Volleyball Top 10: Glendora moves on up

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The Sierra League is heating up as we speak with Diamond Bar in the lead with Glendora & St.Lucy's hot on their heels. Unless a unforseen upset occurs on thursday, Diamond Bar vs St.Lucy's at St.Lucy's next tuesday could determine whether DB wins league outright or a 3 team ties occurrs. Good luck to all.

SGElite is a good club!!!

GHigh,
What time is that San Dimas-Ganesha match. Schedule lists @ 3:15 p.m. But do the varsity play first, or the JV?

Since momentum can't be measured, I don't know if Glendora has just as much as SL's...

Glendora lost to Mayfield who lost to Los Osos 25-18 in both games. SL's ran into Los Osos in the Quarter Finals and lost 25-27 and 23-25. That's pretty good considering LO's is nationally ranked. This coupled with Glendora's loss to DB last week, I am predicting a SL's win! GO REGENTS!!!

I agree with volleyballfollower re: selecting the "right" club for your daughter, as many clubs have what they call "elite" teams and don't necessarily win anything significant i.e. a gold level championship. If your daughter dosn't make one of these teams, I encourage you to look elsewhere as being a bench player on a elite team or 2nd level team is not what you want and certainly not at the cost it will take.

Good Luck Ganesha!

Go Regents,
Wasn't Glendora in the semi final match?
Giving them just as much if not more momentum for tomorrow?

Ganesha beat Pomona today-league championship is on the line on Wednesday at home vs. San Dimas.

Glendora @ St. Lucy's on Tuesday. SL's is coming off a great match against Los Osos at the Ayala tournament over the weekend, nearly beating them. Hopefully they can carry that momentum into the game on Tuesday.

What are the big games upcomming this week. I believe S. Hills-Walnut play on Thursday. Should be a great rematch. This time S. Hills is at home.

Back again after a hiatus, the Club West tournament was a dandy with several local teams doing very well. Looks like going into the final 2 weeks of league should be competitive, I say "should be" because with high school athletes you never know who's going to bring it.

Regent VB: You are right about Mikasa Mom. She has always had very interesting insights and usually diplomatic ones. However, when stones were being thrown inside the glass house; we have a right to say stop. Rather than her apologizing for naming names and making remarks (Yeah, I said it!), she apologized for not getting a name right in her attack. I began to question if this was the same blogger?

Would love to see the old Mikasa Mom back but I just ask that we stop listing names (and excluding names) from dream team rotations. It's just divisive and our team/parents/coach don't need that. There were a lot of hurt feelings when this was passed around to other parents/kids. I think every kid has the potential to making something great happen.

Pretender or Contender,

Ganesha is planning on being in the mix for year's to come. Last year was our break out year, where we made it to CIF for the first time in 9 years and only the 4th time in school history. We have 5 players coming back next year, 4 starters and a backup setter. Best MB in Valle Vista Marcy Moreno will be back for her Senior year as well as standout libero Brittany Rodriguez.
Unfortunately our lower level teams are not traditionally very strong, but they learn the game and develop. Our players usually have little to no experience as Freshman so they take some time to develop.
We host three fall tournaments, which is the main way we can finance our program. Thanks to all SG fans and programs who attend our tourneys and support us on this blog. We'll call ourselves perennial CONTENDERS!

WAIT A MINUTE volleyball bloggers....please let's not target Mikasa Mom. She's obviously a great fan who follows her team. I always look forward to her great insights. She knows volleyball. Don't stop them from blogging, Mikasa Mom. I want to continue hearing from you. Good Luck this week. It will be pretty intense against Glendora. Regents we need to win this....GO REGENTS!

GHigh,

Congrats on what you are doing this year. Good luck this week as you take on San Dimas for first place in the Valle Vista League. Just a few questions: Does Ganesha have staying power in the Valle Vista or are you just having a good year? How are your lower levels compared to other teams in the VVL and will you be able to continue your success next year and who will be your biggest competition? I know you are focused on finishing this year strong but are you planning for the future? Just wanted to know if you will be around next year to keep this blog going / interesting. Good luck this week!

Semis @ the Ayala tourney
Glendora VS Mayfield (1-2)
Los Osos VS Granite Hills (2-0)

FINALS
Mayfield VS Los Osos (0-2)

Congrats GHigh!! You made it to the match that counts

Ganesha Pool Play
vs. Grant 25-23, 25-16
vs. S. El Monte 25-15, 25-7
vs. Providence 25-8, 25-10
Playoffs
vs. S. Pasadena 19-25
After playing our best all year we tensed up in the playoffs.
Still, we are just two victories away from the best record in school history.
Pomona Monday, San Dimas Wednesday-believe in the Giants!

