jaf is the biggest wacko

Again, this season, Don remains the one sane mind in this blog-world of wackos

fellow Alum,

I followed Donnie closely throughout his time at Cal and got a chance to see him live a couple times. Agreed - very nice collegiate career... and a Cal diploma to boot!

My point was if Donnie was 6'0" he might have been a prospect for the next level. With the advent of the West Coast Offense and taller "possession" receivers, the NFL is slowly moving away from "vertically challenged" players in the secondary unless they serve dual purpose as a lightning quick kick returner. This may be the predicament that Chapelle Brown finds himself in.

I've stood next to him and if McCluskey is 5'9" then... I'm pretty happy. I've been trying to tell people that I'm a couple inches taller for a long time !:?)

Joe Amat

Donnie McCluskey was about 5-9 and he had a wonderful career at Cal. He earned his degree and he is doing very well after football life :)

Rob Hertel(Los Altos)
Dennis Sproul(Los Altos)
Pat Haden(Bishop Amat)...Damn I know there is more...
Fill me in Joe...

More trivia.

Name the SGV QBs that have played in the NFL.

Donkey Boys parents: Mr. Ed and Frances the Talking Mule.

Donkey boy saw you in Shrek, great work, you were funny. Keep up the good work.

back to the barn huh? ok I will tell your mom you said hello.

What Happened to Amats former player Vincent Federico? I do not see him anywhere on the New Mexico Lobos Roster. Cody Neeley is there from Amat. Did Vincent give up his football career? Is he out due to injury. Joe Amat floor is yours?

Donkey-Boy

Please go back into the barn where it's safe.

You're getting out way to much in the sun and the sun-stroke is starting to set in real bad right about now.

great grandpa joe amat
I have said before my school is who ever is kicking amats ass that week. This week my team is los osos.

I remember Brown being a good athlete and saw him play hoops. He had a good football career at New Mexico, but he went undrafted and I don't see him on the Bengals roster.

http://www.bengals.com/team/Roster.asp

Did he latch on with someone else?

But as far as Los Altos goes, if Harwell plays like he did yesterday - he sure may have a chance. And cousin Chappelle - he's playing Big 12 football brotha' ( Dan Hawkins - love him! ) But 5'7" kinda hurts and the trend is to moving taller DBs. Kind of puts him in a pinch like Donnie McLuskey from Amat was at Cal

But you still might have a couple more in the next two years

Los Altos...
Travis Brown(Bengals)
Shaun Cody(Lions)

Hey Donkey-Boy with the stuttering finger - open to anyone - even your unnamed school.

Jason David - Charter Oak grad. Spot you another easy one - Shaun Cody - Los Altos.
Your turn, from your alma mater... oh... never mind.
Next

is there anything more boring than amat trivia? yes amat fans

JFR,

Nice !:?)

The quarterback IS the defacto leader regardless of perception or performance.

"Craft "led" UCLA in the first half.

Custer "led" the troops to the Battle of the Little Bighorn

You get the picture

JoeAmat, Your opening question was to lead, am I wrong? Just trying to touch all bases. P.S. Klan chowder, that doesn't mean baseball.

Aaahhh JFR... Trix are for kids!:?)

Here's another one - let's brainstorm.

Present NFL players from the SGV? I'll spot you Jason David, who was listed below.

Talent. Potential. Production.

Don't mistake the three. The player that plays will always be the one that best allows the team to win... on Friday.

After the previous couple of years, wouldn't it be foolish for an Amat coach to do otherwise?

Joe Amat,
That was a Trix question. As always you are a step ahead.

It would have been nice to see him develop under Chris Rix. Unfortunately he is not the only coach over at Amat. Hagerty has his own agenda and connections he has to deal with. Despite the talent he is going to put in his buddies kid.

Chris Rix was a Bishop Amat QB in '96 - '98, after which he committed to FSU. If I remember, we were located in the SGV back then as well.

A little trivia about his one year at Santa Margarita. He spent a portion of that season at wide receiver.

The judges say... Rix is the correct answer.

Joe Amat, Rix didn't play in the SGV. I protest!

didn't Rix finish his HIGH SCHOOL CAREER AT SANTA MARGARITA

Smith in 2000 was a great guess and Brian Harmon from Amat led SD St to a bowl game in '98. But I was going for Amats former QB and current QB coach, Chris Rix.

