Wow nice research.. That's what this blog should be about... very nice :)

Sgvbaseballfan;

I took to heart what you said about not every good team in the valley being in the Glendora Tournament. And it gave me a GREAT idea.With no furthur adieu (sp)? I present to you.....

BASEBALL NUT TOP TEN TEAMS NOT IN GLENDORA TOURNAMENT...(i like polls)

1.San Dimas---Number #3 in CIF Div IV poll,when all is said & done good chance to be #1.Like their chances with Ponzo on the hill and man can they mash!
2.Nogales---With Melchor,tradition and coaching staff B nut's choice to upset South Hills in league this year.
3.Diamond Bar---Playing in this brutal league has made them tough to beat,should be improved over last year's powerful squad.
4.Covina---Many seniors on a team that lost to eventual champ Charter Oak 4-2 in CIF playoffs.
5.Glendora---B Nut tries to stay above the fray,but with this talent pool should be a much better team.Losing 10 run lead while letting one pitcher flounder the whole inning is unbelievable.
6.South Hills---Like Covina, lost close playoff game to eventual CIF champ.Like Glendora dissension swirling around Head Coach.
7.Damien---This team came close to making playoffs last year in very tough league. Many good players and could suprise.
8.Baldwin Park---Beat Northview last year and gave SD and Covina many tough games. Just a key hit or play from being among the best.Good ace this year,BP fans write in and let us know about your #1 guy.
9.West Covina---Beat Charter Oak 4-0 last year and is a very solid team. Their ace is solid and makes this team a contender.
10.La Puente---Makes playoffs almost every year and have a pretty decent talent level. Walnut almost made this spot because I hear they have good pitching,however, they will have to stay on the bubble for now.

Okay guys let me know about some teams that are good but not getting much attention. A team that will come out of nowhere to suprise. Good luck to all teams. PLAY BALL!

U actually can't say that because not every team in the valley is in that tourny..

its simple u you want yo find out who is the best pitcher and pitching staff in the valley just look at who has won the glendora tourney the past 5 years amat, look who they have had adam simon, randy serrato, pete lavin, maverick olivares, chris eusebio, michael hidalgo, all great pitchers so if u really want to argue amat has had and probably will for awhile have the best pitching staff hands down and all the stuff about ikky, zuniga, and hauer, who cares who does what im pretty sure if they all pitch and win cif thats all thats gonna matter

haha i love reading this stuff... all you people are lame, its one thing to wish a team good luck and hope they have a good season. but most you guys get too detailed and a little bit too serious on this thing...bringing down other teams and opposing players. Im pretty sure there is not one kid out there who doesnt try his hardest to benifit his team or improve himself as a player. now these are the things i know about in highschool baseball. Alrite so BA is going to have most there wins on the shoulders of Zuniga, thats a given. But cant forget about there 1-9 batting lineup that would scare any pitcher. Chris Torres. (ikky) he can throw for strikes, now is there anything wrong with that?? what is a pitchers job? throw strikes and hit thier spots. I think ikky will get a few wins with his lineup behind him. reyes,mistone,fox,even zuniga can hit. i dont really know the rest of there team, ive seen them play travel ball. in Charter Oak they have a really good program and coaching. (smart coaching) They have a strong 1-9 and good relief in the pen. Ummm didnt Los Altos beat them twice last year?? i think once by a senior and a sophmore randy or ronnie blagg. I seen them play as well, two good baseball players. i think the pitcher of the twins barely lost to Pill in a tournement. sometime last year. But LA lost alot of there players last year so we'll see on them. Then Bonita has decent pitching... Mier at short, i forgot who there pitchers are? Then there is that galiliech kid...i have never seen a more perfect lefty swing, when he gets a hold of one bubye ball. Anywayz. GOODLUCK to all the players. Have a good season and may God bless you all

So I think most of us have the same feeling, let the snot-nose kids have their fun here, do not engage in banter... I so get it. Trust me, it will get heated in here (and NOTHING as tacky as the football blog) but as long as we try and stay smart and respect! Now JOE AMAT - one last time, YES, BISHOP AMAT HAS A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF DOING WELL IN DIVISION 5, then say any OTHER DIVISION. Plain and simple... Now best of luck to you and enjoy the season.

Wow I can't beleave your actually attacking kids on here.. Your prooving why these blogs are looked down on... you guys are horrible if all do u do with life is talk crap about HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.. If u don't have positives to say don't say anything thoose people should be banned from the blog

This has gotten stupid as most of the blog stuff does eventually get. I'd say it's a very small group of people on here ripping the top players in the SGV, but it gets everyone irritated and upset and kids and parents start feeling the need to defend themselves here, which is not the place nor should they have to. Mistone, Pedroza, Reyes, and all these other kids are legit. Is this all we can come up with on the baseball board is ripping the area's best?

what are you talking about? someone is a hater on mistone. hes legit whos a better 3rd basemen then him in the valley? or from like co? rj arnold would probably be equivalent but name someone else besides arnold and de la fuente. thats right and come on thats harsh on saying someone sucks balls. just say that they suck. immature people arguing over something they are not involved with. at that they are PARENTS arguing over this just let the teams game speak for themselves this season

well i hope the kids have now gone to bed -- really please do not engage in conversation with the little ones - keep it real, keep it as positive as possible and remember and respect most of us are true-blue fans to each of our favorite teams. i get we need to compare but keep in mind these are JUST high school kids. lets all enjoy a great upcoming baseball season. good luck to all

you people must have no life!!!!!

