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I liked studying your blog, thanks for posting such beneficial content.

Great post! I wish you could follow up on this topic!?!

I for one do not think the alumni has turned their back on AMAT. Yes we are pissed at the outcome of the past season but to say we are not on board or whatever is total b.s. As far as next season it seems that we will again have Verti as our coach .Many come on here saying fire him and get a coach with experience but you need to come up with the money for that and we all know that will not happen unless attendence at the games is so bad it hurts someone's (Mnsgr) pocketbook. We did see a little improvement with play calling at the end of the season so let's build on those points . Maybe changing some of the assistant coaches , and keeping our players from leaving will go along way towards our return to respectability. This will be Verti's third year now so there is some of that experience people are talking about. If we as alumni and backers are speaking in negative terms about the program what do you think people who are considering sending their kids to AMAT are going to think. Let's get behind the program and support our team and think positive so we can turn it around.

JA

Thanks for clearing that up. Agreed!

02,
What john is saying is that while the top half of leagues get into the playoffs (3 for 6 team leagues, 4 for 7 team leagues like the Moore League and only 2 for a 4 team league, that leaves one AT-LARGE berth up for grabs.

At 3-7 you have NO chance at that. This year the at-large berth was between Los Alamitos at 7-3, Capistrano Valley at 5-4-1, Santa Margarita at 5-4 (one game canceled due to the fires), and LB Jordan at 5-5. The bid went to Santa Margarita based on their schedule. If I were the Los Alamitos people I'd be really pissed. This should break the "CIF is biased" theory - their office is in...Los Alamitos !:?)

If amat is 6-4 with wins over Carson, St Paul, Alemany and Los Osos (all who are league or co-league champs) they are at least in that conversation, and maybe in. I agree that I'd love to knock off ND and Crespi, but first things first - at least win the games that we should.

John,

In order for Amat to make the playoffs they need to win 2 of their 3 league games, non-league games have no bearing on the playoff picture other than getting the team prepared for league games.

To get to the playoffs they need to beat a combination of league teams: Crespi and Notre Dame, Crespi and Loyola, Notre Dame and Loyola or just beat all three teams. This is easier said than done given the level of caliber Crespi and Notre Dame brings to the table. We have already proven we can beat Loyola, the $64k question is can we beat Crespi or Notre Dame or both next year with the status quo? I think not.

Good points and while I understand your viewpoints, I do disagree with some of them.

Joe Amat and john always have very fair responses and have enough respect for them selves to not attack any coachparent or player because they know to get respect, you have to give respect. Maybe you two have been coaches and know what can happen during a season.

Mass exodus
I don't think we will see that this year. I have spoken to a couple of parents and they believe in the program but more importantly in the school. They also stated that they aren't going to strip their child of the experience to graduate with their friends. They made lifetime bonds that aren't going to be dictated by a football."It's about Family" was one of their quotes. I hope that didn't give anything away.

john,
when you say that some alumni are not on board that pisses me off. When this ship is righted, I don't want those alumni back. Lancers don't turn their backs on their school or their team. For those of us that have played, we belong to one of the best Football Fraternities in the country. Its not something to be taken lightly or looked as unimportant when things don't go the way we want them to. I have my work gloves on and am ready to work.

Amat 02,

Great post from the Loyola Blog, seems that they are in the same position that Amat is in. If those coaches decide to leave maybe we can pick some of them up!!!!!

OK, Amat has a tough schedule in the preseason as well. They always do, and no one can tell me this year is any different than others. Amat has never ducked anyone.

Prepwatcher,

Your right Verti must go.
The PAC-5 is not a place to break in a new head coach. I do not blame Verti for the failures of these past two years, I blame the administration for putting him in this situation.

Going 1-2 in this league is not as horrible as loosing some of the preseason game that we did. If Amat would have gone 5-5 or 6-4 than maybe a At large Bid could have been an option and who knows what happens when you get there. 5-5 or 6-4 with this schedule would have been a decent year and it was obtainable. But 3-7 is unacceptable. Look at the schedule again. Los Osos should have been a win. Carson, 3 times 1st and goal to come away with nothing unacceptable. Alemany, now come on, when have we lost to Alemany, that should have been a win. That brings you to 6-4. You get into the PAC-5 playoffs and the players will come and the Alumni will be back on board. It is plain and simple, you win and they will come.

Verti needs to be replaced and many agree, do it early enough so the mass exodus from the underclassmen at semester break does not happen.

02,

WOW!

we couldn't have said it better ouselves.

uuuummmmmm.....ditto!

Look like there is a similar "coup d'état" going on at Loyola.

excerpt taken from Calprep Loyola blog:

So, we have arrived at the inevitable crossroads that everyone saw coming. The Program is at an all-time low point, as evidenced by the players, coaches and their families on Friday night. There is no argument that has been posed that would argue that the Program will not unravel even further next year.

WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN?

There are potentially eight different groups that will weigh in:

1. The Jesuits
2. The Board of Directors and Trustees
3. The Administration
4. The Alumni
5. The Assistant Coaches
6. The Players
7. The Parents
8. Coach Kearin

Here are some thoughts to consider:

The Jesuits:

The Jesuits, as an institution, have been trying to deemphasize football at Loyola for a while. They are more than happy to have a 4-6 team that competes on the Division 8 level, because, after all, football shouldn't matter that much, as it's not part of the true "educational experience". Unfortunately, this is a very myopic, selfish and discriminatory position to take, especially for those that are "Jesuits" and know the history of the Order and the trial and tribulations endured by their mighty forefathers throughout history. But let's not open up the history books. The fact is that football at Loyola has been arguably the "greatest" educational experience available at the School for more than 20% of its student body for a very long time. The life lessons and self actualization realized by thousands of Loyola Football Alumni during their years at Loyola remain some of their most formidable experiences and are continually reflected on and drawn upon. Further, as The Jesuits continue to educate its lay faculty members about the Ignatian Philosophy (because the Jesuit Order is signifcantly declining in numbers and needs to elevate lay leadership)it is emphasizing the the concept of "MAGIS" or Latin for "MORE", which simply means that part of the Ignatian Philosophy is that each student's experience and the collective Loyola Community experience should be focused on becoming the best student or community possible, by leveraging and realizing the full extent of the unique strenths of each individual within the community and then pushing to become "MORE" than anyone ever believed possible...all through the grace of God. So, there's our theology for the day, but the point is, that for the Jesuits to deemphasize football and not try to be "best" in such an endeavor is "Un-Ignatian". Do what is right for the students and give them the educational experience THEY want.

The Board:

The current Board has been slow to become involved in the athletic programs. They need to get involved now, because they are all aware of the "crossroads" and the risks that it poses. The School needs your leadership more than ever and don't be shy because certain faculty members think you are overstepping your bounds. Do what is right for the students and the Community and don't worry about the artificial politics.

The Administration:

The Administration is tied to The Jesuits. So, as stated above, do what is right for the students and give them the Football Program they want. Leave behind whatever agendas you have created and COMMITT to and INVEST in excellence. "MAGIS"

The Alumni:

The Alumni need to be heard. There has not been a gathering of 2 or 100 Loyola Alumni, wherein the state of the Football Program is not discussed and deep concern is expressed. Not only because we are losing, but the core elements of the "Loyola" football program are missing and the future looks very bleak. The Alumni want a change and they should be recognized.

The Assistant Coaches:

The assistants need to be heard. Like it or not, the communication and relationship between the HC and the assistants is almost non-existant. That has been the case since mid-2005. The greater issue is the majority of the coaches are thinking of stepping down. Where are we then? As I've stated before, these coaches are the foundation of the program and we need to elevate them and circle the wagons. We have the leadership and talent within the staff to move forward rather seamlessly, but the decision needs to be made now.

The Players:

This is the most important part of the conversation. Everyone needs to put them first. Never have we seen a more dejected, deflated group of LOYOLA MEN take and leave the field as if they are being held hostage. This is not right and don't even begin to point the finger at these kids. They are the same kids that have graced our campus for many years and THEY DESERVE BETTER! Educate them with real leadership on the football field. DON'T TAKE THAT EXPERIENCE AWAY FROM OUR STUDENTS! Let them achieve the excellence they are capable of.

The Parents:

They have been pushed to the brink of frustration, as their sons endure this experience. For the most part, they have bitten their lip. They need to be heard. They sent their sons to Loyola for EXCELLENCE. Again, they sent their sons to Loyola for EXCELLENCE. Instead of having them talking about pulling thier sons out of Loyola, why don't we give them a Program to rally around. Again, the transition, if done properly, could be seamless. The parents want a new coach now. That is clear.

Coach Kearin:

Again, this is about the students and by this point and he has to be reading the writing on the wall. Unfortunately, he stands in complete isolation from the players. That is not healthy for the Loyola Community now or in the future. The reasons why have been outlined on these boards for years now unfortunately. For him to stay at this point would be little more than a selfish gesture that would continue the Program down the path that it is on. This is not about "We'll get 'em next year" this is about building a Program that is in pursuit of EXCELLENCE at every moment (which is exactly what the students want), and it just may be the case that Coach Kearin's talents and interpretation of EXCELLENCE are not aligned with the Loyola Program, but could be well invested elsewhere.

It is time for the Loyola Community to make a major decision. Let's not hide from it. By nothing happening and Coach Kearin remaining as the Head Football coach next season, that would be a decision and one that would be extremely destructive to our beloved institution for years to come.

DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR STUDENTS! The legacy of Loyola football is part of what makes Loyola....LOYOLA!!! This legacy is not owned by the Jesuits,The Board, The Administration or anyone one group. It is a legacy that is owned by our Commnity and it should be perpetuated with everything we have for years to come.

MAGIS!

AMAT 03
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT. SOME OF THESE BLOGGERS DONT SEEM TO GET IT. VERTI NEEDS TO BE OUT OF THERE NOW* LOOK AT HIS TRACK RECORD. HE IS NOT A WINNER AND DOES NOT BELONG IN DIVISION AS A COACH. HE IS SIMPLY MEDIOCRE AND DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. WHY DONT MANY OF YOU SEE THAT?
OH AND BY THE WAY LANCER 2 DN....YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL MY FRIEND..IT'S CALLED PATIENCE..NOT PATIENTS....GET IT RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN PATIENT ENOUGH AND IF LOSING IS OK TO YOU...THEN YOU SHOULDNT BE IN THE AMAT STANDS BECAUSE AMAT IS BETTER THAN THAT. NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS.

73 - I am with you 100%...and then some.

As I said a little below...scheduling down does nothing. However, lets NOT pound our chest about 3-7 saying we have the best schedule in the state, so that it was a success.

We've got a ways to go. Let's do what it takes to get there.

Agreed?

Thank you for those bits of information. This is the way we prepare for league , by playing the best teams we can schedule, win or lose. To schedule weaker teams for the sake of a few wins is not the way to go. This is as much a tradition as any other tradition we have at AMAT and to change that would be a step backwards. Yes, I know some will say that we are not what we used to be but the only way back is to keep playing those caliber of teams to test ourselves and regain that top level status once again.

So to make some similar comparisons, the 2-7 Oakland Raiders have the 2nd toughest scghedule in the entire NFL. The 3-7 Washington Huskies have the 3rd toughest schedule in the entire NCAA . But that ranking is on the basis of losses to Ohio St, USC, AZ St, Oregon, etc. and future games with Cal and Hawaii. Something to be proud of?

When you *win some games* against a tough schedule - then that's something that you can hang your hat on. Showing up for your schedule and simply not forfeiting is not necessarily something to be commended for.

What does losing 7-38, 11-42, 0-21, 5-55, and 30-51 against top ranked teams really say about your performance?

Need I say more?

Top 10 Toughest Schedules in California
CALPREPS.COM

1. 38.4 BISHOP AMAT - Serra League
2. 38.1 Servite
3. 37.8 San Mateo Serra
4. 36.3 Crespi - Serra League
5. 36.2 Loyola - Serra League
6. 34.9 Mountain View St. Francis
7. 34.1 Edison
8. 33.9 Notre Dame - Serra League
9. 33.3 Canyon Country Canyon
10.32.8 Corona Santiago

TOP 10 Toughest Leagues in California

1. 39.6 Serra (BISHOP AMAT/Crespi/ND/Loyola)
2. 38.0 West Catholic
3. 37.6 Mountain View
4. 34.9 Trinity
5. 31.9 Avocado
6. 31.4 Sunset
7. 29.5 Foothill
8. 29.2 Southwestern
9. 27.8 County/Metro
10.27.3 San Joaquin

Can you figure this one out? Bishop Amat's toughest schedule in the school's history? The toughest schedule in the STATE of California. My hats off to the LANCERS that played such a vicious schedule. Keep working hard!

Need I say More

Amat posters,
I'm a West Co fan so I have no bias but these last
2 years is not giving Verti much of a chance,
you think you had the worst season ever this year but everyone is forgetting that Amat had by far the toughest schedule this season than in any other year since 2001, maybe even in their whole history. No other season comes close to this years average power ratings per team.
Lets remember that Hart, O.lu, Crespi, & Notre Dame are monsters this year, & even most of the the midrange teams Amat played were better this year than last year. In fact, during Verti's
2 years as head coach, Amats schedule was tougher than any other year in the previous 7 years.

Here are the average calprep rating per team for Amats opponents since 01.

Year ave. rating per team
2001 16.3
2002 24.8
2003 29.05
2004 29.64
2005 28
2006 30.6
2007 38.4
As you can see, Verti's years were the toughest schedule, almost any Amat team in the last 10 years would have had the same results with this years schedule, except maybe the 2005 team, who I thought was Amats most talented team in the last ten years.

Sorry Blue,
That last post was me- Dan

Blue,
No problem, & no feelings hurt over here, you have your opinion and I respect that, and I would bet that your opinion is the consensus pick for our game, but having been to a couple of practices this week and remembering their solid play in the second half of the South Hills & Walnut games, gives me the hope that I have for a
Bulldog upset. Canyon is a tough tough team and I see why they are favored, that running back looks like he has the moves and speed of Snowden
but he is bigger & stronger and they also have two good recievers, but I think we have
a decent shot at an upset, they are a scoring
machine but they can be scored on to, if we can
make a few stops and control the ball I like our chances.

Some corrections made, sorry for the errors.
Here is comparing Difiori's record to Verti's:

Post Salter Era
1999 - 5-5 (no playoffs, 1st time in 15 years)
2000 - 2-8 (no playoffs)
2001 - 9-2 (first Del Rey championship, lose 1st round to Edison)
2002 - 6-6 (second round loss)
2003 - 7-5 (second round loss)
2004 - 6-6 (Verti OC lose to Los Alamitos 2nd rnd)
2005 - 6-4 (Verti OC no playoffs)

Verti's record
2006 - 4-6
2007 - 3-7

If the trend is any indication we will be a sub .500 team next year.

Here is comparing Difiori's record to Verti's:

Post Salter Era
1999 - 5-5
2000 - 2-8
2001 - 9-2 (first Del Rey championship)
2002 - 5-6
2003 - 5-6
2004 - 6-6 (Verti OC)
2005 - 5-5 (Verti OC)

Verti's record
2006 - 4-6
2007 - 3-7

Who ever believes Verti is going to change things around next year better look at his track record or get his friggin head examine. His track record speaks volumes of his ineptness and inexperience. At one time we were just a .500 team, now we are a sub .500 team. How much lower can we get?