In 4 years starting for Bobby Bowden Florida State went to 4 straight bowl games (though he didn't get to play in one of them -OUCH!- but that's beside the point!:?) The final one was in 2004 (3 years after Smiths Fiesta Bowl blowout of Notre Dame)

I think he learned a bit from the winningest coach in NCAA D1 history and his tutoring by Steve Clarkson of Air7 fame. I was looking forward to him working with a raw 6'5" sophomore and seeing how he developed against the toughest competition around. Especially under a staff that wouldn't be opposed to throwing the ball around if a QB were to eventually develop. Hags has shown that to be true in the past.

Of all the skill positions, QB is scrutinized against the quality of competition the most because so much of what they do cannot be measured in a combine. 40 time, vertical, squat, etc do not translate as much as they do with a RB, WR, DB, etc. The "look test" is not as tell-tale as it is for lineman. It's about what you do against what type of competition. So for all of the great QB's in the valley recently that have hailed from South Hills and threw for miles of yards, and CO/LA Qb's that won championships (Aguilar. Leadingham, Perri, etc) there is always that "shadow of a doubt" on whether they can do it at the next level.

EXPOSURE is a huge reason a parent may move their gifted athlete to a school that "gets" more....grantid, if the athlete is superb they will get looked at anywhere, colleges, etc. will find them. But, for some parents, the only way they can send their kid to college, is by scholarships so they need those colleges to find & look at them...but I do agree, most kids want to stay with their childhood pals and teammates.....

Donkey-boy

Please don't post using my name ok.

The answer to the trivia i think would be SANTA MARGARITA"S

CHRIS RIX

Will the Kid have to commit to wearing a robe and hood to go along with going to CO for football.?

What is the connection with the best players at Amat ending up at UCLA and not USC?.. Are the players at Amat not good enough to get a call from The Trojans Brass.

Charter Oak also had a kid a few years back named Jason David who played 4 years at washington state won a superbowl title with the colts. So yes the kid can be recuited and do well at CO.

Is the trivia answer Chris Rix or Paul MacDonald?

sevenduece, He blew his knee out two years ago and is 2nd string safety, he did play in the thrashing over virginia.

Prime suspect:

I admire your reasonableness ... and most of your reasoning.

The fact is most parents who want to move a kid to a school with a competitive football or baseball or basketball program will find a way to do so. Amat is certainly one option, but there are kids everywhere who have been moved for one reason or another. The sad thing is that most of these parents aren't doing it for the right reasons.

Reason #1: Junior will earn a scholarship because the coaching/competition/exposure is better

Reason #2: Junior will develop as a human being and a student-athlete better in a more competitive environment

Reason #3: Junior will get to play the position Dad thinks he ought to play, (when Dad thinks he ought to play)

Reason #4: Junior's exploits will get more attention at a prominent school and Dad/Mom can play the big shot

Reason # 5: Better educational opportunity

These are 5 of the dozen or more common reasons to move a kid from one school to another. What's too bad is that #'s 1, 2, and 5 are commonly declared while the more common 3 and 4 are almost never heard out loud.

As far as kids competing for their local schools, most parents are just as happy having Junior be the big frog in his local pond as they are having him battle and strive three years for a one year crack at starting. If you polled the kids, an even higher percentage of them would be happy playing with their childhood pals.

Was it Smith playing for OSU Beavers out of Glendora, I could be wrong with the name.

good grief has a very valid point. the amount of exposure a player gets at amat dwarfs the other schools in the area. didn't charter oak have a great kid some years ago? if i'm not mistaken, his name was harris. i believe he went to usc. how did he fair there? is he still there? just a thought i had as i was writing.

Trivia Time!
Name the last SGV Quarterback to lead a NCAA Division1-A school to a bowl game.

good grief
another amat donk. Amat is not the only school he will get seen at fool. If the kid has talent he will get seen at Charter Oak. And at CO he will have a chance to win some games unlike at Amat

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Bad decision by his parents. No patients with a program. As a sophmore and 6'5" to boot, he should have waited in line and been a good team guy while reaping the benefits later as he starts at a School like Bishop Amat. Josiah would eventually be playing and preforming at the highest level of play known as the Division 1 Pac5 Division. There are so many scouts scouting the league and non league opponents Bishop Amat plays. Orange Lutheran / Loyola / Crespi / Sherman Oaks Notre Dame / Los Osos / Chaminade / St/ Francis. His parents got led down the wrong road and his career may never recover....Nice going Dad!

