Bishop Breakdown

FLASH!!!:

Joe Amat is DUKE Defrates!!!!

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does King George post on here, I last saw him about 10 years ago at In and Out near Bonita HS, great guy is/was the King!

whitey,

I've been waiting for Georgie and our fellow Graduate to respond. I think we scared them off.

Even had King Stud in our corner on that one. A real coup if I do say so. Long live the King!

what happened? no one made a post yesterday on the Amat page, why? this is a 24/7/365 commitment, somebody have a take and try not to suck........lol

I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO BISHOP AMAT FOOTBALL...WE DID WELL THIS YEAR AND WAY BETTER THAN LAST YEAR..ALL THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FOR THIS YEAR WERE FOR THE BEST AND IT TRULY PAID DIVIDENDS..WE PLAYED AS A TEAM AND THE COACHING WAS SO MUCH MORE IN FOCUS..THE RIGHT CALLS WERE MADE AND ESPECIALLY THE POSITION CHANGE AT QUARTERBACK..CANT WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR...GOOD JOB GUYS..

I did like our half of the bracket from the start and thought the other side was a bit tougher. Getting by LBP would have been nice and the matchups were reasonable for sure. But to say one first round play away from a championship is a bit of a leap.... even for me. What I do agree with is that we can step on the field now with ANYONE at that level and feel like we have a realistic chance. Not a "Dumb and Dumber, "... so you're telling me I have a chance..." But the kind of chance that even has Coach Lara at LBP altering his game plan at the opening of the game to counter our approach.

We're in the team picture again... and that's a big step.

Hagerty and the staff has re=established the discipline and commitment among the group with a consistent approach from Day 1 all the way to the controversial "Mclanahan decision" Here's an interesting article from the Minneapolis Star for you "naysayers" that complained about the decision. Adrian Peterson of the Minnesota Vikings was late for a meeting and the coach -*supported by the players*- agreed on the punishment... don't start - same as Hags. Amazing! Most coaches that "get it" (that one's for you MTC) would make the same call.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/35237469.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUJ

Finally the more that LBP, OLu, DR, WC, Los Osos win... the more it validates the Lancer resurgence!

Amat was one play away from winning that Poly game. Since Notre Dame lost I'm convinced Amat was one play away from winning the Pac-5 too. We get past Poly we win it all.
The Pac-5 really was no joke this year... These top teams are always tough but this year was particularly brutal.

Amat who

Who is it again that you play for ?

I'd like to see you play in a game but to tell you the truth, I thought that Basset was done for the year ?

Bleeds Blue & drops another load.

Almost forgot about you. Been out having fun with my teammates.

I guess you were wrong again.. LOL

Semi's next! Where you going next week? To the malls? LOL

Amat Graduate -where are you????
Come out and playayay!

George,

The South Hills fans were out in full force and screaming for an Amat game last year. South Hills was this year's Charter Oak. The reason why they have been so quiet is that South Hills has not done as well as they were supposed to...especially given all the hype surrounding their QB. Considering they lost to West Covina, a South Hills vs. Amat game would have been a catastrophe for the Huskies. But really, they were just as loud as fans as any on this blog. What a difference a year makes.

Joe,

Just read you're post. Well written.

As for "Joe, You're comparing Apples to Rotting Flesh!" ok, things like murders assault and corruption happen everywhere, even in you're own back yard.

Just remind the folks who live in orange county how safe they should feel when their own sherrif is going to be sent to prison sometime next year.

Please folks, I dont have a statistitions board next to me, but if you name me one city in the Los Angeles county, then I will guarantee that there has been some "issues" there in the recient past concerning the three items I just discribed above.

George

Yes George, you do have the right to voice you're opinion, and the fact that you took the Amat faithful to task is not at all why I am at odds with you here.

Where I am somewhat confused is in the fact that you said that you came on board for the first time just this last week to voice you're dislike about Amat in general.

You spoke in earnest about you’re dislike of the school and the football program (at Amat). You even took the time to criticize the geography of the community and you put down almost everything about Amat except for the janitors at the school! Too funny.

I suppose that for some unknown reason, you felt that it was you’re civic duty to tell all the other folks in here how bad we are. How interesting.

My point here George was that, some people are very transparent and predictable. They do not always tell the truth and they oftentimes are hypocrites themselves. That’s where you stand I my eyes.

You have singled out the Amat faithful as the scourge of this blog when the football team hasn’t even played a game in more than a week now? The true irony here is that most of the Amat fans haven’t even been on this blog as much as they have been during the course of the season lately, yet for some reason, you have only just now noticed how arrogant they are?

WOW ! Why did you wait so long before you got the courage to speak?

Oh ya, you just started to read this thing the last week or so, so you haven’t had the time to truly get a grasp about all the other stuff that goes on in. But yet you have noticed that the Amat bloggers are the worst right?

Hey my friend, where should I start? Perhaps we can talk about all the stuff that gets thrown in this forum regarding the goings on over at Wilson or La Puente, or maybe we can speak of the issues surround the silly accusations regarding money directed towards the coach over at South Hills. Or maybe we can talk about anything else that gets tossed around in here that borders on absolute trash. But you wont.

In other words George, I don’t believe that you just fond this blog this last week and that we are the worst thing in here, But hey, that’s my opinion and I have a right to it too, correct?

George, because I want to believe you in you’re claim to not being a hypocrite, I will look in earnest at you're future posts to see if in fact, you are as objective as you claim to be.

I will look every day to see if you post the same type of messages with the same type of critiques that you used in here and direct them towards the other folks on this forum.

However, like I just said, I really don’t believe that im going to see that.

the 7-11 on Gale is much closer to Los Altos and Wilson than it is to Amat and probably further away from Lancerland than San Dimas is to Pomona

Trojan Man and all the loudmouth vetereano cholos from Rosepeed...Harvard Westlake said you guys were punks...46-6! What happened there? Shut up...it's the playoffs anything can happen..except in your case it happens every 35 years or so....someone grade check that team and seen where they end up. San Dimas lost. Big deal. it's a ball game. Te Saints will sleep tight and know they had a good run...again!...what's Rosemead act? Tired and loud!

