Amat goes back-to-back, Champions again!
The Bishop Amat baseball won the CIF-Southern Section Division V baseball title for the second consecutive season, beating St. Paul 6-2 at U.C. Riverside. Amat becomes just the fifth area team to score back-to-back CIF-SS titles, joining Bishop Amat teams in 1968-69 and 2001-02, Edgewood in 1976-77 and South Hills in 1997-98.
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9:14: Paez gets Sanchez for his seventh strike out. But Flores follows with an infield single. One out to go as Oddo grounds out to second with Flores taking second. It's up to Gonzales....he singles in back of second. Reyes grabs it and fires back and nearly gets pinch-runner Raymon Zazueta, who turned too wide, at third. . Gonzales takes second on the play. Adrian Montecinos pinch hits. He's down 0-2...Paez balks home Zazueta...back to Montecinos....little chopper to Reyes, who guns him down...Amat wins...and the dogpile ensues.
Final: Bishop Amat 6, St. Paul 2
9:00: Vinnie Pentaleo bats for Herrera and grounds out. Mistone is then hit by a pitch and Reyes unloads with a booming home run to center field as new center fielder William Thomas throws his glove in disgust. Bobby Santoyo replaces Encinas. Murakami singles. McClanahan strikes out to end it.
Top of 7: Bishop Amat 6, St. Paul 1
8:48: Wilson goes down swinging. Carrillo then hits a little roller up third, but Mistone fields it and nips him at first. We go to the seventh after Encinas hits a little tapper that Paez fields and throws him out.
End of 6: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
8:41: Seymour flies out to right and Rodriguez follows with a walk, which brings up the big guy - Fox, who proves he's human and hits into a 6-3 double play to end the inning.
Top of 6: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
8:36: Oddo strikes out, but Gonzales ends the no-hit bid with a line-drive single to center. Chico pops to right field. Ball follows with an infield single. Lets see what the Swordsmen can do with this....Chico pops to right field. Seymour makes a running catch, then guns down Gonzales, who for some reason was trying to advance while down by three.
End of 5: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
8:21: Encinas gets Reyes and Bergara before Murakami singles. But McClanahan pops out.
Top of 5: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
8:14: No-hitter through four as St. Paul goes down 1..2.....3
End of 4: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
8:10: Seymour grounds out to second, but Rodriguez follows with a single to left field. That brings up Fox, and we have some more fun as he lines a shot to center. Ball comes up too quick and the ball goes over his head for an RBI triple. Fox, though, doesn't settle for the triple and keeps on coming and his easily tagged out about 10 feet from the plate. Herrera walks. Mistone looks at strike three.
Top of 4: Bishop Amat 4, St. Paul 1
7:56: Chico grounds out, Wilson strikes out and Carrillo flys out as Paez has yet to yield a hit through three innings.
End of three: Bishop Amat 3, St. Paul 1
7:50: Mistone grounds out to shortstop. Reyes follows with a single to left field, but is forced at second on a fielder's choice after a ground ball to third by Bergara. Then its more fun as Murakami lifts a fly to left-center field. Ryan Ball is there, but is bumped by left fielder Sanchez and the ball drops for an RBI double. McClanahan then strikes out to end the inning.
Top of 3: Bishop Amat 3, St. Paul 1
7:37: St. Paul goes down, 1..2..3 as Nick Oddo flys out, Tim Gonzales grounds out and Ryan Ball looks at strike three.
End of 2: Bishop Amat 2, St. Paul 1
7:31: Brian Seymour and Mike Rodriguez both groundout to second. Then Foxy does it again, singles and follows with a stolen base. But Encinas strikes out Justin Herrera to end it.
Top of 2: Bishop Amat 2, St. Paul 1
7:24: Andrew Chico grounds out and Chris Wilson strikes out. But Amat's Paul Paez walks Chris Carrillo and Encinas and then the fun starts as Evan Sanchez pops up, but catcher Jerry McClanahan drops it, allowing Carrillo to score and Encinas to take third. Paez then wiggles out by getting Casey Flores on a fly to center.
End of 1: Bishop Amat 2, St. Paul 1
7:06 p.m.: Here we go....and it doesn't take long. Jordan Fox hits Gabe Encinas' first offering for a bloop double. He's sacficied to third and scores on an error. Tommy Reyes then has an RBI grounder to make it 2-0. Encinas gets out of the jam, getting a pair of groundouts.
Top of 1: Bishop Amat 2, St. Paul 0
Read Steve Ramirez's story by clicking on the thread
RIVERSIDE - There was nothing extraordinary about Bishop Amat High School's 6-2 victory over rival St. Paul in Saturday's CIF-Southern Section Toyota Division V championship game at UC Riverside.
