The Scouting Guru's Back
I'm going back to just calling him the "Scouting Guru," and once again, the Guru is providing a list of the top ten players from the San Gabriel Valley with the most potential of succeeding at the college level. The Guru runs a scouring service for the San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire, and provides this information free of charge to give our readers an insight to how this works, and how players are rated.
From the Scouting Guru
Quite frankly, there is not another scouting service that watches as much coaches film as we do. At this point of the season, it is all about the film. Players that look good with shorts and shirts on in the summer, sometimes have their stock drop because they fail to make an impression with the pads and helmets on. So with that being said here is our new top-10 list as we went enter week 3 of the football season,
For the top ten, click thread
1. Ify Umodu (Wide Receiver/Cornerback, South Hills, class of 2010) - I'll be quite frank with you, there is not a player that has us on pins and needles every time we get the coaches film more than this guy. He is capable of making spectacular players at a moments notice. If any of you were at the Ayala game, you saw one of the greatest catches that we've ever seen in high school football from Umodu...a one handed catch on a 30 yard fade route, using the outside hand, with a corner draped on him. It evoked memories of a wide receiver from USC named Dwayne Jarrett. We asked the future king (Stevie R.) if he had seen a better catch, and he couldn't remember one. The knock on him is that he takes plays off on offense, and that will not work if he expects to be offered by USC. He can also play defense. He shut down one of Ayala best wide receivers and if you take away one bad misjudgment on a fade route against LA Habra, he showed up well on film Friday night with an interception and he can tackle (a big factor for a lot of Pac-10 schools). He will be one of the most highly sought after athletes in Southern California for the class of 2010. In this day in age of everyone playing fantasy football, if I am drafting a player in the first round on my high school fantasy football team, this is my first pick.
2. Sheldon Price (Defensive Back, Bishop Amat) -- Bishop Amat defensive coordinator Daylon McCutcheon made the decision to place this play maker at the safety position and it has worked out in spades. He is showing that he can play safety (which just might be the position he'll be playing at UCLA) but we would like for him to play a little bit more physical. We've been pleased with his performance on the coaches tape and look for him to make an impact at UCLA right away once he gets on campus. A very solid pick-up for the Bruins.
3. Brandon Sermons (Defensive Back, Diamond Ranch) - Fans throughout Southern California will be able to watch this player in two weeks when the Panthers take on the Lancers on FSN Prime Ticket, and they will not be disappointed. Teams are once again not throwing the ball on his side and he's showing great cornerback skills. This is the most wanted player in the SGV right now with offers all over the place. I just don't think SC will be in the picture, just because he didn't go to their summer camp (and SC uses their camp to evaluate their prospects before they offer). His stock remains high and I will be interested to see which college he picks. Whoever gets him, gets one heck of a player.
4. Cameron Deen (Quarterback, South Hills) - We dropped Deen a few spots not because his performance has been poor, it's just that the top three players have really performed exceptionally well. Deen has not lost his status as the best QB in the SGV and I just don't see him losing his throne to anyone in area...and we've seen everyone. After talking to a coach that has seen Deen on film this season he made a great point when he pointed out that he projects better to the college level than any QB because SH utilizes a college based passing game that makes it easier for him transition into a D-1 passing game playbook. He's just another in a long line of well-coached QB's from SH that has produced guys such as Lamaison, Mort, Guerrero, Edie, Leadingham, Smith and others. He'll be offered fairly soon and will have a terrific college football career. Good luck to all the defensive coordinator in trying to stop the best QB in the SGV. I don't envy your tasks!
5. Brent Seals (Linebacker, Bishop Amat) - I am very biased to this player. Every time that we seen this player in person or on film, he shows up really well. I thought he was the best player on the field on the defensive side of the ball in their upset win over Orange Lutheran. He showed that he can play in space and made several big plays inside the tackle box. He has been offered by Dartmouth, Harvard and Columbia - all three are top-notch Ivy League programs. But we think that he can play in the Mountain West Conference and hopefully one team will step up to the plate and spend some money on him. One HC told me after playing Amat this season that he felt that Seals was the best defensive player on the team. Can't disagree with that!
