Northview knocks out Amat, 4-1

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More than a thousand fans packed Henderson Field on Saturday to watch the Tribune’s top two-ranked baseball teams battle it out for area supremacy in the championship of the Glendora tournament.
What the fans got in return was an unforgettable evening, which included Northview High coach Darren Murphy and Bishop Amat coach Andy Nieto arguing and bumping chests in the sixth inning, with Murphy getting tossed.
Then the Vikings promptly tossed the Lancers aside, winning 4-1 behind the steady pitching of starter Aaron Elias (2-0), who pitched 4 1/3 shutout innings before giving way to senior Marc Andrade to close it out.
Murphy wouldn’t discuss his altercation with Nieto, but he talked about the No. 2 Vikings’ win over the top-ranked Lancers, and what it meant to win a game that had nothing to do with the Valle Vista league or the CIF playoffs, but had everything to do with proving that his team has arrived.
“We built this program to be in games like this,” said Murphy, whose Vikings improved to 4-0. “We’re in a different mindset now. You know you’re not going to win every game, but at least we have the mindset where we expect to win every game.
“We came out a little tight and made some fundamental mistakes. Some of that was the hype of tonight’s game and some of that was playing a team like Bishop Amat and all of that mystique. But we’ll take it. This is the best tournament in the area and our kids dug down and won the championship.”

Glendora tournament championship
Northview 000-110-2 -- 4 runs, 8 hits, 2 errors
Bishop Amat 000-000-1 -- 1 run, 5 hits, 2 errors
2B - Tommy Reyes (BA), Andrew Mistone (BA).
Northview pitching: Aaron Elias, Marc Andrade (5) and Robert Rodriguez
Amat pitching: Brady Zuniga, Stephen Carrillo (6) and Keith Murakami.
Records: Northview 4-0; Bishop Amat 3-1


143 Comments

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ANTI GLOVEDONE OR WHATEVER said:

LISTEN LITTLE ONE, DO YOU REALLY HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN SIT AND COUNT GRAMMATICAL ERRORS OR SPELLING ERRORS - I MEAN REALLY?? DUDE - GET A LIFE, YOU ARE COMICAL AND PRETTY PATHETIC. LETS LEAVE THE ASST. COACHES AND STAT KEEPERS OUT, STICK TO THE IMPORTANT TOPICS PLEASE - YOU ARE WASTING OUR TIME WITH YOUR IDLE CHIT-CHAT. BTW - THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER IS LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD STORIES, CALL AND TELL ABOUT THE ASST. COACH, IT REALLY IS NEWSWORTHY. GET A LIFE.

anti gloveone said:

oh little glovedone....go head count all the grammar mistakes - do YOU think anyone here gives a flip about that, I mean really?? YOU are wasting gray space with your idle chit-chat about asst. coaches. Get real AND GET A LIFE. GET OVER YOUR PAST, IT IS REALLY SAD. OH AND SORRY ABOUT ALL THE CAPS. NOT.. YOUR A FOOL!!! AND MOST OF US OUR LAUGHING AT YOUR SILLINESS. GOOD NITE (error in spelling) LITTLE ONE. KEEP THE BAD GUYS AWAY!!!

TonyAmatFan said:

Glovehand,
Enough, we're multiple games past that now and let's celebrate our big wins since the loss. Let's move on.

Glovehand said:

Misspellings, all caps, doesn't even know my name...all telltale (look it up) characteristics (look it up) of a mouth breather.

My Alvarado stories has relevance (look it up) because he was in the middle of the incident. Very poor attempt at trying to make a point. Oh, and again, I don't give 2 flips about Nieto. I was only discussing my experiences (look it up) with Alvarado and what I know about Northview.

ANTI GLOVED ONE said:

GLOVEONE - GET A CLUE AND QUIT STIRRING THE POT. WORSE STUFF WILL COME OUT ABOUT YOUR LITTLE GUY - NIETO, REALLY I SENSE YOU LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO KNOW WHEN TO LET IT GO.. YOU ARE NOW BRINGING THE ASSISTANT COACHES INTO THE FIRE. HOW ABOUT MARK KEPPOL'S STAT KEEPER - WHAT'S THEIR DARK SECRET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL DAYS OR WHAT ABOUT WALNUT'S PITCHING COACH?? I AM SORRY YOU WERE LAST PICKED FOR DODGEBALL BUT LET IT GO.

winner said:

FACT, EVERYONE HATES A WINNER!!!! KEEP DOING WHAT YOUR DOING ANDY!!! LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WORRY WHEN THEY STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU. GO AMAT!!!!!

Love it said:

Fix A Flat

That was classic!

Fix A Flat said:

dear llanta ponchada (definition: flat tire, aka Nieto's nickname at SC). we all know its you thats pumping your own tire over there under different names. just a few notes: 1)old players of yours are still expecting their checks you promised them after they helped you in your little league amat camps. Like posted by "nietoagain" those fruity shirts of yours aint worth the ink they are printed with. 2) stop trying to force your own kids to cough up over $600 bucks to play on your summer team every year, you trying to make up the money you lost after getting the boot from SC? 3)Your lucky Skip wasnt at the NV game watching your little tantrum or he would of ripped you like he always did. It would of been just like old times...hell he might even have told you to get kicked out or you would be fired like he used to, you remember those pressure situations dont you? you probably still dirty your little undies at night just thinking about those days. All you were there was just a tool in Skips tool shed.

you're pathetic! Got beat by a better team, just wear it like you did that old 1940 button up shirt you had on during your FSN interview! mix in a new wardrobe, or maybe those could be the new shirts you give to your "old" players who help at next years camp...just dont put black letters on them because it seems like amat nation are not big fans of black.

Glovehand said:

Again, you're being just plain lazy trying to label me as pro or anti-Nieto. I just came on and gave my experience with Alvarado and the things Murphy and Northview have pulled in the past. I know thinking isn't your strong suit, so you're trying to make it as simple and as black-and-white as possible, but try to find some depth in your assertions rather than going the easy route.

anti gloveman said:

Hopefully somebody went to bat for the nv guys and said to get that crap off the blog - it seems nieto wouldn't have too many people do the same for him. so if you aren't pro-nieto, that makes you anti-nieto right???? like all the rest of us on here-yes. Surprisingly more are from amat than any other school which REALLY tells of Nieto's character or lack there of....Again - quit stirring up trouble, you stay ON your guy and we'll take care of our guys. Isn't this what started the whole viscious cycle. Like Michael Jackson, you gloved ones never learn.

Glovehand said:

I'm not pro-Nieto. I barely even know the guy. Trying to call everyone here who has an opposing view "Nieto" is flat out lazy. I have background on Alvarado (and knoledge of Murphy) which I thought was relevant to the events of the other night. It was tame compared to all the other stuff Fred is allowing to stay on this blog.

Anyway, it's 3:30...I'm pretty sure Nieto's practicing. But keep calling everyone who doesn't agree with you "Nieto". Sure enhances your argument.

BushLeague said:

Surprising that a CATHOLIC high school did nothing about the "bumping" incident. Would've thought they'd take care of it in-house and suspend Nieto too.

Where's Manzo?? ...oh, err in Nieto's *ss.

Hmm...Maybe Manzo's unaware...let's remind him:

Bishop Amat: 626-962-2495
Manzo's ext: 1-7430.

Don't bother with the VP Gover, she's sitting at her desk with her hands over her ears!

we know its you nieto said:

glove
Maybe fred is tired of you (nieto) posting.

Glovehand said:

What gives with my post being deleted, especially in light of the other garbage that's been allowed to stay up?

Joe Amat said:

Funny vid.