But there was about the accomplishment.
Bishop Amat, getting three hits apiece from seniors Jordan Fox and Keith Murakami and a solid pitching effort from sophomore Paul Paez, recorded its second consecutive divisional title to join the Lancers teams of 1968-69 and 2001-02, Edgewood in '76-77 and South Hills in '97-98 as the only area teams to win back-to-back division titles.
"The team that throws the best strikes, plays the best catch and puts the ball in play the best, has the best chance to win," said Bishop Amat coach Andy Nieto, whose Lancers won their 17th consecutive game to finish 27-4. "There are those who put too much credence on divisions I, II, III or V. Of course, (the teams in those divisions) may have a bigger talent pool, but it doesn't change the formula of the game. The formula is easy.
"What these kids have done in two years is phenomenal. They haven't lost a Division V game in two years. They are 34-0 in Division V games. So for these guys to do what they've done in two years is truly amazing and I'm proud of them."
There was nothing special about the way Bishop Amat accomplished it, either. It was just typical Bishop Amat baseball, which combines good pitching and defense with offensive pressure that usually makes the opponent crack.
And St. Paul obliged.
The Lancers, who outscored their playoff opponents 46-9, showed it from the start.
Fox, who was hitting almost .600 coming into the game, hit Gabe Encinas' first pitch for a bloop double. He then scored after left fielder Justin Herrera placed a perfect sacrifice bunt up the first-base line. But Casey Flores went for the play at third, and his throw glanced off Chris Wilson for an error and a 1-0 advantage. The Lancers increased the lead to 2-0 on an RBI groundout by Tommy Reyes.
"I was just trying to get the rally started any way I could," said Fox, who went 3 for 4 with a double, triple, RBI and a run scored.
"If it's a hit, good. I just wanted to get us going."
St. Paul (22-12-1), which lost for the fourth time to its Del Rey League rival, didn't cave - at least not at first.
The Swordsmen, taking advantage of a walk and a two-base fielding error, made it 2-1 in the bottom of the inning.
But the Lancers again forced the issue, this time in the third after Reyes singled with one out. Nick Bergara hit into a force but Murakami, who went 3 for 3, hit a deep fly into the gap in center field.
Ryan Ball raced over to make the play, but he bumped into left fielder Evan Sanchez and dropped the ball for an RBI double and a 3-1 lead.
The Lancers then made it 4-1 in the fourth after center fielder Mark Rodriguez singled with one out. Fox then hit a line drive to center field. Ball misjudged it and came in before the ball sailed over his head for an easy triple that scored Rodriguez. Fox tried for an inside-the-park homer, but was tagged at the plate on a relay throw by Andrew Chico.
"That's just part of our game," Nieto said. "We try to just maximize our outs and put pressure on the defense, regardless of who they are.
"We like to make them have to think on their feet, and we did that."
Reyes then capped the effort with a two-run home run to center to make it 6-1 in the seventh.
The rest was up to Paez, who despite being a sophomore has been the Lancers' ace all season. He carried a no-hitter into the fifth inning before designated hitter Tim Gonzalez ended it with a line single to center with one out. Ball then got an infield hit.
But Chico, with Amat leading 4-1, then lifted a shallow fly into right field. Brian Seymour made a nice running catch for the second out, then threw out Gonzalez, who attempted to tag up.
Bishop Amat's sophomore left-hander, who has been dominant during the playoffs, then retired St. Paul in order in the sixth.
"I didn't care about the no-hitter," said Paez, who also had seven strikeouts. "I just wanted to help us win and get my first championship."
St. Paul made it 6-2 in the seventh following singles by Flores and Gonzalez and a balk before pinch-hitter Adrian Montiecinas grounded out to end the game.
"It's such an accomplishment to win back-to-back," Fox said. "It's like I said, it just shows we've had depth throughout the school (during these two years). We just keep having new people coming up (to the team) and we just keep winning."