6. Adam Muema (Running Back, Charter Oak, Class of 2010) -- In looking at the talent in the SGV for the 2010 class (which we believe will far exceed the talent of the class of 2009) the running back position will provide the lion share of the talent in the SGV and it starts with this guy. He runs hard downhill, shows great vision and terrific elusiveness. He just makes things look so easy on film that he presents issues for all defensive coordinators that have to deal with this guy. We will be in attendance at Charter Oak's game against Rancho Cucamonga Friday night and the main reason why we are going to the game is to watch this player in action. He'll be offered by the spring of 2010. Lots to like here!
7. Darian Johnson (Cornerback, Bishop Amat, Class of 2010) - Johnson's performance on film has improved so much from last year. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the main reason is because he is under the tutelage of the best defensive back coach in the SGV in Daylon McCutcheon. He has terrific hips, great cover skills and a nice explosion when breaking on the ball. Plus, he is one of the best tacklers on the team. His size will work against him by some Pac-10 schools, but this is the best cover-corner for the class of 2010 that we've seen on film.
8. Ricky Johnson (Running Back, West Covina, Class of 2010) -- We've not seen the coaches tape from the Bishop Amat game, but this is one player that needs to step his game up. He has shown flashes of greatness in his first two games of the year, but he clearly needs to have a huge second half of the year, if he expects to be offered by the Pac-10 next year. When he's fully charged and ready to go, he ranks up there as one of the best running back in the area. But, he'll be getting competition from Glendora's Andre Holmes as the second best running back in the area. Fans going to the Glendora vs. West Covina game will be seeing two of the best running backs in the SGV in Johnson and Holmes. That in its self is worth the price of admission.
9. Wallace Gonzalez (Wide Receiver, Glendora, Class of 2011) - We were in attendance at the Glendora vs. Etiwanda game last Friday and the reason for our attendance was to see this player in action. And we were not disappointed. For a sophomore that is still figuring out the game, the tools are there for this kid to being the best football player for the class of 2011. He's looks every bit the part of 6-3, 190 in pads, has terrific hands, a great body and has natural athleticism. On his touchdown catch in the fourth quarter against Etiwanda, he clipped heels with the corner that was covering him, but kept his balance and made a terrific catch. He needs to work on his speed and he needs to understand that it's OK to block someone when the opportunity calls for it. I had a catch to speak with Upland HC Tim Salter and he told me that he wished that he had him on his team. Colleges are already asking us about this kid. His stock will continue to rise.
10. Drew Kaluzny (Quarterback, Glendora) -- Let me just say that I am was very harsh on this player entering his senior film. His junior film was just OK, but we just didn't see the consistency that we saw in guys like Deen and Charter Oak Chris Allen. Well, a change in the offense along with the development of the skills guys around him has made Kaluzny a much more improved QB in the SGV and the IE. He has better pocket presence, a very live arm and is just a tough kid. The way that he helped engineer the last minute game-winning drive against Etiwanda, showed that his has matured mentally. He is the best area QB that we've seen on film right now in the area. His stock is moving up really nicely!
Two final points. I am really happy to see coach Steve Hagarty finding success over at Bishop Amat. He is one of the true nice guys in the business and if players are leaving Amat for other schools, there missing out on one of the top-notch coaches in area. And it's great to see that the Amat faithful walking around these days with their chests out in their Amat pride. But, lets not go overboard here. We saw (with great amount humor) on one of the posts that a person hoped that Amat would play top-notch teams in the Inland Empire, such as Corona Centennial, Redlands East Valley, JW North, etc.
My answer: No you don't! We evaluate talent not only in the SGV but in the IE as well and believe me when I tell you, the deeper you go into the IE, the longer your ride home will be after you gets heads handed to you by teams that are way bigger, way faster and way stronger. For example, we've seen REV and JW North in person, as well as Corona Centennial, Corona Santiago, Rancho Verde and many others on film and those are teams that will take the best from the SGV and make them look like a Pop Warner football team. You take Vista Murrieta and put them in the any of the top leagues in the SGV and it will not look pretty...trust me. REV has five junior football players that will be offered by the Pac-10 next year, JW North has three, and we can go on and on and on. The talent in the IE is far superior to any talent in Southern California period! Consider this for a moment, as of right now, 28 different players from the class of 2009 in the IE have been offered D-1 scholarships, Orange County 14. The shift of power is complete and the best football in Southern California is being played in the IE right now. And we argue that the toughest Division in CIF right now is not the Pac-5 Division, it's the Inland Division. If you think I'm crazy, answer me this question, in Week 1 Corona Centennial was taken to the limit against IE up and coming riser Chaparrel and only scored 24 points in a ten-point victory. How does Centennial score 50-something points against big bad Mater Dei a week later? In our opinion, Chaparrel played Centennial way toughest than Mater Dei and would beat Mater Dei if they played this week.