"Just like a Cholo...side to side!!!! ELBOWS UP!!!!"

Joe Amt...sorry but Slaughter Alley is Amar to Azusa and Valley to Francisquito or approximate. It's one of the worst areas to live in and drive thru. Worked in the area for a bit and I tell you it's a sh8t hole of gangsm gangs and more gangs and drugs , drugs and more drugs. Been that way for at least 30 years. There is no place in San Dimas...I like the D because that's disrespectful to omit....that even compare sto the whorehouses, strip bars and lowlife herion addicts on parole in the La Puente /Bassett area. I saw a man get stbbed there on Gale who was doing nothing more than taking to a friend outside a 7-11. I almost ran him over with my car and threw him thru the plate glass window after he motioned in my direction. He walked up to the men asking for a light and kept a blade in his hand "prison style"...don't ask...and stabbed the 50 year old man in the face 4 times! Joe, San Dimas trash is Beverly Hills ...to use your reference...compared to THAT area. Trust me....no seriously trust me.

Georgie Porgie from San imas (no D for no Defense, good one TM). I will assume you are an Aints fan (since you haven't earned the S).

It's convenient and funny how you come in here and judge the bloggers in here after you guys got rocked by an improved but average Rosemead Team. I suppose you got sick of all the
"Gossip, Putting others down, Bragging, Exaggerating, Complaining, Flattering, Boasting, Ridicule, or Sarcasm" going back and forth between the SD/Rosemead faithful?

My suggestion to you Georgie, is clean out your own garbage before you come in here and act like a sanctimonious little biatch.

Next time you come in here, at least make an announcement....

The Aints are coming...

The Aints are coming...LOL

Georgie,

Welcome to the Tribs Web log. I'm looking forward to you posting more often. This message forum, is to post information, ask (or answer) some of the questions or concerns that we all have. Or we can just rant, rave, and debate until the cows come home (no wait... we don't cover Chino). In the midst of all that you have to have bloggers with opinions - otherwise it's the Whitiier Daily News (visit there sometime, it's *nice*... and boring - no interest, no posts, no opinions.. and no "Gossip, Putting others down, Bragging, Exaggerating, Complaining, Flattering, Boasting, Ridicule, or Sarcasm." You might like it... but you'll be lonely.

So when this topic is posted, yes, Amat is open season and ready to take on all comers... like yourself. "Everyone one is fair game here" ... remember. But be careful what you wish for... you just might get it.

So you can come on and give a take (your right... "It's a public forum." But, the Amat faithful have the same right to offer the alternate view. And I can guarantee you.. that rarely do the Lancers throw the first blow. Your a newbie... so go back and look it up - you'll see what I mean. Or just scroll to the bottom and work you way up. But be ready... and "If you don't like it, take a hike!"

I hope you don't "take a hike" , because you offer a view that is a different perspective... again - the purpose of a message forum like this. And you don't really fall into jcaz definition of a "drive-by" poster. They usually have nothing to offer but a one sentence put down and sign some ambiguous tag that is usually more of a poor attempt at a punch-line than a name.

At least we know you're Georgie from San Dimas. Which opens you up to San imas (nice Trojan Man) smack if you're going to pile on La Puente. Funny thing, I drove thru Beverly Hills a while back and if you're not in the 90210 portion - there are some areas that just as easily could be on Amar... or some of those areas surrounding Arrow and the Railroad tracks that San imas at times doesn't want to claim. And we don't want to talk about "gangs, when possibly the worst gangs in the SGV are in Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bars, or so shortly after the raid of a ganglords home by South Hills High School, the lock down at Los Altos and the fact that the Valinda gangs are just as much West Covina as they are La Puente. The Lancers are on the other end of the 91746 - a short porch home run lands in the WC.

But I digress... again. See Georgie I think that jcaz found it ironic that you engage in the same behavior that you claim to loath. "Gossip, Putting others down, Bragging, Exaggerating, Complaining, Flattering, Boasting, Ridicule, or Sarcasm." Interesting!

As you said, "you just actually found this blog page a week ago", so haven't had the chance to see others here boasting, putting everyone down and acting like they’re stuff doesn’t stink. Go back and read plenty of comments along the line of " Until you start winning championships and actually HAVE something to “boast” about, you’re just another idiot in a long line of idiots!" (WOW!, Who said that? Certainly not someone complaining about "Gossip, Putting others down, Bragging, Exaggerating, Complaining, Flattering, Boasting, Ridicule, or Sarcasm."- Should I bust out some scripture too about how hypocritical THTA was?)

You see, Georgie, it apparently is YOU who don't get it. Is it REALLY about the record? Is it REALLY about a championship? Is that how YOU define YOUR success? Or your kids? It's all relative... isn't it? If you REALLY understood you'd realize that 7-4 with our schedule IS something to be proud of and the 1st round performance against Long Beach Poly is FAR greater an achievement than any number of first round wins. You sound intelligent enough to compare 3-loss teams in the NCAA like Georgia, Oklahoma State, or Missouri to Ball St... and even 4 loss Oregon State team to undefeated DIII powers like Mount Union, Williamette, Millsaps and Occidental. Hey how about that Wabash upset of undefeated Monmouth? Rivals Oregons win on the road to knock State out of the Rose bowl! The point is Mount Union, Williamette, Millsaps and Occidental aren't clamoring that they're better than USC, Oklahoma, or Florida because they're undefeated and 1 might win a *championships and actually HAVE something to “boast” about". No... they realize the significance of their accomplishments, put them in perspective and are happy with that.

You should realize that too. You know better, I'm sure. The scoreboard does NOT tell the whole story and you can't compare apples to oranges.

We'll talk soon - I'm sure

John 8:7

"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone"

People shouldn't throw stones in glass houses george

infested i mean

love the drive-by remark george
LMFAO
gang invested la puente

Nope, not at all "complete idiots" jcaz. You just don't like hearing it, that's all. That's what it comes down too. It's just beyond anything your brain can handle to understand. Talk about an idiot!