They tried that in Orange County when Mater Dei, Santa Margarita and Servite all went into public school leagues.

All hell broke loose and that's what eventually led to moving Orange Lutheran into a Catholic League (which had some opposition) and moving JSerra into the leagueLONG before they were ready to compete at that level. That was the creation of the all OC Trinity league and the "ousting" of Loyola and Amat.

Can you imagine the whinning if they ever did put Amat in a local SGV league? Then it would be like baseball,"A div. 5 ring doesn't mean a thing, they should be up in Div. 1"!

looks like 10 ass kickings coming to me for amat

Don,
thanks for your reply.

Actually you further my point because the open enrollment policy enables the "recruiting" intentionally or not. The recruiting is and always will be done "under the table" by both public and private schools ala open houses, the "feeder" programs, other parents, etc.
Hell, once schools and fans become "creative" the internet will be sure to open new facets of recruitment.

I'm not anti-Amat, I just feel that the current atitude is "Amat or the neighbor school down the street..." meanwhile you have Tommy "4.4" Cogburn playing against Mountain View on Friday night along side players who aren't near his level.
The situation at San Dimas looks a little silly.
Aaron Harris at BP was ridiculous.
Mike McDonough playing QB(better suited LB)AT Covina?!?
Don't even get me started on the Tim Gilmore situation, don't whether to laugh or pull my hair out...
Duarte has a bunch of track stars with 5-6 245 or 6-1 215 lineman blocking for them playing against Azusa...
those same Duarte track stars could be better football players with better coaching.

The SGV could have a serious league if the SGV got serious.

South Hills
Los Altos
Charter Oak
West Covina
Diamond Ranch
Damien
Glendora

...heck throw Amat in and you have an upper division league, this would all be in the next 6-8 years of "stocking" of course.

Shorten it to
LA
CO
SH
Damien
BA

...even better.

AHC.
EVERY team on Amat's schedule is ranked in the Top 20 in their preseason poll. I'm certain no one else can make that claim. THAT'S competition.

#1 Los Osos
#3 Orange Lutheran
#6 West Covina
#10 Damien
#2 Diamond Ranch
#10 St. Francis (Western Division)
#11 Chaminade (Western Division)
#16 Loyola
#2 Crespi
#19 Notre Dame (SO)

Congratulations. now you have two AA meetings to go to!

Competition in order to compete at the highest level...DONT GO TO AMAT

Don,
YOU are this boards voice of reason, and should be the official arbiter of all disagreements/discussions/debates.
Nice job!

AHC is free:

What you see as “cockyness”, I see as pride.

I'd just as soon not consider anything as toxic as hating a school or it's teams or it's fans. Too much wasted energy.

Good luck with the club.

Prime suspect:

Your point is taken although I am a long time advocate of “open enrollment”, allowing parents to enroll their kids in any school in any district that would have them. This of course is not “recruitment” which would be the active role of the school or the school's representative seeking out and soliciting talent which I don't believe happens.

The fact of the matter is you would be hard pressed to find a school that doesn't have kids from outside the area/district in attendance. Some of them play sports. At some schools, Charter Oak, South Hills, and Los Altos among others, families have sought out competitive athletic programs Other schools have kids who may have had security issues at their neighborhood school and looked around for a safer learning environment. Good for them all, I hope they and their families find what they want.

As far as the Mission Viejo and Poly thing goes I can tell you that the Long Beach Unified School District allows students from the entire district to enroll at the High School of their choice; the district also welcomes students whose parents work in the district to enroll in the LBUSD. For some reason, kids who like football and track end up at Poly, (the better baseball players seem to favor Lakewood). FWIW, I have a pal who lives in Lakewood, within the LBUSD and works in Long Beach as a cop. He sends his some to Los Alamitos.

