Hi. Nothing is said that has not been said before.
I am from East and too bad know English, please tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "Expedia offers great rates and last minute deals to."

Thank :-( Doyle.

i am a parent who has seen almost every high school team this year and by far the best running back in the valley by far is tim gilmore of wilson high. he is not even mentioned on this article but he is by far faster than anybody in the san gabriel valley. it is just a shame the he is on such a terrible football team with no blocking what so ever. people need to watch this kid when he goes to college.

King Stud...size matters. "Ask your mom!"

Why have a high school all star game with kids who will be playing at Mt SAC, Citrus and Ucla?

How stupid is that?

Guru A Joke

Now were getting east of Barranca. I do beleive you're right and I know others at Bonita and the surrounding areas that are getting D1 calls at home.

Lets see if the "Real Guru" can open the right door and list the kids and colleges. Then we'll know if he really knows his s---or is just full of s---.

Been waiting for someone to bring up the track. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Keep following the Green..

Deen is not a top 10 qb in the valley. He doesn't check off his receivers and he doesn't the accuracy of Allen.

Allen is much better, forget the fact that he doesn't have a 40 time, he has the arm strength and smarts to play.

I think your missing Terry Paradez from Bonita, who in my opinion is better then both. Has pocket awareness and checks down receivers.

Oh and just to let you know, some folks at the racetrack are wondering when you are going to be there so they can discuss the alleged theft of a friend. OOPS! Don't think the past won't come back to bite you!

If Allen is questionable at the next level, Kaluzny doesn't even belong on any list. 6' 185 and a 5.1/40 without pads!

Get real Guru, you have so many holes in this list and Deen isnt even in the same class as Allen. You ragged on Allen last summer, but who performs better on the field?

Dude, better watch more than one game. Just a SH waterboy.

King Stud

I know size matters in D-1

But another major consideration is getting the ball into the endzone. Some kids just have a knac for it

Afan
Don't you think that you are a little bias? Thank goodness you aren't putting together a football team. Any college recruiter will tell you size matters in football. The Doug Flutie's of the world are the exception rather than the rule.

I am sure a lot of what you said about Allen is true however size in a QB is huge. He's got to be able to look over lineman and see the field. Allen is a solid QB at the HS level but I think he would be better served playing another position if he chooses to go to college.

Joe Amat

I've know Chris Allen since he was 8 years old. He and my son have competed against each other on many levels and have also played side bye side. I'll tell you this If I was putting togeather a team and needed a QB I wouldnt go looking for your prototypical 6'4" 215 lbs. flashy QB I'd take a kid like Chris Allen. He's blue collard roll up your sleaves get the job done coach kind of kid. Dont question his arm strength. He can throw the ball 50+ yards and he can zip it in between the corners on a rope if he has to. His speed although not blazing is deceptive and he's not afraid to tuck it away and run. He comes from a great family and with coaches like the ones at C/O hes a winner.

Plenty of talk about Chris Allen's size. JaMarcus Nelson he's not (he's 6'7") but I'm watching Penn State and their QB is 6'2"/230. and has the same type of frame. Clark from Penn State is pretty put together and not quite as "fleshy" - but he's a few years into a college weight program too.

I'm not making an exact comparisons, or saying Allen is that good as I've only seen Allen in Passing League setting, but seeing this kid brought the size comparison to mind.

Guru Question for you. Cid is a nice player but what about Kyle Salm from San Dimas? The guy is 6'5 285 and paving the way for 3 good high school running backs. He also has a 3.8 GPA in core classes. I heard he can choose between Boise St. and Idaho. Any word? Also what is your take on him?

I DID NOT WRITE THE "FRANK CORONA" MORRISON STATEMENT.

FRED PLEASRE FIND OUT WHO THAT IDIOT IS.

JUST INTO TOWN TO SEE THE ARIZONA / USC GAME AND I READ THIS BS.

ACTUALLY CALLED MORRISON TO WISH HIM LUCK AFTER READING ON THIS BLOG HOW HE MIGHT HAVE NOT BE THERE NEXT YEAR. REMEMBER I SAID I THOUGHT DAMIEN WOULD WIN LEAGUE AND ACTUALLY BEAT GLENDORA.

I HEAR IT WAS CLOSE. TOO BAD I HOPED THE KIDS BOUGHT A BREAK.

SO LOWLIFE PLEASE DON'T USE MY NAME ANYMORE....THAT'S DEFINATELY NOT COOL.

THAT'S PRETTY FREAKING LOW.

hey colts thanks for the flowers last night you left at our school we took it personal and laid an ol fashioned wuppin on the farm 48-7

Joe Amat

You may just NOT get it! Do you think its okay for bloggers to come on here and bash his list when it deals with KIDS? You may think there far game, but not me.

James uses kids for HIS PERSONAL gain anyway you want to massage it. Follow the green backs and you'll see how he wavers as time goes on. Sooner or later he'll move east of grand.

Don, you make some good points.

Franky my boy. I am outstanding and thanks for asking but you are starting to worry to me. You need to stop asking me for kisses that's why you married that cheerleader of yours. Or maybe you and brokeback can get a date together since he seems to love to comment on everything you and I blog on.

Speaking of brokeback I finally figured him out. He logs on to this blog daily just to see what frank and myself are talking about so he can analyze us for the 10000000th time. When there are no marches in SF and West Hollywood for him to attend he logs on this blog to add his 2 cents to our comments. He is amusing to say the least. Brokeback is that bed in mommy's basement comfortable enough for ya? By the way please spell check your posts. Nothing worse than you TRYING feebly to bash us and to misspell it doing so.
Back to good old FC. It's great that you work with kids but that doesn't make you an expert in the least. There is a HUGE different between pee wee ball and HS and college even the pro's. I was expecting a more impressive resume there franky. Keep working with the kids however. There is a lot to be said by working with the youth of America. You can help mold those youths as long as you keep that temper in check. Seems you are doing a better job of that lately. Fred is right. Take everything I say with a grain of salt as this blog is nothing more than entertainment to all of us.

