more fact fodder for Joe Amat in the 1st round of the GHS tournament, doubters prepare and beware.

Thats right Joe, keep hitting them with facts. The moment of truth is fast approaching...bring on the season openers!!!

The Licon kid is on the Maxpreps roster for DRHS.

Interesting article in the LA Times to read regarding open enrollment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-sondheimer29feb29,0,7102392.column

Mandatory reading for those that think that private schools have a huge advantage when it comes to attracting players from out of the area.

Anybody know how that Licon (sp?)kid is doing at DR? Is he still at DR? I remember he was a good ball player, but have not heard to much on him lately. Last I read on him was in here, from a blogger, claiming he was transferring to San Dimas?

hey db fan nice post about fmr db players. looks like Crispen is in MVP form again. Good kid and family. wish him the best. is kenny matthewsa at DB? i believe he is a freshman.

Most of you morons dont even have a kid playing and are talking all this nonsense. Grow up you are blogging about how good you HS program is? Get a life or a wife and leave the blogging to the kids and their parents. You old men make it sound like the kids are playing for money. Go jump on the lakers or the Dodgers old timers there are blogs for them too. Lay off the HS programs.

Reality Cz

Funny stuff?

Come on dude... How embarrassing to be playing in that D5 league. False sense of security. LOL

What a joke!

sgvbaseballfan - funny stuff.
delusional, but funny

good day for former brahma ss playing juco ball. Last tuesday's game defending state champions Riverside City College beat Saddleback in 13 innings with the winning run driven in by ss Richie Jimenez. Today's game RCC beat Santa Ana 8-7 in 15 innings with Jimenez driving in the winning run with a sac fly. He was 3-4 with 1 rbi. Santa Ana ss Crispen Tarango had a great game going 4-6 with 5 rbi's. Tarango was last year OEC player of the year. With Gary Brown starting at 2b for CSF the brahmas have produced some fine infielders. This year team look for Bryan Stauffer to continue the brahma tradition along with Corey Levier.

so who is the big favorite in the Glendora classic?

I'm really tired of hearing about bishop amant.. Play this season in the vvl and you could possibly be a 5th place team.. So please fans get off your past success and face the facts... your a private school that wouldn't hang in a public schools league.. Sad

hey i heard some one say that eddie mckiernan from monrovia shut out the div 4 charter oak champs last year and that information is false erik allen actually shut them out and had a no hitter goin into the 6th inning

All you old guys just talk about the past, lets focus on the present... Sounds like of all you should get together and create an alumni game and just get over with... Then you can talk all the $hit you want. Better yet create a blog dedicated just for all you old men, WHO WAS BETTER THEN WHO BACK IN THE DAY... GEEEEEZ

Don't know what happened there - I guess it just needed to be repeated 3 times! LOL

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! So "Over It".

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! So "Over It".

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! So "Over It".

born and raised is right. Amat is just average and drives you amat apologists nuts to admit it. Even womens basketball had a down year losing in the playoffs. It all starts at the top and the adminstation there is HORRIBLE!!The Amat program is no longer the top program anymore. Once you Amat honks realize it the better off you will be.

born and raised,
You call us average. Is winning a CIF chamionship average,or that only pertains to us because we were put into D-5 and we did what everybody said we should do ,win the title. We do what everyone expects and still catch sh_t . But if we had lost can you imagine what people like youself would have posted. Just for the hell of it what is your alma mater , because it sounds like there are some sour grapes in your posts.Maybe when we were above average we whipped your school once or twice.

Just an observation, as I've been reading so many stupid posts lately - At least Don and Joe Amat can put up an intelligent post that has content worth reading.

Funny how periodically someone here beats up Amat fans for their “tailgating” tradition. The point isn't raised as often as the “stealing our local talent” chestnut, but it is brought up enough to be tiresome.

Other than Glendora, San Dimas, Bonita, Damien, South Hills, Charter Oak, Covina, West Covina, Northview, (ever been in the District Field parking lot after a Northview/Covina game?), Claremont, and Upland games I can hardly ever remember fans gathering in the parking lot for a pre-game party.

