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you old men really need to find something better to do with your time.

no gonads,
Just what I thought, no spine. Well I guess case is closed, it is evident you have no pride or guts.
Just stay in your mediocre world, getting off on your hate towards AMAT .Just think , if it wasn't for AMAT just what would you be doing with all your free time. So really you should be thanking us for giving you something to live for and look forward to.

OC Athletic Supporter,

Since you seem to want to compare apples to oranges (pun intended) instead of SGV schools to SGV schools the lowly D5 Amat from the 'hood took it to Orange Lutheran from the mighty Trinity League who beat Mater Dei, Santa Margarita, Servite, JSerra, and St John Bosco in league and Mission Viejo, Huntington Beach, Tesora, and Pacifica in non league action.

And the last time our losing football team played your "mighty Monarchs" from Mater Dei, it was 28-7 lowly Lancers! That was the year the butterflies lost to Loyola in the CIF Finals who we defeated that year as well.

When you do compare apples to apples, the last season that any SGV teams stepped up to play Amat, Charter Oak, Glendora, and Damien, left those contracts behind with their tail between their legs after a collective (sorry regulars) 96-16 drubbing. South Hills and Los Altos have been smart enough not to get in that line so people like yourself can continue to speculate instead of the truth being spelled out on the field.

Is that flavor orange enough for you?

Haters,

Do you REALLY want us to drop down to your division? You KNOW what's going to happen then right? Us cleaning up the field with YOUR players!

Be careful what you wish for, it may come true.

Isn't football supppost to be BA big sport? Since 1995 LA CO and South Hills all have won mulitple titles while BA has won one. Lets talk about that shall we? You hired a coach whose last record was 10-27. The losing shall continue at BA and I will be right here laughing in all of your faces. This is what's funny.

It would be impossible to "slant" questions in any direction if there were no facts to back them up. That's all I wanted to do was discuss *facts* not your feelings about a school or a program.

I'll make it more simple for you. No slant intended. Here goes: This decade - San Gabriel Valley - any school - CIF Championships - any and all sports. Let's hear the totals.

Anyone?... Anyone?... Bueller?... Bueller?
http://gotwavs.com/0058536645/WAVS/Movies/Ferris_Buelers_Day_Off/bueller.wav

That opens it up to your badminton or tiddlywinks championships if you want to count those too.

Go for it!

For the record I support OC schools where the real sports are played. I come on to this blog to laugh at people like you who think they have a good school when reality is its in the "hood"

Amat 73 just what I thought. You have no balls. Case closed

fans have no,
Still dodging the questions asked of you. No pride or no guts or no b_lls . Either way you will keep that to yourself and just mouth off about other people . We may not post our name but as I said make no mistake who we back. Not like your spineless ass, or are you to embarassed of the reaction you would receive by posting it. If you read my questions to you they are not slanted towards AMAT they are questions about your character and who back.

and you're from where? I didn't catch that? what school are you from - and what have they won?

Amat 73 all you do is hide behind you're made up name. If you are so loyal why don't you and Joe Amat really admit who you are?. If you were really proud of Amat you wouldn't hide behind a name and a year you graduated or your IQ number. Come out and admit who you are or don't you have the balls to do it?

And why should I have to answer questions that are all slanted to you Amat honks? 3/4th's of Joe Amats questions were a joke and consider 2/5th's of them Amat was only ahead by one day which means they shared the most recent titles. And as has been stated before most of those were against lower level competition.

As I said before the only good sport at Amat these days is Girls basketball which is fitting because you and Joe Amat both act like you wear skirts. I just hope you don't wear those skirts around your women.

No truth to Morrison being fired or resigning, talked to school officials today, and everything is fine.

stay away , not going or whatever you go by,
Why don't you answer the questions posed to you instead of just continuing your hate for AMAT. Could it be that feeble little mind of yours can't get past the fact you hate our school and you just can't think straight when you hear or see AMAT mentioned. As for myself and all the AMAT bloggers at least we have the b_lls to say who we are loyal to and not hide behide a new name everytime we post. Make no mistake we are LANCERS and damn proud of it. That is more than you can say about yourself and whoever you are backing or is it because you have no pride in your alma mater.

As far as 2007 baseball is concerned while we already talked about Monrovia and Eddie McKiernan (who also beat Covina and shut out Charter Oak 8-0 BTW) -the Lancers also also beat Temple City - beat South Hills, Montclair Prep-who beat Notre Dame Sherman Oaks., Calvary Chapel Murrieta-who beat Gladstone and legendary coach Rich Remkus., Swept St Paul-who shut out Glendora, Beat Orange Lutheran-who beat Mater Dei, Santa Margarita, Servit, and St John Bosco in league, Beat 24-3 Crescenta Valley in the finals of the Glendora Tourney after also beating Glendora, Northview, and 20-7 Rubidoux (who beat CIF Champion Charter Oak) along the way.

And there is no way to downplay the defeat of Artesia or the competition faced by the last San Gabriel Valley team to win a CIF Championship when Amat won their title. Artesia was a number one seed and has won multiple state championships and has long been one of the top high school basketball programs in the NATION. During that year and those surrounding the Lancers faced players like Jordan Farmar(UCLA/Lakers), Bryant Marxson (Utah)Fred Washington (starts at Stanford), Chase Budinger (one of the best players in the nation at Arizona), Khalief Ford (Southern Illinois) Bryce Sheldon (South Carolina), Dreshwane Vance (Portland) Dwight O'Neil (Fresno State)Tony Dandridge (New Mexico State) and a host of other DI and scholarship players along the way.

No one else can post that list of opponents in the SGV and you don't even want to come up with a similar list for football. You also can never say that the competition has hurt the number of Lancers that receive college athletic scholarships, which far outnumber other SGV schools. You forget that the scouts come to see the players that we play also - so they also get an opportunity to see Amat play at the same time.

No matter how hard you try to discredit the competition, those seasons are still full of quality wins, and defeats of teams that beat the rest of the SGV hands down.

stay away,
Why don't YOU stay away from this thread? Like it or not, Amat has been, is, and always will be stand out school in the valley and on this blog. The number of posts on our threads proves it.

When was the last time your no name school was the talk of the town? I say never.

there will be no turn around at Amat. Your administration is horrible and continues to blow it. The only people who believe that are donks like you and Joe Amat who are blinded by your allegiance.

stay away,
So what you are saying is go to lower division schools for football so you can win championships instead of being a part of a turn around, which is going to happen to the dismay of all the haters out there, and compete at the highest level, PAC -5 and really have your talent showcased against the best the SoCal area has to offer. Now who is happy with mediocrity.

Bishop Amat= beats crappy competition.The only legimate titles are girls basketball which most people dont care about.

I hope Amat73 donk and Joe" the wacko" Amat are happy beating teams like little sisters of the poor. Enjoy your "lower level" championships.

Kids and parents. Keep going to CO, LA, South Hills and the like. Going to Amat will only cause you headaches. Look at all the recent kids to leave. There are plenty of good schools and football teams in this area to pick from. Stay away from Amat which plays lower level competition has a horrible adminstration and has nothing but coaching problems.

Someone asked a while back what Paracletes' record was before Hagerty got there in '92 and won his Back-to-Back-to-Back CIF Titles.

They won ZERO games in the previous SEVEN seasons according to the LA Times. That's an 0-70 record. Decent turnaround of ab obvious losing culture!

oneanddone,
Where do you get we are happy being mediocre.We are thrilled that we won the title in the division we compete in.If we didn't win the title or didn't even make the playoffs and were satisfied with that, then you have a point.We can only do what we can till CIF raises us to a higher division which I am sure alot of people will say is not high enough if we win there also. I don't think CIF will raise a D-5 team to D-1 in one season . As you can tell by what has been going on with the football program we are never happy with being mediocre.Do we belong in this division in baseball ? No, but that decision is made by CIF not us so we play with the cards we are dealt. If we were happy with being mediocre as you say, we would be saying the answer to our football problems is to drop to a lower division to win championships again.

I'm pretty certain that you don't want to debate the Girls 4 STATE Championship appearances in a row beating teams like Muir, Bishop Montgomery, and St Mary's - facing some of the best female basketball players in the country. Their record of 116-14 over the past 4 years can't be questioned.

Lat season the baseball team beat Monrovia in the final with Eddie McKiernan, the returning CIF player of the year and drafted by the Angels, but instead chose a Division I scholarship to UNLV(he was also recruited by Arizona State, Long Beach State and Cal State Fullerton-some pretty good programs). Eddie was 12-1 with a 0.73 ERA going into the final (his ERA in the final was over 13.0) A team can only compete where CIF puts their LEAGUE and outside of league and playoffs, the Lancers continue to schedule a tough non-league schedule facing teams like Loyola, Chatsworth and entering the National Classic.

The Boys Basketball team had three Del Rey teams in league that were in the CIF Finals in three different divisions. Tough League? Bishop Montgomery (who had Fred Washington-starter at Stanford who the Lancers beat) defeated Aaron Afflalo's (now with the Detroit Pistons) Compton Centennial squad while Serra got upended by Verbum Dei (heard of them?) in the CIF final. Some decent teams and players there-yes? Amat Beat #1 seed Artesia and their 7 scholarship players in the Semis on their way to their CIF title. Artesia's a pretty good basketball program - 'ya think? Since then Artesia won the title the next year, 3 since that year, and a runner-up to Santa Margarita mixed in. That's a Lower Level division?

What people continue to miss by selectively choosing to live in the past that THEY choose to remember - is that, unlike the "old days", now with *Open Enrollment* in California and the liberal 8th grade school selection and 9th grade transfer rule - ***No School has any boundaries*** We all are now on an equal playing field. The school that offers the best option for students academically and athletically will be the ones who endure. And, believe it or not, private schools must be like Avis and "Try Harder!"

Believe it or don't - tuition is a huge hurdle. Everyone has their "stories" about hearing of these massive scholarships offered to athletes. Myths, Urban legends, and old wives tales! It makes a dad's kid sound pretty important when he can say over a pitcher after a JAA game that he's been "offered a scholarship". I've been on the other end of a couple of those claims when I KNOW them to be untrue. An old coach once told me, "don't believe everything you here and only half of what you see." The school has no formal financial aid program while there is some "financial aid" thru the Diocese. Usually these are not full scholarships but tuition reduction. As many have said here - you can go to CO,LA and SH for free and play for Ferrar, Bogan or Gano - good options compared to amat recently. Hopefully that will change - I think that it will.

Private schools have no automatic 1,000 student middle school feeders across the street and their natural feeders are private elementary/middle schools spread across the region with 30-60 students in each 8th grade class. There is no natural Pop Warner/JAA program practicing at their fields that feed directly to the school or city NJB basketball program in their gym every weekend. You can go to a dozen schools in the valley and see this every weekend. Yet it is an "outrage" when someone suggests that the Dukes help the Amat baseball program.

This is not so much to cry the whoas of privat education or look for excuses as much to say to any Lancer that reads this that it is simply NOT good enough to go around shouting that "Mighty Are The Men That Wear the Blue and Gold":, "Amat Will Shine", "On Blue" or "Steadfast Loyal and True" and assume that that is automatically true and it is a given right to be successful or the best. It is not to be assumed that you can just open the doors, plug in any coach, toss out the balls and the athletes will come and outperform everyone else.

No, you must be like Avis, and "Try Harder!"

Ok, correction....2007 Baseball
I am not a hater of Amat, just wish for a school like that not to be happy with being mediocre. The success of the school over the past 4 decades in atletics was based on competing against the best and doing very well, it's said to see they are settling with sub-par competition in divisions they do not belong!

oneanddone (perfect name for you on VALENTINE's Day!!lmao...)

Again, 2006????

Get your facts/info straight!! (At least the year!!)

Why are you so Anti-Amat??

Don't you have to go to Homeroom now???

Follow up for Joe Amat and his faithfuls.....2006 CIF Baseball Title - Bishop Amat, Division 5 road to win it.....
La Puente, Calvary Murrieta, Montclair Prep, Temple City, Monrovia
2006 CIF Baseball Title - Long Beach Wilson, Division 1 road to win it.....
Arlington, Simi Valley, El Modena, Esperanza, Canyon (Anaheim)
So, according to Joe, when Duke gets pushed down to NCAA Division 3 in Basketball and wins it all, its all good!
Amat belongs in Div 1 and needs to settle for nothing less! When you win it there, then and only then, will you receive the props for the SGV!

This just in, Damien is firing Morrison and A.D. Carroll is resigning tomorrow. There will be a press release at 9am. Can't believe this...total crap! Morrison had thr program on the verge of creating a championship atmosphere. Haters aside, those that know the man know that he stands for everything that is right in sports. God bless he and his family. Spartans...no glory, just time to pick up the pieces.