The King has left the building!!

misguided,

Yeah, I kind of teetered the line on that one... but it was too easy. And it proves the point.

I always *welcome* the debate anytime I write something. Please, say how how you disagree (not *you* personally - the generic you) and prove me wrong. Then we'll banter, I'll throw out a bunch of facts (which are truths - that's what *facts* are - things that actually happened) and someone will come back with how they feel or how they want things to be. That kind of *banter* is what creates a blog that functions.

So, regardless of how much me or anyone else pisses you off (again - generic) write how and why you disagree. Highlight any discrepencies or inconsistencies that they write, and come up with some sort of an intelligent rebuttal. So what do you take exception to that was written? Talk about that... instead of the individual... even if they piss you off. JMO

Otherwise it reverts to the over-the-hill, living-in-the-past, overweight, beer-bellied, tattood women, diaper=dropping, Raider-lovin' drunkards from the barrio that ssuuuccckkssssss.... kind of smack that doesn't belong on a sports blog.

Now that's enough... it's Homecoming Weekend. Gotta go Tailgate !:?)

Joe,
It is one thing to come on here and give ones take on a topic . By the way that is as close to bragging as I have seen out of you. But good call you were right. But to come on here constantly bragging about one's own accomplishments and continually bragging on how much you know about coaching and how many kids you have put on starting rosters . Also the fact of constantly belittling other coaches decisions and self praise on how these former players flock back like he is some pied piper with hugs and kisses. This is what seems to be the case with people who disagree with your friend when they slam him or pull his chain.

Screw all you guys. Is it my fault that Morrison can't coach? I've been telling you guys for the past 3 years that he couldn't. I'm glad my son is no longer a part of that program. Damien will get their but torn apart tonight, trust me

Not wanting to sound like I'm standing on Jimmies sack, all I ever expected was for him to end his evaluations with “that I have seen” . . . . there isn't that easy.

Really though, not one single guy at Northview, Garey, Walnut, Rosemead, Rowland, Diamond Bar, SEM, Covina, Los Altos, Azusa, Baldwin Park, Pomona, Wilson, Damien, Workman, Ganesha, Nogales, Arroyo, Bassett, LP, Sierra Vista, Bonita, Mountain View, Duarte, or Gladstone is up to the standards of “the list”. Not one from over two dozen schools. Not even one?

How about a moment of truth: guru, in the past four years, how many total games have you seen involving teams outside of the San Antonio League?

I just wish bloggers would come out and say what they actually disagree with. Too often people come in here with a blast to put someone down - but don't really have anything that they specifically disagree with.

Like the Guru - they slam his list- but don't say what they disagree with or who they'd take off to put on their suggestions.

Or My Friend, who people slam just to get his gander up so he'll respond and they can slam him some more. But rarely does anyone come out and say what he wrote that they disagree with.

Or when I'd come on and say that hiring a young, inexperienced coach is not only bad for a football team - but unfair to the coach and an experienced coach with an experienced staff could turn things in the right direction in a hurry - no one comes on here and says that I was wrong.... well... because I wasn't

... and for what it's worth, I know dozens of GREAT coaches that never coached HS or above.... but even more HS coaches not worthy to hold their clipboard. The level doesn't matter.

But you get the picture!

If my Attorney or Accountant is gonna give me some professional advice or suggestion it is called a qualified opinion based on his experience and his education, even if its free advise. And I may add there are professional liability issues that comes with dispensing advice or opinions. I would expect the same from the so called Guru, if he is providing his expertise or qualified opinion about local talent, he needs to back it up with some credentials and experience and respond directly without all of his nonsense rethoric, otherwise he's no different than the quack dispensing prescription drugs without an MD license on Valley Blvd.

Joe Amat

He’s now just jumped on the bandwagon after seeing one game at Mt.Sac? Maybe the green looks better by getting on the wagon from the talent at Mt. Sac. Keep moving east because kids are on the radar with calls coming into there homes each week. I would bet he continues to figure out where his relationships end or should I say are not trusted.

One thing I will agree with Don and you, his time is numbered, because its easy to figure out this clowns objectives.

misguided one ,
Did you read that breaking news post about damien, Send that post on all that great stuff along with the resume . It sounds like they need an excellent coach with your qualifications.

brokeback moment...my God ...the clarity of it all!

IT"S MY WIFE!!!!!!!!

No she's in Spain looking at some retirement property. Do you think they have the Internet there as well?

BM...do you really thinks it's my wife?

Here's how it seem's to always go.

First, FC blabs the big blab and throws a bone or two out there like he is some kind of know it all.

Then King Stud (AKA Donkey boy) feels compeled to take a shot, just for schitz and giggles.

Then FC either responds in kind, or ignors KS. So KC goes out there and thows out another long winded diatrab.

Of course KS, takes exception, so naturaly he has to say something, ANYTHING just to get FC's attention and to let him know that he is still alive.

And it goes on and on.

You know it would'nt be so bad if FC would just make a simple post and leave it at that, but no !! he has to go there and blow out a wind gasket ot two on the rest of the blogers in here.

I think that's what must set off Donkey boy the most, but to tell you the truth, I just can't figure them out.

They must be related to each other, you know husbund and wife. How else do you explain the love hate realtionship ?

Another brokeback moment, I think ??

JUST TALKED TO MY NEPHEW AT DAMIEN ABOUT THE RIVALRY GAME TONIGHT AND HE SAID MORRISON MADE A COMMENT TO THE TEAM ABOUT THIS BEING THE LAST SEASON AND THAT HE WANTS TO SEND THEM OUT CHAMPS. GUESS THE HATCHET IS FINALLY GOING TO COME DOWN.