Gabrielino Tournament 10/25/08
Gold Division Tournament Champions
Playoffs
vs Village Christian 25-21 (win)
vs Gabrielino 25-13 (win)
vs Rio Hondo Prep 25-15 (win)
vs Burbank 25-10 (win)
Pool Play
vs Immaculate Heart 25-8, 25-15 (win)
vs Ramona Convent 25-19, 25-13 (win)
vs Righetti 25-16, 25-12 (win)

Well here's Diamond Bar's bracket results.....anymore?

Anybody have anymore volleyball updates from the weekend??

@A,

Thanks for update, been waiting all afternoon for updates. Did South Hills have everybody?, and who else stood out?

Congrat. to Diamond Bar on a wonderful Saturday for winning the Gabrielino Tourney. South Hills lost to Village Christian in the semi-final and Diamond Bar beat Village Christian in the final. Diamond Bar have all the momentum now to finish league undefeated the rest of the way. How did St Lucy's and Glendora do this weekend at Ayala Tourney?

Let's face it, volleyball chicks are the hottest

vauwlbawl,

Don't come here playing the youth thing for Los Altos, Of their starters, 4 were distinguished with all league status last year and 1 other got considerable playing time and another sophmore had some playing time. The guestion is did the seniors from last year make them better. That is what true leadership is all about. Los Altos has the players to compete with any team out there, what is the problem???

I think the 3-0 loss to Bonita spoke for the notion that if they would beat Bonita and Charter Oak there could possibly be a 3 way tie for league.

As for the players looking for new clubs. If you have that desire for the next level look seriously into the coaches background and see what the coaches do for the players. Sit down with the coaches and ask what they have done for their players. Also look how they treat their younger teams. Many clubs if you are not on their elite team you are not afforded the same opportunities.

Good luck to all the volleyball players as the season comes to an end.

Bonita won in 3

What was the Bonita vs. Los Altos result?

Club can be a very good experience for the girls if you get the right parents and kids. Attitude in any sport can make or break a team Regardless of superior coaching.

I have to come to the defense for some SL kids who were slighted by this Mikasa Mom. Recommendations are thrown around the blogs all the time. You normally don't see the Yeah, I said it; Nails!!! You might as well be saying "Can I get an Amen! I can see how so many people would be upset. Completely disrespectful to the girls involved.

Anyone know the pools for the Ayala tourney? Keep us informed-should shake things up even more. I'll let y'all know about the Gabrielino tourney on Sunday if not sooner.

As far as I know coaches do not get paid more at private schools. At Harvard Westlake teachers must coach a sport or run a club, and they don't receive a coaching stipend at all.

Once again, parents pointing fingers at the players should not be allow for this blog. If, there are questions about a team for not winning, parents should also go evaluate their practices, talk to the coach and administration. But then again private schools do things differently from public schools, tuitions cost more, coaches get pay more, expectation to win is obvious.

I completely agree with Go Regents. You can't beat the passion of the school teams over club. Anyone at the DB- St Lucy's or Glendora games would have to agree with that. There's something about the school spirit that can't be beat.

Club is great because girls get to make friends from other schools. Believe it or not, a lot of girls get scholarships through their high school teams-it just takes film and effort.

Nothing beats the high school matches with the press and the packed gyms. High school tournaments are also way more packed than club tournaments, and a lot more intense.

I like Schuman (St.Lucy's) jumpserve. Can wait to see it when she gets to college level.

I agree with the comments about club. Club gets a lot of hype because of the recruiting factor. The reason they are recruited more out of club than high school is simple logistics. College coaches are in season right now just like high school. They dont have the time to go to high school games. During their off season they can go to these club tournaments and see thousands of prospects on one weekend. But I would argue that many of the top high school programs in this area have better coaches than many of the clubs. In club you typically get a younger less experienced coach. Im not saying all. There are a plenty of great club coaches too. Some coaches coach both high school and club and do a great job.
If you talk to most of the girls I bet they would say their high school wins feel better(mean more) than their club wins.

St. L parents dont implode yet we still have a lot of volleyball left this year.

Maybe it is me, but I don't see the same passion in Club that I do in High School. The girls seem more indifferent to wins/losses. I think there is more pride in representing your high school, which is reflected obviously with the parents as well

I am so diappointed in the SL parents. What can you possibly be thinking? I can't believe a freshmen parent would start blogging about who they would start and not start. That isn't good. And it's not to say there aren't talented freshmen because there are on this team. However, I am almost positive Mikasa Mom is no authority or expert of any kind to make those kind of assessments. And I would change my tune considering your daughter will be playing next year with some of the players that for some reason you feel have warranted your negative vibe on. I agree with Go Regent and back away from naming players you are deeming worthy/unworthy. Because the focus becomes not on the playters you mentioned but the players you didn't. It becomes personal. I would also make a recommendation that a focus should be made on encouraging the players to stay focused at practice. This would include the freshmen as they have been very vocal on the bench and at practice about there sense of entitlement. Seeing these blogs, I now see why. Part of the Varsity experience is the honor of being on Varsity, the character building when it is your turn to be on the bench and the respect for the game when you are on the court.