Now, an area team on occasion can beat an IE team from time to time, South Hills took care of Rancho Cucamonga and Claremont last year, and it will be interesting to see if Charter Oak can be successful against one of the fastest RC teams we've seen in years. But, I don't see anyone in the area willing to take a shot against the top teams in the IE and that is because they know the lay of the land. The IE has could very well have the best QB's in Southern California in the class of 2010 and class of 2011 and have players at other positions that are Pac-10 players. You have a good thing going Amat fans; don't go about trying to schedule games against schools that you have no chance in winning. If you start doing that, you'll be back on this blog wanting Hegarty to get fired. Stay humble Amat fans!
Final point: We have the luxury of going all over the place in the IE and SGV and experiencing high school football for different perspectives. It's what makes my job a ton of fun. Having said that, I want to give my props to everyone at Glendora High School for making my first Glendora football experience one that I will not forget. The first word that comes to mind when I think of Glendora football is class. It started with the ladies at the pass gate, to the friendliness of everyone on the sideline, to the speed of the parents working the concession stand at halftime (I'm the quickest guy when it comes to ordering, you can call it the scout's special; one Snickers and a Diet Coke gets the job done) to the overall atmosphere in the stands throughout the evening. Area teams have a long way to go to match the class that Glendora showed last Friday night. Kudos goes out to principal Kelly Bruce, athletic director Brock Jacobson, head football coach Mark Pasquarella and the rest of the people at Glendora for running a first-class program.
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Hey SGV those are some pretty harsh remarks. It is apparent that you probably sit on South El Montes sidelines. Maybe you need to get out of the MVL and see what some D1 prospects look like. Good to hear that a MVL player is doing well but the last time I checked Pioneer and La Puente can't even go 500 in there seasons so it is safe to safe that your receiver isn't playing against any D1 corners. My bad the MVL is really know for all the D1 athelets they have turned out NOT. Do your home work and than pop off about the guru's picks.
Kong,
Like I said, Ricky was banged up before he played Amat, Ili did sprain his ankle vs Amat, but you can get hurt in any game, Mater Dei was every bit as physical as Amat if not more yet the only injury
that cost us playing time in the 2 years we played them was an ankle sprain to Demon Wallace in 06 on the last play of the game, yet we could go out & play Nogales next week & end up with three injuries that cost us time, anything can happen no matter who your playing.
"Ricky Johnson hasn't quite had that breakout game this year, not sure if you knew about this Fred, but Ricky has played
with a bruised bone in his leg, I believe it was in either the team scrimmage
or in the first game vs El Rancho when he got hurt.
Also our fullback Jessie Ili, will be out this week & next week with an ankle sprain. Glendora will be quite the challenge this week."
Dan,
Hate to break it to ya, but I think they got banged up playing Amat last week. Okay so imagine how banged up WC, CO and SH would be playing our shedule, week in and week out? Just something to chew on.
Ricky Johnson hasn't quite had that breakout game this year, not sure if you knew about this Fred, but Ricky has played
with a bruised bone in his leg, I believe it was in either the team scrimmage
or in the first game vs El Rancho when he got hurt.
Also our fullback Jessie Ili, will be out this week & next week with an ankle sprain. Glendora will be quite the challenge this week.
The Guru is a joke your missing tim gilmore, manny acosta, nico barbonne...
It’s interesting how the some are called having “great seasons so far” and then the GURU says he has college potential after one game.
Case in point: Manny Acosta is heads over Gonzalez and Stockman.
Acosta 16 rec/264 yds/16.5 Ave/132.1 game/5tds
Stockman 10 rec/164 yds/16.4/82 game/2 tds
Gonzalez(Guru Pick) 11 rec/117 yds/10.4 ave/58.5 game/1 td
Seems to me you guys made some evaluations based on emotions. Gonzalez has to be the slowest D1 recruit(BIG IF) at WR that I have ever seen. Going to be interesting to see how a 4.4 corner could take a nap covering this turtle. Big transition from Glendora HS Football to D1 college football.