Some are a little sneakier than others, sometimes the local gendarmerie looks the other way, sometimes not, but it is done. Some of you may not partake, good for you, but don't single out one school for what seems to be commonplace elsewhere.

BTW: Since some of you guys seem to post from the Library at lunch I'd like to suggest you take a moment and look up the word specious in your American Heritage.

B&R,
Very eloquent. Your SGV education served you well. Where did you go again? Obviously, reading comprehension was not your strong suit, as you agree with "Keep it Real" "...that talent exists at all schools..." yet you selectively "misremebered" me starting this all by saying "...the reality is that the SGV has long been a hotbed of baseball talent. I'm not sure that anyone can claim that amat is the best..." or "...Other schools have provided an abundance of fine baseball players year in and year out."

But that's OK, I'll work with you on that. I've realized that you have no interest in facts and it isn't really opinions that you have...just desires. You want, so badly, for amat to be "average" that you figure if you say it enough it becomes so. regardless of any facts. If I'd say, "OK we're average" then does that make the teams that we beat *Below Average*? And when THOSE teams beat others in the SGV (Glendora, Charter Oak, South Hills) does that make them LESS than below average. NO wait...it can't ...because you support ALL of the HS athletes in the SGV and there is plenty of talent everywhere. So which is it. Now you've got yourself into quite a conundrum, haven't you?

Now if anyone were to have been on this blog long enough, instead of being a newbie, baseball only poster, you'd know that I wouldn't " find reasons to think that they are number one" in areas where there is no reason to think so. Go back to the football archives and you'll find, more often than not, posts about the problems with the football program, AD, administration, etc. And they know exactly how I feel. Some things are changing, many still need to.

And if you want to talk about the tailgating, outrageous in the stands, new generation of the "amat nation" - I'm right behind you. The tailgating was squashed by administration, let's see if that sticks. Guess who was among the many that complained to administration. Problems...yes we got 'em.

Or if we were talking Boys Basketball, I'd be on the complete other side of this argument. That program has fell from one that recently won a CIF title (the last SGV school to do so), and played a tough schedule including NBA players like Jordan Farmar, top collegians like Chase Budinger, high profile showcase events like the Dream Classic and competitive tournaments. Now this loser, know nothing, former St Paul Slime that had a horrible record with the swordsmen, comes in and drops to a schedule that instead includes Rosemead, Bassett and low level tournaments like El Rancho and a bunch of Division 10 team in the Calvary Chapel tourney. And they still don't win them. If I was Jordan Salley, I'd have left even earlier! This coming at a time when the program could have risen under the previous coach in a brand new palace of a gym that is BY FAR the best in the valley.

So an apologist - no.
Trying to make amat into something that they're not - no.
But on this thread - boys baseball - your barking up the wrong tree.

PS: Don - nice job...as always

Talent does indeed exist at all schools although not in equal quantities. Schools like South Hills, Charter Oak, and Amat typically have kids from outside the local attendance area because the families are hoping for more than the passing notice a gifted player gets at a school that rarely wins championships.

The kids who play at schools that win every week get a a lot more press (blog space) than do the kids who play on .500 teams. This goes over very well with the scrapbook crowd and they figure a more prominent school translates into bigger bragging rights around the water cooler. The prevailing wisdom among this crowd is too focus on the sports because while you never see the names of the AP students in the Times, you do see the star (name your own sport and position here) named.

Amat could be in last place in all sports and Joe Amat could still find reasons he thinks they are number one. Joe would make a great politican because most of the time he's full of crap

Keep it real,
I agree with you. Unlike most of the bloggers I don't have a son in a high school program, I am a supporter of ALL high school atletes, especially in the SGV. Joe wants everyone to know how much Amat is better than everyone, when they are not. They have become average, I tip my hat off to them last year for winning CIF.In which they should since they are in D5 and are able to bring in players from all over the place. Joe is asking for everyone to bow down to Amat. Joe can bow down to my nuts.

Can't we all get along and come to a conclusion that talent exists at all schools. People make decisions to attend a school which they feel is best for them. Whether it be BA, CO, NV, SH....does it matter. These schools continue to succeed because of prior success and athletes wish to compete at a high level. That is why the parents of these athletes, shopped them around looking for a good "travel ball" team prior to choosing a HS.
Let's support those decisions and athletes and hope that the SGV is represented come playoff time! And once these athletes move on, let's wish them future success!