Anyone want to share experiences with club teams.Does anyone know of any forums that discuss club v-ball? I know this is high school forum. Cant wait for playoffs. This has been a very good year for local teams.

Confucius say, "If you have two setters, you don't have one..."

Maybe at St. Lucy's you can question playing a Freshman or Sophomore, but after talking to many coaches at most schools in the area you have to play underclassmen. The Varsity game is way faster than the lower levels so they need to be developed, and size matters more at the varsity level.

people, we had harmonious bliss with all schools coming to gether singing kum bi ya and then someone has to bring up personal preferences and call out names. This could only get more ugly folks. At the risk of putting everyone else to sleep, lets slow down on the names and keep the discussions a little more general. I think it keeps it interesting for everyone watching. I will not go back to my chanting... Hommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Not sure about Young, as I have seen Gasparo and Callen play. Is she new? From an outside perspective, Callen is a strong physical player. Her blocking eliminates hitting line, powerful hitter and is about electric in personality as they come. I saw her at the Los Altos game and that kid makes the crowd smile with her enthusiasm. Didn't realize she was only a sophomore. I have seen Gasparo play for the last two years. She has an amazing hit and has a definite presence about her. I have to admit I haven't seen the same level as last year but it is hard to dispute playing your 6'2 senior.

No wonder SL has the problems they have. Mikasa Mom and Jamball: I would caution putting names out there in public forum of who you would play or not play. In defense to Regent Fan, I witnessed all the teams and SL's doesn't have better middles than the ones they have on Varsity today. Especially since Callen and Young are only sophomores, I would encourage you to be more positive due to the fact that both of those young ladies aren't going anywhere for awhile. I really enjoy watching those two on the cort because they bring a high energy and intensity on the court. Energy that is truly needed for a team that lacks leadership and heart. In addition, I have seen some tremendous work from those ladies throughout the season. As for the other ladies on and off the bench, we need to be positive and get us through the season.

I am utterly amazed that someone would suggest that freshman players should start at the varsity level over upperclassmen/women. First off is the physical differences as the older player are used to players against players of their same age group. Secondly is the mental aspect of playing girls who in some cases are 2-4 years older and certainly more savy. Using freshman en masse is not the answer folks.

I apologize for not getting her name right...Young! And yes, I would start her over one of the middles. But why make this a thing about what grade they're in? Play your best 6. And for the record, my kid is not one of them.

Wait, is Giles the kid who was on JV and quit??? If that is the one, then I know you haven't had your coffee Mikasa Mom. Because I can't think of any middles who on their best day would be a better middles than Gasparo, Callen or Young even on their worst day. I am not saying they don't have potential. I am just saying not today or tomorrow.

Mikasa Mom: Who is Giles??? Is she even on Varsity. If this is the middle on JV to play over Young, Callen, or Gasparo you must be joking....

The reason the blocks aren't there is the outsides are floating. There I said it. With that post we can only guess who your child is and I am positive you would think Freshmen would do better.

GHigh, you have great insight (most of the time). Keep the blogs coming.

By all means, I am no expert and I have tremendous respect for Sean Douglas. I think he is a great coach. I have to admit that line-up really has and would work (The Jamball lineup). I love Schuman however her expertise is really as defense. The sets have been so inconsistent and you can only blame the hitters for so long. Also, we need some good passes from the back row and Schuman could provide that. A setter is the quarterback of the court and it is hard when you have two very different kinds of quarterbacks. I don't believe you have to be an expert at volleyball to make that assesment.

But then again, after yesterdays practice I am beginning to think that the starting line-up should be the girls who are coming to practice with a volleyball frame of mind. It is frustrating to hear the parents complaining at the games about their kids play time when the parents should be asking their kids what is going on at practice that the coach isn't playing the kid. I promise those parents if they were a fly on the wall at those practices, you would have your answers. Which is sad because there are some amazing athletes but you can not expect the coach to take them seriously if they are not taking him or themselves seriously. Being a coach is having to make those hard decisions and that's exactly what I see SD doing. Forced in to making the hard decisions.

I guess I stand corrected. You are right, Mikasa Mom and Regents VB-without this kind of banter the blog would be stale. I would have to also agree that one setter is the best way to get your offense more consistent. Tough situation when trying to develop a program, but I'm sure that's part of the job when coaching a powerhouse.

GHigh: hehe. I've read your blogs and I don't think you ever said anything negative about SL. I do understand that this is a public blog for HS Volleyball. I should have said CONFIDENTIAL on the beginning of my blog..I don't think changes with the line up will happen anytime soon or ever. It just frustrates alot of us. We all see what needs to improve. I'm pretty sure he takes STATS of the game. but why do we all have to wait for a player to step up. If she doesn't wanna step up, then she never will or does not have heart for the game. I know my daughter does. Another GHigh, I'm done, my season is over. Good luck to Glendora, Diamond Bar and ofcourse Ganesha HS.