As for these "drive-by's" you speak of (by the way, you must be spending too much time in La Puente since you're now calling blog posts drive-by's), well I just actually found this blog page a week ago. So, again, talk about an idiot!

Another point, since you think you're so "beyond everyone else" because you are a parent, coach or whatever the case might be with Amat, get used to the attacks against you! BUCK UP MY FRIEND AND STOP WHINNING ABOUT IT! It's a public forum. If you don't like it, take a hike!

Everyone one is fair game here, jcaz. The problem is, I don’t see successful schools like South Hills for example in here boasting, putting everyone down and acting like they’re stuff doesn’t stink. Oddly, I have seen Amat people very often in here this week. I’m sure it was going on way before this too. Now…let me explain this point since you probably won’t get it. Until you start winning championships and actually HAVE something to “boast” about, you’re just another idiot in a long line of idiots! You BETTER have something behind you when you talk about how great you are, and a 7-4 team not getting past the first round isn’t a damn thing behind you! I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE PAST EITHER BECAUSE IT DOESN’T MEAN A DAMN THING NOW! :-)

At the begining of the year we had many posts similar to the ones we see below me here.

As the season went on we heard less and less of the Drive-by's.

I suppose that they came to realize that they were starting to look real stupid with thier off handed comments in light os the sucess of the football team.

Now that the season has come to an end, the drive-bys are back trying to degrade anything that relates to Amat.

So, now you have to ask youreself one simple question here. What is the point of all this ?

In other words, what their aganda ?

The funny part is that we even have a guy who is suppose to have been a graduate of Amat who has become the champion of the drive-bys.

What makes this so remarable is the lengths that these people go to inorder to put down everthing relating to Amat.

We even have a guy quoting the bible, and in his post he himself is doing the very same thing.

Wow what compleate idiots.

To jma kma...I just saw your blog. This was a cut and paste from the bottom on this blog.

"amat who?-and even if you were from LO, which I doubt, a 4 pt win on a 4th & 23 isn't exactly an ass-kickin'. Two weeks later plus a QB change and the Lancers win by 2 touchdowns"
Posted by: reality czech

I would imagine this is what jma jr. was referring too even though I do not see any of that extra window dressing he stated. Despite that, I do understand his point with "two weeks later plus a QB change and the Lancers win by 2 touchdowns". That's an excuse to me, and perhaps jma jr. as well. Rubbish! It's a lose, plain and simple.

From a SGV Parent...

I've been reading a few of these bloggers comments who are against Bishop Amat. There are some interesting statements made by a few. People are tired of the ego maniacs from Bishop Amat. The more and more I read and hear from people, the more I realize how much the school is turning into the black sheep of the valley. Interesting enough, it even sounds like some Bishop Amat people themselves feel the same way. You may soon see the Bishop Amat way of life fall into a pit of despair soon because they are on that road now. The funny thing is, it will be their fault. Could it have been avoided? You better believe it.

And Bishop Amat, you’re a catholic school, correct? Well, here are some examples of an untamed tongue, things you are definitely guilty of.

Proverbs 12:18-19, 13:3, 16:27, 17:7, 18:8, 25:18, Matt 7:15, Eph 4:25, Philippians 2:14.

Gossip, Putting others down, Bragging, Exaggerating, Complaining, Flattering, Boasting, Ridicule, Sarcasm.

There are no words to express the disgust for a so-called catholic school not knowing this! Shame, shame!

Go back and find ONE post that contains an excuse or one post anything like
"uh well, we were, uh, like better and stuff because uh, like we’re amat and stuff and you suck los osos. you're a public school so you like suck and we’re better because we’re private".
JUST ONE!

good posts amat graduate.

you are right, you are so so right!

i will say one thing though dude, you speak the truth. you've said what you know and what the facts are. leave this blog for the prima donnas from amat. it makes them feel better to write their posts about themselves. it makes them feel better to know that the tuition they're spending is worth it. so lets sit back, read and laugh.

its funny to read posts from amat parents and players. that los osos game, well amat lost, right? instead of taking it like men and saying they flat out lost, all you heard and read was, "uh well, we were, uh, like better and stuff because uh, like we’re amat and stuff and you suck los osos. you're a public school so you like suck and we’re better because we’re private". shot me in the head...YOU LOST DUMBA****. accept the defeat and show this class that you speak of. stop making excuses. if you're such a "power house" and all, THEN SHOW IT! i have NEVER seen so many excuses on posts in my life from ANY team about their loses.

typical crybaby bull...

"Trojan fan is Trojan Man, what a loud mouth you've become now that Rosemead is winning again. What happened Trojan Man fell off, or were you pushed off, the Glendora Bandwagon? You're the one that's pathetic!"

I must have missed something. Trojan Man? Rosemead? Glendora? You must have me confused with someone else. What do these things have to do with Bishop Amat recruiting and thinking they're the best?

Try again Trojan Man Wannabe because I don't get it.

Trojan fan is Trojan Man, what a loud mouth you've become now that Rosemead is winning again. What happened Trojan Man fell off, or were you pushed off, the Glendora Bandwagon?

You're the one that's pathetic!

Amat Grad is right though. Unfortunately Amat Grad, your posts are worthless. Do you think they're smart enough to get it? Of course not.
Let them enjoy their fantasy land with this paper because once it’s over, most won’t be going to college to play, if they go to college at all.
You and me will see them hauling gravel for Robertsons.
And better yet, we’ll see how many kids they recruit this year and take from other schools, and you call yourself’s the best?
Pathetic!

Actually the 90's had better quality linemen with many scholarship lineman coached by Coach Mulvehill.

The eighties only had Auzenne.

Amat Grad

You know, the true test that should be applied here, is one that is objective.

If you look at what coach melvehill has accomplished this year. And if you compare it to last year’s special teams, and kicking games, anyone can see that there has been a big improvement with the performance of these Amat teams, no question.

I will remind you of last years Orange Lutheran game in which the visiting Lancers pulled off a few fake kicks while punting the ball. Because of that, they were able to jump out to a big lead early in that game, yet if you compare this year’s game to last year’s fiasco, you will note the biggest difference of them all a victory by our Lancers.