justin herrera is no good cant even catch a fly ball!!!! the whole Bishop amat team sucks! to be onest with you i dnt even know why Andrew Mistone was on fox sports net he sucks he is not even lidgit!!!!!!He is almost as bad as Ryan hauer!!!!

what are you talking about? ryan hauer ur absoutly rite he is no good but he does work extremly hard!!!!!!!

what are you talking about? ryan hauer ur absoutly rite he is no good but he does work extremly hard!!!!!!!

ikky torres good enough to play anywhere in the country!!!!!!!! Ryan Hauer suck balls not good enough to play on JV!!!!!!!!!

ikky torres good enough to play anywhere in the country!!!!!!!! Ryan Hauer suck balls not good enough to play on JV!!!!!!!!!

sgvfan2,

The thing about facts is...well they are facts and you can't escape them or attribute them to "feelings". You obviously have some "feelings" about amat, as do I. We probably agree on some of them. However, the point initially made was that the playoff division and competition "...do not compare..."(your words).

So I showed you how they do. Monrovia beat Covina and shut out Charter Oak 8-0. Now I agree that the "transitive property" doesn't always work in sports so because we beat Monrovia 7-5 doesn't mean that we would have beat CO 15-5.
Temple City beat South Hills - does that compare? You remember South Hills - the team that was eliminated from the playoffs by Loyola. Thats the same Loyola team that beat Santa Monica, who knocked off Northview but lost to Notre Dame(SO) who swept West Covina but was beaten by Montclair Prep - another amat playoff foe.

You simply asked to *compare* playoff opponents - does that help you "compare?"

Now again..."What, specifically, did I write that you disagree with?"

Joe Amat - while all of your facts-spewing is most enlightening and admirable, can you JUST ADMIT, BA very much has an advantage in D5, then say D1,2,3 or maybe even 4???? Any of the Top 5 teams would fair far better in D5 then where they are currently - right? I base more on giving them credit for winning the Glendora Tourney then CIF Div. 5 Champs.. Don't waste your valuable time with a mile-long list of w-l.. if LIFE were based on all facts - shouldn't the #1 always beat the #2 team!! Come on - admit for once.

Joe Amat - while all of your facts-spewing is most enlightening and admirable, can you JUST ADMIT, BA very much has an advantage in D5, then say D1,2,3 or maybe even 4???? Any of the Top 5 teams would fair far better in D5 then where they are currently - right? I base more on giving them credit for winning the Glendora Tourney then CIF Div. 5 Champs.. Don't waste your valuable time with a mile-long list of w-l.. if LIFE were based on all facts - shouldn't the #1 always beat the #2 team!! Come on - admit for once.

Shortstops?

How about Mier and Winkler from the Miramonte?

Some pretty fair hands in that league too.

ok then u say talent at small schools such as northview and co... besides de la fuente and pill name players that r like chris amezquita, gerrit cole, aaron hicks, etc. name a pitcher that competes with cole name a shortstop that compares with ramhatulla, and name an outfield that compares with hicks and gose. or a 3rd basemen such asamezquita... and for underclassmen do u really think a shortstop compares to david nick? this isnt docking any players it is jus individual talent of sgv vs oc

My son had the privilege to play with both Icky and Brady in Arkansas a few summers ago. They are both great kids. They both also happened to pitch great in Arkansas. Brady was a starter and Icky the closer. They both complimented each other well. Heck their dads even hung out together. I don't think either of their parents would say anything bad about the other's kid. Amat fans be happy you have both these fine pitchers. I saw Brady pitch twice last season against Glendora and St. Pauland and he looked great both times. If given the chance I'm sure Icky will also succeed. Good luck to both these fine young men.

sgvfan2 ,

What, specifically, did I write that you disagree with?

What people like you continue to miss by selectively choosing to live in the past that YOU choose to remember - is that it is not the "old days" anymore. This is not your daddys' CIF.

You asked. Right? I gave you facts. Right?

Your turn.

OF COURSE YOU DO NOT JOE AMAT AND I FEAR YOU NEVER WILL.... OPEN THE MIND.....SO MUCH TIME AVAILABLE TO CRY 'THE AMAT BLUES' AND YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT - YOUR 1500 ARE THE SAME AS THE OTHERS - COME ON NOW, WISE UP OR JUST BE HONEST

While we have hashed and rehashed this, As far as 2007 baseball is concerned, before beating Monrovia and Eddie McKiernan (who also beat Covina and shut out DIV champion Charter Oak 8-0 BTW) -the Lancers also also beat Temple City - who beat South Hills, Montclair Prep-who beat Notre Dame Sherman Oaks., Calvary Chapel Murrieta-who beat Gladstone and legendary coach Rich Remkus., amat swept St Paul-who shut out Glendora, amat beat Orange Lutheran-who beat Mater Dei, Santa Margarita, Servite, and St John Bosco in league, amat beat 24-3 Crescenta Valley in the finals of the Glendora Tourney after also beating Glendora, Northview, and a 20-7 Rubidoux team, who beat DIV CIF Champion Charter Oak, along the way.

So given those comparisons and who those teams also defeated, I don't see a huge disparity between the opponents that the lancers faced and the teams in DIV. Sorry

What I do get is that the rules are now exactly the same for everyone involved. It is up to a school to make the commitment to build a program and it is within their means to do so.

The reality is that EVERY public school student is getting a FULL scholarship on our tax dollars. Most private schools have the tuition hurdle to overcome to some extent, while SOME players MIGHT get partial financial assistance. Many families do not even consider the private school because of tuition.