Kinda early for everyone to come out swinging, but I think that just speaks to the passion we all have for this sport. I would let Steve or Fred decide what is appropriate for this blog, GHigh. However, as noted by Steve earlier, this thread is getting more hits than bball, many of which are from SL and Sierra League supporters, and when we don't come on (because sometimes it is just too painful to verbalize), you want to know where we are!

You go, Regents VB! We can play fantasy volleyball. We all have mental and virtual reality line-ups for our teams...and I think most of us wake up in the morning knowing that what we would like to see out there is probably not going to happen. Do I think that going to a 5-1 is strategically better for this team? Yes. Does Mercado give us our best shot? Probably yes. But she's lost her block. When players lose parts of their game that are that important, you have to wonder why? We are getting killed on the right side. In my draft, I'm leaving the outsides as you mentioned (go-to for sure), and starting Giles at middle (yes, I said it), with Jazmin and Macy, where needed-they are your two multi-positional players. SD should have left freshman libero Sifuentes on varsity. Nails!!!! We need help in the backcourt desperately.

But at the end of the day, I know this is not going to happen. There are those who believe that we are playing out this season, status quo. Blogger Disbelief feels it, too, and the silence from a few other SL supporters is deafening. It has all been said. Good luck to all at CW this weekend. Anyone have pool info?
Jamball: there is no overall strength to the team. It took us 4 to beat CH, with starters only, at home!!! Took us 3, first round, playing the bench, and away. There is huge positional power, in some spots. We looked better, earlier. Best play by THE TEAM-against St. Joe's and Los Altos.

Regents VB:sorry, I shouldn't have been sarcastic. Obviously you understand the game. The problem is your comments are not for St. Lucy's fans only because this is a high school volleyball blog. Not really the place to comment on who should be playing and when.
Good luck to St. Lucy's. You have a lot to look forward to-this year and for year's to come.

JAMBALL: I don't think i was talking to you. The message was intended for Mikasa Mom and Regents Fans only. Are you a Regents fan? Obviously that rotation does not work. Go on the archives and read all the Gossip regarding SL. Setters and Hitters has no chemistry due to the rotation. And Ghigh: No, I did not apply. They couldn't afford me..

In response to the comments from regents fan who obviously knows more about the game and strategy of volleyball than 99% of the rest of us novice followers, first the reasons for the rotation at SL is due to playing strengths of each player as it relates to the overall play of the team. SD has the task of determining solely which combination best works for his program. So lay off the "expert" analysis unless you want to come off your high stoop and contribute in a positive way to the program.

Regents VB-might as well coach if you have all of the answers. Did you apply?

Mikasa Mom and ALL Regents fan: Let's talk strategy. Here's my line up and I guarranty you a 3 way tie. Summer we had 1 setter and we beat DB and Glendora twice. TWICE. Now we switched to this weird rotation and it's hurting us prettty bad. Don't you think the girls should have a chemistry by now if we focused on 1 setter. CONSISTENCY and DEFENSE is what we are lacking of. So here's my line up - Miller playing Opposite, Callen and Gasparo playing Middle, Prater and Dalton playing Right Side, Mercado as Setter and Aguilera as your Libero. Since Schuman is only setting when she's back row, use her as a DS. She is quick and she can really help Aguilera in the back row. If this doesn't work, please shoot me. Sean D, I hope you are reading this, but this is the only way. I know some girls will be very upset with playing time, but hey we all want that league title. Don't you? Think about it on your 1st year as coach "League Champs". We all want to see the banner. GO REGENTS!!!!!

As much of a fan as I am of SL, I have to concede that SL doesn't have a chance against Diamond Bar or Glendora. At this point, I wish Diamond Bar and Glendora much success. They are deserving teams with leadership that deserve the title. Unfortunately, the majority of the SL team is not playing with heart and goofing around. I wouldn't be surprised if the coach leaves the team after next year. (Which would be really unfortunate as most of the people goofing off our graduating).

Los Altos: I believe you have the leadership to turn things around. Make it happen.

Like St. Lucy's, Los Altos has a chance to turn the Miramonte League upside down. They are at home tonight against Bonita. Los Altos is like a wounded animal right now, very dangerous. They very well could take out Bonita and Charter Oak. If that happens and Charter Oaks gets a split with Bonita then there would be a three-way tie for first.

I guess they are not true matches on who it is most convenient too.

I can say this an exciting time for SL. Diamond Bar and Glendora will be pulling for SL to beat their opponent.

For all the hate blogs, its kind of interesting to have so much weight for a team that "should not be in the top 10" but will be deciding the fate of the #1 and #4 teams (this week...take a deep breath Walnut fans)for the league title.

Nice article in todays paper about the girl from Walnut. That team is fun to watch as they play with a ton of heart.

