Just Tribbin

king dud..the only whiney b*tch on this blog would be you..

Obviously king stud you were never part of amat alumni

why the hell would i have ever wasted good money going to that school?. do you see all the little amat whiners on this blog? I consider myself smart never to have been to amat and for the record I was agreeing with CD. Not sure what you donkeys are getting on me about.

it's about time someone has the b*lls to speak the truth. Way to go cd! hey king stud sounds like cd knows what he's talking about. Do you? Do you really? are you rixs chick or what? Boo hoo, brother..I didnt hear your story as to why rix got kicked out of amat. Ill be waiting with some kleenex for your response. Ya think there's a problem at amat? Obviously king stud you were never part of amat alumni or otherwise to understand the huge kick in the ass it is for those athletes that puked during hell week and spent the better part of their summers on that field. They did this with commitment, respect and loyalty ALL 4 years. to come back and read this crap. RIX WAS KICKED OUT! Please, let's hear your angle as to why! They should've included he is santa margarita alumni.Why does amat welcome him back? for their 15 minutes of fame on espn or is it foxsports?. What kind of example is this for young athletes? this kind of bs has become the amat way. Thus the reason so many are disgusted with this school. and this coming from their alumni. So for all of you that regard yourselves as the amat loyal, former athletes or otherwise, current coaches, you know who you are, and have jumped on that rix bandwagon, no loyalty, no respect. as for you king dud, on second thought i won't be waiting for your mans boo hoo story as to why he was kicked out. IT IS WHAT IT IS, bro.

Justrab?

Why were you thrown out of Servite? That seems to be the question of the day. Let's hear your story and see if you really had a good reason to be enolled at Amat or if your playing ability preempted any other factors that may have excluded any other non playing student.

JA I think we agree that no one wants to be hudged on their past but unfortunately this is sports and in sports unfortunately even good people like yourself see things differently when it comes to athletes. In my opinion. Mybe I will be proven wrong.

I went to school with two outstanding students. One with a great intellectual mind and one with a curiousity and facination with engineering that would rival any I've encountered in my 50 years on this planet.

Both had very similar situations. Plarents needed help to play their tuition. Both were asked to find a new school. One is now the largest private minority contractor for the the underground system being built in LA and the other has never been heard form again. At the exact same time I played with fellow student who never playe dany tuition other than the first month in any of his 4 years in school. Still hasn't made good on his debt I'm sure. Basically a C- student all four years.

To this day whenever engineer sees our former Vice Principal he loves to tell him. "Het Fr.so and so. remember me? I'm one of the good ones you let get away!" Every single time, and it's happened at least 4 times in my presense, the response is the same. "Oh yeah I think I do. How's it going?"

Every time when the priest leaves my friend tells me the same thing. "Maybe if I played sports he would have let me stay. I love this school but I'll never donate any money here. I know I wasn't the only one who couldn't pay."

Too bad people think athletes are the life blood of any school and choose to give then so many chances and so much funding while academic needs are ignored time and again.

Cd,

I respectfully think it was one season not two. I was thrown out of Servite, but does that make me a bad person. Amat took everything into consideration and allowed me to enroll.

- j

hey kingstud! im still wiping the tears. way to completely ignore the fact that he was thrown out of Amat-played for Santa Margarita the two seasons immediately after Against Amat and is still Held in the highest regards at that place in La Puente. Hey everybody, just ignore the elephant in the room-great tradition Hag is bringing back. Next thing you know Mangini will be on staff for baseball-or do you have a sob story for him too? But my point is not to argue with you kingstud or anyone else-my point is that this school that once had the right people in the right places to make a difference in these young student-athletes lives' no longer does, at all. Im not talking full ride here, or getting recruited there,I mean in the big picture.

Steve,

I think you are a Northview guy, but in any case South Hills is the one school that I never understood. They were very competitive in the 70's and then they drop the Sierra League for the VVL and yes win 7 or 8 titles, but there was no reason to leave based on population or wins as they had a great decade in the 4AAAA ranks.

I think the school is great, great education and location, but they have always played down. I almost went to West Covina as I always have had respect for that program and they continued to play Fontana and Redlands (when they were great) even when the Sierra was dropped a level.

What is with South Hills, you have the talent, but much like is argued correctly (not to take anything away from Amat's baseball) but if you play down there is a difference. The only major difference is that South Hills tooks itself out of the Sierra even when it was winning and a constant 1st, 2nd or 3rd in that league all through the 70's.

-J

Just another example of Amat BS. What a slap in the face to those loyal and true.

I agree CD. Well said

cd,

We know - do you? Do you *Really* know? Since it really is a matter of public record already (and I'm positive Chris wouldn't mind) I'll share.

When Chris was a 20 he was 3,000 miles away from home and his dad was very sick. The dad that raised him alone after his Mom died when Chris was 6 - so this obviously weighed pretty heavy on his mind. He overslept and missed a final exam. (Actually took a make-up exam not so long after the original was scheduled and did fine). Never in academic question - just missed a test. But NCAA rules say if you miss an exam - no Bowl Game. Period. No review or anything. Cut & dry. Actually is FSU's fault because Deion Sanders just blew off all exams his final year and played in their bowl game.

So a college kid is up all night talking to relatives 3000 miles away about his Dad going into the hospital - and overslept. Then he flew back to Cali the next day to be with his Dad. Major sin and he should be alienated from everybody for the rest of his life right?

I'm glad nobody kept score on me when I was 20 - and I bet you wouldn't have wanted that either.

Feel better?

Come on, Fred! You're not posting my comment again?!

At the Amat game on Friday! Yeah, lots of Alumni, including myself. Good to see a packed house. Just one problem. I bought a program and took a look at the Coaches and their brief Bio's. let's get something straight. The Amat QB coach, I will not mention his name but sounds like DIS TIX played for Amat his junior year. He WAS RELIEVED OF HIS STUDENT PLACEMENT AT AMAT and played his last high school season at Rancho Santa Margarita. My how we forget, right Monsignor!? How come they didn't mention DIS TIX playing for Florida in the sugar bowl? I know there are those that know why he was UNABLE to play that bowl game. Just another example of Amat BS. What a slap in the face to those loyal and true.

Breaking News: Cezar Guerrero, the new basketball transfer "phenom" to Workman was denied eligibility for 08-09 due to Undue Influence, according to a source from outside the valley. Looked it up and that's CIF's official status as of 9/18/08

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Wouldn’t it be interesting if we could add Oaks Christian and St Bonnie were to b added to our league?

Yeah than you would have two more excuses for losing to real powerhouse teams.

Steve-O,

Thanks for making that clearer.

That's where I was going when I wrote,
"when it comes to switching leagues, you don't have much of a choice."

When I said that South Hills and Bonita " bucked the system" I thought I remembered a couple rounds of appeals - to no avail. True?

Even though "they moved from the Valle Vista League" it certainly wasn't by choice. Kinda like us and Loyola when they created the Trinity.

How do you feel about the multi-league "associations" or "conferences". Imagine the Miramonte, San Antonio, and Valle Vista in a 3-league conference where every two years the leagues move up the best team and move down the cellar-dwellar. After a while in football South Hills moves up to Miramonte and Wilson moves down. Northview or San Dimas might move up to San Antonio and Walnut moves down. But in swimming or tennis Walnut might move up.

I actually like the trend.

Nice post Joe Amat, but just to set the record straight, Bonita and South Hills were booted out of the VVL. The two combined to win most of the league titles between 1997-2001. The Mt. SAC district voted to move Bonita to the Miramonte. South Hills was moved later to the San Antonio, following an appeal. It was a move it didn't want to make.

