Reading the article I saw the QBs are listed in alphabetical order, not by depth. Tillis must be doing better than we think because I was looking at the active roster on their website and of the 4 QBs in the article, there only 2 listed and he is one of them. Lets support him and hope he does well to bring some notoriety to the SGV.

Could not win the Job from Tamayo in HS and you want to try to compete at Hampton for the QB position? This makes no sense.

Some people get confused and cannot decipher the differance. Is he a Real QB? or is he in love with the Image and title of a QB? same as: Is he a Biker? Or is he in love wit the image of a Biker.

When you cannot beat out a 5'6" QB in HS and you are 5'11" what does that say? There could not be politics and all three schools this kid attended. Sorry but I see the same story in this kid at college,,wait will he start jumping around colleges like he did HS only to find the same results? No QB role?

Lets get real,

Being on a roster does not mean Shyt. where is he on the depth chart 4th (too much credit) 5th more like it. He will be the same as he was in HS ball a practice squad QB that's all folks!. He will never start in that program and when the upcoming QB recruits come in he still will not beat them out. Answer why he never started in HS?, and we are talking three not one HS that he attended.?? Tamayo may be home playing xbox 20 football but Blake could not beat him out??explain that? and you think he is going to be the next Hampton QB. stop fooling yourself and you get real. Not going to happen.

lets get real? relax and dont get worked up over the amat fans here. most arent worth it

Your right some things never change, like the bashing of young men by small minded people like you on this blog. I for one am sick of it. I know that college coaches with college and NFL backgrounds can evaluate talent better than anyone on this blog. But some things due change, like this young man moving forward in life and not listening to the ignorant SGV critics. Some things do change, like this young man playing football in college, while most of his former peers are sitting at home playing football on PS3 or Xbox. The questions you should be asking are: WHERE are the QBs that were supposedly better? Answer:At home, not playing. WHY did a former Elite 11 QB and a CURRENT college QB not play in HS? Answer:Because some things, even in this time never change.

amat sucks donkey **** the sooner you people realize it the better off you will be.

Some things never change. Tillis could not handle the snap from center in practice when he played for Amat. most of the time the ball was on the ground. Daddy blamed the center but I see he has not changed and is still having problems. Hampton will figure out it is a fraud that he even is given the roster spot of a QB. We are talking Blake Tillis here. Never started a game at QB under the Friday Night Lights in the SGV.

USC kids don't NEED to go to the combine. there are so many prospects at USC they are one of the schools that hosts their own "Pro Day"

I've never spoken on this blog, but could no longer hold my tongue.Reality Czech, its amazing how quick some are to tear others down when they accomplish positive things. I am familiar with Hampton having come from the east coast. Hampton is not and never has been an easy university to gain admission. They are extremely competitive and have students that have achieved as much documented success and notoriety as Yale and Harvard in various majors and careers. In short, it is a well respected institution.
Secondly, the article did not say Tillis was the QB that mishandled the snap. Thats reaching at best. I also didn't see anything that indicated that he was a "walk on". Even if he is and did, he's taking that snap at a 4 year D1 University. By the way, I did a little more reading and just 2 years ago Hampton had more players at the NFL combine than USC. Sounds pretty good to me. Lets just be happy for all kids that are living their dreams and continuing their educations.

funny-Tillis is a "walk-on" and here's what it says about the QBs (and Tillis) that play behind the starter Herbert Bynes (who is only starting because the #1 is ineligible)

"Behind Bynes, the Pirates' depth chart is paper-thin. Three other quarterbacks took snaps on Saturday, with freshman Darius Jackson showing promise on a late scoring drive. But redshirt freshman Devon Jarrett and freshman Blake Tillis each struggled to sustain a drive — and, in some cases, to handle the snap."

So congrats for being a walk-on 5th string QB that can't handle a snap at one of the easier 4 yr schools in the country to get into.

Congratulations to Blake Tillis. I just shows what I always have said about the politics in HS football in this valley. He had to have the talent AND the grades to make it to the next level. I wish him much success and no his family is proud of him overcoming all that adversity.

That makes no sense that Tillis would go to a D1 college to play qb? He never ever started a game in his whole HS career? He bounced from Damien to Amat to Los Altos and still never ever got under center to start a varsity game?..makes you wonder about recruitment standards???

Blake is playing at a University in Virgina. Hampton University

Recent article about Hampton Football, Blake is mentioned: http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_bynes_0824aug24,0,3440002.story

Hampton Football Roster: http://www.hamptonpirates.com/roster.asp?path=football

Lancer 08,

I'll check around also, but I do know he was an Elite 11 QB so that also shows his QB ability. In regards to being hit, how many QBs out there like to be hit? None. If he is playing D1 somewhere, he's the only former QB from the SGV I know of who is. Congrats to him and represent.