I believe the Ayala tournament is at Club West this weekend with the rest of the top ranked teams. These tournaments that are two out of three or sometimes one game to 25 are tough to predict and determine how the outcomes affect rankings. Think about how this weeks games would have gone if they were "tournament games" Bonita came back after being down 0-2. St. Lucys was up 2-0 on Diamond Bar.
That is why I like Ganesha's format. True Matches. Coaches probably like the quicker matches because they can play more opponents in a shorter time frame.

I believe South Hills, Diamond Bar, Village Christian, Maranatha, St. Paul, among others are in the Gabrielino tourney. La Puente is in the lowest division as far as the ranking, but they are undefeated and deserve recognition. Ganesha's losses are only to teams in higher divisions and/or higher ranked. This is why we are still ranked in CIF.

much respect to the tartans who also had a great match last night and pushed to 5 games after being down 2-0.
congrats dbar, way to make this season a bit more stressful and exciting to watch!
this should be interesting.
if sl beats glendora and db its a 3way tie
if dbar and glendora beat sl its a 2way tie
and if sl beats dbar but nor glendora, glendora will take the title.
id say this is the most exciting sierra league of all time. so much competion and good volleyball.
VERY CLASSY TOO.
Dbar and Glendora were very poised last night.

Anyone have links to the upcoming tournaments this weekend?

La Puente's opponents schedule is a combined 58-97-3 They should not be in the top ten. I am happy for them they are having a great season. I believe Steves quote was " I also take in account a team's season body of work". Well they been "working" some pretty bad teams. I am not bashing the team. Just there Ranking By Steve R.

I for one am surprised to see Los Altos doing as bad as they have. I thought when we played them at the beginning of the season that they were far better then what their record indicates. I think they are similiar to SL's in that they are a young team looking for some focus and direction. It would be unwise for an opponent to overlook them.

Ghigh,

Ganesha and La Puente is playing teams that are not as highpowered at Gabrielino, now if they were playing friday and saturday and the AYALA tournament, HOW WOULD THEY DO? I dont think LA PUENTE OR GANESHA would stand a chance.

you are getting pretty good at backpeddaling Ghigh. lol

True-I have nothing but respect for the West Covina coach and players, but I think we've seen that they can't stand up to Walnut or South Hills. I was hoping they would, but unfortunately I think they might just not have enough offensive power. St. Lucy's did not play West Covina in Ganesha's tournament-West Covina lost to Estancia to finish in 6th place out of 24 teams.
Let's watch out with my comments people-on a great day Ganesha could beat anyone in the top ten-as I said I am biased. Let's see how we do at the Gabrielino tourney this weekend. I think we currently deserve to be in the spot we are in and we hope to keep it. I don't think Charter Oak should drop at all, that is for sure.

more shakeup, more numbers to crunch, I love it. The next few weeks should be exciting. I expect a lot more changes. As of right now this is where I see things.
Number one is a no brainer. Number 2 and 3 is a question mark. Did Diamond Bar do enough to move ahead of S. Hills?
4 & 5 Glendora or Bonita? We know who won head to head but can you drop Glendora from 1 to 5 because they lost a close 5 setter to DB?
6-10 How far if at all does Charter Oak drop? La Puente is still perfect, San Dimas hasn't lost in league and according to Ghigh, Ganesha can beat anyone in the top 10.
How does it all sort out? So many questions.

Congrats to all the teams. You are all playing very well.

volleybawl you must have been talking to vblfan not me, I haven't said anything discouraging about LA.

Ghigh-regarding the strength of the San Antonio league being only Walnut and S. Hills-You said specifically that West Covina would suprise some people in the San Antonio league this year and they were looking strong. This was a few weeks back. Now you are saying otherwise?

My comment about the Sierra league was a little tongue in cheeck. Im not sure how the San Antonio #3 West Co would fair against the Sierra number #3 St Lucy's. Probably not well. In fact they may have already played in the Ganesha tournament.

Los Altos:

Starters:

4 sophmores
1 junior
2 seniors

The subs:
2 seniors
2 juniors

Schedule
Out of the 10 games played they have played the following teams:

1)Diamond Bar
2)St. Lucy's
3)La Habra
4)Los Osos
5)Walnut
6)South Hills
7)Charter Oak

They went 5 with St. Lucy's, Diamond Bar, and Bonita.

VBL, with a team so young and a schedule like that, all I can do is applaud them, for hanging tough. I wouldnt call it a dissapointment, they did loose some serious players last year.

enough said.

VBL,

OK, so i went on MAX PREP and looked at Los Altos.

They played the following:

Diamond Bar
St. Lucy's
La Habra
Los Osos
Walnut
South Hills
Charter Oak

Went 5 with Diamond Bar, St. Lucy's, and Bonita.

All the teams that Los Altos has played can easily beat up on each other depending on the day.

VBL, after seeing that, yes its somewhat of a disappointment, but give Los Altos credit for playing teams tough in such a difficult schedule.

Great win for the Brahmas!!! Congratulations! Next week is HUGE in terms of determining who all will be wearing that Sierra League Champions patch. Hope there are 3 teams who can claim a share! Have to agree that in spite of losses, strength of field for St. Lucy's should warrant inclusion in bottom half of rankings. Play hard Regents!!!! And yeah for the Sierra League!