SGV Football,

Do you really believe that list you created? My brother went to Damien and I went to Amat (late 70's) and (mid 80's) just so there are some facts and Damien and Amat are just about the same in AP and the College Prep courses. I saw every one of his books and there really is no difference. He scored 1270 and I scored 1320 on our SATs. Why do Damien people make it out like they are “Phillips Andover Academy”, it is a great catholic high school, but name anyone that has gone on to higher ranks than Amat grads. Amat has all the Ivy, UC and top research schools covered.

Damien has about 1,000 boys which would make it about 400 to 500 larger than Amat if you did the math for co-ed. Damien used to go after the same talent (ergo they had coach Larson's boys at Covina Vikings and Amat had their crew Patricio's boys at Covina Vikings) my brother went to UC and I went to Rice and their is no net difference. Damien used to play in the old Catholic League and left and simply feel more comfortable with publics. I don’t really know why, but to say Damien does not have an “outreach” program is insane. They cam to my house in the mid 70’s and my parents talked to them for a few hours. I remember! My bro got a great education and so did I.

Please don't make Damien out to be some Harvard Westlake schools as it is not.

-J

Facts about why Damien would fight any realignment which would place them with other private schools.

1.They would get killed since they are one of the few privates that don't recruit.

2.They also have lousy coaches at the lower levels (for football)who are there because they are connected with the school somehow.

3. They have lousy coaches on all levels for basketball and baseball.

4. Parents send their kids to Damien primarily because of the educational opportunities not afforded by any other school in the general area.

5. Swimming? Water Polo? Track? Damien would kick your butts, but those sports are money drains. If fans stopped going to football and basketball games, there goes a considerable amount of money.

So can your Amat fantasies of an easy win every season. Just take your upcoming victory over Damien that season and be happy with it.

Conq, so you knew I played two years at MSAC, that's narrowing it down for me.

cj,

Those schools already form the Mission League in football and get 2 so it's still 4 spots for the 8 teams. That's why we need one more private school to join the mix - but you are right about Damien - they'll fight it tooth and nail.

and BTW - Pius X closed in the late '90s (I want to say 1998) 10 years... 40 years - who's counting?

Wouldn’t it be interesting if we could add Oaks Christian and St Bonnie were to b added to our league?

I realize it would be a real “stretcher” of a league geographically, but I know for a fact that each of the teams in that league would travel well.

Besides, a new league like that would no doubt surpass the Trinity as the number one league in the southland, and make Oaks Christian play up to their level of competition.

I am certain that they (OC) could taste defeat at least a few times a year (just in league play alone) and not get away with playing against soft competition when it came playoff time.

Hey !! I love Star Trek, and I try to make all the conventions each and every year too.

cj,

Actually it happens more often than you think - just not here in the SGV because the numbers work... although I think it would be a good idea. I'll tell you why later.

As far as leaguing/releaguing/playoffs go, it gets pretty complicated. The bottom line is that each league gets guaranteed spots for at least half their league. Hence the Serra league gets 2 for their 4 teams. If we could get one more team (cough,cough...damien...cough,cough) CIF would have to raise it to 3 teams for our 5. And when it comes to switching leagues, you don't have much of a choice. Ask South Hills and Bonita - who both bucked the system when they moved from the Valle Vista League.

First CIF creates releaguing "areas". The SGV public schools are in the Mt San Antonio, Amat is in the Parochial Area, and the Trinity league strategical aligned themselves into the Orange County area. Schools only get releagued within teams in their designated area. They've protected themselves from getting into the Parochial mix - and none of the public schools want them, so they remain intact. Damien threatened suit to remain in the Mt San Antonio area. I believe it was a Water polo dad. This way they cannot be switched to the Parochial league for the remainder of the cycle (I believe 2010). That leaves all of the shuffling to be done in the Parochial Area.

In their infinite wisdom, CIF creates some "Football only" leagues. They figure if you REALLY travel - at least you only make the trip every other year. Thats why Loyola, Crespi, and Notre Dame are with us in the Serra, but move to the Mission league for everything else. Amat is in what is called the CAMINO DEL REY ASSOCIATION which includes the Camino Real & Del Rey Leagues. The Del Rey is the most competitive of the two leagues. In all other sports these schools self-correct competitiveness by moving the top team every two years up from the Camino Real League and the bottom team from the Del Rey moves down. So the teams in the league change a bit from sport to sport within the association.

This is actually getting a bit popular as there are the WESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE (Express & San Joaquin Leagues) ; GOLD COAST ATHLETIC CONFERENCE (Alpha, Delphic & Olympic Leagues) ; TRI-COUNTY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION (Frontier & Tri-Valley Leagues) ; SOUTH BAY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION (Bay, Ocean & Pioneer Leagues) and there may be more. Some of them are public school leagues. It really makes some sense and adjust competitiveness within leagues... for the most part. Unfortunately, geography is not taken into consideration for private schools, so we are really spread out. A league of Amat, Damien, St Francis, St Paul, and someone else makes sense geographically. The closure of Pius X made the mix imbalanced and the decline of St Anthony is sad. Back in the Manu Tuiasosopu days they were in the Angelus Legaue and now they have 300 students.

I did love the old Angelus League and we competed for years with Mater Dei, Servite, Santa Margarita, Loyola, and St John Bosco - and very competitive in the league to the very end. Our last year we won the league in baseball and in football beat Mater Dei, Servite, Loyola, SJ Bosco, and Santa Margarita in our last two years. Truth be told, most wish that old league was still intact.Unfortunately, there's not much choice in the matter.

Fred, I was in Wisconsin for a few years, hence the moniker here, can you tell me how Amat, got re-leagued by the CIF office, they play different schools in all 3 majors, who did they piss off, if this happened to any public school, there would be a shortage of Kleenex. I don't know how you can have a league that is so strong in football, just look at what Crespi,Notre Dame and Loyola( Cubs won it all in 2005? ) have done in the last few years and then to only have 2 teams get a spot in the playoffs, when all the other leagues get at least 3, to add insult to injury, they dropped Amat's league in baseball to what DV............? Unbelievable!

FredJ

Well, back in '86 you weren't quite at the ownership stage. I think you were looking to get into the PGA apprenticeship program back then. Where were attending school at the time... Maybe Sac?

what is this guy jcaz thinking half the time. He still hasn't talked about his lack of credibility. I love it when posters say that they have been posting under one name and has been here since the blog opened. That doesn't give you credibilty. It just tells us that you live in your moms basement typing on the computer with your star trek friends. If you were proud of your posts, you would put your name behind it. If you can't put your name behind it, you are ashamed of what you are writing. Plain and simple.

BA vs WC

I hope for a good, close game.

However, something tells me WC overextended by scheduling a PAC5 team...again.

BA +28

Amnot,
You sure you have the right poster? I never said we were #1 and never asked for it. No apologies due to me but thanks for thinking about it.

Conq Alum, that's awesome, how in the heck did you know that ... And hey, I own that course.

Its all good, good Luck to both Bishop Amat and West Covina. Screw all the hatred back and fourth this will be great for all to watch. Win or lose for both squads thanks for entertaining us. Good sportsmanship counts we are neighbors.

jcaz Gee wiz you should get a life beyond blogging. Should be fun and annon, some take it and themselves way to serious. Tiz a good way to show support and get the teams and players some xposure. HAVE FUN. GO CHARGERS> I note Williams from CO is droppiog QBz like you guys drop names.