Lancer4life,

I will check on that Virginia roster to see if Blake Tillis is there.. could be a redshirt but I doubt it. Come on if Tillis was that good (D1 Virginia) he would have started at QB over Tamayo at Los Altos. Tillis is a pretty good track guy I will give him that but he is no way a good football player. I would have put Wags or Bonilla to QB before I would have put Tillis. Our whole team knew Tillis could not lead us. He was afraid to get hit. I know I hit him a few times in practice when he played reciever, he winced with pain everytime.

Lancer 08,

We dont back down, I agree but Verti and staff quit on us in that ND game. I dont know waht the deal was with that but it happened. I also know they could have played Tillis at QB. He did very well in practice, passing league and our scrimmmages when they gave him the opportunity but they never did in the game. Heck, they put him to return the opening kick against ND and he returned the ball for 15-20 yards. I'm not saying he was a savior, but I know he would have been better than the others. By the way, I heard he's playng D1 in Virginia so he must have ability.

Bottom line, we were one dimensional because they didnt respect the pass or our Qb. Same as last year. Im sure this new staff wont make that mistake.

Lancer4life

Good points but I never said Verti was a good coach I said he was a nice guy and I respect him as being my coach at that time. I will not bash another Fellow Lancer. In reguards to Carrillo at QB. Heck thats all we had what were you going to go with Tamayo? Then we put Wells back there in desperation, once that got keyed on we were done. The Notre Dame game I know we were fed to the wolves and had no game plan but as I said earlier we faced some stacked teams and even having Pete Carrol as our coach that nite we would have still got whacked. It happens. Talent is a big part of HS sports. Our coaches knew we were over matched but we showed up and still played the game regurdless of the outcome. We are Lancers we never back down.

Lancer 08,

Yes, Lancers stick togehter. Sticking together is one thing, but I for one will not give Verti credit for being a good coach when he wasn't. There is just no arguing that point. Secondly, our '07 team was loaded with talent and if you were there you know all too well that the available talent was not used. Carrillo was not a good Qb. He wasn't even a servicable Qb. That along with the poor coaching and lack of preparation doomed the '07 team. If you were there you remember that ND game was painful and embarassing. We can stick together, but I will not make excuses or lie for another Lancer.

Mighty are the Men That Wear The Blue And Gold And Pink Thongs

Thanks Lancer 93,

No need to go backwards with all the details but it was tough on all of us players and our coaches, we were hearing it from all angles, including this blog. Some of our coaches told us to stay off of the blog. Lots of us read it because when you tell someone not to, well the suspense was there for us as to what was being said. The class of 2007 with Fletcher and D. Gaise, Carrillo was not bad but we did run into some very stacked teams that first year in the Serra then last year with the loss of key players plus the Verti bashing really took it's toll. I believe Coach Verti really stepped down for the better of the program and in my opinion he is a nice guy and I will always respect him as my coach, like you said us Lancers stick together. This years team I am excited about, they have a good core group left over from last year and that coaching staff is impressive. We will see wont we. Thanks again and you are right. Mighty are the Men That Wear The Blue And Gold. Proud to be one of them.

Well said 93'.

From one Alumni to another Lancer '08, the last two years were bad but we never gave up hope on your Lancer '08 team we stick it out thru good and bad years, in our history your class was not the only one that did not make it. We stood proud of your team always taking the field and trying to bring home Victory to our Alma Mater. It is not like you went 0-10 you did get your wins, So all the respect is there for your team and your class. This is because you are Part of "Mighty are The Men that Wear The Blue and Gold." Lancers stick together.

moron donkey boy,
First off your post makes no sense . You post since you know I am from AMAT I would keep up the bet ,then you post can't trust a former Lancer. Let my clue you in on something , once a Lancer always a Lancer. You could at least post your reply," Possible future donkey boy" so I know it is you replying . I will defintely keep my part but how can we trust you will since everytime you post you post under various names. Maybe Fred can get involved and if you or I post under a different name other then what the bet stipulates it will not allow the post . I believe it can be done by verifing the e-mail address. What do you say since I believe you ,being a former whatever is the one who lacks trust.

Amat will make the CIF playoffs this year in Football.

Donkey,
Try spell check.

Damn , never mind this Donkey (ass) is just plain ignorant. Has not said one constructive thing in reguards to HS football. He is all about bashing Amat but never mentioning his school? From his mentality he may have never finished school. Could be a continuation student from the sounds of things. Never Cocky just always proud to be a Lancer despite the down two years I played there. This years team will surprise people, trust me.

Donkey,
What's your family business, pulling carts?