Hey Fred, why do you take down the link to the VB top 10 after a day under your header? Leave it up there!

Wow. Great to see this board come alive! Some great games this week.

Patrick, I agree. Your game against us must have given the girls the confidence they needed. Believe me, we are hoping that loss for Glendora will affect them the opposite way!!! Very nice win. Who questioned whether the Sierra was the most competitive???

Dad, I am glad you took your bite of humble pie and that you didn't choke on it. Welcome back to the real world. And by the way, I agree pulling summer stats is reaching. My point was, and thank you GHIGH for backing me up, that SL's has a lot of talent and can compete. Convince as many of the players on the team as you can that SL's is as bad as you seem to think they are. That's exactly where we want you!

Funny VBL-no question the San Antonio league has two great teams every year, but they are always the same two. Sierra is more competitive and has strong teams all the way down, except for Chino. In my opinion, 4th and 5th place from Sierra competes for third in San Antonio.

And if you guys keep playing hard someday you might even be as good as the San Antonio league.

Patrick, Thanks. I couldn't agree more. Sierra is a great league.

I have to admit, I'm impressed with the volleyball chatter. We're getting more hits and comments on these volley threads than we do in boys basketball.

The Charter Oak/Bonita game was great to watch. Donaldson did awesome. I agree Charter Oak could still upset Bonita at the end for a shared title. Lots of great players on both sides. Will definitely be the game of the week when that comes about again.

Los Altos has been the biggest disappointment. There are some amazing kids as well. Not sure what is going on over there.

St. Lucy's has also been a disappointment with some great kids. Their situation is different though considering they are rebuilding their program from having so many coaching changes. I think time will prevail for the Regent team with lots of underclassmen talent on the team.

The Diamond Bar/Glendora match up last night was a great game as well. Diamond Bar really stepped up and got the job done. That is the best I have seen them play.

This is a little bit of the shake up I was referring too the other day.

The question is? Can Glendora or Diamond Bar hold on to their Sierra League title or will St. Lucy's finally cement things as a team and cause a real shake up. Food for thought, if St. Lucy's were to win both teams there would be a three way tie for Sierra League. (It's a stretch but could happen.)

Last note: Walnut should be back at #1. They are an amazing team and should be there. No doubt about that anymore. Walnut, South Hills and Diamond bar have all beat them. I think Glendora should be at #4 next week. As for St. Lucy's being dropped?? I think that is a stretch. Especially when you have San Dimas, La Puente and Ganesha in the ten. Records and all, I think who they play has to be considered which I believe it has been stated many times that is factored in.

Good luck to all.

GoRegent, we should ALL be happy to be in the league we are in . Case in point, DB game vs St Lucy's(ultimatly helped DB against Glendora)We all make each other better teams for the post season.I can almost guarantee you (you can problably ask DB Dad) that had we lost the St Lucy's game, last night would have been a little different story; win or loss. Thats why i think we ALL need to cheer each other on to be the best we can be regardless of what colors we are wearing. We ARE the Sierra League!

Just getting back on line, that was a great game between Bonita and Charter Oak. These two teams played tough and I can possibly see them splitting league this year just like Bonita and Los Altos did last year. It will be interesting to see how Charter Oak rebounds from the loss. Charter Oak needs to be ranked where they are and not moved because of the loss. Bonita is alway strong in the Miramonte League but the Charter Oak coach has her team playing well.

It is just a shame to see Los Altos playing so poorly this year. If they were playing the way they should this league would be fun to watch and a monster in CIF playoffs.

Congratulations Diamond Bar on a huge win. I was wrong. The final weeks should be alot of fun to watch. Now I will go finishing eating my crow.

Congratulations Diamond Bar!!! That is awesome. That was a huge win. Nice to see *DAD* eat some crow.

As for the SL haters, I am not saying we have done great in league so far but I think you don't understand sports in general if you don't realize we are capable of doing great things. (As most teams are in underdog situations...)

Wouldn't it be interesting for the SL girls to finally all come together and bring a shake up to the Sierra League. St. Lucy's still has Glendora and Diamond Bar @ St. Lucy's. Either team could fall. But I encourage the haters to continue to doubt.

Look what it did for Diamond Bar against Glendora...

Congratulations to Diamond Bar! Seeing them in the summer I just had a feeling they could do wonders because they seemed so close. They also didn't buckle under pressure, and obviously they still don't. How often does a team come back after being down two and win-twice!
Diamond Bar parents and families are also a class act. Should be an interesting top ten next week. Hopefully more fans will get on the blog now.