Keep in mind that this year them team did not allow one run back for a touchdown, and there were more than a handful of blocked field goals and big run backs by our team for huge yardage.

Coach Melvehill brought a significant improvement to this program this year.

So, the next time you take a man to task for his abilities as a coach, at lest use the objective test first.

Shining
Anytime. I think we all need to laugh during these tough times. I have softened up on the Amat program and thought I might have some fun with the bloggers. I am considering doing an x-mas one we shall see.

I was reading with mild amusement the comments from the former amat player. I would like to toss my comments into the fray

"That man couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag!"
"I am a proud Lancer but intelligence, class and knowledge have helped me"

Anyone see something wrong with the above two statements in the same post?. Amat Graduate do me a big favor. Pull up your internet explorer type in dictionary and look up the definition of the word hypocrite and I would be willing to bet your photo would be next to the explanation. Slamming a coach in starting off your post then at the bottom patting yourself on back as you having " class" is almost humorous.

I'm making some of the "bad Amat" fans aware.

Always nice to see a former player come on the blog and do his duty to inform Amat fans about the bad apples out there. As I have said before when you point a finger at someone else you have three pointing at yourself. Again your post reeks of cockyness. By the way since you were all league and played in college inspite of your coaching, have you volunteered your services to any of the local schools? I am sure some " lucky" school would be more than pleased to have a man of your humility and grace giving coaching advice.

I am someone who doesn't care for the Amat program but I have warmed up to them because of the class of some of the people on this blog. I used to think most Amat fans here were cocky but I have learned over time that most, with a few acceptions, are passionate fans of the program. The " bad apples" seems to come from random posts like Graduates. It's the random drive by artists ( and I speak from experience as I use to be one) that seem to cause all of the problems.

Last comments on this comes from this comment on your post.

"well...I was just merely making the statement that Amat's coaches (in the past)aren't as good as the Tribunes has made them out to be. The coaches that they have this year, well they look good but I can't say exactly because I don't know first hand.

How can you say they aren't as good as the Trib says and in the next sentance say you don't know first hand? You remind me of John Kerry who ran for president a few years ago, a flip flopper. It is very obvious with former head coaches coaching special teams, defense ect that this is a very good staff. You being a former player should be able to see this. If I were you Grad I would go easy on the Amat bloggers. I learned a long time ago it's a losing battle.

King Stud...

THAT WAS FREAKIN HILARIOUS!

Thanks for making this ol Amat alum and fan actually laugh out loud!

You next post will probably be anti-Amat in nature and I more than likely will not like it...but I don't care! HAHA!

Thanks for the laugh man...

Fellow Grad,

First, it seems as though it is you that has come "out of the woodwork" as the guys you have talking to have been here all year - and longer. And actually it was *you* who attacked the coaching staff, to which I'm sure is what others took offense to. So who does that make the bad guy so far?

Now son, I am really sorry you had a less than pleasant experience with Coach Mulvehill. He must have swore at you and hurt your feelings, as he was prone to do in the day. As I say to many bloggers, I'm sure *you* don't want to be judged forever on how you may have behaved 10-15 years ago. Plus, I can guarantee you one thing. If you did play college football it is certain that your coaches also watched coaching tapes, as all in the profession have an extensive collection in every office I've ever been to. Another common practice is visiting and observing other staffs. Coaches do that until the day they retire... and then some. So Bill is in good company to take the time to be a student of the game. If you played in the '80's-early '90s, granted he's no Bob Woods or Joe Rodger by any stretch - I'll give you that. Who is? . If you played in the mid '90s... maybe you're among that group that's a little bitter over how the last staff fared and some particular coaching hires on this staff.

However, for you to disparage Coach Salter (and how did he get in the conversation anyway?) and knock him for not playing HS football because he happened to play basketball AND baseball for 4 years for the Lancers is ludicrous. (Mike Leach at Texas Tech never played college football... does that make him a BAD college coach?) Mater Dei's legendary basketball coach didn't play varsity HS basketball... he was cut from the JV team ... he was a baseball player. He's done fairly well on the hardwood. And no, it's NOT just the players. I could go on. Every year back then the coaches (King and Killingsworth) would try to talk him into playing... but 3 sports wasn't his thing and he was a REALLY good left-handed pitcher until an arm injury. Salter grew up around the game and has probably forgotten more football than we'll ever know. To say that "Coaching hasn’t helped the program, it’s been the players, PERIOD! " is a far more arrogant statement for a former Lancer to make than ANY comment from ANY blogger all season long.

Especially after Salts took over an 0-10 Culver City team and turned them into a perennial power must say something *about the coaching... and the players*. Hagerty left in the '90s to go to Paraclete who hadn't won a game in SEVEN years. Shortly thereafter they won 3 straight CIF titles. It was the players there too? Sounds fairly arrogant of *you* to take all the credit for Amat's successes... yet you want todays' fans to shoe some respect? Respect? Are you showing any? Really? For who?

It seems you took offense to Fred's term "all-star coaching staff". Realize that all things are relative. How many schools have former Head Coaches/Ad's relegated to "special teams" coach? That's what your favorite line coach handles. At most schools that's for the low man on the totem pole... the kid that just graduated and is hanging around. Not a former head coach. Gallagher and DiFiori were both SGV Head Coaches of the Year at La Salle and Temple City ( I think) respectively ... and they're *position coaches*! Canales and Mulvehill were former Head Coaches. How many high schools have FIVE coaches with HS head coaching experience on their staff? It's all relative... yes, All-Star. How many valley schools have a former D1 All-American with nearly 100 NFL starts as a coordinator. Other schools have that? All-Star. Add to that a handful of other D1 players (Rix, Sermons, Harris, Woods) CIF Champions, and a CIF Player of the Year (Ili) that coach their positions and, relative to other high school staffs ... yes... All-Star. Sorry that offends you!

Hey Amat Grad,
This will be the only thing I say to you so if you came back with a response, I'm not getting into a p!ss!ing contect with you.

I don't know when you started to read this blog but for forever and a day I've been defending the school against these drive bys like you've been reading. It's been going on since Day One here so get used to it.