Donkey Boy-it went from 3-7 to 1-9 tp 0-10 and now you want to make a bet setting .500 as the mark. Which is it DB? This isn't Vegas and you don't get odds. Your 0-10 to his 5-5? Straight up bet with Amat73 at your projected 0-10.
not so confident now?

wouldnt

congrats to piggybacking off the family business. And as for my dislike for amat happens to come from the cocky people who blog here like yourself and think they have a good program when they suckkkkkkkkk

if amat doesnt go at least 500 your new name will Moron Amat73. Deal? You are from amat so I know right now you would keep up the bet. Cant trust a former lancer.

I say Amat gets a win in one of those first two games. they will come home 1-1.

0-10?

C'mon, That's a silly prediction. let's try to be sensible.

My crystal ball says BA;

1.Loses first two-(OL & LO too tough).

2.Wins next six-(no powerhouses here)

3.Loses last two (although close games)

I set the over/under at 6.

~Football Jones

TO: 0-10,
Coming from you MacDonalds would be your first option, but I just happen to be working for my dads company known as the family business. I will work until I start college and no one works you harder then your own parents. Yes monday thru Saturday =hard work, something you most likely know nothing about. I am allowed a day off and I knew you would bash my post with your idiotic ways of thinking. Your hate for Amat is out of pure jealousy, part because you could not attend our great school and part because you possibly could not afford it. It is true that our Lancer Football Squad was not very good the last two years I played there but this team has a very good chance this year. if you are going to post 0-10 please tell us your HS school of choice.

0 - 10 donkey boy,
Let's make a bet . Since you are so sure AMAT will be 0 - 10 this year let's bet if we at least go .500 this sason you will forever post under your new given name Donkey Boy. You name the stakes if we don't go at least .500 .

you get a day off during the week working at mc donalds? interesting. Everything starts and ends with your o-line and since its suspect amat is going to have a lousy year. Big difference between being polished in practice and executing in games. 0-10 here you come!!

Stopped by yesterday morning on my day off to watch the Lancers practice. First off Bowens is there and does not have a cast on which is a good sign. Secondly what a big differance in the coaching staff and the drills they were running in comparison to the last two years of (well we all know). Skill postion players looked impressive, the O-line looks questionable but manageable. Overall the practice was very intense and the Lancers look to be polished. If that O-line comes around this could be one of the better Lancer teams, but then again you cannot do any worse then those last two years of us. There will be a winner this year over in Lancer Country, This '09 team is the real deal and I kind of felt that as we did our final walk thru with these guys after our game vs Loyola they are a good group of players and I see them hungry for this new staff.. Come get me Bashers.

KONK,
How do you know it's not DONK posting that stupidity? Sure looks like his writing.

it just went down to 0-10 starting with the *** kicking amat will get against los osos

stupid logic ,
On an earlier post our beloved donkey boy stated AMAT would go 1 - 9 . Now on his latest post he has us at 3 - 7 . Hence from 1 win to now 3 wins is an improvement . Go back to your high school and take a remedial math class at night because evidently they didn't teach you very well went you were there as a student.Maybe they will waive the regestration fee since they did you no favors when you attended in your earlier years. To conqed nation alias MENDOZER , come on now can't you do better then that . With that terrific education you received at la I would think you could have been a little more creative.

another brainless amat grad most likely

"I have a spelling checker
I disk covered four my PC.
It plane lee marks four my revue
Miss steaks aye can knot sea.
Eye ran this poem threw it.
Your sure real glad two no.
Its very polished in its weigh,
My checker tolled me sew.

A checker is a blessing.
It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
And aides me when aye rime.

Each frays come posed up on my screen
Eye trussed too bee a joule.
The checker pours o'er every word
To cheque sum spelling rule.

Bee fore wee rote with checkers,
Hour spelling was inn deck line,
Butt now when wee dew have a laps,
Wee are not maid too wine.

And now bee cause my spelling
Is checked with such grate flare,
There are know faults in awl this peace,
Of nun eye am a wear.

To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should be proud,
And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
Sew flaws are knot aloud.

That's why eye brake in two averse
Cuz Eye dew sew want too please.
Sow glad eye yam that aye did bye
This soft wear four pea seas."

i am an amat sttudennt i am edumcated. i speeel very well

"KONK" Nation

Come on dude. He's just a kid. He probably post's just like kids text these days.

Konk, if this is all you got (in trying to put down Amat) then that's a sorry take...especialy for an "adult."

You can do better than that....

Okay, attention all bloggers, parents of the SGV!...

Mendozer over here has just debunct your "higher education" excuse as far as the WHY you'd want to send your kid to Amat.

Look at his post. He can't spell, puncuate, hell...he can't even complete a thought.