B&R-SGV,
Exactly what question might that be? You never write anything that's factual to support your opinion. Maybe if you do, that would be a question that could be answered.

...and "$",
Laughing all the way to the bank?....or congress?...the hospital?...the grave?
Is that worth the $$$$$

Joe,
Blah blah, please answer my questions. Thank you.

mj-Facts are always straight. If you go back I was comparing JEREMY Giambi to Lamb. As I said, about 20 pts higher and two year s longer...so far. And when it's all said and done - I'm still betting that we'll be a little more proud of Young's *legacy* than the Huskies will be of JASON Giambi's (and I've had more than a couple conversations with Jason...PRE-Oakland days, so I'm not bashing-just the truth.
B&R, I noticed you wrote nothing to support your statements or dispute any facts, just you opinions - and you have a right to have them. But you know what they say about "opinions". Let's talk facts-and remember, you were the one that wanted to compare and brought up Bassett. You were the one that wanted to talk about the present - not the past.
tq- that's where the Gladstone reference came from. Happy Rock swept the Olymians and are in the same "higher" division. That makes them better...right?
Brutus, rules are the same for EVERY team in the CIF. If some kid wanted to get on the Metrolink in San Bernardino and jump off as it flew by Charter Oak or Northview - they could. Both schools athletically get there fair share of production from out of their attendance area. Ours might stretch a little further. I wonder why?

and all, let's not neglect my original comments, "...Now the reality is that the SGV has long been a hotbed of baseball talent. I'm not sure that anyone can claim that amat is the best..."
and as has been said, let's not forget the great players that didn't make it to the bigs but used their abilities continue their career and get an education because (I repeat)
"...I'd prefer to talk about players that have gone on to play in college, because it is all about education..."

Wake up everyone...

Steriods, HGH, and performance drugs have been a part of alot of sports for years...

They will continue to be right or wrong... These guys only care about themselves and the big pay day...

Laughing all the way to the bank...

THE BOTTOM LINE BIG JOE IS AMAT IS D5, AND PLAYS IN A WEAK LEAGUE.

EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES..

Everyone forget about Michael Young SS All Star of the Texas Rangers. Amat alumni. Jason Giambi is no different than Barry Bonds, claim to fame using illegal drugs aka Steroids to launch their careers. Michael Young is as Apple pie as you are going to get. Those Championships that the Yankees won with Giambi sould be taken away from them, 50% of that team was juiced. Also take that Giambi Way street sign off of Azusa, what a shame to the City of West Covina to have a his name associated with the City , I dont care how much money Jason put into that field, he is still a cheat and is still doing it.

Joe Amat,
We beat a team that beat another team? If that is the case than the Cowboys and evryone else who beat the Giants this year are Champs? What an idiot. Do you go around sharing your Amat stories at work while no one is listening? I have to agree with th other bloggers, please go out a get a hobby. You must be that grandfather at the Amat Football games cooking with all the other "veteranos" thinking it's cool drinking budwieser on school grounds. Do you even have someone in your familiy that goes there? or are you just going to continue living in the past?

Hey Joe Amat. Before you go comparing Giambi and Lamb you need to get your facts right. Lamb is .281 lifetime and is entering his 9th MLB season. Giambi is .289 lifetime and entering his 14th MLB season. And lets not forget the huge difference in HR's and the MVP trophy Jason has. You only seem to remember the NY years and not all the Oakland days. The days before the Yankees made him just be a power guy. .330's year after year in Oakland. But, let us remember that they are both from SGV and yes, SGV has alway's produced the best in CA. But, the best coaches are the ones they all play or in this case played for in summer, a guy simply known as "Bletch". Because that is the one who made all the fore metioned players the players that they are today. All the SH, Covina, WC, Edgewood,Amat, Northview people. Let's not forget about the great players, Joe, that never made it past the minors but started over some of these guys, like at SS at your school Joe. In all support all of the great SGV players so it can continue to be a "hot bed"