Joe, you finally answered your own questions. Now, go ahead and post who Amat, CO and SH beat to win those titles!
Watch out....it will only prove the thoughts of all around that Amat wins them in inferior Divisions. You seem to feel that winning a championship while competing in a division that is inferior to which you should be competing is quite fine with everyone. The only thing it proves is Amat can't compete with the "big dogs"!
This coming from a school which has NO boundries & talent from all over the southland!
Let me help you start by answering the beginning of this post....Amat beat Monrovia to win last years CIF title in Division 5!

When was the last time Joe Amat had his brain checked?
He doesn't have one

When was the last time Joe Amat had a life?
He doesn't have one

When was the last time Joe Amat had a date?
When he went out with Frank Corona

Naming La Puente was just proving a point. You are big on word play. For example,
"So, technically, the Lancers do hold the title of the last school to win a baseball championship in the SGV."

So you clarified it by putting CIF. Nothing more

Did homer really post a league title. La Puente Warriors 2008 Montview Bball champs.... Thats too funny. lol

Homer,
At Amat we only hang CIF banners. I'll help you

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a CIF Boys Basketball Championship?

Amat 2002 (no Valley team since then. Montview League Champs?)

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a CIF Girls Basketball Championship?

Amat 2006 (Diamond Ranch won theirs the night before)

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a CIF Boys Baseball Championship?

Amat June 2, 2007 (CO's was the day before_

When was the last time a San Gabriel Valley School won a CIF Boys Dual-Meet Wrestling Championship?

South Hills Saturday night(Congrats to the Huskies!) Amat lost to Loara in the finals the same night
(prior to this season - Amat 2007

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Basketball Championship?

La Puente Warriors 2008 Montview Bball champs to name one

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Girls Basketball Championship?

Amat two years ago

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Baseball Championship?

Charter Oak and Amat

When was the last time a San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Dual-Meet Wrestling Championship?

South Hills 2008

Meds,

Apparently you give a crap. You're posting on our thread.

big time transfers are on the way? I hope its all legal. better check those records

rumor has it that old hags is already getting some work in and some big time transfers are on the way. looking good for the blue and gold!!

there are 188 posts right here and many others on other topics that say that you do

Joe
Go take your meds. No one gives a crap about Amat

mr weak,

The questions continue to be asked because you have failed to answer them. Let me ask them a different way,

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Basketball Championship?

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Girls Basketball Championship?

When was the last time any San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Baseball Championship?

When was the last time a San Gabriel Valley School won a Boys Dual-Meet Wrestling Championship?

Those are simple questions. Really.

someone kick joe amats wheelchair. He keeps repeating the same dumb question. Amat has won those at lower levels. Get some balls and play better competition. Those titles are all WEAK.

good points about Amat. The only way they have been able to win anything besides girls basketball is to drop from Division 1 down to 4 or 5. Move baseball and wrestling back to division 1 and they dont win squat. And I wouldnt bring up boys basketball right now as that program is a big as mess as football is

When you brag about Amat Joe have the balls to admit they are winning against weaker competition. It is time to put football down to division 10 so they can finally win some football games ha ha

Posted by: amat wins against weaker team at February 13, 2008 11:32 AM

WOW... From my understanding, (at least for wrestling) CIF goes by a formula to divide up the division. I believe that formula goes by how many qualify for CIF, masters, and the state meet. Im sure the schools like Loara, Morro Bay, Quartz Hill, etc. Would beg to differ when called "weaker teams". FYI.. Amat wrestling has never been in D1.

You continue to talk about Amat, but answer these questions:
What was the last SGV school to a CIF Boys Basketball Championship?
How about Girls Basketball?
Baseball?
Dual-Meet Wrestling?
and...
How's your school been doing?

good points about Amat. The only way they have been able to win anything besides girls basketball is to drop from Division 1 down to 4 or 5. Move baseball and wrestling back to division 1 and they dont win squat. And I wouldnt bring up boys basketball right now as that program is a big as mess as football is

When you brag about Amat Joe have the balls to admit they are winning against weaker competition. It is time to put football down to division 10 so they can finally win some football games ha ha

Joe, lets not forget about CO also winning a CIF title in baseball last year in a division that is alot better than your boys in Division 5 and thats also what your wrestling team competes at!! I will give your girls basketball a little props but come on now.....win one at a division in which you belong...Division 1!
Oh wait, you did in baseball a few years ago and were mildly successful but one and done in the playoffs in your last appearance and were unable to win a league while competing against the likes of MD, SM, Servite!
Tell you what....lets drop your football team down to the 8-man division so you can win it and then you can go around and "thump your chest" showing of your rings!

Posted by: oneanddone at February 13, 2008 7:17 AM

CO wrestling is in D5 with Amat. They were in D5 last year too.. What's your point?

oneanddone,

Somewhat of a "trick question". CO won their title on June 1st while the Lancers got their ring the next day, on June 2.

So, technically, the Lancers do hold the title of the last school to win a baseball championship in the SGV.

oneanddone,

Just an fyi... 2006 Amat Lancers WERE Serra League Baseball Champs!! Lost in the 2nd round to the eventual D1 Champion Lakewood High School.

Hmmmm, that's pretty good isn't it??

Props to CO, they took care of business last year as well, and YES Amat should have competed in a higher division...

Let's see how they do this year.. They're in the National Classic etc....

Just get your info straight...

Joe, lets not forget about CO also winning a CIF title in baseball last year in a division that is alot better than your boys in Division 5 and thats also what your wrestling team competes at!! I will give your girls basketball a little props but come on now.....win one at a division in which you belong...Division 1!
Oh wait, you did in baseball a few years ago and were mildly successful but one and done in the playoffs in your last appearance and were unable to win a league while competing against the likes of MD, SM, Servite!
Tell you what....lets drop your football team down to the 8-man division so you can win it and then you can go around and "thump your chest" showing of your rings!

lets talk about old men in their 50's with no life hanging on a blog all day??

Jtl,

Lets talk about the present then-like the last five years. Maybe you can answer my 5 questions:
Guess what was the last SGV school to a CIF Boys Basketball Championship?
How about Girls Basketball?
Baseball?
Dual-Meet Wrestling?
How's your school been doing?

rumor has it that old hags is already getting some work in and some big time transfers are on the way. looking good for the blue and gold!!

JD Try Charles Manson.com

butt darts? that must be an Amat fan

JD....

You need to relax!! Go hang out with another GREAT Damien Alum.... Daryl Henley!!!

At the rate you're going you'll be his cellmate soon!!

Joe the loser,
Unlike you I have a life and don't need to look into the past. Since you and moron machine both are old men who act like kids enjoy sitting around getting wasted talking about the "old" times more power to ya. If you want to waste 50 dollars on some waste full dinner that's your poor choice. The only people who wants to hear that garbage are the Amat loser fans.

It's sad and funny that men in their 50's sit on a computer and act like they are 15. You and moron machine should start dating. Losers who flock together.

Nothing wrong with a dad being proud of his kids
and mentioning their accomplishments on this board, thats no reason to put the kids down, if he came on here and said my kid is better than your kid, or any other kid, then I could see other people getting upset, but I haven't seen MM do that on this board. Don't know what kind of history you have with MM but whatever it is, it sounds like your bitterness is eating you up, better to just let it go, are you actually going to pick a fight over some silly blog post? I
know Damien taught you better than that,your starting to look a little silly JD.

well mr corona like beating up high school kids huh? You know every time you type you reach new lows. You leave the kids at home or the kids are afraid to be around a father whose nuts?

waste of 50 dollars,

The cocktail party started at 5 - we got out closer to midnight. Quite a bit of history - and some not so distant. A bunch of "The List" was present. You could have snagged some autographs. Everyone likes to talk about Amat living in the past, but the present has not been so bad compared to the rest of the SGV.

Guess what was the last SGV school to a CIF Boys Basketball Championship? How about Girls Basketball? Baseball? Dual-Meet Wrestling?

How's your school been doing?

Just curious, Does Damien have a past ? Or a future?

I got an Idea instead of asking JD to whup my ass why don't I warm up with you...Dude are you STILL in High School?

Grown men fighting...Damien education at it's best.....hell I could have done this at my old alma mater....at least there they tell you to your face they don't like you and don't wait 3 freakin years to work up the courage to say so. And ususally they just calll you up and meet at your house. Then have a beer. Here it's all drama. ohhhhhhhh I'm so crushed and scared!

See you at the game....it's away right? That should work.

Funny thing is I don't know ANY parent or PLAYER at that school I don't like...but I ain't running from a shadow I've never even meet. I come by myself and leave the kids at home.

Amat Salute to Athletic Excellence dinner? That must have been a short dinner. Why would Fred waste his time at an a** kissing event like that?

Really Joe not many on this blog care about a bunch of old men getting together and kissing butt about the past. I guess all you can do is look back because the future at Amat doesnt look good at all.

Joe , thanks for sharing.Would have liked to have been there

We haven't had any updates on the Amat Salute to Athletic Excellence dinner on Saturday yet - so I thought that I'd bring one. Fred, you should have been there and at worst call the school and get a copy of the DVD so you get a feel for the 50 yrs of history and the story behind each Championship year. It would be great to have as a resource for future stories.

There was a lotta love going on in the gym that night with over 500 guests(@$50/plate) and the chance to hear the legends like Cantwell, Marinovich and McLaughlin, former pros like Adrian Young and John Sciarra, as well as the more recent coaches, speak made it worth every penny. All were, amazingly really good speakers and should hit the circuit. Some great and entertaining stories, some motivational statements about the special place that Amat has been, the tributes to Lancer Coaches that are now in a Better Place, plenty of memorabilia, and some great jokes made for a spectacular evening.

The impromptu "coaches meeting" in the corner of the Student Activity Center after the event was a telling sign. Some of the old school assistants that have been mentioned were in attendance, so the rumors of Mulvihill return and others is a done deal. It will be a good mix of veterans and young blood. But the renewed attitude and commitment to a great work ethic and physical/mental toughness is what will bring the Lancers back.

The moment that made you squirm was when Mark Verti stepped up to the mike to introduce Coach Salter - that must have been tough, but MV handled it well. Patricio, Parades, and Martinez (all "outsiders' and not originally Amat guys) all talked about how special the place was and "always being a Lancer".

The feeling at the pre-dinner cocktail party and around the room was reminiscent of the change in attitude in the basketball program when Lokar was hired. THings were a little tough among the players and parents at that time, even though there was some talent. Most of our successful coaching changes have involved an assistant moving up, but these two are old time alumni/former assistants coming home. Hagerty will be the kind of "players coach" that Lokar was for his guys. That "renewed"enthusiasm will be a much needed shot in the arm and the players will play with a different kind of confidence that should show an improved performance.

Lokar did have one of the best jokes of the night when he congratulated Hags on stage and said that getting hired at your alma mater was like dying and going to heaven. So he told a story about him and Coach Leduc from Glendora (he was a former GHS assistant) in heaven with St Peter and LeDuc complaining that he had to stay for eternity in some little cabin while Lokar got a big mansion at the top of the hill that had a big flag with the Amat "A" atop a golden flagpole. St Peter told him that wasn't Lokar's house - it was God's house.(it was longer, more descriptive - and he told it better!)

But the bottom line is - God's a Lancer fan!

My Point EXACTLY!!!

So sensitive!!

HAHAHAHAHA Laughing at YOU AGAIN!!

a local dad,
when you come by my million dollar house in your trash truck picking up my trash I will be happy to explain the benefits of a Damien education compared to sending your kid to " the hood"

you amat people truly are a bunch of lame asses. I smell jealousy over Damien being a better school.

Daley when you open up a can of whoop ass on Corona have someone video it and post it on youtube. I would pay to see it happen

a local dad. you send your kids to BA. Damien like quality students anyway.

Posted by: send them to the hood at February 12, 2008 3:07 PM
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Hahahahaha!!! Great ENG-RISH... Also, don't you know how to use the shift-key or Caps on your keyboard???

This thread is sooooo freaking funny...

Be cool all!! Lmao.....

Now relax out there, lets get back to talking about important information. We all have mispelled somewhere on these blogs, I think it is because we are passionate about our football...

Is there any indication as to who will be on the Amat Staff next year?? I am hearing all sorts of different situations from Minor to Sermons. What is up???

John Daley,

It's also YOU'RE not YOUR. Be sure when you ask for a refund, have them tack interest on it too.

Now go back to YOUR bus and have another smoke and a beer.

And quality Dads apparently!

Are you serious...do you think this is high school?

What am I suppose to do meet him in the parking lot after ...uuummmm school...oppps errrrrr...after WORK?

Get a clue JD and have another drink. You might have been the BMOC back in the day but we're all men in here...except LOWER CASE and that sh8t don't fly in the real world.

I've got a question...how long did it take to come up with you to do their "dirty work".....or did you volunteer? Shortest straw? After a few BEER BONG HITS?