I guess the more competent, more certified public school teachers are the better route to go after all.

im a bishop amat football player n yes we have done bad in the past but we have a new coach with way more experinace then the one we had. all he did was call trick plays an didnt work on a bread in butter. This upcomming season will be a much more improved. with are talent n staff we can do wat bishop amat is know for. and that is winning

Wow, I was unaware Amat played weak ranked teams in CIF. How does that happen?

How do you go from D1 to D5 if in fact you're suppose to be a powerhouse? Sounds like CIF made some bad decisions or it was there intent to weaken the field

BA versus SGV

People let’s face reality; BA has consistently fielded the most 'raw' talented teams in the SGV for the past 30 years.

Very few SGV public schools today can match their talent on the field...South Hills, Maybe DR?

However, BA's problem is they don't seem to have quite ENOUGH talent to compete and win against other major PRIVATE programs...at least not recently.

For the past few years they've been stuck in a talent 'No Man's Land'; enough talent to beat-up on public schools in SGV, but not quite enough to compete successfully against PAC5..."Big fish in small pond"

We'll see how they fare this year with a whole new coaching staff.They definitely have the talent ...again.

It's in EVERYONES best interest that BA returns to prominence, it brings positive attention to SGV..."A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats"

Just An Observation...

~Football Jones

and Norm,

That second place team that Amat faced in the D5 CIF Final? At the end of the season MaxPreps had them ranked higher than the runner-up in the D4 final (who was a 3rd place team).

Interesting, isn't it?

Blowhard,

Where did anyone "put down" a program?

Here's what I said

"... It's not so much that "League Matters". Other than to decide who goes to playoffs. If you want to test yourself, your *schedule matters*..."

I also said,
"...If your league is down and you have to play the Ganeshas, Pomonas, Wilsons, Nogales, Rowlands, etc of the valley...
than
"...go schedule...another *good* school in Divisions HIGHER than your own..."

We did that...did you?

And I know that you don't want to play that numbers game with your whole ENTIRE schedule again do you? Because we can. Fair warning, that's what always brings you to your knees saying that "facts don't matter!"

Be careful what you wish for ... you just might get it! Those are the rules!

Joey

Keep trying to put down other programs, but memory tells me a D4 team taught you a little bit about the VVL.

Let’s see, who you played in your quest for a D5 Championship…

Didn't someone state “A Championship is a Championship”

Calvary ranked 538
La Puente ranked 470
San Marino ranked 353
Bishop Mont ranked 237

Wow, league or pre-season really set you up for a tuff playoff run. Most JV teams could compete in this set up..

Playing by the rules yet?

improving from 3-7 to 1-9 is improving huh? love that amat logic

donkey boy,
Even in your eyes we are improving . What happened to the 1 - 9.

DB still uses that thick pencil and takes the short bus to school.

Someone call 911, spell check fool laughed his face off!!!!

Congratulations, you passed the test. Your dyslexia seems to be working fine, you understood what I was writing about.

Spell check? Try using the shift key every now and then. Oh wait, you haven't learned to use CAPS yet! Sorry, I forgot you still write on the wide ruled paper with the the little dashes in between.

stright??

lmao when you want to say someone has no brains you might want to learn to spell correctly. Just another fine example of that amat education

Donkey,
Saw your family portrait on a box of Borax Soap, nice pic. Why do donkeys walk in a stright line? Because they like looking at hairy @$$e$.

the only bowl amat will win is the toliet bowl

as soon as amat wins something this decade in football then you can run your smack. keep playing those tough teams and we can all laugh with those 3-7 seasons you keep having

If you hate us so much why are you even HERE? Face it, if it wasn't for us, you'd have NOTHING to say. Go to another thread donkeys.

Joe,
That is my point. You named a bunch of DB/RB's who had big offers and Amat put the football in their hands a lot...VICTORY! Feed your stud. Give your best athlete the football.

Do you think Amat will win the Reebok Bowl (or the equivalent) again?

When was the last time one of our SGV local H.S. (other than Amat) headed up north to get on the same field and play powerhouse Concord De La Salle in a football game? This speaks volumes about who Amat has played vs what our locals play. Well Bassett went to Hawaii how about the rest.? Challenge some real teams locals and stop just comparing yourself to Amat, then come in and run your Amat smack.