The JAA, Travel BB, club soccer things were all fun for the kiddies. I tried to not take any of them too seriously.

Enroll at CO if you are a racist. also Cameron Deen , if he was that great why does he not have a commitment yeat to a college. I dont see any takers yet. Let me guess he is leaving his options open. He is a D7 QB at best and plays low level competition. Heck is Blake Tillis is QB'ing Hampton, I guess Deen is going straight to the NFL.

HEY Rchk
CAN't you man up (UNLESS YOUR A LADY) and stop blaming "dirty play" for your misfotune at losing to BIG CO. It's ok to lose to the most sucessful team in the East Valley.

Yeah, CO should be in D-1 if you want to talk higher level of competition. They beat Orange Lutheran, Crespi in passing league. Let's see how AMAT does against them. HA

Competition in order to compete at the highest level...

http://rivalsradio.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1135&CID=831860

If you can't handle it, transfer out...

AHC
Sign me up. I am no longer am rooting for amat.

AHC

What a joke. You now have two people in you're club. One of them is a clown (you) and the other one is a Jack-Ass (Donky Boy).

I only wonder which one of you is the president of the club ?

Don,
but you see, that isn't the point.
The point is that if the SGV put stock or rather stocked only a few programs namely 3 or 4 including Amat, then we'd(the SGV) have more than just one "upper" division representative.

But until the SGV get's rid of it's recruiting is a "dirty" word AYSO mentality this will never happen.

The days of the Los Altos, South Hills, Bishop Amat powerhouses can exist again, but unfortunately most of the area parents are living through there kids and never played a down in their life, so they don't know first hand that recruiting has been a vital part of the game since FOREVER!!

Do you think all of the Mission Viejo kids are from MV?

OR
all the LB Poly kids are from Long Beach?

Take your cues from travel team baseball, club soccer, POP WARNER, JAA, etc.

ahc
count me in. amat is full of donkeys and they suckkkkk

ahc
count me in. amat is full of donkeys and they suckkkkk

Don
What the hell do you care if you didnt go to amat? Do you not see the cockyness of the posters on this blog? They all think their s*** doesn't stink because they went to amat. Most of these posters are old farts who went to amat in the 80's when amat was actually good. They love to sit around the fire pass the beer the gas and talk about " the old times". I don't respect any of these amat fans because of this cockyness. I love to see them fall flat on their faces.

I am starting a new club. It's called AHC. Amat hate club. I am the president and membership is free. Sign up SGV football fans!!

is his new amat team cleats match co's colors so he went there. end of story.

Dear Anti-Amater's (AA),

Why is it so easy to bash the Lancers? Is your own hometown favorite so pathetic you would rather not mention them by name?

What is so threatening to you about Amat that you are willing to bounce your argument from sport to sport, decade to decade?

How can it be so personal? Were you frightened by a Lancer mascot as a child?

When will you understand that as our only Pac-5 Team, Bishop Amat is the #1 representative of High School sports in the area?

Now I am not an “Amat guy”, a grad, or a parent of one, just a football fan. As a matter of fact, as I have said here before, I was th at close to being a Swordsman. Brrrrrrrr. I do realize that the football at B A isn't what it was but I TOTALLY RESPECT the fact they refuse to back down and step down. Good on them. I also know that the HEART of the school, the former students, players, coaches, and parents continue to do what they can to return the Lancers to the top of the heap.

Maybe the new regime will bring a return to glory and maybe not. Either way, only a fool would bet against it in the long term.

Amat just isn't destined to play in a division with a lot of V's and X's.

Over Your Head,

Seriously, just for kicks go back and read ANY post from me last Sept, Oct, or Nov. According to many of the amat following at the time I was the Devil incarnate. You see, I am a realist - NOT an apologist. Go back and read. When we're bad - I will say we're bad. We are not what we once were. I've said that over and over. When we are not doing what we need to do to compete - I'll say so. Look it up. And for the last couple years we were BAD and were not prepared - I said so. Incessantly.

For a couple years before that we were a "good" team - not great. It'd be nice to be great. There are very few of those. None in the SGV right now. We have been... maybe we even could be again, but I'd settle for being as good as we can be - EVERY YEAR! Good teams win some games they should - maybe even win some they shouldn't (that's what separates them from average teams), but lose some they *could* win. We've done that.

