CIF preseason polls are in

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The CIF-Southern Section football polls are out. South Hills, Charter Oak, No. 1 and No. 2 respectively in Southeast; San Dimas checks in at No. 2 in Mid-Valley; Glendora No. 6 in Central, and Amat No. 11, surprisingly, in Pac-5.
To view the polls, click thread.

CENTRAL DIVISION
1. Colton (San Andreas) 9-4
2. Colony (Mt. Baldy) 12-2
3. Upland (Baseline) 7-4
4. Chaffey (Mt. Baldy) 9-2
5. Paloma Valley (Sunbelt) 7-4
6. Glendora (Sierra) 9-3
7. Los Osos (Baseline) 8-3
8. Cajon (San Andreas) 5-6
9. Damien (Sierra) 5-5-1
10. West Valley (Sunbelt) 6-5
OTHERS: Hemet (Sunbelt), 5-5; Etiwanda (Baseline), 6-5; Arroyo Valley (San Andreas), 7-3-1; Ayala (Sierra), 7-4; Chino Hills (Sierra), 6-3-1; Elsinore (Sunbelt), 5-6.

MID-VALLEY DIVISION
1. Paraclete (Olympic) 12-1
2. San Dimas (Valle Vista) 9-2
3. South El Monte (Mission Valley) 7-5
4. Temple City (Rio Hondo) 5-7
5. Monrovia (Rio Hondo) 6-6
6. La Puente (Montview) 7-4
7. Valley Christian/Cerritos (Olympic) 7-6
8. Northview (Valle Vista) 7-4
9. Duarte (Montview) 8-3
10. Rosemead (Mission Valley) 7-4
OTHERS: Covina (Valle Vista), 5-5; San Marino (Rio Hondo), 5-4-1; Whittier Christian (Olympic), 6-6; Azusa (Montview), 5-6; Gabrielino (Mission Valley), 2-8.

PAC-5 DIVISION
1. Long Beach Poly (Moore) 13-1
2. Orange Lutheran (Trinity) 10-2
3. Crespi (Serra) 11-3
4. Mater Dei (Trinity) 9-2
5. Edison (Sunset) 8-4
6. Mission Viejo (South Coast) 6-4-1
7. Servite (Trinity) 8-4
8. Los Alamitos (Sunset) 7-4
9. Newport Harbor (Sunset) 6-4
10. Esperanza (Sunset) 10-2
OTHERS: Bishop Amat (Serra), 3-7; Lakewood (Moore), 7-4; Tesoro (South Coast), 7-4; Notre Dame/Sherman Oaks (Serra), 11-1; San Clemente (South Coast), 8-3.

SOUTHEAST DIVISION
1. South Hills (San Antonio) 10-3
2. Charter Oak (Miramonte) 10-2-1
3. Diamond Ranch (Miramonte) 7-3
4. Schurr (Almont) 8-5
5. Santa Fe (Del Rio) 5-6
6. California (Del Rio) 11-2
7. Muir (Pacific) 9-3
8. Burroughs/Burbank (Pacific) 4-7
9. Alhambra (Almont) 7-4
10. West Covina (San Antonio) 6-6
OTHERS: Los Altos (Miramonte), 5-5; Burbank (Pacific), 3-7; Rowland (San Antonio), 3-8.


61 Comments

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bob bradstreet said:

Yay, W.Covina

wrong thread said:

la serna?? wrong thread

lancer said:

Let's talk Varsity Girls Volleyball 2008 season... watch out for double trouble Kelcie Randazzo and Karli Nelson, both exceptional players for the La Serna Lady
Lancers...2007 All-Area First Team and First Team All-League as Sophomores...Remember their names! Both of these athletes will represent the Lady Lancers with total class! Both are power hitters and Kelcie Randazzo as a Utility Player, both will totally dominate along with their teammates!