The other reality is that with open enrollment for 8th graders entering high school and the one-time transfer after the freshmen year there are no more advantages for private schools regarding boundaries. It is just as easy, and in most instances easier, for a public school student to jump boundaries to attend another public school. Believe it or not, the coaches at private schools do not run the show and admission standards come in to play quite often.

Another obstacle is a long time guideline that amat administration has adhered to is refraining from accepting transfers who are going to be a senior. There may be a few exceptions but the feeling is that an amat diploma must be earned, and not just with one year of attendance.

Student movement is done at the better public schools in our valley (Glendora, South hills, Charter Oak, Diamond Ranch, Los Altos, and yes - even Northview). The movement of athletes is rampant around CIF in just as many public schools as private schools and is always noticed because of the relatively few schools that are successful vs the vast majority that haven't figured it out yet.

Private schools have no automatic 1,000 student middle school feeders across the street and their natural feeders are private elementary/middle schools spread across the region with 30-60 students in each 8th grade class. There is no natural Pop Warner/JAA program practicing at their fields that feed directly to the school or city NJB basketball program in their gym every weekend. You can go to a dozen schools in the valley and see this every weekend. Yet it is an "outrage" when someone suggests that the Dukes help the Amat baseball program.

For every Bishop Amat and St Paul there is a Cantwell, and a Bosco Tech that no one accuses of having an advantage and are in a hurry to schedule - because they are not as successful, even though the rules and opportunities are the same.

So for a public school to claim an advantage they are really only admitting to an inferior commitment to providing a quality athletic program and doing what they need to do to attract student/athletes.

Yeah, Z has been shutting down teams all winter and icky has been getting lit like a firecracker! Z is going to shut down CO. Icky might warm up some pitchers in the bullpen. If icky was any good would Nieto have him warming up the bullpen. That stud Howard would do a better job than icky, he throws harder and with more control. In winter ball he's been playing with older boys to get him ready for next year, since Nieto hasn't given him a chance!!!There are even two super sophomores that would pitch better than icky. Is it icky or ikky, I guess it don't matter if he doesn't play!

If you're referring to me, I don't know anything about Nieto (although I'm pretty sure I can spell his name right)or any of Bishop Amat's players, and I have no idea who Icky is, nor do I care. I have my own kids to cheer for, although they are already pretty much set. I will never bash anyone on this board, nor will I ever "kiss anyone's butt" - I don't need to.

joe amat - don't take things so literal, i am sure even YOU get that YOUR 1500 is way different than azusa, northview and the others schools in that range -right? and i hate to jump on the division 5 thing AGAIN but even you BA guys know the playoff teams do not compare - right? not saying you couldn't compete higher but we may never know right?

Beck this!,

What makes you think I am not the other kids parent. Icky has more talent? He needs to prove that first. Z proves his status.

Wow, can u possibly kiss Neito's butt any better than that. Do u think Ikky's parents would post a stupid message like that? Ur probably the same person that sent both messages and signed it "by parent". Quit talking trash.

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Joe Amat - I guess the cheerleader was pretty close on the enrollment! I have seen the "basketball arena" and the baseball field and you are right, they are unbelievable. To some of you other posters, there are a lot of great players in the SGV, so let's give them some props instead of comparing and putting them down. By the way, I don't know of any D1 school that gives full scholarships, although that's what "parents" may tell you. As someone mentioned, with only 11.7 scholarships to give they are usually split up, with more given to some than others. In the case of Cal State Fullerton, they are able to get a lot of players on books because of their winning tradition and the fact that it is not one of the more expensive schools. As far as Bishop Amat and what division they are in, that decision wasn't made by players or parents, so "over it". It is what it is.

Parent,
You sound like typical mom protecting her young. It is no wonder they call Icky a Mommas boy. What has Icky done for Amat? You slam Zuniga a teamate of his? why? this is not little league or travel ball coached by daddy, it is HS ball and the my kid has to pitch to the harder teams BS is just flat out immature on your part. If ou dont like it take him back to Arroyo where he belongs. We want real players at Amat not crybaby parents and players. You would not make that statement if your kids is not whining to you about having to pitch to the big boys. Nieto knows what he is doing but you dont get it. He is seasoning your lil icky and I use that team lightly to get him ready to play at a high competitive level. He knows what Z can do but you should be happy he is grooming Icky to get in with the heavys it will help him this year and next year...

All of you JV parents need to leave the kids alone. Just because most of you sucked when you were in high school and now you’re trying to live vicariously through your kid. Putting tons of unneeded pressure on him and putting down all the other kids. What do you guys accomplish by talking all this trash? If your kid is good enough he’s going to play. If he’s a really good player then he might get a full ride, but writing trash about other kids (kids that you don’t really know) isn’t going to get your kid a full or a partial anywhere. The bottom line is that the kids are the one's that will need to put up the number. They will need to back up all the trash that your talking.

titan

Santiago\Corona) 4058

On another topic i mentioned the facilities in the newer Inland Empire schools and I was referring to Santiago. I have not seen it in person but I heard it is unbelievable.

Pedroza IS the real deal, having seen him play since he was 10 years old. Reyes (Amat's SS) is also a very good player, but they are both DIFFERENT TYPE of Players!

Props to both of them for representing the Valley moving forward in D1 College baseball!!

As mentioned to receive ANY type of assistance via Baseball at the D1 level means alot.

What about Amat's Mistone??? Saw him on Fox the other night and 3.? GPA.... you've got to be kidding, right?? What is he Manzo's office aide for 2 periods and Nieto's the other 2???