You sure you went to Damien?....you're sounding more like a student from Jackson!

lol

john daly from 93,
Maybe you should ask for some tuition money refunded . It is threw not through.Look it up or don't they teach that at damien.Now why would I let damien get under my skin.We have beaten you since my time,which my friend,is a long time to be eating crow. As far as me throwing our kids under the bus you are sadly mistaken. Never happened and never will. I have to much respect for our LANCERS to have that ever happen . Look it up in the archives and find the post to back your bu_ _ sh_t up.

a local dad. you send your kids to BA. Damien like quality students anyway.

high school pay per view fight Frank " the loser" Corona vs John" the hit man" Daley. 49.99 per ticket. early odds are 1/9 with daley kicking his *** Get your tickets early fight fans!

man i love this blog. this is better than jerry springer

man i love this blog. this is better than jerry springer

Wow...

Was thinking of sending my boys to Damien... If that's what I can look forward to 15 years after graduation, no thanks!

Wasn't this a thread about Amats new coach?

Keep it cool, people!! Every school has "their" own dirt.... so what!

Let's get back on subject... Any word on Assistants at Amat? Did they FINALLY CAN Manzo too??? Hope Hags is the new AD as well!!

Bring back, "the thrill" Mulvehill, Hamby, Escalera, Pace....

Getting back on topic here....

Amat Alum. Intersting observation here however, while I do agree that in the best case seniario, Amat go's 7-3 (just like you posted).

My personal take is that, this years schedual is filled with a lot more possible "pitfalls" than meets the eye.

For example, yes, I think Amat should have beaten Los Osos last year. And this game, assuming it is the first one of the year, will be a very very strong indicator of what progress, if any, the new coach has made with this program.

Will he make the special teams and offense better ? Will he be able to make the halftime adjustments that Verti seemingly could not ?

With that in mind, do you recall one of the biggest gripes on Verti ? It was his inability to make those halftime adjustmenst during games. So often, there were instances where he's teams where "in it." only to get blown out in the second half. It happened against Los Osos and, Hart (the year before) and even at the Alamany game to name a few.

Even Verti said it himself, in one instance, when he explained the Crespi loss. "We played a good first half." Well, the game has two halfs not one.

Anyway, assumig that los Osos game goes real, real well, then OL is a true indicator of this new coach's skill's. If the team wins, or even if they lose by a close margin, then a lot of people will be jumping on the bandwagon. But, if they get blow us out(especialy on special teams like last year) then he had better "run for cover !"

The rest of the schedual (assuming it is correct) will not be easy. Even the games where you think were suppose to win handeley.

I dont think the game Chaminade is a given. Remember, they beat Canyon last year and Canyon beat Crespi. I know, we defeated them the year before but....well, we'll see on that one.

Same for St Francis. We won there also, but if you recall, it was on the last play of the game.

So, the bottem line is...we'll see right ??

DEAL!

Getting back on topic here....

Amat Alum. Intersting observation here however, while I do agree that in the best case seniario, Amat go's 7-3 (just like you posted).

My personal take is that, this years schedual is filled with a lot more possible "pitfalls" than meets the eye.

For example, yes, I think Amat should have beaten Los Osos last year. And this game, assuming it is the first one of the year, will be a very very strong indicator of what progress, if any, the new coach has made with this program.

Will he make the special teams and offense better ? Will he be able to make the halftime adjustments that Verti seemingly could not ?

With that in mind, do you recall one of the biggest gripes on Verti ? It was his inability to make those halftime adjustmenst during games. So often, there were instances where he's teams where "in it." only to get blown out in the second half. It happened against Los Osos and, Hart (the year before) and even at the Alamany game to name a few.

Even Verti said it himself, in one instance, when he explained the Crespi loss. "We played a good first half." Well, the game has two halfs not one.

Anyway, assumig that los Osos game goes real, real well, then OL is a true indicator of this new coach's skill's. If the team wins, or even if they lose by a close margin, then a lot of people will be jumping on the bandwagon. But, if they get blow us out(especialy on special teams like last year) then he had better "run for cover !"

The rest of the schedual (assuming it is correct) will not be easy. Even the games where you think were suppose to win handeley.

I dont think the game Chaminade is a given. Remember, they beat Canyon last year and Canyon beat Crespi. I know, we defeated them the year before but....well, we'll see on that one.

Same for St Francis. We won there also, but if you recall, it was on the last play of the game.

So, the bottem line is...we'll see right ??

man i love this blog. this is better than jerry springer.

GET A LIFE LOSER! YOU'VE BEEN AT IT ALL DAY!

SURE YOU HAVE A LIFE...MISS SCHOOL? NOPE YOU'RE AN ADULT WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PRETEND YOU'RE THE MAN.

What's the matter no one hugged you as a kid....people laugh at you at work, or your life's in a rutt.

what a loser!

"and isn't that IRONIC?"

AMAT '73

Damien is located in LaVerne, not Glendora.

amat73 you have no clue about la verne. You are talking out your old *** as usual.

Fred, this will keep you out of trouble

Too many KKK's in your hood for me. No pun intended.

Please, everyone calm down in here, football doesn't start for seven more months. Stop with the personal attacks, I don't have time to monitor this with all the playoff stuff going on right now. Please, stick to the topics and think before you send.

Amat 73. You are most likely as old as Moron Machine so I would expect you to you defend him. Don't you old people have anything better to do than to yap on this blog daily?.

As i have said earlier if people don't want their kids talked about don't bring them up on this blog. Moron Machine comes on here and goes on and on about his kick jacking up an ill advised 3 pointer late in a game and about his other kid being a debate geek who will most likely end up at Mt Sac instead of Harvard like he proclaims. It's a simple answer. Don't brag about your kids in a public forum.

Also as for my comment being weak calling BA " the LaPuente hood". Is it really that weak? Compare the two cities Damien and BA are in. Would you rather live in LaVerne a nice family type town that people actually desire to move to or LaPuente with all the gang bangers Raider fans and where people try to get out of town rather than move there? Case closed

If that the type of person you call a man. If you would bother to read what we are writing about it's the fact that why put down the kids when pharms beef is with Mean Machine. Yes some of the AMAT people do come on here and vent about the coaches and so forth but that is dealing with adults not calling out someones kids. Also a very weak reply about the La Puente Hood . Try to be a little more original. Must have ruffled your feathers with the how it's done at Damien comment. Well if the shoe fits wear it.

pharms,
Dont listen to these morons here. Speak your mind. People tolerate the Bulls*** that comes from Moron Machine (Frank Corona) yet when you call him out they jump all over you. I find your truthful comments refreshing. Keep them coming.

Amat 73 considering how most of the Amat people act on this blog I wouldnt be calling out how things are done at Damien. You people in the "La Puente Hood" have your own issues about bashing coaches and whining about the losing culture at Amat.

Trojan loser Considering you just had a kid you should be spending your time with your wife and baby and not on some blog. Diaper changing time little man! ha ha

pahrms2010,

Seems like you've been made too. Quit hiding behind your kids graduating class with your name and leave his kids out of this. If you have a beef with the guy, nut up and face him instead of doing it on this blog.

At least everyone knows who he is and he doesn't hide it, what's your excuse?

pahrms 2010,
On your post from feb 11th you write like your a parent now you sound like a student . Which one are you.

These guys are way out of control Fred. I mean we all take our jabs now and again but this is boarderline. Mean Machine and I have not always seen eye to eye, but he voices his opinion, that's whay this blog is about son, which ever student this is at Damien, be a true Spartan and get your butt to school.

Are you kidding me. My parents would love to kick this guy's butt. My dad can't stand him. As for telling him to his face, Mr. Corona knows exactly what's waiting for him. He and and my dad have had their words, remember Mr. I want me kid transfered out of that class. Give me a break. This guy gets on here and blogs crap day in and day out and you guys support it. That's the real shame. As for his kid, your right, I'll let this go off the blog and take care of his candy ass the next time he decides to pass off his habit for someone else. Word to the wise here gentelman, talk to your kids, we are not like we are at home. Mr. Corona, ask your son about "the fix" he will deny it but you should truly look into it.

Jcaz and Tom vs Jack....Thanks

At least someone had the decency to say something. ALWAYS THE KIDS... is that low or what?

pahrms 2010,
You really do not have to bring the man's kids into this b_llsh_t battle you have going on with Mean Machine. thru reading the blogs I am sure everyone knows this goes back along way with alot of Damien parents. Whatever you know or think you know about his son you should keep it to yourself or have enough class to tell the man himself instead of your inuendo (puff) that you put out there for all to read. Maybe that's the way it's done at Damien but keep your sh_t to yourselves and quit attacking the kids.

You guys are right, I am an idiot. I apoligize for thinking I'm the smartest man in the universe. I love my kids no matter how sorry they are, they are still my pretty babies. AHHHHH! Somebody help me.

I agree Trojan Man. But, isn't it funny how upset Mr. Corona became when he was finally challenged on some issues? I thought it was pretty funny. Almost as funny as his kids. Yes I said it, this guy deserves it and if you knew his kid on the wrestling squad (couldn't cut it on the football field) you would understand why. He has the wool pulled right over his dad's eyes. Puff, puff Mr. Corona. Be nice or I'll have to get Mrs. Carter on your butt! I think she's number 1000 on the list of students and parents who can't stand you. Time to move on, hear Amat might be looking for some asst. coaches...you should apply. Your a shoe in!!!

THIS is the reason I have NOT been blogging . You guys are taking this shi* WAY to serious !

GROW UP

TM

wow

jcaz you are wrong. Moron machine brings up his kids. If anyone should stop talking about him he should. When he brings them in here they are fair game. If you dont want them talked about then he shouldnt bring them up himself. I do agree that kids should be off limits but if someone is going to come on here flapping your gums about them expect comments from the peanut gallery.

Pahrms2010

Look, this blog gives us all an opportunity to express our feelings with regards to high school spots.

It's fun and informative and a geat forum, however, it does not have to be way to personal here.

I realize of course that there are times when someones feelings are hurt and ya got to somehow get even, but there is no reason, no matter how much you dislike anyone, for someone to come in here and bash another bloggers kids.

That, in my opinion is crossing the line. To be honest with you, I dont have a horse in this race, but to bring in "Mean Machines" kids in the manner you did is really low dude !

Post your thoughts, and be free to express your likes or dislikes, but keep the mans kids out of this ok.

There is no reason for you to go after his kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4G1lr30bzc

No Harm No Foul

TM

that must be his son

Mean Machine or Frank or however you are....Keep posting my man. You blogs are funny and I like the way you speak your mind. Plain and simple, you enjoy HS football in the area. You have a right to blog. Everyone has an opinion. Its free :) We hate the truth!!!!!

So mean machine is frank corona huh? Always nice to rat out a poser. btw moron machine there are a lot of people who cant stand you. Maybe its time you start your own blog and just talk to yourself.

"Maybe I'm a jerk"
There is no maybe about it. The people at Damien don't like you so you come in here to whine like the little baby that you call others. You are nothing more than a hypocrite.

Now we understand why you are so bitter because you were not accepted at Damien. You were upset that no one offered you a coaching job when you are a legend in your own mind. Parhms is right stop embarrassing your kids by talking about them on this blog.

You are an adult act like one. Talking about panties and hard-ons. Come on man. I sure hope your kids don't read this blog. It's time for Moron Machine to find another hobby.

expected? ...do you mean accepted?

At least you could speaka engalish when you atalka to a me ah!
lol

Amat 73.. I agree with your point about loyalty...but in sports it's suppose to be "best man wins"...but I see your point!

In some cases , maybe like Wells and McBride, it frees the coach to play a player only one way. Other times, and maybe this is what you're talking about...is when coaches go out and RECRUIT starters over what the school already has....that does suck.

Either way it's tough...but no tougher than a soph. starting at QB for 3 years or how about Barkley at Mater Dei...what will it be...starting Varsity QB for 4 years? That's what happens in sports. Best man gets the start...but everyone should get reps...in a perfect world.

Oh I'm crushed. Morrison doesn't need cursing. Being .500 over 5 years tells you everything you need to know. Maybe you missed the Ayala Game fiasco and all those angry parents and Alumni talking crap to each other in the 5th Q or the parents that talk behind Morrison's back and then kiss his ass for their son's playing time. (Most were starters by the way) Stop accusing others of something you Damien guys do ALL THE TIME. B#TCH LIKE NO OTHER!

As far as anything else....UpPeRcAsElOwErCaSe...hard-on stalker.

I'll comsider the source and not relive the gargage that was last year.

Maybe you put pieces together from the things you back read ...but I don't have geeky looking kids....and no one kissed my butt....even though your head seems to be there right now.

As far as Hagerty...my question is what happened at Riverside Poly...Honest question...my hope is that Amat will rebound....hopefully he the guy to do it. That was a point that was made in comparing Hagerty's hire with Pete Carroll's at the time their careers were/are similiar. If you don't inderstand something it doesn't mean it's STUPID just that you are. If hgerty wins again than like Carroll people will forget his failures....like I said before , winning cures all ills.