You drive-by posters are too much!

I mean, it's just so funny that you guys always ask for names, addresses, birth dates and social security numbers from bloger's that you don't like, but you never post under the same name twice, and god forbid if you were ever to give out YOU"RE NAMES here.

What a joke you people are.

At least "king stud" has more credibility than any of you in here because, he is at least, posting consistently under his new name.

BTW, just to let you know something, when I gave "King" his name of donkey-boy, I did so because he was always using donkeys' in almost all of his posts. People like you are allot like that, in that you're only constant, is that you simply spew out nothing but hate, all the time.

Having said that, do you know what people like you remind me of? Well, I’ll tell you a little story here.

My neighbor has a little dog and it just so happens to be a Chihuahua.

Now, if anyone here knows anything about little dogs, you know that they can be extremely aggressive little critters. They might be small, but boy, you had better watch out!

Well, anyway, every time I come over to my friends his house, that little dog is either going to try to bite my fingers off, or he is gonna try to hump my leg.

I really don't know which one of those two things he is going to try to do, but, when I come through that door, I know that he is goon try to "screw" me either way right?

Anyway, you get the picture here right ?

Freddie

"78 at Wolf Creek
81 at the Palmer Course, Mesquite."

It seems you're a much better golfer than you were at L.A. National playing on Tom McHugh's dime back in about 1986.

Joe Amat won't admit who he is. He has been called out many times. He doesn't have the balls to admit who he is.

corona
I had nothing to do with the paint job on your car but man was i laughing my *** off on your post. baaa haaa

Is this guy jcaz really that full of himself? I'm sure Coach Bill Mulvehill really came on this blog to read that jcaz said the kicking game needs improvement. Jcaz does not really know Amat if he thinks thats true. I highly doubt that the coaches follow the advice of internet surfers who rush home from games to write what they saw from 15 and 14 year olds.

The real reason you do not post your name is because you are afraid you will get your a$$ kicked by parents. Just be honest about that since you claim to be honest about evaluating teenagers with all your expertise which cannot be verified by anyone.

I'm very positive the players read these blogs and think you are a nobody. I hope you never shake their hand and wish them good luck because you will most likely stab them in the back anonymously later.

Just got back from the JV game. They did a good job in pulling out their first win of the year.

Interesting that we always hear the same names over and over from the announcer in the booth. That kid, Nicholas Casarez is gonna be an awesome varsity player when his time comes.

As for Justrap comments, well, I don’t know if playing so far away from home is such a good idea. The reason, bassest works for me is that they are so very close to Amat.

As for Amat Parent, well, im sorry, I was at the game and didn’t get a chance to read you're post before I went.

Having said that, I want to remind you that when I speak of “a” team (be it varsity or otherwise) I try to be as objective as I can possibly be.

In fact, when I first came on this blog some years ago, I was constantly being attacked by the Amat faithful, because I was critical of the team.

The fact that you're kid plays on this team is immaterial to me. A bad team is a bad team regardless of the fact that they wear blue and gold.

Ya can't blame the truth on facts here my good friend. BTW, I call you my good friend because ultimately, we are both on the same side here right?

Of course, the JV team is playing better. The fact that they got their first win today illustrates that very important point.

Over the past week (did not see then play against OL) they have shown a great deal of improvement in the very things that I was critical of. They have for example, improved in the fundamentals, and have shown that they have been able to execute much better.

Perhaps a little bit of “ribbing” here by folks like me, made them notice eh?

For what it's worth, if you were at the game today Lancer Parent, you may have also noticed that the Varsity team was out there working on, amongst other things, their kicking game. If you recall, I was really upset on how poorly they performed against OL in that category.

Again, there is always room from improvement.

BTW, one more thing here and please doesn’t take this personally ok. But please don’t start to ask for “personal” info from the blogers. If you do that , then you are kinda beginning to sound allot like a “drive- buy” poster, in that, when you begin to ask for the names, addresses and the blood types, of the people who you don’t agree with, it sort of, lessens you’re credibility because I m almost certain, the you yourself would never volunteer the same.

Summer or Tiffany? Sounds good already

amnot-thanks for getting that right - for now

My apologies to bb&g, you rule the sgv, not the rest of the state.

Fred that place is on Foothill. Ask for Summer or Tiffany...I'm just saying.

For what I've "heard"...ummmm...from a friend.....ummmm.....of a friend.

lol

Amat will not built a new Stadium in this day and age. Reasons:
1.) Still paying for the Monsignor Adrian Carroll Building.
2.) We are in a recession.
3.) Monsignor has lined his pockets before his departure.
4.) Tuition if raised will lose students see #2.
5.) They will refurbish the old stadium.
6.) Wine cost have gone up and the Monsignor buys the best Vintage.
7.) Most Parents at the school are not making their $1500 donation / pledge to the new building. This is not a mandatory fee it is a donation and most look at it this way Again see #2.
8.) The only way to get it is to ask Ed Roski to Scrap the Industry idea and build the new stadium in La Puente, then all the Raiders and their fans will be united.

Settle it on the field Friday night Lancers, your crowd is coming to see and support you. Good Luck.

Andrea, that sounds like the place

Damn it,
This is whole different ball game and can of worms, not the same thing.

faculty house? how would you know about that unless you've been there before?

Mesquite? I heard that town is full of loose women who will spend all your money at the blackjack table then make you stay up all night eating a short stack.

Jcaz,

Thank you for the response. Where exactly are these properties (Orange, north of Amat) that keep hearing about. the only properties I can think of are where the old Turners is (remember the Bahuka house) in that old strip mall, but I cannot believe they re thinking of taking the base ball and making it into a football field.

Bassett (grande) would be interesting, but Edgewood Middle (future high school) might also be interesting as I recall that the field at West Covina (Thyberg Field if they stilll cal it that) is actually a distric field like Covina has, but with Edgewood shut down essentially is WestCov private field. Should they re-open Edgewood I think it becomes a shared field again and West Covina unified might be looking for a shared field. I don't know the dynamics of public/private ownership of a field, but EHS would be just down the street.

Another thougth would be to take the current field and move the track next door to the middle school (put an all weather track and soccer field) and move the stands making room for a true area for visitor stands (year round).

No I did not way it sucked, but I get your point. They need a new field with turf.

I think I will play hooky and get over th WC for the freshman game..anyone else?

- J

bb&g you say you come in to try restrain Amat people from going off the deep end and look what you have just engaged yourself in. Grow up Raider Fan

BB&G...YOU WOULD KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT WITH ALL THE MONSIGNORS AND PRIESTS THAT TOOK YOU OVER TO YOUR FACULTY HOUSE.

This is why,
No, but do you kiss your wife after she does me?

MATMTWTBAG

I would have to agree with you. Pre-season is just that. Get the bugs out, stay healthy and try to get into the playoffs.

You don't get to the dance by beating a pre-season teams, so who cares and who cares about rankings. Just a conversation piece for everyone to debate.

But then again, its part of the business for the tribune to get everyone fired up! Blog on baby!

"where in the HELL" this coming from a Lancer Catholic....bb&g do you blow your neighbor with that mouth?

Random Choice BB&G as Mat said ...dude chill save that energy for cheering on your Lancers Friday.

Lancer Parent,
Where in the hell did I say we should be this, that, match up to Poly, DLS, or this other stuff your talking about? I'm calling for restraint from other Amat followers about ratings and such, pretty much what you are trying to do.