But the way to fix it isn't to drop down and settle for mediocrity at a mediocre level. That doesn't tell you anything. It certainly doesn't teach kids anything. So yes, I agree.The way to fix it is to offer a product that attracts the kind of athletes necessary to compete and prepare them to so so. I think the new staff has a chance to do that. We'll see.

Hey Fred and Steve,...I mean "the shinning"!

At it again, eh?

Hey, how many of you pretty well know that about half the pro-Amat post monikers are actually FRED and STEVE?

Just post "I"...

show them that you aren't that gullible or stupid.

You amat fans are hilarious. You brag about stepping up to play the best when you havent have a title contenteding team in what 13 years? Why amat would want to step up to beat the best when they havent have a team that can win those games. Amat doesnt have the horses to beat the pac 5 teams and hasnt had one in years. If 6-4 and 5-5 makes you happy more power to ya. If playing the big boys and having a .500 is a goal then you amat people are misguided as usual. Even though teams like Charter Oak Los Altos and South Hills are good programs and win titles, they know their place is in lower divisions. You Amat fans act like playing the big boys and getting your ass handed to you is something to brag about right Joe Amat?? If losing builds character than Amat must have a lot of it.

Joe Amat come now. You have been spewing that garabage about amat beating Damien, CO and Los Altos like its something to brag about. Lets see division one team able to recruit anywhere versus lower level division six and seven local teams who can recruit but on a limited basis. Amat is SUPPOST to win those games. Get off your high horse and admit that Amat is not the program it once was. It's time Amat drops out of Division One so it can compete because Lord knows its in over its head in Division 1

As always JoeAmat stands above us all as the smartest man on this blog, not to mention the voice of reason. Some of the mentions on this thread have been the worst I've seen in a couple of years, mine included.

Hey JFR. You have me confused with someone else. I have NEVER lost to CO as a player, a coach or had any of my kids lose to CO. I just happen to live in the CO school district. My kids go to private school. And yes they have played CO and beaten CO on all levels.

Deal with it!

I think that it's the same principle in anything, when you have a choice compare yourself against the best- you do so. Whether it's academics, business, or on the courts or fields.

Yes we were invited to a prestigious tournament - and accepted. Didn't have to. Could have hosted our own and scheduled the likes of Duarte or University to be in our pool and get some wins. Or not! That would have really tested us, wouldn't it?. You don't like the 4 nationally ranked teams Amat played in the tournament? Fine. How's Damien, St Francis, and Loyola for choices? It sure beat playing Monrovia or Ganesha and Pomona - don't you think?. Maybe you can say Chatsworth?

And again - Division 5 is just a number, isn't it? I find it interesting that the D4 runner-up actually finished ranked *lower* than the D5 runner-up. So *maybe* D5 was tougher than you think anyway.

But "back to football". I think that what started that exchange (besides the random drive-bys and haters) was when "SLAKER" (I think he meant SLACKER) asked if BA could compete with the Chargers. It was pointed out that the last time they played... well... they did. So really, the scoreboard WAS doing the talking in that sense.

And the thinking is completely consistent in all sports. If you are going to claim to be the best then step up and play someone in the games that you can choose - and prove it. If you refuse to do that at some point during the season - you really have no room to talk. If you do and take care of business - then you can. If you get beat - tip your hat and say nice game. At least then you really know how you compare. Amat does this in all sports except for boys basketball. But that's a different discussion for a different day.

for reality chick - and your logic for baseball?? and please do not mention the ONE tournament, you were invited ONLY because you were a DIVISION WINNER but then again it was DIVISION 5 !!!!! BUT BACK TO FOOTBALL -- try being humble and let your "supposed" team do the talking

>>>sorry-I'd rather go 5-5/6-4 in D1 against the best than 8-2/9-1 in D6 and never know how I really stack up. That's the plight of the other valley schools.

sports and academics are two different topics. You were talking football. Enjoy that average team of yours this season

donk.
so who's better, the biochem major at an Ivy League school with a B average or the A-student who's a PE major at Cal St LA?
Average -according to what? Average compared to the best teams or the best of the average teams?
If you don't step out of the box and play the best at some point of the season-you'll never know?

reality donk.

you be happy with 5-5 and 6-4 with NO TITLE. Amat hasnt won crap in 13 years. What dumb logic. When a kid looks back on his HS career all he cares about is winning a ring. Just like your boys baseball team will winning that GIRLS title. It just goes to show you are happy with being average. Cant wait for the amat ass kicking this year to begin. donk!!