Poor kid... he was supposed to be the second coming of A-Rod.... Soooo much pressure to put on a 17 year old (from Pops, family,etc...)

As mentioned in other posts... IF D1 was serious about any player, they would have SIGNED in November. Any offers that come now, are filler offers, basically replacing those original signees that got drafted, didn't have the grades etc.....

Ya d4 is way more competitive than d5... you got charter oak covina san dimas northview bonita and other good schools... you make an all star team from both divisions d4 would smash hands down

Joe Amat,
You kidding me about the enrollment stuff? Amat's 1,500 is different than a Duarte's 1,500. You have athletes that have been recruited to attend your school. You honestly think the Amat student body all live on the WC/LP border? Come on now, that's something for you to chew on.

Also,
Div. 1 Baseball given 11.7 scholarships to divide up among their teams. Brother connections definately help, but the youngest Pedroza must be able to play to be an early sign my friend. Once again, if you read the posts, nothing real negative said about your boy at Amat playing SS, but man, what's with the negativity about NV's SS. A little jealousy that he's getting some pub? And someone else wrote about Div. 4 vs. Div. 5 not being that different. Are you out of your mind. Read the Div. 4 playoff teams vs. the Div. 5 ones last year. It's not even close.

Ikky who??? What has he done? Who has he pitched against? Was he on the bench last year or did he play JV?

You're pretty good - I will definitely not question you on your facts! LOL What is the enrollment at Corona Santiago HS? Covina High played them in their first CIF basketball game, and one of the cheerleaders said their enrollment was around 4,000. Needless to say, it was a blowout. Unbelievable gym. Actually, I think I would call it an arena!

True. Most of those schools in the OC are larger and have closer to 3000 students than the 1500-2000 that the typical SGV school.
Aliso Niguel 3226
Trabuco Hills 3104
Dana Hills 3088
Dana Hills 3088
Los Alamitos 3090
Mission Viejo 2927
Mater Dei 2309
El Dorado 2376
La Habra 2322

THe schools most like the SGV schools are
Los Amigos 2222
El Modena 2244
Brea Olinda 2070
Sonora 1967
Bolsa Grande 1598
Costa Mesa 1243
Costa Mesa 1243
Ocean View 1538
although Orange Lutheran only has 1295

By contrast all of the Long Beach Schools have around 4000 students with Poly\Long Beach leading the way with 4704

Joe Amat - I was not referring to schools around here, but rather the large schools in OC, as some posters seem to want to compare us to. If you had a kid that played in showcases, etc, with kids from these larger schools you would know what I mean. Was definitely not talking about Bishop Amat. But as you can obviously see, there is a big difference in enrollment between Diamond Bar and some of the schools on your list. That's what I wanted to say - but I will only post it once. LOL

well honestly in my opinion i think "zuniga" is not good at all.he only looks good because they have him pitching on easy games.And they have "Icky" pitching all the hard games and it makes him look bad.It is not fair at all to Icky because he tries hard.They need to put zuniga in the hard games and show him how it is!Icky always tries his best to succeed and he always does and so does zuniga.but zuniga only succeeds because they pitch him the easy games.honestly icky has way more talent.

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well honestly in my opinion i think "zuniga" is not good at all.he only looks good because they have him pitching on easy games.And they have "Icky" pitching all the hard games and it makes him look bad.It is not fair at all to Icky because he tries hard.They need to put zuniga in the hard games and show him how it is!Icky always tries his best to succeed and he always does and so does zuniga.but zuniga only succeeds because they pitch him the easy games.honestly icky has way more talent.

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sorry about that... computer issues or my finger stutters - not sure which

titan fan,

It's always a good idea to have a bit of knowledge and information before commenting. Here are present enrollments from October to chew on:

Diamond Bar 3257
West Covina 2878
Glendora 2721
Rowland 2481
Nogales 2459
Baldwin Park 2379
Charter Oak 2136
South Hills 2089
Los Altos 2062
El Monte 2041
Bonita 1887
Covina 1606
Gladstone 1585
Azusa 1580
Northview 1533
Bishop Amat 1503

now what was it you wanted to say?

titan fan,

It's always a good idea to have a bit of knowledge and information before commenting. Here are present enrollments from October to chew on:

Diamond Bar 3257
West Covina 2878
Glendora 2721
Rowland 2481
Nogales 2459
Baldwin Park 2379
Charter Oak 2136
South Hills 2089
Los Altos 2062
El Monte 2041
Bonita 1887
Covina 1606
Gladstone 1585
Azusa 1580
Northview 1533
Bishop Amat 1503

now what was it you wanted to say?

titan fan,

It's always a good idea to have a bit of knowledge and information before commenting. Here are present enrollments from October to chew on:

Diamond Bar 3257
West Covina 2878
Glendora 2721
Rowland 2481
Nogales 2459
Baldwin Park 2379
Charter Oak 2136
South Hills 2089
Los Altos 2062
El Monte 2041
Bonita 1887
Covina 1606
Gladstone 1585
Azusa 1580
Northview 1533
Bishop Amat 1503

now what was it you wanted to say?

titan fan,

It's always a good idea to have a bit of knowledge and information before commenting. Here are present enrollments from October to chew on:

Diamond Bar 3257
West Covina 2878
Glendora 2721
Rowland 2481
Nogales 2459
Baldwin Park 2379
Charter Oak 2136
South Hills 2089
Los Altos 2062
El Monte 2041
Bonita 1887
Covina 1606
Gladstone 1585
Azusa 1580
Northview 1533
Bishop Amat 1503

now what was it you wanted to say?