Please name all 17 wack teams that La Puente beat. Can anyone imagine there are that many wack teams in the area?

hey i was looking at la puente schedule there doin g good but they havnt played any one good, theyve been playing wack teams. they r a lil overrated. i went to go watch them vs gladstone and there not that good there just a lil too overraated is all im saying. what they r 17-0 but who have they played?

hey i was looking at la puente schedule there doin g good but they havnt played any one good, theyve been playing wack teams. they r a lil overrated. i went to go watch them vs gladstone and there not that good there just a lil too overraated is all im saying. what they r 17-0 but who have they played?

hey i was looking at la puente schedule there doin g good but they havnt played any one good, theyve been playing wack teams. they r a lil overrated. i went to go watch them vs gladstone and there not that good there just a lil too overraated is all im saying. what they r 17-0 but who have they played?

When was the last time DB got a share of the league title? Diamond Bar is truly an underrated team. So is Ganesha, La Punete, and Charter Oaks this year so far. SL is overrated, but they do deserve to be at #10 in the poll.

scores from the DB Glendora game 25-17, 25-12, 23-25, 22-25, 15-11

DBPride, i know exactly where you are coming from. It was the same way when i was at Diamond bar back in 1993.

Did you get any scores of the match??

its nice to have people actually cheering for us, im so used to everyone doubting and hating on us. great win.

DB, this is sweet! I think the St lucy's match did wonders for the girls. As for Dad, i cant wait to see him slowly slip out of this thread..lol

No Patrick, not kidding. Our girls did it. You'll see in papers tomorrow. All due respect for Glendora, but we did it again.

Do you have the scores?
@ DB dad

And Kurt, where did you get your info? From DAD? I believe he said DB would get smoked???? Glendora showed incredible heart after being down 2 games. They are a great team. but never underestimate the guts of DB. Love this Sierra league. Keep it up St. Lucy's. Let's see how far we go in CIF

DB Dad, please tell me your not kidding??..Thats outstanding!! I couldnt be at game tonight cause i had a business meeting. A local that i know was at the game for some reason proceeded to tell me the girls had lost,so i was anxiously awaiting confirmation. Thnx for update!

Go Brahmas!

Hey DAD, truth is DB won in 5 games. Go DB!

VBL, you can go to dbhs.org and keep checking if nobody reports here later on..just click on Athletics on left side , then click Volleyball in Fall sports tab.

Im sure atleast Glendora won cause being at DB, the DB fans would have reported by now .Coach Bevins usually will report her scores by 930 or 10 in a game like this if DB would have won, so at this point its just a matter of waiting on game scores judging how close it was or wasnt..(lol) no pun intended.

No VBL, i was actually gonna follow up with a sike..lol

No i got a vague text from a game watcher that Glendora did win, but i have to stats or nothing as of now..still waiting!

so whos right? Patrick you wouldn't lie to us would you?

Yeah right!

Glendora beat DB in 4 sets.

Tartans "League Champions" Baby!!

Upset...

DB upsets Glendora...

(3-1)...

My point was, before we get carried away, that St. Lucy's deserves its spot in the rankings. Who deserves to be ranked in the top ten that isn't? Who deserves to be ahead of St. Lucy's that isn't currently?

I love the fighters attitude, but get by San Dimas before you start calling out the top dogs. Baby steps. I believe San Dimas was blown out by Bonita and Walnut. Was your match with St. Lucy's close? It looks like that was St.Lucy's only top 10 win.

Any scores yet?

Hey, just because I'm Irish doesn't mean that I'm hitting the bottle, not that I'm not, just saying! I'm sorry, I have to believe in the underdog might Giants-we are big enough and athletic enough to play with the big dogs, but our experience usually comes through. We will see though, we will see-CIF is just around the corner.

you've been drinking right Ghigh?

Hey Dad,

Now you have to make me talk smack about my own team? I have to be fair though, St. Lucy's beat Ganesha and we are barely in the top ten. Do you seriously think St. Lucy's on any given day can't beat anyone in the top ten? I've seen Diamond Bar, Walnut, Charter Oak,La Puente, and San Dimas and St. Lucy's on a good day could beat any of them. I also think Ganesha could beat any of them, but I'm very biased. Still, St. Lucy's is going to CIF and has done enough to be ranked.

Hey Dad,

Now you have to make me talk smack about my own team? I have to be fair though, St. Lucy's beat Ganesha and we are barely in the top ten. Do you seriously think St. Lucy's on any given day can't beat anyone in the top ten? I've seen Diamond Bar, Walnut, Charter Oak,La Puente, and San Dimas and St. Lucy's on a good day could beat any of them. I also think Ganesha could beat any of them, but I'm very biased. Still, St. Lucy's is going to CIF and has done enough to be ranked.

Hey Dad,

Now you have to make me talk smack about my own team? I have to be fair though, St. Lucy's beat Ganesha and we are barely in the top ten. Do you seriously think St. Lucy's on any given day can't beat anyone in the top ten? I've seen Diamond Bar, Walnut, Charter Oak,La Puente, and San Dimas and St. Lucy's on a good day could beat any of them. I also think Ganesha could beat any of them, but I'm very biased. Still, St. Lucy's is going to CIF and has done enough to be ranked.