Here are Hags comments about this freds article

"His (Thropay's) father wasn't very clear with me other than he didn't like the picture of the quarterback situation and where his son fit in," Hagerty said. "I wished him luck, shook his hand and said goodbye."

It's not a huge surprise that Thropay left, but Hagerty was still disappointed.

"If parents do this all the time, they're headed for disaster," Hagerty said. "Nobody can guarantee everything.
"When you're in a competitive environment, you have to compete and you have to earn it. But the bottom line is if you're moving your kid around based on whether or not he's going to play, you're sending the wrong message. But hey, I wish him the best of luck."

Love that comment at the end. Its like Hags is bashing the kid for not competing then at the end saying hey i wish you luck. On top of that Hags is friends with the senior QB's family. No wonder the kid left. I would have too dealing with that bad situation. It's like a soap opera at Amat. As Amat turns will continue after this commerical message.

Time Will Tell

CO is D7 now (Southeast division). Which by the way is the same division that South Hills plays in. So, according to you SH QB Cameron Dean, has no chance at being seen by a major college recruiter, or getting a scholly to a major college???

That's right, I forgot, amat is the only place to play in the SGV if you're looking to play ball in college. I mean, why do the other SGV schools even bother to maintain a football program at all. What's the point, with the all mighty amat around, there should be no reason to enroll anywhere else.

Can't argue with 2000 years of catholic logic, can we???

when you're holding onto you're manhood.

Its comments like this which motivate us to rag on amat fans. get some class would ya jcaz?? donkey

sorry-I'd rather go 5-5/6-4 in D1 against the best than 8-2/9-1 in D6 and never know how I really stack up. That's the plight of the other valley schools.

and play behind the senior QB at CO? or be ineligible and play JV? whoever gives the team the best opportunity to compete NOW is the one that plays!

Judging from how many comments on this article, I'd say Amat fans are hurting. I say good job parents, removing your child from a no win situation. How can you compete when the head coach is friend's with the senior quarterback's family. You are in a lose, lose situation. Just another example of the politics at a private school. Who ever donates the most money or knows the right people wins. I say congratulations on seeing the light before your son actually gets in on the politics. You got out at the right time. Good luck.

D-1-that's a joke. Amat should be brought down a few pegs. They are just too proud to admit it. When you are getting slaughtered by all the other D-1 teams they should take a hint.

Such a shame, maybe you should go talk to Hagerty. If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk. It is amazing how this story has gotten so many people giving their stupid opinions. If it had been anyone else transfering nobody would care. Why can't people just do what they need to do and quit assuming things. And it wasn't because he wasn't going to start, anyone that knows anything about this situation knows this.

Hags called MR. Thorpays bluff and send them packing "What Josiah is not starting?" "He has always started since JAA". "He is 6'5" and if you want him here at Amat for three season then he starts or we leave". Hags "good luck to you" Love that Amat and Hags did not flinch in accomadating this type of parent. It will not be the first time or the last time head coaches get this put to them and Hags handled it with class and professionalism. Good for him. Amat will not e held hostage by this situation nor should ant other coach or school. I hope the parents of CO number two QB behind Allen dont move their kid because of this transfer.

As just a mom put it how many kids went on to next level last year out of the SGV, well you can count them on your hand and most likely do not remember them by name. So if you do the math and all you football parents think you have the next comming of some superstar that going to get you out of paying college tuition think again only so many get the opportunity and the success rate is very low. It is the parents who know they have that next level kid that do not move him or transfer him. The rest of these parents are all fools think their kid is the next great one. It has got to be like one in every 500 that gets to go to the next level. This being football well you know if you have a next level kid...dont kid yourself.