Joe Amat,

I just wanted to point out that some Amat posters take things too far. I'm not one of them. At times you have taken things personal and I didn't want this to get blown out of proportion, your sarcasm notwithstanding.

We are a rebuilding program. Plain and simple. and we need to do things that rebuilding programs do. Kids feel better after wins. Morale is up and they try harder. Any good educator will tell you that a nice phone call home to the parents will do wonders for the students self esteem. Same concept different venue. That's my point. Whether it has a flaw or not is more of opinion but that's how I'd like to see it.

I don't think lack of pride is the problem. I don't question the hearts of our coaches and players. We cannot judge what these coaches did on record alone. In the past coaches would have covered up players who didn't meet their GPA status. I know because I blocked for one of them. These coaches are bringing accountability to the players of the program. I'm also sure they are looking at themselves and wondering if they belong. Some do and some don't.

To those who can't let go,
Even though I'm a part of the past and tradition, I don't want to hear about it anymore. What's in the past is in the past. Look forward and be positive

Doesn't make me have less pride for my thoughts. Doesn't make me less of a Lancer. Blue and Gold is in the blood, in my parents blood, in my son's blood and he can't walk yet.

One last thing. Verti was trying to keep it postive for the kids in the paper. "We all suck" doesn't seem like a good quote to leave for those seniors to remember.

Prepwatcher22,

Patients,! Patients! you have none and you better find some or go jump on another teams coatails because Verti is at Amat and is not going anywhere. Blame him all you like and give us your Concord De La Salle comparisons but fact remains the same, we are retooling with a new young coach and we are not going to change course because you or anyone else that bashes Verti says so. He is going to get us there and the funny part is, in the process you wil be there to watch Amat football and pull for our Lancers either way. So until you can go back and get your four year degree and show us your College football background and produce evidence that you can do any better then Verti, can your monday morning arm chair business. You must be that disgruntled little B that just has to come on here and feel big about yourself and your a wannabe coach that just shoot from the hip. Amat is Amat and the cycle has not come full circle yet in our favor. Verti knows what he is doing and next year as the program is winning it is people like yourself that will be changing their tune about this gifted young coach. Verti is at Amat for now and there is nothing you can do about it so in the meantime respect him and support him or go find another team. Then that team you can bash if they lose too. This one's for you Preppy22

Sorry I hurt you feelings Dan, but WC is too young and will lose that game. No hard feelings toward Henson just giving my opinion on the game I think WC is going to lose. If they win good for them but it is unlikely. WC will be one of the better teams next year but right now they are still sour and not ripe yet. I do see them beating So. Hills next year tho.

HEY EVERYBODY,

ITS GOOD TO BE BACK HERE...I HAVENT BEEN ON HERE FOR AWHILE.
I WANT TO START BY REPLYING TO BLOGSTER..IN THE LOYOLA GAME, IT WAS NOT LENHARTS GRANDFATHER THAT WAS SENT TO THE HOSPITAL. IT WAS NOT ANYONE THAT HE KNEW. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND HIS REASONING FOR WALKING ALONE AS IF LOOKING FOR RECOGNITION FOR HIS ACHEIVEMENT. HE HAD ONE GOOD GAME AND IT WAS ONLY ONE GAME. YOU ARENT NOTICED BECAUSE OF ONE GAME. YOU BECOME NOTICED BY WHAT YOUVE DONE ALL SEASON AND THIS SEASON WAS NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF.
AS FOR VERTI, HOW CAN HE SAY THAT THE TEAM PLAYED WELL ALL SEASON EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF HALVES? WHAT GAMES WAS HE WATCHING? THATS RIDICULOUS..AND REALLY SHOWS HIS IMMATURITY IN HIS COACHING ABILITY.
JOE AMAT, YOU ALWAYS BRING VALID POINTS AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR POSTINGS. THEY ARE TRUE AND STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I AGREE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES AND AMAT DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE SITTING ON THE SIDELINES WATCHING THE PLAYOFFS. WE BELONG IN THE PLAYOFFS PLAYING AGAINST THE BEST. THIS YEAR, THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SUPERSTARS ON THE TEAM BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT...WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A BUNCH OF "SUPERSTARS" COACHED BY A ":ROOKIE" OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF PLAYERS COACHED BY SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE AND SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO WIN. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE LATTER. IF THE KIDS WERE WELL COACHED THEN THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO WIN. IT DOESNT TAKE SUPERSTARS TO BE VICTORIOUS...IT TAKES LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION AND TEAMWORK. IT TAKES A GREAT COACH TO LEAD THEM. THAT IS SOMETHING WE DID NOT HAVE WHATSOEVER. HERES A PERFECT EXAMPLE: CONCORD DE LA SALLE..THEY HAD 12 YEARS OF REIGN BECUSE OF GREAT COACHING. THEY DIDNT HAVE ALL THE SUPERSTARS LIKE LB POLY....EVERYTIME THEY FACED EACH OTHER CONCORD DE LA SALLE WON BECAUSE OF EXCELLENT COACHING AND DISCIPLINE. IN ORDER FOR AMAT TO BE BACK AT THE FOREFRONT, THEY NEED TO HAVE A CLEAN SLATE OF COACHES. BRING IN EXPERIENCE AND QUALITY.. DONT KEEP VERTI( THATS TO YOU LANCER 2 DN)

Amat Guy,

If you've been around long enough you know tat a schedule taht includes 4 of the top 10 teams in the state is probably more status quo than out of the ordinary. The only difference is that we were once one of those top ten and now we are not. Those are the issues that we must address - not the schedule.

Adding a few "lower tier teams" does not teach kids to win. It teaches them to settle for less than their best. Learning to win does not happen during game time by looking at the scoreboard. It happens during the daily efforts in practice that teach maximum effort and maximum focus on attention to detail. There is neither enough direction nor experience to make that happen. Too much slippage and not enough pride from day to day on the field, in the locker room, or in the coaches office. Not just on Friday night.

The fact that there is "...a good group of kids with no superstars or gamebreakers..." is our own fault and some blame must land at the feet of the staff. A mature and experienced coach would inspire enough faith in the program and develop a sense of pride that players (and their parents) would feel like they were a part of something *special* and do absolutely everything possible, on and off the court, to remain as part of something *special*

Bottom line is that we are not that *special* anymore. *Special is not a name, a uniform or a "little golden a" on your helmet. *Special* is a way of life on the field, in the locker room, and around campus. It takes more than pounding your chest and saying "we are amat", "on blue", or "mighty are the men that wear the blue and gold" to be *special*. "Amat Family" is *special* - "amat nation" is not.

It will take changes to regain our place as someplace *special* - and not just in the coaching staff.

BTW-I hope you didn't mistake exclamation points as not being civil. If I said something "un-civil", please let me know

This is to Joe Amat. I can keep this civil discussion.

I want to be clear that 3-7 is not acceptable. Yet we know what we had. A good group of kids with no superstars or gamebreakers. They were hard working but were not familiar with winning. I believe that a few wins against some lower tier teams would have given this group the confidence it needed going into league.

Should we schedule tough teams in the preseason?
Yes, we need to be tested before league. It can also boost our playoff seeding beating a good team

Should we put ourselves through the ringer every week?
IMO No. These kids need a confidence booster in the early weeks also. Playing each game as if it was the playoffs can drain any team emotionally and physically. Playing four of the top ten teams in the state is tough for any team.

Amat donations,
Msgr. Carroll is always making up excuses for the way he is going to spend your donation money. He rather use an atheletic scholarship fund for a student scholarship, he rather use your money to pay for the gym instead of build a new stadium, he rather send your money to the archdioces, etc., The truth is that all that money is going back to his buddy Arch Bishop Mahoney & the archdioces to pay for all the child molestation cases pertaining to priests and altar boys, GET IT! BIG PICTURE PAL! WAKE-UP & SMELL THE COFFEE FELLAS!!!

Lancer2DN,
U will eat ur words. Especially, if they continue with the same coaching staff. U wont if they hire a new staff. Verti called the last game and it was like night & day. Although, Loyola was not that good. The offense still ran better than it has the past few weeks. The talent is there, but the trainning is not. You can tell when our players match up. It's really the workout program. We've had players in the past that were muscled out. That's what our players should look like, but our guys are skinny, soft and not as strong as they should be. All goes back to coaching!

Lancer 2 DN,

"If you do what you've done, you'll get what you've got!"

There's no way you can sit back and assume that the ship will right itself. We've gone far enough down that river and it's time to change the course!

When you have a coach that is fortunate to be 3-7 publicly say that he did a good job all year except for two halves it's time to take away his shoelaces for his own safety and start looking for a better option.

Playoffs are not the same without Amat being in them. We want that representation for SGV in the highest Division of HS Football play. Amat needs to bounce back not only for themselfs but for the whole SGV.

Hey Amat guys knock it off already, we are not in nor do we deserve to be in. It was not our year. We will bounce back next year with Verti at the helm. As far as who we played and who are those teams and where they are seeded in the playoffs means absolutely nothing. We at Amat must face up to it and admit we did not take care of our business and thats why we are grounded again. Blame the coach blame the QB blame the AD blame Carroll does not matter player play the game and we did not match up very well and were beat by better talent..face it move on and next year we will be there...We have a good exciting team coming back..Amat is back next year without a doubt.

Amat Guy,

So that means that 2 of our three wins came against "non-playoff teams"? Only 1 win vs playoff competition?

That's acceptable to you?

The answer is "schedule down"? Then we become the basketball team, who plays teams like Rosemead, Sierra Vista, and Bassett just to go .500.

That's acceptable to you?

Wouldn't it be better to maintain high standards and find a way to live up to them?

"Thats the best one yet, LA got into that same coin flip (and lost) with a 0-4 record but one of those two forfeit games was against them."

Yeah, but if LA won the coinflip, no one would be trying to spout the BS that they got in on anything but a lucky break.

Hell, it's not impossible Wilson makes it to the second round. Mayfair really ain't all that good this year.

john, thanks for the fair response. Maybe the student body does not know the alma mater but the football players do. Also maybe you are donating to the wrong people. I give back but never to the school administration. Sometimes you do need to put your brother in check when he is acting like an a$$. I don't think that is the case here. This is more of your lil bros needing help.

Can I just point out that eight of the ten opponents are playoff bound.
Crespi 2 seed in PAC 5
OLu 4 seed in PAC 5
Hart 2 seed in the Inland.
Notre Dame
St. Paul
Alemany
Los Osos

City Section
Carson 2 seed in Championship bracket

Can we schedule down just a tad.

Jhykron,

Thats the best one yet, LA got into that same coin flip (and lost) with a 0-4 record but one of those two forfeit games was against them.

Clarification:

They went 1-3 in league and were eligible to get in on the coinflip because a 3-1 team had to forfeit two games. That says nothing about their
"heart" one way or the other.

Jhykron,
Real smart if they were 1-3 in the league the win wasn’t a forfeit. I think they beat LA, how soon we forget.

Conq76,
Yes, Los Altos has tradition, so does Amat. This tradition wasn't based on pulling kids from other schools to make your system stronger. It came from building a program from top to bottom. LA should be working with the freshman, sophomores, and juniors at Los Altos. Not having Amat work with these kids for three years and then manipulate the families into transferring over to LA. The whole infrastructure of LA is tore apart. These freshman kids that went 9-1 this year know that they don't have much of a chance to play varsity. Why, because they know that Gano is going to recruit kids their senior year to replace them. Gano has zero confidence in his own system. I went through Los Altos starting offense and about ½ the team is transfers and or out of area kids. That is just of the kids that I know of Nick Longoria, Mc-bride, Ortiz, Lamb chop, and Tamsyo. These are just the kids I know of. There are three kids on that starting offense that I know of that are from Hacienda La Puente School District, what a joke.

That’s why so many people call Gano a recruiter not a coach. His whole system is based on recruiting kids to play Varsity ball. If I had a child I would never send him to LA as a freshman. I would send him to another school like BA. Then have him transfer into LA to get a Varsity position.

What is really sad about this is all these kids buy into LA’s program as freshman and they work their way through the system holding onto a dream. Gano has no problem smashing that dream with one of his recruits. Gano has zero loyalty to the kids in the LA program. He is all about winning at any cost. Think about this what if your son was that backup quarterback his junior year. His senior year he is going to be the starting quarterback at Los Altos. Then Gano decides to recruit a junior quarterback. But the only way the deal can be completed is if the junior quarterback gets to start every game and play the whole first half. Now how would you feel if that senior quarterback was your son?

To the bickering between Los Altos fans, I do not understand the Gano slam on recruiting and trying to get the school in a position to get another championship. If those recruits are not there, what do you have, a worse season. When Bryce McBride was on a roll everyone was into it, when he went down along with Rodriguez and others everyone had to jump on someone for the losses aka, Tamayo the QB (everyone loves to blame the QB) Gano the Coach (everyone loves to blame the coach), fact of the matter is you were done in by injuries and that is part of the game, those injuries do not happen and guess what, your team is playing Friday. As far as Amat they played their season and got in with some tough teams and were doomed from the beginning with all the transfers etc.(blame Verti why his talent did not match up to the powers of the Serra League Monsters ND and Crespi) The weird thing is Amat would be playing in the playoffs if those transfers played for Amat this year (excluding Dorian Wells because of his situation being what it is.)Henson (WC) Bonilla (CH) Tamayo,McBride,Tillis, Ortiz (Los Altos) Andrew Loya (Charter Oak). Out of all these players Wells and Loya will get their time in the Quarter finals and maybe a championship run, but Henson and WC will go out in the first round and The Los Altos bunch and Kevin Bonilla are all at home like the Amat players and will be watching from the stands. All that transfer BS made no sense because most are in the same boat as the Amat players, sitting at home. Should have stayed at Amat.

Anonymous

You are right that you can call yourself what ever you like, this format allows for that. The rest of us are then free to infer from it what WE want. I choose to infer that you are the product of some inferior high school without any atheletic tradition and because of your jealousy, you are compelled to post some very stupid things.

LA's athletic history is legendary, and Gano is a large part of that history. As long as he has gone about the tradition of winning within the rules, then all the opinions you can muster amount to squat. You have charges to bring about any illegality he may have commited, lets hear them. If not, well feel free to keep hiding behind your silly anonymity moniker and spouting your unsubstantiated gibberish.

Your opinion is worthless.

"I can call myself jack the ripper, what does that mean."

It means Conq'76 has some history and credibility here, unlike some malicious backbiting cowardly liars I can name.

Or can't name.

"What I am tired of seeing is a LA team with all that talent and lack of leadership and coaching."

Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions, I suppose. Myself, I always marvel how much this supposed "talent" is a bunch of undersized kids playing way over their heads, but whatever floats your worldview.

"What year did LA win its last league title; I think it was 03’, the year of Brigham."

Actually they tied for the league title in '04. So what? A medium-sized public school in a league with four other strong programs doesn't dominate -every- year... sheesh string up the coaches now!

"Your fearless leader aka Gano will sell his mother to bring a kid into your program. "

Yes, apparantly he has a bizzare preference for undersized quarterbacks that are notoriously slow to throw.