Hey my misguided friend is back. God I miss you. How's life been treating you lately. Mortgage problems? Job instability? Money problems? Too touchie feely for you? Come on give me a big kiss you obcessed fan you! Okay maybe just a hug. Seems like alot of anger coming from such a little man. You crack me up, Fred's right....I shouldn't take anything you say seriously. You being a joke of a man. Have fun working yourself into a lather. No resume would have been good enough for you. Check your school's staff for previous high school experience. OPPPPS don't want to do that.

Fred you're right it feels better already.

Check trying. You look smaller each time.

Wow that was a whole lot of double talk. Either you sell cars for a living or you were behind all these low interest loans.Either way get to the point. What schools did you coach at and forget the records because by all that writting evidently they had losing records. Just let us know where the x's and o's were put into all these winners with the hugs and kisses.You are correct on the ignoring aspect because you continue to ignore the main question. Where did you coach?????????? A simple answer will do . No need for all the blowing of your own horn.

long story short... never coached high school or above. is it really that hard of a question to answer?

so what you are saying franky my boy is your only coaching experience is with 6th and 7th graders? Say it ain't so!!

Ignoring someone exposes them. A coward needs a group. Being a bully is easy. Standing up to a bully is easier. Saying outlandish comments only works when no one does any homework. The truth is never under a rock, snakes are. Picking a fight is not the same as being in a fight. Wanting to be the man is not the same as being the man.

Everytime you ask me a question you're looking sideways. You always ask the group...."Hey GROUP...he hasn't answered "OUR" question. That's called, "LOOKING SIDEWAYS" where I grew up. It's a sign of weakness. And from what I can gather, as a coach and as a man, that's something we both know you are. WEAK.

The best coaches produce the best players. The best parents produce the best kids. The best coaches are like parents in so many ways and their kids reflect those values. No one will tell you otherwise with all my COACHING AWARD winning kids. You remember "that" award right? That's the one the players and coaches vote on. Team work, great attitude, great work ethic, coachable, pleasure to be around. The can't miss kid. Three boys and all have that hardware. Spartan Award JV Basketball, Spartan Award Frosh Soph Wrestling, Back to Back Viking Award Basketball 7th and 8th grade. But I'm a bad guy? Right. You're suppose to give references with a resume right? Got those. Maybe you ignored those good deeds. Need a loan?

The toughest coaching job I ever had I walked away from. A select group of parents were up in arms and words were exchanged. I wanted the kids to get ready for a higher level...HIGH SCHOOL. The parents wanted to win games now and ease up on the kids. MY singular goal was to have them ALL make their Freshmen teams. Being tough was going to happen...I thought, "Let's get a jump on DEMANDING" Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

EVERY PLAYER (Except one) MAKE THEIR HS TEAM! This year actually. You'll see them on the court this basketbal season. MOST IF NOT ALL WILL START OR SEE MAJOR MINUTES! I expect one of them to break the all time school scoring record. I told him so many times. He was shocked when I told him in front of his mom. I have a bet with my son that this kid will break the all time scoring record at a local HS or I lose $100.

Interesting thing about this kid. Every practice he wanted just to shot 3's. If he missed he gave up. I told him he needed to do more.

ACTUALLY I DEMANDED HE DO MORE. He needed to be a LEADER and TAKE CHARGE. We butted heads. When he didn't make the 7th grade school team. I held him when he cried at practice that night. That's the tough part of coaching. seeing kids fail and wonder ...why??? Actually held several players that night. I promised them all I would make them tougher mentally..They are. Today all are ballers and most will shine brightly very soon. STAY TUNED!

The other day a kid from that team yelled, HEY COACH!!!..Came up and gave me a hug. Haven't talked to his parents since I left the team. Time will heal all wounds i'm sure. Kids know the difference between being a hard a$$ and being honest. I'm FIRM but FAIR...TOUGH BUT CARING! Some say Brutally HONEST..my daughter tells me I grew up differently. People here aren't used to hearing it the way I say it. BLUNT! No one sugar coated it in Boyle Heights...or wanted you to.

So to your question. What's my resume look like? A lot of winners. A few "wish I could have done more for the kid" and a few..."I wonder what ever happend to that kid?'. That's my resume. 20 years of coaching kids who's parents couldn't, wouldn't shouldn't or can't coach without hurting kids or playing ego games that hurt kids where it lasts the longest. Deep inside. Is that to Oprah for you?

The worst parents aren't the ones that played before, you see them coming, It's the ones who NEVER PALYED. You know the PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE TYPES. To your face you're a saviour and behind your back you're Attila The Hin! lol

I do have a confession about that one kid that hasn't made his high school team YET. Best player on that travel team by far, Sean Rooks...yes that Sean Rooks will flat A$$ tell you. "THAT KID CAN FLAT OUT PLAY!!!" Played travel ball with his son Cameron. Coach Lorenzo Hall. Yes First Step Founder and Assisatnt Coach At Riverside Community College will tell you , "That kid can play on any team" Can shoot, dribble with either hand, plays the point like a veteran and is as coachable as they come!" Yet the verdict is out on playing this year, That's PLAYING not PLAYING TIME.

Straight A student. When he comes back from his 1st Major debate Tournament we'll talk and laugh about it all. Loves his school, loves his friends and loves his life. You see SPORTS REVEALS CHARACTER. HE HAS IT IN SPADES....every challenge is just an OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE.

No vindictive coach, no hating blogger, no drive by artist, no coward with a keyboard can ever change the man I am to my kids and to the players I've coached or the relationship we've built. Like that kid that hugged me even though leaving that team was messy puts it all into perspective. I'll be cheering ALL THOSE KIDS THIS YEAR...knowing I prepared them to handle their dreams of making their HS teams. That's my happy resume. And it has nothing to do with W/L records. I don't coach losers because losers never win. Ain't figured that one out yet?

The best part of being a coach is helping someone "ELSE" do something they are afraid to dare to dream.