That's not Nieto but looks like a guy who may have eaten Nieto!

man thats sick said:

this just in. video of nieto celebrating amats win tonight. go coach go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVsD3p5cxAU

Mike said:

Nice win Bishop. Good win for the area too when we play the big OC schools or big city schools, it's always nice to represent well in the SGV.

Pinto said:

Sorry Coach Nieto but it's time to "out" you on here. We're tired of your s... We just beat Chatsworth and you're still worried about last weeks game. Say whatever you want, but we true blue Amat fans know what you say to us and others and how those same things end up here. Grow up dude, we don't care that we lost to Norhtview. Good team and we didn't play our best game, so we move on. We wish you would you too.

Hoppy said:

Hi, my name is Andy Nieto, better known as Hoppy, short for "Hop A Long". Did I ever tell you the story about me trying to score with USC cheerleaders when I was the gopher for Coach Gillespie? Well, I'm little, an idiot, not very handsome, and got a bad wheel (leg), but I could pull chicks in right? NO means NO Andyboy. You were known as "Little Stalker Boy" while at 'SC. Leave it alone, don't go back there, bad, very bad times for those around you.

NietoAgain said:

Attn All Bloggers, Andy "Dick" Nieto is back on the blog as "Reality Czech" and "Glovehand" Look at the posts sent (1 min. apart) and focusing on Northview coaches as all his posts do. You just beat Chatsworth and here you come and still have Northview on your mind. Funny that you bring up former players of yours, they laugh at you and your Amat Baseball Camp T-shirts "I can hit anyone" Is that shirt for real and don't tell me you tried to pay one of your camp instructors with that crappy t shirt instead of cash, yep, just confirmed it, Nieto offers his instructors a t shirt. Cheap son of a b.... At least your consistant, your USC camps and now the Amat ones are horrible too. By the way, fun to hear what the local college coaches think of you too. My boy and I laugh our asses off hearing LBSU, SDSU, and the others make fun of you.
Note: Not many Amat posts are about Northview, but one blogger's posts are and bingo-andy nieto was his name-0. Untap your computer, we know it's you everytime. lololol
One more thing, Northview 4
Bishop Amat 1. lololololol

reality czech said:

clearly the Lancers were looking past Northview to their game against LA Times #5 team and National Powerhouse Chatsworth.

Biigboy7 said:

Well, I guess Nieto can talk a little more S**T. They just beat Chatsworth, a perennial powerhouse. The pitching of Zuniga and Mcnitt, not to make excuses but BACK FROM THE FLU, was nice to see. The funny thing is only a few knew that Zuniga and Mcnitt were sick but no excuses, NV won. It did not take long for Amat to come back. Good luck against St Johns.

Ben Dover said:

Neito is lucky it did'nt actually come to a fight.. he is all talk..Pulling sh*t like that I hope he does'nt last the year coaching our team...

andy sign your name!!!

could be a her too said:

joe amat is either nieto manzo or someone in amat offices. someone with too much time on his or her hands.

questionable identity said:

Now this may be a stretch BUT hasn't it been awhile since we have heard from Mr. "JOE AMAT"....he has been very quiet on all the latest shenanigans and usually he is good for half of facts-filled posts. COULD IT BE THAT....JOE AMAT IS INDEED ANDY NIETO???????? he does seem to have a lot of "inside" information. HMMMMMM...things that make us go hmmmmmm.??????

RoyBoy said:

Andy Nieto aka "Mr. Baseball" up at 4 Am writing on the blogs. Coach, you have any other names you use? We got you tapped. Tell everyone about the book you reading now..."Blogging for Idiots"

TTime said:

Ladies and Gentleman- I present to you your very own blogger "Do Your Homework" aka Andy Nieto. Good job coach on the "Coaches for Dummies" quote, it's obviously a book you know well. Tryiing to get 3rd baseman to say he got cussed out is a joke.

Pride to be a Viking said:

you got that right denny crane..panic set in and the little weasel dug dip in his bag of tricks - knew he already had the home plate ump in his pocket...he was even apologizing to the ump FOR BEING SO HARD ON HIM ON A FEW TIGHT CALLS--YES BA PEOPLE you do not know the half of it. ANYWAYS, the right team won for the right reasons, call it karma... call it well-deserved. GREAT JOB VIKINGS

denny crane said:

you got to give nieto credit he had those umpires in his pocket all night.he got all the calls the whole game.then panic set in.the game was fading away. and nieto he couldn;t win.that's when the f--- bombs came flying at coach murphy and his players.

sgvbaseballfan said:

Well lets just change the subject so no more fights erupt.. Covina vs san dimas first round of league pill vs ponzo any predictions??

amat fans have no class said:

sad amat fan

Those grown men making bad comments at the game are typical of the old amat fans on this blog. That game was a carry over from here and I would be willing to bet some of those same guys saying things at the game are the ones here spouting off. no class

me said:

I thought the game was fun and entertaining!!

Sad Amat Fan said:

Mr. Baseball,
I have always been an Amat fan, I was sitting on the Amat side cheering for my team and I have to be honest, First, I was sickened by the actions of both coaches. I think both should have been ejected. There were so many kids on both sides watching such a terrible example of poor sportsmanship. What are we teaching our kids? I was also very disappointed with a few of the Amat fans, they were saying horrible things to and about the other teams players. I was disgusted that grown men would stoop to that level. I don't care if a kid says something first, as grown ups we should all know better and not get pulled into arguing with a kid. Shame on you poor examples of fans! Let's bring a bit more class to the field as well as the bleachers!!

little amat 90 friend said:

Oh Little one - Amat 90, I will try and keep it simple for you....NEXT = go ahead and bring on YOUR next brilliant comment and I promise you I will have no problem letting you know how i (oops caps)feel. However, I really don't feel comfortable going to you in regards to making sense or writing about it BUT hey thanks for the kind gesture. (must be your fine education that has taught you such manners) Your so cute littel one. YOU = MAKING SENSE, NOW that is a good one!@!

Mr. Baseball said:

WOW! It must be a Coach Ernie fan! The coach who stands in the on deck circle talking crap to Amat's third baseman. Obviously, Coach Ernie has no clue or respect of the game. As for Coach Nieto, he has always and will continue to step up to the plate for his players. For those you choose to rag Coach Nieto have no clue of the game either. Take a look at the line up, have a clue, players who left weren't going to start or play. That has nothing to do with Coach Nieto.

Mr. Baseball said:

WOW! It must be a Coach Ernie fan! The coach who stands in the on deck circle talking crap to Amat's third baseman. Obviously, Coach Ernie has no clue or respect of the game. As for Coach Nieto, he has always and will continue to step up to the plate for his players. For those you choose to rag Coach Nieto have no clue of the game either. Take a look at the line up, have a clue, players who left weren't going to start or play. That has nothing to do with Coach Nieto.

Mr. Baseball said:

WOW! It must be a Coach Ernie fan! The coach who stands in the on deck circle talking crap to Amat's third baseman. Obviously, Coach Ernie has no clue or respect of the game. As for Coach Nieto, he has always and will continue to step up to the plate for his players. For those you choose to rag Coach Nieto have no clue of the game either. Take a look at the line up, have a clue, players who left weren't going to start or play. That has nothing to do with Coach Nieto.

little amat 90 friend said:

Little little amat 90, oops Capital A..... Let me keep it simple for you - NEXT = bring on your next brilliant post, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW KNOW HOW I FEEL. Simple enough?? Yes, because you are certainly who I would go to for making sense. That's cute - little one. Again, You soo funny and cute.

little amat 90 friend said:

Little little amat 90, oops Capital A..... Let me keep it simple for you - NEXT = bring on your next brilliant post, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW KNOW HOW I FEEL. Simple enough?? Yes, because you are certainly who I would go to for making sense. That's cute - little one. Again, You soo funny and cute.