It is ridiculous to compare small schools like Northview, Covina, etc. to huge powerhouse schools (usually private, but we won't start on that subject) who have at least triple the enrollment. Comparing individual players is different, as you can have an excellent player at a small school and vice versa.

that shows i have never heard of him. he could probably be good but he does have a connection because his brother went to csuf. but comparing reyes and pedroza. reyes has the edge. and oh my god nv has it so much harder one division higher wow. im not docking them or anything just its only one division higher. we should see how good they are if they play in the national classic or against chatsworth. put them to the test against a top oc team to see realy how good they are

2 things. pedroza is going to csuf because of his brother. hes good no doubt but he isnt the best in the valley or like superstar status such as all american good. but reyes is a more solid shortstop. ba was also a contender in the serra league when they were in it. they also had key wins last year in the bishop gorman tourney and then in the glendora tourney. when was the last time nv won the glendora tourney? thats rite amats won it the past 4 years. and there is no way in hell the sgv is better then the oc this year or any years. the trinity league itself has more d1 signings then the whole sgv. so dont ever say they compare to or r better than the oc

hey what time is NV vs. CO game on Saturday?

hey what time is NV vs. CO game on Saturday?

to answer ??? from below:

yes amat played Northview last year and won 6-2 in the Glendora Tournament.

About nv having the best.. Between pill and smith how can you say that?? Tyler had like a 2.1 and smith had a 1.6 to top that there closer hassnt been seen by the league due to ineligability last year.. People are in for a surprise.. Not taking anything away from nothview there a solid squad and on paper are probly better than covina.. But that's why the games not played on paper

Are you sure about being better than the OC? There are only 4 seniors from the SGV that signed a letter of intent to attend a D1 school. DeLaFuente, Leyland, Reyes and Pill. THis is out of how many high schools? There are some HS's 2 or 3 guys signed to a D1 college.

Realistically speaking this year the valley can finally say that they are better than the orange county in something...to argue on pitching there is no better staff than NV in the valley. Elias Andrade and Macias are absolutely lights out....many forgot about elias last year because of rodriguez but he went 8-2 last year with around a 2.2 era so NV is truly the deepest team in the valley I believe, but then again it is just my belief

Did Bishop Amat play Northview last year??? Or have they ever played each other?

Amen to that.. The game isn't going to be won on the blog. If u want to support your team then go to the games and cheer in a positive way. Most of you probly don't even go to the games just read the newspaper. So please do your supporting out at the games and let the kids do there talking on the field

Why don't you all just wait until the season starts? All of this speculating, comparing, and name-calling is stupid. The best will shine on the field, not on this blog. It takes more than one player to make a team, so please quit your crying and talk about something positive for a change. You are only making yourselves look stupid.

Baseball Fan,
Pedroza is only a junior you idiot, can only give a verbal at this time, which he did. Note to you, no one saying Reyes isn't a good player, in fact, most people saying he's real good, but the B. Amat people are the ones saying bad things about Pedroza. There's a difference and where can I get that t shirt about "Hitting any pitcher" how fruity is that? Also, NV not in Div. 5, so winning a title is a little harder and Northview beat Monrovia also last year and Northview had 8 soph. starters jackass.

pretty sure northview is always overrated and gets their ass kicked the 3 4 5 in ba is the best in the valley reyes mistone and murakami r 3 of the top hitters in the valley and this so called predroza if he has an offer from csf or if its even a college cuz its csuf how come he didnt sign?

Is that the same Padroza that rides race horses..Has he commited to CSF or is going to wait for the draft? He cant carry Reyes jock.. Where is Northview located? Have they ever won anything?

I really only have one question, I'm just curious where that SC Gopher limping coach Andy Nieto's comments are on this blog? I'm surprised he isn't pumping his own tire on here and claiming he is the greatest coach alive (second to "skip") Oh and please spare me that whole thing about "that kid" shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as Reyes. That by far is the most shocking thing I've heard so far to kick off the season. I guess an offer by CSF doesn't mean much around here. Its not like they are a national powerhouse are anything. Reyes is probably that good from attending those overpriced/overrated hitting camps over there at BA. Just remember, do as the shirt says and you'll be great. I believe it reads something along the lines of "I can hit any pitcher." Sweet line there coach. I'm not taking anything away from Reyes, he's real good, but come on be realistic over there one time. Pedroza is also only a junior. Amat/Northview SS----> advantage Northview

Well to be honest I don't think that there is any pitcher that can shut down co.. There coaching mixed with the skill of there team makes it to where you are going to have to just outscore them and not rely on shutting them down.. As far as the experiance of zuianga(sry of spelled wrong) it won't really mean much.. If a pitchers got it he's got it and that's all there is to it.. But I can't see anyone shutting down charter oak for more than a few innings they will score runs

OK i have read these things about CO and BA, i want opinions, does Garkow and the experience of CO pull away with the WIN or does Zuniga come out and throw well for the also experienced Amat team.
Either way, it should be the best game of the tournament.

Good Luck to Los Altos 2008 Varsity Softball Team, may you have a Great & Healthy Season.......
.....LEAVE NO DOUBT LADIES...... GO LA......

Yeah Right,
Reyes vs. Pedroza...you're right, it's no comparison. I don't know what that guy was thinking. Pedroza in a heartbeat. Haven't you seen him play and do you know who his brothers are? Just about 2 of the best hitters the SGV has had in the last 5 years. I like Reyes too, but don't dis a Pedroza. They flat out play.