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i was insulting amat not bassett. gotta love your 3-7 crappy football program. You amat fans are annoying. back the barrio for you
So now you knock Bassett?. what fool you are. "IF" your word. Again hiding. What did Amat do to make you so bitter? let me guess you were a pine rider at Amat or you just could not afford to go there and that was dream that got crushed, so not the bad mouthing...what a baffoon you are.
most teams can do better than amats 3-7 so even if i was a fan of say bassett the programs right now would be comparable
pile it on, anyday.
as long as we can equal the playing field and get you to tell us who your HS team is so we can follow both teams and compare who is doing better as their season progresses. Bashing Amats football team and hiding takes a big man to do. you have no Cahones to cough up your team because you know you are wrong. WOOOOOOOSe!
cant wait till football starts so amats 3-7team can match last years record or do even worse. I will be right here piling on.
idea,
This is Amats blog, get a clue. well 1/2 of it is. If not for Amat this blog would be boring and not getting the hits it gets. Ask Fred / Aram, if not for the Amat sport intrest this blog gets as many hits as a track and field Topic. Football season is here watch how many Amat topics come into play this season and all bashers will attack it just to say something negative. San Gabriel Valley Amat Tribune.
bleeds brown and yellow:
I have a better idea. why dont you and the rest of the amat fans go on your own blog so the rest of the sgv can talk about other schools and not have to deal with arrogant people like yourself.
In that case, there is a simple solution to YOUR and everyone elses dilemma.
So as not to insult YOUR extremely limited and myopic intelligence, when the thread involves an AMAT subject, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT click on it and read the posts. Only then will your day not be ruined by our posts.
I mean, how much simpler can it get? Elementary Mr. Watson, elementary.
that is a correct assumption yes
So am I to understand ONLY Amat bloggers are snobbish and classless while everyone is else proper and polite?
I MUST be living in a parallel universe.
Classless,
Well as you can see that the classless Amat people whomever they are (some imposters) do come in here and spread some hate and bashing like some others schools do on this blog. It is a battle royal in here for some but then again there are some wise that post some real good findings and respect each others kids as players etc. No school or its parents should be labeled by what some say to insult one another. I am sure all schools have there loud and abnoxious bloggers but Amat catches allot more heat for it, but then again the blog is 50 percent Amat retoric and 50 percent others. So it stands to reason why the bad Amat crew is bringing this hatred to the good side of Amat. Judge the bad side not the good side.
lancer parent. I sure hope the good element you speak of doesn't includes any of the regular posters on this blog because 99 percent of the amat posters here come across as snobish know it all's. I am sure there are good parents at amat but this blog is a lousy example of amat fans.
yes we know who you are jcaz someone hiding behind that fake name. that other poster is right. until you post your real name you are nothing more than an amat fan hiding behind your name. so dont bash others till you come out of the closet
All that I am saying is look at the foolish names that are used on this blog.
There is no consistency as to the person or persons who are talking smack. They are all over the place with the garbage they use and they are afraid of telling us who they are.
The reason is quite simple of course, because if you knew who they were, or at least knew who they rooted for, then it would be a level playing field. I suppose you can’t blame them because to be honest with you, I suppose I to would be ashamed to compare records and score board if I were them. These people show no class.
As for me, and a few other Amat people, at least you know who we are and where we come from. True, you don't know my real name or who I really am, but that is not the point because we always post with the same names, all the time.
None of this BS by hiding behind a silly moniker.
AND who really knows YOU jcaz?? It's not like everyone knows you or Joe Amat or Amat73, I mean really aren't those 'hide behind names'? Why don't you and Joe A give up your names - let us know who you really are, why hide? Again, so hypocritical.. and for the record- closet is spelled with an e not an i, not trying to be annoying and just trying to help.
AND who really knows YOU jcaz?? It's not like everyone knows you or Joe Amat or Amat73, I mean really aren't those 'hide behind names'? Why don't you and Joe A give up your names - let us know who you really are, why hide? Again, so hypocritical.. and for the record- closet is spelled with an e not an i, not trying to be annoying and just trying to help.
Its no use responding to these people because you will never know who they are, eventhough you always know who and what they don't like.
These people are still in the closit and will not come out. If they did, then we would know who they were right ? No fun for them.
Another "drive by post." Shoot you're stuff and run run and hide...
Did not insult anyone just speaking the truth. We must take the good with the bad and thats why Amat has been mislabled here, as just bad and that is far from the truth. The division of parents is there at Amat and ask most Amat parents and they will tell you the same. The good side outweighs the dark side over at Amat but we get labeled as Thugs, Raiders, Barrio etc. That is far from what Amat parents are about. We are fair and very friendly to any other school but to be knocked for what a few rotten apples do is not fair to the rest of those great parents over in Lancer Country. Truth hurts but Amat is still a very friendly place and the parents are top notch, well most of them anyways. At least we are honest about our problem.
amat parent
you insult the people on this blog and then call yourself part of the good element at amat? look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary. There is a photo of you right next to the definition.
WHAT PATHETIC POSTS.
OVER HS SPORTS.