I dont know what all the fuss of this kid is about, he transfered and will still ride the pine. The only reson it is news is because of the school he left Bishop Amat. He is a sophmore and will not play at the varsity level this season. When and if this kid makes a name for himself playing football then I could see all the drama but until then this is just another Amat story an all you fools are buying into it. As one blogger noted it is only HS and the only so many get to the next level, so seeing that this kid had not done shi- lets leve it at that until he does. I do believe his parents are just misguided and do not know what they are doing. Leaving a D1 play in the PAC5 school to go to CO of all places is plain stupid. Their choice but they must have recieved bad advice or maybe they cannot afford to send him to private school. If he is as good as what the parents claim then they should have taken him to high profile school. CO is a D6 school for football. That is not where he is going to get noticed. Great steal for Farr tho.

breaking up-the difference is that West Covina is not going around talking about how they are as good/better than Mater Dei. they took their ass-whupping and faced reality.
All schools can "recruit, as evidenced by out-of-area players on each school, and BTW-the "smaller" public schools is a misnomer. Amats enrollment is under 1500 students. FAR less than Glendora, CO, SH. or LA.

A MUST-READ!

Where does our pride come from?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-hslbs31-2008aug31,0,4127742.column

Every time an SGV high school makes the LA Times, it's good for the entire area.

Breaking news

Man that sounded just as poetic as the stuff you read on the bathroom wall when you're holding onto you're manhood.

Anyway and for what it's worth, you seem to forget that it's always the low lifes who come in here and smack off on Amat that get these silly conversations going.

What are the Amat faithfull supose to do in this case ? I mean, let me ask you a fair question, what would you do or say to a person like "Donky Crap" or to Mr. "Drive-By who are always in here posting silly and stupid remarks each and every day ??"

You know the answer is quite simple here my good friend, and that is that if you don't want a big bad D1 school braging about knocking down the lesser programs in the valley, then don't mouth off right ?

It's pretty simple right...

hey reality check your the 5th grader that roams the playground and looks for the 2nd grader to beat up

amat is a private d1 school with the ability to recruit kids they should beat d6/7 charter oak south hills and los altos !!

hang your hot on beating smaller public schools becasue thats what champions do GUYYYY

im sure mater dei is still thinkin about the big west covina victory 2 years ago just like you hang your hat on beating charter oak

amats dead so deal with it

reality check...to sum up every person who has been affileated with amat in the last 8 years i would say this

JUST CUZ U WERE BORN ON THIRD BASE DOESNT MEAN U GO THROUGH LIFE THINKIN U HIT A TRIPLE

Wait a minute, Commie + Obama is REDUNDANT, not an Oxymoron, moron.

Dear Sanford and Son, Go back to collecting junk. I am paying the kid a compliment. Obviously you have not seen the talent potential. I will go back to my scouting.

My Pops was born in ARK and my mom in MIZZO. They were married here in 1955, does that make me a REDNECK you little a-hole. I hate people who hide behind a computer! FJR will tell you who I am when he covers my team.

mind your own business

why dont you mind YOUR own business? this is a blog and freedom of speech is welcomed here. if you dont like dont read it and just leave

it seems to me the people doing the bashing are those cocky amat fan. well amat fans your first a@@ kicking is coming vs los osos. get ready

I wonder how many of you out there know that coach Farrar's nephew on his team is AA. I love how one kid at a school made a very stupid inexcusable joke " by the way he is not caucasian " turns the school into a racist hotbed. I know this blog is 20% fact and 80% bashing, but try to know the truth before you shoot your mouths off.

all football dads at CO have a White uniform with a upside down cone shaped face cover....get it. Racism is very much alive in CO. The only AA that get a pass there are the ones that score TD's for them.

To just a mom,
Unless you have spoken to the child, I suggest you keep your comments to yourself. You have no clue what this child wants or the whole story behind this. The media does a great job of misrepresenting good people. So everyone back off and keep your opinions to yourselves.

Really pathetic - it's not what the kid wants, it's what the parents want - us parents, myself included, need to back off and let our kids be kids - for the love of God, it's just high school, many won't play in college and fewer still will make it to the Pros - whether we want to dream of it or not -

As a lover of prep football, I have observed several of Amat practices. Not knowing anything about the team, the one player that stood out was this tall quarterback, Thropay....He's got the stature and the arm of a Div I college football player...now, I will go back to my scouting

Reality czech,

Czech + Commie = Donkeyboy. One in the same.