Tex Top 10...
1. Northview/Charter Oak...I know, a tie is not fun, but I think the NV team is deeper in a lot of areas, but Charter Oak is defending champ, so they both share the top vote FOR now.
3. San Dimas...Do they have another guy that they can count on on the hill? If they do, they're going to be tough.
4. Amat. I need to see them again. Their run through the playoffs was so tainted because of div. 5 opponents and this years team doesn't have Olivares or Eusebio, so time for new stars to step up.
5. Bonita...You can flip flop San Dimas and these guys after they play each other second week of season, so that could help us sort out this rivalry. Impressive #3, 4, 5 hitters.
6. Nogales. This is pure cheating off baseball nut because I haven't seen much of Nogales besides Melcher, but you know you gotta shot if he's your guy on the hill.
7. Glendora...Have a feeling about the Tartans this year...If it's not this year, it's next couple years because they some rookies out there boy.
8. Covina...More respect for these guys than some say, but they in tough league. This team would win a few leagues in the SGV area if you took out NV and San Dimas.
9. Diamond Bar...Just giving the program props here because I don't know much about them, but they're usually good.
10. South Hills. Can't take these guys off the list completely with the talent pool they have. Coach would f... up a wet dream, but as long as he's got ink in his pen and the bus doesn't get lost, they should win some games.

Tex's Red Raiders Findings..
Don't agree with the pitching poll...Can't lose 3 or 4 games in high school and be ranked #1 guy...Sorry Charlie, won't say the school, but the best pitching staff in the area is hardly being talked about...You'll see.

Good luck to all of you out there and to all a good night.

I've had the good fortune of having Brady Zuniga in our program since his freshman year. He is an outstanding pitcher and great kid. We have quite a few colleges talking to us about Brady and are recruiting him. I am rather sure he is starting vs CO. It will be a nice match up vs Garkow.

LP Warrior, relax. Make up your mind. You say his games were hand picked to succeed but never pitched varsity. I believe he threw 33 innings.

Hey Amat parents, are you all as concerened as I am when the Chola and her tatooed husband show up to the games? keep your purses close by and they children at arms length.

Zuniga, Zuniga, Zuniga.... All this talk about Zuniga and he has never pitched at the Varsity level. Last year I saw him warm up several times in the CIF Championship and he was never brought in. Why? Why would you bring in a pitcher that had just thrown that week ( Eusabio ) when you have this "Stud" Zuniga warming up in the bullpen. Zuniga's games are hand picked for him to succeed and I won't be surprised if he doesn't start against Charter Oak. If he wins 2 games in the Glendora tournament then I will retract my statements. As far as I'm concerened Amat has no pitching.

I love the baseball talk we got going here, obviously we need to blow out the coverage this spring..

Softball. Los Altos beat La Serna (#3) and C.O (#4) last year and have all their stars returning as Juniors. They lost to the CIF champs Beckman H.S (#1) in the 9th inning 3-2 in playoffs. Its going to be a good season at LA Softball this year.

sgvbase--you are right, I was the one that mentioned NV being complete, didn't really mean to diss the other schools - just don't know their whole story like I do NV....and I again I emphasis COMPLETE.. also regarding Pill, no disrespect there either -- just challenging another comment about Pill NOT being able to be beaten and again -- ONE guy cannot carry the W or the L for that matter. It is a great league and we know so many of the kids as well. ood luck to all.

Baseball Nut Poll II

1.Charter Oak---If possible would rank them higher.
2.Bishop Amat---Eager to play CO & NV at henderson.
3.Northview---If I know Murphy,(and I do),he is licking his chops with this deep,talented team.
4.San Dimas---After further review I needed to move them up.CIF poll (#3),agrees with me.
5.Nogales---Had the privelege of seeing Melchor vs. Lag. Beach last year.NEWS FLASH He is dominating.And great coach.
6.Bonita---#6 in CIF D4 poll, #6 in B. Nut poll.Could give CO problems in league.
7.Diamond Bar---Brahma fans have been quiet on the blog.Wake up and give some info on your team!
8.Covina---Ty pill & the pips? Teams dont get this good with one player.Should be higher but trying to be objective.
9.Glendora---Also after further review replaces LA at this spot. Too much talent,but like SH & SD dissension swirling around head coach.
10.South Hills---Should not have said "horrible coach". That is not true. Talent level high.Loss to eventual champ loyola. Should have said more dissension around coach than any other program in SGV.

BASEBALL NUT NUGGETS; The top three will all shake out at the Glendora Tourney at Henderson field. March 1st #1 Charter Oak vs. #2 Bishop Amat.....Northview,Glendora & Bonita all will be present...Nice pitcher baseball poll,garkow and pill,your number one and two got to square off last year in round one of playoffs,CO winning 4-2 in a close contest...to all covina fans keep up the support and us insiders know all about,victor v.severin,cody,and all the talent on that team. A quick shout out to a great player flying under the radar. Stephen wilson cf/3b was clutch for the colts last year and the colt nation are looking forward to his play this year. He was moved from third to cf and victor v to third so flock could play first last year. And never complained, did fantastic,hit lights out and made several fantastic catches in cf last year. Good luck this year, you got a big fan...To NV & BA fans miffed about not being number 1,CO is defending champ from division four.BA is Division five and northview had the heartbreaking loss in semi's to Santa Monica. A team that CO handled at dodger stadium 5-1. Just simple logic....that being said I think that BA will hit garkow in that game,and like I said earlier it will all shake out on the field, like it should.

Please make your own poll and send it in! Good luck to all the teams in this years contests.

PLAY BALL!

amats pitchers are gonna be alot better than people think, they will keep them in games and the offense will take care of the rest.