Flip the 3-7 around. Nuff said.

yea joe amat, your second place team (you know the team you faced in the finals after whomping on them all three times in league) would get stomped by every number one, maybe number two team in every local division above your - he** I venture to say - amat would have a tough time by every local #1 or 2 team BUT we will never know cause amat doesn't get involved with most of the local teams YET the rest all the laurels on the national ournament. Why don't you tell us all why amat got invited? yes - it is invite only, but it isn't brain surgery why amat was asked. i know it's football season but you cannot convince anybody outside of amat, that it makes any sense why the fottball team is DIV.1 (where they should be) and baseball is DIV IV (hell no should be there)

yea joe amat, your second place team (you know the team you faced in the finals after whomping on them all three times in league) would get stomped by every number one, maybe number two team in every local division above your - he** I venture to say - amat would have a tough time by every local #1 or 2 team BUT we will never know cause amat doesn't get involved with most of the local teams YET the rest all the laurels on the national ournament. Why don't you tell us all why amat got invited? yes - it is invite only, but it isn't brain surgery why amat was asked. i know it's football season but you cannot convince anybody outside of amat, that it makes any sense why the fottball team is DIV.1 (where they should be) and baseball is DIV IV (hell no should be there)

No switching at all. In fact COMPLETELY consistent.

Go back and notice the emphasis on a teams *pre-league* schedule. If your league is down and you have to play the Ganeshas, Pomonas, Wilsons, Nogales, Rowlands, etc of the valley and only venture a good bike ride to face a playoff opponent -then be like West Covina and go schedule a Mater Dei or another *good* school in Divisions HIGHER than your own.

If you're going to try to be the best, or claim to be the best, at some point you've got to play somebody that is close to being the best. COMPLETELY consistent.

It's not so much that "League Matters". Other than to decide who goes to playoffs. If you want to test yourself, your *schedule matters* Plus, there is still also plenty of debate and evidence that even though you say "League matters" , with comparative scores and wins by league opponents, the Del Rey league was a much tougher league than anyone who failed to travel outside the SGV fishbowl is willing to recognize.

But those facts, apparently "don't matter".

league
joe is typical of amat fans who choose to look at only one side of everything. this side that favors amat. its the norm here on the blog.

its amat fans like you cocky and arrogant that make us dislike amat

To quote Joe Amat -- Go ahead and stick to the D11 Valle Vista league or the D7 Miramonte and San Antonio Leagues

>>>> Joe Amat, kind of like your Div. IV BASEBALL TEAM, funny how you switch when bragging about the Div. I Football team then when you justify the Division IV baseball team. How convenient and WEAK might I add.

The only reason these dopes post their trash about Amat is that they are former player/transfers who couldn't cut it on the team. They cried to daddy that they weren't going to play and left with their tails between their legs. Then when they went to their new school, they didn't play there either. The joke will always be on them.

Great info there Joe.

I love the pace, intensity, and enthusiasm at USC practices. I've never been to a practice that has as much constant chatter throughout practice... from players and coaches.

Here's their practice schedule for the next week. Good timing because Thursday, Aug. 21, 3:30 p.m there is a scrimmage at the Coliseum.

As for regular practices at Howard Jones Field ; Aug. 22, 3:30 p.m.; Aug. 23, 10:30 a.m.; Aug. 24, no practice.; Aug. 25-27, 4 p.m. Then off to Virginia.

Howard Jones field is located in the northwest corner of campus, next to baseball’s Dedeaux Field and the McDonald’s Swim Stadium. The best places to enter are Entrance 6, 7 or 8 off Vermont between Jefferson and Exposition. You can park in Lot 1, which is accessible at Entrance 8, just off of Vermont Ave

There are no bleachers although some bring chairs. I prefer to stand so you can move between fields (there's a field and a half and the defense usually practices on the short field with the offense and full team on the big one. Plus, if you stand you can get out a the way of players from drill to drill...oh, and stay away from the horn! Make sure you bring a picture ID - they keep track of attendees (they do that now because of compliance and keeping low-lifes and runners away - you fall in neither category, right?)

Finish the night at El Cholo. I'm a Crab Enchilada guy myself. And have a cerveza for me.

picker,

I didn't "pick and choose" any games. O-cat did when he said, "...I could see other schools in your area competing with some of those schools..." and "...the emergence of schools like Diamond Ranch, Los Altos, Charter Oaks, etc.... ..."
I was merely comparing the schools in the area that he was referencing.

And I'll take 240-176 with our style of play against that kind of schedule any year. Average teams don't beat Mater Dei or CIF Champions in the same year and certainly don't blow out quality programs like Glendora, Charter Oak, and Damien. Good teams do. The 6-4 record was as much a function of playing teams like Valencia, Servite, Santa Margarita (along with those I mentioned) as anything else.

Joe Amat

You memtioned earlier some intersting stuff regarding the USC football program.

I have often wanted to go over to the campus and watch some of their open practices.

Can you shed some light on when and where to go, days of the week they practice, parking etc..?

Any info would be great. Thanks

Or would you rather line up against a ranked school every week, against schools chock full of D1 players (that are also being recruited), with a few games in front of 5-10,000 fans?

and get your ass kicked like last season? lol

Observentcat,

I am not sure about your Monrovia score as Amat is 2 wins 1 loss all time to your Monrovia and I too was at that game but the field. I will give you that 1981 Monrovia team was very good and the were tied 21 - 21 into the 4th when Monrovia drove on Amat and won 28 - 21. However, I would not call that a blow out and Amat was in command most of the game. I believe your great back Paul Hewitt was in that game - strong runner.