GROW UP BOTH OF YOU AND GET A LIFE.
ESPECIALLY A AMAT PERSON TALKING THIS WAY.
We have a split division over at Amat the Raider Amat parents and the stand up good parents that Amat takes pride in.
We cannot wait for the Raider nation of Amat to go away, hoping it is a dying breed of parents.
Sad but true that we have to admit Amat has this section of parents, we want it out and off our campus. tough to get rid of.
We good apoligize for the bad that Amat has inherited.
mind your own business
wow - battle for the classiest remarks now going on..Shame on both of the last two bloggers. grow up or go to your respective corners and think how ashamed you should be. How embarrasing.
a Rainder fan? ha ha sounds like you have been hitting the suds already this morning. back off the brewskis bleeds piss and crap
Trailer Trash,
As long as your are paying for the ring, sure.
PS, I'm not a Rainder fan but I'll take the keg and celebrate while you smoke your meth and thanks for proving my point.
bleeds brown and yellow. your pink ring is on order too. do you need a raider t=shirt and a kegger with that to celebrate??
Haters,
You are all so perfect to write on this blog hwy don't you try something different? Instead of complaining here about us being D5, why don't you stick some paper in your printer (if you have one) and write a letter to CIF and tell them to move us out of D5? Oh wait! Yo have no letter writing skills from what I've seen here!
Hopefully if we do move up,it will be to YOUR level.
We won, live with it for the next year.
JCAZ--THIS ISN'T JUST A NV-AMAT THING SO GET OFF NV. AMAT, ABSOLUTELY 100% SHOULD BE IN DIVISION 1 - PERIOD...... JUST LIKE FOOTBALL AND THEN WHEN AND IF THEY DO WELL THERE, AS THEY DID MANY YEARS AGO, THEY CAN OFFICIALLY HAVE BRAGGING RIGHTS. EVERY THREAD HAS YOU 3 AMAT FAITHFULS AND THE OTHER 75-80% ARE THOSE THAT CAN'T STAND AND GLADLY COUNTER THE OBNOXIOUS FEW. IF IT WERE JUST BETWEEN THE 2, THAT IS CALLED A RIVALRY BUT WAY TOO MANY OTHERS AGREE AND SURE GO AHEAD AND CALL IT JEALOUSY, THAT SEEMS TO WORK FOR YOU GUYS. AS WE SAID LONG AGO, NV'S VICTORY RIDE AGAINST AMAT ENDED AFTER THAT WEEKEND - WE HAVE MOVED WAY PAST THAT VICTORY AND WENT ON TO PLAY A GREAT SEASON OF BASEBALL. AMAT NEEDS TO BE AND SHOULD BE IN DIVIOSION 1, NOT INCH THEIR WAY UP - IS IT THAT DIFFICULT JUST TO ADMIT THE TRUTH? I AM NOT SCREAMING - JUST TOO LAZY TO RETYPE AFTER REALIZING THE CAPS WERE LOCKED!
Im a little confused here about all this comparison stuff latley.
Did'nt Amat beat Northview something like 3 years in a row ? Was'nt this the first time Northview beat Amat in quite a long time ?
And is'nt Amat going to play in Northviews division next year ? Against Northview and thier highly touted competition ?
And isnt Amat going to spank Northview next year, at least twice ?
They will most likely play each other again at least once in a tournament, and then they will most likley meet up again in the playoffs right ?
So, when Amat plays Northview, and beats them next year (both times), then what will pinky finger and the other's have to say then ?
Oh, Amat sould be in another division....Oh Amat is beating all the low end caliber teams..Oh Amat has'nt played anyone except Northview...Oh Amat....blah blah blah.
Yeah, I totally agree....the Nieto midgets make Dan Henley seem like a motivator.
speaking of nieto i feel so sorry for the the kids at CAL HI who must deal with his brother who thinks hes all that. not there for the kids its just for his own career advancement everytime there s a baseball coach job somewhere else off he goes la serna and st paul who knows where else.can a coach tell a kid how he must wear his hair or if he has facial hair.what year or world are we in?he must go back to the minors where he belongs or did he play majors as a scab.how many kids must he make hate the game they love b/4 he gets let go.this is high school baseball not the pros that he wish he would have made as a real player. cal alumni*** bring back coach gonzalez
Dear Repent-
I do envy how many burritos and corona's you were all able to nail in the parking lot. I didn't know they made seat belts stretch that far to get around your enormous waists for those trucks with the Raiders stickers on them. Don't forget to check in with your parole officer.