"The QB spot, everyone knows that Gano made a deal with the family to get that QB from BA."

Apparantly everyone except Gano, the QB, the family, everyone who knows Gano, the Tribune, the Times, and CIF.

But you already know what oriface you talk from when you spew this BS, no? What a chicken{BLEEP}.

Or maybe not. Prove me wrong. Make your "evidence" public, get Gano fired, and be a hero to the Los Altos program. C'mon... put up, or please shut the hell up.

"Keep in mind that this kid won a very competitive spot with two other kids that were a close second."

Seriously, have you seen the other LA QB's throw?

"got so bad that Gano’s staff was all over him to start another kid"

I can confirm that this Never Happened.

"This was Gano’s worst season at LA and LA’s worst season in decades on."

I agree it was a pretty miserable season.

Your astonishing ignorance about the LA program and your obsessive vendetta against Gano make you seriously unqualified to point fingers and lay blame, though.

"Then one of your have the balls to say this was one of Gano’s best coaching years to coach a team that lost three key players."

One poster had an opinion. Boo hoo.

Personally, I don't think this is one of Gano's better coaching years (try 2000 or 2002). But there is a level of adversity that no team or coach can overcome...

The three season-ending bone breaks get all the press. The fact that seven of the eight members of the Varsity O-line rotation PLUS the two best JV callups all missed games due to injury this season barely gets mentioned. And all these guys play both ways.

"Look at the program over at Wilson, they don’t have half the talent that LA has, but they have heart. That is why they are in the playoffs and LA is watching."

Whoa, and I could have sworn they went 1-3 on the field and got in on a forfeit and a coinflip or something.

Conq76,

You go by a screen name; I can call myself jack the ripper, what does that mean.

What I am tired of seeing is a LA team with all that talent and lack of leadership and coaching. What year did LA win its last league title; I think it was 03’, the year of Brigham.

Your fearless leader aka Gano will sell his mother to bring a kid into your program. Once that kid is in the program there is no competition for his spot. The real issue is when he recruits a kid and he doesn’t deserve to start. Well this year you found out what happens.

The QB spot, everyone knows that Gano made a deal with the family to get that QB from BA. Gano swore up and down that their was going to competition for the job. While people like me said, no way that kid is the starting QB he is one of Gano’s recruits. Sure enough he gets the starting job has a terrible game, and another, and another, and another, and another, etc. Keep in mind that this kid won a very competitive spot with two other kids that were a close second. It got so bad that Gano’s staff was all over him to start another kid, no Gano stuck with his recruit. This was Gano’s worst season at LA and LA’s worst season in decades on. When was the last time that LA doesn’t win a single league game and ends the season with a 4-6 record on a five game losing streak? Then one of your have the balls to say this was one of Gano’s best coaching years to coach a team that lost three key players. A running back that you didn’t have until Gano recruited, a TD/DE and I believe OG/DT. When you start losing these players Gano coached your team to a 1-6 record, yea great job.

Bottom line let the kids win or lose their spots on the field not with these recruiting deals and close door arrangements with booster parents and coaches. That is why the program is where it is today. The kids aren’t dumb, they see what is going on and it does affects their play on the field. Look at the program over at Wilson, they don’t have half the talent that LA has, but they have heart. That is why they are in the playoffs and LA is watching.

I was at the N-view vs B.P. freshman game and was expecting a great game amongst two 4-0 teams. What I saw was a great B.P. freshman team. That team was big, fast and real physical. They literally had our players hurt the entire 4th qtr.
Congrats to the freshman team at B.P. I've noticed that coach has been there a while and he does a great job..congrats to b.p. again

Covina Dad

There was not a kid playing jv fri that has not played jv already this year and last week when we lost to bp. Tell your kid to get better. By the way its jv. There isnt even an official league champ. Its like a saturday game for varsity. Just for fun. sorry your not having any.

JV team.

Aaron Harris went to Fulerton JC

Does anybody know what happened to last years running back from BP (Aaron Harris)? Was he recruited anywhere?

I like it that many of the Amat Alums keep interested in the current status of the school - it adds to the tradition that makes the school more than just grades 9-12. Thanks for your loyalty. I'm glad your experience finds true and constructive criticism for the staff & I hope it helps the school & the football program.

I prefer to build up the kids rather than tear them down & while I'm not related to the quarterback (Lenhart) I will give him credit for all the heart he showed this year. During the football camp, he was running windspints at the end of practice & I didn't see any other kid join him. He was sacked a lot this year & jumped back up every single time to hustle to the side line & get another play from Verti (why Verti has him run an extra few hundred yards a game is beyond me). He played his best every game & did it with a positive attitude. As for his walking around at the end of the game Friday night, maybe it had something to do with his grandfather being taken away from the stands in an ambulance during the game. I hope the kid comes back next year & shows more leadership & not the trash talking, hyper-celebration type of behavior we get from too many teams we've seen.

Our tradition is better than that ... steadfast, loyal, and true!

Well Upland it is! I was guessing Santiago (wild card) or Upland (assuming they were labled #3 out of the Baseline, which I didn't know until today). Etiwanda gets Santiago, who's one tough wild-card!. In Upland we should see a very athletic team who has some very good wins. I liked what I heard from my Bro...CO. Interesting that we get the "other" team that put a blemish on CO's record as well. Not going to bring THAT debate up again, but rather wish the Chargers luck and say that I believe they have a chance to run the table. Yes, I've said El Do looked to be the better team in my eyes, but that doesn't mean they are unbeatable. We definately should have given them a better game, but they are very solid and don't seem to make mistakes. Well that's a few weeks away though, no point goin there. Just like I'm not (trying) looking at the potential matchup for us the next week (Cor. Cent.?). No, No. Upland and Upland only. The Highlanders and the Tartans bring their "colors" to Citrus Stadium. Our D will be "blanketing" their run & pass game while our improving O will attempt to make their skirts fly. Come on boys, first goal (winning league) accomplished, now go get that 2nd goal of winning that first playoff game. Do that and you truely are a special team in the Glendora history books. Then we can talk about next...oops, not yet.

Hey Amat Guy,

Yes I have donated for many years and I have spoken to coaches as well. I have attended Booster Club meetings to find Msgr. Carroll asking for more and more donations for the gym. And these are put to a vote with pressure from the AD at approximately $10,000.00 per year. I have seen the supposed President try to get money for the gym, this should have been paid if he was doing his job as outlined. He is the financial leader of the school. Heck Coke-Cola has offered to sponsor the scoreboards at approximately $25,000.00 each and that was shot down because we don't want to have a product in the gym, thats understandable. But you tell me why this proud school wrapped around tradition does not have the Alma Mater in the gym. Well Msgr. Carroll has been adament about this and said that it was not in the old gym, now all you alumni think back, we all beg to differ on this. These kids do not even know the Alma Mater.

I watched last year as this coaching staff was arrainged when verti took over and I said than that he needed some old crusty coaches like a Rogers or Woods type to instill some of the traditions. I am not against giving someone a chance but I will not sit back and say nothing when I see Amat being embarassed these kids do not deserve it and Verti has continued to lead them into games unprepared.

Best of luck to my Amat Brothers and yes Verti is an Amat brother but every family needs to put a brother in his place from time to time. He did a great job as offensive cordinator maybe that is where he should be. Head coaches have that little extra thing that not all coaches have and I have not seen that leadership these past two years. Congrats on beating Loyola but do not sit back and say it was a good year.

Msgr. Carroll must go!!!!!!

BP'r at November 11, 2007 12:53 PM

Hey Classless

At least were playing somebody! Clearly the tuffest game anybody in the SGV will face first round!

SD good luck with oak christian...what day two weeks from now r you guys turning in your uniform?

Servite Pride,

I guess I have to spell it completely out for you. The Los Altos at Charter Oak game in October, 2002 was on Fox West 2. I should know I covered that game.

Went to the Amat-Loyola game, and first thing I noticed is the empty parking lots void of pre-game camaraderie an tailgaters. How sad. Entered the stadium and noticed a huge absence of loyal supporters. The so called fans I sat next to were like sitting next to a corpse and unemotional as a door knob. No school spirit. Just plain dead. The mood was somber, uneventful even in victory. Now I have seen first hand evidence of the damage Carroll, Manzo and Verti has inflicted on this once proud tradition. The new parents have no clue of what this tradition means, when I overheard one parent tell a visibly upset fan "that it's okay to have losing season". Such complacency. It's tantamount to saying it's okay that my kid is flunking out of school. To be the best, you must think and be the best and not accept mediocrity.

Now venting fans and long time supporters will now have two reasons not to attend future Amat games, one is no one cares to see Verti's disgraceful performance and second it is nearly impossible to watch the games sober now that Msgr Carroll took away all the fun from the tailgate parties.

sramirez..I forgot that episode of Cops. Sorry

Anonymous at November 11, 2007 8:22 AM

Here's another great football quote LOL

Plaiddy, thanks for the thoughts. We do seem to have the Cubs number for some reason, year after year. They, also, are in a tough position after losing a legendary coach. I do find it interesting that the Loyola fan that has visited here to pop off at times throughout the season is no where to be found!

I've refrained from posting a bit because, frankly, I've said my piece and those that matter know how I feel as well. However you can see the overwhelming sentiment on the board. I feel that things will work themselves out shortly. We are not that far away from getting back on track.

Anonymous

I do not know what your problem with LA is, but it is obvious you are taking something personal and it is clouding your objectivity. Did Gano sleep with your mom or something?! Geez!

As to what LA has done since 2003, I go all the way back to last year where they went to the Semi's and got beat by ELDO 14-7 in a very hard fought game.

So, go ahead, be a Conq hater, your opinion, slanted and inaccurate as it is, simply illustrates the idea that years and years of success by one program will develop acute jealousy in others.

By listing yourself as anonymous, not even touching on which school you attended, tells me you have no pride in your alma mater. Probably went to "Valley" or some other "contination" school! LOL!

South Hills Huskies C.I.F. Champs in 2007!

Your funny! Wrong. But funny! Huskies stink. You can't even compete in your own simple league.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 11, 2007 6:57 AM

You may think it's funny that we believe we can win CIF but South Hills doesn't. As to not competing in our own simple league, Well, This years Championship is our sixth or seventh straight Championship. This years cumulative League score was 162 - 51 (23 against our starters).

covina dad

sorry, yeah, that happens, always has..not fair for these boys who play all year, then get thrown to the side for a "win"...i've see several schools do that, so don't think it's only covina....

When 3 teams share the VVL title, it shows you how mediocre the football season was. Unfortnunately, I don't see any VVL team advancing in the playoff's this year.

Can't wait for next year! It just has to be better!

Good luck though.

just a quick comment on the BA tranfers

if a couple of them would have went to there respected schools instead of LA they would be going to the playoffs instead of watching at home or in the stands. (watching who you say!)

West Covina LOL

Congrats to all the teams in the east valley. Good luck W C Bulldogs,

as for the CO and SH going to the championship game. there are some teams in the division to watch out for,,, El Dorado and Trabuco Hills

Good luck !

South Hills Huskies C.I.F. Champs in 2007!

Your funny! Wrong. But funny! Huskies stink. You can't even compete in your own simple league.

What happend to all those LA Fans, and the CIF playoffs. Well now we know how well Gano can coach when he isn't given an Allstar team. By the way what has Gano done since 03'. I don't see any Brigham's or Cody's in your farm system, looks like your are going to have to start coaching.

Ha Gano I heard that those Pop Warner Coaches over at Wilson are having a coaching clinc. I'am sure if I talk to them they will drop the price for you.

LA

Servite Pride,

Charter Oak has been on Fox..check the records

CO Bro
You are a little fish in a little pond. Stay in your puddle and dont try to comprehend a program like Servites. What a ego you have. CO will never be on Fox.. Get It?

CO Bro
Its called personality. You wouldn't know about that,since your coach is king of the zombies.

Anyone see the Mater Dei / Servite game on fox last night? Di you see the Servite head coach Thomas come on the field with his players? What the hell was that all about? Jumping, shadow boxing...WTF!

Dan, your rankings are right on! West Covina would beat D.R. I seen them play Los Altos a week or so after South Hills beat Los Altos. Good luck in CIF those Bulldogs will surprise them!

I forgot to mention something earlier in my post...i noticed Nick Lenhart walking around the field with his helmet off when the game was over as if he was looking for some sort of recognition for his performance....what was that about? that reminded me of Verti walking off the field as if he's proud of his performance. Lenhart, good job last night but i wouldnt walk around proud of your season. You guys were horrible and it starts with your coach. Mnsgr. needs to hire someone with experience at the coaching job and man up and pay the money that the coaches that are applying are asking for.....Amat, i wish you guys luck in the future but if Verti is still coaching...i'm not going to another game.Some of you may think that i'm running my mouth...but its for good reason. apparently many other supporters feel the same way and you can tell in this season attendance....Its nothing like Amat in my heyday...Sad...very sad.

Just to set the record straight, Baldwin Park didn't win the toss, Northview lost it.
I talked to Northview AD Ron Rice on the phone last night and he said that in the VVL, the odd coin of the three-way flip is eliminated and the remaining two teams in the deadlock go to the head-to-head tiebreaker.
Under those rules, Northview goes to third and Baldwin Park gets No. 1 by virtue of its win over San Dimas.
But like has also been said, all three are league champions and deserve to wear a ring.

Heard some of you bloggies are ready to throw the baby out with the bath water...YOU'RE WEAK! Here's a better plan, why don't we sit back and see what the CIF deals us and then deal with it. We come ready to do battle, mentally and physically...we have every chance in the world of making heads turn. You non-believers think otherwise, don't bother showing up this Friday at Citrus. Better yet, save your money for laundry day.

PLAID LAD

Wow, Glendora fans surrendering and will even declare their Division is too much of a challenge and would like to play in a Division they can compete in like the Southwest. Then again you're probably right since you already were beat by the #1 and #2 seeds in that Division and would go in as a non seed in that Division too. South Hills and probably Trabuco Hills both beat you too! Are you already conceding defeat and implying that you cannot win a C.I.F. Championship in your Division. I guarantee you South Hills and Charter Oak contend in your Division or at the very least don't get intimidated by competition. Glendora fans whine, complain, and now are making excuses! Oh yeah, and would not renew their contract with Charter Oak. I would suggest that you replace them with South Hills but I already hear your head coach and fans having something to say about that too. Mike the Clone and PLAID LAD how do you coexist and tolerate these people like you do EVERYDAY..!

Dorian Wells for President!

Dan

From your mouth to CIF's ears! That would be nice. Because I truly feel, with teams like Corona, Redland East Valley, etc., It would be actually impossible for any of our local teams to advance. I mean nobody! These teams are the best in the state. Glendora would be a better fit in the Southwest for sure. I believe Glendora, CO and South Hills are very competitve among themselves. Corona and Redland EV would do very well in the Pac 5. Somehow, its almost unfair that our teams must compete with that caliber.

There is no hope at all for a Inland Division CIF title unless you believe in magic.

Anonymous 11/10 at 2:09,

I agree 100% that Glendora is in a much tougher division than the SouthWest, Corona Centennial & Redlands East Valley are monsters this year, and besides that all the others in the Inland top ten
are very good teams, there is no easy game in that division. I would rather see Glendora and the Sierra league in the Southwest division, that
would be a better fit in my eye's.