Maybe you should take it easy. It's bad enough we have to battle the outside forces but to start a battle amongst ourselves?

OK, so you have an opinion about the coaches. Are you telling us that you became All This and All That solely on your GOD given talents and they had nothing to do with it? So your telling us your time at Amat was a complete waste? If you can do a better job coaching these kids, send in your resume.

You have to remember to last year and the hell we went through. Look at the kids we had on that team and we did NOTHING. Believe it or not, coaching does have a lot to do with it. At least that's my opinion, I know you believe otherwise.

"So please Grad, do us all a favor and get off this high horse of yours. It's starting to smell like manure in here already."

See JCAZ, you hit the nail right on the head! Read your own statement. "Get off this high horse of yours". THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING; You're Bishop Amat I Think I'm Better Than Everyone Else High Horse. You said exactly what I've been trying to say. Readers, other people in the valley, etc...don't want to smell the manure, as you called it...the manure the bad Bishop Amat fans constantly MAKE! Do I hear the “H” word? You know what it is. You seem bright enough to get it.

"Hey Amat Grad, did I touch a nerve or what?"

Hey JCAZ, I was just going to ask you the same thing my friend. After reading your post...speaking of striking a nerve!? (LOL) Nevertheless, as I told Tomas, I'm making some of the "bad Amat" fans aware. I've said it time and time again. There is not much more I can say. And speaking of "bashing" a coach, well...I was just merely making the statement that Amat's coaches (in the past)aren't as good as the Tribunes has made them out to be. The coaches that they have this year, well they look good but I can't say exactly because I don't know first hand. Perhaps they are good. I know as players, they were outstanding players. Though, outstanding players DO NOT always make good coaches. But, I do know first hand when I played and some were pretty bad. Agree with me or not, it doesn't matter. I will say this...in the off-season when I would train with a private OL coach, he would rip his hair out when I first came back from after the season because of all the bad habits I learned from Uncle Bill. It would take me a few weeks to finally get those bad skills out of my system, and in college, I totally broke free of them. And this private coach played in the NFL, so please…no need to try to prove me wrong. It’s a dead issue. I loved Uncle Bill but fact is fact. He wasn’t very good. For my closing statement…we can go back and forth here. We can write blog after blog, insult each other, etc etc… The fact is, I don’t think the “new aged” Amat fan get’s it. That is why I have never read a post supporting my stance on that.

Funny, you all come out of the wood work now. You don't like having some truth being thrown in your face from one of your own, huh? Regardless, the truth stings, I know...no need to say it. The more and more posts I read from so called "Bishop Amat" people, the more disappointed I become. I'm beating a dead horse, Tomas Gurrolla, Jr., Another Hog, JCAZ, etc. And Tomas, you were too small to play college ball. I know who you are. You played at Amat. You know me too but I'll never give you my name because, basically...what's the point? This isn't supposed to turn into a battle, a grudge match. I'm making you "other" Amat fans aware. If you are too stupid to get it, then that's one thing. If you just refuse, then that's your choice too. Nevertheless, I’m trying to help you out. And Tomas, no need for the derogatory words. If you’re an Amat graduate, good grief…show some class! Someone also needs to talk to “Bleeds Blue and Gold” as well. He is an embarrassment to the school and program, an absolute embarrassment. Funny, no one say’s anything about him though. Is that the Amat standard now? God help us! And Tomas, why do I need a name to preach the truth? Come on, use your head here. Another funny thing; my comments are directed towards the “bad” Amat fans, YET…you all are getting offended. Do you all feel your God’s gift to this green earth? How come I don’t hear anyone agree with me about these “bad Amat” fans? Odd! Nevertheless, good luck to the schools who are actually playing tonight. Remember, not all of us Amat people are overbearing.

PS: Another Hog…so there is a difference between 80’s players and 90’s players then? From the reactions, it sounds like the 80’s players were a much better quality of people. Sad, isn’t it?

Hey Amat Grad, did I touch a nerve or what? It seems as if you can certainly dish it out, but you seemingly can’t take it when someone comes back at you eh?

Yes my friend, you did indeed hold the high ground when you held you're tongue just now, and did not respond in kind to my barb. But what strikes me as being truly funny here with you is that, you're in here acting as if you're somehow "better" than most of us.

Where does that come from? You're humble side?

Look grad, if you come in here throwing grenades at people, don’t be surprised if they throw one back you're way. It goes with the territory right?

In fact, if you don’t like certain things about the way this blog is run, ok, you have a right to you're opinion, but if memory serves me correctly here, you were the one who came in here first, ditzing an Amat coach, and then you proceeded to jump on the Amat bloggers because they continued to run stories on Amat.

What was that all about?

My friend, if you don’t like the fact that Amat has a thread in this blog, then by all means, stick to the Glendora or Northview, or South Hills threads. There is no reason for anyone to come in here and bash people unless they have some sort of open agenda against someone or something.

Anyone with an objective and open mind can see that it is you that has the bigger problem here, because remember, it was you who picked the fight in the first place.

So please Grad, do us all a favor and get off this high horse of yours. It's starting to smell like manure in here already.

Amat Graduate will never say his name because he is the truest P**^Y of them all. Don't preach you blow hard without backing your statements with a name. Come clean and surprise everyone wit your over blown credentials. If you relaly are a an Amat grad that makes you only more of a coward. Any time and any place. Lancers don't run from any one.

Amat Graduate,
What year are you? Late eighties maybe? Definitely not a nineties guy.