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This is Aram's new gig!!!

You guys have most of this catching thing right but don't forget probably the best young and proven catcher in the valley in Jake Bailey from Charter Oak. And he's only a junior!

To say that the edge at shortstop is tied in the Amat-Northview comparison is an absolute joke. That kid shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Reyes.

1. Pill
2. Garkow
3. Zuniga
4. Melchor
5. Mier
6. De La Fuente
7. Macias
8. Ponzo
9. Andrade
10. Rutherford

What D1 schools have they committed to?

goviking Murkami and Mcclanahan are the two best catchers in the valley both will play at D-1 schools..they just happin to play for the same team.Dont no the Northview guys but they better be very good to get the check mark in this catagory..

Edge on catching to northview? where are northviews catchers going? Murakami is a division 1 college catching prospect. he isnt known because he is a transfer from the trinity league school Servite High School where he started his sophomore and junior year. Mclanahan is young but will become a top catching prospect. He is one of the best in the valley in his class

Ok well nvfan ur right.. Northview is complete.. But so is san dimas, covina and charter oak... but pitching wise to say all they have is pill your wrong.. Covina has probly the best staff in the valley

Who ever brought up that pill was the whole team? Cody waterbury hit just as many homeruns and rbi's as pill and the rest of the pitching staff supported the team as well.. Covina seniors all have been playin together since they were young so please stop trying to divide them because it won't work and the covina players know every player contributes

Come on guys, let's not get negative...give props to your team and give opinions, but don't blog about individuals in a negative way, they're still kids and most of them are nice kids that need this. The kids are competitive enough without the bloggers trying to lace up their cleats again...We're fans and family of the kids, let the kids decide how things go on the field. I'm a baseball fan and I like Charter Oak, Northview, and a few others, but I still wish Covina and others well.

sgvbaseballfan - To answer your question, check out the post by "nv ball tops all" - ridiculous! You are right about the team and their chemistry together.

Who ever brought up that pill was the whole team? Cody waterbury hit just as many homeruns and rbi's as pill and the rest of the pitching staff supported the team as well.. Covina seniors all have been playin together since they were young so please stop trying to divide them because it won't work and the covina players know every player contributes

Looking forward to the softball season.............. GO LA

Victor Valenzuela can mash over there at Covina. Strong kid will hit for power this year.

Sorry for the double-post - said it didn't go through the first time. The second one is better anyway!

Totally agree with covinafan regarding any team banking their success on one player. A pitcher is only as good as the defense he has behind him. Haven't seen any pitcher who can strike EVERYONE out, or who has never been "rocked". Just love it when jealous people make comments like that! There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. Certain players should "practice that". LOL Believe me, Covina has quite a few very good players this year in addition to Pill. Pre-season rankings mean nothing - GO COLTS!!

Totally agree with covinafan regarding any team banking their success on one player. A pitcher is only as good as the defense he has behind him. Haven't seen any pitcher who can strike EVERYONE out, or who has never been "rocked". Just love it when jealous people make comments like that! LOL Believe me, Covina has quite a few very good players this year in addition to Pill. Pre-season rankings mean nothing - GO COLTS!!

MAKE NO MISTAKE NORTHVIEW IS COMPLETE from top to bottom AND will compete on the mound as well. Covina has Pill and though is he tough, he got ROCKED quite a few times last year so don't bank everything on him. NORTHVIEW has been working hard and this group of men are ready to play some ball. Props to all the valle viste teams - almost all are pretty tough - almost. Good luck Vikings we cannot wait for the fun to begin.

Pill cannot do it all for Covina, that is too much to put on one kid - if he gets hurt or something, it also discredits every other kid on the team. pitching is key - no doubt - but you got to score MORE runs at the end of the day.

To South Hills baseball insiders:

What is the latest on Tyler Buffington, I believe he is a senior this year? and is he going to be the ace of your staff for pitching or is he strictly a a first baseman this year.

well i agree with alot of the stuff here.. hands down the valley vista league will be 1 of the toughest leagues around.. but what a good team all boils down to is pitching.. what team can honestly match the righty pill (who throws in the 90's and was ranked 2nd last year i beleave in the pitching pole asa junior) and justin smith the lefty.. not to mention there closer matt sanchez.. san dimas has ponzo. but only ponzo. he is an elite pitcher but he can only do so much. as far as northview they have new transfers so we will have to see but i beleave theres no way covina can be left out of the top 10 with 7 seniors coming back (including all the power from last years lineup in pill waterbury and wilson) but this year will definitly be 1 of the best in many years

well first of all all teams that win their divison the previous year are automatically ranked one no matter who they lose or who they gain so in all i mean i would say the rankings are pretty good so we shall see. Great season ahead of us

We agree with the Colts and how they will be tough. In fairness, no way CIF was going to put 3 Valle Vista League teams in top 10 to start. Says a lot about the league with NV and San Dimas at the #2 and #3 slots. Go Vikings might not be so accurate on the players starting on the field.
I do like the breakdown...Someone give a Charter Oak vs. Northview breakdown.

Going Deep. Old news already. It will not change and everyone already beat that thought to death last season. Let it go. Nothing can be done about it.

If Amat fails to roll up the D5 again they should dump Baseball in favor of cricket next year.

The real measure of the Lancer season will be how they do in non-league play, (Chatsworth, Loyola, etc).

Anti-amat,

Not trying to start trouble, what a reaction. I think LA should have a good year but I am asking about Amat. And yes Marabel was their best player and no one is counting that out but they have others ready to step up.