BP'r at November 10, 2007 3:53 PM

First of all, a coin flip doesn't measure crap on a football field. Secondly because you won the flip doesn't have anything to do with where you finished in league, only where you are paired in playoffs. Guess what NV and SD wasn't lucky, there co-champs and that's a fact jack!

In matter of fact stats and overall records played a role in SD being ranked higher than you in CIF polls. Then when the dust settled, your offense ending up fourth behind NV & Covina and defense second behind SD. You can take those numbers to the bank.........

Better think real hard what a #1 seed could bring you in first round. Do some homework, then check back in..

Thanks to Who rules, really put it into prepective!

bp fan, sorry for the error. do you know who won between sd jv and cov jv? you seem to be the one following all of the games.. if not, does anyone know? how about a saints fan? did cov jv really not use the regular jv players and is that normal at times? AND YES, IM GLAD THE SAINTS ARE CHAMPS WITH BP AND NV!!

BP FAN... i know you probably have the answer. do you know who won the bp jv game against cov jv? i heard that covina wanted the win so bad that they had their varsity players playing the game and had the regular jv on the sidelines. is that true and does that happen usually

If the game of football is all about inches and coin-flips then your stats are meaningless. SD and NV were lucky to be part of our loss. Otherwise you would have nothing to say. Ok we lost, but when it counted the coin-flip came down to three teams and a one in three to sit as the top seed in our league. We finished first, and SD finished second with NV third. Maybe the CIF should have used a two sided coin to make things even for ya saints. BP Rules!

WHATSEASONAREYOUWATCHN

You complain with solution of FIRING everyone at Amat. What a great idea. If that was to happen what HS Admin staff and or what popular named football coach would want to come to Amat, knowing that the parents, and fans were as negative as you?

Here's a challenge to you john:

Get you and your buddies to open up their pocketbooks and start handing out the scholarships like Mater Dei, O Lu and every other Pac 5 private. Until that happens, john, we are taking a knife into a gun fight.

"Grow, be Respectful, Good Leaders, Good Football Players, Good People, Good Team mates, Good Brother"

When have you shown any of those characteristics? Verti's not your brother? He's an Amat Lancer, a brother in our great Football Fraternity. That team and staff needed our support and you tore them down after every loss. Those coaches have taught our sons some great life lessons but you wouldn't know. Ever been to a lineman dinner this year? Ever talk to a coach instead of getting info second hand.

Whatever changes are made this year I'm going to stand behind them. Like my parents taught me, Like my Amat coaches taught me.

Amat this year has been a disgrace. for verti to say that he beleives they did well all year is hilarious. Verti needs to grow some balls and leave the school. he is bringing the program down and down...even worse than when the previous coach left. The season was real bad and with Verti leading them they are never going to improve. Being an alumni, was embarrassing as i watched our once strong, proud program being run by a damn rookie. yeah, its his 2nd year only but the program doesnt need to start "fresh" so to speak, they need leadership from an experienced coach. Fire Verti, Msngr. retire and the school will be back at the top. Guaranteed.

BP''r at November 10, 2007 1:31 PM
You SURELY didnt know what its all about last night.. LOL

The research speaks fo itself.. You just can't expect the truth and factual data

Oh now, you're bringing up CIF after the league smack doesn't work anymore.

NEXT ?

Dan

I'm not sure which team had greater yardage that night, but the score was tied with 22 seconds left. The Tartans DB made 1 wrong choice and dropped his coverage on a trick play. If he hadn't done that, the game would have ended with a tie. No matter how you look at it, the game was a battle. I think both teams are equal. The Tartans played a rougher schedule than CO according to Calpreps and Maxpreps.

CO will do very good in CIF. Their division is much easier than the Tartans division. If you don't think so, name me one team which would compete with Corona Cenntinal (top 5 in the State), Norco, VM, etc...

Good luck to all our teams

BP'r/BP FAN... YOU ARE STILL CLASSLESS AND I LOVE IT!!! no matter what anyone tells you, you are still the same and that is something to really be ashamed about. GOOD LUCK TO THE BP PLAYERS AND ALL OTHER SGV TEAMS HEADING INTO CIF..

Who Rules, definitely not you. Your SD research means nothing at this point. Time to act like you know what it means to be a team about to enter the CIF playoffs. We know what it is all about. Visit our trophy case or better yet there is some useful research for ya. BP Rules!

Varsity players that are moved down to play at the JV level is not uncommon at all. Look, I realize that it does not sound fair to replace certain starters at the JV level with Varsity players but the fact remains that each program is grooming only one level of competition and that is VARSITY, and not the JV or Freshman levels. Parents and players that have this notion that there lower levels of play are more important then there Varsity just do not understand what winning at the upper level means. My point is best illustrated when the head varsity coach brings up a Freshman or Sophomore to gain experience under the big lights and talents offered on Friday night. You want your JV's to get the starting time they deserve then encourage them to play hard so they can earn a spot to move up to play varsity.

BP'r at November 10, 2007 11:21 AM Or BP Fan

Probably the same guy. I was just sitting back waiting for the talk to start again from BP

Now let’s lay out the facts and the stats. As I mentioned before, BP came on the blog talking smack for weeks about how they were the best defense and team in SGV. Then, did a little back tracking and claimed to be best team and defense in VVL.

We’ll it didn’t show last night and the year end put you in a tie for first, fourth best offense, and second best defense. END OF STORY!

Here are the facts for you to chew on over the weekend, digest them and taste a little humble pie:

Listed in order of performance:

League PA
SD-49/9.8 points per game
BP-72/14.4 per game
NV-80/16 per game
CV-133/26.6 per game
League PF
SD-169/33.8 per game
NV-136/27.2 per game
CV-131/26.2 per game
BP-127/25.4 per game

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS GO VIKINGS!!!!

Tommy Tartan,
I wasn't at the game, but didn't C.Oak out gain the Tartans yardage wise by a pretty good margin?
Also didn't they play better "D" that night then the Tartans? If so then, it wasn't just the one trick play that made the difference right? I also
think at this time C.Oak is just more explosive on
offense at this time, they have to much speed.
I could see Glendora edging out South Hills if they played but I think it would be a tight game,
that could go the other way too.
We'll never know, either way I think all three of those teams are excellent and I wish Glendora luck with your first round draw.
PS, I heard that West Co might be playing Glendora next year have you heard anything about this? I think it would be a great game.

ok every one i would like to see peoples opinions on whos the best qb in the VVL and who is the first team all leguer.IS it Olivas, Salciedo, or Robles. Ive watched everyone play and Heres my notes.....

Olivas.... great athlete and plays with alot of heart. Is a good fit for that spread offense as a runner. But doesnt have the arm nor the accuracy as a prototipical passer. Great heart and great kid though.

Salciedo..... Good arm and buys himself time in the pocket.Unlike Olivas and robles salciedo is protected great by maybe one of the biggest and best lines in the valley. But he also has that angel kid thats a great playmaker for him. I dont think he will do that great next year when all that help is gone.

Robles....So muchhype on this kid in the preseason. It was ashame to hear that this kid had a severe ankle injury in the first game. Maybe thats why he wasnt very effective this season.Tough kid though played with heart through out the whole sason fighting injury.But botom line he got the job done

Anonymous at November 10, 2007 9:59 AM

Understand what a coin flip represents.. LOL

Mclovin.. what do you mean that nv won bp by 2 points. the final score was nv 28 to bp 19.. the nv scored again towards the end of the game

Come on Covina, let them play

Covina Coaches,

Totally classless having all those varsity players play in the JV game yesterday. What kind of signal does that send to all the other players in the program. Let them learn and get better! Don't just push many of the regular JV starters to the side, and basically tell them they're not good enough. Program here seems to be taking a turn for the worse.

Covina Dad

ok bloggers

NV beat BP fair and square...but dont think that BP was the only team talking trash.

it was a bad game for both teams. BP had like 3 turnovers and NV still managed to beat them by only 2-points. but it was BP that hurt themselves. the energy from their team was gone both on and off the field. i know that some players still kept fighting to the end but some starters had simply given up! their body language said it all coming on and off the field and in and out of the huddle.

all i could say is congrats to NV...
and BP better not come out and play like this next week in CIF Playoffs or say goodbye to their season

BP'r aka BP FAN,

Just stating my opinion, and by the looks of it many agree. You are entitled to yours even if it is wrong. As for CIF, maybe we won't go very far, you think you will? Good luck in CIF scoring 10 points a game!!

COVINA DAD.. you mean to say that covina had their varsity players playing the jv game? were they also using the varsity starters? and was it worth it to the coaches, who end up winning the game?

As an outsider looking in for a change, here is my opinion on VVL 1-3:

SD- Too Much Firepower, still can't see how they lost to BP.

NV-A lot of Talent, just seem not to show up all the time.

BP-Toughness is obvious, overall talent not there.

Also, to Covina DAD:

I did hear something about more Varsity players coming down for the jv game. I guess coaches want to win, but doesn't seem fair to the regulars. Take the W!! Let's come back strong next year.

SD you have no claim coming on this blog bragging about your the best in our league. IF you would have come out and beat everyone in league you'd have something to talk about, but that did not happen did it. We will see just how perfect your season is when the CIF match-up's are posted. Get ready to pack the bus again for a long ride to a bruising loss. GO BP!

FredJ,
Can you please enlighten us on Thursday night's game? You were on the sidelines for the game. Is Charter Oak that good or is Diamond Ranch not that good? Just seemed kind of bizarre to me when I opened the paper and saw the score. You saw South Hills play last week and have seen Glendora play several times how about with a less than politically correct opinion like your articles telling us some "insider" perspective on really what goes on inside every program. Why do you really feel their rankings are in the order they are in 1, 2, and 3 because everyone else’s judgment seems to be biased, one-sided, partial and subjective and instead you can give us a complete, objective, professional, and qualified view? You’re the authority let’s hear the scoop!

David,

I think that's a good assessment. Even though I really enjoy watching this Saints team, I am a football fan first. The Saints are the best team in the league. BP Fan can talk all he wants(And look what it got him), but the real football people on here know the truth. Good Luck to all in the VVL!

I agree witht the notion that if SD played BP again, SD would come out on top. They're really just a better ball club. While BP has the heart, they are definitely outmatched talent wise. Their heart seems to wear out as soon as they realized their outmatched. And, although I bleed Black and Gold, I don't think we have enough to take us far into the playoffs. I'm just being honest. Here are my rankings among the three teams:
1. San Dimas
2. Northview
3. Baldwin Park

Then again, what do I know? I'm just a lonely blogger =(

Coach M,

Great Job keeping Damien together after a tough Ayala loss. Congrats on winning 3 straight to get in to the playoffs. Keep up the moment.

Covina Coaches,

Totally classless having all those varsity players play in the JV game yesterday. What kind of signal does that send to all the other players in the program. Let them learn and get better! Don't just push many of the regular JV starters to the side, and basically tell them they're not good enough. Program here seems to be taking a turn for the worse.

Covina Dad

Hey Guys,

There's a good chance Chino Hills might make the playoffs as a 6-3-1 At Large. Take a look at the other leagues in there division. They look the best out of all of them. Keep your fingers crossed Huskies. Can we say Corona Centennial?

Just saying that if SD played BP again, we win by 14 points. Top to bottom Saints are a better team!! Had a bad game first time around, it happens, wouldn't happen again!!

BP FAN.. as i recall you said that if nv won that you would come on blog and give an apology.

Great game last nite to BP AND NV!!!

Notes on Amat

Finally a game in which everything went our way. The calls, the fumbles and the execution was the best it had been all year. To see this team do all the right things in this, the last game of the year, made you feel good, but somehow, it left you with that empty feeling. To little, to late.

It was interesting in the stands last night, in that, I keep hearing this guy pleading over and over about how he wished that we could, at least, get in one league win this year. He got his wish I suppose.

As for the empty stands, well, last night there were about as many people at the game as there have been, all year long. It was nice to see everyone there for senior night, and I believe that if it were not for that special event, that there would not have been as many people at the game.

Did anyone happen to notice? Verti finally made a decision to open it up on the offensive end. The team showed its ability to give different looks (especially on third and fourth downs) and they actually spread the ball around a lot last night. The defense had its best game of the year, and the offense completed some tough third down conversions. Wagner did play last night, but you could see that he was hurting.

BTW, that same guy in the stands that was pleading for a win last night also made the same comments that Verti made about having a lot of returning sophomores (etc) next year. The only problem with that, is that ND and Crespi are going to be very good next year to !! And if we gauge the JV’s performance this year, and project it out to next, then it’s gonna be another long season.

It is also interesting to read “johns” post regarding the quotes from Verti. He really did paint a far rosier picture than what is in fact the truth. I mean, come on. Ya just can’t make silly comments like that and expect people to believe what you just said. Credibility is an issue here. John is right of course in his observation. We defiantly need to get some key position players on this team for next year. For what it worth, I don’t think the Monsignor is going anywhere soon, nor do I think Verti is either. So, there is a reality that has to set in here folks.

how can u say SD is the best team in our league when we shared a three ring championship. SD your still not our best because BP won the coin flip. Ur second in league and that is all and not expected by any of us to go any further than that

RobertK,

I agree with you about this SD team. I believe this team gave up the least amount of points in the valley. We should have quite a few 1st team all leaguers. Offensively, with the exception of one bad game, this team has been blowing teams out. A share of the league title feels good, but no doubt we are the best team in the league this year. Good luck in the Playoff Saints, you have a lot of support from the community!

☭ at November 10, 2007 9:37 AM

Who do you represent?

Let us guess LOL

il like to add that all those valle vista teams will go one and done. and ill put my money on it

CONGRATS SAINTS FOR A WELL DESERVED SHARE OF TITLE, Time to pull up your boots and go kick some CIF butt now! You should be proud of that rock wall of a defense and the bust it in your face front line making holes on offense. This has been the most fun that I have had watching a high school football team since my Gladiator team of 1978. The Bash Brothers ( Bronze & Kyle Withem ) should easily be All League selections on defense this year. Nico is an animal proving his value week in and week out going both ways for the Saints. I have enjoyed watching the coaching staff make some great play calls and you can see the confidence growing every week. GOOD LUCK , NOW BRING IT HOME !!!

Fredj

Oh well, it must have gotten lost in the thread-spinning world of cyber-space.

In short...Congrats to Amat on your victory...be patient...build from here in preparation for 2008.

PLAID LAD

Plaid Lad, I never deleted anything. I stayed in last night, wasn't feeling very good. Just woke up to update this thing this morning.

Fredj

Whats-up buddy? My last post was addressed to J.Amat and company with words of encouragement following their victory over the Cubs, and you boys bleeped it from posted print. Please tell me the Tribune is not profiling bloggies that try to respond to certain regulars on this site. If so it's unfortunate that certain individuals had to ruin it for the masses.

PLAID LAD

Congratulations to all the teams from the SGV advancing into the playoffs!
Glendora
Damien
Charter Oak
Bonita
Wilson
South Hills
West Covina
Rowland
Sout El Monte
Rosemead
Arroyo
Baldwin Park
San Dimas
Northview
La Puente
Duarte
Azusa
Sierra Vista
18 schools from the east side of the valley. Good luck in your perspective divisions.