Amat90 said:

Next? Next what? If you would like a course in writing to make sense, just ask I will be happy to point you in the right direction. Oh, BTW stop plagiarizing my posts DUMMY!

my little friend amat 90 said:

Oh Little One...Mr. Amat 90
You are COMICAL. NOT YELLING - really I am just too lazy to keep hitting the SHIFT key BUT for you I will give it my best ok sweet little one?? I have lots more to bring, keep putting down your stupid posts and I will let you know how I feel. NEXT

Amat90 said:

That's the best you can do and all in CAPS?????

read chapter 6 said:

I was reading the book baseball for dummies. It says in chapter 6 that the head coach for amat or anyone in the AD office shouldnt come on blogs and try defending his moronic actions. Coach you might want to read that chapter yourself.

another viking fan said:

NV90
I agree both teams need to put this game behind them and move on to the next challenge. Bishop you have a very good team (defending champions). Good luck the rest of the season.

NV90 said:

Everybody relax! I'm a NV'er & I realize it was a good win but it was only the 4th game of the year. Remember, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

BTW, both coaches were classless. They should have both been kicked out & suspended 2 games.

homework for the dummy said:

For the HOMEWORK challenged, I am going to assume YOU do not know the whole story here - and if you do and you are ok with what Nieto has done, then you are as big a loser as he is... Nieto starting his antics BEFORE the game even started and if he was STUPID ENOUGH to stand on the 3rd base side PULLING THE CRAP THAT HE DID -- then game on - he deserved every bit of it and more. So check back in with Baseball for Dummies - only when you have the facts.

NO WORRIES HONEST said:

OH AMAT 90 - LITTLE ONE - I AM SO NOT HOSTILE, WHY WOULD I BE? PERHAPS YOU CAN COME DOWN OF YOUR "I AM SO SUPERIOR" BOX THAT SOME (only some) of you LITTLE AMAT BOYS NEED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BOOST IN LIFE. I GOT THE MESSAGE YOU LITTLE OLE DUMMY!!! BUT THANKS FOR REPEATING IT -- CAUSE AS I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL -- WE ARE EMBRACING OUR WIN, YES WIN, OVER AMAT!!

Spectator at the Sat Showdown said:

To: Nieto and Amat

Goes to show that playing games using the small ball mentality is not always sucessful. When it came time to be in a hitting war with Northview, Nietos so called hitters were baffeled (maybe to used to bunting). Looking at strike three was embarassing for the Lancer hitters. Beside Reyes and Fox, the rest were shut down. Nieto it is time to open up your so called strategy and let the team swing for their runs instead of playing the small ball game. But I guess a small sized coach with a small sized brain will play small ball baseball. Do yourself a favor Amat get rid of this Horse Jockey Madman.

NV RULES said:

Amat contiunes to think that the D5 league earns you respect against better teams. HA HA..you got you're a-- handed to them by a MUCH better team..

Nieto is weak and NOBODY wanted this fool in the college world after MR. G resigned and moved on..

Who's got the bragging rights now?

Answer: NORTHVIEW


DUHH said:

Hey- Nieto....umm..errr....."do Your Homework".....
MAYBEE...."coAch ERNIE" Realized what a mistake it would be to actually try to coach/teach "under" your misDIRECTION .....Just a thought !!

Amat90 said:

No Worries
Wow, such hostility - I think maybe you have a little of the AMAT envy and maybe just maybe you are feeling a little inadequate with the education you received, seeing how you've made that an issue. Here, let me help you NV won the game and that is what you should be focused on (THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL POINT) Dummy.

Do Your Homework said:

Murph and his staff run a bush league operation. I think all of you need to read the "Baseball For Dummies Book." Rule #1, you don't go after an opposing coach when he's in the third base box. That's known as common baseball etiquette. Coach Ernie was the cause of this whole incident. Not only did he verbally attack the Amat 3rd baseman he also try to chip in on Nieto up the 3rd base line. Nieto was sticking up for his guy. He will not back down from anyone. He will tell you where you can go. Murph do your program a favor and get rid of that cigar store indian coach Ernie. Hay Ernie didn't you tell the boys from Amat that you were going to be their coach last year? I guess we see how much you value your word.

amat90 no comprende said:

amat90 - must be what your "amat" diploma taught you that you that my nv diploma didn't teach me. thanks for the tip - note to self, ONLY hit post button one time.. Oh really only ONE TIME. OHHH I hope I can retain all that important info. BTW - I totally "comprehended" your comment and just to let you know (in case you don't comprehend) WE ARE SO PROUD OF OUR BOYS AND HAVE EMBRACED THE VICTORY but your coach's actions have left a little sour taste with us. However, I bet you people are used to Nieto doing that, we have not had that experience with our coach, thankfully.

Amat90 said:

No Worries,

Nice to see that you are unable to comprehend what you read. Just a tip you only have to hit the post button once to post, pay attention now this is how it is done!

denny crane said:

this has to be an embarrsing moment for amat baseball.I think its time for amat to clean house.

SCSucks said:

Nieto is a tool. His antics are going to come around full circle and bite him on the a.. Keep it up Andy "Dick" Nieto. There's a lot of heat coming your way. You thought Sat. was rough, you just wait.

another amat loss said:

good then we can look forward to another amat loss! ha ha

hit this 98 said:

i already did--they have not kicked in yet....lol.. no i am tired of the coach bashing,program bashing,kid bashing,school bashing... this is still "KIDS PLAYING BASEBALL"... bottom line ... and it is a free country if they dont like any part of there schools program leave...period...leave.... what a joke most of this is.. people that said they heard all these different things each coach said ---this and that... are all full of sh1t... and have nothing better to do but to cause problems in even there own programs....leave weak sucks... walk away by friday end of the school day... ooooo you won't .. so support your coaches and programs they are supporting your kids,their school , and more importantly what they believe is right....i remind you it is a free country ...but at least have balls enough to support and live or die by your program and coaches... or leave... easy as that...

Do Your homework said:

Bishop Amat has bigger things to worry about other than Northview. They play perennial powerhouse Chatsworth on Wednesday. They also just found out that they open up the National Classic tournamnent against the number #2 ranked team in the nation, St. John's College out of Washington D.C. St. John's had 9 players sign to play Division 1 college baseball during the early signing period.
Hugh Adams - Florida Atlantic University
Cory Beahm - University of Hartford
Jeff Flax - LaSalle University
LJ Hoes - University of North Carolina
Michael Loeb - Davidson College
Matt Mack - Radford University
Craig Miller - LaSalle University
Nick Routt - Mississippi State University
Scott Silverstein - University of Virginia

So to all you Nieto bashers I think he is doing a damn good job of preparing his players for the next level. He is not afraid to schedule the best teams or enter the best tournaments. The Amat train is leaving so either "Get On or Get Off!"

take your meds said:

hit go take your medications and relax

hit this 98 said:

i would like to address a few issues here... 1st to the amat parent's that are bashing nieto. he wants every kid on this team to get a college scholarship. to do so he must stick with a few good players in a slump (boomer,mistone) and fox (not in a slump). these guys are pushing hard and not producing but are seniors and have not been picked up by any college yet. as a coach the true measure of success comes when your players are picked up by college programs and excel. he does trully care about the kids. despite what the parent's are saying--its a free f*%$ing country if you don't like it quit now...now...now... ooooo but you won't you only put faceless blogs and talk sh$t here , but you refuse to leave. the bottom line is he making these kids better ball players, and he is promising if the commit and give them 100% he will help them get a school to pick them up...is that so wrong ????? wow --- i have never seen this type of backstabbing before ---again please if your feeling are such and you have a kid on this team ---quit now.......... if not shut-up and support the amat program....