Maybe that's why Bishop Amat Alumni came back to the school they love. Character last forever. And no drive by Amat haters will diminish why all those coaches came back. or why my former players HUG me when they SEE me. Love brother. FOUNDATION OF ANYTHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

SHHS,

I think you've got it wrong a little bit. No one has anyone fooled. From the few conversations I've had with JE from his media days - good guy. One of the nicer more positive, not looking to drum up controversy kind of media guy. Right up there with FJR. Dealing with him as a coach at your school is different... and you have that different perspective. I get that.

I'm sensing from what you wrote - and don't give it away- but you feel he slighted some players and favored those that may have been a little more, shall we say. well off. Am I getting close? So are we really just bitter about that? I can almost understand that. And it's fine. Really.

But really My Friend and Don both had some good points down below - that are both quite true. Don brings up a good point in what is dangerous is what he *doesn't know*. That's true with ALL recruiting services-just like it is with our Guru.

Here's the catch though... there are tremendous *checks and balances*.

If he "doesn't know" and misses on a kid in his backyard... how long will schools come to him for information? Not long! So let that happen and he becomes another blogger with an opinion just like us.

The name "Guru" apparently doesn't bug me as much as it bugs others. We all have pseudonyms of sort, don't we. Geez whiz , I'm excited that we finally have "King Stud" - if you can believe that! Makes me laugh, but it beats a bunch of anonymouses for sure. My name might not even be Joe. Imagine that. So guru is personally fine with me. My dictionary defines guru as: expert, authority, pundit, leading light, master, specialist; whiz. Maybe expert, authorirty or master is overboard, but what if he was billed as the SGV Scouting *Pundit* would that be less threatening and make everyone feel better? Lots of media types are called "pundits". Same thing. better?

On the other side of the coin, My Friend points out that he's really not hurting anyone. Maybe he's not "helping" as many that want to be (or need) help, but what has been written about any of the players that is that off base. He didn't evaluate EVERY kid in the valley for us, but be careful what you wish for. Some of those evaluations might be met with even more disdain.

Remember it's an opinion... just like we all have.

Gotta agree with the Guru on the Mt. Sac call. I went out and watched them play last Saturday night. Lamison, Austin, Joe in fact the whole Mt. Sac team are playing "lights out" football right now. It's the first time I've ever been to a Sac game, gotta say I really enjoyed the environment.

In regards to Kyle Lengyel from DR, we thought that his junior film was OK, but we felt that he was going to be a senior film player that had a nice upside.

Well, in every game that we've seen DR in person or on film, he is clearly the best player on the field...arguably better than Sermons that is going to UCLA.

Air Force would be a great place for Kyle to call home for the next four years and he would be the second player out of the Valley that would be going to the academy.

One last note...there have been some that have said that I've been a little harsh on Chris Allen and have graded Cameron Deen a little high.

Well, I guess it's time to get both sides upset with us. At this present moment, the best QB in the San Gabriel Valley doesn't play at South Hills, or Charter Oak or Bishop Amat or any of the high schools in the SGV.

In our opinion, the best QB in the SGV resides at Mt. SAC and his name is Nick Lamaison. We've seen him play twice this season (PCC and Riverside CC) and all I can tell you is that I am taking that kid before Deen and Allen. If you haven't seen Mt. SAC play this season, you owe it to yourself to watch him and the Mounties play.

They are a fun team to watch! And while I am at it, Jon Joe is doing a great job up there and will be going somewhere when the season is over. The same thing applies to CO's Matt Austin who is absolutely ballin right now.

yea what kind of coach were ya? werd up

Guru were wearing a college sweatshirt lastnight at the SH-Los Al game? I was alittle busy, but i thought i saw someone entertaining the WaSu folks....

still,
You have quite a nerve coming on here talking about no takers. Many times you come on here wriiting about your coaching experience and your well coached teams. Again the challenge is for seeing as you like to put the challeges out. What is your coaching backround and what if any schools and or teams have you coached. Although i truely believe you will never answer this question because there is probably no answer but maybe this will shed light as to giving credence to your posts.

Joe Amat

You keep the list, but I could add and Sub, but it will only matter come signing day. I think there others in the valley east of Barranca that are on there way to D1, that the Guru simply doesn't know about. Wonder Why? Just keep thinking about it? Not hard to figure out!

One hint= Green

You see, some of us over here just may have friends and family at other schools and people who work in those districts.

James is far from be labeled as a GURU over here. You seem to be able to figure out most, but this one you're behind the lines on.

Jay Anderson will not play college football. He will get drafted in baseball right out of high school. Baseball is the number one sport for Anderson, McClanahan, and Ruiz. McClanahan will be a division 1 catcher and Ruiz is the can't miss prospect.

What happened to Jay Anderson-soph.?????

Joe Amat

I like your math, facts, figures etc.

One point. Most leagues (not teams) will have ZERO Division One football players.

KS not inferring you do but as a general question.

KS I mean why hate on the Guru? That's my point. Quibble about "hairs across your butt" (had to use that Joey) but the truth is no one will take up the challenge for fear of getting exposed as a blowhard or worst...find out that what they knew from days gone by is no longer relevant.

Example. The spread offense. A kid comes over my house who's Dad was all world in HS and went on to Stanford and he tells me his Dad doesn't think his experience would be useful in today's football. Doesn't even recognize the spread.

Look at Joe Paterno. He sent all his assisatnts to spend some time with Urban Myers to learn their SPREAD ATTACK....what is Papa Joe now...what ranked 3 in the Nation after calls for him to step down? Less talk and no action.

So again my point to Don and Trojan Man. seeing as one is pretty consistent with his breathe of football knowledge and the other played college ball and coached as recent as 1998.

That's not a putdown to either men. It's an opportunity to give credence to a source that COULD help kids IF everyone just GAVE THE GUY A CHANCE! I mean ISN"T EVERYONE ALWAYS B8TCHING THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS...SEEMS TO ME IT'S ALL ABOUT ADULT EGOS.