I am tired of all the Amat haters. Yes, we are fat, drunk and obnoxious and those are just our women, but we win. I mean just because we can recruit and then play teams from d5 shouldn't in any way demean our worth. I am really proud of our coach Napolean Nieto. I so enjoy him having to argue every call and show that typical USC smug demeanor to everyone he comes in contact with. I think he carries that clip board to remind himself how truly great he is....and be fair, what 5 foot 2, 200 pound guy doesn't have a short man's complex? Please be fair to him..I mean..after all, we are the ONLY people who like him, so cut him so slack. Unfortunately our horses......errr softball team couldn't match up with our baseball team. Viva La Mexico!
all haters. you just described the amats women's team
Raider
no but you have to be a trailer white trash skin head with a Nazi Swastika tattoed on your forehead and no rings to show for you to want to hate and show so much envy
one of those rings being pink and a beer in the other hand
and 4 CIF championship rings on one hand
yes and have a huge beer belly
just so i am clear...do you have to be fat and mexican to be an amat fan?
Player of the Year: Jordan Fox
Pitcher of the Year: Aaron Elias
First Team:
P- Chris Drossel
P- Paul Paez
P- Tyler Pill
INF- Jiovanni Mier
INF- Tommy Reyes
INF- Richie Pedroza
INF- Andrew Mistone
OF- Jeff Gelalich
OF- Kevin Jones
OF- Danny Roddy
UTL- Marc Andrade
You guys make me want to curse!
That's as far from, "...what I fail to realize..." as could be humanly possible. In fact I've said exactly that a few times on those thread alone
That's ALL I've been saying-all season long
(maybe have someone read it to you)
"...Regardless of Division - you still have to play every day/night or someone will knock you off..."
joe amat: you fail to realize one thing. baseball, unlike most sports, is a sport where even the worse team can beat the best team on any given day. In MLB you can lose 50 to 60 games a year and still be the best. stop with the lame a** who beat who comparisions. It's as tired as your old mug is.
another SGV: i have your pink dress and ring on order. Is that an XXXXL large dress for ya?
Stop the debate. Both teams had the CIF title as their ultimate goal. Both achieved that goal. They should both be applauded for their efforts. Way to make the San Gabriel Valey proud. When these boys come back for their 20 year reunions they won't be talking about who was ranked number 1 in the Tribune's poll, they will all be squeezing their rings onto their pinkies and be reminiscing about their CIF title. great job Lancers and Vikings.
You Amat haters are a big joke. And to say that they "play in a weak division" and are in a "womens league" and the "pink rings" is getting old and quite infantilish and quite insulting to the opposing teams that they beat, might I add.
I just got one thing to say to all the cockroaches cowards that hide behind your computer with all your tiring Amat whining...
Back to Back CIF Champs Baby!!!
Cifbaseball-
D3 would be nice, but the CIF tries to spread out the private school leagues across divisions. If the Del Rey were there with the Mission League it would be an all private final four and CIF hates that.
Again, the competition over the course of the season was NOT inferior - quite the contrary.
Fox was 8/11 in the GHS tournament, 8/12 in the National Classic
and 13/25 vs nonleague opponents like Chatsworth, Loyola, St Francis and Damien
Reyes was 4/10 in the GHS tournament, 4/9 in the National Classic, and 14/20 vs the same non-league opponents
That's inferior?
NV&AmatAreBothGood -we agree on your name at least.
I think BAww was responding to someone elses statement,
"....Monrovia and Mayfair who beat us in not so important games..."
So you can't use the same argument on two sides of the issue.
I happen to think that they're all important and have given NV much credit for their win. In fact just said, even though we both won championships - they won head to head so they should be #1 and we should be #2. However we also know that rankings are not what determines the outcome of a single game - or an imaginary 4 out of 7/how many out of 10, etc. It's about who's better that day - and NV was.
As for pitching and defense - debatable on both counts.. sticks - what do you think? And when you said, "...This team wins quite a bit over the years...."
were you referring to Northviews first title in 37 years or Amat's 4th this decade and 3rd repeat in about that same time?
Congrats for winning, even if we all agree that you should be playing
Div 3 along with Crespi, ND. You did not choke in what was expected.
Joe Amat, is hard to say Fox and Reyes are the best whey you play inferior competition.
BA Would Win,
Are you drunk already? Glendora Tournament was Northview's World Series? I think Northview went on to go 14-1 in league and sweep the playoffs earning the Div. 4 Championship. Don't give me that garbage that the Glendora Tournament wasn't a big game for Amat, the place was packed and their was so much electricity in the air and you know it. Pitching and defense wins championships and take your Amat hat off for a second now and tell me truthfully, who has better pitching and defense? 3 games out of 10 for Northview, drink some water for a change cooler boy. This team wins quite a bit over the years.
myopic sgvfan,
Yes, seriously!