Amat also played a great Muir team but pulled that one out 7 to 6 against another great runner DeDe Moore.

Since that is Amat's only loss to the Cat's I am not sure of your info.

J

Joe Amat,
Talent wise, the 2005 Amat team was a very good team, I think they were on par with some of your teams from the glory days, the problem that year seemed to be mental dicipline which led to letdowns against teams you should have beaten, if you hadn't lost that coin flip to go to the playoffs there was a decent chance you guy's might have made the title game. I believe Jonathan Cornell [spelling]
and a couple of other starters from that year's team lived in the West Co district, we sure could have used them that year.

Really?

The "good football schools" they beat 96-16 or the ones that won't even schedule? You know who they are. The one whose coach says they won't play because he's afraid of losing the players they do get or the one that Amat 3rd stringers transfer to and start for? Which of those "good football schools" are you talking about?

The programs that you can play powerhouse schools like Rosemead, Nogales, El Rancho, La Serna, Ganesha, Pomona, Wilson, and the like?

Or would you rather line up against a ranked school every week, against schools chock full of D1 players (that are also being recruited), with a few games in front of 5-10,000 fans?

Those playoff bus rides ALL the way to the other end of the San Gabriel Valley will be great exposure and memorable road trips. Go ahead and stick to the D11 Valle Vista league or the D7 Miramonte and San Antonio Leagues (although I do give props to West Co for having Mater Dei on their schedule for a couple of years-and stepping up in the preseason). We'll get to settle a couple battles on the field this year, so that's good. No predictions other than I'm sure we'll be prepared with a coaching staff that has former head coaches, D1 players from top NCAA programs, multiple SGV and CIF Players of the Year, NFL players, and CIF Championship experience on the sidelines.

You're right. No advantages anymore.

observantcat,

i wonder about some of your comments that seem to be a bit off base. you say amat lacks pure speed when i think the amat 4x100 relay team was in the division finals this past season and everyone on that relay is a returning football player. also, you say amat football was built in the 70's and lasted until the 80's yet the program has 2 DI championships to speak of in the 90's. i don't quite know where your facts come from but they seem to be flawed. i think you've been posting regarding wilson. now i have to wonder about your information regarding that circus. nonetheless, your comments regarding bishop are baseless.

joe joe joe
Why dont you always tell the whole story? I looked up that amat season and the aggregate score for the entire season was 240 points for and 176 against. I love the fact you " pick and choose" the best games and don't look at the entire picture. Why does that Amat logic not shock me. That point differential explains the 6-4 season and a slightly above average team. Nice try however.

Joe Amat:

Even when you guy's were at of your game back in the mid 80's your the Monrovia High school Coaching staff had to beg you guys to have a pre-season game in which your team was at the top of its game I believe you were rank in the top 5 in the state at the time.....I attended that game and Monrovia High Blew you guys out at Bishop Amat. I dont remember the score but it was over 30 pts. I think the same would happen with John Muir, Monrovia, Charter Oaks, South Hills, any team with speed would compete naturaly and win most of the time. I think that Bishop Amat has failed to lure in the Best running backs the East San Gabriel have to offer. Great Linemen weak secondary's. Teams like Crespi went from Div. 10 to Div. 1 and teams like Monrovia game them hell a couple of years ago. But all in all I hope you guys do get it together otherwise you will lose face in your area if that hasn't already happened.

my bet is they dont get back there because amat can't recruit like it used to be able to. there are other good sgv football schools to go to.

Now there you go you made me do it...that "average" 6-4 team beat the CIF D1 champions, Mater Dei, and three of SGVs best (Charter Oak, Glendora, and Damien) by a composite score of NINETY-SIX to SIXTEEN. And WE were average? Throw in the St. Paul victory and the point differential becomes 126-31. Average? That actually hurt us a bit as the worst loss of that season was a letdown against a very beatable St John Bosco team when we gave up 17 pts in the 4th quarter. Then that Servite team was 10-3, went to the semi's and they got us on the road pretty good. They got us back for the 34-14 thumping we gave them at Kiefer the year before. So I'd hardly call that team average.

That was all when this years seniors were freshman. Not that much "white flight" has occurred since then has it O-cat?

No, not that long ago were we pretty darn competitive in DI against the best and dominant in the valley. My bet is we get back there soon enough.

Competing with the best that the highest level has to offer and being in the conversation with teams that win championships is where you want to start. Winning it all depends on a bunch of factors-some you can control, some you can't. What I'm convinced of is that at least now we'll control the things we can control - that hasn't been the case in the past couple years.