Hey Joe Amat. Before you go comparing Giambi and Lamb you need to get your facts right. Lamb is .281 lifetime and in entering his 9th MLB season. Giambi is .289 lifetime and entering his 14th MLB season. And lets not forget the huge difference in HR's and the MVP trophy Jason has. You only seem to remember the NY years and not all the Oakland days. The days before the Yankees made him just be a power guy. .330's year after year in Oakland. But, let us remember that they are both from SGV and yes, SGV has alway's produced the best in CA. But, the best coaches are the ones they all play or in this case played for in summer, a guy simply known as "Bletch". Because that is the one who made all the fore metioned players the players that they are today. All the SH, Covina, WC, Edgewood,Amat, Northview people. Let's not forget about the great players, Joe, that never made it past the minors but started over some of these guys, like at SS at your school Joe. In all support all of the great SGV players so it can continue to be a "hot bed"

Amat, you want credit for beating a team that beat "Legendary Coach Remkus" from Gladstone...Are you serious, you think Gladstone holds any weight on the talents of SGV...They haven't won a big game in a decade. For real, you brought that up as a "score one more for Amat". Don't reach or get desperate

Joe Amat,
Your lip is umm, kinda milky...my god, get off Amat's nuts. You know every nook and cookie about that place and who did this and who did that...I bet you're a tailgator at the baseball cif championship (nice drinking in the lot-what a mess that was) and football games...funny to see the Amat faithful act like they're little USC. Get a life, tailgating at a high school game drinking. Tell me this also, gotta be nice to have a 50 mile radius to choose your starting 9 from. I'll give Kendrena credit, I like him and think he did great job, but numerous advantages to recruiting kids legally.

Joe Amat you really need a life. Is this all you do is sit on a blog all day and comment with teenagers? I am mean seriously get a hobby for crying out loud.

SGV Born and Raised ,

You might remember the 90s most because that's when we ran roughshod over whatever program you were involved in, but 3 CIF championships in baseball and two National Championships this decade probably have a little more to do with the baseball program having national recognition. And the season before last years championship, when we were in Division 1, the lancers won the Serra league before losing 3-1 to eventual champion Lakewood ( who finished 30-5)

That's pretty competitive recently, no?

And for those that have read this - again, apologies, but "Born & Raised" since you apparently haven't if you really want to compare 2007 baseball is concerned, In the DV playoffs, before beating Monrovia and Eddie McKiernan (who also beat Covina and shut out DIV champion Charter Oak 8-0 BTW) -the Lancers also also beat Temple City - who beat South Hills, Montclair Prep-who beat Notre Dame Sherman Oaks., Calvary Chapel Murrieta-who beat Gladstone and legendary coach Rich Remkus., amat swept St Paul-who shut out Glendora, amat beat Orange Lutheran-who beat Mater Dei, Santa Margarita, Servite, and St John Bosco in the Serra league, and amat beat 24-3 Crescenta Valley in the finals of the Glendora Tourney after also beating Glendora, Northview, and a 20-7 Rubidoux team, who beat DIV CIF Champion Charter Oak, along the way.

So given those comparisons and who those teams also defeated, I don't see a huge disparity between the opponents that the lancers faced and the teams the rest of the valley faced. If we were facing "cookies" why did those same "cookies" beat other valley teams that are in your "higher divisions?

To offset the league opponents this years '08 lancers are back in the National Classic (which they won during both National Championship years), Loyola, and Chatsworth. Those are "cookies"?

So please debate this and come back with something more than "Raider Fan" this and "cookie" that and "next year is the year". Because we've had quite a few years - even recently.

You?

Joe,
Everyone has heard of Amat no question. But don't act like it's because of how great they are now. Please thank the Football program of the 90's for that. If you can't see that than you are like that Raider fan who thinks "next year is the year". Bottom line is that there are solid programs out there that are competing against a higher division, not playing cookies.

2nd paragraph, 1st sentence ,
"Are you talking about major leagues like last years American League All-Star game starting pitcher Danny Haren? "

But you're right. That's why I initially said,
"...the SGV has long been a hotbed of baseball talent. I'm not sure that anyone can claim that amat is the best with the history of success of South Hills and, yes Fred, the Edgewood Trojans. Other schools have provided an abundance of fine baseball players year in and year out. Top to bottom, total numbers, amat might be deeper than most, but I'll admit that even that's debateable. ..."
But when someone comes back with,
"...bishop amat isnt even in the same league compared to south hills...."
Well, then that's when the facts come flyin'

Did Amat grad Danny Haren start this past All Star game.