How does it feel to wake up Valle Vista League Champs Vikings!?!
You were CHAMPS on the field and you Viking Fans in the stadium were CHAMPS!! Very proud to say I'm a Viking Fan!

North Who? NORTHVIEW THAT'S WHO! in OUR HOUSE!
Congratulations to the Seniors! Way to go out!

BP FAN WITH THE MOST SMACK TALK FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS!

Your lesson here is that you never under estimate any opponent, because what goes around comes around!

The facts are the Northview defense caused the turnovers and capitalized on them.

The season league stats will show you Northview defense PA is 80 and BP 72. Wow, what a statically stats to overlook. Didn't you say earlier in your weekly crap, “We don’t care about stats, we just do it on the field”. We'll stats don't lie and play a big part in RESPECTING your opponent, because just some day, ANYBODY CAN BEAT ANYBODY ON ANY GIVEN THURDAY OR FRIDAY NIGHT….

This post is intended just for you sir, and not the rest of BP fans or players. Just maybe you should have listened to BRAVETOWN……..

Amat beats Loyola, 3-7 overall 1-2 in League. Verti's statement about playing good in the paper. (except for the 2nd half against Crespi and the 1st half against Notre Dame, I thought we played well all year) Well Crespi lit you up in the second half and Notre Dame played their 2nd and 3rd teams the second half that still does not excuse a 3-7 year. And for his last comment. (We have all of our defensive backs returning. On offense, we have a lot of three-year starters, and that's certainly something to build on for next year), didn't I hear that last year before the mass exodus. As an Alumni I am heartbroken to see what has become Amat football, the stands are empty, revenue is down. Time to make a change and do it early. I TIVO'd the Mater Dei vs Servite game, there was about 24000 fans at Anaheim Stadium. A comment that came from the Servite coach stuck with me and it is what an Amat coach should be instilling. He wants the most from his program for the kids to Grow, be Respectful, Good Leaders, Good Football Players, Good People, Good Team mates, Good Brothers and one day to turn out to be good Husbands and Fathers. Now he has his priorities straight he is instilling what Amat Football used to be about. Than at the end of the game John Jackson (Amat Alumni) was being ribbed by his counter part (Crespi Alumni) about Amat football. John Jackson commented that we are in a down period and he feels a change of the tide will be coming and stated that Amat needs to get those kids back from W.Covina and South Hills like we used to have.

Well JJ, help us out. The Alumni are the only ones that can make it happen. Msgr. Carroll must go and Verti needs to be replaced with a coach whose name will draw those players back to Amat. I firmly believe that Amat has the players to make a strong run in the near future but the leadership at the top is lacking.

Msgr. Carroll must retire!!!!!!!

Hey Ortega,

I said we blew it last night. Don't come here now talking loud you jerk! Remember SD put 35 on you. Stay humble like the rest of us!!

BP Fan can talk all he nonsense wants, but the reality is that his team got punched in the mouth last night by a better team. Hats off to both teams. They played hard but the better team won. This should be an interesting playoff series.

p.s. BP Fan, actually it's "OUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!" and we have the scoreboard to prove it.

Damien Fans

A tie with the best player taking some time off? Seems to me, you guys need alot more if you're going anywhere in the Sierra League.

Damien AD better get off the golf cart and start looking for a real coach! LOL

GHS bloggies stop picking the scab of the GHS and CO game. CO won anyway you look at it. CO & GHS were the better for it, as both of their end of season records reflect, two top seeded Champs in each of their leagues. GHS as well as CO, now must prepare for the tougher competition the CIF Playoffs has to offer. The mighty race to the top is not quite over..it's just begun.

FYI: Congrats to all...best wishes during play-off time.

PLAID LAD

We blew it last night, and I'm man enough to admit it! Good luck to VVL in the playoffs.

OUR HOUSE!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!To The Northview Football Team, Coaching Staff, Fans!!!Boosters! and Parents!!!! The video says it all.......

WHO'S HOUSE????????????????????????????

Anonymous at November 10, 2007 1:12 AM

I take issue with your statement that co is a better team then damien. how can you say that. co only tied damien on a head to head match. using co logic, that makes you equal to damien ,not better.

remember, co fans say if you win a head to head match, that makes you a better team.

breaking news

You know not what you speak. CO ties Damien (3rd place SL). Not a sign of a champ. EVERY ONE KNOWS the CO/Glendora game was really a battle. If you want to take pride and say you beat Glendora on 1 (one) play where the DB dropped a coverage on a TRICK play 22 seconds left, then go ahead and pat yourself on the back. Thats not the way I would want to win a rivalry game. You knocked out our game leading rusher with an injury. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR INCREDIBLE VICTORY AGAINST THE TARTANS. HEY, I WOULD BRAG ABOUT A VICTORY AGAINST THE SL CHAMPS AS WELL, NO MATTER HOW SHALLOW IT WAS! You CO fans are real pieces of work!

SCHMITZ 74,
Smitty, forget Dr. K... Frank is a wannabe. he thinks that the game is all about technique and has only a slight understanding of the science of it. He can "see" football but can't come close to being part of it. He (supposedly) offered his assistance to the school and was turned down. He had a relative who tried to make the team...Frosh and soph, but he was not a football player. He blamed the coaches who, in his mind, were too "stupid" to see how
great said relative was. He's a monday morning QB... with a hummingbird colon.

IN THE "YEAR OF THE TARTAN" YOU LOSE TO CO AND THEY FINISH # 1 IN THE VALLEY...O WELL ATLEAST U HAD THE MURRAY BROTHERS

i got to give to northview they came to play.

baldwin park was playing stupid football. the coaching staff was calling some not so smart plays.

when you have a kid like angel and an o-line with decent size you should try to pound the rock a little more.

good luck to sd and nv.
baldwin park keep your heads up and try to pass the first round not just one and done.

go braves.

So Sorry Tommy, Glendora is not a better team than CO, and either is West Covina or Damien

End of Story!

Whoever wrote the repeat about the "low tackles" is just trying to stir and old pot. Probably neither a CO or GL fan by the lack of class they displayed.

The blogger who said that the Tartans would likely be upset in the first or second round...uh...upset in the 2nd round? I've got news for you, if and when we get to the 2nd round we likely won't be the favorite. If so, just slightly...the division's a montster. Which leads me to your second point that Damien will likely surprise in CIF. Que!? Do you realize who they are going to get first round? and on the road? They will get to find out just "how hot" they are. I'm proud to see how they fought back after an 0-2 start in league, but let's get serious.

Dan, I (mostly) like your latest list. I do believe the Tartans are a better team than CO, but then again I'M A FAN. I don't, however, have a problem with the Chargers being #1 right now. I think even CalPreps now has them just above us because they played a stronger opponant (ratings wise) than we did last game. They took care of their business in league in convincing fashion as well, and they proved to be JUST better than us that night on the field. I do think the Miramonte has lost a little luster these last 2-3 weeks when you look at it. DR appears to not be as good as first thought (tough to overcome the issues) and LA, with a few key injuries, is just an decent team. So you've got CO and....Bonita who lost to San Dimas? and Wilson who's OK but just not a playoff type team. That said, I just can't see South Hills being #2 over Glendora even when I take off my rose-colored glasses. Look at their schedule (use calpreps) and the ranks of those teams. All their wins are against teams WITHOUT a winning record (Fullerton should be 5-5 w/o the forfiet) and teams that aren't rated that high. Their ONLY two chances to beat a team at the level of Glendora or Charter Oak...they lost. And their "big" win over Los Altos now looks just average. Their league is weak this year (I know you like WCov. but I'm not sure they make the playoffs in the Miramonte, even after what I just said...OK, over Wilson)...I'm sorry, I just don't see them with the top 2. Show me I'm wrong. Yes I know "they've made changes and have gone on a run since", but against who? Our offense and matured and improved a great deal too, and CO can say the same (and we both have quality wins to prove it). Again, not that this matters a whole lot now that it's CIF time! But it's fun fodder until Sunday morning rolls around. Late...no really, it's late.

Anonymous at November 9, 2007 11:55 PM

Great game tonight! You guys represented your school and fans very well tonight. It was alot of fun in the stands with your fans!

BP has talked some much crap the last couple of weeks. First the best defense and team in the valley, then the VVL, then would be sole champs in VVL. Quite frankly, NONE OF IT IS TRUE ON THE FIELD OR IN THE STATS!

I knew the Vikes could win this game, because the game you guys played against us wasn't your best game and the game we played against BP was our worst one.

We'll it goes to show everyone that the parity in this league stands.

Great job bringing the Braves down to earth. Maybe some of their (JERK BLOGGERS) are eating some heavy crow right now.

SAN DIMAS SAINTS>>> we are happy to win the game against BP. WE ARE GLAD FOR THE 3 WAY TIE, NOT BP HAVING ALL TO THEMSELVES. GO VIKINGS AND GO SAINTS.. GOOD LUCK IN THE PLAYOFFS!!

BP FAN at November 8, 2007 10:10 AM

Hey BP FAN:

Who put the hurt on who tonight? EAT SOME HEAVY CROW YOU TRASH TALKING PUNK!

Congrats to Bassett for putting together a complete game, especially against those Lobos.

Immune to Euthanasia,

Dont waste your time on Frank Corona. The man has no life and has been bashing Damien for a few years now on this blog. It's funny how much he hates the Damien football program yet he is at every game???? He's "nuts" dont waste your time on him, he is not worth it. Lets focus instead at how well the boys are playing right now. I agree with you the last four games they have really come together and have been playing really well. Morrison has done a great job after the Ayala game, the boys could have easily packed it in but instead they are playing their rear ends off with a big win over Chino Hills to keep their season alive. Thats the sign of a good coach, their backs were against the wall and they came out and played 3 great games to get into the playoffs. What more could you want.Good luck next week spartans!!!!!!!!

CO- THEY CANT PLAY REAL FOOTBALL LIKE MEN, THEY HAVE TO DIVE AT EVERYONES KNEES! PARENTS AND TEAMS ALL OVER KNOW CO FOR PLAYING DIRTY WHICH IS A SAD REPUTATION FOR THE BAD COACH AND LOUSY TEAM. GLENDORA WOULD MURDER CO!!!

CO- THEY CANT PLAY REAL FOOTBALL LIKE MEN, THEY HAVE TO DIVE AT EVERYONES KNEES! PARENTS AND TEAMS ALL OVER KNOW CO FOR PLAYING DIRTY WHICH IS A SAD REPUTATION FOR THE BAD COACH AND LOUSY TEAM. GLENDORA WOULD MURDER CO!!!

CO- THEY CANT PLAY REAL FOOTBALL LIKE MEN, THEY HAVE TO DIVE AT EVERYONES KNEES! PARENTS AND TEAMS ALL OVER KNOW CO FOR PLAYING DIRTY WHICH IS A SAD REPUTATION FOR THE BAD COACH AND LOUSY TEAM. GLENDORA WOULD MURDER CO!!!

Final Score in South El Monte, California....

SOUTH EL MONTE 52
EL MONTE 00

count that, from the last week and this week, SEMHS has scored 90(+) points and the opponents (Mountain View - El Monte) ZERO!

so that leaves SEMHS overall 6-4 (6 straight wins!!!!) and 5-0 in league.

Big thanks to Northview.We(San Dimas)couldnt be co Valle Vista champs with out your help.
Thanks again.

Congrats to my alma mater Bassett (c/o 88)on winning a game this year.

Anybody know the out come of the Pomona/Ganesha game?

Go Saints!!!
Go SD Band!!!

Don,

I enjoyed the game at Los Altos but I ended up eating at Tommy's in La Habra before I left the OC.

CO looks very tough. South Hills does also. Trabuco Hills is much better now then they were when they beat South Hills.

I sat behind some Wilson coaches at the El Do game tonight. I think Wilson thinks they will draw the Hawks in the first round. They left after the first half. They had seen enough.

BTW, it looks like Canyon will be the #2 seed out of the Century and Brea will be the #3

My guess is Brea will play South Hills in the first round.

JFR

The top 4 seeds will be El Do #1, CO #2, Trabuco Hills #3 and South Hills #4 Each of them will be in a different bracket. I see them wanting a El Do vs. South Hills Semi and a CO vs. Trabuco Hills Semi (just like last year)

Jhykron

They can be in the same side of the bracket as long as they don't play each other until the semi's

El Do should get Rowland in the 1st round

Dr. Kivorkian,

I'll try to keep this simple so you can understand it. Unfortunately, your rant may have been right on one thing: if Damien had lost to Chino Hills in a poor performance, Coach Morrison would likely have been removed from his football coaching responsibilities, quite inappropriately in my opinion. With one miraculous exception (Ayala, and Damien did actually outplay the Dogs that night, in all other measurable ways save "ScoreBoard!"), coach Morrison's teams have only been outplayed and outcoached ONCE in the last TWO years of Sierra League play - Glendora, at Citrus this year. Damien has played four straight solid contests, and the resiliency of the players after that Ayala loss only speaks volumes to the character of the staff, and players, that kept that team together. Damien parents have witnessed a team that has consistently and dramatically improved over the course of this season, so what exactly is it that you are trying to euthanize, besides your own reputation on this blog-site? Coach Pasquarella has done a fabulous job at Glendora, just like he did at Damien, and Ayala before then. But he is not at Damien anymore for valid reasons, and though the product on the field and certain decisions on the part of his replacement have baffled at times, the reasons why Pasq had to move on and Coach Morrison should stay, even if Damien had lost last night, are as plain as the egg on your face. Loose your arrogant, ill-conceived, and downright diabolical venom on your own ego.

Chino Hills, Chino, Diamond Bar, and Ayala for all but two minutes got "spanked" by Damien. It seems to this opinion that you were a bit premature in your pre-jaculations.

And any asshole that would bring high school kids' names into your rants is worthy of "water boarding", or isn't that torture in your opinion?

Eat your crow, deal with your "Hummingbird" colon, and fart yourself in some infinite direction.

Dr. Who Gives

Dr. K,

You must be a Damien parent...or faculty member.

Immune to euthanasia.

Sorry about the double love guys, the updates have me more mixed up than usual.

Benny Tone Deaf,

I suspect the Miramonte teams would be delighted with the Suburban League hookup. Bonita already played Canyon once and it wasn't pretty. As a 3 seed, whoever Wilson gets will be brutal. C O and S Hills can hang with their O C brethren, but round two will be the “cleansing”.

BTW, how was the trip to Los Altos? Directions? Dining? Always happy to have some O C dough on this side of the hill.

i think gilmore is an awesome player...but snowden has been unstopable

4 touchdowns aginst d ranch
200 yards on the ground aginst glendora

umm ok...

player of the year is easy...snowden

southwest divisoners please no one forget that mayfair was 10-0 and lost to wes co in the first round

and a few years ago tustin upset 10-0 orange lutheran...this things wide open if u ask me

Benny Tone Deaf,

I'm sure the Miramonte teams would be thrilled to get a straight Suburban League hookup.

Bonita played Canyon once already and I suspect they would rather not face a Century or Seaview team in round one. Wilson as a 3 seed is going to have problems no matter where they are placed.

BTW, how were the directions and dining suggestions for your Hacienda Heights visit a couple weeks back?