Don't forget LA got the Gano's, father and daughter combo. Let's see if that helps or hurts LA's softball program.

Joe Amat,
I hear and understand exactly what you are saying here, what if this same senario played out at football season and Amat played the Bishop Montgomery's and Santa Monica's in football, you know everyone would be crying to move us up to play stronger teams and because we have not done well the last few years in football most come on here and claim Amat should step down. Cannot have it both ways.

Teams enter into the playoffs with their entire league - not as individual schools. So wherever it is most appropriate for the entire league to be placed is where CIF puts them. amat's present league is certainly not one of their choosing. Along with loyola, we were essentially "ousted" from our association with Mater Dei, Santa Margarita and Servite because they had a nice 6-team package with the growth of OLu and JSerra, and they kept St John Bosco because the travel was easier than to amat or loyola.

So I guess the real question is: is it a joke to have Bishop Montgomery, La Salle, St. Monica, St. Paul to be in D5? Because that's the group of schools that CIF has placed us with. Would it also be a joke to have any of those schools have to complete at a higher level in the playoffs?

It is an obsolute joke that Amat is in D5.

Why do people mention Icky. He will get very few, if any, innings at all on the hill or the field. I have seen Amat play and thier pitching is better then what people might think. After Brady, there is no shut down guy but guys who throw strikes and get outs.

Zuniga is a STUD. no question about it. After that is gets real shaky. Chris Torres aka "Icky" was a good travel pitcher with the SGV Hurricanes, but thats about it he is not ready to take the hill and dominate in the HS baseball realm of things. Most think he never will, weight being a factor, runs out of gas very easy. Chris is most likely a 1 or 2 inning pitcher and only really has one pitch which is a fastball. Has trouble landing his breaking pitch for a strike and falls behind hitters constantly. CO and Northview will lite him up like a firecracker. Amat better be deeper than that because Zuniga can only go so often. Tommy Reyes may have to start now and then if Amat is to survive.

Tale of the tape:

Good info on the fantastice Bishop Amat vs. Northview matchup at glendora tourney. I agree with only two exceptions,at first and third I say a tie. RJ is great but mistone is anybodys equal. At first elias is so gifted defensively that I say a draw, taking nothing away from fox. I have to say that I am disapointed that Covina did not make top ten in cif poll. They deserve to be mentioned among the top teams, I am sure you would agree after the three dogfights we got into last year. I love watching you guys play. Murphy is a great coach, good luck this year. That being said dont forget the Colts. While trying to be objective, Baseball Nut proclaims his undying love and devotion to the Colts. Coach Root and Merrill are very underated as coaches and in sharp contrast to alot of coaches care about issues more important than the final score. As far as the B.A vs. Northview game I am not going to make a prediction except that some damn fine baseball will be played. Good luck in the tourney and your tough VVL schedule.

oooooo. CO vs BA!!!
who is guna win that one??
Zuniga gets beat with small ball. Bunts, hit and runs, ect. CO plays smart baseball but BA has amazing talent in thier bats.. it should be a good season opener!!

wat do u guys think??

I like that CIF placed us #2. Charter Oak deserves to be #1 since they are returning champs. I'm looking forward to the Glendora Tournament and opening up against Diamond Ranch. I will also return at night to watch Charter Oak against Bishop Amat. That will be some matchup: Garkow vs. Zuniga. Zuniga grew up playing with most of the Northview players on the Monterey Park Angels for Coach Gilbert Urbina. He is better than OK. He will get the job done as the ace of that staff, but i do agree the rest of that staff is a big question mark. I like our staff of Andrade, Elias, and Macias. I would like to play against the Lancers in the championship of the Glendora tournament but I don't want to get ahead of ourselves just quite yet.

Northview vs Amat Tale of the Tape:

P- Andrade, Elias, Macias
P- Zuniga, Icky, ?
Edge Northview

C- Williams, Juarez
C- Murakami, McClanahan
Edge Northview

1B- Elias
1B- Fox
Edge Amat

2B- Jaramillo
2B- Bergara
Edge Tied

SS- Pedroza
SS- Reyes
Edge Tied

3B- Arnold
3B- Mistone
Edge Northview

OF- Ramirez, Jones, Macias
OF- Herrera, Rodriguez, Seymour
Edge Northview

Coach- Murphy
Coach- Nieto
Edge Northview

softball fan,

it's obvious that your trying to start trouble and I think your a sad person for that. But just in case you didn't know. Amat and Los Altos ARE NOT IN THE SAME DIVISION. That player Amat lost last year happens to be their best player. Los Altos has practicly everyone back. Good Luck, LA!

What about Amat in softball. I see LA but lets remember Amat beat LA last year and the pitchers will be the same. The only quality starter that Amat lost was Marabel, lets see if Walt will start the players that can play the game this year.

AMAT HAS NO PITCHING THIS YEAR. NO MAVERICK NO ESEUBIO THIS YEAR. ZUNIGA IS OK THE REST ARE AVERAGE. AS THE SAYING GOES "PITCHING STOPS GOOD HITTING". HOPE AMAT CAN SCORE LOTS OF RUNS TO SUPPORT THEIR SO, SO PITCHING STAFF. SOME FOOTBALL PLAYERS DID NOT EVEN GO OUT FOR VARSITY BASEBALL AND THEY HAVE LOTS OF GAME TO THEM, SOME OF THEM EVEN PITCH BUT THEY DO NOT LIKE ANDY NIETO, HE TREATED THEM LIKE CRAP WHEN IN THE LOCKER ROOM DURING FOOTBALL SEASON.