Like I've told others who walk into the middle of the movie, read the ENTIRE thread before you type.

Amat Parent, I have not been on here for long time and it is funny you remember my screen name, and I know you were taking names at random, but Allot holds true in your post. Amat is 1-1 the season is so very young and this hype got out of control because of a huge win vs a a very strong Orange Lutheran Program. I can see where our heads went throught the roof tops of our cars as we were driving back from the OC. It has spread like wildfire here on this blog but it has gone overboard in referance to the rankings and SHHS etc.. IMO I really do not care about the Tribunes rankings as they are twisted to one mans opinion and not a panel of coaches etc. Amat going straight to the top after this big win is yet to be seen. The real season to me is when it is time to play our League schedule. First up Loyola at Glendale with Anthony Barr having a so far good year but anything can happen Season very young for all teams. Sherman Oaks Notre Dame Altho they lost some senior talent they reloaded with a very talented JV squad so they will come to play at home as well. Last but not lease is Crespi and they are loaded with talent after watching the replay vs Birmingham. That is only league home game for Amat. Can we get to a playoff round? No one knows and lots of season awaits this Lancer team including the wear and tear on the bodies of our men in Blue. Remember a key injury here and there can make or break any teams season not just Amats. I for one will not put too much on this game with West Covina only to say it is a good one for fans to come out and watch. Lets pull for our team and if they make it to the dance they make it and if they should not well we will never say die. Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue And Gold.!

sevenduece

After reading your last post I can see where you are coming from.

I am a Amat Parent and all I am saying here is a good hard fought win over Orange Lutheran. OK but to go from that win to all the we are number one, lets built a new stadium, we will limit WC to 14 points,6-10 thousand this friday at Kiefer blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...get FN a hold of yourselfs jcaz,BB&G,AMAT73,MATBAG, ORCA,JOE Amat or whoever else is on here putting us way up there with the Poly's and Concord DLS. We won one Game maybe against a OLUTH team that took is lightly and Amat capitalized on it but with all this hype we are giving our team did you guys ever for once think that our men that go out there this Friday are not reading all this pedestal stuff and may come out like o-luth over confidant? Let up alraedy we got Friday and it is coming fast and let our men in blue take care of business on the field. Back the F off already. Nice piece on Albert Cid this morning and I could imagine our team had he chose Amat. Oh well good luck to both teams Friday nite and may the best team win, weather they are number one or not does not matter. Lets go Amat!

jcaz,
Losing 38-0 first week then losing 20-14 the next week does not sound like a struggling team to me. It sounds like a team making improvements. But since you don't put your real name, I can't tell you that to your face. Why is that?

Where will you be sitting so I may join you at the game today?

CO...SH...BA...it's time to stop the whining...I am sure that the coaches of these programs read/hear of all the "crap" that's flying around...which one is going to step up and make a pre-season schedule worthy of stopping all the "blogging"...oh...
excuse me..the only coach that seems capable of scheduling a pre-season that actually takes some nerve to do is Diamond Ranch! Farrar's stat hungry squad does not have the "you know what" to schedule a pre-season that is worthy of all the "hype" he has around his teams...Bogan is better at scheduling pre-seasons foes and it pays off...if you know high school football...you will know that Farrar and his STAFF of STATS...set up "cupcakes" for pre-season...so coaches...who will standup and do what's right..wouldn't that be great football...CO...BA...SH...
SD...Glendora...WC...all playing each other in pre-season rather than a "biscuit" schedule!

one more thing. i forgot to mention that besides good coaching and discipline, there is some true talent on that team. talent that is unselfish and playing well together.

amnot,
you are correct, i did post that comment. and i do stand behind what i wrote. i was, in my own way however, stating that i believe amat is the top team in the area but also that amat fans should have the confidence to know that. it's a long season that just got started. if amat continues to win, then no ranking in the tribune or any publication can do away with a season many didn't think possible. amat's a good team. i've seen them play both games this year. they are well coached and disciplined and that should spell victory for them. tomorrow's game will be fun to watch. see you there!

Fred,
Most of us enjoy reading some of the comments on the blog. It's getting old reading about Amat and their greatness! It doesn't matter who they play or the out come. Just make them #1 in the rankings. I think CO, SH and everyone else can figure it out. Amat should be the best team in the valley, just like they were last year! They can recruit from anywhere, they are in the middle of nowhere and people pay big bucks to put that sticker in the back of their car window. It should count for something. Everyone, except Amat knows that rankings mean nothing in the end. Who ever is left standing is the only thing they play for! If they lose this week, they will have an excuse as to why they are still #1. It wouldn't matter if they lose every game, it will be their strength of schedule. Do not compliment any other program in the paper or the blog, because it makes Ahhmat insecure. There is no pssoible way, other programs can be good if they haven't played and beaten BA. It's getting old. If they run the table, I'm sure you would be the first to say it. Until then, stop crying AHHHHmat!

jcaz, Kiefer was too small and outdated from the day it opened, I was there! The administration, now is incapable of getting a project this big, done...........in my lifetime, anyway, btw the vacant land is not to the north but to the west, to build the stadium on orange Ave, would require to move just about everything, they've already moved the baseball field once,home plate used to face N/NE with the house in straightaway CF............ not feasible, unless someone donated bajillions.....I do like playing at Bassett,which has Field-Turf and new Musco lights, soundsystem, everything...... years ago they(olympians) played at Kiefer and in fact Amat/Bassett co-hosted a boys BB tourney every year before Christmas, so there is a history there,..... everyone at my class reunion was wondering when the school was gonna start a campaign to raise money for the new stadium, trying to get their excuses ready, lol..after the new gym fiasco, it will be interesting!

My Pal Joey. I see you didn't take the bait.Thanks, I appreciate that more than you know.

As usual Donkey Boy, King Stupid or any more of the aliases that he uses has now taken an old name with alot of negative history and tried to cause more static.

I already said I wouldn't comment on the team. Besides as always, at the varsity level, things have a way of showing up "under the lights" that might have gone un-noticed at the JV and freshmen levels.

I'm sure they wish they had beter lower level coaches and played the positions they were going to play at the varsity level but hey that's an old story that's being played out "under the lights" for everyone to see.

I do believe every team gets or earns the record they deserve. This team will be no different.

Once again Joey. You might have been the loudest "voice of reason" but ultimately the "truth is in the pudding" and "cream always rises to the top". Must have been a warm feeling seeing Amat win that game after speaking your mind from a position of experience and love for your school and the kids. You were right Verti was on over his head given all the talent that continues to come out of Amat, this year being no exception.

Save me a seat at the Damien / Bishop Amat game, that one should be wild!

A couple of years ago West Covina had a very good football team. Their first game of the season was against Mater Dei...The played Mater Dei to the teeth. Lets say they beat Mater Dei that year...I would have put West Covina at #1 in the SGV, because come on...it's Mater Dei...they're a football talent factory...Every successful high school coach across the nation has heard of Mater Dei...But with that, I wonder if Fred/Steve would have put the dawgs at #1..given that one, West Covina was ranked lower than the first two teams and second because it was only the first game of the season. I think Fred/Steve would have lacked common knowledge and placed West Covina #3...because the first two teams ahead of West Covina didn't lose...hahaha...I love football in the fall...high school, college, and the pros...there is more drama than a reality show...keep it going Fred/Steve..I enjoy reading your pages because its comical and makes no sense what so ever...

Justrap

Another great comment here. Yes BTW, Kiefer stadium does indeed suck.