Why does everyone have to debate who is better? I am better you syndrome. Everyone get over themselves and thier school. Why can't there be more than one quality program.

And Tman isn't gay? I'm sure So Cal coaches do know some NV players BUT I said across the country nim-rod. Pub the local boys, it's all good, but leave the valley or So Cal for that matter, and your program's are unknown. Unless maybe you're old enough to remember Kieth Lockhart.

"south hill crushes the lower level lancers ",

I'm willing to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man - so I'll go first. I'd prefer to talk about players that have gone on to play in college, because it is all about education - but we can play your way. You want to go with *amount of players that have made the major leagues*?

Are you talking about major leagues like last years American League All-Star game starting pitcher Danny Haren? I'm sure that there aren't many GMs that would take SH's Aaron Small over him, although Small had a decent year for the Yankees a couple years ago.

You can even take credit for Danny Ehler, who started at amat and transferred to South Hills when he couldn't cut it. But I'm taking the lancers Mike Munoz who was at least good enough to have a 12 year career and make a few mil along the way.

You could win the head-to-head battle between Shawn Wooten and JR Phillips. But barely. Both were journeymen that played the about the same #of games. The Giants thought highly enough of JR to let Wil Clark leave. That didn't work out so well for them-something about young Charlie (his given name) not being able to hit "Uncle Charlie"! Seems that hitting a curveball separates the minor league legends from the big-time. He was a minor league legend. Then again Wootens 18 career homers won't get him enshrined either. but are we talking better major leaguers or just *the amount of players*? How do you want to play.

Perhaps we can talk about 8 yr veteran with a .281 lifetime batting average in Mike Lamb? That's about 20pts higher and 2yrs longer than your boy Jeremy Giambi and Mike knows when to slide
!:?)
Jeremy's claim to fame may be that he made Derek Jeter a legend and changed the course of a World Series. But that's good. Right?

Or maybe we should talk about better and just go with the previous years All-Star MVP and AL batting champ the year before that, Mike Young? You know, the guy the Rangers thought highly enough of that they got rid of ARod so Young could take over. .300+ career batting average and when it's all said and done, I'll match numbers (and certainly legacy) with Jason Giambi. Have the Huskies disowned him yet, or once you say your sorry is it all ok?

Do you still want to play? This is fun!

You're up!

Hehateme,
First, that name is gay that you're using here. Second, sorry but the Southern California coaches know Northview well for it's baseball. A USC shortstop now playing with the Angels, a UC Riverside SS now playing with the Dodgers, and a CSF All American and playing now with the Devil Rays all came from Northview in last 5 years. Now this may really surprise you, but I was told last weekend at the Northview / Charter oak scrimmage that Northview has the most major leaguers from one school in the San Gabriel Valley!!! Now, I'm a Charter Oak fan and friends of the Northview boys as well, but can't argue facts my friend. Bishop Amat is a football school and always will be. good luck against Woodcrest Christian this year.

Anyone know who won the Charter Oak vs Northview game this past weekend? Oh wait minute NORTHVIEW WON. Next in line, BA!

Where is Pill, Garkow, Andrade, Ponzo, Leyland, Torres, Garcia, Elias, Mistone?

bishop amat isnt even in the same league compared to south hills. The huskies crush the lancers as a better program and the amount of players that have made the major leagues. You are both the devil and a apologist.

Congratulations to the following players in the San Gabriel Valley for making the LA Times top players:

Pitcher- Noe Ramirez (Alhambra)
First Base- Jordan Foz (Bishop Amat)
First Base- Tim Smoley (Arcadia)
Third Base- Dimitri de la Fuente (South Hills)
Third Base- Ryan Arnold (Northview)

Other Players to watch:
Pitcher- Bryce Rutherford (Arcaida)
Pitcher- Brady Zuniga (Bishop Amat)
Second Base- Dante Flores (Alhambra)
Shortstop- Rich Pedroza (Northview)
Shortstop- Tommy Reyes (Bishop Amat)
Shortstop- Eric Smith (La Canada)
Outfield- David Kessler (Claremont)

That's great... now I'm an apologist.