Let's go Lady Lancers!! YOU KNOW!!

old fart said:

earned the right to pursue several hobbies= old retired fart with too much time on his hands

Joe Amat said:

Now we gotta get some wins against that schedule. THEN we'll know where we stand.
We'll see.
Good legwork.
Ignore Donkey-Boy
Some people are just jealous that we have earned the right to pursue several hobbies and have high=speed internet that allows that search to be done a little quicker!:?)


Jhykron said:

amat sucksssss:

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if Amat went 0-10 or 14-0. I have no vested interest in them one way or the other.

BTW, I have several hobbies. Following football just happens to be one.

amat sucksssss said:

Jhykron needs a hobby. strength of schedule isnt going to mean a hill of beans when amat goes 0-10

Jhykron said:

Joe Amat:

There you go. You want to push your strength of schedule, tell people Amat's average opponent is ranked more than 100 places higher than the average opponent of any team in the valley.

Jhykron said:

Average opponents state ranking for the Montview League:

Azusa 857.5
Basset* 856.778
Duarte 710.4
Gladstone 838.9
La Puente 772.8
Sierra Vista 879.7
Workman 885.444

* - One of Basset's opponents (Firebaugh of Lynwood) is unrated, and not figured in the average.

Jhykron said:

Average opponents state rankings for the Sierra League:

Ayala 347.7
Chino 310.4
Chino Hills 294.5
Damien 241.8
Diamond Bar 334.9
Glendora 241.6

Jhykron said:

Valle-Vista Leage, average opponents state Ranking:

Baldwin Park 617.7
Covina 563.9
Ganesha 653.5
Northview 573.1
Pomona 696
San Dimas 619.9

Jhykron said:

Average opponents state rankings for the San Antonio League:

Nogales 525.9
Rowland 507.9
South Hills 462.6
Walnut 562.5
West Covina 441.1

Jhykron said:

Average opponents state rankings for the Miramonte League:

Bonita 385.6
Charter Oak 320.6
Diamond Ranch 294.6
Los Altos 263.2
Wilson 483.8

seek help said:

Joe Amat is a junkie? I knew something was wrong with you. They have rehab programs for junkies. Seek help quickly

ass kicking coming said:

looks like 10 ass kickings coming to me for amat

Joe Amat said:

Isn't MaxPreps/CalPreps great for info junkies?!?

Jhykron said:

Joe Amat:

Maybe go by opponents average state rating?

Los Osos #30
Lutheran #7
West Covina #286
Damien #262
Diamond Ranch #180
St. Francis #205
Chaminade #214
Loyola #74
Crespi #5
SO Notre Dame #97

Average Rank (lower means stronger schedule) 136

Hmmm... maybe I should run it on other valley teams.

Joe Amat said:

True - Top 10 would be better.

That would drop out our "easy games" against lower ranked teams like Chaminade, Loyola, and Notre Dame.

Ouch!

Jhykron said:

Actually, Los Altos, (with admittedly a much weaker schedule than Amat), can make that top 20 poll claim:

0. San Dimas (Mid Valley 1)
1. Northview (Mid Valley 6)
3. Ayala (Central 6)
4. West Covina (Southeast 6)
5. La Serna (Southeast 9)
6. Bonita (Southeast 14)
7. South Hills (Southeast 1)
8. Diamond Ranch (Southeast 2)
9. Charter Oak (Southeast 3)
10. Wilson (Southeast 15)

Come to think of it, since each division only has around 30 teams, any team in a league that (relative to their whole division) is solid from top to bottom could probably make the same claim.

... How the heck, in a year where the team has a whopping 2 returning starters, do they manage to get the #1, #2, and #3 rated team in their own division back to back to back. Sheesh.

Joe Amat said:

AHC,
EVERY team on Amat's schedule is ranked in the Top 20 in their preseason poll. I'm certain no one else can make that claim. THAT'S competition.

#1 Los Osos
#3 Orange Lutheran
#6 West Covina
#10 Damien
#2 Diamond Ranch
#10 St. Francis (Western Division)
#11 Chaminade (Western Division)
#16 Loyola
#2 Crespi
#19 Notre Dame (SO)

Congratulations. now you have two AA meetings to go to!