Bigtime said:

Holy smokes! There are more than two team in the SGV. I believe Damien has just taken a giant step towards being one of the best in the SGV by beating a pretty good Covina team. Coach V is building a strong program. The JV program is above avg and the frosh team is loaded with talent. The future is bright.

GHS Fan said:

It funny how all you people in the SGV, as soon as you hear Amat you automatically think the game is going to be like a super bowl or the world series. Amat is a school which is still living off its reputation from the 70's and 80's when they were the Power House of the SGV. News flash we are in the 2000's the 70's and 80's are long gone.

Ted said:

Ok, I've read a coach be called "Fat Guy" two or three times and it's still on the board. Fred, thought we were trying to keep it clean? Is Aram still around because that's the stuff he left on the board.

I was there said:

From the sidelines,
I was in the NV bleachers when that singing broke out. It wasn't coming from the parents and real fans. It an out of control adult egging a group of girls to sing. I've been to games with our rivals that some of this stuff goes on back and forth but that was not the case Saturday. That not a class move and was not coming from the real NV fans in the bleachers.

Mark L. said:

Baseball top 10

1-Northview
2-Damien
3-Amat
4-Covina
5-So Hills
6-Glendora
7-Charter Oak
8-San Dimas
9-Nogales
10-Walnut

From the sidelines said:

For your info, the umpire behind the plate was only doing his 3rd Varsity baseball game, ever. Blame it on the assigners who gave a rookie this game. Not one of you would you like to be put into his shoes in a game of this magnitude. He did a good job under the circumstances. His biggest mistake was not throwing out both managers. He became aware of the bumping & F-bombs after things had already started and only saw Murphy doing his thing. Sorry, Northview but your fans were not quiet about the calls or Murphy getting tossed.
Matter of fact it was just the opposite.
The Northview players can be proud of what they have accomplished, it was a good victory for your school. It's the Northview fans that have to learn how to win or lose with some class. Singing Na Na Na Na hey, hey, hey goodbye ... I heard that right after the game from the Northview side, trying to rub it in a little deeper. You earn respect by how you handle yourself/team on and off the field. You have a good team Northview, but you need to clean up your act some to get the full respect that you want.

baseballfan said:

Well fact of matter, my friends and I were standing right next to the NV dugout when the 3b from BA was talking crap to NV pitcher, then "fatboy" was telling the pitcher and catcher to relax and just play ball when Nieto walked 3/4 down the line to say something to Ernie...Well Murph backed up his coach and the Nieto started throwing the F-bomb and bumping into Murph...and then Murphed got tossed.

fact of the matter said:

Congrats to northview for the win over bishop Saturday. Fact of the matter in regards to the argument between coaches and who drop the first F Bomb. Well you can thank the fat batboy Ernie for northview. You know the guy with the burgers and snickers coming out of his back pocket. He was the one who was saying f u the the amat third baseman. Nieto was defending his player and Murphy walk up in the middle. Murphy look like he defending his guy not knowing what he had said, causing an embarrassing situation for Murphy and the northview program. Murphy keep a burger in the Fat Bat boys mouth so he does not put you in that situation again.

fact of the matter said:

Congrats to northview for the win over bishop Saturday. Fact of the matter in regards to the argument between coaches and who drop the first F Bomb. Well you can thank the fat batboy Ernie for northview. You know the guy with the burgers and snickers coming out of his back pocket. He was the one who was saying f u the the amat third baseman. Nieto was defending his player and Murphy walk up in the middle. Murphy look like he defending his guy not knowing what he had said, causing an embarrassing situation for Murphy and the northview program. Murphy keep a burger in the Fat Bat boys mouth so he does not put in that situation again.

DUH GEORGE said:

GEE CURIOUS ONE, IT WOULD BE PRETTY STUPID TO NAME NAMES,NOR IS IT MY PLACE. but IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROGRAM THEN YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO 'THEY' ARE - RIGHT? AND YOU ALREADY THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY PROBLEMS WITH NIETO - RIGHT? MAN, IT IS A SAD DAY WHEN AMAT IS MORE KNOWN FOR THEIR POOR CHOICES IN COACHES THAN ALL THE FINE ATHLETES COMING AND GOING.
SIGNED,
SO NOT NIETO'S MOTHER

curios george said:

Who are the kids who have transfered out & who are the kids who are still at Amat who are no longer playing ball because of Nieto ????

circus midget said:

do your homework=manzo or a family member of the circus midget nieto

Players union anti-Nieto said:

hmmmmmmmmmm,
No,wrong, players are leaving Amat and Players who are still at Amat and are not playing and could just walk on and play better than half that bench EXIST, PLEASE!. Trust me there is talent at Amat that play the game of baseball but have been around to see this Nieto punk a-- in action and they want no part of him. If Kendrena is still there these kids would be playing baseball. You go to that football roster and these guys are athletes that can play baseball with the best of them. They choose not to why? because Andy Nieto is a A-hole, not because they got cut. Heck Michael Jordan got cut too. It has allot to do with Nieto and those who kiss his A--. Some of these boys have lots of pride and will not play for such a a--wipe. Amats Catcher I do agree has no stick and has trouble holding onto the ball. He threw out 1 runner but he comes up in critical situations and chokes. He looks to be the weak link of the team. Thet better get a catcher or games are going to be lost by this weakness. The catcher should be a power hitter on a team and I do not see that at all. Bryan Seymore did not come thru and he had 2 opportunities to do so. Was Northviews pitching that overpowering? It looked good maybe so. Maybe Amat is where they belong D5.

Emotions said:

BASEBALL IS A GAME OF CONTROLLED EMOTIONS. THERE IS A FINE LINE BETWEEN AGGRESIVENESS AND STUPIDITY. THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE!!!

Do Your Homework said:

All of you who are calling for the removal of your CIF champion coach should do your homework before passing judgement. It was Nieto who was being hounded by the Northview staff the entire game. It is totally unacceptable for any coach to cuss out a player from an opposing team yet that is what happened to the Amat 3rd baseman. I won't even get into the illegal player Northview has on its roster. That's for a different thread. I recall last season there were many disgruntled Amat fans in the early part of the season despite their 9-0 start. Coach Nieto has been at the next level and knows what it takes for his players to reach that level. Coach Nieto keep up the great job you and your staff are doing. Remember basball is not a popularity contest.

hmmmmm said:

From what I saw there sat from the Northview side. They quietly say there no saying a word. No yelling at the umpires, the opposing coach or players. Before passing judgement on other take a look at yourselves. I just happen to watching near the Northview dugout as I was rooting for them. they dugout was chirping from the beginning of the game.

You Amat people on this board are complaining because your kids either got cut or don't play. It looked like a big roster on the varsity from what I see in the dugout and I hear they have JV and two freshman teams. Geez, your kid must be real bad if they did not make any team. Don't say they did not want to play for the coach. IT is a cop out. I heard one sophomore transfered out because he didn't make varsity 1B. I do believe the had a returning ALL CIF guy coming back. Why are the players leaving Amat. Because they can't get on the field.

no worries amat90 said:

hey amat 90, i have been surprised how many amat people have commented and negatively at that about nieto -- not sure too many nv people really care actually -- other than it has screwed up murphy for another game - but Nieto is your problem not ours.....so nice that your "worried" about him though, you are the minority for sure

no worries amat90 said:

hey amat 90, i have been surprised how many amat people have commented and negatively at that about nieto -- not sure too many nv people really care actually -- other than it has screwed up murphy for another game - but Nieto is your problem not ours.....so nice that your "worried" about him though, you are the minority for sure

Amat90 said:

Why is so many here so worried about a coach that is not a part of their school? Now, don't get me wrong I do not condone Nieto's actions, but this is not the first time he's had problems with the opposing teams coaches and/or fans. If I'm a part of the NV staff, team, or fans I would only concern myself with the fact that NV won the game in spite of Nietos actions which were obviously brought on by desperation & panic, so be proud of this team and the win. As for me I'm both disappointed that Amat lost, but as I have said before I know some of the boys for NV and am very proud of them. This NV team is a VERY GOOD TEAM!
Congrats to NV and continued success!

manzo will do nothing said:

does anyone think Manzo will do anything? He will do what he usually does, NOTHING. He is good at sitting on his hands.

tru dat said:

Hey life unfair - no kidding on the close calls, every close was in amat's favor and a few on the bases that you didn't mention. This is what a snake that nieto is, i talked to a few of the nv guys and they were talking about how much nieto was talking to the ump, massasing their b***'s, even saying sorry about him (nieto) getting on their case about a call. I am convinced by the 6th inning, as he was starting to unravel and panic, he set the coaches at nv up, figuring he had the umps in his pocket anyway. slithering snake is what he is! Amat would look rally bad to NOT take action - but hey maybe that like that in their head coaches. Can't tell anymore

LIFE UNFAIR said:

You know what really sucks about all this? Nieto suffers no consequences for his actions and now Murphy is out the next game as well. Again how many of "men" out there would be able to flat-out walk away from that situation? Another cusses you out and throws his body into yours? Really ask yourself -- could you walk away and do nothing? AND Murphy is the one to get tossed? Those umpires were Pro-Amat the whole game, luckily the game was't won or lost on their calls - but trust me, every close pitch - Amat got the strike.

PREPFAN08 said:

I believe that coaches need to show respect and its in the CIF that they need to act respectful. What Bishop Amat's baseball coach did was wrong. He should recieve at least a 2-game supension like others have stated. Also it could be seen as a touchy situation but his actions on Saturday truly represent actions that would be approved by a private catholic school? Just take a look at Amat's motto and philosphy for it's students. People do make mistakes and can learn from them but a supension is necessary.

beck beer said:

Beck beer for head coach. ha ha

Lancer Parent said:

Great game to watch and Northview you won and are the Champs fair and square, outstanding team, very well coached. Amat we played our hearts out, came up empty, did not hit in clutch situations, the result is a loss, no big deal move forward and get ready for the next game. Andy Nieto, dude I try to see the good in your coaching but the game does not revolve around your antics, are you that attention starved? F-BOMBS at the opposing coach>? Amat is my team in all sports and I am a loyal backer of ours sports program but to see a display of unsportsmanship coming from one of our coaches is just downright wrong and should have some reprecussions from our AD and Principal Hemmingway. There are so many kids that complain about Nieto and his bullying tactics during school to kids on campus. He has to have a short man syndrome going somewhere. Kids who should be playing for Amat right now and that are more talented then some of the kids on the bench do not and will not play for this maniac Nieto. Coach hope you learned from your mistake Sat. that you have shamed our school like no other coach I have seen at Amat. You deserve a 2 game suspension from our AD for that display of a A-hole Sat. You just may be a good baseball coach but that gives you no right to take your personal agenda to field to make a name for yourself. Remember the School is bigger than its employee. I would have fired you after watching that Sat., and it has nothing to do with your coaching ability. It is called attitude. Lastly get those crappy old english style Amat black letters off that jersey and go back and get the real jerseys out of the equipment room.

I agree!!!! said:

Beck for head coach!

Wasn't he an AMAT Alumni as well. He will take us further as a team and teach our boys to respect the game and other people.
The wins will come.... When you are selecting a travel team you can pick and choose coaches and not have your kid play for the "CRAZY, ANGRY, Win at ALL Cost Coach" but not in High school. Sucks we have to pay for this.

Beck for Head Coach said:

Beck for Head Coach!!!!!!!
That is what should be chanted at every game until Manzo wakes up and if he doesn't than maybe he should go too.
I am an AMAT parent and am not upset with losing. Its part of playing the game. AMAT parents and fans are not saying we want him fired because we lost. We don't appreciate how he treats the kids, parents, umpires, opposing coaches etc.... he is a HORRIBLE human being!!!!!!!!!
AMAT has incredible History and Tradition which takes more than a coach that got fired to be successful. Coach Beck would make an excellent head coach becuse he is respected by the kids and can handle himself as a coach should.
I know many parents read this blog so if you agree please post " Beck for Head Coach " so when Manzo reads the blog ( As I'm sure he does daily ) he can see that there are more parents asking for a replacement now rather than later.

another viking fan said:

Amat73
you and Joe missed a great game. I know when your team loses it's a little different experience, but the game lived up to the hype. Both teams got into trouble and got out with good pitching and defense. So many tense situations but all the players were up for it (no chokes). It was an unforgettable game.

AMAT 73 said:

To the Northview baseball team congratulations on a great win and you deserve to be the tournament champions and #1 in the SGV. To bad such a great match up had all the drama created by what I gather was our coach. I wasn't at the game so I can only go by what I read here and in the paper. As far as nvfan the person is just an idiot that must have failed the entrance exam or his high school team was beaten badly by an AMAT team in the past because the guy is obessed with hate for AMAT or anything associated with AMAT. If the action at the game almost brought you to orgasmic heights you truely are sick.

Frank Corona said:

Trojan Man...this one's for you. God bless you in your time of sorrow.

Last friday I was honored to be at the viewing for Rosemead's Coach Louie Madrigal. I keep my promise and left flowers on behalf of the Damien Wrestling Team and my family. I thought about leaving early, and just wanted to make sure the flowers arrived, seeing as I ordered them down the street at 3pm. I'm glad I stayed.

Then they came ....young and not so young men in grey Lerttermen jackets. One after another....current and past Rosemead athletes...then the parents both young and old and then more and more and more and more...until another two rooms were opened with monitors to both see and hear the service. It was standing room only! I never seen so many patches on so many lettermen jackets as I saw that night. Patches over patches. They wore them with pride. They cried openly. They hugged openly. They shared openly. They were as awesome a display of family and brotherhood as I have never witnessed. People of all ages shared from the heart...Coach this...Louie that...all ended with a common theme .."He was an exceptional man with extraordinary reach...and I loved him and will miss him dearly. Rosemead has lost a giant".

From everything I heard that night Coach Madrigal was a giant of a man, a leader of boys becoming men, an extremely diligent planner and to so many in the Rosemead community a surrogate father figure and a friend way past their high school days.

At most viewing you hear maybe 4/5 people speak but that night I heard from former wrestlers. former football players, former co workers, mothers, and community leaders speak about a man that changed lives and became a fixture by virtue of his generosity and dedication. He was without a doubt a great man to many many people.

The voices could have gone on all night, one story more compelling than the next. Without exaggeration...it could have gone on all night. And it was both and honor and a priviledge to hear those stories. I will not forget them.

I wonder how many parents think about the impact coaches have on their sons and daughters. Both good and bad.

It was the second such ceremony I've attended where the coach was truely a giant legend both in terms of athletic excellence and individual one on one mentoring. Salesian's Brother Tom Keegan was our Giant Legend. He made Champions out of "outsiders" and impacted the lives of many by his unselfish contributions and caring for others. He too was a taskmaster and a planner. He taught by example and stayed humble while the athletes became the focus and not the other way around. His service was held in an overflowing gymnasium with not a dry eye in the house...just like Friday night. And ironically BOTH drove the school bus. These men do it all!

Tonight I thanked Damien's Wrestling Coach Lucero for being that "coach" for my son. I told him what transpired at the ceremony and if Rosemead HS called to thank him for the flowers he'd know what they were talking about. I left him with this message, one I think it may serve others as well and one I would like to share tonight.