A few short months ago I was the Devil incarnate, only out to slander the lancers and the source of everything that was wrong with amat! Now all of those football guys know that I was speaking the truth... based on facts - not opinions. Reality!

So not an apologist - a realist. The millisecond that something is wrong, guaranteed, I'll be the first to say so. Those that have read the blog long enough know that. And believe me there is still plenty wrong behind the scenes that is being chipped away at, but someday we might get back there. The difference is that their is a much higher ceiling at amat, and you can't dispute that.

Now the reality is that the SGV has long been a hotbed of baseball talent. I'm not sure that anyone can claim that amat is the best with the history of success of South Hills and, yes Fred, the Edgewood Trojans. Other schools have provided an abundance of fine baseball players year in and year out. Top to bottom, total numbers, amat might be deeper than most, but I'll admit that even that's debateable. What isn't debateable is that it all plays out on the field and you've got to beat the teams on your schedule.
The ones that CIF forces you to play AND the ones that you CHOOSE to play. Gotta say, it's pretty fun to test yourself against the best. Can everyone say that?

What you can't say is who is going to come out on top. That will happen between the lines. Rather than popping of before game time, I hope that guys like "seeyousat" let their game do the talking AFTER the first pitch.

Bassett is in a higher division than Amat? Now that is funny. Amats football team cant win so maybe they should drop a few divisions lower so they can beat up on lower level teams like Amat baseball. Joe Amat is nothing more than apologist for the school.

SGV Born and Raised,

Me too. Probably a while before you.

But please don't post something unless you really know how things work. CIF places schools in LEAGUES and then puts those LEAGUES into playoff divisions. There is not much CHOICE involved. To repeat, it would have been Amat's preference to remain with Mater Dei, Servite, Santa Margarita, etc . Lord knows why we would want to leave - we won the league in baseball the last year that we were in it. Not exactly a time that we would run from the competition - you think?
The truth of the matter is when the OC got their nice all OC Trinity League - we were banished to the Del Rey league.
So in order for us to "choose" to move up, as you claim - you expect ALL of the other Del Rey schools to go along? Remember, you are placed by LEAGUE not school.
Finally, the amat folks surely are proud of competing at the highest level in football. And we certainly take offense to claims of superiority from those that never compete at that level because you can't really compare. What you CAN compare is head-to-head competition, or at least some comparison from a common opponent. I don't think anyone hears amat people make disparaging remarks about the schedule of a Diamond Ranch or a West Covina who step onto the gridiron with some great competition during the preseason. The lancer football faithful respect Charter Oak, Damien, and Glendora for giving it a shot and scheduling amat in the past. Props to them, and we know how that turned out. Those schools can do nothing about the division that they are placed in any more than amat can. But they do something that amat baseball is doing this year, and that is schedule a challenging preseason. If you don't like where you are placed and want to claim to be the best, then step up during the part of the preseason that a school CAN control and schedule accordingly. Just like amat is doing by scheduling Chatsworth, Loyola, and entering the National Classic. They might win some and they might lose some - but they are stepping up to play someone.

BA won CIF D5 2007, no one can take that from you. Sometimes BA comes off like the Oakland Raiders, living on past glory. This is a new year. It's ok to give someone else a little credit.

I have been around the country talked to many scouts, when BA is mentioned they all know what school I am referring to. Charter Oak? Must be some kind of tree...Northview, the scenery when looking North. You other local programs will always be looking up at the mighty blue and gold. So like every other year that's past you will continue to use Amat as a measuring stick for where you want your program to be!

Hey "seeyousat",
So you beat a D4 team, big deal. Ask your coach why he chose not to go back to D1. He had his chance and said no thank you. Amat will remain D5 for the next 2 years. Did you know Bassett is in a higher division?

Please be quite bench warmer!!! CO 11 BA 3. Lighting up anyone who throws on Saturday!!!