JCAZ...of course you don't believe that I ever set foot on the Bishop Amat campus. You can't accept that "one of your own" is not on your complete side. Trust me, I'm not surprised! I was a two year starter and an all league and valley performer. Plus I went on to go play in college. So, save the lame “cleaned the toilets after a football game” remark. It’s a simple statement from a simple man. I have several “back-lashes” to that statement but I’m not going to be juvenile. But, of course, you expect me to be cocky as the rest, be loud, arrogant, and basically, clueless! You are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Frankly, it's sad. The disgusting thing is...I see more and more that the "new aged" Amat fans are not the way they used to be. You guys don't care if current players get on here and make complete and udder fools of themselves. You don't care if you come across as complete jerk-offs!...(pardon my French) You just can't accept that one of your own doesn’t see eye to eye with you. See, I have class and I know A LOT about football unlike some of these Tuesday All-American Bishop Amat football parents! I saw too many parents trying to live there “incomplete” football careers through their kids back at Amat. And JCAZ, your beginning comment in your response blog said it all. Frankly, there is nothing more to say in response to this post except…you can’t accept that one of your own does not support your arrogant and ignorant ways. You’re a disgrace to the blue and gold! A complete disgrace!!! And by the way JCAZ, I don’t see you playing tonight, (and I find it hard to believe that YOU are affiliated with Bishop Amat in ANY WAY). Perhaps if you “think” you are a big fish in a little pond my friend, perhaps you need to be in the playoffs’ FIRST before you praise yourself my Tuesday All-American little friend. I’ll say it again; I just hope some of you TRUE Bishop Amat faithful (not JCAZ) will wake up!

Who?-ask yourself this? would YOU rather have the chance to go against LB Poly and play 1 game-or beat up on an awful Elsinore team and play again. The answer tells me if you're a REAL player or not!

Bleeds Blue & NO GOLD

Didnt see you on Thursday..

What a loud mouth P--SY.

Amat should consider dropping down, because you didnt beat us in two years. LOLLOLLOL

Enjoy wishing what if.. you were playing tonight. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Amat Graduate

I can't believe that you ever even set foot on the campus except to perhaps clean the toilets after a football game.

However, if you feel that Amat is taking the spotlight away from the other programs in the valley, because of its success in the past, then I will agree with you there.

Last year, I had the pleasure of flying on the New York Yankees Charter, which by the way, doesn’t fly in and out of LAX.

What struck me as somewhat odd and perhaps somewhat elitist according to you're definition, was that when they got onto the plane, the first thing that was made known to the crew, was the fact that they were flying “the” New York Yankees, and not some run of the mill bush league team.

Imagine the passengers on a commercial flight telling the pilots, flight attendants etc, what was the expectation of them coming form those who were seated on board? Wow right?

Anyway, the "rules” were rather simple. And they were that there was not going to be any unnecessary communications from the crew to the players. The pilot was told to shut up and not make announcements over the loud speaker that they were flying over places like the Grand Canyon (I guess that they had seen it a few times already right?) and that the crew should already be aware of the fact that yes, they knew that they were the Yankees and that they didn’t need to have others remind them of that fact, by their fans, so please shut up, keep you’re distance, and jump when we tell you to.

Same here. I hate to say it (well, no I actually don’t hate to say it) but we are, as another famous Yankee once out it, “the straw that stirs the drink” in the SGV.

Amat Grad, it happens this way because we are “huge” here. Perhaps we are the big fish in a little pond as someone once put it, but were the gif fish no matter.

So, regardless of the fact that you don’t like it, you just have to recognize that as a fact, and just deal with it.

BTW, we don’t make the rules here, Fred does, and it’s simply a matter of economics right ? Amat is number one, and we have earned all that comes with it. Sorry.

"the reality is here is why the Trib is still printing articles about Bishop Amat.
Glendora-Upland III-12 hits
Northview-Paraclete -9 hits
MD Classic II: Monrovia-Duarte-13 hits
Sound Off:All Games-24 hits
Bishop Breakdown-FIFTY-NINE HITS" ..........

Well, people want to see the arguing back and forth, that's why. Don't kind yourself 'reality czech'. The Tribune knows what set's people off. They know what's going to get people going. This is an example of that. They want a blog that is going to be used and one that people will actually look at on a consistent basis. I guess you can say that the Tribune is smart in that aspect of business. It may not be a respectable blog subject, there may not be any point to the subject…BUT it grabs the reader’s attention. For example, John Doe from Walnut may not give a hoot about Bishop Amat, but he get’s a laugh out of seeing some of these outlandish posts. When the school Bishop Amat is mentioned, a lot of the time it's because of the Tribunes "over-use" of them, and that will ALWAYS get bloggers going. So, your 59 hits? That's why. Again, you make the good Amat fans look like neanderthals. Please, wise up! Remember, ignorance is bliss! I’m just glad that the Amat people I surround myself with, i.e. ex-teammates, a few old boosters, etc…are respectable. They represent the school well. I only pray that it will catch on and the ‘bad seeds’ will one day wake up. We can only hope, right?

I agree....Amat is done....other schools deserve the spotlight....even with all the recruiting and all the advantages....lame...

the reality is here is why the Trib is still printing articles about Bishop Amat.
Glendora-Upland III-12 hits
Northview-Paraclete -9 hits
MD Classic II: Monrovia-Duarte-13 hits
Sound Off:All Games-24 hits
Bishop Breakdown-FIFTY-NINE HITS

All Star coaching staff? Are you people out of your freaking mind? Bill Mulvehill??? Oh My God; I played offensive line for him back in the day (when he was an offensive line coach) and he was a joke. That man couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag! I had to learn the basics in college, no thanks to him! I apologize for the harsh words but he was terrible. I remember him watching “how to coach offensive line” videos when I played for him. He would also go and watch offensive line coach Rob Roberts up at Mt. SAC. He is just an example of some of the terrible coaches that have coached there, and trust me…there are many more. Coaching hasn’t helped the program, it’s been the players, PERIOD! Take Tom Salter for example, he was the same way. Heck, he never even played high school football. Tom wasn’t bright by any means. Anyway, this paper is out of their mind! Why are we still reading articles about Bishop Amat? They're done Tribune!!! THEY'RE DONE! Obviously you don't care who you piss off because you're still pushing your luck printing articles about Bishop Amat. Show some class, show some professionalism. As a Bishop Amat graduate, an all Del Rey league, an all San Gabriel Valley and college offensive lineman, it’s time to let go. Many Amat fans are loud, classless and ignorant. I know first hand, BUT some aren’t. Some DO have class; some do understand that there are other teams in the valley who are good or as good. Some will admit when they’re beat, some will admit when they’re not as good. Please Tribune, for me and every other Bishop Amat graduate and fan, let it go. Don’t make the good Amat fans look like ignorant, cocky and one sided fools! And Amat bloggers; do the same. Show respect for the teams still in the race. You don’t win any supporters and fans by throwing things in people’s faces. You don’t win any supporters and fans by thinking you’re the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am a proud Lancer but intelligence, class and knowledge have helped me. Good luck to all the teams still in the running. Remember…you’re representing the San Gabriel Valley. Take care!