Why the kid comments? As far as winning at the HS level?

2 City Championship, various league titles, various City Championship games and...do you really care? Winning Varsity Tournaments...dude you know that...lol

As far as the Damien parents....'nuff said.

Next year will be fun. By the way who's the new QB? That's 3 QBs in 3 years...maybe even 4 ...great way to build a program, As far as RBs 4 in 4 years. Nice! By the way what happened to all the he's" FIRED" talk? Wasn't it a done deal with Monger taking over? At least that's what former coaches told me and everyone within earshot at the playoff game.

Maybe I'm a jerk and I think the coaching needs help but then again isn't that what Oregon said? Oregon to Nevada...now that's WAC!

I'll stop now and cry that some anonymous stalker hates me....boo f'ning who? Get in line.

Blue and Gold...maybe you're right! LOL Either way I'll enjoy myself no matter what anyone writes. Unless they come clean and tell me their name. ..that's only fair. It's always the guy "who hasn't written or been on the blog...IN A WHILE...yet feels COMPELLED to diss me. F them. So what. Next time they pay my bills I'll listen to what they have to say....until then...don't like what I write...eat S**t.

Was that too mean Fred?

As Fred well knows not every side of me is mean. But hey it's just a game...life is what really matters. Best of luck StAlKeR!

Transfers are nice but we owe alot to the kids who gutted it out the past 2 years and stayed true to the program . They are truly the heart of the BLUE and GOLD. I am sure coach Hagerty will do the right thing.

Word is there will be approx. 7 transfers coming into Amat to play football this year. Stay tuned this is only the beginning.

Hey Frank,

Looks like you've been made. Now you're going to have to make up a new blog name but next time, try staying away from the Damien references, it's a dead give away.

Mean Machine sounds bitter that he and his family can't win at the HS level. Poor guy, he's not even a has been. He's a never was. Don't hate on Hagerty because he's got championship rings on his fingers and you don't.

Mr. Corona,

Still at it huh? I haven't been on here in some time and wanted to check in. To my dismay, you are still posting. That a side, I must admit, you do make some good points on Damien. I would have loved for my son to follow in the football steps of his brother, but I allowed parents like yourself to be the ears of the faculty. Completely on me...luckily things have worked out pretty well with the Pack! As for your kids, I remember them as very nice young men and stand up. A little geeky, but not hesitant to speak their mind. (like father like son) I just wish you would let them be and stop doting over their accomplishments. Let their work speak for itself. Maybe that's what you never got at Damien, that is the reason parents walked away from you. As for the you respecting the wrestling coach, that wouldn't have to do with the fact that he is the only coach on campus to kiss your but upon arrival? You curse Morrison and the program simply because you were not excepted. End of story. No coaching job for you and you turned it into a smear campaign of Morrsion and the program to anyone that would listen. I will be loggin off, only to check in at a later date when I'm sure you will stil be here posting to us about your vast knowledge of the game and the inside track on every single kid in the valley. Thanks "Mean Machine", what a joke.

Amay loyalist,

I got the part about injuries but what about the 4 other years?

And what about the lack of any kind of fundamentals at the lower levels? Riverside Poly was and is horrible...maybe the new coach is better than Hagerty and that's not a good sign is it?

Seems like Amat's choice is filled with good intentions and desparate measures...but HEY that worked for the Trojans with Pete Carroll. Pete was on his last Head Coaching job leg and now he's being courted by the NFL...Pete don't do it!

What I don't know and maybe someone else might is what was Riverside Poly's record BEFORE Hagerty got there. That's going to be telling.

As far as the "blog COMMENTS" affecting Hagerty's dismissal....did anyone tell him about the Sh@t Verti endured the past two years? Or did he NOT want to know? Winning SOLVES EVERYTHING...but I wonder why they didn't just go with Coach Aguirre when he retired as a winner in what is arguably one of the toughest areas to coach....CARSON...with their history and fan expectations. Kind of like Amat in a way really. That and the fact that Coach Aguirre brings ATHLETES & ASSISTANTS with him makes this hire a tough one to understand.

Is there anyone who knows if Hagerty brings a whole staff with him? Or is the staff being picked by the Alumni and Parents....that'll be a disaster.

Dorsey had a similar problem when my brother was there. For the Championship Game some former College/NFL guy decided to "call the defense himself" and my brother was out of the booth for the second half and on the sidelines check the halftime score before he left the booth....next thing you know Birmingham's Milton Knox is running up and down the field on his way to 3 more City Championship Games.. Knox was only a freshmen then and according to this DCOOR. "legend"..."NO WAY THIS KID BEATS ME!!!". WELL HE DID! ALMOST SINGLEHANDEDLY.

The key to Amat resurgence will be defense! You HAVE to STOP the other guy before your offense can make plays. Who's Hagerty's DCoordinator?

Best of luck.

Injuries to its starting quarterback and running back decimated Poly's lineup this season, and the Bears lost four straight games to end the year. But with a fan base known for fervent support, Hagerty faced parental complaints and sniping Internet chatter, which, Hagerty said, likely contributed to his dismissal.

You better have grown some thicker skin, Steven.
You are going to get a lot of the same. This time around don't make so many excuses. Excuses are like A-Holes, everybody has one.

Los Osos-Win Had them last year
O LU-Loss Can't compete with newest OC football factory
West Covina-Win Better be a blowout
Serra-Win Shouldn't compete with us
Diamond ranch-Win Shut Layton up with a big win and send message to other Valley schools
St.Francis-Win Beat them last time
Chaminade-Win They should not score
Crespi-loss They are reloading with a new stock of Santa Monica transfers
ND-loss Not in their League yet
Loyola-win We own the cubs.

Hagerty has two years the same as Verti. This better be a Paraclete situation and not a Riverside Poly one. And I don't want to see an influx of inexperienced coaches. I don't care if they played in the NFL for 20 years. Gano and Bogan never played in the league and they can coach. I want to see coaches that get the job because of their work not their name. If a former Lancer wants to come back and coach, let them cut their teeth on the Lower levels.

And Sermons aka Layton's right hand, better not be one of them as stated ina previous post. He has no loyalty to the school.

Record: 7-3 and in the playoffs. The schedule is cupcake compared to recent years. He better be able to compete with the three toughest games.

No one cares about your kids. How many times have I told you that this is a blog about HS sports not same Damien debate geek. They must be smart inspite of having a fool for dad. They must get the brains from your wifes side of the family

Where would you find Amat next years football schedule?

Joey...you're welcome. I did some research and I wondered if you knew the answer...how many places did Coach Aguirre have a record that looks anything like Hagerty's at Riverside Poly. I've coached at places where the "culture" doesn't ALLOW that kind of success...think Clippers...but I always won early and then the CRYBABIES dug in and I walked. Too much drama.

Hagerty will be successful, I think, because of two reasons...backing by the Alumni and Hagerty's got ALOT riding on this. But in the end it comes down to the kids believing "HE'S" the answer....think Coughlin!

As far as Dan is concerned...West Covina plays the game for the right reasons...play the best, get after it and let the chips fall where they may. I'm going to go see them during Spring Ball now that those players from ast year are bigger, faster and tougher than last year's impressive group. WC vs. BA will be a war...count on that! Hey Dan can you give me an update on teh players to watch out for?

NiMrOd,

The truth is we're talking about sports. Damien has GREAT academics and the BEST students and learning environment around plus I respect the wrestling coach. My youngest will be a Debater on a Nationally ranked team with eyes set on going to an Ivy League school or Stanford...dude when will you stop trying ? Would have gone to Webb or Loyola but he likes being close to home and really looks forward to following in his brother's footsteps, being a Spartan, and beyond that the sky is the limit.

Even a NiMrOd like you has to accept when he's barking up the wrong tree...If you knew anything from reading this blog is that I have pretty impressive kids even though I can be "outspoken: at times....They didn't get that way by accident. Hey.LoSeR...want some Trojan tickets? lol

This is too easy.....opps...ThIs Is ToO eAsY!

Likewise Joe Amat I appreciate the post you put up, usually imformative and based in facts, without the attitude of arrogance that I've seen in a small minority of the Amat posters.
Good luck with your new coach this year, sounds like our WC Bulldogs might have picked a tough time to play Amat with that talented group you will have this year and with your new coach[although any year would be tough].
As for WC, we should be pretty good this year so I'm hopeing we can make a good game of it. West Co. likes to test themselves a couple of games each season & it looks like this year it will be against Amat, Glendora & Los Altos, I think Diamond Bar will also be in the mix, this should be an exciting year.

Dan,

I always appreciate your posts and enjoy the debate. Keep in mind that we never pull out "The List" unless asked. If others would just realize, as you said "... the truth is no other school in the valley can match a
list like yours..." then we'd never see this.

But like a court of law -when you open the door...

While we do get kids from all over, and take pride in doing so, many of them come from families that are already committed to private education - like Dominique Austin. He attended St John the Baptist in Baldwin Park prior to Amat. So I'm not sure that they really count as "belonging" to the public high school. Those private schools, in a way, are Amats built-in feeder system, very similar to a public school having a couple/few large middle schools that naturally feed into one high school. In reality, we only had two players from Hollencrest and none from Edgewood (the two WCHS middle schools) To see the list of players and their schools go to
http://football.bishopamat.org/docs/team_roster.php

And I've always said to every public school coach I know what Hagerty said about transfers out of Amat when he said. "I feel like it's my responsibility to offer them the environment and experience they want to be in. They aren't going to want to leave if we do our jobs. If we put a quality product on the field that they can feel proud of, they're not going to want to go anywhere else."

If a public school coach does that and *matches the product* - he will keep the kids he should and they wouldn't have to worry about a private school taking their kids. And the schools that keep most of the kids they should are usually pretty good. The toughest part of that equation is that they simply can't match the level of competition week in and week out or potentially in the playoffs. And never will. So sometimes - that is the trump card.

Joe Amat, & other Amat posters, not trying to be an a##, but Ive seen these impressive scholarship list from Amat several times on this board, the truth is no other school in the valley can match
list like yours, but lets also remember that you get most of your kids from other public schools in the area, correct me if I'm wrong but just from that last list you put up, three of those kids lived in the West Covina highschool district.[I believe they were Dominique Austin, Carlton Fletcher, & Brandon Bennet], can you imagine the
teams West Co would put out if these kids stood
home?

hey meanmachine
why dont you just pull your kid out of damien then????

hey meanmachine
why dont you just pull your kid out of damien then????

mean machine proved the point ina way

amat produced the same number of D-1 players has LA and bp etc. just 1.

All Damien has to brag about is 2 walk ons? lmao Did they go to the university of San Francisco where they belong? Man moron machine your points just get more lame by the minute.

Comparing schools to cars? lmao Moron Machine is the Yugo of this blog. A small insignificant piece of crap. You must be bi polar or ADHD.

To all Conqs:
We Amat have come on and have mentioned names of our return players to go along with a good coach and new beginning. This team has talent but it is not known weather they can still get to CIF playoffs with Crespi, Notre Dame and Loyola in their way. You must win 2 out of 3 in this 4 team league and it is tough to do. Amat will have a good team this year but the fact remains can they get by these Monster schools.? Time will tell. On to Los Altos, what players do you have returning and is Gano just going to go thru the motions this year? Most of the talent is gone and that includes the Bishop Amat 3rd string talent , Tamayo,Tillis,McBride to add to Los Altos players Longoria,Maciel,Seanez,Rodriguez etc. What is left over there? even with the above players Los Altos failed to make the playoffs last year and this year can they even get to the playoffs?...No slam but what is left over there off Los Robles street?

M&M,

Thanks for the softball !
Advance apologies to those that don't like the answer or pulling ot "The List" ! : )
The last three years scholarships have gone to
JOSE RODRIGUEZ 2004 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
JONATHAN SOTO 2004 SAN DIEGO STATE
MICHAEL COMBES 2004 UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA
ANTHONY HUNTLEY 2005 ALABAMA STATE
JONATHAN CORNELL 2005 UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI
BRANDON BENNETT 2005 UCLA
VINCENT FEDERICO 2005 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
CODY NEELY 2005 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
TONY VALENZUELA 2005 IONA COLLEGE
TONY VALENZUELA 2005 IONA COLLEGE
DANIEL ROBLES 2005 ST MARY'S COLLEGE
CARLTON FLETCHER 2006 ARMY
...and this year
DOMINIQUE AUSTIN 2007 ARIZONA

yet someone earlier said, "...the best exposure" was at Los Altos.
Apparently not.

conq,

that's NOT a stupid analogy at all...I also own a couple of 4Runners because they're dependable and a good value..i.e. Los Altos. That's why a public education and a great school like Los Altos "outshines' most SGV schools...except South Hills, Walnut, Diamond Bar and Bonita, lol But the point wasn't who's who but why fall for the argument is all I was saying.