Now, I know that’s not exactly what it was that you just said in you're post right now, but for what it's worth, I’ll take a little liberty with that and add a few lines to it, if you don't mind.

For those of you who made the long treck out to the OC for that OL game, well, wow, what a stadium they have eh ?

Sure, it's a college stadium, but we all know that we really need to have a better venue to play our football games in. Kiefer is way too old and far to small for the amount of people we are going to draw over the next few years.

BTW, does anyone recall the post about a month ago, when Joe Amat said that the monsenior wanted to leave a legacy behind, and that he was angling to get the SAC named after him? Well, he was right on, on that one there wasn’t he?

So with that in mind, why don't we have a better facility to call home?

Well, if it's about money (as it always is) then, why not find a solution and think out side of the box for just a moment.

For those of you who went to the all star game at Basset over the summer, you would have noticed that basset High has an outstanding stadium.

Why not consider playing our home games there?

After all it's only a few blocks away from Amat, and if we were to play there then it would a win win situation for both schools and here's why.

First of all, we could vastly improve their facilities to accommodate more spectators by adding more seating to the visitor’s side of the field and use it as the home side. A freebee for them.

They would share in the revenue, if only for a few years until we got our own stadium.

By doing this transition, it would give us allot more room at our school to improve our baseball and softball fields for now, and it would allow us to expand the school with new class rooms that actually have air conditioning in them!

We could play our home games when they are away, or we could play on Saturdays, just like Loyola does now at Glendale High school.

Eventually we could put our new the stadium on Orange, as is the current plan, or we can maybe buy the land to the North of the school and build a new stadium there.

You’re thoughts here ?

the best football game ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ5TwKApFC4

there is a lot of anger regarding these rankings and discussion as to who the "real" number one is. i generally believe that when you know you're good or the best, you don't have to say it, other people will. friday should be a great game to see.

Posted by: sevenduece

anger...more like whining, but amat has earned the right to whine. Bishop WhineAlot-#1

there is a lot of anger regarding these rankings and discussion as to who the "real" number one is. i generally believe that when you know you're good or the best, you don't have to say it, other people will. friday should be a great game to see.

Posted by: sevenduece

anger...more like whining, but amat has earned the right to whine. Bishop WhineAlot-#1

workman running back bradford has 330 yards rushing. so according to your stats, hes the leading rusher in the valley.

Although i believe Amat should win(by a lot) against WestCo, they have to show the valley that div.1 ftbll is a much more physical game than that of the rest of the lower levels. It wouldnt surprise me if SH woops WestCo, but its how they win. Amat needs to dominate at the line of scrimmage, and make big hits(offense and defense).The freshmen game will be interesting since W.Covina whooped them in the Amat freshmens passing tournament. They also need to make a statement.

Fred,

First, of all, the guru is in fact a "burro" (that rymes eh...) if he really told you WC had a chance in this game. Believe me, the game will be over by the first quarter.

For the rest of the faithfull, a few predictions:

1. Lenhart will improve his punting, and he will get clean up duty at the end of the game. I only wish Thropay were still arround so we could see his development. BTW, what ever happened to him anyway ?

2.The mighty Amat defense will not give up more than 14 points to a team that's playing way out of it's league.

3. An indicator of how bad it will be for WC comes on Thursday when the freshaman team (with Rios), travels to WC high, and just totaly blows them out.

4. The WC JV may actually win a game against thier counterpart's because the Amat JV team has really struggled this year.

BTW, why is it that people like "Damian dad" and all the other "Drive-by" posters always want to know personal info on us, yet they never want us to know who they are.

At least King Stud (aka DB) has finaly come around and started useing a screen name. BTW, king stud, you dont' have any kids, do you ? Hum...

Also, for what it's worth, i'll be at that home JV game today.

So, see you all at the home game on Friday, and come real early because, maybe 6-10 thousand gonna be there.

Good point. You must be a genius/LOL

redryder-he just told us his name-
"No Nads"

No Nads, Who are you ?

Fred, thanks for blocking comments on the Saints kid

Joe Amat won't admit who he is. He has been called out many times. He doesn't have the nads to admit who he is.

DD,

what exactly did you disagree with and find "egotistical, narcissistic, or pompous"?

Those are usually the kind of things someone comes up with when they've got nothing else.

You give me far too much credit if you think I can "impose my will." But this blog DOES give me a right to state an opinion... just as it does you.

And NEVER act like "this" ? (whatever "this" is) Please? We've seen a number of "Spartans" cannabilize their own on this blog. Now THAT was pompous!

Red...thanks

Damien Dad
Well said. You rarely ever see Damien people coming on this blog whining like little babies. I would send my kid to Damien but NEVER to Amat

there is a lot of anger regarding these rankings and discussion as to who the "real" number one is. i generally believe that when you know you're good or the best, you don't have to say it, other people will. friday should be a great game to see.

Lancer football team are looking like a team to contend with, but unfortunately, along with this new breed of Parents and constant whiners brings a stigma of arrogance to the Amat family and attracts nothing but scorn and ridicule which has tarnished our reputation and diluted to once proud tradition that made Amat what it once was.

Speak softly and be humble folks and get a grip on your priorities.

Nothing better to do Damien Dad ?

Joe Amat your a egotistical, narcissistic, pompous donkey! I have never seen someone so in love with themselves more than you. I just wish you would come out of the closet and reveal who you are because obviously your somebody that feels you've earned the right to impose your will on everyone else. Shut up and go back to coaching kids at Bishop Amat. At least that means your spending time coaching kids instead of us having to hear from you on this blog and then you would be just one more reason why I would never send my kid to Lancersville I mean Ghettoville. If your sending your kids to a private school go to Damien instead. The Spartans will live to see better days ahead and I promise you we will never act like this in public or private.

Come on Amat people, do you really think the rankings are gonna make a break a team? Do you really think that real football coaches and players really put that much emphasis on the Tribs irrelevant Rankings? If it has no bearing on playoff seedings....it is meaningless and as some other blogger stated, it's just for fun.

Instead lets focus our attention on supporting our boys in blue this friday night and let their on the field performances win or lose or draw speak for itself.

Go Lancers!

78 at Wolf Creek
81 at the Palmer Course, Mesquite.

bishop amat how bout jus play football!!

co and south hills dont care if there 1, 3, 5, or 17 its about playin the game!

crybabies

your all just settin yourself up to fall on you face

on top of the 160yds rushing, Gaeta from azusa is: 23 - 37 passing for 329yds 1Int & 5 TD's

I just read on the LATIMES that Vinnie Rodriquez from Boron HS died last night at Loma Linda Medical Center,as a result of head injuries he suffered last Friday, agaisnt CSDR, 5 foot 5 and 135, must have been all heart! What a tragedy, God Bless you and your family Vinnie!

I love Kieffer field, but with this being local it will be tough to get a seat or we all need to get to the game about 4:45. Did they think about having it at SAC or Citrus? I know Amat does not like to move the game, but at SAC we probably would have a better draw just with parking and all. I will have to park on Hacienda and walk.

- J

Fred if you think CO or SH could beat Amat this year, you're 1 in a hundred, either that or you're trying to be politically correct, did you consult with coach High-ME on this? What does he think? If you think SH could beat Amat, why do you pick La Habra to beat SH, do you think LH could beat Amat? stick to golf, volleyball or cross-country, let me do the heavy lifting for you, this is the same rag that had Covina #1 in 96, frigging laughable! I hope to see you Friday night and watch you hawk the paper in front of the gate!