Does Guru HURT any players chances for a scholarship???? NOPE! Does he pass along a decent review of our area? YUP! So why oh why BAG ON THE GUY...???? Because it's the stupid thing to do. CLEARLY!

Sometimes the guy telling you the truth is the guy everyone hates the most. Look at the economists that said we were headed towards a GLOBAL RECESSION IF NOT GLOBAL DEPRESSION 2 years ago!.....are they still IDIOTS today?

The money thing is just to show that no one will take the challenge. An extra carrott if you will. But I'll wait. Still no takers huh? wow.

Perfect time to separate the talkers for the walkers.

Why does everyone hate on this guru? I have yet to see anyone on this blog remotely come close to his analysis of local players. Disagree with him or not his info is valuable. If colleges want to use him let them. Colleges also use film and send assistant coaches on recruiting trips to see players and most likely use tools like guru's info in the process. Sounds like this is nothing more than a bunch of SGV donkey haters out there!!

I always get a kick out of franky offering to toss a few pesos's out there all in the name of HS football. Way to go franky! ha ha

Just curious but does this guy cover anything west of the Covina area?!?

Relax and Shut Up,

Guess you guys didn't read down to where I posted, “I have no problem with the guy's business or even his characterization of the talent”. I actually agree the more attention we get for the kids who play ball locally, the better. My issue all along has been the presentation or selling of the guy as an “all knowing”, or “guru” source of talent info in the valley.

The self-aggrandizing terms like “our office” and over use of draft day cliches trouble me too, but I guess that could be quibbling and I'll give the guy points for recognizing Kyle Lengyel's talent after watching him play one game against Amat, but his view of the talent pool is so narrow that anyone not familiar with the area would believe we only have 5 or 6 teams in the area rather than 30 or 40.

The problem of course isn't what this guy knows but what he doesn't.

SHHS,

Look, I know you have a hair across your butt for this guy from whatever he did or didn't do at "the Hills" (and you have every right to feel whatever you feel - you were there I wasn't), but really - he's AS credible as half these scouting/recruiting guys that are out there. And if you don't think so - YOU'VE never been out there.

They are ALL "one man's opinion"... and they have to convince the COLLEGE that their opinion is valid - not us. If not, he'll be just another blogger with an opinion in no time.

FWIW, I've seen everyone here except Allen (next week) and I think that the Huskies are the ones a little high on the list... so that should make you happy.

Riddle me this.. who would YOU put onto the list... and who would YOU take off?

yOU are right there are way better players in othere places everybody is just on amats and every other big name;s nuts you have to be kinding me watch the LB from amat(yuotube) and tell me if u see anything speacial seriously

yOU are right there are way better players in othere places everybody is just on amats and every other big name;s nuts you have to be kinding me watch the LB from amat(yuotube) and tell me if u see anything speacial seriously

Hey that's cute. Someone has taken it upon himself impersonate me. How funny.

He has to be brokeback material.

Another brokeback moment.

Don, SHHS and Trojan Man,

You guys are usually poised. Why do you let this guru shake you up so much? If colleges are indeed paying him then he does in fact have the dream job we would all love. No need for prsonal attacks against him. I have the inside that for sure USC, UCLA, Washington, Washington St. Arizona St. Boise St. and UNLV are actually paying for his services. Mor epower to him.

Joe Amat

If you think this list is the "Elite" that will sign, then your not that smart. This guru is not in the know what all players. Do you really think all the coaches are going to call this guy with the updates or give him the leads? He's a loose cannon and runs his mouth.

Just one mans opinion and we all know where he comes from...

wondering how do i get you game film?

sgvfootballfan-does anybody really DESERVE an answer on a blog?

So Fred
Is the Guru going to answer my question about Kyle Lyngel or not.Fred why have this guy(or girl)give their opinion about athletes but not give people answers that they deserve to here ?????????

An SGV "combine" is a pretty good idea. It would be nice to see them all in one place. Maybe having an incoming senior combine on a Sat afternoon in conjunction with the outgoing summertime HOF game that evening.

Now that'd be a day for the scouts - no?

Here's some interesting info for everyone to chew on as you throw out names for those "can't miss" defensive tackles form "So & So HS"

High School FB Student Athletes
1,071,775

High School Senior FB Student Athletes
306,221

NCAA FB Student Athletes
61,252

NCAA Freshman FB Roster Positions
17,501

Percent High School to NCAA
5.70%

And that is EVERY level of NCAA - not just D1.

Someone else can do the math and subtract all the players who are non-scholarship DIII, DII, the DI-AA Football Championship Subdivision non-scholarship guys, The Ivy league, Patriot League, Military Academies and all of the "walk-ons" in the nation. I'm not sure how many are left but I think I remember somewhere between 1% and 2% of HS players get football scholarships. Maybe the Guru has this figure.

Bottom line when you go to a game Friday night and each team has a 50 man roster - on the average 1 or 2 of those guys will get a scholarship. Unless some other school like Amat, South Hills, or CO has two or three guys. The that lowers your odds even more - maybe subtracts ALL of the players on that field.

SGV Gurus Top Ten list has got to be the "elite-of-the-elite". Everyone wants THEIR guy on the list... but who on the list would you remove in their place?

Absolutely Fred. That's my point.

Everyone wants Guru's attention and affirmation and IF they don't get it they crap on him for dong what they would give their left nut to do. And then they'd give their right nut to be a sportswriter. Just to be heard and see all those games for free!

Nutless wonders that the drive by artists are it's no wonder all they do is challenge people anonymously.

I'll take your advice Fred and not things so seriously. Wish others would do the same. Hey! It's only sports!

He's a friend and I know he works hard at what he's doing. Some of you need to relax and stop taking it so seriously.