But anyone who thinks playing South Hills, Charter Oak, Damien, West Covina snd El Dorado is the same as playing Carson, LB Poly, Mater Dei, Notre Dame, Loyola, Servite, Santa Margarita and Orange Lutheran week in week is just plain STUPID.

Here I'll make it easier for you....Imagine Jon Rabe playing at Bishop Amat going against...Dominque Austin and Jesse Cervantes and others at practice for 3 Varsity seasons, working out and going against that Pac 5 schedule, coaches and players. He'd be at Oregon instead of Nevads and maybe ...just maybe he'd be at USC with McMahon and Harper. THAT'S A FACT! No coach at Damien makes a Bishop Amat coaching staff. Helll Morrison isn't even consider top tier in the SGV , yES they've been ranked and Damien wasn't even TOP TEN, much less ANY private school peer.

Imagine Bishop Amat with Mark Mendrun for the last 2 seasons? Better yet imagine Ray Rodriguez at Bishop Amat? He wouldn't be at San Jose State would he? He'd be maybe Pac 10 as well.

Old tired argument. Los Altos should have played Bishop Amat a long time ago. Now with Hagerty and the "transfer issues" I bet it gets done by next year. If he's as smart as they say. Just to get the players and parents to kow who the top dog is....you pay to PLAY AGAINST THE BEST!

LOOK AT THE LAST 2 SIERRA LEGUE UNDEFEATED CHAMPIONS---DAMIEN AND GLENDORA....2 WALK ONS TO USC, ONE TRACK GUY IN EDMONDS AND NOW RABE AT NEVADA...hey Amat ? how many Bishop Amat grads in the last 3 years have gotten scholarships?
Case closed.

The Bishop Amat vs. Los Altos debate is comedy at this point because both your scripts have recently read like a tragedy vs. South Hills and Charter Oak. The only difference between both the Lancers and Conquerors right now is arguing whose community is more "ghetto" presently. At least South Hills and Charter Oak also have their city boundaries going for them too besides their football teams.

In the very near future, the entire East San Gabriel Valley will resemble a "ghost town" compared to the Inland Empire and Orange County and only those athletes at the bottom of the food chain will be left to compete against in the Tribune's town. Please continue to rant though because this website is a much better rag than the other more sophisticated blogs I read...

I have been to your top schools and prefer to continue to live further down the 57 freeway instead thanks. None of us folks like to really travel to your parts unless we have to go in and beat you!

LA

Is a good school for the division they are in. They have won 11 Cif Championships. You have to repsect that. But to be honest if they played D-1 ball they wouldn't have nearly as many championships as they have now.

D-1 Is a completely different game. Everyone that has seen both of them play could understand that.

In the late 90's (96-97 year to be exact) Bishop Amat had six to seven players transfer from Amat to Wilson. At that time wilson was a D-6 school. Those 6/7 transfers revitalized that program for that 2 years. They won back to back CIF Championships against who? Against LA, but my point is those transfers were down on the depth chart at Amat. They weren't starters at Amat, they a little more down the depth chart. Yet at wilson they were stars. Amat's starters are at a different level then that of LA. There depth is could start at other schools but not at Amat.

I respect what despain an gano have accomplished, but LA wouldnt have nearly the success they have if they were D-1.

I just read LA Conqs post about the 2001 season when they had another transfer QB from Amat and went on to play in the finals. I didn't realize that LA was taking leftovers back then too. That transfer must have left because he knew he'd never start and was destined to backing up Mike Lange. It obviously didn't hurt the Lancers offense either because, according to their website, 2001 was their second highest total yardage ever-even ahead of the Haden/McKay years and the team lost in the playoffs to CIF Finalist Edison after a first round blowout victory.

Again, an Amat backup destined for no action goes on to lead Los Altos. What does that say?

Not name calling-just facts. And I was being nice, some of them were FOURTH stringers. Go back and look it up. Which is the real point. It didn't hurt at all, yet they were starters at LA. Even McBride (who is a great player and the only real "loss" to LA) was going to be the THIRD option in the offense behind Wells and Wagner. And he had the best stats in the valley against LA's schedule until he got hurt. Not even an argument to be had with anyone that has seen or understands football.

reality czech,

Wow, calling the kids that left to other schools besides Los Altos third stringers.

Man, did it hurt you that bad to now be name calling kids. What type of school do run over there anyway?

Remember where these kids come from. They don't all live in La Puente.

I was deciding on sending my kid to Amat over Los Altos. But, from the looks of it, seems to me Amat has more issues there than just football.

One more Money Check lost!

LA here we come!

We could go on and on about this and we must remember as adults that it is only HS football or sports in general. The arguement of who is better than who is all good. Robledo should leave topics up for only so long then take them off when they start to stray too far into race and slams. Amat yes they love their school and are 75 percent of this blog but they have a passion and I sure all of us do but man they are one of kind, nothing wrong with that. Amat73,joe Amat,Matbag,blue orca, Lancer2DN. ALL GOOD INFO!. It is a SGV blog and we should all come in and give support to all of our schools and not just Amat vs the world. Fred again, hold the topic for so long and dump it after a 3-4 day run. this will get rid of the unesscesary bashing and foul language. the censorship you have only works so much but while you were out the fang/stang BS racial slams went way overboard. Topics are good fred but once they are hitting a weirdnees yank them because it starts to fester to your next topic. Peace to all.

MM,

That's a stupid analogy. But, I'll go with it. OK, the number one car manufacturer in the world is Toyota.

So I guess you can keep your BMW it looks good, but unfortunately it's always in the repair shop.

I'll stick with being a Toyota.

Amat, and you have this guy leading your charge.

WOOOOO!! YEAH!!

As long as Amat continues to send their THIRD stringers to become starters at Los Altos the Conqs will do just fine in their little league and lower division. There simply is no other proof needed.

I can feel the pulse of the nation!

GO! Los Altos football!

You mean best public school in the SGV, don't you? Deffinately the best football program coaching and exposure wise. Go Conquerors!!

The best Football program and highest ranking public education institution...LOS ALTOS HIGH SCHOOL...11 CIF championships...17 league titles...numerous College and NFL alumni...ABC 7 coach of the year(2003)...who replaced the legend Dwayne Despain...

The best Football program and highest ranking public education institution...LOS ALTOS HIGH SCHOOL...11 CIF championships...17 league titles...numerous College and NFL alumni...ABC 7 coachvof the year(2003)...who replaced the legend Dwayne Despain...

el rancho is in a crappy neighboorhood. no one cares about el rancho.

Bishop Amat vs EL RANCHO 2-0
Bishop Amat vs LOS ALTOS 3-0

Asked about recent players who have left Amat for neighboring schools, Hagerty said he will address the issue.

"As a coach, I've never complained about a kid leaving," Hagerty said. "I feel like it's my responsibility to offer them the environment and experience they want to be in.

Get ready to complain!

More like offer them a Sports Scholar... I mean Academic Scholarship!

You don't have to pay to play.

Thank you,

SH,WC,LA,CO,DR,GH,SE and all the rest

Why live in the past? Bishop Amat? Los Altos?

"Down the block" from you guys El Rancho High School was the most successful football team in the nation (1960's)

Do your team a favor..... AND FOCUS ON THE NOW!!!!

EL RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL DONS
National Championships: 1966
Ca. State Championships: 1966
CIF Championships: 1960, 1966, 1968
CIF Runner-ups: 1961, 1963, 1988
League Championships: 1953, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968,
1969, 1970, 1971, 1977, 1982, 1985, 1990, 1991, 1995, 1997

Playoff Appearances: 1953, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967
1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980
1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992
1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007

Longest Winning Streak:
1966-1967 (23)

Consecutive Regular Season Winning Streak:

1964-1967 (33)

Consecutive League Championships:
1961-1971 (11)

Consecutive Playoff Appearances:
1959-1971 (13)
1984-1993 (10)

Scoring (Game)

1965 vs. Santa Fe (77)

1966 vs. El Monte (60)

1986 vs. Santa Fe (56)

1988 vs. Santa Fe (55)

Most Shutouts (Season)
1965 (7)
1966 (6)
1988 (6)

Scoring (Season)
1966 (518)

1988 (401)

1968 (369)

Year-by-Year Record
(365-227-11)

MEANT "WITHOUT APOLOGIES"...sorry

Why do the Los Altos fans fall for this debate EVERT THREAD AND EVERY TIME!!!!

BISHOP AMAT IS THE LONE DIVISION I TEAM IN THE SGV

LOS ALTOS HAS IT'S CHAMPIONSHIPS.

LET IT GO.

BOTH ARE GREAT SCHOOLS..AND BISHOP AMAT...STOP BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR BMW TO SOMEONE WHO DRIVES A CAMRY.

BOTH GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO DON'Y THEY? THE DIFFERENCE IS THE GUY WHO DRIVES THE BMW SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO PUT DOWN THE GUY WITH THE CAMRY.....NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE CAMRY GUY TELLS YOU..."IT'S JUST A CAR!!!"

THOSE THAT DRIVE BMWS "KNOW THE DIFFERENCE"... just drive it, enjoy the "perks" and count your blessings. Besides I drive and own both. Sometimes one works for me and other times one works AGAINST me...know what I mean?

Los Altos is a school with tremendous pride, a proud history and a credit to the San Gabriel Valley WITHOUT QUESTION AND WITH APOLOGIES!...Bishop Amat on the other hand has great name recognition, better overall components and univeral "reach"....didn't Bishop Amat play De La Salle when DLS were on that historic run....somewho DLS must have misplaced Los Altos number.

No offense but facts are facts and this debate is ridiculous...

BIshop Amat=BMW
Los Altos=Toyota with an occasional Lexus "run".

Plaese don't be offende...on either side...I'm a BIG fan of both...but this agrument is doing nothing for anyone other than to make each school look pathetic....and neither really is. Champions are Champions...and everyone else is trying to get there...like my neighbor...Mr and Mrs. Jones.

Peace in the SGV!

Amat,

Check your own website.

CIF Runner Ups
1962 • 1969 • 1983
1988 • 1994

YEAH. (RUNNER UPS)

...and your proud of that?

LA Conq and you are proud of that?
Wow!

Choose Amat over Los Altos?

Are you crazy? This 2008 year reminds of 2001 season at Los Altos; we had 4 returning starters from a 2000 team that went 14-0. They had a strong sophomore class and a junior QB transfer from yours truly (Bishop Amat). That year I believe, preseason Los Altos was ranked 6th in SGV tribune and Bishop Amat like usual was ranked 2nd. Well that year we ended up losing by a missed field goal against Charter Oak in the Division VII championship game.

That year started another run, Los Altos one consecutive championships 2002-2003.

If you check the records the cycle is about to begin again.

Year in year out Los Altos competes.

Maybe you should transfer to Los Altos before it’s too late.

Just a thought.

He is in his mid 40's, has coaching experience at many levels and is a proven CIF winner...

Give him the benefit of the doubt and Amat may prevail or at a mininum improve over the short term...

My opinion???

Good hire...

Joe Colt...

Give him time

Look friend, and I call you freind because I am not here to pick a fight with you.

All I said, was that I am looking at this thing as objectively as I can, and as such, I can only see that, there were far better candidates that were mentioned on this blogg a number of time, that I belive would have made for a better choice.

Ok, you asked me a few questions, and ill try my best to answer them, as best as I can ok. First of all, no. I do not, nore did I ever directly pay money to the school to find a coach. However, I do pay my monthly tuition (for my kid), plus I pay a few more dollars every month for the "Student Activity Center." Perhaps that gives me a little bit of voice here. What do you say ?

Second, all those guys you mentioned were succesfull, consitanly before they were hired
to thier "big time" jobs otherwise they would never have even been considered for those jobs. I mean, who hires a losing coach to a historically sucessfull program anyway ?

BTW, the only reason these guys did so poorly in thier first few years was because they had inherated bad teams, and as result, they had losing seasons (duh...). Tell me, is next years team that this coach is getting, suppose to be bad ? hum...

Ok, you said, "give him time"...well, why ? I mean, why is it that when there is a new hire where there is a whole lot of unknowns, that the rallying cry is allways, "give him time." You yourself even used thos awfull words..."what if." What if he loses to to those inferior teams you mentioned ? What then ? Give him more time ? Give him (as one blogger said here) 5 years to turn it arround. Come on !

You also asked a valid question in, who did I think was a better candiate. Well, I will try to name at least 4. I don't remember names (im bad that way I suppose) but here goes. One was the brother of the head coach at Hart. True, not yest a head coach but a lot of succes there at that program year in and year out (one other brother is now head coach at Alamany). The other guy was the assistant coach at "OL" that was spoken about here a few times past. Another candidate form a "consistantly successful program, and let us not forget the two candidates that had impecable resumes that were not even selected. That was four that I am certian would have beaten D, Ranch, West Co and Los Osos hands down ! And to tell you the truth, I would not have even had a question as to "what if."