Benny Tone Deaf,

I'm sure the Miramonte teams would be thrilled to get a straight Suburban League hookup.

Bonita played Canyon once already and I suspect they would rather not face a Century or Seaview team in round one. Wilson as a 3 seed is going to have problems no matter where they are placed.

BTW, how were the directions and dining suggestions for your Hacienda Heights visit a couple weeks back?

Benny Tone Deaf:

Foothill and Trabuco will not be on the same side of the bracket. Nor will Mayfair and Bellflower.

More probably:

El Dorado
Artesia

Bonita
El Toro

Foothill
Bellflower

South Hills
Wilson

-

Trabuco Hills
El Modena

Mayfair
West Covina

Canyon
Rowland

Charter Oak
Norwalk

BTD,

You don't even have the top four in the correct bracket slots. Get it right buddy.

The Tartans are different team since your CO game. CO didn't have an easy time beating Glendora. Come on, 1 play where the DB dropped coverage on a trick play. You call that a legit win? Glendora only lost that game by 1 play and lost to a great EL DO team. Thats it all season. We saw your performance with Damien. The Tartans opponents Win - lose record is much better than CO's opponents. Stop with the "We beat you crap".

Dan

The Tartans are different team since your CO game. CO didn't have an easy time beating Glendora. Come on, 1 play where the DB dropped coverage on a trick play. You call that a legit win? Glendora only lost that game by 1 play and lost to a great EL DO team. Thats it all season. We saw your performance with Damien. The Tartans opponents Win - lose record is much better than CO's opponents. Stop with the "We beat you crap".

Dan

The Tartans are different team since your CO game. CO didn't have an easy time beating Glendora. Come on, 1 play where the DB dropped coverage on a trick play. You call that a legit win? Glendora only lost that game by 1 play and lost to a great EL DO team. Thats it all season. The Tartans opponents Win - lose record is much better than CO's opponents. Stop with the "We beat you crap".

Benny Tone Deaf,
Just wondering how you came up with your brackets,
what is the formula that cif uses to make up the brackets?

To anonymous at Nov.9 4:19pm,
You made me laugh, [with your "NO WAY DANNY" responce]
hey, I never said I wasn't biased, but I
really do feel the WC. Bulldogs would beat all the other teams I have below them, with the only question mark being D.Ranch, but with West Co playing improved ball as of late and D.Ranch not looking as good as before, I chose to rank the Bulldogs ahead of them.

...Anonymous

CO completely shut down Wilson and T.Gilmore.

I attended the game, final score 50-6.

Gilmore had about 40 yards...if that.

I didn't see him break any tackles that night.

~Football Jones

Oops!

It should be Foothill playing Wilson and Canyon or El Modena playing West Covina

Okay the brackets don't come out until Sunday but even with three spots still open for tonight's winners, here is my bracket for the Southwest Div.

El Do
Rowland Heights

Bellflower
Bonita

South Hills
Brea or Tustin (find out tonight)

Mayfair
El Toro

Charter Oak
Artesia or La Mirada (find out tonight)

Foothill
West Covina

Trabuco Hills
Norwalk

El Modena or Canyon (find out tonight)
Wilson

Dan at November 9, 2007 4:19 PM
A West Covina Fan with West Covina ranking

NO WAY DANNY!

I just want to Congradulate Charter Oak High School for a job well done all season long. You truly deserve to represent the Miramonte League in the upcoming playoffs. Your Team looked outstanding last night!Keep focused and Bring home a Championship.We at D.R. are dissappointed for the loss but now we encourage and support all 3 Miramonte League schools representing..Good Luck Young Men..!!!!

Top ten in my opinion,

#1- Charter Oak, [Wow, 48 to 7 over D.Ranch]
No question as to who is the best in the sgv.
Sorry Tommy Tartan, I like most of your postings,
but on your last post you said Glendora is the best in the SGV, I think the Chargers would beat your Tartans even easier than the first time, they are a different team since the Wilson game.
Are they guaranteed to reach the title game? Nope,
we all know that even the best can lose on any given playoff night, but El Dorado will have their hands full if they do meet the Chargers.
#2- South Hills or Glendora
#3- South Hills or Glendora
Both of these teams are very close, & both are having stellar seasons, don't know who is better,
either team can be at 2 or 3.
#4- Damien, Spartans are getting hot at the right time, nice win over Chino Hills.
#5- Bishop Amat, My ratings are based on who I think would win in head to head matchups, not so much on won loss records.
#6-West Covina, the young Bulldogs with 7 sophmores and 7 junior starters are improving each game, they did a fine job outplaying South Hills in the second half. The teams they loss to,[Mater Dei, Charter Oak,South Hills, Ayala, & Rancho Cucamonga] could also beat any of the teams ranked below the Bulldogs.
#7- D.Ranch, The Panthers had an impressive start
at the beginning of the season, but these last few weeks they looked average, having close games with Wilson, & a depleted Los Altos team, then getting crushed by C.Oak.
#8- Baldwin Park, A Tough physical team that was the only team able to stop the vaunted San Dimas run game. They were also the only team that West Co played that kept the West Co offense in check
for most of the game.
#9- San Dimas, The Saints are having a good year,
bet they're hopeing for another crack at BP in the playoffs.
#10- S. El Monte, Great turn around for the Eagles ever since they upset Alhambra.

Just missed,- La Puente,Duarte,Covina,Northview,
but things could change tonight.

Dr. kivorkian
why do you have to use me as the bad example

Dr. kivorkian
why do you have to use me as the bad example

West Covina 27 Walnut 0,
Compliments to Walnut for coming out & playing
intense, inspired football for the first 2 quarters vs West Covina, stacking 9 in the box to put a big stop on the Bulldog offense, half time score was 6 to 0 West Co.
Nice job by West Co coaches to lite a fire under their butts at halftime, not sure what they told them, or what adjustments the Bulldogs made, but they came out after halftime and Isaac Tucker scored 3 TD's and gained 173 yards in the third quarter alone!, before they took out the first unit at the end of quarter. The reserves came in for the 4th qtr.& did a nice job preserving the shutout for the rest of the game.
Walnut has a 6'3" 230 pound sophmore running back
who will be a monster when he is a senior.

Wonder if Gano is regretting not going to La Verne University after this season. Dont expect much from Wilson or Bonita in the playoffs. I see a one and done for both teams. Also you Glendora honks dont get too excited. I can see the Tartans choking in the playoffs too. Wouldn't be too shocked to see them upset in the first or second round. I can see CO and South Hills making long runs. Watch out for Damien. They are getting hot at the right time of year as the Spartan players are playing for a save Morrison campaign.

Wonder if Gano is regretting not going to La Verne University after this season. Dont expect much from Wilson or Bonita in the playoffs. I see a one and done for both teams. Also you Glendora honks dont get too excited. I can see the Tartans choking in the playoffs too. Wouldn't be too shocked to see them upset in the first or second round. I can see CO and South Hills making long runs. Watch out for Damien. They are getting hot at the right time of year as the Spartan players are playing for a save Morrison campaign.

How many yards did Gilmore have against co and what was the score?

Prepfan

Ya iv seen him but knowing how the trib works. Its how far a certain player carries his team in the playoffs. So with that being said. they would(wilson) have to go the 2nd round at least. But he has been putting up numbers. Its not like he is playing against very weak defenses( a la chris harris in montview) quality opponents with quality yards.

Read in the paper this morning that Tim Gilmore(Wilson) had almost 300 yards and another 3 touchdowns. This after having 250 yards and 6 touchdowns last week against Los Altos. Is this kid getting any serious consideration for SGV player of the year? I've only seen him play twice this year, he was impressive in both games, and his numbers don't lie. Anyone one else seen this kid?

Kudos to all of our local teams who move on this fall. You guys will remember this for years to come.

Impressive Miramonte wins last night, congrats to the Chargers, Bearcats, and Wilson in making the playoffs. What occupies the High School Football part of my brain, (located in the cerebral peduncle), this time of year is how our local teams will fair when the first round playoff brackets are announced.

Now you know, and I know that the CIF Southern Section powers that be are completely impartial when placing teams for the playoffs. Immune to outside influence and politics, as it were, and interested solely in providing a competitive experience for the players who will participate without regard to race, creed, or place of national origin. (The selection process IS however apparently affected by the number of Mimosa's the CIF crew sucks up at brunch before the picks actually get underway, but that's more of an investigative journalism thing, huh?)

All that aside, I await eagerly, as do the other fans, players, coaches, and parents the announcement of the seedings. Charter Oak along with the The El's, (El Toro, El Modena, El Dorado), and the Hills, (South Hills, Trabuco Hills, and Foothill) clearly have to be favored to pass into round two of the SW playoffs but don't count out Canyon or even the underdog Bonita crew

C O should end up with a #2 or #3 spot in the CIF polls giving them a nice playoff opener against one of the Suburban League tomato cans or even Rowland. Wilson won't be quite so fortunate, and will probably get stuck with the winner of the Seaview, Trabuco Hills, or the Suburban's champs, Mayfair; either way, a tough row to hoe. Bonita will get the interesting pick since they didn't even get a vote in the last poll and may find themselves playing someone like Canyon again. Those wacky little pickers from Cerritos are never afraid to do something wild and crazy, (remember last year, when the CIF brain trust had C O tee off against La Mirada in round one after they had already met in pre-season?).

Doubtless, it was the Mimosa's talking.

Can't wait to see what they come up with for 2007.

back on baby, we're back on

Morning after thoughts,

First, congrats to all players who played their final game of their High School career last night. Good thing about memories, they are one of the few things that last a lifetime! Good luck with the rest of your lifes!

Heartful Congratulations to CO, Damien, Ayala and others. Let us now cheer on one another in CIF as we represent the San Gabriel Valley, the proudest area in all CIF football. I hope the tone of the blog becomes one of unity.

And, finally, the Year of the Tartan is a realization. The Test is over boys. You made us all proud. It's been said over and over again, this special group of boys are like family. They have played together as a football team since they were 9 and 10 years old.

I said since Spring, you would be Sierra League champions. My wife says, thats one of the few things I got right? Could she be refering to my record with the stock market?

Congrats to Henry and Ken! Your 9 and 10 year olds did good. You should be proud.

CIF Inland Division is one of the toughest in all CIF. One game at a time boys. The season begins next Friday at Citrus College. At this stage, you must play like every game will be your last game of your career. BRING IT ON!

Thanks FDR!! I already miss U 2 much!

FANatic has left the Blog...don't know what I will do with all my spare time when I hang up my keyboard. With all my favorite TV shows going to reruns, I might have to get a real job! It's a cruel, cruel world.

Congrats to Pod and Co. at Bonita. The Mayor will be in full effect at T Phillips wearing his green proudly. The Mayor is E. Pod if you didn't know and like someone mentioned earlier, the guy is all football and eats bacon at all hours because it's pigskin.

As for Gano and the LA Conqs...You're a fool if you think this team dropped off or it was coaching. This team did not have a lot of depth and take away your 3 best players from injuries...that's what you saw, a depleted team with a first year quarterback. This could be one of Gano's finer coaching jobs having them in the hunt til last 10 seconds with Diamond Ranch and being in tight ballgame with Bonita. I know it's hard for LA fans, but it was what it was. A team that just didn't have enough after the injuries.

Congrats to Pod and Co. at Bonita. The Mayor will be in full effect at T Phillips wearing his green proudly. The Mayor is E. Pod if you didn't know and like someone mentioned earlier, the guy is all football and eats bacon at all hours because it's pigskin.

As for Gano and the LA Conqs...You're a fool if you think this team dropped off or it was coaching. This team did not have a lot of depth and take away your 3 best players from injuries...that's what you saw, a depleted team with a first year quarterback. This could be one of Gano's finer coaching jobs having them in the hunt til last 10 seconds with Diamond Ranch and being in tight ballgame with Bonita. I know it's hard for LA fans, but it was what it was. A team that just didn't have enough after the injuries.

Congrats to Pod and Co. at Bonita. The Mayor will be in full effect at T Phillips wearing his green proudly. The Mayor is E. Pod if you didn't know and like someone mentioned earlier, the guy is all football and eats bacon at all hours because it's pigskin.

As for Gano and the LA Conqs...You're a fool if you think this team dropped off or it was coaching. This team did not have a lot of depth and take away your 3 best players from injuries...that's what you saw, a depleted team with a first year quarterback. This could be one of Gano's finer coaching jobs having them in the hunt til last 10 seconds with Diamond Ranch and being in tight ballgame with Bonita. I know it's hard for LA fans, but it was what it was. A team that just didn't have enough after the injuries.

Give 'em hell Wilson and Bonita! Wildcats and Bearcats both in the play-offs for the first time in a long time! Make it memorable....

Regarding DBHS

Last night at the game, I said to a friend that I recalled when DB packed the house with supporters and fans. Looking at the small crowd in the DB stands said otherwise. Back in the day DB offered only standing room. Over the years DB has produced some great looking teams and as always has shown up to play tough ball. With last nights overview of the game things looked different then years ago. I'm aware that the demographics of communities changes over time, but no one has gone through that transformation more then DB. Hell, not that long ago DB's football team out numbered their band by plenty. Today the band out numbers the team. Still your team showed what their made of as I witnessed some isolated play that gave promise. #5 (Kpaduwa) you are a true baller. You went at it every time you received a touch on the ball, you're coaches couldn't have asked for more. #8 (Warren) you took what we offered and never looked back..great job. It's understandable why Coach Martin cornered the head job at DB...the program sticks with him and your team is back in line to offer nothing but...standing room only! Best of luck to the seniors...see you returners all next year.

PLAID LAD

Give 'em hell Wilson and Bonita! Wildcats and Bearcats both in the play-offs for the first time in a long time! Make it memorable....

Give 'em hell Wilson and Bonita! Wildcats and Bearcats both in the play-offs for the first time in a long time! Make it memorable....

DR should be ban from posting on this site until they all learn the meaning of honesty and integrity. Cheating to gain the upper hand never pays off. You are the poster-children of that fact.

Bonita, nice job last night. Everyone knew that LA would still be a tough game, even without some of their standouts. BoHi Defense has been getting better every week and dominated. The offense has been crippled with penalties and miscues. Confident that will get ironed out and rolling. To the guys behind the scenes! Podley and staff, nice job. Over all it was a great team effort. To LA, props to all of the Conq. You remained a contender even to last game, despite your injuries. Your well wishes for the other teams moving on, shows how much class you have. Nice job. Charter Oak, this team is big, strong and talented. You have done what anyone would expect from a good football team. Played hard, showed sportsmanship and beat the teams you needed to. Congrats on winning league. Bonita will do it's best for another chance to face the CO GIANTS. Good luck to all the teams in the SGV! Yes, even Gledora!! jk. Stay healthy and play hard. IT'S PLAYOFF TIME!!! ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!!

All year we have read about D Ranch and their false bravado. The prophet Rowdy Roddy Piper talking about his schedule and being #1 in the valley and wanting Bishop Amat Blah Blah Blah...

Problems with CIF and the fans justifying it with we are 3-0 on the field. Well folks you got a taste or reality last night. Lets see, the beat down was worse than any other on your schedule.