Interesting Blog Topic I Found...

"What went wrong for OLu and where OLu goes from here
September 13th, 2008, 11:52 pm · 2 Comments · posted by DAN ALBANO, ocvarsity.com"

READ ON AT...

http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/13/what-went-wrong-for-olu-and-where-olu-goes-from-here/

I don't give a crap about any local sgv rating. LOL!

ON BLUE!

Interesting Blog Topic I Found...

"What went wrong for OLu and where OLu goes from here
September 13th, 2008, 11:52 pm · 2 Comments · posted by DAN ALBANO, ocvarsity.com"

READ ON AT...

http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/13/what-went-wrong-for-olu-and-where-olu-goes-from-here/

I don't give a crap about any local sgv rating. LOL!

ON BLUE!

Fred,
Quit dodging the issue. What did you shoot and on what courses.

You asked the question, do I really think South Hills and Charter Oak could beat Bishop Amat? Yes, I think they could. It doesn't mean they would, but certainly possible, especially this season given the talent. Let's see how Amat does against West Covina, Diamond Ranch and Damien. If they stumble against one of those teams, or if it's close, that should answer your question.

Open note to all AMAT fans,
Take the time to read some of these posts by the AMAT faithful. All these negative comments by others are right on the nail head. You whiners are making us look very bad to all the SGV.After all this is Steve's take on the ranking of the valley teams. Take a deep breath and let the situation take care of itself . Just be thankful that there is light at the end of the tunnel. As someone posted earlier. If we continue to win we will not have to speak one word because it will be a known fact that we are # 1 and there will be no one that can deny us of that fact.

Fred and Steve, I believe you guys are afraid to go out on a limb and rank the teams according to who you actually think would win a game, do you really think SH or CO would beat Amat ? CO has proven they couldn't do it, Farrar picked a time when he thought he could and Amat was down, no! Co was beat both times, will he play them again, no way! both of you guys pick La Habra to beat SH on Friday, do you think SH could beat Amat, honestly? ergo.... your "rankings" are a sham....... ask the "guru" that you were so high on this summer, ask most any unbiased,knowledgeable observer, you'll get the same answer, Amat would beat anyone in the SGV. Packers this Sunday night over the cowgirls and pass me a Leinies or 2

attn joe amat the Times has 10 private schools in their ratings this week, Mater Dei,Crespi,Servite,St. Bonnies,Notre Dame,Oaks Christian, Amat, Loyola,Orange Lutheran and St. John Bosco. Looking at their rankings, all 3 Serra League opponents are ranked higher than 17th and Los Osos and Orange Lutheran are still ranked in the teens, what a tough schedule, please compare it to all the cupcakes the other schools play Ramirez,

Air Bud,
Wrong! Not everyone is the same, get that thru your head. You THINK, you HOPE, you WISH we were but we are not. Even if there were those who did not provide your cannon fodder, you've proven yourself to make up your own anyway.

So much for freedom of speech, Fred! Amat won 1 game, so what! How many more do you think they have to win to gain back the great reputation we once had? As an Amat alumnus, I'd have to agree with comments. Don't send your kids to Amat. What a bunch of whines! That's all Amat is anymore. Whiney parents trying to get their whiney kids on the team or as the star whatever! Get over yourselves. Is that better, Fred? Use your footballs and post my comment!

Charter Oak's Adam Muema has 334 rushing yards and 5 td's on 29 carries. I believe that would put him at the top of ALL running backs.

As far as who's #1, that's just one man's opinion. Right or wrong it's just his opinion, why are so many Amat fans having such a difficult time with this? Is Amat the best football team in the SGV? Probably. Will they win a CIF title? Probably not. But there is no denying the fact that they play higher caliber teams, they should beat all other SGV teams. Would they beat all other SGV teams? Probably not. If they could beat a team of O LOU's caliber then most of the better teams in the SGV would have the same shot at beating Amat, given the same situation. Does that mean if one of these teams played Amat and won would they automatically be #1? Using Amat fans logic the answer would be yes. But they would be wrong. I really hate to say it because I have such distain for Amat (more for the fans then the school) but they are the jewels of our little part of the world. I just wished SOME of their fans acted like jewels and not tools.

This only gives cannon fodder to the haters out there

You are damn right it does. I have said this many times on this blog and it bears repeating. Never send your kids to amat. Look at all the whining little babies both adults and students. I can see these people when they get into the real world and going up to their boss at work at a sales meeting saying " Hey why is billy ranked number 1 and not me? I did go to Amat I should be number one even thought I don't deserve it"

You amat fans need to stop the whining and get off of fred and steve's backs. You think you can do better than those two? Then go get your degree and work at a newspaper and SHUT UP. It's a thankless job.

Fan,
Not all of us are out of our minds, just some of us. :) Common perception and others would place us all in the same basket. After what I've been reading, I can't blame them but rest asssured, we'll try and keep them in line with no promise of success.

What's the matter, Fred? Can't post my comment?!???

Hey Fred,

How did you miss that the Workman Running back Kalin Bradford has 24 Carries against Mt.View for 107 and 1 TD. And then 21 for 212 and 3 TD'sAgainst Keppel...that would make him..43 carries for 319...and yes 4 TD's making him the leading rusher...i know its Workman but give the kid his due...

That kid from workman has 319 rushing yards and 4 TD's.

Joe Amat

Do you really believe your own bullsh**? You said you base your opinions on facts yet you are constantly tooting the Amat horn. You are full of it grandpa!

BB&G

Ahh the voice of reason.

People wouldnt hate Amat so much if they didnt come on here and cry so much. You guys have a great tradition and an exciting future with all the new coaches. Ride it out and let your record speak for it self. If your really the the big dog in the valley you wont need to brag. Everyone else will be talking about how great you are.

Leave Stevie alone. And we all know that Fred is a true TROJAN.

I am a Lancer - a Las Palmas Lancer!

But seriously, as a reporter, I'm neither a Lancer, a Husky, a Saint or even a Viking.

Fred shot....himself in the foot by going on vacation and letting Steve Ramirez take over.

Steve Ramirez thats the only way you will ever become a Lancer...a free lancer

We are not #1 at this time and I don't see what all this bit_hing is about .SH and CO won both of their games so rightfully they should hold the spots until we prove the OL game was no fluke or gift which I am sure the whole SGV will realize after Friday's game except for the haters who will never be convinced. Just sit tight and let that game do the talking . Have faith in our team to correct this situation with a big win on Friday since Fred is calling it the game of the week. By the way Fred what did you shoot.

Amat People,
Will you please stop this bitching and moaning about who is supposed to be #1? Enough already! The ONLY thing that matters is at the end of the season. We still have a long way to go so let's not get too over confident in ourselves and just take them one game at a time.

This only gives cannon fodder to the haters out there. Please act accordingly, thank you.

I love it, Stevie R, and Joe Amat going head to head.

Joe Amat,
First of all, they are rankings not polls. A poll by definition is a consensus of more than one person. What we have are rankings. I wasn't the editor in 1996, so I have no control how those rankings were determined. I will say that most of my influence of how to rank teams came from Cal-Hi Sports, where I worked as a free lancer before coming here, and I use some of those same techniques. being you select a No. 1 team and you stand by it...until they play their way out of that position. I don't think what happened last week applies, but that could change.

I will be at Amat-West Covina in what will be a close game. Check out tomorrow's newspaper, I'll have a feature on West Covina's Albert Cid.