Wonder IF anyone has pointed out to GG that Amat plays Damien on a fairly regular basis?

Does anyone know if Amat/Damien FB will meet next season?

amat who,
Have fun rolling around in the mud, pig. Still playing? BFD! Like I said, If I want to watch a quality team, Pop Warner beats you.

Maybe many years from now, your school might merit it's own blog line like we do, I doubt it though. I guess the Inland Valley Daily News doesn't give you guys the time of day so you have to come here, hahahahahaha. Not even the SB Sun or Riverside PE, hahahaha. You know The SGVT has the best blog in the southland, heel not even the OC Reg or the LAT can match.

Complain to them not to me you crybaby and watch for OUR blog line next summer, hahahaha. I'M LAUGHING IN YOUR FACE!!!

Bleeds Blue and Took a big dump

Maybe true, but at least were STILL playing on Friday, while your sitting on your BIG A$$ watching everyone else.. LOL

If you can roll out of bed tomorrow, see you on the field in the AM, if you can reach down and find some LOL

Night Night...

OK, Here is what I heard today from a Los Altos assistant. Greg Gano has the inside track or he already is going to be named the new Head Coach at Damien High School. This coach will moving on to Damien with Gano. As for my opinion, Gano is getting well to much of the star treatment. I for one, do not think he is a very good coach, so he will have to bring in experienced coaches to do all of the work for him and he will get the credit for a job well done, just like at Los Altos. Alot people are disalousioned with Gano ability to run the ship. I met numerours people whom were associated with Los Altos on Gano`s watch that were not happy with how he played favorites or how many parents would kiss his uknow what to get their son`s on the field. Well, if this who Damien want`s running their program go ahead and sell yourselves to devil to win a CIF Championship. I hope this info is all speculation and that Damien would take their time in hiring the right person for the job. I say Pete Gonzalez or Gil Jimenez or even Damien alumnus Raul Martinez a coach at Rancho Cucamonga. Even John Monger Should get a fair shot.

Good luck Damien faithful

amat who,
You'll need all the practice you can get, especially when Chino Hills ends your season. Butterball, so is that what your mother calls you?

King Stud.... That was hilarious, Just wondering how i`m going to explain my continuous laughter at the dinner table tonight.Good luck to all the remaining teams & best wishes to all bloggers & the trib staff, HAPPY- THANKS GIVING !!

KS

That, as Joe put it, was indeed classic !

Well done and very very funny.

KS,

That was CLASSIC!!! Still laughing aloud! 73 will remember that amat needed tearn earn their "Capital A" from me and did so early on under Hags. Even after your rise from the ...SHHHdonkeyboySHHHH... days it has been difficult for me to fully accept your full moniker (which I have a theory on that I'll share later) and I've had to resort to simple initials. But after that... King - you are a STUD!

Now for my Thanksgiving message I will refrain from some meaningful facts, lists and statistics and leave you all with some words of wisdom that may make some sense and you can put to use in some are of life.

I've said before I'm a sucker for books on Leadership and Organizational Management -especially those written by sports figures. My newest project is Rick Pitino's new book titled "Rebound Rules - the Art of Success 2.0"

I have just browsed through it but have read some parts that deal with comebacks and turning things around. A couple things he's had some success at. It made me think of the comparison between what Coach Hagerty and staff had in front of them on the season... and during a couple of their big comebacks this season.

Here are some bits and pieces that the intelligent and thoughtful among you may appreciate... amat who - you can skip it and revel in your big win over a powerhouse like Elsinore.

"One thing you must do in the face of adversity is to be honest with yourself, and with the people you're trying to lead. Acknowledge the difficult spot you're in and commence digging out of it. Don't point fingers, don't recriminate, and don't make excuses. Stay positive and get to work.

The grand scheme at that very moment wasn't to emerge with a victory at night's end; looking that far ahead would have blurred our focus on the gradual progress that comprises every comeback.

It didn't take divine intervention to win that game; it took an unbreakable optimism, and a plan for coming back. Comebacks begin with positive energy .

They began with a belief that things would get better if we persevered through adversity, trusted each other and worked together.

They began with a conviction that consistent effort, even against long odds, inevitably would turn the tide. They began with a reliance on the fundamentals that made us a successful team to begin with, and we didn't desert them in a crisis.

They began with a single good play, and a certainty that one good play would lead to another and another and another

The most important thing I did in the course of those comebacks was to build my players' self- esteem. Don't tear them down for the mistakes that got the team in those holes to begin with; build them up to the point where they felt capable of making the plays that would result in victory.

There have been times when I've not been as positive with my teams during games. I have succumbed to the frustration of the moment and filled the huddle with negative energy, telling them, 'This is what you deserve because you practiced poorly.'

There certainly is a time for constructive criticism and even an outright tail chewing, but it's generally not when you're trying to rally people to redouble their efforts and perform at a higher level. That deprives your team of the hope that it can come back in adverse situations.

When it comes to team dynamics -- on a basketball court or in a corporate setting -- maintaining a positive atmosphere is crucial. Being relentlessly positive can be the only way to come back and defeat towering negativity.

Nobody goes through life without setbacks and struggles, some of them significant enough to cause you to doubt everything you believe in. You might be fired. You might face serious illness for you or your family. You might have a major financial setback, face an ethical dilemma, or find yourself starting over later in life. You might see a lifetime goal disintegrate, leaving you in a place you never imagined when plotting out your career path.

Will you have a gameplan in place to make your comeback?