Your bark is louder than your bite. You honestly think you would rattle Big Lou and his team with your comments, and little vist to their practice field. Like always they remain quiet, work hard and settle up on the field.

Congrats Coach Podley and Bonita and good luck in the playoffs.

good job to la puente warriors last time they were league champs is when coach ward was there and i believe they were back to back league champs but like always cant get passed first round cif playoffs and about that sophmore QB at los altos he broke his leg his freshmen year so he never has had any playing time until this year with jv lok out for him next year justin zamano

no-step. maybe you can look yourself in the morror and tell me that damien, like rabe, is where they should be. i saw rabe tonight do the same rush over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. on a positive note now that the regular season is over, this years LBs are better than last year. faster , quicker, smarter and better tacklers, oh yeah and they actually make big plays, ints,fumble recoveries ect ect. gallardo is a stud. time and again he pancaked him man and chased the play after hid initial block. too bad he was mismanaged for hallf a season. soph sainz is easily the team mvp. what a great job never getting hurt, taking a beating and making tough yards. with balls that big it's a miracle he ain't bowlegged. the story of the 3 amigos. Mcmahon, pertusati and korprincia. great leadership. fun to watch and agin typical damien kid. gives you everything and puts a smile on your face. smitty. you were better with the weight. talmo will be a rb next year. Veith learn how to contain without being "contained". what'
s the technique you use for slipping a wr that's blocking you? arm under and thru.

LA Conq, Gano's play calling has been questionable for such a good coach. Think back to DR and Wilson. Obviously I am refering to the QB situation, and another position, as well.

LA Conq, Gano's play calling has been questionable for such a good coach. Think back to DR and Wilson. Obviously I am refering to the QB situation, and another position, as well.

Anonymous @ 11:15,

I don't think you've heard us (read us) very well. We know our division is going to be next to impossible to win (I didn't say impossible, but...) We know we will get a team first round that is every bit as good (maybe better) as Ayala, CH or Damien. We know that we will not be the favorites in the second round, should we get there. IMHO we are the best team in the SGV (west or east), but the inland is a powerhouse at the top. We do believe in the heart of our boys and that they do have the ability to "make a run", but we will need an all-out effort from all players and coaches and we may need a break here and there as well. That said, it's awesome to have watched the regular season these guys have had and I for one will never forget that part. It's also going to be a blast to host a playoff game and I can't wait to see what happens. Great finish...let's go put some icing on that cake. Game on!

...LA CONQ

I caught the LA vs LB Wilson game, the LA defense was stunning.

Couple weeks later I saw CO defense...also very impressive.

I think LA -b4 injuries- was slightly better.

Oh well, time to cheer for CO...

~Football Jones

Congratulations to those teams in the CIF playoffs. Positive thoughts to stay healthy and no injuries.

They would have gone with the sophomore (or the JV QB, the Junior Lefty) and struggled as much or more than they did. We'd be better off next year though if they Sophomore had a year under his belt.

We can complain all we want...but EVERYONE knows this: Contreras, Rodriguez and McBride don't get hurt and no only does LA make the playoffs, the CO game is a BATTLE for the league title! As Conq '76 said earlier..."what might have been"!

To All LA CONQ Fans:

In Gano's defense, he made it very clear in pre-season interviews that LA offense would struggle this year and they would have to rely on it's defense.

~Football Jones~

Not to start s**t or nothing but i seriously dont think Glendora has enough to get pass the 1st/2nd round.... They are good but not as good as you may think....Damien and Chino Hills were two legit teams last year and yet neither of them got passed the 2nd round

LA CONQ..

Good point regarding LA QBs.

However it begs the question; assume there were no BA late transfers last summer, does this mean LA(Gano) did NOT have a suitable QB for this season?

~Football Jones~

GHS fired on enough cylinders to "finish it" against Diamond Bar. Personally I thought the game was slow and methodical. GHS's D appeared disinterested in laying the hammer on the Brahma's like one might think...considering it was the final game of the season. With less energy exerted our O-crew took a lot of unnecessary hits that caused bumps and lumps that might slow us in preparation for this coming week. With time to rest this weekend, we should be back to sharpening our game against ______________________ @ Citrus Stadium @ 7:00 PM.

All things considered, we won and are Sierra League Champs. We ended the SL season as a 5-0 team. We are proud of everyone...for you all made it happen when it counted most. Best of luck the rest of the way.

PLAID LAD

Damien played like they should have all year... tonights team was the team that we all expected this season....they had atleast 5 or 6 INT's tonight....Defense played their hearts out...It will be tough in the first round, but anything can happen

Damien played like they should have all year... tonights team was the team that we all expected this season....they had atleast 5 or 6 INT's tonight....Defense played their hearts out...It will be tough in the first round, but anything can happen

Football Jones...

You're right, he wasn't very good. But I'll trust Gano's player evaluation and say that as bad as we was...the backups were worse. The other BA transfer threw one ball tonight and it was a pick. The sophomore, I've heard, has potential but just wasn't ready this year.

Let's face it...no matter who we had under center tonight it would not have mattered...our QB was getting sacked more than Jenna Jameson!

Football Jones...

You're right, he wasn't very good. But I'll trust Gano's player evaluation and say that as bad as we was...the backups were worse. The other BA transfer threw one ball tonight and it was a pick. The sophomore, I've heard, has potential but just wasn't ready this year.

Let's face it...no matter who we had behind center tonight it would not have mattered...our QB was getting sacked more than Jenna Jameson!

...LA CONQ

I think Jeremy is referring to South Hills making QB change after they started 0-2.

Some LA fans believe GANO should have replaced QB a Long time ago.

I've never seen the backup QB play so I can't say 'play him'. However, it's difficult to imagine how he could possibly be much worse.

This years BA...oops, I mean LA QB was *NOT* very good.

~Football Jones~

Congratulations to the San Dimas Saints by capturing a 9-1 season. Just Awesome!

damien looked good once again even with the crappy play calling by morission, go get em boys in playoffs bring on REV

Come on Azusa beat La Puente....

Go Falcons.......

FANatic,

Are you going to make your son PROUD by showing up at his school to see coach P. get his outrageous haircut. I would have been proud to see my dad holding up a sign at my school when I was a senior. Is the sign going to read "FINISH THE CUT" or "HACK IT ALL" or maybe " I'M MISSING DR. PHIL FOR THIS". Your a wild one FANatic, you will be missed.

Go Falcons....

Let the playoffs begin..

Congrats Wilson!

Jeremy...

what do you mean by that comment? I'd love to know how Gano's ego cost us the season.

Steve Bogan possesed enough humility and love for his team to make the proper adjustments to give his team a better chance to succeed, even if it meant correcting his previous judgement. What did Gano do??

Conq Nation, injuries MAMED the team, but Greg Gano's inflating ego cost his team the season.

Conq Nation, injuries MAMED the team, but Greg Gano's inflating ego cost his team the season.

Conq Nation, injuries MAMED the team, but Greg Gano's inflating ego cost his team the season.

Conq Nation, injuries MAMED the team, but Greg Ganos inflating ego cost his team the season.

Congrats to the Saints. Its been a great regular season 9-1. Time to put it all together for the playoffs.

Great job to all the teams in the Valle Vista. To Ganesha even though you have no wins this year you guys are a class act. Props to the GHS family. Good luck tommorow night.

GO SAINTS!!!
GO SD BAND!!!

FYI, I can't sign into our system and update the blog tonight. They're working on it until 3 in the morning, so I'll update when I wake up..Here are the scores.

Charter Oak 48, Diamond Ranch 7
Bonita 16, Los Altos 6
San Dimas 35, Covina 21
Damien 33, Chino Hills 17
West Covina 27, Walnut 0
Glendora 42, Diamond Bar 7
South Hills 43 Nogales 14
Wilson 37, Rowland 25
Duarte 42, Sierra Vista 13

Wilson is in the playoffs by virtue of a 3-way coin flip, and congrats Damien for winning three straight and getting in.

just to let you know damien beat down chino hills 33-17

anyone go to the chs vs sd game?

SORRY COLTS!! get 'em next year!

Bonita beat San Dimas in 4 games in Volleyball!!

Husky Fan,

If the CIF rankings stay the same then the only way SH & CO meet would be in the finals.

El Dorado wil get Rowland or Wilson
Charter Oak - South Hills would not be until the finals. I still expect Trabuco - El Do Final.

Dr. Kivorkian
A word of advise. Never let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird colon. You end up being full of something.

"Wilson deserves to go to the playoffs. Los Altos didn't win not one league game on the field "

True.

But unfortunately, the SINGLE league victory for Wilson was against...Los Altos.

....Slightly less bad

~Football Jones~

Good Job Charter Oak, Bonita and Wilson. Go get'em in playoffs.

Fred, i know the brackets arnt out yet but do you think South Hills could face Charter Oak again?

Yikes!!!

Who does Wilson draw in the 1st round...El Dorado?

~Football Jones~

Congats to Wilson, not such a long shot after all.

Congrats Wildcats!!

Wilson deserves to go to the playoffs. Los Altos didn't win not one league game on the field and Diamond Ranch are cheaters.

congrads
charter oak- very good football team
bonita- nice win tonight
wilson-you won the coin flip square and fair nice going.
good luck in cif

from a los altos fan and supporter

Wow....awfully quiet in here!! Where are all the D-Ranch talkers now??? Wait....you LOST!!!!! How does that haterade taste on YOUR sidelines???? Next time be sure you can back up your mouth's with some facts, talent and skill....oh and coaching!!!!

CO CHARGERS ARE THE UNDEFEATED 2007 MIRAMONTE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS....NO QUESTIONS....NO DOUBTS!!!

Enjoy your view from the stands panthers....you surely don't deserve a place on the field!!!

So there isn't any confusion, Wilson won the coin flip and is going to the playoffs.

Any one know who won the San Dimas vs. Bonita Volleyball game?

Diamond Ranch was out coached, out played and down right stomped tonight. Final CO 48 - DR 7. CO scored on its first 8 possessions! Snowden must have run for 150+ yards and I think 5 touchdowns. DR did not score until 2.51 left in the 3rd qrt. CO's defense was all over DR from the very first play. Diamond Ranch can now except the fact that they are at best a good team, but in NO WAY can they be compared with the best teams in the valley. Enjoy the playoffs from the stands!

Tartans 42 Diamond Bar 7 - Final. 5-0 in Sierra league. Way to "Finish it" Boys (that was for you bloggers who say you hate when the dads hold up that sign ;)

Way to go Charter Oak and Bonita!!! Let the other 3 flip a coin!!

DR, you have plenty of time to drive around honking your horns now. WOW, you guys could only muster one 1st down the whole first half and CO could have punched in another but decided to take a knee. Hardly any penalties in this game.

Anonymous at November 8, 2007 08:08 PM

The limit is two games in eight days.

after i heard and read all the smack that DR was talking and for their little visit yesterday. I AM SO GLAD THAT CO IS DOING WHAT THEY DO. KEEP IT UP!!!

Woohoo!!!! Touchdown CHARGERS!! 3rd quarter 41-0 Charter Oak!!!! Where are those D-Rancher thugs now!! Good things happen to good people.....bad things happen to BAD people! Chargers continue their "Pursuit of Victory with Honor"!

What are the scores

Great job Chargers!!! Keep up the momentum......lets put those D-Ranchers to bed once and for all!!!!! End of first half and score is 34-0 Charter Oak baby!!!!

lol i was just watchin the first half of the south hills/nogales game.

SOUTH HILLS is all over the place 40-0 @ Halftime.

Fred,

Is there a limit of the number of games a HS football player can play in a given week? With the fires postponing some of the games some of the teams had make up games and regular games in the same week. The boys bodies took alot of abuse playing in 2 to 4 games in 5 days. If there isnt a limit there should be.

Halftime
21 San Dimas
14 Covina

Anonymous at November 8, 2007 03:13 PM

If the player is getting manhandled he is costing himself the scholarship. The reality is parents have absolutely unrealistic expectations about D1 scholarships.

Optimistically there are 2,000 D1 scholarships available each year (including the likes of FIU), pessimistically, there are 150,000 graduating senior football players competing for these scholarships along with a few JC players. Despite what you hear in the stands, the best player on most teams will not play D1.

A D1 athlete would not be getting manhandled at the high school level no matter how bad the coaching is.

Better to focus on academics since there is MUCH more scholarship money available for that relative to athletics.

FredJ

Freddy, I think we are onto something here. The possibilities could be received overwhelming by our local high schools and the community. Now that would really be "passing forward" something that our youth could spring-board from as they prepare for college. What do you think?

PLAID LAD

...#1FAN

Points well taken.

I'll keep my SGV Tribune complaints to myself.

~Football Jones~

Plaid Lad, we could start our own Tribune internship program with the high schools, I agree. Something to think about.

FredJ

As looney as that sounds you might have hit on something that could work for everyone. What about asking each SGV team to submit action photos of their scheduled games and then assign a high schooler the task of writing about the outcome of their game...ie...100 words or less...or something more like a fat-thread. Those kids that are driven to take school photos verses those that like the editorial side of the special events might benefit, as well as each school. The students could do it for extra credit...maybe something each school would have to work out with the Tribune before launching. Anyway, it was just a thought.

PLAID LAD

Anonymous, what do you think we do? Compare us to other local newspapers, we're still one of the few who try to staff every game whenever possible, with longer stories going to the games we think are the most important all the way down.
Our real problem is working with new deadlines since we no longer print our newspaper at the Tribune. Downsizing has forced us to print at our sister newspaper, the Los Angeles Daily News, which means Pasadena, Whittier, Tribune, Ontario and San Bern Sun all have earlier deadlines -- much earlier. Fortunately, we're not as affected at the Tribune, as the Bulletin, which is why you see shorter and shorter game stories in their newspaper. They have one of the earliest deadlines, somewhere around 10 p.m., and as you all know, games end around 9:30, 9:45, sometimes later. So if they miss a game, it's not always because they didn't staff it, it's because it didn't finish in time to make deadline, which is what I believe happened a couple weeks ago when the Ayala-Chino Hills game didn't make the paper.

This is a trend that will continue, which is why you seeing us moving more toward the web everyday.

Come on Fred, do what every other downsized company does, prioritize your jobs with avaiable human resources. In other words, which games matter the most, send in the local Trib reporter. Cover all local games which will decide a league champ, followed by games which would determine a wild card seat. All others are not news.

Plain Lad, better yet, I'm waiting for some billionaire to start a San Gabriel Valley prep website so we can have beat writers for every team in the SGV, with photos of every game.

John, I don't believe they have done a coin flip for the Valle Vista since Covina and San Dimas are playing tonight, and Baldwin Park-Northview is on Friday. If Covina wins, I'm sure all representatives will be at the District on Friday for the outcome of Baldwin Park-Northview, and would flip afterward if it's needed.
FYI, we'll have video highlights and interviews for BPark-Northview.

GHS-we all need to stop pissing and moaning about not getting the Tribune coverage we think is due. Look at all the teams that dress-down within the SGV and then looked at the limited staff that the Tribune/Bulletin has to complete the equation.

You want more control of the Tribunes coverage...go out and purchase a newspaper company. Ah, hell someone would still complain!

FYI: You want coverage...Then make it... by showing up and supporting our team Glendora style.