Here's the Modus Operondi

SGV GURU...you are a joke! You Know NOTHING! Fred How can you support this guy!
Very questionable credentials!

Oh...by the way...Mr. Guru ..sir...I was wondering what do you think of ( fill in the blank)....it's important that YOU acknowledge (fill in the blank)

Dude gets it coming and going!

I'm not the guru, if it was me, I'd have Rhodes and Sumler on the underclassmen list.

Put up ,
Is that you DBT using yet another post name . I see a few references in your post that seem to give you away.If so I am still waiting for that resume.

hey fred
just thinking about the underclassman and wondering wheres that kid from duarte.Jordan Canada when this kid plays he's a beast i saw him play gladstone and all 11 players from gladstone could not bring him down.this kid is built if healthy duartes season wouldnt be the way it is.now that he's back he's making a big impact for this team.the point is how can you forget this kid

Mr. Guru
How did you completely miss the boat on Kyle Lyngel from Diamond Ranch.From what I've seen probably the best LB in the valley. I know you never respond but can you please respond to this question.

Okay Donnie...you're up. $500 seems like a nice contribution to better the lives of sgv players, don't you think?

I find it odd that people will come on here and nit pick and back bite and get way too personal over a game that is on it's face incredibly difficult to succeed in. Let's take a look back at some of the 'talent" that was being talked about and strutted around as the next...next leve.l..can't miss guys.

Oh wait. They are mostly out of football. Went to see a Citrus Collge game the other day and this unheralded kid out of San Dimas was all over the field. Had like 20 tackles. 2 or 3 broken pass plays and a crucial sack and another fumble causing monster hit.

Kid can flat out play football. Better than any linebacker I'd seen in a whole. But to hear blogger talk San Dimas is sofy, plays no body and yada yad yada.

Yet there were many LBs from bigger schools sitting on the bench while this kid made play after play. Outstanding pursuit and constantly around the ball making plays.

Bronze Withem is his name. WHO??? Exactly. Someone will pick this kid up or he will just be an unforgettable player every coach wishes he had 10 more just like him.

SGV GURU'S job and opinion matters less the the masses than it does to individual players. Understand that. No one phones it in...you play your way in.

Maybe I should have asked GURU for his permission to put up the CHALLENGE but then again...was anyone really going to take a stab at the $500?

I'd like to see Guru, Trojan Man and Joe Amat in one room with the "SERVICE". Instaed of seeing it as a put down opportunity look at it as a way to do what everyone always thumps their chest about....THE KIDS!

Here's my suggestion. Get the best players in the Valley and have them work out together. Speed, conditioning, technique, one on one drills with the best coaches in the valley...or they COULD go to BISHOP AMAT and just play for the Lancers. LOL

Don you up to?

Joe you up?

Anyone?

Hey Mr. Guru, what about Pancho Villareal 5'5' 380lbs from Ganesha, now this kid has 10 sacks, is a stud! He is the mini me Fridge.

FYI

I do apologize for calling him A JOKE . That is getting a little personal . And as far as the challenge , WHY ? My breaking down of films STOPPED in 1998. Best of luck to the SGV GURU & to the guy calling me out ...FEEL GOOD ?

Fight On
TM

My problem with the “Guru” is just that. He is no Guru although he seems perfectly happy having Fred present him as such. His knowledge of area players is strong where he has been following the team, like, oh, say South Hills. He admitted a couple weeks ago on this blog that he was attending his first Amat game at Kiefer.

Well how in the heck can you be, “A recognized leader in a field”, (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guru ) when the biggest hotbed of football talent in the area is unfamiliar territory?

I have no problem with the guy's business or even his characterization of the talent, such as it is, but before he is accepted as the area's “guru” he better make sure he knows ALL of the teams, not just one or two, and is familiar with ALL of the talent not just the kids who attended Sparq camps or played in the Huskies passing league. Sins of omission are still sins.

"In regards to Leonard Rhodes...we literally just got some Walnut game film into our office last night. We will watching a lot of his tape this weekend."

Im Sorry...But if you can say that you only got film on him last night, that just tells me that no real scouting has been done.

Im not trying to attack anyone. But High School football is six weeks into the season. A lot of scouting should have been done prior to that. But obviously it hasnt been done. It just seems like that the "rankings" are based on film you have gotten. But if you are truly scouting Leonard and other players should have been scouted a long time ago. But that hasnt been the case. These rankings are based on the film you have only seen. So their is bias to these players. How can that be real scouting if you havent seen all the teams in this league.

Though your case is subjective, your report really doesnt indicate who is out there. Especially if you just got film last night.

So how can you make an accurate ranking without all the variables. The bottom line is you cant.

You cant be scouting and reporting if you havent seen the whole picture.

Trojan Man. Why is this guy a joke? The truth is he's opened a business. Like it or not, colleges have used his services. Maybe you think, "used" as in Kleenex or toilet paper, but nevertheless colleges "use" his services and apparently that service is growing.

I don't know of any college that has the money or resources to waste. Especially given the tough economic times ahead. So maybe the colleges are shifting their "costs" to local services as a primer for first hand eye witness "scout" work and coming "out" after some "prep" work by sgv guru and others like him.

What is it with people who hate anyone with an opinion. Are people's egos so fragile that they have to attack, attack,attack! Violence, in this case verbal/written, is that last act of an ignorant man. Trojan Man and others come off as ignorant when you call this guy a joke.

Why is he a joke. I've said it before the BEST sports "authority" with his own "glossary" comments on the global landscape of coaches, theory, 'nads!, prospects, busts, mental preparedness, toughness ect. ect. ect. And you want to know how often Jim Rome put on a jock strap....TRY ZERO! Bob Costas ZERO, Charlie Weiess ZERO, Mike Fratello ZERO! Mel Kipper ZERO!

So GURU doesn't like your guy or ranked him lower...so FW! When was Tom Brady picked in the draft? How about Ryan Leaf? It's a crap shoot. So get off the he's a joke stupidity.