The bottom line is that any of the top teams can beat eachother on any given day. It was predicted early on that no one would run "the valley" table and that has rung true. Hopefully we can have several teams deep into the CIF playoffs. Im not sure who has the best chance of going the farthest, probably one of the lower division teams, maybe Bonita.

#1 and #2 could go any way. Glendora out power Walnut in their game. I would like to see a remach. Walnut is realy looking good. For Glendora to lose to Bonita. I would have gave the #1 spot to Walnut after they Killed Bonita. I also would like to give SH their due. It was a great game between Walnut and SH. Could have gone anyway.

I guess Glendora LOVES to make enemies,but what else can you expect from the mighty Tartans?? What i would like to know is what will Glendor "DAD" say if Glendora loses?? I saw you the first match and sorry but your not invincible.

Pulling out summer league stats? We all know what summer league is about. Beat somebody in the regular season...please. St Lucy's has lost to every top 10 team in the regular season and has beat nobody ranked. Please beat a ranked team and then pop off.
St Lucy's does not deserve to be in the top 10.

Over the summer, the split with Glendora, they beat Bonita, they beat Diamond Bar, they beat St. Joseph's, Los Altos, they played a great match with Walnut and won 2 games against DB in league, not to mention winning Ayala in 4 (back-ups played in loss), Chino and Chino Hills in 3.

If you have watched any of the games, they are a good team in search of some passion and leadership. They haven't quite figured out what it takes to win the big games, that's why they are where they are in the polls. If you think they are not good enough to beat any of those teams above them if they played to their potential, then you are mistaking.

You have not answered my question. I know they have lost but who have they beat?

It is beat not beaten. But, I must agree. Glendora will eliminate Diamond Bar and St. Lucy's has done nothing to justify any ranking.

Guess you can also ask, "who have they lost to"???

Let's see, Upland - Div.1, Rosary - Div. 1, Walnut, SH's, DB, Glendora - the top 4 teams in the valley.

Diamond will get smoked. Who have they beaten to deserve such a high rating? What about St. Lucy's? They should not even be in the top 10. Who have they beaten?

There is also Impact VBC out of Yorba Linda.

I'm down!

Good luck to the Tartans and the BRAHMAS!!!!! Please post scores tonight.

After SL Fans beat Chino Hills at SL tonight; it wouldn't be a half bad idea to go to Glendora to cheer on DB. Everyone loves an underdog!

I agree. I would go to any club with the right coaches, especially at the younger ages. High price does not necessarily equal good club and elite coach does not necessarily equal the best coach!

Go Diamond Bar!!! ;-)

Heights VBC from what i hear is not happening. There is also Starlings San Gabriel who has been seen in Lower GOLD and Upper Silver Brackets in all levels.

Edge has been around for quite some time. Its an average club.

For those parents out there, REMEMBER ITS NOT ABOUT THE $$$ that your going to spend thats going to make your daughter better, its the quality of girls in the team, AND THE COACHES!!!

THE COACHES, can make or break ur team and daughter. THEY CAN TEACH GOOD HABITS or bad habits.

Starlings teams tend to have GREAT COACHES and best prices, unfortunately they have the stigma of being the bad news bears, for pushing volleyball in lower income areas.

There is Rancho Valley (practice at Los Osos I believe) and Arsenal (Upland).

Btw: Big Game tonight is Diamond Bar vs. Glendora. This is Diamond Bars big chance to tie Glendora for the Sierra League title. Otherwise Glendora has the Sierra League in the bag.

Starlings Pomona website is www.eteamz.active.com/starlingspomona/

Im researching local clubs. I have some questions. Ghigh, I went to that Starlings website you posted and it is the national website. Is there a local website that lists tryout dates and prices? I have found info on Top Gun, Club West, San Gabriel Elite, The Edge(is that the former Hacienda Heights Volleyball Club?). What are some others?

Walnut beat Rowland in 3 last night, what were some other local results besides the CO-Bonita game?

Congrats to Bonita. What are the other big matches this week?

The Bonita-CO game sounds like it lived up to the hype.

Bonita rallies back to beat Charter Oak in five, 22-25, 19-25, 25-23, 25-20, 15-11...Bonita's Courtney Donaldson 17 kills; Charter Oak's Diana Lake had 14 kills

Ganesha beat Northview in 3! 25-5, 25-15, 25-19. If we can stay strong against Baldwin Park and Pomona we still have a shot playing San Dimas at home next Wednesday. Diossenia Flores is on fire!

Yes, Sgvolley, I will be there.

Just the same as my predictions except the top two spots which could have gone either way. I would disagree with the body of work comment though. Walnut has played and beaten more local top 10s than Glendora. Their body of work is more impressive. Walnut is 5-1 vs top 10 Glendora is 3-1. (not including a scrimmage loss to S.Hills). But I see your point Steve.

Are you guys covering the Bonita-CO game tonight?