You say leave out the "who beat who" but then you try the same thing when you say that SD or Covina would *easily* dominate D5. The only difference is that I've shared *what actually happened* and your giving an opinion based on how you *feel* IN YOUR HEAD. Big difference.
No one *easily* dominates any division. And we've already discussed that teams beat teams in higher divisions. Like I said St Paul beat teams in D1. Teams that beat the D1 CHAMPION! And you don't think they *could* beat D4 SD or Covina... or BALDWIN PARK?!?!? Maybe BP puts up a fight... heck they beat San Dimas. But does that say something about BP... or San Dimas.
Or does it say exactly what I've been saying the entire time - Regardless of division, ranking, or standings -
****Y o u H a v e t o P l a y t h e G a m e s !!!***
Seriously, you think the DIV 5 teams (other than amat) could not easily be taken by San Dimas and Covina? you insult SD and Covina, as I think all three of those teams would dominate JUST AS EASILY as Amat. JOEAMAT---don't leave your usual list of who beat who...WE DO NOT CARE, IT ONLY WORKS IN YOUR HEAD. I think as sucky as Baldwin Park's record was this year--they would put up a fight against St.Paul as well. BBUT DON'T POUND ON ME - I KNOW THERE RECORD WAS AWFUL, BUT a tough team you could not underestimate!! San Dimas and Covina (on a good Pill day) would easily take that division clearly as easily as NV would.
Joe Amat
Maybe Fred can promote you for SGV SCOUTING GURU FOR BASBEALL... LOL
Watch Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, but is Northview in a high division? South Hills is in the highest division in the area and they reached the finals and lost to a team that would wipe the floor with Northview.
Mr Caps - nothing that I said is inconsistent in any way, shape, or form, with ANYTHING that I've said regarding football... but that's another conversation. Come back with that on Monday Morning football and we'll chat.
As for end of the year honors - here's how I see it
TOP TEN
1.Northview
2. Amat
3. South Hills
4. Diamond Ranch
5. Charter Oak
6. Bonita
7. San Dimas
8. Covina
9. Azusa
10. La Puente
COY Murphy, NV (too many nail-biting wins not to give it to him)
POY - Tough call for Fred. I don't envy you. Nor would there be any valid complaint if it was given to any number of guys. Northview seemed to be a real team effort, Elias ran the table(11-0 same record on the year as Paez), but I sensed Andrade was kind of the heart and soul (although Williams seemed to be a more vocal leader)
That being said Fox may be the best hitter and Reyes is the best player....and it might not be close. Best player=POY
My vote, Tommy Reyes
(although I can't wait to see Pill at CSUF!)
JOE AMAT
JUST REMEMBER YOUR WORDS WHEN FOOTBALL STARTS.
YOU ARE THE ONLY BLOGGER THAT TALKS OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR DUMB MOUTH
the most impressive win was northview over those amat donks. made my baseball year
the most impressive non playoff win, by any team this year in the SGV has to be Amats win of City section Champ Chatsworth, nuff said, also there overall strength of schedule is head and shoulders above all the others. that being the case , I don't have a beef if Northview is rated number one, we're in D4 next year, get them then, Paewz will .
you amat fans can spin it anyway you want. this is a lower level womens title. I hear the championship trophy is being sponsered by a womens purse company/
Capt Jack,
Read everything... we agree. Nowhere have I EVER said that Northview "is not all that" nor implied any such thing, and I was absolutely rooting for them in the D4 finals. What I do assert is EXACTLY what I just said,
"...Regardless of Division - you still have to play every day/night or someone will knock you off..."
There are teams in ALL divisions that can beat others in higher divisions. And sorry for the this team that team - "Just Baseball" asked for comparison - and that's exactly what he got. SO YES it certainly means that since we lost to Northview and Damien teams that they lost to **COULD** beat us... no doubt! And that "works in baseball" without question! I have been saying that since the first pitch of the season. And all of those teams I mentioned in D5 COULD beat teams in higher divisions - as proved by the examples. The final four in all divisions could get knocked off by many of the other semifinalists in all divisions in a one game playoff.
And I'm POSITIVE that you don't want to compare "impressive wins", so let's leave it at that.
Finally...
Congrats to Northview on their first title in nearly 37 years
Congrats to South Hills on their first final in a 11 years
Congrats to Diamond Ranch on their first final ever
and...