Remember in life, like in sports, the best or most gifted don't always rise to the top. Instead the cream that rises to the top is the one who works the hardest and the longest and never gives up on his dream. GURU's dream is to build this scouting service. Wasn't must bloggers silent "dream " to coach or play professionally. Well Trojan Man wouldn't you honestly like to do what Guru does for a living? And get all teh long term perks of staying in sports long after the KNEES AND SHOULDERS ARE GONE?

Better yet

Trojan man you're up first.

SGV GURU. I'll pay for the GURU CHALLENGE. One day, film break down. $500 to the man who can stay with GURU and his group. Break down film, WRITE IT DOWN and MAKE a Presentation of the COLLEGE READY strenghts and weaknesses of comparable players. $500 dollars for teh chance to shut up the service. Donate it to charity if you'd like.

Remember this NO ONE thought Damien's Harper was good enough and he was on the Trojan field last Saturday. Check back to Aram's best DBs or Top Players.....Harper was on no one's list. Like I tell him everytime I see him..."Hey Harper. Question: What do you tell Chapelle Brown? "HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!" (inside joke)

So are their any takers?

No one quetsioned Tra's ability only his grades. He will end up at Mt. Sac. By the way TM do you know who Estrus Crayton is? Sumler wil go the same route.

sgv scouting

James, there is one thing for sure, YOU DONT KNOW IT ALL..

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS JOB?

I DONT THINK YOU WANT TO TAKE ON ANYBODY IN PERSON, BECAUSE SOME MAY JUST SHOVE IT UP YOUR A--. NOBODY FEARS YOU! STILL ACTING LIKE A LIKE A-- THAT YOU ARE.

YOU'RE NOT THE s--- AND WE DO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU.

Comments from SGVscouting guy "Plus, if he plays well in the All-Star game -- against the best players in the area -- it's only going to enhance his chance."

Or you could send your kid to Amat and get more exposure by playing some of the best teams in the country and really enhance his chances.

Wow

You are really sticking to the All Star Game theory.

Instead of being negative, I will add this:

Here is what a Summer All Star Game can do.

If a kid at a division one progam gets hurt in Spring Football and/or a Feb. signer does not pan-out (trouble with the law etc.)... then a college may look to an All Star Game. To fill a need.

SGV Scouting

Touche

SGV Scouting

Touche

JE,

Beautiful comeback. Keep doing what you do.

About the HOF game - I'd hate that idea if I coached soccer, wrestling or basketball.

size and frame and sgv
thank you for the information. i wish success for both cid and bowens.

To the person that is called Husky Hater...If I'm biased to Deen, then people like Greg Biggins at ESPN and the people at Rivals.com must have a SH bias as well. Both of those reputable services have Deen graded a D-1 QB with Rivals listing him as a 3-star QB.

Hey, I've got an idea for you, if you can't stand me, why don't you tell me in person tonight at CDF when I will be hosting the recruiting coordinator and quarterback coaches from Washington State that will be in attendance at the game.

Oh that's right...you'd rather sit at your computer and act like you know it all.

Here is what we like about having the Hall of Fame game in December. It would be treated like the NFL's Senior Bowl.

You would have a week of practices, with most of them with pads on, that would be open to college coaches so that they can take a look at some kids that they may have missed during the fall.

If the player catches the eye of a coach, most likely that coach will ask us for film on the kid (if they don't have..which shouldn't be the case since we send a truck load of film out on teams in the SGV), they watch the kid on the tape, and if they like what they see, hey, there may be an offer.

Plus, if he plays well in the All-Star game -- against the best players in the area -- it's only going to enhance his chance.

This whole week would give an opportunity for players to get a final look while coaches are in town looking for players.

Plus, you'd be able to see all the stars of the season, which can't be said if you have the game in July when many of the players have to report to colleges for summer camp.

If they can do it in the IE, they can do it in the SGV. It is up to Jim Brownfield and the rest of the boys and the HOF Foundation.

We need to get the ball rolling and our voices to be heard so that it can happen.

In regards to Leonard Rhodes...we literally just got some Walnut game film into our office last night. We will watching a lot of his tape this weekend.

Trojan Man

Sumler is a tough back and does run hard. you said to ask SH defense about him.. Well I've seen the tape. Sumler didnt get his usual 200+ yards and he didnt get his usual 3-5 TD's I think the numbers were 138 yds rushing and 1 TD Sort of interesting how he stopped running up the middle by half time. All big gains came on the outside. The middle was anchored by Mike LineBacker Chris Bowden. Bowden has been shutting down the top backs in the valley for the last two years. Dont believe me ask Mc Bride, Snowden, Williams all had big numbers going into SH games. All for some reason came away with less than convincing games when they faced the SH defense. At 6'1 230 Bowden gets the job done. I invite you to to ask Kofler,Gano,Ferrar or Maggorie what they think of Bowden and the SH Defense. Buy the way SH offense maybe of to a slow start but there Defense is only allowing 12 pts per game on the average. Have a delightful day

oldschoolpanther,

This guy is a JOKE . Tra is probably THE TOUGHEST kid out there week in & week out . Bobby DOES have the best leg in the SGV too . But remember RHS is WEST SGV , which means ,VERY little respect .ONCE again... HOW DO YOU KNOW about Sumler's grades ? Just ask ANY of the South Hills Defense how tough Tra is ?

FIGHT ON
TM

Fred,
How about Jay Anderson from Amat? he's only a sophmore and that kid can run. did you see him in the st. francis game?

Sevenduece,
as far as bowens goes, he's only played part of two games so far this season..he's coming back from an injury so no one has seen too much of him yet

Fred you said don't hate on this guy, but I have to tell you i have the hots for him. he gets me going. oh baby. another brokeback moment.

sevenduece

Size and Frame.

Potential to put on weight.