Game of the week: West Covina at Bishop Amat
Video Highlight game: La Habra at South Hills

Bishop Amat is 1-1 right? They did lose, or did I miss something. BTW, the guro called me today and said West Covina's gonna win. I told him lunch is on me if that happens, but it's never gonna happen.

Fred or Steve if I see you at the Amat game I will ask you what you are doing covering a number 3 team instead of being at South Hills to cover the Number one team of the SGV. I bet one of you will be at the Amat game...Incognito I bet.

Keep Cryin,

does not matter
if Amat is not number one at
Seasons end.
They are number one
right now
and got robbed by these
two alledged wannbe
sportswriters

Don,
They have no system, they wing it as you can see. I guess Bogan must be giving them more interviews then Hagerty. They brought this Amat barrage on themselves.

Going to be real funny come week #10 when Amat isn't #1.

Then, you'll be nowwhere on this blog.

Get over your ego's, you won one game in a ten week schedule. Let's dicsuss it at year end...

Fred/Steve,

What exactly is the criteria for the Trib Ratings? I understand the geographical part, (based on the various paper's circulation areas), I think. What though, is the rationale for rating one team over another. That is, how does the Trib brain trust assemble their top ten?

Over the last few years, I have ranked my own list for fun, based on my my standard (who would beat whom in a head to head), and my own version of the San Gabriel Valley, (expanded to include most of what the LA County FD considers SGV operational area), Maybe my methodology doesn't measure up to yours, but I don't know because I don't know what yours is.

Enlighten us please.

Too Funny,

Don't hold your breath. By Steves logic, those results on Friday would only leave Charter Oak as the top ranked team based on the initial guess of their pre-season #2 ranking followed by their impressive wins over 0-2 Aliso Niguel (who lost to Newport Harbor (58-7), that powerhouse program from Pioneer, and the expected win over Diamond Bar (especially after their 2-8/0-5 record from last year).

The rankings clearly aren't based on who the best teams are or who would beat who, (apparently as evidenced by Steves '96 poll that has been brought up a couple times- I had forgot about THAT one!)

Fred, Steve and to the Cheif Editor of the Tribune, are you kidding me here? Amat is this blogs 85% hit rate of bloggers and you dog them like that after a huge win over the OC not to mention a Ranked team. Oh well it does not matter Amat wins friday and So Hills loses friday and you think you have it rough right now. Good Lord did you guys set yourself up for this. Amat bloggers will torch you come Sat. if the above games outcome happen. Amat wins and anything less then number one next week and more of this Tribune slamming will continue.

Steve,

The difference in what you just wrote compared to what you initially wrote is significant. You just said "once a ranking is established" vs your initial "... philosophy in rankings that once a team has **solidified** a position, it holds on to that rating as long as it keeps winning...". Established? Solidified?

I wrote earlier:
I guess I would question your definition of "solidified". **Guessing** where someone should be placed in a *Pre-Season* poll after reviewing returners, hearing about some passing league contests played with half a team (and probably not the most important half!), and interviewing some coaches is not an exact science. How much merit and weight should be placed on THOSE rankings that come out before a squad has even hit the field for a real game? That's "solidified"? Early season rankings should be fairly "fluid" in the first few weeks of real action to self-correct for the inherent inaccuracy that comes with the guesswork. Note the college polls when USC's performance on the field quickly moved them form 5 to 1 - because the question marks that placed them at 5 were answered. Georgia, on the other hand, dropped with less than stellar performance - compared to the Trojans. Even though they're undefeated.

I also agree that polls are an opinion. But I choose to form MY opinions based on some *objective facts* rather than *subjective* feelings, loyalties, or self-imposed guidelines. I'd ask of you the same I ask of all bloggers in any discussion. Back up that opinion with some objective information rather than some *feeling*. You're up.

Bottom line is the polls create some "buzz" (they've certainly done that!) and are fodder for friendly banter between fans, not-so-friendly arguments and the occasional "you've got to be kidding me" moments. This is just one of those.

fan,

Only NINE of the 25 schools in the LA Times Top Ten are private schools. Kinda blows that argument. Who was being an @$$?

Not being bound by any local/regional bias, the Times apparently realizes how generally ludicrous it is to rank a football team in a lower division above those from the highest divisions - unless they go out and beat someone from one of those higher divisions. Notice mostly Pac-5 schools with a couple Central and Inland teams. No one lower than that, outside Oaks and Bonnies.

Realistically, it's not wins against other lower division schools, it's performance against the best competition.

The Triprune,
The difference is I don't believe I made a mistake. Rankings are subjective - There are no right or wrongs, just opinion. Like I wrote earlier, I believe once a postion in a ranking has been established, the team in question is entitled to at least that position, unless they either lose or play poorly. Neither was the case for South Hills or Charter Oak, who both did their job last week.

"genius" I knew what he meant I was being a dumb a$$ like him (or her).

panther'
this blog is to expess opinions. if bloggers diasagree with the inept rankings - they have a right to write about it-just as you have a right to question it. no more-no less.

fan-I think he meant "where is SHHS on the list?

All you Amat cry babies are pathetic, acting like you whole identity depends on where a local newspaper ranks your football team.
Get a life!

To "A real Newspaper" looks most of the school listed are private school. Maybe thats were that newspaper gets its money from them. If you don't like our paper then stay off our blog. Last I heard SHHS is in West Covina (for your info).

Posted by: Good Move | September 11, 2008 4:50 PM
I said this coach can coach and it makes a huge differance. Hagerty has them playing football. He is all about fielding the best team and utilizing his best players. He outcoached one of the legends of prep football last nite. Amat is back and to all the haters I know which game you will be at this comming friday. Kiefer will be packed glad I bought my season tickets. I knew Hags was special. Great job coach keep the team humble and tear up WC. Oluth great in defeat what class. Jerry Mc. you were outstanding. That adjustments to the Oline from the Los Osos game was like nite and day..again great coaching. Sucks my kid missed this coach by 1 year and played under Verti. Glad for this Lancer Team Keep up the great work. Fred Robledo no doubt The Lancers are the No#1 team anything less and I cancel my Tribune.

Posted by: Good Move | September 13, 2008 6:58 AM

Cannot say you were not warned that placing anything less then #1 would be a huge mistake...Fred and Steve I know you are hoping for West Covina to win this Friday to save your butts...guess what it is not going to happen Bishop Amat will win this game and the Tribune will continue to look like Bafoons.

Amat is #1 this week.

I guess this really has a big impact on your lives?

Now , lets move on...

September 15, 2008

EXCUSE ME WHERE IS SO HILLS?