Now that was a while ago, but it wasn't that long ago that (***this years seniors were freshman***) when we beat Mater Dei and Loyola (who went on to win CIF) in league and *destroyed* the top locals as well as St Paul. Pretty decent year by anyones standards

how do you go from winning championships to talking about winning regular season games when your team is having a down DECADE? you cant talk out of both sides of your mouth joe. either your standard is championships or its not. That team you talked about was a very average 6-4 including a 37-5 pasting at the hands of Servite but nice spin joe. Admit that amat has been down for over a decade and the losing is going to continue.

the only thing that shines at amat is the domes of the large bellied amat fans with the receeding hairlines

Ruiz is a nice little 8th grade athlete who really knows how to play. he's a great baseball player and a skilled QB. Pac5 worthy- a LONG ways away, believe me.

You're comment about the "other schools in the area being able to compete, brings a chuckle. I know you spent most of your time on Galettis blog, so I'll spare everyone else the repeated details and just tell you to "look it up" when it comes to the specifics on how the "better programs" in the SGV fare in our matchups. (Of course except the two that refuse to schedule and have all but admitted it's because they can't compete.) I will however help get you up to speed on what's really been happening on this side of the 605.

It's interesting that you say the program died in the mid'80s when 85 is when we began a string of 11 consecutive League Championships against the likes of Mater Dei, Servite, Santa Margarita, Loyola, etc. and DI championship in 92 and 95. So domination went a bit beyond the mid'80s and was competitive at the highest level until the previous coaching regime.

Now that was a while ago, but it wasn't that long ago that (***this years seniors were freshman***) when we beat Mater Dei and Loyola (who went on to win CIF) in league and *destroyed* the top locals as well as St Paul. Pretty decent year by anyones standards. So it's a not so distant a past. The problem is that the past 3 seasons can erase a lot of that. I tend to think that most of those problems are gone and have been replaced with an experienced, quality staff that has a plan of attack that has been proven. Now we'll see if that translates to a turnaround on the field.

To all the Bashers:

See you at the games when Amat is winning this year. Yes you know who I am talking about. Bandwagoners that will be wearing our Amat colors when this teams is winning this season. You come out of the woodwork like the cockroaches you are and then start saying I told you so. Fair weather fans are what we call you as well. 1-9 you are full of shi-

Donkey Boy,
Now doesn't it feel better that you are letting some of that anger out. I must say you would now all about someone being cocky since you always seem to be on your knees. Even if we do go 1-9 you will still get the crap kicked out of you again at least once. Obsevantcat are you saying we did nothing in the 90's and early 00's . Look it up and find out. Since we have DRanch on the schedule we will find out who is in a fantasy world . Look up also what we have done to your powers the last few years. Know your history on us before you speak. The past 2 down years were a fluke. We are back and WE WILL SHINE.

this school has become just another football program. Having some old schoolers still believing that Amat has a chance to truly compete is a Lancer fantasy

couldnt have said it better myself

amat dad
spoken just like a cocky amat fan would.

reality donk
my team is anyone who kicks the crap out of amat so last year i had 7 favorites and this year i am going to have 9

Joe Amat:

What is this kid Ruiz all about?...to be honest with you, BA doesn't even belong on the field with those schools you guys are talking about. I could see other schools in your area competing with some of those schools...The truth of the matter is that BA lacks pure speed and these other schools have much more access to the speed positions for recruitment. The name BA for football was built in the 70's and lasted until the mid 80's, now with all of the White flight in the area this school has become just another football program. Having some old schoolers still believing that Amat has a chance to truly compete is a Lancer fantasy that may never come true with the emergence of schools like Diamond Ranch, Los Altos, Charter Oaks, etc.... Trust me, not putting any of your players down, but with all of the coaching power over at Amat, you would have thought they would be more compettitive with these pac 5 schools but thats simply not the case and with thinking that there is another QB better than Thropay convices me more that Amat will never see the time of day in the playoffs.
Here's the Formula:

Put Thropay over the center and find you some guys that can break past the safety's and you have yourself a winning team. Otherwise dont count on it.

My only concern is we need to start working some of those defensive "studs" on offense. Let them get some reps. I understand starting off and maybe working them in but hopefully not too late. On average our WR are about 5'7. Is there no one else available. It will not matter who is QB if we cannot get to the ball

we'll never know because Donkey Boy will just drive-by and hate without ever saying who he supports or where he's from.

1-9,
if Amat does go 1-9 this year, i hope its your school or your kids school that they open a can of whupA$$ on.

doesnt matter what players play at amat this year they are going to suck. 1-9

We also Beat Mater Dei when Barkley was a freshman. Threw lots of Blitzes at him that nite in La Puente. The Year we beat Mater Dei and Loyola and still did not get in the playoffs. So it goes to show just because you are polish as a underclassmen does not mean you are the best there.