"I want to thank you Coach for everything you've done for my son. How you've helped him grow and develop into the man he will become. You mean so much to my son and to our family. We could never repay you but I want you to know..how much I respect you and admire you and your efforts with the kids and my son in particular." and then I told him something that brought a sobering tear to his eye and mine...."I just wanted to tell you this in person...so you know...what you mean to us and how MUCH you've helped my son grow.... And I don't want to say it to a box when you're gone. I wanted to tell you face to face so you would know."

He lettered my son tonight even though he wasn't able to compete anymore because of his neck injury and told those in attendance..." He came to every practice and did the workouts, helped the younger kids and put in the time. The doctors found he was missing a vertabrae in his neck...He could have been a CIF Champion." my wife cried. I cried Friday. Then he told my son later on, "I want to see you in your Lettermen jacket Zach." Man never stops teaching.

When I told my son about the service and the loyalty and love the Rosemead wrestlers had for their coach he told me something I think everyone should hear..."Coach Lucero does the same thing! He takes students who other coaches don't believe in, students who because of their size or speed aren't given a chance to compete, kids who are always told they aren't wanted or good enough and gives them an opportunity to test themselves and compete. He challenges us to push ourselves beyond our limits. Why wouldn't they have that unwavering loyalty. They love their coach...like I love mine." And then he cried knowing what Coach Lucero means to him as well. Honor, Commitment, Dedication, Hard Work and TEAM...always the TEAM.

Not every Coach merits that kind of loyalty and love but clearly some do. And they should be rcognized and acknowledged for the role they play in our children's lives. Before they are gone. This year Coach Lucero will be sending one senior to West Point and another for the second year in a row to Notre Dame on academic scholarship.

Long Live Sparta!

R.I.P. Coach Madrigal.
Fear the 'Mead!

Heaven just got another great man...I bet he's talking to Bro. Tom... and swapping stories about "Their boys." And they both couldn't be happier.

R.I.P.

NVfan said:

Dear Amat Parents
I think i was the first one to critisize Nieto over this game and you guys are coming like worms out of a can. Just what i tought, a bunch of backstabbers, who will jump on the bandwagon on the next win.
Yes, yes i know your kids belong in the varsity team if it wasn't for mini-me evil Nieto. Remember your kids who got cut or are playing JV were allstars at little league and you spent plenty of money on travel thereofore they belong in Varsity.
Well Dear worms, oh sorry i meant parents, you can always go to Covina and help Idol and the chimp munks. I hear the coach there is really nice, winning not a requirement just a feel good atmophere.
Sicerely
Your Dear Friend

mt fan said:

WELL PUT MT. NO NEED BUT I AM LOVING THE QUIETNESS OF THE AMAT PEEPS. WHERE ARE THEY NOW, SHOULD BE THE NEW HEADLINE. AMUSING HOW NOBODY IS HERE TO DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF NIETO. SHOCKER - I THINK NOT EVEN HIS OWN SCHOOL AND AMAT FOLLOWERS KNOW THE TRUTH. WHINY LITTLE SNAKE IS WHAT HE IS....

MT said:

Northview Supporters, no need to defend yourselves, players, or coaches. We don't need to. Amat players-good game last night. The problem with last night's game is plain and simple...NIETO. He initiated the whole thing and bumped Murphy and said F U, I heard it right from the bleacher side of the Northview dugout. To say Northview coach talked to or cussed at the B.Amat 3B man is such a reach and desperation on someone's behalf to detract the blame from where it should be, it's almost comical. Like I said, Northview Followers, let's not defend ourselves here. We don't have to and neither do our players or coaches. We won't be pushed around or disrespected by Wannabee Nieto. As Freddie Mercury sings, "We are the champions, we'll keep on fighting til the end". Northview 4 Amat 1. Northview is Tournament Champions!!!

just a parent said:

I am pretty hesitant to get involved in any of this blog stuff and my boy would probably be pretty ticked, but having said that I have a kid at Amat and has been in the problem for a few years. The parents at Amat are usually a pretty close-knit bunch and I am clear in saying - so many of us parents are absolutely disgusted with Nieto. And trust me - he would take it out on my kid. He is an ego-maniac. I pray everyday he finds something better to do with his time. He is a horrible coach with terrible anger issues. BUT please these are pretty good kids and don't judge them the same as the coach. Thanks for your time.

viking pride said:

Believe me I am totally upfront about being a Northview fan and maybe the Amat players being on the 1st. base side REALLY have no clue what crap Nieto started over there... AND i know for a fact Murphy DID not and WOULD NOT throw the "f" bomb at a player - No how no way!!! Once again you Amat people are misinformed. NO WAY most of you men out there could take another man saying F YOU and bumping you - I cannot believe Murphy did not throw a punch (and I am sure regret it later) You cannot pull that and Nieto should be ashamed and consider himself lucky. Northview fans know it and saw it and went after Nieto while coaching 3rd base. He absolutely deserved all the abuse that went his way. Loser of a coach, in every aspect of the word.

neitherfan said:

The bottom line is that all you amat supporters will come up with every single excuse for your sorry asses loses the game but the bottom line is that North View is the better ball club. Get over it BA... NV won that's the bottom line. All you old timers shut the freak up and let it go. NV won..........

Missed A Great Game said:

Too much attention is being given to the unnecessary antics of both coaches. What about the great pitching on both sides. There were 5 runs scored yesterday and only one of them was earned. Great job by Elias, Andrade, Zuniga, and Mcnitt. I would take any four of those pitchers. Great job players. Boo coaches.

whattagame said:

I heard Northview's coach Ernie was chirping the whole game and dropped the F-Bomb on the Amat 3rd baseman. He was going to coach at Amat last year. Murph just came to his defense when Nieto confronted him on it. Wasn't Ernie the one who got Macias to transfer?

what happened? said:

Impartial bystander,

"Writers blast Nieto for his behavior, yet Murphy droped the "F" towards the Bishop 3rd baseman. I heard it personally."

I was close but a little to far to hear what was being said. I don't understand what your saying because Amat was batting with a runner on second. How could Murphy throw the F bomb at the Amat third baseman?

Impartial bystander said:

This blog is a good example of what is wrong in youth sports. Anger, prejudice, whatever it takes to win attitude. "If your not cheating, your not trying". The articles demonstrate their dislike and anger towards coaches, parents, players, athletic directors, umpires. Where is the dialog about the game itself and the focus on the best game there is. Writers blast Nieto for his behavior, yet Murphy droped the "F" towards the Bishop 3rd baseman. I heard it personally. The Bishop player trying to take out the first baseman is a part of old-school baseball, but is not acceptable for high school sports, nor is the hitting of the Bishop Amat hitter in the head in the next inning. Let's get off the coaches, ump, players, parents and return the focus to the greatest game ever...

The largest problem is obvious, the over emphasis on win at any cost. High school coaches and programs are under tremendous pressure to win (as evidenced in this blog). Why do you think the coaches act the way they do. They have a job on the line like the rest of us, and they have families to feed and care for too. Bottom line, what is it that we want to teach our kids. . . you decide.

Impartial bystander said:

This blog is a good example of what is wrong in youth sports. Anger, prejudice, whatever it takes to win attitude. "If your not cheating, your not trying". The articles demonstrate their dislike and anger towards coaches, parents, players, athletic directors, umpires. Where is the dialog about the game itself and the focus on the best game there is. Writers blast Nieto for his behavior, yet Murphy droped the "F" towards the Bishop 3rd baseman. I heard it personally. The Bishop player trying to take out the first baseman is a part of old-school baseball, but is not acceptable for high school sports, nor is the hitting of the Bishop Amat hitter in the head in the next inning. Let's get off the coaches, ump, players, parents and return the focus to the greatest game ever...

The largest problem is obvious, the over emphasis on win at any cost. High school coaches and programs are under tremendous pressure to win (as evidenced in this blog). Why do you think the coaches act the way they do. They have a job on the line like the rest of us, and they have families to feed and care for too. Bottom line, what is it that we want to teach our kids. . . you decide.