Good luck coach....

Give him time

Look friend, and I call you freind because I am not here to pick a fight with you.

All I said, was that I am looking at this thing as objectively as I can, and as such, I can only see that, there were far better candidates that were mentioned on this blogg a number of time, that I belive would have made for a better choice.

Ok, you asked me a few questions, and ill try my best to answer them, as best as I can ok. First of all, no. I do not, nore did I ever directly pay money to the school to find a coach. However, I do pay my monthly tuition (for my kid), plus I pay a few more dollars every month for the "Student Activity Center." Perhaps that gives me a little bit of voice here. What do you say ?

Second, all those guys you mentioned were succesfull, consitanly before they were hired
to thier "big time" jobs otherwise they would never have even been considered for those jobs. I mean, who hires a losing coach to a historically sucessfull program anyway ?

BTW, the only reason these guys did so poorly in thier first few years was because they had inherated bad teams, and as result, they had losing seasons (duh...). Tell me, is next years team that this coach is getting, suppose to be bad ? hum...

Ok, you said, "give him time"...well, why ? I mean, why is it that when there is a new hire where there is a whole lot of unknowns, that the rallying cry is allways, "give him time." You yourself even used thos awfull words..."what if." What if he loses to to those inferior teams you mentioned ? What then ? Give him more time ? Give him (as one blogger said here) 5 years to turn it arround. Come on !

You also asked a valid question in, who did I think was a better candiate. Well, I will try to name at least 4. I don't remember names (im bad that way I suppose) but here goes. One was the brother of the head coach at Hart. True, not yest a head coach but a lot of succes there at that program year in and year out (one other brother is now head coach at Alamany). The other guy was the assistant coach at "OL" that was spoken about here a few times past. Another candidate form a "consistantly successful program, and let us not forget the two candidates that had impecable resumes that were not even selected. That was four that I am certian would have beaten D, Ranch, West Co and Los Osos hands down ! And to tell you the truth, I would not have even had a question as to "what if."

Good luck coach....

Choose Amat over Los Altos?

Are you crazy? This 2008 year reminds of 2001 season at Los Altos; we had 4 returning starters from a 2000 team that went 14-0. They had a strong sophomore class and a junior QB transfer from yours truly (Bishop Amat). That year I believe, preseason Los Altos was ranked 6th in SGV tribune and Bishop Amat like usual was ranked 2nd. Well that year we ended up losing by a missed field goal against Charter Oak in the Division VII championship game.

That year started another run, Los Altos one consecutive championships 2002-2003.

If you check the records the cycle is about to begin again.

Year in year out Los Altos competes.

Maybe you should transfer to Los Altos before it’s too late.

Just a thought.

That's Northern Arizona University. My error!!!!

There are alot of other local JC mid year signees I'm sure. Former Walnut (04/05) standout, Conrad White(#17) signed with Northern Arizona State and is already there attending classes. He's been at Fullerton College and did a heck of a job for them two years. He was named to the Mission Conference 2nd Team Defense in 07. He had 11 breakups this season. His interception in this years Inagural Orange County Bowl was key to Fullerton's win over Citrus.

GO LUMBERJACK'S

bozo the clown is the perfect fit at amat. He reminds me of the amat fans here.

Tell me why he was such a bad hire? Come on tell me who you would of hired. If you're such an expert tell me.

Realistically,

Amat and Los Altos should never be mentioned in the same breathe. Amat is in such a different league then LA, its not fair to even out Amat at the Low of a Level.

Come on Amat's 5th string was LA's starters.

I give LA credit for what they did in D-6, but they would no where get the acclaim if they were D-1. I'd be surprised if they made it to the Play offs.

give him time you are typical of the amat honks on this blogs talking out your ***. Mark my words this was a bad hire. the whole adminstration needs to go NOW

Give Him Time:

Wow! I could see that the bashing has already began.
You think Amat saved money, how stupid are you? You think money comes out of their butt or something. If you are a alumni, let me ask this question have you forked over any money to help pay for what you call a high profile coach. Have you done anything to be a part of the solution instead of wine and cry on these blogs about what Amat is not doing. I mean what have you done to make this program any better. I bet not a darn thing. Except b...and moan about something you have no control over.

Amat made a great hire in Hags. Either he or Aguirre would have done a great job. Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 with troy aikman, pete carrol was 5-6 his first year at USC. But you complain that he hasn't done anything. You are right he has to win, but you have to give him time as well.

I think we should be completely concerned if they lose to Los Osos (again), West Co, D-Ranch...If they lose to any of those teams, then you know we are in for a long season. But to be honest I dont see that happening. They will handle business against those teams.

We should understand that with Hags comes in some Old School staff and some young bucks as well. I wouldn't be surprise that he has a staff already assembled. Some guys that have been here before and know what it means to be D-1. Shoot I would even try to get Verti to coach. Yes, he probably wasn't ready to be the Head Coach, but he would be a top assistant on that staff.

McCutcheon is most likely gonna be on the staff and hopefully he can bring some NFL guys with him that know the game. Im not sold on NFL guys being great coaches, but Im sure Mccutcheon has a great feel for it with one year under his belt. But hopefully he'll be full time this year. He wasn't around at some of the practices he attended.

Taylor, would be good as well, a retired Police Officer, Notre Dame running back that knows the meaning of hitting and tackling with passion.

Anyways my point was that Hags just doesn't bring himself but a slew of people that know how to Coach and teach the game.

Go Amat, its your time to shine.

betty must be part of the Amat "hood". Got your raider gear there too betty??

Amat,

If you and your kid are unhappy with the new coaching decision, let them go to Los Altos.

first time jcaz ever made sense. You ok there jcaz? lol

Im just looking at this thing strictly as objectively as I can, and I have to say that, in my opinion, this was not the best that they could have done.

Yes, a lot could be said about the fact that the new coach is an alum that was here, when Amat had a winning program. And yes, a lot could be said as to his early success at lower division schools, and for that matter at the strong liklyhood that they will win more games than they lose this, up comming year (due to the softer schedual), however....

A good coach, is a good all of the time, not just every other years or two. A good coach and a good hire will be successful after all the seniors graduate (what's gonna happen when thier all gone eh...). A good coach comes in and hits the floor running and is able to match up against the likes of Crespi and Notre Dame and yes, even against Orange Lutheran right now !!

Tell me the truth here folks, Is this coach going to do all of that ? Even with the fact that there will be an improvement considering the past few years at Amat, can you honestly say that they could have gotten a far better coach with a more impressive resume here ?

Look, im certian this fellow is a great guy, with as big a hart as it gets, but the reality here is that the administration could have gotten a better candidate.

Footbal at Amat is about winning, but it seems to me, that there was far to much empahsis on saving a few bucks, and getting a guy who was "an alum" rather than getting someone who can do the job consistanly, and over the long run, and at EVERY LEVEL.

Im sorry, but I dont agree with this choice. This is not the answer. I hope im wrong, but just look at what happened with the university of Notre Dame receintly, when they relied soley on alums to rebuild thier progam. They did'nt do so good eh.

Good luck coach...you'll need it.

Betty

Get back in the kitchen, and fix Barney his dinner. Nobody wants to play in gangland Bedrock.

Hey Los Altos Kids and Parents, looking to play for a winner, head North down 7th til it turns into Sunset make a left on Fairgrove, come play for Amat there is nothing there for you at Los Altos. This will be one of our better years this year. Come play for a real, gives you a chance, coach.

To Hags:
You got a year and it must be made good on or allot of these bloggers are going to come in here and rip you. Pay no mind to them these are whackos that hate Amat. Go to work kick some ass and get Amat to the top. We true Lancers are right there behind you win or lose. Haters,, the Blue and Gold is back and some of your football players will start to flock back to Amat. Deal with it we are back!.

bad hire Amat 3-7 again in 2008

Good luck Coach Hagerty, glad to have you back and you have the support of the faculty, boosters and students. The speech you made yesterday was uplifting and goal oriented. We can't wait to get started.

Give Him Time:

I have to agree with Joe Amat this time. Verti was given a very tough situation here at Amat. I do believe in about 5 to 10 years Verti will be one of the most sought out Coaches in High School Football. But not only was Verti given a tough deal. So were his assistance. He had some very qualified assistance that did a great job with the players. I dont think I have or many others have given some of his assistance the credit they deserved for what they did at Amat. I know a lot of people on the outside of Amat's realm and speculate to what has happen here at Amat. But I have to tell you, these people have no clue to what is really going on.

Verti had some very great assistance that we (including me) didnt give them a chance. One of the reasons is because I didnt know what the background of some of his assistance were all about. But after going to practice over and over again. I was impressed with some of them. Dont get me wrong their were some coaches I believed were coaching out of position. And they suffered for that. But their were several that were versatile and did a great job. Spoon, Devera, Koelle did a great job with the Kids. I couldn't get a feel on Taylor, but he seemed to be know what he was talking about. McCutcheon brought the NFL mystique. Adimek was also a pretty good coach.

But like I said it was a tough job for MV, but I do commend that he stepped down the way that he did. But I believe that he and those good assistance have been given a hard time (yeah, I know, but also by me) and many should be given the credit they are do, not just to MV but to those assistance who did a great job. I know you know who you are. My apologies for the hard time. I respect those who actually did a great job with these kids.

Now congrats to Hagerty! Let Amat shine.

After reading this mornings articles and Steve's quotes, it reminds me of the Ray Lokar hiring for Boys Basketball a while back. It will be great that they will be in the same room tonight at the Salute to Athletic Excellence dinner, honoring the championship coaches in the schools 50 year history. We'll see one coach that were glad to have back - and another that we wish would come back !

Hagerty has the same likable personality that will appeal to parents, boosters, and staff but is tough enough on the kids to demand what is right and, *most importantly*, has been around the block a few times in a variety of scenarios that he knows what needs to be done. Lokar and Hagerty both started as assistants at Amat and left for a variety of successes and learning experiences at other places. Both came back to programs that needed a big culture change.

Now we know that Lokar's team won the only CIF Boys Basketball Championship in school history in his first year back and we shouldn't put that kind of pressure on the football team -they might have a lot farther to go to get to the top. But the excitement should come back in the same manner.

The article also made me realize the unfortunate place that administration put Mark Verti in. In 15 years he could be what Hagerty is. The great thing about Hags is that he has been able to gradually build on his football knowledge and what works with building a program. You can probably make a couple of mistakes at Paraclete that you wouldn't get away with. Then competing at a pretty high level with some great athletes at JW North. Verti didn't have that luxury and was thrown to the wolves right away. We've been saying for 2 years that MV could be good someday but that amat was not the place for on-the-job training. Mark - go get a job somewhere at a program that is not under the microscope, kick some butt, get a better job, then you'll be ready to return to a revitalized Amat in 15 years when Steve is ready to move into administration and you will be prepared to be the kind of coach that will compete at the highest level possible.

As early as this morning my son received a phone call and said phone calls were being made yesterday and will be throughout the weekend trying to hire former Amat coaches and players that have the background and experience to restore our traditions. One of the top men were are trying to recover and get back is Sermons and his brother because the two of them could make a difference on the field this year and Sermons is well connected with the youth programs in Pomona too.
Joe Amat if you could list some of the top assistant coaches and players that you deem most qualified that would be an interesting topic to debate because from what our family is being told there are men that would now be willing to work again at Amat for someone like Hagerty and that was the main reason for his hiring is to bring back coaches and alumni. Go Lancers!

Welcome HOME Coach Hagerty! We're behind you 100%.

Posting this in the event that ANY coach in thier right mind may read some of the garbage all of these dads with lost dreams post.

One more thing besides a talented senior class and a good junior class, they have a sophomore phenom in Jay Anderson

This is only dedicated to those whom have no loyalty to Amat. No matter what has happened in the recent years you put blame on someone other then yourself. Now that we have a new coach in hagerty you are still not satisfied. Some old coaches will be brought back to help the program and some new ones will surface due to their background in other high schools or for the fact they played in the NFL. This was a great hire for Amat to hire a no nonsense man that will set these kids straight. Hagerty comes into a tough situation, yet at the same time he comes in to a core a seniors that can control the game. When you have have people like Seals, Price, Prieto, Maffie, Bowens, Teter, Gaisie, Gener, Lenhart, Loera, and juniors McClananhan, Johnson, Kane, Tierney and so on... You have a great nucleus of kids that could really bring Amat to light. Not to mention the cream puff schedule they have this year compared to last year. When you no longer have Hart, RC, Carson and you replace it with West Co, D-Ranch and Gardena Serra, you have a program set up to win. But not just to win, but demolish its opponents. Last year Amat's special teams led to 3 td's scored by O-Lu which would of made it a 17 - 7 or 17- 10 game. Though lost a lot of talent they still have a lot of talent (a long with 7 transfers) coming back. I believe that will be Amat's early measuring stick. Coach Hagerty dont listen to these haters that have no real love for Amat. We know much has been entrusted to you, so much is expected. We have complete confidence with players, the schedule and so on coming up this very season that you will meet and exceed the expectations you have at Amat. Go AMAT the only true Division 1 team in the Valley.