BA FAN, stop playing old winning years and put up or shut up. See whats up and try to make the playoffs as a winner and not a coin toss. Perhaps players will stop jumping ship! Good luck and no more crying.

BA FAN, stop playing old winning years and put up or shut up. See whats up and try to make the playoffs as a winner and not a coin toss. Perhaps players will stop jumping ship! Good luck and no more crying.

Commie,
You are all wet. Calling CO a racist school. Check the enrollment figures. And we are a choke/racist school? We don't choke often. For your info the yearbook page you refer to was replaced during registration and available for all the students that purchased a yearbook and wanted a replacement. Check it out before you make accusations.

Donkey Boy-those were 4 productive posts that added great insight to the conversation.

don't forget about me

that's ok. let's make out.

sorry. i know i can be a real jerk sometimes.

reality czech,

as someone who's mentally disabled myself, I am offended by your use of the word "retarded".

This years seniors were freshman when the lancers destroyed CO, Glendora and Damien back-to-back-to-back. Then all three put their tail between their legs and dropped the series. This year Damien sacked up and renewed...Chargers?

Hey "COMMIES", the last time BA was a threat was so long ago the present players were in Jr All American. Talk smacck when you get back in the winners circle. Do you reall believe BA could compete wit Chargers?

Reality, I guess you didn't read it correctly, "the only people not crying are the BA backers." I was also up close for those two stompings that BA dished out.

Slaker,

I dont think commies meant the team or players I guess he meant the whole fricken CO Town. Obama for President.

Just
Freakin'
Reatrded-
i watched Amat smack CO twice up close and personal so don't lump me in with your commies.

commies+obama= OXYMORON

SGV FOOTBALL, REALITY CHICK, commies and all comers. I love how the team supporters who always are on the losing side to CO cry the LOUDEST! The only fans not crying are those from BA, go figure.

COMMIES, I really want to meet your SORRY A$$ in person pecker wood! Please make my dream come true JACK OFF! I would also love to debate you on your political views, you sound like a scholar.

HEY YOU RACIST DOGS, cohs is a well tuned school where a dumb kid did a dumb thing and you try to hang a racist tag on a good bunch of kids who play for a great coach 'Big LOU". The ONLY PROBLEMS THIS ISSUE BROUGHT OUT WAS THE SLEAZY BLOGERS LIKE THOSE WHO JUDGE WITHOUT FACTS.

and read what I wrote, "I sure wouldn't want to be judged for the rest of my life on ***what my dad did*** or what I said when I was 17."
I stand by that either way.

Chezh read what I wrote. I did say his Dad.. LOL

Chris never blasted Bowden-it was his dad. And if Chris did blast Amat on the way out (which I doubt), I sure wouldn't want to be judged for the rest of my life on what my dad did or what I said when I was 17.

hey smart move, why won't your DXXXI team schedule Amat again, if in fact your team is the winning program you declare it to be, just a thought, you guys crack me up, we open a big can of whup ass on you a couple of times, then 2 years later you want delete it from the record books, amazing........... and the talk that Amat recruits while implying Farrar,Bogan,Gano et al don't, even more amazing...buy a dog name him clue, then you'll have one. Amat 3 and 7 or 7 and 3.still head and shoulders over ANY team in the SGV

This is for Maturity etc.

Maybe he is a "Nice" guy now. It still does not account for years of being an "arse" and slamming Amat when he left, casue he got kicked out of Amat for cheating and for multiple violations. Its not different then when Rix's father blasted Bobby Bowden after he benched his innefective kid and said Bowden knows nothing about college football.

Next time before you stand up for someone and vouge for them think about what you are doing, maybe he is nice and changed. Still does not excuse his actions from the past and the things he did and say about Amat. Amat should be ashamed of letting him even on there campus after the crap he pulled in the past. So before you blast me again, you know nothing of the past and the infractions he and his family where part of. Hope the kid grew up, but still does not excuse any of his actions of the past against the school or coach's.

Great roll model Amat. Hire a guy who blasts your school on the way out when you do the right thing. Then Blast FSU when you get benched, saying Bowden cant coach etc.. LOL!!!