AHC said:

Competition in order to compete at the highest level...DONT GO TO AMAT

the Shining said:

Competition in order to compete at the highest level...

http://rivalsradio.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1135&CID=831860

If you can't handle it, transfer out...

the Shining said:

Competition in order to compete at the highest level...

http://rivalsradio.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1135&CID=831860

If you can't handle it, transfer out...

Lancer football said:

okayy sooo cal high and santa fe is on on south east division and not la serna
come on now

LOOK out for us

lancer football !!

Jeremy said:

St. Tartan,

Los Altos wins there series with Damien and pretty soundly I might add to the tune of 3-1 and you want to leave them out?!?

Really?

Well, let me ask you, do your three previous Freshman classes look ANYTHING like LA's?

I know what's rolling in next year as well...can you say dynasty?!

St.Tartan said:

hey Deal with it

your a f-in idiot, glendora didnt win on a hb pass against upland, they won on a PLAY ACTION pass, get your facts straight, i really want to see charteroak play actual good teams!

glendora hands down is in a whole different league compared to Bishop Amat,
San Dimas, Diamond Ranch, West Covina, Los Altos, South El Monte, Rosemead, Bonita, Diamond Bar, Northview and Wilson
glendora should make a league with, saint damien, charter oak, south hills, and then rotate the next best team in the area

the Shining said:

A MUST-READ!

Where does our pride come from?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-hslbs31-2008aug31,0,4127742.column

Every time an SGV high school makes the LA Times, it's good for the entire area.

not even in top 10 said:

skool is right. amat gets too much press for a team whose not even in the top 10 in the rankings for the pac 5

reality czech said:

GO BACK TO SKOOL!
I'm guessing the football coaches that vote on the poll know a little more about the game than any of us

HI SKOOL F.B FAN. . . said:

WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT THE Q.B LEAVING AMAT. WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT AMAT. THEY GET TOO MUCH PRESS FOR A TEAM THAT PLAYS BELOW WINNING STANDARDS. LETS SEE SOME INFO ON SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THAT WINNING ATTITUDE, NEWS ABOUT TEAMS THAT ARE ON THE RISE OR INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITHIN THEIR TEAM'S SUCCESS. AMAT IS NO LONGER THE BIG DAWG IN THE SGV. . . THATS ALL HISTORY.

times is going down the toliet said:

LA times with an article about a player from a 3-7 team? no wonder that newspaper is going down the toliet. donkey writers

DEAL WITH IT! said:

playall day....lucky play??? Are you nuts????

Franco's Immaculate Reception, Flutie's Hail Mary 60 yard bomb. Cordell Stewart's 50 yard bomb, Cal game winning kick off return to win THE GAME, the Miracle in Tennessee, and on and on...by the way didn't the Tartans win a playoff game against Upland on that very play? Or one just like it?

The game is played until the horn goes off. Every second counts. Every play counts. Every point counts and YES every WIN counts.

DEAL WITH IT!

playallday said:

co rules

one lucky play at end of game, who the heck did co play? upland? no, corona centenial? no, any top teams other than ghs, just one lucky play, who on co is going d1? nobody

reality czech said:

LA Times-what are you thinking? no Allen? Deen? Gimore? Barbone? Why pick someone from "broken down" Amat?

wake up SGV. even when they're down - they're not!

CO RULES said:

playallday

The Scottie Dog is about as tough as it gets for Glendora.

Still didnt answer the question... Wonder why!


playallday said:

co rules

i think that metro train buzzing past your house and school at 50 mph must have rattled something loose in your head, wake up and smell the scottie dog, ghs rules

jcaz said:

Nice piece on Isaiah Bowens in the Times.

Just shows how big Amat is in the world of prep sports and it is not just limited to the SGV folks.

Joe Amat said:

An old friend from Miami just called and said the Pac-5 is in a little trouble. LB Poly just ran all over preseason #1 in the nation Miami Northwestern.

Northwestern prides itself on its speed, but the rain from Gustav may have neutralized that a bit. The only ray of hope may be that Poly showed no passing game at all.