???????????????? said:

Speaking of coaches how can covina not put pill in to shut down the game yesterday??? Not putting down damian they played a very good game but covina had it in hand and let it slip away.. Horrible

Posted by: untitled | March 9, 2008 6:01 PM


What??? i was at the game and Covina didnt necessarily give the game away nor did they EARN their 4 runs. it was suprising that pill didnt pitch but Damien looked good. you just got to tip your hat to them. Covina is good but we just didnt have the pitching to close it out.

jcaz said:

Im not suprised at all the trash talk here. It was bound to happen regardless of who had won the game.

By looking at the box score that Fred posted here, it seems to me that Amat didn't get on the score board until late in the game. Seems to me that ya got to give credit where credit is due. NV played a better baseball game than Amat did plain and simple.

That being said, I am certian that Amat will be fine and that this game will be a good learing experience for them going into the next tournament down in the OC.

BTW, I am very suprised at how much chatter there is on this blogg concerning a sport outside of Football.

Amat usually dominates the conversation on the SGV bloggs and when they do good in other sports then you get to see a lot of activity from people who like to post.

You know, it would be nice, if only for the interest that a game like this produces, if these two teams played again.
I know that they are not on each others schedual but I wonder if an exibition could be squeezed in just to generate the interest level. I realize Of course, that there would be so much resistance from both sides. But man it would be fun, wouldn't it ?

CLEAN HOUSE NOW!! said:

what a sad situation at Amat. The amat fans come on here talking about how great things are at amat only to have an ugly situation like this. The football program is down and now the baseball program has people crying for the head of Nieto. Amat needs to clean house now!

untitled said:

Speaking of coaches how can covina not put pill in to shut down the game yesterday??? Not putting down damian they played a very good game but covina had it in hand and let it slip away.. Horrible

AmatFaithful said:

Amat still rules,
You would take Amat in a series? Yeah, so would I, a series about a catholic school with a coach who uses the F Word towards opposing coaches and has players that don't like him. I'm ok with some foul language, esp. in a tight game, but Nieto was out of line last night and I had a clear view of what was going on from the left field side. Still have love for the Amat kids, but not going to defend the idiot.

Let'EmPlay said:

Biggest play of the game, I don't even recall what inning but Bishop had runners in scoring position and the score was still close. High hopper over Arnold's head at 3B. He's deep at third and leaps up to stab the ball. Plenty of time to throw but he shorthops it to the backhand side of the firstbaseman. Luckily Juarez snagged it for the putout. After that the momentum and adrenalin was all behind the Northview ace, Aaron Elias. In an earlier inning his rightfielder, Reuben Ramirez made a spectacular catch crashing in the fence deep in right field foul territory. You give any strong pitcher a couple outs like that early in the game and he can lay a few fastballs down the pipe now and again to keep the meat of the lineup honest. Northview pitching was deciding factor.

The Truth said:

Like they say at the movie theatre before the movie starts..."Silence is Golden" This is what I heard or witnessed from the Amat side at the end of the game. Umpire was on Nieto's nuts all game. Amat got every 3rd strike call and Murphy only being tossed was flat out wrong. A better coach and better program was evident last night.

Nieto Please Go said:

Not much being said about the cheap shot elbow thrown in the 7th by the Amat player running down the line on Northview 1st Baseman, which led to more bs initiated by Nieto.
Nieto representing a catholic school using the language that everyone near Northview dugout heard was embarrassing. Is that part of the curriculum at Amat? I'm not one that is shocked by cussing on the field, but addressing opposing coaches with F words is out of line. The peanut gallery of Northview fans ripping Nieto was entertaining and deserving. Someone also wrote that here go the Amont Honks ripping Nieto after only one loss, do you know how to read, we don't like him period and want him gone. How many more players have to quit or transfer for us to learn that's he's a cancer to our program.

Let'EmPlay said:

That umpire behind the plate was really poor. He was calling pitches 8-10 inches off the ground strikes all night for both teams. Amat's pitcher did a better job hitting that guys skewed zone on that low end but he was generally consistent with that ultra-low call. It wasn't that he was leaning Bishop or Northview. I don't think the guy could see that low pitch and was just giving the call to the pitcher every time. Why that sucks is because in critical game breaking situations these kids know the strike zone and we saw some really exciting rally's get ended when this stiff punched out the hitter for strike three on pitches that Vlade Guerrero wouldn't swing at.

Amatstillrules said:

Bishop Amat will be just fine. NV won the game. Period. I will still take Amat in a series.

Amat Who? said:

Nieto acted just like his player did...

A spoiled kid who thought he pounded the ball that was missed played and then starts in on the pitcher?

He's the one that should have been benched for displaying and acting like a brat... No class from the coach or the player...

WEAK WEAK WEAK...

HA HA said:

Nieto is lucky to be a coach at Amat.

He did NADA at USC and couldn't get a job in any college arena! Go Figure!

love those amat honks said:

gotta love the amat donks. they lose one game and they are calling for the coaches head. pure comedy!

Run Forrest Run said:

Freddy. Volunteers would be great. How about those "coorespondents" that were used during football? Heck, if I could write worth a damn I'd do. Good experience for Journalism student.

Of course I had to suffer through all that wrestling coverage for the last month so I guess I'm asking too much for some mention on an event with 30 schools and 1200 students...most from the SGV.

PRDad said:

Will someone tell me what Nieto has done besides be Gillespie's Caddy? He won a Div. 5 Championship with Kendrena's kids. The sad thing with Kendrena leaving was that this would've never happened last night with the Northview coach if Coach K was there. This is a joke. He's not even in the same league as the other better coaches in the valley. He strolls into high school scene and in one year, he thinks he's the god of high school coaches. Once he saw the game slipping away, he started his antics. Sure was some interesting conversations going on with Amat parents in the parking lot about how much they don't like their own coach. Congrats to Northview and all their fans. That's a heckuva team they got. We got the wrong coach on our side. I'd take a lot of others over this joker.

Proud Mom said:

San Gabriel Valley Parent,
As a parent of a son who will be graduating in June, I had a company visit my home and meet with my son and I to get him "exposure" to get into a good school where he would be able to play baseball. He was at my home for over two hours going on and showing us how he would market my son. When the meeting was over he began to talk about the cost. This ran over $1200. I thanked him for his time but said no, because as a single parent I have very limited means. I ended up finding a website called berecruited.com and it cost I believe $25.00 to sign up so we did at the end of my sons Junior year. My son was contacted by about 4 schools. They were from division 1,2,3 and from various states. My son took it upon himself to fill out recruiting forms at all of the colleges he was considering and also sent out raw highlight film and is going to be playing in college. His good grades have given him many great opportunities to go to the schools of his choice. I suggest if to start early if your child wants to play sports beyond high school, waiting until the end of my son's jr year was a little late, but we were still lucky. I hope this info can help someone out.

Nieto needs to GO! said:

Nieto or Manzo,
I know you read this that's why i'm posting on here. Stand up for yourself and respond to why you are such an ASS? Why is it All about you? Why do you have to control everything and micro manage the entire squads every step. Our boys have way to much talent to have you acting the way you do. You have done nothing but embarass the school and you've had more players quit this team and either transfer or just stop playing ball all together. THAT'S SAD!!!
Manzo, it's going to be hard to recruit future talent as long as Nieto is here. Send Nieto to anger management cause he has some major issues. This isn't the first time and won't be the last. Are you waiting for him to hit a player or hit another coach before you can him? Do your job and look for a replacement cause the talk around town is don't send your kid to AMAT until Nieto is gone.
Let's ALL remember that he is winning with the team that Coach K and Roddy put together. AMAT Fans let's all hang in there and keep a new coach in our prayers.

be leery of recruiting services said:

It's a good idea to be leery of recruiting services. Many are out just to make sales. I interviewed with one years ago for a career and found that most just want to make sales.