Aggressiveness.

Potential to learn football line-techniques.

Grades

SAT/ACT Scores.

Are the most important items that a High School Lineman is judged upon for the next level.

Only 85 kids on scholarship at each Division One School.

30 years ago it was 105 scholarships per school

40 years ago the number of scholarships was unlimited... plus freshman could not play on the varsity.

Scholarships are for one year interval...

Letter of Intent Day is in Feb.... Verbal Offers and Acceptance of Verbal Offers are not binding.

At most schools 1/3 of the incoming scholarship freshman will not be around by the time their class graduates.

brokebackmoment,
please dont disparage used car salesman in that way, the guru has zero chance of showing any real views when he is paid by sh to give their players pr. we all know who are you guru, however , please dont talk crap about used car salesman until you can match thier tax return

am i wrong in thinking the cid kid from wc isn't that impressive? i think he's a good high school lineman, but not sure that will translate to the next level. seals and 54 from dr are good. still so impressed with 54. is he going to the air force? if so, they're getting a good one. bowens is physically imposing and seemed to turn it up a notch against st. francis, but i wonder about his tenacity. i'm sure you all have seen much more of him than i have. am i off base with that one? would like to see the qb from co. i've heard a lot and want to witness it for myself. maybe next friday

ohh the guru is an idiot .. missing out jeremy brown from los altos who has a scholarship to ohio state .. once again... coach waterboy

Yeah that kid #74 is Marcus Aurelli .. 6'7 is the actual height .. he's the real deal ... unstoppable, strong, great technique, and probably the best conditioned lineman that LA has

there's a kid that goes to LA. He's like #79 or #74 or something like that. The kid looks big, at least 6'5 or 6'6, he's a big tackle and iv'e seen him play a couple of times. He looks like a real good lineman.

Sumler does not have the grades to get an offer so I think the Guru knows a little of what he's talking about. Sorry Rauley no need for your services at the D1 level.

What about Andrew Rodriguez (#44) or Christian Vargas (#30) from Northview? These are 2 of the best LB's in the valley. Don't believe me...go watch them play!!!

I do not understand how Tre Sumnler gets no love. I also think that Bobby Maldenado is the best kicker in the valley, but I guess the Guru knows everything.

Fred – James

So many points that could be dissected.

One that stands out... for me at least.

An ALL STAR Game? Really? An All Star Game?

Seriously?

Do you really think that ANY college would want to look at any film from an All-Star-Game for their February Letter of Intent Day?

Remember fans, this is just one guy opinion, and one guy that has very limited knowledge and experience in this field.

If your kid is being recruited the call comes to your house or the coach. James simply doesn't know everything that goes on behind close doors and most coaches outside of Bogan would not give him the info.

Just consider the Source!

The bottom line from what I heard the guru should be hired as Deen's agent if he's not already being paid for his services. What's so pathetic is Allen is having a more productive year actually looking in the paper today the kid from Bonita is even performing better than both of them but the guru insists on marketing his own quarterback from south hills when he supposedly doesn't work for them anymore before anyone else. Yeah right whatever! I'm personally a Miramonte quarterbacks fan myself and wish fairness was not an issue but oh well politics again Huskies first everyone else second. Performance means nothing.

Hey Guru, I have to be honest. Deen from Sh is way overrated. He is big with a decent arm. Has average footwork and is not very accurate. He may get an offer somewhere because 6'2" 190 will do that but I am not at all impressed by him!

Are you serious?

This Guru is so bias when it comes to South Hills. Deen is the most overrated OB in the SGV. No disrespect, but who do they play, well not until the end of their schedule. Look he's putting up marginal numbers. Let him go against Amat, CO, Rosemead again which was luck on his part. I know some people will say "I'd rather be lucky" but does that truly mean you're the best in the valley. This team is truly in shambles. Weak QB, weak OL and receivers are too young or cocky to understand the game. Their offense does too much jumping around and not enough hard nose offense. That OL is soft, look at SD's OL, outstanding. I don't think their defense can carry them much more. And with the loss to Goss, who know's how this team will pick themselves up. With Walnut, Rowland and WC waiting in the winds, I don't think this team is of a championship caliber. I think with the coming years this program needs to pick themselves up by the boot straps.

Fred you said don't hate on thie guy, but I have to tell you that it's tough not to.

He comes in here always saying some very stupid things.

For example, he down grades these college prospects by saying "we still have questions on when it comes to his physicalness" or "I've been on record in saying that I just didn't see it" (in him ??).

Now, I wonder about something. If these major universities who have a significantly bigger budget that this guy has, and have evaluated their tallent (basied on their own criteria), and, have given out scholarships to these, and other players, then, who is this fool to say otherwise ?

I think that maybe he should consider changing career's and try selling used cars instead. He would be good at that I am sure.

Another brokeback moment I think.

Fred you mean to tell me, there's not one player from the Montview League not mentioned! You have underclass men listed here, and no one from the MVL. (NOT ONE)??? give me a break! NOT ONE SENIOR...

There's RAULEY ZARAGOZA, who plays for AZUSA and stands around 6 ft 2" and can catch a BALL, and also runs track. The guy can catch!

No,this is not my boy, and i'm not trying too promote him. This is just a observation that I been watching him play this season.

Guru
Here we go again. No love for any Walnut players. Leonard Rhodes ran all over WC last week. Jackson had something like 125 yrs Rhodes had 195 yrs. Show some love to a Walnut player for onces. This kid is big, and strong.

put there positions....

Juru

You keep saying Cameron Deen is going to except an offer soon but I see no offers coming in !!!!!!!!
You say his numbers are FINE but the teams that SH has played his numbers should have been EXPLOSIVE.This other Goss has done nothing all year but you still rank him high.I think he'll be playing at JC level.No size.And this kid from DR Lengyel he was'nt even on your radar anywere but from what I've seen pound for pound he's the best player in SGV.