JFR said:

Playswithgirls, ASU only recruits JC players!

CO RULES said:

playallday | August 30, 2008 5:54 PM

Who cares what some scout from Arizona says. The year of the Tartans produced how many guys that actually received full rides? Scouts talk but until the head coach drops the paper on signing day, doesn't mean squat..

You guys crack me up. Talk s--- about other schools and you've done nothing this year.. Last year, how many smaller schools did you lose too? Want to remember that?

LPAlum said:

Go Warriors! Ranked or unranked, we gotta play with the same heart and fire that propelled a potentially disasterous season into a successful one.

Let's go Warriors! Time to strap the helmet on tight and start hittin!

playallday said:

co rules,

omg, you need to take in a ghs practice and then tell me there are playmakers, the arizona state scout thinks your wrong

JFR said:

ATTN: knowslittle, Notre Dame has tradition and look at them. I would ease up on the smack until the young men play a game. SD might have enough to get over on your tradition. I would be more concerned about league play, your only victory will be getting the wheel or mug or whatever the hell you guys play for back against wilson.

CO RULES YOU! said:

playallday | August 29, 2008 11:54 PM

I wouldn't go talkin about other schools.

You guys have NO PLAYERMAKERS in that program.

The Warrior said:

People will never agree with rankings in pre-season, only time and stats will tell us the truth. The most important thing is may GOD watch over all our young men keep them all safe this season. LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!!!

A Fan said:

Know All

Didnt you you see the movie Hoosiers. Small town basketball school in Indiana takes on state power house to win Indiana State title.. Not Hollywood Bozo..True story! You see even the sun shines on a dogs ass ever once in awhile. So maybe little San Dimas just might spank big ol tradition laden Los Altos.
And remember this is a family blog potty mouth. Your momma ought to wash your mouth out with soap.

playallday said:

la and sd are both weak, either of them wouldnt last ten minutes in the seirra league, ghs will go 9-3, thats right, heard it here first, win sierra league, and live up to maxpreps #1 sgv ranking

LA CRACK HEAD said:

Knows all (AKA LA Parent)

Still think you're going to win 8 games.

So much for the 6th! Put your money where your MOUTH is.

I'll increase the bet by $1000. When do you want to drop off the money...

know all said:

tradition? thats the past. fuckin idiot

delrio said:

Where's La Habra? Santa Fe, Schurr and West Covina, but no La Habra? Aren't they in the SE division?

VIKING FAN said:

hey big bad la fan la not even top ten ha ha even lower when they get beat up by northview on sept. 11 see you there

drrockinthehouse said:

Popason
Don't get your Panties in a Bunch.That transfer was just coming home to roost after realizing he was playing for a lousy Amat team in 2006.And yes we did win all those games because I was there and the scoreboard reflected that.
It's just to bad that we had a knuklehead for an AD that could'nt cross his Tee's and eye's because I don't want any kids to have that taken away from them just because of some bad paper work that was'nt done right. That knucklehead is gone buy the way and Roddy Layton is a good coach and is putting out a very good team this year. I hope we can live up to our billing.
Popason hopefully your team will crack the list sometime this season!!! "MAYBE"

BIG BAD LA IS BACK!!!! said:

LOS ALTOS FOOTBALL!!!!

LOS ALTOS FOOTBALL!!!!

LOS ALTOS FOOTBALL!!!!

4 MORE SCHOOL DAYS!!!

LETS TURN THIS MUTHA OUT!!!!

JJIMENEZ said:

Is this some sort of misprint?!?!?!

CIF can't be serious about their MID-VALLEY div. rankings.... WTF!?!

!!!FEAR THE MEAD!!!WAR PANTHERS!!!

Chingon said:

Enough talk.
Let's play some Football...

GO FALCONS

Popsonac said:

Why would Diamond Ranch have a 7-3 Record.

Didn't they forfiet games because an illegal transfer.

CIF forfieted their games and they didn't go to the playoffs.

Now they are saying they won those games!!!!!

Confusing isn't it??????

Someone needs to get the story straight?

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