would be a tough, close game and would settle it for good. Great year to all 3 teams. It was fun debating (most of the time) and making our case here on the net. Good luck to all the seniors in your "next steps" in life. If that includes some football...the best to you. If not, go to school and build on the character lessons you were taught by good coaches and great teammates. God Bless.

Douche and Bill sleep together. They both would mess up a wet-dream by waking up.

lol don't you sgv folks have your midnight shift at denny's coming up??

with all those housing foreclosures... you don't wanna lose your job now do you? quit making feeble come back attempts and go mow my lawn.

Man this is too funny. I want to thank all of you social retards for making my night!! I haven't laugh this hard in years. Btw JFR, why dont you post your full and home address? Got the balls to do it?

bill, if jfr told you he was 18 would you be turned on right now.

Bill,
you lettered in two sports,FB center & BB catcher.

Glendora Who?

Ask CC LOL

They do not belong above SH or CO. What a joke.

SH played EL D like Glendora couldn't. Called we got crushed.

Enough Said

i was the center in highschool...i got cut cuz i hated snappin the ball...i still dream about those loooong counts

Bill,

The youtube post really show your true colors RAINBOW colors San Francisco resident!

Everyone please lay off Bill,

He is the proud owner of"GerBILLs R US" in West HollyWOOD. Sorry for all the HARD comments directed at you, I hope your able to handle all of that back door humor.

I did graduate from Compton, located smack dab in the middle of the SGV