Charter Oak your the first one in line to get your ass kicked . Then will talk about what div we are in. see you sat....

agree with Roy. Im sorry but it is D5. No matter what twist you put on it or how you try to sell it, it's D5. Its like the guy driving the Avalache with all the goddies trying who thinks it's just as good as the Escalade. No matter what you out on it or how you dress it up; it's still a Chevy! When the football postings go up, all the Amat boys talk about "they are the only D1 school in the area". Why not stick to that now? SGV is known for baseball and at this point you have better programs out there that are competing at a higher level.

haha
let's focus on THIS year.
NOT LAST YEAR.

I agree with Roy. Im sorry but it is D5. No matter what twist you put on it or how you try to sell it, it's D5. Its like the guy driving the Avalache with all the goddies trying who thinks it's just as good as the Escalade. No matter what you out on it or how you dress it up; it's still a Chevy! When the football postings go up, all the Amat boys talk about "they are the only D1 school in the area". Why not stick to that now? SGV is known for baseball and at this point you have better programs out there that are competing at a higher level.

Fred great poll. But like in soccer lets see what happen after the first week of games. Walnut wasn't rank in soccer but we beat LA,BP, and DR all top teams. Their is always team with new member that didn't play last year. So kids have fun.

Amat,
2007 is 2007 and 2008 is 2008. You Amat honks still think you're good in football and want respect in everything you do. Grant it, you won last year and that's kudos to you, but it was Div. 5 and this is 2008, not 2007. Besides, Northview has everyone back and was so close last year to a higher division cif chamnpionship, so where's the slap in the face on Fred's behalf?

Have u ever seen nothview play??? They are unbeleavable and if anything got better from last year.. You guys lost 2 starting pitchers and want to make a claim for northviews spot?? By all means take it if u can

freddie boy ur crazy for putting northview ahead of bishop amat seriously i mean u have two champions in the valley and and one champion is number three thats pretty much out of wack i think it ahould co and and then bishop amat but again saturday night will tell everything and my prediction bishop amat coming out on top and the guys to look out for are howard alcantara and torres carrillo the rest of the guys are not ready to shine

Valley vista fans be ready for some crazy games that's all I can say

man - this problem is killing the baseball thread. I have seen a few other posts and now they are gone. sorry to say but this sucks and too bad, peeps are getting so frustrated trying to post.

man - this problem is killing the baseball thread. I have seen a few other posts and now they are gone. sorry to say but this sucks and too bad, peeps are getting so frustrated trying to post.

GREAT!! RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING AND HEART OF BASEBALL SEASON! HANG IN BASEBALL FANS OUR KIDS DESERVE IT!

GREAT!! RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING AND HEART OF BASEBALL SEASON! HANG IN BASEBALL FANS OUR KIDS DESERVE IT!

I know everything is slow, this is an email I received from Josh, our Blog Tech.

From Josh
Our blogs are completely down right now. I don't know what the problem is, but I put a critical ticket into Denver, and am following up with them now. I'll update you when I know more.
This is, however, part of a larger systemic problem we've been having with our blogs over the last few months. In short, our traffic has outgrown our server's capability to support it. MNGi has begun the process of moving our blog installation to new in-house servers, which should solve these problems. The whole process should take about a month. In the meantime, we're going to have to put up with some of the server latency issues we've suffered in the last few weeks. That said, a complete outage like we have now is unacceptable and should not happen.

JOSH UPDATE:
The blogs are loading now, but at an agonizingly slow pace. It's an improvement, but still not acceptable. Denver continues to work on the problem.

Nice opening gambit Freddie,

I can't wait to see how many come on here disagreeing with your 1-10.

Not that I personally disagree with the roll call presented here, but this format, (ten best), is one where sabermatics meets rumor, innuendo, home team woofin' and ends in SWAG and that, my friends is what makes this bloggin thing ROLL.

Now we need the 10 BEST:

Catchers
Outfielders
Shortstops
Hitters
Under the Radar Guys
Leagues
Home Fields

and so on and so forth, (no best coaches though, people get way too pisey on that one).

Let the kvetching begin.

3rd attempt at posting - horrible process, takes way too long. ok, my point was it is amazing how tough the valle viste league is when 4 of your top 12 teams are from one league. pretty impressive. wins and losses in that league might not really determine how good the team really might be.