Guru, get to work and get out of the West Covina area, you are missing so much talent throughout the valley and the list has some very weak holes in it.
I could give you many more examples of your mistakes, but the again, you think you’re the GURU. LOL
For what it's worth, Charter Oak finaly got some press in the LA Times.
But to tell you the truth, they did'nt do them any real favors, calling them the "kings of cupcakes," and taking them to task because of their soft "wimpy" schedule.
Their words, not mine...
Hey Fred:
Better re-track some statements. Homes is not averaging 167 a game. How about 167 total yards.
BIG DIFFERNECE between 83.5 per game and 167.
"Glendora's Andre Holmes as the second best running back in the area. Fans going to the Glendora vs. West Covina game will be seeing two of the best running backs in the SGV in Johnson and Holmes"
Neither ONE has performed on a football field, by average standards.
This is laughable...
Too much GURU glue in your head. Getting all pumped up on the Two Minute commentary with the WRONG INFO.
Gilmore, Barbone, Gaisie, and even Garey as a running QB would eat these guys for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Oh No, not again
Fred,
How about Twin Lakes in El Monte?
-J
Just because your mijo isn't listed as a prospect doesn't make it the Guru fault. Most of us in the SGV follow one team or stay local in the SGV. The Guru gets out and sees players all over So. Cal. Don't hate but rather appreciate all of his efforts. Guru, keep up the good work.
Name the tee time
The Guru is a joke. He came to our school and was pointing out kids who I had to tell where back up J.V. players. He has no clue at all what to look for or what he is doing. He is a nice guy who seems to have a lot of time on his hands, must be nice.
someone earlier mentioned that people in the sgv, coaches and fans don't respect the guru. i'm not sure high school coaches or fans are his target audience. if i'm reading it correctly, he's supplying information to colleges regarding the athletic prowess and upside of the area's high school football players. i'm not sure where high school coaches' or anyone's, other than colleges recruiters opinions of his ability to spot talent matters. am i off base? the list seems to be pretty accurate. i would argue the first player is not the best player in the area. he seems to be a bit clumsy and somewhat lazy in his routes. he also seems to give db's a lot of his chest. but he's young.
FRED, I'm going to offer you a challenge on my home course come friday night. After seeing your score's I might be sorry but it will still be on my dime.
"But, lets not go overboard here. We saw (with great amount humor) on one of the posts that a person hoped that Amat would play top-notch teams in the Inland Empire, such as Corona Centennial, Redlands East Valley, JW North, etc.
My answer: No you don't! We evaluate talent not only in the SGV but in the IE as well and believe me when I tell you, the deeper you go into the IE, the longer your ride home will be after you gets heads handed to you by teams that are way bigger, way faster and way stronger."
That is such an asinine statement.
So are you saying that the Crespi's, Notre Dame's, OLU's, Los Osos, Loyola's are chop liver? Did you forget that Amat plays in the PAC5, you think scheduling an IE team will be a mistake?
Guru
Next time I see you at a game I'll buy you a Diet Coke and a Snickers... I know you dont need the sugar
jcaz you are the best comic relief on this blog. seriously you have the most comments of anyone on this blog besides joe blowhard amat. do you live here or what?
Thanks for the clarification. We had a great experience, looking forward to going to Bishop Amat and taking in the Amat experience when they play Diamond Ranch in two weeks.
If you happen to be at the Charter Oak game Friday night, feel free to pull me over and talk to me at halftime. Just make sure that I get my halftime snack. CO fans are some of the most knowledgeable in the area.
Jcaz...
All I know of this guru is that he predicted that West Covina was going to beat Amat according to Fred but I have yet find this particular comment.
There are comments in response to Fred's claim. I find it strange that the guru and the associated threads disappeared in the first place because of unknown reasons. Again, the entire thread was deleted...
I sense drama. Some sort of drama in relation to South Hills High...
What is going on?