Rk. SCHOOL COMMENT (LAST WEEK)
1 L.B. POLY (1-0, SS-Pac-5) Jackrabbits last played so long ago (Aug. 30) that their most recent game is airing on ESPN Classic. (1)
2 COR. CENTENNIAL (1-0, SS-Inland) Huskies hope remedial defense course pays off in Mater Dei rematch after giving up 621 yards last year. (2)
3 MATER DEI (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Stat crew expected to tote extra pencil sharpeners for Centennial game after teams combined for 1,302 yards last season. (4)
4 CRESPI (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Celts expect to sound right tune again in second-annual Battle of the Bagpipes with Servite. (5)
5 MISSION VIEJO (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Rankings schedule committee preferred days when Diablos would play the likes of Concord De La Salle. (6)
6 SERVITE (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Coach Troy Thomas to Crespi administrators: "Sure, now you install $1.5-million field turf." (8)
7 ST. BONAVENTURE (2-0, SS-Northern) Game against L.A. Jordan on Thursday just got upgraded to AAA status. (9)
8 SO NOTRE DAME (1-0, SS-Pac-5) Game against Birmingham on Sept. 26 just got downgraded to junk bond status. (7)
9 OAKS CHRISTIAN (2-0, SS-Northwest) Think Gretzky, Montana and Smith would have any trouble getting reservations at Spago? (10)
10 REDLANDS E. VALLEY (1-0, SS-Inland) San Gorgonio can always hope Wildcats are caught looking ahead to ... next week's game against 0-2 Dominguez? (11)
11 EDISON (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Off weeks have been more trying than opponents so far for Chargers. (12)
12 LOS OSOS (2-0, SS-Central) Who at the time realized that opening victory over Bishop Amat might go down as Grizzlies' signature triumph? (14)
13 BISHOP AMAT (1-1, SS-Pac 5) Previously placed on rankings hold, Lancers ask, "Can you hear us now?" (NR)
14 ORA. LUTHERAN (1-1, SS-Pac-5) Should have figured Lancers had to lose since they played the Lancers. (3)
15 UPLAND (2-0, SS-Central) Highlanders are among those confused by winning second game of season in "Week 1." (15)
16 ESPERANZA (2-0, SS-Pac-5) UCLA's DeWayne Walker should consult with Aztecs, who gave up an average of 8.5 points in first two games. (16)
17 LOYOLA (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Unstoppable RB Anthony Barr could give Cubs aura of invincibility against once-unstoppable Concord De La Salle. (17)
18 LOS ALAMITOS (1-0, SS-Pac-5) Multitalented QB Clark Evans averaged more yards per rush (9.4) than per pass (8.1) in opener. (19)
19 LAKEWOOD (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Luck must be on Lancers' side; their nonleague opponents have a combined record of 0-7. (20)
20 RANCHO VERDE (2-0, SS-Inland) Seems like not-so-old times: Mustangs win each of their first two games by 35-0 score. (21)
21 COR. SANTIAGO (1-1, SS-Inland) Sharks turn out lights on La Quinta after first-quarter stadium blackout. (22)
22 CHAPARRAL (0-1, SS-Inland) Fourth-quarter do-over would suit Pumas fine after lost opportunity against Corona Centennial. (13)
23 TESORO (2-0, SS-Pac-5) Will Titans be remembered for more than feasting on cupcakes? (24)
24 NORCO (1-0, SS-Inland) These Cougars' bark is worse than Crenshaw Cougars' bite. (NR)
25 ST. JOHN BOSCO (2-0, SS-Pac 5)

I agree with workman. I have been hearing alot about this kid that they have. Kailin Bradford, running back, the kid is 6' 210 pounds. Watch out for him, only a junior. Expect big things from him this year.

oh calm down, it was a great win by Amat, no doubt about that. But let's see what happens this week with West Covina, and don't think that Amat would automatically just beat South Hills and Charter Oak because of the Orange Lutheran win, it doesn't work that way. Amat will have its chance to prove its number one over the next four weeks when it plays games IT SHOULD WIN. we'll see.

When are you going to give workman their props. They have a solid team with year with a very underated running back.

LIke what was said yesterday...Back in 96' the Tribune unjustly ranked Bishop Amat, the USA Today #20 team in the nation (#20 IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES INCLUDING ALASKA); LA times #1 team, and Cal Hi #2 team in the State....#2 behind then #1 undefeated Covina Colts. The Colts weren't ranked anywhere nationally or even within the state. How the heck does that happen? The reason being is because the Colts didn't lose a game. That Amat team was full of studs: Ralph Brown II (ALL CIF STATE AND USA TODAY PLAYER), Brian Polak, Joe Getheral, Brian Russel. But still they were #2. Now I understand we are only 2 weeks into the season, but based on the 2 weeks played so far...Amat should be the #1 team in the SGV...I also know that these are just rankings...and ultimately the proof is in what happens on the field...but come on. And some bloggers are going to say lay off of you and stop whining because you can't rank teams that never play each other? But use the tools such as recruiting, scouting reports, strength of schedule, transfers, or the current teams past Frosh/JV records..but Fred/Steve, lets be honest...if you're gonna be a reporter...then report the facts...and if you're going to have a top 10 then use common sense...and so far I see nothing but a lack of it. Get it right SGV Tribune..

The REAL outrageous comment of the week was ranking Amat 3rd to start with.
I understand people considering canceling due to questioning the credibility of what's written.
How is it possible for both of you to to pick AGAINST your #1 team when they play an inferior team than the #3 team beat last week?
Wouldn't that say that you unanimously think the #3 team is BETTER than the #1 team.
Illogical! How is anything else you write to be trusted?

fred, i'm disapointed that steve and you picked against our beloved shhs. yes, la habra will be a great test for this team. that 'petey puga' killed us last year for sure! deen has the confidence and plenty of talent to take it to these guys, no doubt. our deffense will have to play smart, penalty free football to keep them in check. hopefully, our kicking game will be at its best too! they can do it, but it will take all 11 players on each side if the ball to succeed and get the w in the win column.

if it goes well, will have those lancers fans up in arms again!!!!!

good luck to all our sgv teams, especially shhs.

we cannot change what happend yesterday, but, we can control what we do today. later

Hey Fred;

If I had it my way, i'd be taking vacations every month also!

Don't take to many though! The topics get a little boring! LOL... Steve can't do it all!

Keep your predictions coming! You and Steve, have been right on with AZUSA winning! Keep on getting them right!

NOW GET TO WORK!!! just kidding, and keep up the good work!

AZTEC PRIDE!

Just got a new Puppy, I know where my Tribune is going, hope he dumps on that sports page of yours.

Well with all the Tribune Burnings and all the canceled Subscriptions, you have to wonder about their feedback Fred and Steve. Come on your theroy does not hold. South Hills is number one after beating Ayala but you have this so called Number one team losing to La Habra Friday. Bishop Amat at 1-1 took out a farm team OL and is playing a 2-0 team in West Covina, so I see the opposite With So. Hills Playing a tougher opponent then Bishop Amats in La Habra.?? What does it matter you guys are the equivilent of the Replacement players as far as writers are concerned. If we did a top ten Newspapers list I am sure The Tribune is not on that list. You done screwed up, admit it... but you wont. Hey at least that NFL ref. admitted he blew that call in the Chargers / Broncos game. Re-print that top ten with Amat #1 and have it in tomorrows edition of the Tribune. What a Mickey Mouse Newspaper.

I adhere to the Jim Rome theory. I take alot of vacation.... because I GET alot of vacation!

Fred,
Love the blogs! I have a question for you. Last year San Dimas pretty much took it too Bonita and won the Smudge Pot. This year, by all indications, San Dimas is stronger than last year - quite a lot stronger - despite the fact that Kyle Withem has been removed from the team for some sort of legal issue. Even so, San Dimas gets stronger and takes on a team that they beat soundly last year and you still have Bonita #4 above San Dimas at #5??? I don't know, but it doesn't really make sense to me. Did Bonita get so much better that they are now better than San Dimas? I don't know if you watched any of the South El Monte game, but the San Dimas team looks great - without a doubt the strongest team in school history. Maybe you can explain???

Fred, did not know that you took that many vacations.. WHATEVER.. Anyways, welcome back and loved that Edgewood sweatshirt you were sporting at the NV vs LA game. Good Job Vikings!!

Comp time buddy, for all my hard work :)

Hey Fred
Maybe you should run for Congress,with all the vacations you take you would fit right in!