Congrats to the Lancers on their fourth title this decade and third time achieving back-to-back titles
Joe Amat
Stick to Football, you make a little more sense there.
Your baseball skills suck and you continue to make really ignorant comparisons
Capt was the Glendora Tournament really that important to Amat? That was Northview's World Series. To Amat, it was preparation for a bigger tournament with better competition. If they played 10 times, do you think your Vikes could win 3 games? The first 2 playoff games proved Amat's heads weren't into it. Once they got focussed, it was all over.
Fred J. and the rest,
First of all, congratulations to the Bishop Amat players and asst. coaches and even to former coach Kenny K. who most of these came to Amat to play for. It was a dominant run, but Northview's div. 4 run was just as dominant til the last game at Dodger Stadium. Amat had a very tough game in the first round with the little school from Downey that a lot of people haven't heard of and the Battle of La Puente wasn't a completely dominant performance either. Don't forget that, nor does it make your championship less. Not here to say our title is this and yours is that, but let's not be negative towards one to pump up another either as one or two of you did. I am a Northview fan, but I can still give credit to Amat and say I was happy to see those kids last night be so excited, that's what it's all about. Joe Amat, can you stop with the "this team beat this team who beat this team"...You keep mentioning Monrovia and Mayfair etc..to boost your Northview isn't all this argument. Well, you lost to us which means Monrovia and Mayfair who beat us in not so important games could've beat you if you go by your logic or Damien who you lost to with your starters lost to some crappy teams this year, does that mean you would lose to the teams that beat Damien? It's a stupid argument and doesn't work in baseball. You look more at impressive wins and the small amount of losses a team has...This means that day in and day out, they performed at a high level. Congrats to the kids.
Just baseball,
You said to Fred:
You simply dont know baseball! Do some homwork on the bracketts then get back to us...
Here's some info that shows FJR is right - there's not the big gap that you think, and Nieto is right in the article, Regardless of Division - you still have to play every day/night or someone will knock you off.
St Paul beat Mayfair and they beat Northview the D4 champion. They also beat Westlake who was able to beat the D1 Champion Simi Valley.
Bishop Montgomery swept Alemany and they beat South Hills the D3 runner-up. They also beat D2 semifinalist Palos Verdes.
San Marino beat Temple City , who couldn't make it out of D5's second round, but TC beat South Hills.
La Salle didn't even make the playoffs in Amat's D5 league, and they beat Monrovia who was able to defeat Northview the D4 champion.
And, how tough could Savanna (D4 semi-finalist) be - they lost to a 6-20 Pacifica team and a 9-18 Western squad?
Or D3 semifinalist, Elsinore? They lost to La Serna..and D5 finalist St Paul beat them all 3 times they played this season.
So the bottom line is you gotta play. It's tough to repeat (San Antonio Spurs) and plenty of great teams at all levels that were supposed to win don't (New England Patriots)
Some homework on the brackets? Okay, if were being fair, didn't Monrovia, a team from Division V that got knocked out in the second round, beat Northview in the Northview tournament. Didn't Temple City, another Div. V team from the RHL beat South Hills, a Div. III finalist. I still think Div. IV was tougher, but not the huge gap most people seem to think it is. Northview should finish the season No. 1, it deserves it based on the total year. But I'm not sure even Northview would have dominated Div. V the way Amat just did. That was an impressive whipping they put on everyone.
D5, Pink ring, womens league, call it what you want. Amat ran the Table all year in their league and the CIF playoffs and simply dominated their opponents. Others in our valley and I wont mention any name did not or could not do it the Amat way. The talent at Amat is far superior to the rest of the neighboring school, even the one to the North of them that beat them that cold Sat. Nite out in Henderson field. Congrats to Tommy Reyes this kid is the real deal and Irvine just found a star for the next 4 years. what a shot Tomcat! Amat brings back another solid team next year and make another run at it, for the rest around Amat I dont think your luck will be as good. Parents bring you kids to Amat to play Baseball this is where stars are made see Reyes , Mistone , Boomer and Fox. Nice send off to the senior players.
Don't you just get the feeling here that a few of these clowns were just hoping that Amat had lost tonight ?
And when they won, they just had to say something, anything in fact, just so that they could post something on the message board.
It's so funny how idiotic these people are. I mean, they are so focused on the anti-amt stuff, that when they can't blast the teams, they shoot off on Fred. How funny.
Hate Amat
Dude it's late and I've been enjoying the night!
Yeah, you're right, Amat really is overrated especially given the comp they played in CIF.
The game just wasn't at a level of last night at all. Northview would still give these guys serious problems.