Well.. Guru is smart, non-biased; Unlike Fredo and his understudy RamJOCK. To correct a fallacy, Brock Jacobsen is not Glendora's A.D. anymore. He went to a local middle school, but a very experienced Lee Spengler. A very well rounded coach (with Football and Baseball under his belt) at at the head coaching position at Gladstone and Glendora. Lee Spengler is the one to congratulate and will continue to help prove the the Valley and Southern California that Glendora might not have all the talent, but the fans love their teams and the city supports sportsmanship and class.
Go Tartans, And Go Valley Teams
I'll be the first one here to say that I know little to nothing about this Guru guy.
But, he come's in here and takes a shot and expects people to sit quietly by while he throws out a bunch of BS. How funny.
He says that the Pac5 can't measure up to the IE teams anymore because, the IE has a thousand or more D1 athletes out there on the table.
Which of course means that, it would make it impossible for ND, Crespi or LB Poly to beat any of those teams this year, or in the near future? Hum…
You know, this guy has lost allot of credibility by making some very silly predictions in here recently. In fact, it seems to me that all this guy is good for, is for some great "comic relief."
And BTW, I am not taking a cheap shot at this guy, because like I said earlier, I don't know anything about him and he is, as is anyone else, entitled to an opinion here.
But why is it then that EVEN the Amat haters really really dislike and disrespect this guy?
All the bloger's can't be all wrong can they?
2 options:
Why can't the "Guru" just post insightful blogs like Don or Joe Amat and be happy with that, or those that don't like the "Guru" personally, just flat out say off this blog.
A little control , please!
16 more days till "SMUDGEPOT" YEESSSS!!
You bet I do, I live in the Boise area after relocating from So. Cal, don't have any children.
I know Pascarella & Sutton from Corona Cent have been offered by BSU. Any diamond in the rough types we up here in the Treasure Valley love to have?
James stop with the "we" you are a private business of "I" meaning your now self-employed by yourself only one person.
Wanna Bet MACSWIN has a little vested interest in Boise State....
Come on dude Boise State
that was a little to obvious.Just come out and give us your kids name and if he's been offered yet..Or is he waiting for UCLA to call?
Enough with the negative comments, move on or get each others personal e-mails and bicker amonsgt yourselves.
I like to read the recruiting info on kids! What about Boise State, have they been making any progress as far as with some of the kids in the I.E and SGV? They've recruited very well in those areas in the past....
Yeah, an Amat hater who in this thread says what a wonderful job Steve Hagerty is doing. So, if you don't pick Amat to win every week, you're an Amat hater. Thanks for clearing that up.
SHHS, that was fair, it's your opinion just like mine. BTW, what makes an expert anyway? He's learning and trying to get better. Again, what has he wrote that you disagree with? Can't we agree that this information is if anything, insightful, helpful or both? I don't see the negatives that you do in allowing him to help promote players in the SGV, especially when he's doing it on his own dime.
Open question for all...
Is this the same guru that picked West Covina over Bishop Amat?
I remember a comment made by Fred in regards to this but I could not find it.
Guru and the Tribune go hand in hand. They dont know shyt and just talk shyt. Rankings and evaluation of players and Counties when it comes to HS prep players and teams. He really called out Amat on that post of his. Well we know Guru as a AMAT HATER.
Open question for all...
Is this the same guru that picked West Covina over Bishop Amat?
I remember a comment made by Fred in regards to this but I could not find it.
The Guru is a cool guy, keep on chest bumpin lol and fight on S.H.
FredJ
You're really on this guys nuts. Sorry to say but he's not an expert or ever was here at SHHS.
The administration had a different take, and I don't believe Bogan is at liberty to discuss it.
Remember, it's just your opinion and some have a differnet view.
I've know the Guru for a long time, know what he's about, why some don't like him, why others do like him, etc, etc. Bottom line is he loves high school football, is passionate, and spends many hours evaluating players. It's funny how the complainers never have anything to say about his evaluations. If you read them you can tell he's being honest and doing a thorough job. And when he's answered people on this blog, he's been nothing but courteous, even when he was continuously attacked by parents whose kids probably aren't good enough to crack his list.
FRED:
WAS is the big word! Do a little homework.
Ask yourself why he isn't there or what went down???
I guess your haven't talked with all of the ones we have. And do your really think these coaches are going to express there feelings to the press about a guy who means NADA to them? Doubtful.. You might just be surprised!