We got the right guy in place and the upswing started yesterday. That campus was buzzing with the great news. This coach is going to turn it around, you can count on it. His statement in the paper of hard hitting and tackling is what lacked the last 2 years. Verti knew knew this. Hagerty had somes downs as a coach but certain factors played a role in that, he comes to Amat with a impressive resume and is a Lancer himself. It does not get any better than that. He inheirits this struggling team, but a team with talent aka Seals,Prieto,Price,Teter,Lenhart,McClanahan,Cane,Johnson,Maffie,Bowens and lil Gener to name a few. This is a good group of players and if you saw what these kids did last year on ability alone given this new coach they will be exciting games over at Keifer this coming season. He will shape this squad and will bring in his own staff of assistants current and new and Amat will be a force to reckon with once again. MTC had a point and thanks Mike, in that the bashers are out there and will knock the choice out of plain ignorance. With this hiring I hope parents start to bring their kids to Amat to play for this coach because he will need to reload his talent quickly for the class of 2010 because thats where the real coaching will take place. 2009 team is there and in place and is loaded, it is what Amat starts to shape after that.

Hagarty is a very good hire for Amat, many alumni think he should have been hired when Defori was hired. The Alumni have been watching him for some time waiting to get him back. Well his time has come.

I know that Verti was an alumni also but Hagerty goes back when it meant something special to be a Lancer as well as when discipline was mandatory. Nothing against Verti but Hagarty has the seasoning. He has spent the years out there. Poly job was a bust because of injuries as well as other factors, discipline problems etc but look at the players that he put in college. The next few years will be crutial to Verti and his future.

If you are a parent with a young football player you have to take a good look at Amat and what it has to offer again. I hope the assistant coaches are not forced on him. Hagarty probably has a few coaches that will relocate with him as well as looking at current coaches such as Spoon, Taylor and McCutcheon.

As stated before Amat will shine again. Hagarty will bring back the pride and tradition that the Alumni expect, the excitement is back.

Well Joey that's that! No Coach Aguirre means no Coach C. roaming the sidelines but in the end Amat got the guy they wanted. Might be like the Coach at UCLA..Ben Howland who every Alumni wanted and look what he's done for the basketball program there. Amat will be back on top and that sounds pretty good to me!

I do have one concern though and that's what happened at Riverside Poly? Maybe it was the culture there but they were/are aweful. So much so that they've become Damien's annual whipping cream puff...why else would Damien, who hates to travel schedule a team THAT far away? ...CREAM PUFF!!!!

The second concern is Hagerty's response to being fired after that pathetic record..."I didn't see it coming?...I was blindsided?" That's telling don't you think Joey?

But today is a new day and Amat hopefully will hopefullyrebound and represent the SGV just like old times.

Today Joey I had the best news. I had a father call me to tell me he wanted me to be there when his son signed his Letter of Intent. Imagine THAT!!!! Man it does not get sweeter than that! What an honor. I was out of town and couldn't be reached but that says all you need to know about the kid and his family. First class on and of the field.

Sometimes you help kids and the parents tear you a new one..sometimes a parent and kid get it...and sometimes they only acknowledge your help in quiet whispers..away from others. I've had ALL 3 at Damien. But in the end you do it for the kids...that and the snide remarks...lol Seriously, I do it because I hate seeing kids getting screwed by coaches, the system or their parents on a few occassions. Don't ask!

Best of luck to all the players as they march off into the sunset and seek new adventures and greater challenges...they are the ones who wanted it the most, paid the price and got it done. Your playing time and success on the field will NEVER diminish this accomplishment or the pride your parents, friends and coaches have for you. I really am looking forward to seeing Damien's Ryan Mc Mahon and Daniel Harper compete for playing time at USC. It takes ALOT of GUTS to step on the field with the BEST PLAYERS IN THE NATION and test yourself. That's a fire few will ever understand. They started out Spartans and are now both TROJANS!!!

Fight ON!

Stay healthy and "KNOW YOU BELONG!!!" Wow what a wild year and a wild ride!

amat people are morons ass holes

MTC is shaking in his boots from a guy named MONKEY you CLONE haters are clueless

Congrats on FINALLY pulling the trigger & hiring a former Lancer . But all I know is he has a LOT of work to do .

How about them Lakers !?!?!?

Fight On

TM

I hope he keeps a couple of the present staff but it's his call.

I always liked Z, Spoon, and Taylor. I hope if McCutcheon does stay, he'll have to put more time and effort into it.

The boys do seem excited from the couple I've talked to so far. How much longer until spring practice?

house cleaner,

While I might be with you on the whole administrative thing, you're obviously a relatively "green" alumnus and weren't around for the 11 straight league titles in the 80's-'90s competing against the likes of Mater Dei, Servite, and Loyola every year that Hagerty was a part of.(either that or he busted you when he was the Dean of Discipline during his last stint) He knows what it takes to win against the highest competition.

Then when he turned Paraclete around their big competition at that level at the time was....St Bonaventure. They turned out pretty good, didn't they? JW North has 2599 students. That's small? They won a title and he lost as a head coach 57-55 to...Corona/Centennial. Heard of them? They're pretty good - ya think?

Small school? Citrus hill, where he was a coordinator last year, is a new school that has 1739. We've only got 1503. And you know why he was really there instead of trying to get another head coaching job? He had his eyes on the Amat job ('73 - more caps!) And they won a title there too.

So has he just been lucky? Amat, Paraclete, JWNorth, and Citrus Hill? Creating a winning culture and putting in the proper infrastructure to be successful is the same everywhere. That's why I've always said that Farrar. Bogan, Gano, would all be successful at a higher level. Developing a program and building a staff takes some experience and Hags has it. Expect to see the return of some old faces from the past and a definite alumni flavor, starting with Bill Mulvihill, who went to school at the same time as Hagerty, was an Asst Coach at Amat at the same time and then became the head coach at Rancho Cucomonga. Just my guess.

We'll see how Steve does as the head honcho back at the alma mater. I'm betting that he has learned his lessons well.

As for you, young pup - class dismissed!
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sidebart: MTC...great to hear from you, I got on a rant and got sidetracked. Leave the tshirt at home and we'll get you an Amat button.

Mike the clone is a moron and needs a life

Greetings!

I am Mike the Clone and you are NOT!

Now with that said........

Joe Amat, Bleeds Blue and Gold, Amat 73, MATMTWBAG, Bluorca and the rest of my friends at Amat.......The Clone is up and out of the basement to say congrats to you guys on the hire.

I just might have to show up and take in a few this coming season.

I'll be the one wearing the eeeerrrrrrr "I survived Mike the Clone" T-Shirt.

Miss the banter you guys and again congrats. Now suck it up and get some Wins and shove them right down the naysayers throats.

I AM OUT!

Mike the Clone

P.S. And Goodnight Aram Tolegian wherever you are!

GOOD NIGHT NOW!

This is a great hire.. Any word on who Hagerty will be bringing in on his staff?

Here we go again,
The new coach hasn't even been on the job 24 hrs. and people are starting with the negative postings. Let's give him a chance to at least start coaching before you start knocking him. Regardless of where or what size the schools he has coached he did win . Let's not get off on the wrong foot like was done with Verti.

Joe you are one of the biggest blowhards on this blog. The guy won at small schools in the antelope valley and riverside area. This is a lot tougher place to coach than those two. His last job ended in 06 with a lousy record.
Please tell me there were better candidates out there and we didn't settle on this guy because of money. As an Amat Alum I am very disappointed. It's time to clean house. The whole Administration must go

I'd prefer to talk about taking over a weak program and the 3 CIF Titles in a row at Paraclete (followed by 2 after he left) and his CIF Title as a coordinator at JWNorth followed by an appearance in the finals as a head coach.

Trust me, this is a good hire. If there isn't progress then we need to continue to look elsewhere (administration, admissions, financial aid, AD, etc) for solutions.

If this guy couldnt win at riverside poly how is he going to win at amat? Lancers blow it again

This IS a move in a positive direction and Hags has proven that he has what it takes to lead a program from the doldrums (Paraclete) to a power. At North he was a successful coordinator and head coach, and I think that his move to Riv.Poly was a family type move because it is a better school to attend than North. Unfortunately not as much talent.

He cut his teeth at Keifer so he will be embraced, BUT...I would caution all Lancers (caps for you '73!) to let him go to work and let that DAILY WORK speak for us. It is way to early to pop off and proclaim anything, as there is much to do and that generally comes back to haunt you. We are on the right path and have a leader that knows how to navigate the terrain.

Now let's let the kids earn their stripes on the field and in the weight room.

Joe,
Graduated with his older brother Kevin and contributed to Mrs.Hagerty's late fund a few times also. Steve was boy's dean when my son was there. Great guy and I am sure he is just what we needed after what we just went thru which was no fault of Coach Verti's. Glad he was the pick and I agree that I hope we have seen the last of the nation and back to THE FAMILY which we all know should have been all along.

a 10-27-3 coach? Nice hire amat. And the losing continues. baaaaaaaa haaaaaa More fun years of amat losing football and more fun of amat bashing.

Reading that article from the press enterprise it reminds me of Verti's years. Losing and being bashed on the blogs. Better get use to it here too. They can't get anything right over there. Nice hire Monsignor

This is Great news for Amat and I am happy with the selection of coach Hagerty. 45-46 year old coach with lots of experience, inheriting this solid core of returning players, sounds like the shot in the arm Amat needed. Amat will rise once again under a former Alumni. Cannot wait to see our Mighty Men in Blue and Gold take the field under this new coach. Werrrrrre Back!

73,

Nice ! : )

I still have big issues with the big bald guy in black at the very top and we need some changes in other areas as well (coughcoughboysbasketballcoughcough) so all caps is tough,
BUT this IS a huge step in the right direction - If they let Steve do his thing.

I'm sure that that was discussed in the process and I'm guessing that they've learned the lesson. No more "Lancer Nation" the "Family" is on it's way back!....I hope. You remember Steve's Mom and siblings, right?

So yes, I might even mix in some capitalization now and then.

doesn't matter... amat will still be the laughing stock and stomping mat of Pac5 football. sgv football is still a joke

They will announce it at their salute to the coaches event. Hagerty is the New Coach, count on it. Aguirre has a cush job with CIF, he does not want the headaches.

Posted by: Lancer 2 DN at January 31, 2008 11:03 AM

It was a secret to some.

Joe Amat
I get the feeling you are happy with choice of our new coach. Now does this bring us back to caps when you are dicussing AMAT in your posts or are we not quite there yet.

Here's the skinny on the search from past posts. ****were added today to highlight important points stated earlier

...and I'm sure that we'll get a chance to talk much more later.

A few things:
Aguirre coached with Salter - not Parades. His son was a student at amat at that time. He was brought on by Salter after having prior City Section head coaching experience
(I want to say Franklin - help?)***Garfield****
and then won 2 titles at Carson. As an Assistant Commissioner in the City Section he would also be a great future AD, which would be in line with my theory that it is also Manzo's final year, as he looks to move on and do other things.
******This could be a sticking point with Aguirre, as amat would have to put together a package that would match an Assistant Commissioners salary, and AD could be a part of that. Keep an eye on this one. Maybe Manzo's covering his bases in case those "other things" don't come thru and that's why he may be contacting others that may not be AD candidates, like Layton.

I can guarantee one thing, and that is if Roddy comes on campus it is not "to listen to offers" as none of those will be made. That would imply that he is a choice, and he is a ways down on the pecking order right now. He may have discussions about the situation, facilities, possibilities - but numbers will not be discussed until a candidate is selected/offered.

The other "weird thing" is MSGr is not really hip on recruiting/stealing/making first contact with head coaches from other schools. This points away from Layton or Heggins(who has NO chance) and Willigs St Paul connection with MSGr scares me - but I can't imagine that MSGr will get his way this time after how his last few coaching choices have turned out.

All of this points to Aguirre or a name that hasn't been mentioned too much here -
*******and that is Steve Hagerty. amat alum, former teacher/dean/assistant, went to Paraclete and won a few consecutive CIF titles and left the program in good enough shape that they won some more after he was gone. He left Paraclete to go to JW North with former amat coach Mark Parades and won a CIF Championship there. He struggled a bit at Riverside Poly, and presently is a coordinator at Citrus Hill. He would be a great choice, as well as Aguirre, and they probably run 1-2 on the list - with a BIG gap between 2 & 3.