Observantcat,

The freshman everyones talking about is this new football/baseball phenom named Rio Ruiz.

Sophomores like Barkley, Leinert, etc were very polished quarterbacks when they stepped in and their technique at the time surpassed their potential. Not so with Thropay. They also both worked with QB guru Steve Clarkson, who also schooled Rix. I'll roll the dice with Chris tutoring them.

Don-right on...as always. But I do remember a pitiful and overmatched Leinert performance as an underclassman against the Lancers, so I guess it worked out ok for him. We're not in a position to go thru quite as many growing pains as Rollinson at Mater Dei was at that time.

You have that right Don, At Amat you have to earn your stripes. How many All Star Lil Leaguers and Pop Warner JAA studs have come to Amat only to become non existant or just plain middle of the road players. Some do even make the baseball team. At Amat you face the best in Football,:(:(:(:( sad dont be, Pac 5 is no Joke.

You guys who are ready to anoint the Thropay kid the next coming of John Elway need to remember that a few snaps against Montclair or La Canada is waaaaaay different than facing some of the fronts Amat does.

Same with Ruiz. Travel ball, and Pop Warner, at any level of success, ain't Crespi and OH! Lou.

To those who commented on Thropay:

Not only is he not a Freshman (He's A Sophmore) That shouldnt be what holds him back from being a starter on your Bishop Amat's Varsity team. Matt Barkley took over the helms at Mater Dei and look where he is. Second, if you're depending on Chris Rix to revieve your QB situations you're already driving down the wrong street. I never thought he was a good choice to attend Florida State. Much to slow and way to inacurate for the recieving crew he had. I personally though he needed some counseling after leaving college. Back to Thropay,,This kid has the potential to be in the likeness of the Barkleys, the Leinarts, etc....Three good years as a varsity starter will do that for Amat. At Monrovia last year he did start as the JV QB and stayed on the field as the Varsity back-up. The few times he had his hands on the ball he threw for scores. Just My Opinion.....

Hagerty will play them all and look at all his poetential running backs. Play them in non league games and widdle it down to the best one-two come league play. These are very good problems to have Amat. Johnson is a good RB as well he did really well vs. ND last year. My pick right now is Seals and Gaise in the backfield. With that RB position so full I would not be surprised if Hags went to a wing T offense given that he does not really have a passing game. O-line would need to step up if the Wing T gets put in place. 0-line still a mystery as it stands right now.

In the past you could not play varsity football as a freshmen. Then they went to an age limit where you had to be at least 15 yo. Now most freshmen good football players are holdbacks coming in as 15-16 yo.

i'm not so sure seals is a feature type back. probably more effective as a goal line/ short yardage lead blocking fullback or tailback. he and pietro (spelling?) should both be great in that capacity. gaise (spelling?) should have a great year provided he's blocked for and stays healthy. the young kid anderson should help as well. running back shouldn't be a problem this year as there is depth there. i also hear the cornerback johnson is a decent running back. again, that position should be fine.

NY,

They did that with Brown, McCutcheon, Sermons, McCluskey, and more. Late in the year they'd just cut down the reps.

I think the staff is just leaving the competition open, much like USC does with their "Competition Tuesdays". At USC that practice day is where the starting jobs are won and lost. No spot is safe. The best man wins the position. Every week. That way the cream rises to the top - but brings others along with them. If all goes well, fewer players have to play fewer plays both ways. But the bottom line, as Herman Edwards says, "You...play...to...win...the...game". They'll do what they have to do - and if has to be Seals it has to be Seals. But maybe not. I wish Thropay could line up in the I and become that guy? Probably not enough breakaway speed, but down the line wouldn't having he and Rio in the backfield be interesting?

I do think Thropay has the most "potential" of the QBs, but like 72 says, has a ways to go to be a Pac-5 QB. But Rix can help in that area if the kid puts in the time and is patient. There's nothing wrong with not starting on opening day as a sophomore. He might play some series and ease his way in. Everyone is in so much of a hurry. Heck, Michael Jordan played JVs as a JUNIOR in high school.

It's just good to never say never (or always) so leaving the door open for the young freshman to play is fine, but as Justrab asked - no frosh at Amat has ever played - especially at QB. I hope Rios dad Rudy, is patient with the process too. I think he will be. If not no more baseball glove purchases from me! (and I do love the gloves)

Isn't Seals committed to UCLA as well? Why wouldn't Amat just ride that horse and put him in the backfield. You don't get a ride to UCLA unless you are a great athlete that can perform both ways at a high level in high school. That's what they did with Ralph Brown, right?