I'll answer that Joe, because I've talked to Bogan, who I'm sure can speak on behalf of South Hills. He encouraged the Guru to do what he's doing, and thought he was a spirited individual to have around his football team while he was there. These people who say a lot of us at "SHHS" don't agree probably have some ax to grind. I'll take Bogan's word over anonymous bloggers 100 times out of a 100.
Joe Amat | September 24, 2008 3:41 PM
That's your opinion but alot of us at SHHS dont agree.
We could question, the money issue and how it may generate income to him, but we'll leave it at "DONT AGREE"
GURO WHO ... if you seem to know most coaches, then why don't you tell us who you're. I've not heard one complaint, not one, from any head coaches in the SGV about the Guru. And I'm sure I talk to them a lot more than you do.
If he has zero credibility, then why was he working at South Hills under Steve Bogan, one of the most credible coaches we have.
First of all Mr. James is no Guru. Most coaches I have talked to do not respect or support any thing this guy says.
He has ZERO creditabilty in this community or in the coaching world of the SGV.
Making opinions of who is D1 is only for the coaches and college scouts. Not many coaches are handing over film to this guy, regardless of what he wants you to beleive.
Seriously guys,
Most of the scouting services, recruiting sites, and analysts are *media types* and not necessarily former players and/or coaches. The guy gets out and sees a bunch of players and, after watching enough players you get a pretty good feel for player comparisons.
It's that way in all sports. Most of those guys with radar guns at the diamond couldn't throw one through saran wrap, and the guys that run the basketball meat-markets are just as bad.
Read what's written above. It's not that off. Is there something that you *really* disagree with? Whether you like "high me" or not - if he can share information with some college guys about our players without charging the players a penny- more power to him.
And if you've been on the other side of a recruiting service - the college coach will take as many of these guys as possible, create their recruiting base - then go out and evaluate on their own.
This is a good thing for everyone involved. Really.
Yeah I'm not buying into this guy. After his first go round here in the blog I asked around. Few love him some hate him and most steer clear of him. The writers like him because likes to talk and lines things up with the kids for interviews. But most of the coach's have little or nothing to say good about the so called GURU.
I will admit though going to a Glendora game is class until you see some of the play calling then you just scratch your head and look at each other and go WWWHOOOAAAA did I just see that. And thats after looking like heroes or idiots. We just happen to be getting away with looking like heroes lately.
well coach high me, your first post back and you're still an azzzzzho! Corona Cenn. didn't score 50 something against Mater Dei, look it up willya! Secondly, nice left handed compliment to Amat about playing tough competition! why don't you light a fire under bogan for his cupcakes, or farrar for his soft schedule, just because you've got fred fooled, I know a self promoter when I see one, if you want to discover some gems , why don't you go to Idaho or Eastern Oregon where it's 70 miles between games, all you do is overhear people in the know then pass it on as "your" evaluation, I know for a fact, coaches or recruiting co-ordinators would only use your service, to fetch water or to go call Dominos for them, so quit patting yourself on the back, you're a gravytraining,no-skill,frontrunner, buy a dog,name him clue, then you'll have one!
Bishop Amat - 3
Glendora - 2
South Hills - 2
West Covina - 1
Diamond Ranch - 1
Charter Oak - 1
Interesting! I'm struck at the lack of any mention of some well know players. Specifically, the SGV Tribune's "early" POY candidates... the only one listed here is #6 Muema. What happened to Gilmore and Barbone. Clearly being a high school player of the year has nothing to do with D-1 prowess. I don't know, but I think this Guru piece really points out the fact that a good many athletes are dismissed due to preconceived ideas about who is supose to be good vs. who really is...
Gotta say the player descriptions/evaluations are pretty accurate and I have to back you on the Corona Centennial thing. They are
F...A...S...T...!!!
Can't match that speed....just have to find a way to counter it. Love to see them and LB Poly! A friend saw LBP play Northwestern in Miami and said Nortwestern could not match Poly's speed...and the Florida schools are known for their speed!
That being said, comparing Mater Dei to Chaparrel based on the points scored. It's like a basketball game... how many you score might be dependent on how quickly I score. If you watched the replay of that game, Mater Dei had some quick scores as well which lengthens the game and the number of snaps...leading to a higher scoring game.
Love reading the info - keep it coming. And include a bit more on what colleges might be showing interest.