It will be interesting.

Posted by: Joe Amat at January 22, 2008 11:11 PM

Fact: Aguirre and Hagerty are running 1-2 or 2-1 in the sweepstakes, and both would be great choices with successful backgrounds.
Thoughts:Aguirre might also fill the need (either immediately or in the near future for a strong & competent Athletic Director. ***Hags might come at a slightly cheaper price.***
Aguirre is more "old school" and would bring back some old-time toughness while Hagerty is probably more innovative offensively. Aguirre might be more "businesslike" while Hags might have a little more "dynamic" personality.

****Aguirre is to Parades what Hagerty is to Salter, if I can make that comparison****

Each have some great positives so I, and many others, hope that one of these two works out.

Posted by: Joe Amat at January 25, 2008 9:55 AM

***I guess that it did!!

Aguirre would have been just as good a choice - maybe in a different way. I, for one, would have liked to see Aguirre be the AD too. Not sure Hags wants that mess right now. Let's let him just coach and bring some excitement back to Keifer***

He'll be AD too, right???

Tell us that MANZO is gone too!! If so, it truly is a FRESH start for Amat!!

If not, he's going to have a very tough time with NO support from the AD's office!!

Don,
Glad to see you take most of our post's as fun . If most of the people took what is stated here as just a way to have some relief from the daily grind of life we would all be better off. You're welcome to come and sit with alot of us old school fools at any one of our home games next season and cheer on the new coach.

Bishop Amat Names New Head Football Coach

La Puente. Bishop Amat High School Principal, Dr. Merritt Hemenway, today announced that Bishop Amat President, Monsignor Aidan Carroll, has named Mr. Stephen Hagerty as Head Football Coach to replace Mark Verti who resigned last month.

Its Hagerty....press release is out.

Its Hagerty....press release is out.

Bishop Amat Names New Head Football Coach

La Puente. Bishop Amat High School Principal, Dr. Merritt Hemenway, today announced that Bishop Amat President, Monsignor Aidan Carroll, has named Mr. Stephen Hagerty as Head Football Coach to replace Mark Verti who resigned last month.

Haggerty....the press release is out.

Haggerty....the press release is out.

Bishop Amat Names New Head Football Coach

La Puente. Bishop Amat High School Principal, Dr. Merritt Hemenway, today announced that Bishop Amat President, Monsignor Aidan Carroll, has named Mr. Stephen Hagerty as Head Football Coach to replace Mark Verti who resigned last month.

Haggerty....the press release is out.

Bishop Amat Names New Head Football Coach

La Puente. Bishop Amat High School Principal, Dr. Merritt Hemenway, today announced that Bishop Amat President, Monsignor Aidan Carroll, has named Mr. Stephen Hagerty as Head Football Coach to replace Mark Verti who resigned last month.

Poly coach Hagerty resigns

FOOTBALL: He can't repeat previous success, going 10-27-3 in four years and 3-7 this past season.

11:44 PM PST on Monday, December 11, 2006

By MICHAEL BECKER
The Press-Enterprise

RIVERSIDE - Riverside Poly football coach Steve Hagerty was forced to resign Monday following a 3-7 season in which the Bears were ravaged by key injuries and inconsistent play.

"I had no idea that it was coming," Hagerty said. "I was blindsided."

Hagerty finished 10-27-3 in his four years at Poly, where he also served as a physical education teacher.

"We just didn't win enough football games, I guess," Hagerty said.

Injuries to its starting quarterback and running back decimated Poly's lineup this season, and the Bears lost four straight games to end the year. But with a fan base known for fervent support, Hagerty faced parental complaints and sniping Internet chatter, which, Hagerty said, likely contributed to his dismissal.

"After it goes on for a certain period of time," Hagerty said, "people tend to believe things as if they're true. I'm sure it contributed to the issue."

Hagerty, whose son is a junior wide receiver at Poly, said Monday he didn't know if, or when, he would coach again. He'll instead spend time with his family to ease it through the situation.

"I'm not concerned about coaching," Hagerty said. "I'll figure out what's best for everyone. I'll make sense of this and find something good in it all."

Poly Principal Frank Paredes, who informed Hagerty of the decision Monday, released a statement but did not return a phone message seeking additional comment.

"Coach Hagerty is a hardworking coach and teacher who knows the game of football very well," Paredes said. "We hope this change will help take the football program in a new, winning direction."

Previous to Poly, Hagerty spent three seasons at Riverside North, including a stint as head coach in 2002. Hagerty led Lancaster Paraclete to three CIF championships in the 1990s.

Poly athletic director Bob Ritzau said he wasn't able to comment and referred all questions to Paredes.

"I'm a little confused," Hagerty said. "I guess I'll be able to figure it out on my own along the way at what point somebody lost confidence in me.

"I still wish I was going to school tomorrow as the head coach for lots of reasons, but I accept their decision."

Honeymoon, I know BUT!!!

Amat is improving how???

Poly coach Hagerty resigns

FOOTBALL: He can't repeat previous success, going 10-27-3 in four years and 3-7 this past season.

11:44 PM PST on Monday, December 11, 2006

By MICHAEL BECKER
The Press-Enterprise

RIVERSIDE - Riverside Poly football coach Steve Hagerty was forced to resign Monday following a 3-7 season in which the Bears were ravaged by key injuries and inconsistent play.

"I had no idea that it was coming," Hagerty said. "I was blindsided."

Hagerty finished 10-27-3 in his four years at Poly, where he also served as a physical education teacher.

"We just didn't win enough football games, I guess," Hagerty said.

Injuries to its starting quarterback and running back decimated Poly's lineup this season, and the Bears lost four straight games to end the year. But with a fan base known for fervent support, Hagerty faced parental complaints and sniping Internet chatter, which, Hagerty said, likely contributed to his dismissal.

"After it goes on for a certain period of time," Hagerty said, "people tend to believe things as if they're true. I'm sure it contributed to the issue."

Hagerty, whose son is a junior wide receiver at Poly, said Monday he didn't know if, or when, he would coach again. He'll instead spend time with his family to ease it through the situation.

"I'm not concerned about coaching," Hagerty said. "I'll figure out what's best for everyone. I'll make sense of this and find something good in it all."

Poly Principal Frank Paredes, who informed Hagerty of the decision Monday, released a statement but did not return a phone message seeking additional comment.

"Coach Hagerty is a hardworking coach and teacher who knows the game of football very well," Paredes said. "We hope this change will help take the football program in a new, winning direction."

Previous to Poly, Hagerty spent three seasons at Riverside North, including a stint as head coach in 2002. Hagerty led Lancaster Paraclete to three CIF championships in the 1990s.

Poly athletic director Bob Ritzau said he wasn't able to comment and referred all questions to Paredes.

"I'm a little confused," Hagerty said. "I guess I'll be able to figure it out on my own along the way at what point somebody lost confidence in me.

"I still wish I was going to school tomorrow as the head coach for lots of reasons, but I accept their decision."

OK joe, give us the lowdown on him again will you?

OK Joe, give us the lowdown on him.

Just a little fyi if true!!!

I know about the honeymoon, but if true, Amat is improving how???

Poly coach Hagerty resigns

FOOTBALL: He can't repeat previous success, going 10-27-3 in four years and 3-7 this past season.

11:44 PM PST on Monday, December 11, 2006

By MICHAEL BECKER
The Press-Enterprise

RIVERSIDE - Riverside Poly football coach Steve Hagerty was forced to resign Monday following a 3-7 season in which the Bears were ravaged by key injuries and inconsistent play.

"I had no idea that it was coming," Hagerty said. "I was blindsided."

Hagerty finished 10-27-3 in his four years at Poly, where he also served as a physical education teacher.

"We just didn't win enough football games, I guess," Hagerty said.

Injuries to its starting quarterback and running back decimated Poly's lineup this season, and the Bears lost four straight games to end the year. But with a fan base known for fervent support, Hagerty faced parental complaints and sniping Internet chatter, which, Hagerty said, likely contributed to his dismissal.

"After it goes on for a certain period of time," Hagerty said, "people tend to believe things as if they're true. I'm sure it contributed to the issue."

Hagerty, whose son is a junior wide receiver at Poly, said Monday he didn't know if, or when, he would coach again. He'll instead spend time with his family to ease it through the situation.

"I'm not concerned about coaching," Hagerty said. "I'll figure out what's best for everyone. I'll make sense of this and find something good in it all."

Poly Principal Frank Paredes, who informed Hagerty of the decision Monday, released a statement but did not return a phone message seeking additional comment.

"Coach Hagerty is a hardworking coach and teacher who knows the game of football very well," Paredes said. "We hope this change will help take the football program in a new, winning direction."

Previous to Poly, Hagerty spent three seasons at Riverside North, including a stint as head coach in 2002. Hagerty led Lancaster Paraclete to three CIF championships in the 1990s.

Poly athletic director Bob Ritzau said he wasn't able to comment and referred all questions to Paredes.

"I'm a little confused," Hagerty said. "I guess I'll be able to figure it out on my own along the way at what point somebody lost confidence in me.

"I still wish I was going to school tomorrow as the head coach for lots of reasons, but I accept their decision."

Just a little fyi if true!!!

I know about the honeymoon, but if true, Amat is improving how???

Poly coach Hagerty resigns

FOOTBALL: He can't repeat previous success, going 10-27-3 in four years and 3-7 this past season.

11:44 PM PST on Monday, December 11, 2006

By MICHAEL BECKER
The Press-Enterprise

RIVERSIDE - Riverside Poly football coach Steve Hagerty was forced to resign Monday following a 3-7 season in which the Bears were ravaged by key injuries and inconsistent play.

"I had no idea that it was coming," Hagerty said. "I was blindsided."

Hagerty finished 10-27-3 in his four years at Poly, where he also served as a physical education teacher.

"We just didn't win enough football games, I guess," Hagerty said.

Injuries to its starting quarterback and running back decimated Poly's lineup this season, and the Bears lost four straight games to end the year. But with a fan base known for fervent support, Hagerty faced parental complaints and sniping Internet chatter, which, Hagerty said, likely contributed to his dismissal.

"After it goes on for a certain period of time," Hagerty said, "people tend to believe things as if they're true. I'm sure it contributed to the issue."

Hagerty, whose son is a junior wide receiver at Poly, said Monday he didn't know if, or when, he would coach again. He'll instead spend time with his family to ease it through the situation.

"I'm not concerned about coaching," Hagerty said. "I'll figure out what's best for everyone. I'll make sense of this and find something good in it all."

Poly Principal Frank Paredes, who informed Hagerty of the decision Monday, released a statement but did not return a phone message seeking additional comment.

"Coach Hagerty is a hardworking coach and teacher who knows the game of football very well," Paredes said. "We hope this change will help take the football program in a new, winning direction."

Previous to Poly, Hagerty spent three seasons at Riverside North, including a stint as head coach in 2002. Hagerty led Lancaster Paraclete to three CIF championships in the 1990s.

Poly athletic director Bob Ritzau said he wasn't able to comment and referred all questions to Paredes.

"I'm a little confused," Hagerty said. "I guess I'll be able to figure it out on my own along the way at what point somebody lost confidence in me.

"I still wish I was going to school tomorrow as the head coach for lots of reasons, but I accept their decision."

Whomever it is hope all in this blog do not get to crazy on the guy like most did Verti. I am sure it is a upgrade, look for a new look Amat team next year. It is always good and exciting to see a new look. I am sure it will be allot better than what we got the last 2 years. Yes us Amat people do go off allot here and really stray off topic to boast our pride. We do need a Amat only Chat line.

Whomever it is hope all in this blog do not get to crazy on the guy like most did Verti. I am sure it is a upgrade, look for a new look Amat team next year. It is always good and exciting to see a new look. I am sure it will be allot better than what we got the last 2 years. Yes us Amat people do go off allot here and really stray off topic to boast our pride. We do need a Amat only Chat line.

HAGERTY!!

BTW, let the hater's hate. It's what they do.

And good luck to whoever the Lancer's choose. Let's give the guy a nice honeymoon, huh?

'73,

You guys who have been here awhile know I am as big a Lancer fan as anyone (who doesn't actually have a kid there, anyways), but there are times when I don't get back here for a few days and miss some stuff.

You Amat guys can and do go off the reservation thread-wise, so to speak, and I don't like missing any of the fun. You are, after all, our only D1 school nearbouts.

Maybe an Amat banner ticker is excessive.

Done deal.

You sure?

Steve Hagerty's their man!

Don,
With that comment watch the sh_t hit the fan now. Giving the haters a big hunk of bait with that statement.

Have you guys considered converting the ticker to a full time Amat ticker?

I have trouble keeping up with the many directions the Lancer faithful go off in on the different threads and for one would appreciate a consistent location to find my daily Amat news update.

Just an idea.

So you already know who it is Fred?