PLAID LAD

Fred

about this coin flip.Im I to understand that it has already been done? Would the same be true for the Valle Vista?

GO SAINTS!!!
GO SD BAND!!!

FANatic,

That was a good one, it actually made me chuckle.

I went to the bulletin... they are just pissed off because Coach Roache is on his way out and Chino Hills isn't a dominant football team anymore......what do you think about that.....

I went to the bulletin... they are just pissed off because Coach Roache is on his way out and Chino Hills isn't a dominant football team anymore......what do you think about that.....

Well said, there is no reason in the world for a private school in this division to have a losing record. They have all the resources to recruit the top players in the area. Its a shame to see those college recruiters on the sidelines watching Damien lose and seeing the players getting man handled. The coaching staff has lost many D1 scholarships for it's students....

Don,

Like I said, I think some loud mouthed yahoo from Ayala pissed someone off. We beat Chino Hills and they had the nerve to put a photograph of Chino Hills in the paper. Not even mentioning who won the game. I am not saying that Ayala is the greatest team ever, but they came along way from 0-10 last year to 6-3 this year. They have some incredible players there, but no one outside of the school campus knows what we're talking about....You have a kid who has thrown for 1500 yards in four games and a kid who will reach 1000 yards in receptions tonight.... whats going on here???

Tonight the Spartan football team will play for Morrison's job. In the unfortunate happenstance that Damien loses will AD Carroll just replace Morrison or will the next Head Coach HAVE to hire his son as well? Or how about Coach/AD Carroll when will he step down as well? I hope the end is quick tonight instead of the agony of yet another playoff blowout/out coached debacle. Mighty Mo on your way out could you please take out the trash. Start with the lower level coaches. They are horrible and unqualified. Take a look at the skill position juniors. Every one of them is a work in progress and are completely confused on the field. (Bentance, Bento, Salter, Reyes, Sale, Haywood, Okafor, Silva, Chychner, Carter, Serafinko, Betance, Reyes, Gomez, Richardson, Veith , William, McCraven and on and on) Is there ANY other school that so unprepares it's underclasmen? Soph. Sainz is a stud. But he came that way...that's not Coach Hernandez' prodigy. Hernandez is the reason Damien lost that onside kick to Ayala. Completely unprepared top to bottom. The players are fundamentally unsound, poorly conditioned and completely unprepared. Look at 6'5" 295lb John Rabe. What coach could have messed that up! HE WAS THAT SIZE AS A FRESHMEN!!!!!!USC? OREGON? ARIZONA? BOISE STATE? USD? MT SAC? EVERY team has handled Rabe with one tackle pushing him to the outside. Does he even have another move other than outside buullll russshhhh! Coach Hile's way in over his head. And that's gone on long enough. Pop Warner to Division II Varsity onvernight? Great guy horrible coach. It's called credentials/experience/know how.
Mighty Mo owes the parents of Damien an apology for the lack of a quality staff AFTER FIVE YEARS ON THE JOB. How did it come to this? Look at Glendora after 5 Coach P. years. That's a program! Damien on the other hand is a project. And a .500 one at that. Say goodnight Coach Mo! And don't let the door hit you on the way out. Done.

Yeah, we've got one of our guys covering Glendora/Diamond Bar

Confused, I would guess, 4-1 South El Monte will go as #1 from MVL and there would be a coin toss for the #2 and #3 MVL Spots between Arroyo, El Monte, and Rosemead all with a 3-2 Record.

Fred,

Anyone covering the Glendora/Diamond Bar game tonight?

Anonymous, for the last time, the Tribune and Bulletin are owned by the same newspaper group, so we share stories and photos whenever possible. However, Ayala falls within the HOMETOWN boundaries of the Daily Bulletin, and not the Tribune. We run stories on Ayala when they're playing Tribune area teams. If you have complaints about hometown coverage, go to your hometown newspaper, the Bulletin.

To insider who claims to have known who won the coin flip should a three-way tie result between Los Altos, Wilson and Diamond Ranch, we will not confirm it here until after the games. I'm going to respect the principals' wish to allow the players to go into the game not knowing, unless the coaches spring it on them.

to; Don @1:38
Well written post!!!Best yet.Finally someone with football Knowledge and calls it like it is,
!FOOTBALL!!GREAT AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!
Thanks Don.

to t. morris
calm down. I'm not a d.r. supporter but you and a bunch of others need to relax..it's football.even the nfl promotes violence,,did you see sunday night football..Smash Mouth Football. there was a guy laid out and bloody on there promo commercial.You sound like an old man,Im sure no one will get arrested or thrown out of the stadium..you are over reacting..Let the kids play and play hard! Good Luck to all the SGV teams!!

Dear Angryonymous,

Sorry to hear you aren't getting the coverage you want from the newspaper you chose. You are not alone as I have been waiting for years for my big breakout in the Christian Science Monitor. But I digress, again.

While I claim no insight at all over how the LA Newspaper group assigns it's coverage for high school football games, I do know that I go here - http://www.dailybulletin.com/preps when I am looking for news about my friends in the Chino area.

I hope this helps.

Your friend from the other end of the 71,

Don

Predictions:

Pac 5 champ - Long Beach Poly
Northern Champ - Saugus
Inland Champ - Vista Murrieta
Southwest Champ - Charter Oak
Southeast Champ - La Habra
Northwest Champ - Morro Bay
Western Champ - Palmdale
Central Champ - Moreno Valley
Eastern Champ - Serrano
Southern Champ - Irvine University
Mid Valley Champ - Paraclete
East Valley Champ - Citrus Hill
Northeast Champ - St. Margaret's

t morris at what point did i say i supported that behavior??? im just stating facts

i dont live in some dream world where that air dont move like you...dr people are bad people bottom line

and if dr and glendora can learn anything from co it should be HOW TO FINISH...rememeber the games are 48 minutes long...not 46 or 47 (sorry couldnt resist)

Due to budjet restrictions, it's doubtful the Trib would remove that full time reporter from the Charter Oak campus, who's covering the car horn story, to send to GHS for a haircut story.

Don't like Springer. I was watching Judge Judy.

Thanks anyway JFR!

BTW, I hope you don't mine, but I copy and pasted your wondeful post from the blog giving the Tartans some of your love! I'm using your heartfelt sentiments in this years FANatic Xmas cards.

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Glendora del Norte,
Take it easy big bro! You must be the same guy who said we had no chance against GHS. Well, you how that turned out.
As for Damien, they are a possible playoff team in D2 so no disgrace there. That is a quality team.
You better start worrying about REV, CC, etc.!!!
Tonight we will see who the better team is, CO or DR.

p.s. A sincere GOOD LUCK to the Tartans in CIF.

I've seen C O play twice this season and DR once and while both teams struck me as rough and physical, neither seemed to play “dirty”.

It's difficult for people whose experience with football is mostly as a spectator to understand what really happens on the field. They are used to following the ball, (reinforced by experience with televised sports), and in doing so fail to catch most of the finer points of the “REAL GAME”.

The real game, of course being that on the line of scrimmage, with both sets of “non-skilled” players doing what they can to gain an edge and move the yard marker to their team's advantage. The hand pushes, elbows, fists and forearms flying around in that scrum are mostly missed by the average fan while he watches Sammy Superstar throw the ball down field to Rocket Rodney Speedster or Billy Bob Ballcarrier break into the open.

When the average fan sees that big mean sweaty bully with a big number on his back still working his opponent over after the ball moves on, he is shocked. What would shock that fan even more is after the game, when the fans and cheerleaders are swooning over Rodney and Sammy, the guys who played in the trenches are off to the side shaking hands and congratulating their counterparts for four quarters of mayhem.

Coaches like Farrar and Layton understand what the heart of the game is, that is a big part of their success and the reason guys like them seem to do well year after year.

This just in, hot off the presses, THIS IS NOT A RUMOR............WILSON HAS ALREADY WON THE COIN FLIP!!!!

So you to all you die hard LA fans and DR cheaters, no pressure, no pressure at all!

Better win or find a comfy chair and somewhere to watch the WILDCATS play in the playoffs.
Better luck next year, if you dont WIN!

FANatic,

I've got a better idea, why doesn't the trib just hire a full-time person to roam the campus everyday for the HOT tartan story of the day.

I think springer is about to start, better hurry back to the TV

baja glendora II

Don't think you will get by the Panthers tonight and as far as the Golden Hawks, not a chance.

Make sure Snowden is healthy and playing tonight. We know what happens (Damien game) when your star sits out. (sorry I couldn't resist).

I have been told many times that Ayala H.S. is outside the boundaries of the SGV Tribune. If thats the case why are the same photographers and reporters writing for the SGV Tribune and the Daily Bulletin. I guess someone at Ayala really pissed someone off at one or both of these papers. Its shame when a team is doing so well and has the best quarterback and receivers in the state, and they are not even recognized for their efforts or performance. All you have to do is go to MaxPreps to get the stats. Its also a shame when the Tribune keeps referring to Damien's defeat by Ayala a mistake of fortune. Ayala capatilized on Damien's mistakes and had one the best two minute drills in high school. Damien's quarterback and receivers couldn't of pulled this off and I'm sure no other quarterback or receivers in the area could of pulled it off. The paper is refusing to say that Ayala's QB threw for 240 yards against Damien, 220 yards against Chino Hills and 370 yards gainst Glendora. How can the Daily Bulletin and the SGV Tribune overlook the top scorer in the inland empire and SGV. Its totally rediculous.. I hope other readers of the Daily Bulletin cancel their paper as I am doing at the end of football season. The SGV Tribune and Daily Bulletin have the same reporters... It's a bunch of crap.....

baja glendora II

And we respect CO and honestly any team that gets into the playoffs. In the playoffs anything can happen.

Canyon may not make it into the playoffs if they lose to El Mo and Brea will make it in ahead of Tustin if they beat them Friday.

The top 4 SOuthwest Div. seeds should be #1 El Do, #2 CO, #3 Trabuco Hills and #4 South Hills. CIF will set it up so the only place CO and El Do can meet is in the Final

y does everyone say DR is going to get there butt kicked, sayin that there over matched. Last year i heard the same thing and looked what happened. Now granted CO won, look at two key plays last year. One, obviously the catch that in the end of the 4th quater that sealed the deal. But it should have been a different game, i think it was in the late third or fourth quarter when senior andre porter intercepted a ball and should have scored but show boated before he got into the endzone. He scores the game is over. DR has something to prove, a win tonight there should be an * by this season cause if DR wins they would have been undefeated in leauge

DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
YES,
We're the new sheriff in town and the kids in the sgv are knocking down the door to get in. It is what it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DR 28 CO 14 (THE REAL MIRAMONTE LEAGUE CHAMPS)

8 WINS 2 LOSES and on to cif

Breaking News,

Your response stating that tonights Charter Oak Diamond Ranch game will be a street fight is exactly why DR has the reputation they do. It is very concerning that you think having a bad reputation is good.

Good luck tonight and good luck in life, your going to need it.

T. Morris

Breaking News,

Your response stating that tonights Charter Oak Diamond Ranch game will be a street fight is exactly why DR has the reputation they do. It is very concerning that you think having a bad reputation is good.

Good luck tonight and good luck in life, your going to need it.

T. Morris

Being a SGV homer, I want the best from Miramonte League to represent the SGV. Meaning the ones who have the best chance at 'going deep' in the the playoffs. IMO those teams are CO, Bonita, and DR. Sorry LA, losing to Wilson and CO bying giving up 42 and 50 points will not get it done in the Southwest Division.

t morris your livin in a dream world sorry to say

it wont be a football game tonight...its just gonna be a street fight

Benny,
You gotta know we respect the hell out of those Golden Hawks, not to mention T.H. and Canyon. But we have a long road to hoe yet. I would love to see a rematch of last year. As you know, we will "show up" unlike our brothers up north did (I couldn't resist). Stay healthy and good luck!

FANatic NEWS FLASH!!!

Rumor has it, Coach Pasqy will have a MOHAWK haircut given to him by the Tartan team during 6th period tomorrow if the Tartans beat Diamond Bar tonight wraping up the Sierra League.

I guess the coach will be breaking out those funky looking summer hats of his.

Are you listening Tribune, may make for a interesting photo!

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CO CHARGERS, beat DR down tonight like the posers they are! They deserve no mercy, no sympathy, no respect! They are wanna be thugs, who are on the verge of sealing their own heartbreaking fate! Burn the Ranch down tonight "CO bro's"! Handle it on the field, leave nothing to question! Let them never forget how they Chargers FRYED them on this night!

CO will run up the score tonite. D'Ranch is way overmatched, then to come by with that Yell-by...you are going to get a Azz Whooping tonite D'Ranch.

Does not matter what SEM,Rosemead or any of those SGV teams do in the playoffs....the Championship goes thru La Habra, I just cannot see any team beating them this year. out side shot at them could be from their own league and that is Troy HS.

Sportsmanship must be the victor tonight! A lot has been said on and off the field and also on these blogs that show sportsmanship and for some a lack thereof. I have heard from coaches, players and fans that as good as Diamond Ranch is on the field they have some serious sportsmanship issues. This has nothing to do with elegibility of players. I'm refering to the actions of the players and coaches on the field.

The term "Thugs" has been used by many who have been at the games, both as spectators and participants. I hope tonight proves different.

Diamond Ranch has everything to loose in tonights game which adds an eliment that if the accusations are true gives cause for concern regarding their behavior on the field. With their backs to the wall emotions will be running very high which could bring out the worst.

If anyone is injured because of a cheap shot or gets ejected for getting caught up in an altercation everyone looses. That would mean that they would not be able to participate in post league play and that would be unfair. It will be incumbent upon the coaches of both teams to encourage good sportsmanship through out the game, and to sit players down who may be loosing control.

Lou Farrar is a class act and has proven it over the years. He has never intentionally run up a score and does not tollerate bad sportsmanship. The concern here lies with the Diamond Ranch coaches. The word is that the unsportsmanlike behavior stems from them. With all the emotion tied up in tonights game it will be a perfect opportunity for Damond Ranch to reverse their image as Thugs.

Good luck to both teams and may good sportsmanship prevail.

T. Morris

Football Jones thats not cool nocking our SGV tribune they are human and mistakes will happen. Not the first or it will not be the last. Fred keep up the good work... Go WEST COVINA BULLDOGS.
p.s if you dont like the tribune dont read it.......

CO Bro, I'd love to see a rematch and don't even care if we play at our second home stadium (Citrus College) but you got the score wrong.

El Do 21 CO 7

The El Do defense held Esperanza to 16 points (3 FG's and a late TD) in the first game of the season and in a Championship game they won't remove the starters in the 3rd and 4th Quarter like they did against Glendora.

Fred,

I'm Just wonder IF El Monte Happens to upset SEM and Both Arroyo and Rosemead come out with wins What Happens Who Goes to CIF that Leaves South 4-1 and EM Mead and Arroyo all at 3-2 ???

..FRED J.

Does anyone edit the SGV tribune?

Today's SPORTS(pg2),under "FOOTBALL NOTEBOOK" we find what else but...VOLLEYBALL results??

I've read lots of papers over the years and SGV tribune has to be one the most poorly written & edited...Except for your columns of course.

~Football Jones~

CO vs ELDO in the finals. CO 17 ELDO 14.