Hey Just Baseball,
I agree Amat is completely classless and overrated, but before you post your feelings, maybe mix in a spell check!
FredJ | May 31, 2008 11:00 PM
You simply dont know baseball! Do some homwork on the bracketts then get back to us...
Very weak comment!
Beer Bottle/Why so bitter on Amat ?
Enough of the pink ring comments, can you let these kids have their moment. They didn't just win that division, they dominated it and deserve their credit.
The kids were fine, but is there a bigger A-hole than Nieto? Hey Napolean, its about the kids...stay off the field and take your clip board with you. And to that loser behind home plate in the striped shirt...hey fat boy....are you really such a loser that you have to celebrate each pitch? Get a life? The best part was when St. Paul finally did one thing right, you couldn't stand that someone was actually cheering for the opposite team. Its nice to know the Raider Nation resides in La Puente.....classless thugs....oh yeah....D5 is a real challenge, isn't it?
Kudo's to the Lancers. Paez pitched a great game. He mixed his pitches well and Amat can hit. Reyes' shot was an absolute bomb.
With 5 of 9 starters being sophomores, the Swordsmen will be back next year to win it all!
Go Swordsmen!
What's up with all the beer bottles in the parking lot?
homophobe with the pink fetish,
How must it feel for the other CIF finalists in the "manly" divisions to lose to teams in the "womens" division? It looks like the final 3 teams that Amat beat in the "womans division" beat teams that defeated our other two SGV CIF finalists.
I bet there are over 550 other schools in the Southern Section that would love to win a ring?
Tommy Reyes hit an absolute bomb. That ball would have gone out of every Major League stadium.
Hey, give Amat credit, it's not like there's a big difference between Div. IV and V...In fact, last year's Div. V finalists were better than the Div. IV finalists, in my opinion.
Congrats to the lancer boys on their victory iver St.Paul it was one heck of a game! And to Tommy Reyes GREAT job on your 400+ homerun .... way to finish off your senior year!
I Saw the name Glendora tree surgery,Best coach in the valley in his time !!
a pink ring is only cool if you live in sf or are a boys team winning a womans title like amat just did
One Child-2 Rings,01-02! I Should Have had one more child, A PINK RING would be cool!!
You know I love that Edgewood Talk!!!
i dont need to answer your stupid questions
I was positive that you had no answer for the question
someone order a pink dress for i live in my own reality czech
if you gotta correct it with a second post-you can do better!
Lost all credibility and shot your wad early with the same dumb "pink ring" jokes. Served you right!
And your CIF championship ring-what color is it?
That's right- it's imaginary
*dumb
mom jokes? is that all you got? I am always amused at people who laugh at their down stupid jokes. i bet you have one those pink rings dont ya amat donkey?
Congratulations Amat! So Fred, Northview #1 Amat & #2 in the final poll right?
I played at whittier high 1976 we palyed edgewood are 1st cif playoff game.We lost obviously but the game was crazy it broke into two major fights parents players and coaches from what i can remember.anybody from edgewood etc remember any of the good details score fight details.It sucks getting old cant remember very much of the game
hey congrats guy, your mom was very impressed by the rings, keep looking at your t-ball participation plastic trophy, it's all you have! lmfao
pink rings for everyone congrats on the WOMENS title boys!!
Did we lose fred - no refresh info
need to pull McClanahan outt before he does some damage, not good damage either, anyways Keep hustling boys!
cjpackfan - hit refresh! I got 3rd inning
744 and all you've got up is the top of the first, weak..............the trib is weak, very weak
BEWARE: THE ANIMAL WILL BE SET LOOSE TONIGHT!
polish up those pink rings amat fans.
goooooo st paul kick those cocky lancers in the ***
That's what Fred said. We are actually joining "ourselves" in this elite company that includes the GREAT Edgewood teams with Pill. Toothman, Favata, and Angulo (former Lancer!:?) and South Hills during the end of Coach Bastions run.
Might that mid-70s Edgewood team under Karl Major be the best valley baseball squad ever?
This would actually be the 3rd time Amat has gone back-to-back.
Knock on wood!
Old Amat Guy,
Read it again, it's in there.
aren't you forgetting the Ameat teams of 2001 and 2002, they went back to back too
After Beating St. Paul 3 times already you would think Bishop Amat has their number, but it is always difficult to beat a team twice much more 3 times but Four? This could be where St. Paul breaks through and Wins Finally. The way Amat is playing the last two games they are smelling the finish line, can they close the deal? This will be a better game then the first 3. Errors will decide this game. I am picking Bishop Amat. 7-4