My suggestion is put together a highlight tape of your kid and select the schools he wants to attend and send out the dvd to those schools. Pick a wide range of schools not just two or three. Make sure you target division two and three schools as those are good sources and also offer scholarships.You be able to research schools on the internet or at a local library.


Some times a school who you send a dvd to and can't use you can sometimes refer to another coach or school. This is all about networking and call backs. Also after you send the dvds out be sure to follow up with phone calls. good luck

San Gabriel Valley Parent said:

FredJ,

Do you arbitrarily decide to respond and answer to questions you consider worthy or not because for over a week now I have just simply tried to get you to communicate back to me for my son and for young men in our Valley on every team regarding recruiting.

Here was my second post from Monday Morning Football and instead of being redundant I will just copy and paste my comments again..!

FredJ,

At work and keep checking back on the blog for the information I asked you to answer for me actually for my son and unfortunately still no response. I anticipate you are very busy this time of year but hopefully in the near future you can tell me who “the scouting service” is and what the word “they” refers to. I can then contact "them" regarding my son and afterwards "they" can hopefully evaluate his tape to determine his potential and maybe help us in our recruiting process. I just want what's right and have "them" consider not just my son but hopefully others will follow my lead and "they" can get more business and we as parents can get someone professionally to give us the guidance, direction, and connections to colleges and universities throughout the country not just at Division I but II and III too. I am realistic and if my son is not good enough to play Division I football but he does have excellent grades and he will be able to further his education and hopefully continue his football career someplace. Ahead of time thanks..!

Posted by: San Gabriel Valley Parent | March 6, 2008 8:47 AM

NVfan said:

Joe (Unemployed) Amat stop pretending you have any business, you just could't afford the ticket to get in and besides you wife would have not let you come in.
Bottom line is you have to swing the ball and force the defense to make the plays, NV was aggressive while Amat player were looking at strikes go by then whine about the umpire. Maybe is because they are so use to bunting that they just dont how to react when they face a good pitcher.
Nieto who i think is good coach sometimes becames the center of attention instead of letting the kids play the game. Fans do not come to see him control everymove to show the world how smart he is, they come to see the players.

what happened? said:

lets here from some more fans about the disagreement between the two coaches.

NVfan2 said:

NVfan, you are a tool!!

Joe Amat said:

say what?

you caught that huh!:?) Nice.

Not really trying to have it both ways. That's was actually my point. In every game there are a TON of "what ifs" and they should NEVER be used as an *excuse*. Scoreboard!

Let people report on the game, say what happened and demonstrate that things can swing one way or another based on simple things, but you'll never hear the kind of crap we heard on the BA/CO game(go back and read it) about how "lucky" the other team was and how "we just had a bad night". At least not out of this keyboard.

NV won and I applaud their *real fans*. It sounded like a fun environment with a little fireworks thrown in. I like what the very first fan wrote to start the thread. Now let's go out and make sure that the SGV gets a DIV and a DV championship again!

crystal said:

I didn't ever here about Charter Oak, I thought they were number 1 in the valley according to the Tribune. I thought they would be playing in the Championship. I mean this is supposed to be their year.

Amat Fan said:

Good Pitching stops good hitting. Good Job Northview your baseball team earned my respect last nite. Your fans and Coach are a piece of work, but then again Amat fan base was out of control as well. All fun out there last nite as a spectator, witnessed some good plays on both sides. It is funny watching the drama unfold between both sides, that by itself is entertaining to watch. For those that got tickets left on their cars by Glendoras finest hope it was worth it. 1000 people at a HS baseball game, it was rocking.

say what? said:

Joe Amat,
"We'd never play the "what if game" like some of those who write after a lancer win".

"Sounds like if Zuniga catches that line drive and doubles up one of the runners at the corners-then it might be a different game."

Joe, you can't have it both ways.

Your completely right on, Nieto should have been tossed too. I don't get to see a lot of high school baseball but those umps were inconsistent all night long, with a bit of Amat favor.

fredj said:

Yeah, other sports like Mt. SAC and Citrus basketball teams in state regional championships, Covina playing Damien in another tournament championship -- all of which we covered. Sorry pal, can't cover everything. Just don't have a big enough staff. Maybe I should start asking for volunteers.

Run Forrest Run said:

Speaking of Amat it looks like our intrepid news staff from the SGV Trib.missed some great track and field yesterday at Citrus College during the Bishop Amat Relays.

Over 1200 kids from over 30 schools participated. I like football and baseball as the next guy but there are other sports taking place out there and we want to hear about them!

nice while it lasted... said:

"amat is silent"

You spoke too soon......The Amat windbag has arrived on scene.

Joe Amat said:

I've been away on business, and didn't get to see the game, so I'm waiting to read those eyewitness accounts. Interesting that the coaches got into it and yet only Murphy got tossed, but those here say Nieto "instigated it". He can be a bit of a "bench jockey" (that's not a height joke-look it up !:?) Coming from a higher level so that wouldn't surprise me. But if so, why didn't he get tossed? Good "bench jockeys" know when to stop? What was the deal?

One thing you've never heard come from this keyboard is an excuse for losing to someone on the field, court or mat. Someone steps up and gets a win-they deserve it.

We'd never play the "what if game" like some of those who write after a lancer win, "oh, our bats were just quiet tonight" Guess what, sometimes good pitching does that. Or "you wouldn't have scored without those errors" Hey, players have to make plays, when they don't it costs you. We made some-and it did. And to the baseball genius that said the magnitude of a game or the opponent doesn't contribute to errors - note Murphy's comments above. I thought he handled himself well with some GREAT quotes in the paper.

And you'll never hear "man, we had the bases loaded, what if..." No - the pitcher got the groundout he needed when he needed it. No excuses. Coaches coach, players make plays, or don't, and boosters boo. That's high school sports. It's a fine line between a W & an L when two good teams take the field. Sounds like if Zuniga catches that line drive and doubles up one of the runners at the corners - then it might be a different game. But he didn't. Amat gets a runner in scoring position and instead lines out. That's baseball. Game of inches.

Nice win for the Vikes. The GHS tourney is great all the time for the valley, 1000+ people at a baseball game? That's awesome!
See everyone there next year.

For the Lancers - on to Chatsworth and the National Classic - hope we bounce back.

amat is silent said:

i hear something coming from the amat fans ah the sound of silence from Amat. Its a beautiful thing!

Nieto's Daddy said:

Shame on Nieto for representing Amat like he does. How many coaches is it going to take to say he's a jerk and instigates things? I am embarrassed for Amat's athletic programs with this guy in charge. He's bush league. Northview clearly is a better team and it showed. The score could've been worse and Nieto could've got a.. kicked like the team did if he keeps talking smack.

NVfan said:

"Glory days yeah goin back
Glory days aw he ain't never had
Glory days, glory days"
Yes Amat 73, that is a long time ago.
Where is the poor man's champagne? Still in the parking lot? What happened to all those fat men with mustaches who were salivating about tasing their Marlt Beers in the parking lot? They went home with their tails in between their legs.
So for the people who are ready to apologyze, please dont post "hey it was good game that is all that matter" you are a freaking loser this was all about winning, kids new it and the coaches new it. So please dont bother with the motivating post "good job Billie, just do your best, that is all that counts" BS, Big BS. The crowd was trash talking and the kids ready to rumble, baby this was great i almost had an orgasm.

fan said:

good game got little rowdy but it was a very good game there should be no trash talking about this one. just northview simply beat bishop amat tonight nobody got lucky or nobody got their ass kicked. both teams played hard til the last out was recorded

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