You should, because the comeback is a classic American trait: We are a second-chance people. The story of the United States was not written by people who were handed everything. It was written by people reinventing their lives after encountering adversity -- by immigrants and cast-offs from foreign lands who took a leap of faith to make a new start in a new land.

Being confronted with adversity -- in sports, in business, in any walk of life -- can happen more often than anyone wants to admit. It will test you in ways most of us have never contemplated. Having a plan to deal with it can make your comeback a great one."

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL !!!

I doubt Nieto is behind any of these posts. I'm sure he has better things to do than blog about what sport Mac should play. From what I understand Nieto has no problem with Jerry Mac, Jay Anderson, Steven Carillo or Rio Ruiz playing football. I have spoken to Nick Lenhart and he has nothing but positive things to say about Nieto. When he decided to stick with football Lenhart said Nieto was one of his biggest supporters. Boys you only get one chance to go to high school. Make the most of it and play any sports you choose. There will come a time when the choice will be made for you and not by you. Why is there all this hatred for a coach who was helped Amat win back to back CIF titles?

K Stud,
Great post and a Happy Thanksgiving to you too. It's been fun this season trading barbs with you .
To all my fellow bloggers many blessings and a very Happy Thanksgiving to all.
For all the local teams still in it go there and make us all proud of THE SGV.
Respectfully,
AMAT 73

You forgot TWO coaches. Jason Harris and Trevor Woods. As the editor maybe you could invest in an Amat football program? Just a thought...

Bleeds Blue and Gold

Talk is cheap old man. I'll be at practice tomorrow. Put up, show up or shut up.

I have a heart monitor if you need to control your heart rate after the pre-practice warm ups. Don't eat to much pie tomorrow or you'll not be able to keep up.

See you soon, Butterball

One more thing. Let me also say congrats to the Amat football team on a great season. A tip of the old hat to Hags and staff and the players on a good season.

BB&G
Don't worry about this idiot. He only came out today because it rained and it is flooded under his rock .Why else would this jerk suddenly appear after a whole season. As soon as it clears and dries up he will go back never to be heard from until the next rain.

amat who,
If I want to see lower level teams, I'll go to my local park and watch Pop Warner teams who I'm sure out on a better show than you do.

If I were you, I wouldn't be out on the street, you could wind up on someones dinner table tomorrow, TURKEY!

baseball parent AKA NIETO

This guy has a hidden apst at SC. Just look into the SC jersey situation and you might be surprise.

Hey Andy, want to trade-out for some more football tickets? SC not Amat, oh I forgot they didnt retain you...

LO who?

You've had two years of excuses while playing down to our level. LOL, LOL

Bleeds Blue and Gold

Hey old man, come on down to practice tomorrow since you won't be watching your team.. LOL

We'll see who has the big stick.. So far its 2-0 old man. Now, if you honkies think you can win in our league, maybe CIF can arrange it, because your no PAC-5 contender at 1-2 LOL

See you tomorrow and make sure to wear that bleeds blue and dumps sh$$ sweatshirt.

I also agree with Don and yourself on going for all you can while in high school. These will be some of the best times in their lives as far as first time experiences and just plain enjoying life and making lifetime memories.My daughter who is a Class of 05 graduate has already lost 2 fellow graduates to untimely deaths so just walking out the door is a gamble. Might as well gamble doing something you love and have fun at and will remember the rest of your life.I guarranty you if the core of returning players go on to win CIF next season JM will be kicking himself in the ass for not being a part of it and following it thru to the end. I also don't think we will be losing coaches because their work is not completed. They signed on to bring back the tradition and the glory and until we wear the Serra and PAC-5 crowns the job is not complete. In closing I would like to thank Hags and the coaching staff and to all The Men in Blue for a great season .

Let's get this back on topic of the great turnaround, player performances and the coaching staff. Keep in mind that even with our previous down years Amat remains as one of only SEVEN schools to win a D1/Pac-5 title since 1990 and one of only FOUR teams to win multiple championships during that time. That's pretty "elite" by anyones standards if you ask me. Ending the season in such an exciting way against a Long Beach Poly team that has been in 8 of the last 11 CIF Finals is nothing to be ashamed of.

A couple/few 4th down plays throughout the year and we're talking about additional potential wins over Los Osos, Loyola, and Poly too. Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda. Instead - remember what you DID. Remember the numerous 4th down conversions throughout the season that did work. Remember the camaraderie. Remember the renewed commitment and pride and trust in each other. Remember the tradition, and that respecting what you represent helps to create that pride and trust. Remember how committing to a common cause and trusting in the staff and a game plan took you to greater heights. Remembering and understanding that creating that synergy will allow you to succeed in future endeavors in other groups you belong to. Remember the world record for the 4x100 is faster than the 400. What the group can do is far greater than what any one person can do.

As for the coaching staff, depth is a great thing to have. If someone where to go we do have others in place to step up and fill those shoes. But I'm not sure that is going to happen... at least not yet. We have a bunch of coaches that love where they're at. Trevor Woods said it best and I think speaks for the entire staff when he says his, “heart bleeds Blue & Gold, and home is where the heart is.”

I have to agree with Joe and Don. You have one oppurtuniy to enjoy and make the most of your high school career. I am sure Coach Nieto doesn't want to hear about all the fulfillment Mac gets from football. There is NOTHING like football at Amat. Why cheat or pressure him out of that excitement? Like Joe said - you can't put him in a plastic bubble, so injuries are always likely. Jer -- play some footbal, take it for all you can and good luck in baseball. You play for Amat, not Mr. Nieto. Coach - please put aside the pressure and let the kid make up his own mind.

damn right BASEBALL PARENT is Nieto. he is that calculated and twisted. He will be on J-mac for the rest of the year. of course we want him to do well in baseball - who wouldn't? but i will not stand by and tolerated little man nieto pulling that crap. he is so bad for our school. when will this finally be acknowledged?

Don,

That was great!

I completely agree with multi-sport participation for high school kids. Do that while you can and create as many memories as possible. I can guarantee that Jerry will remember the Orange Lutheran, Crespi and Long Beach Poly games LONG after the memories of ANY of his fall ball games are long gone.

As for former Lancers, it certainly didn't hurt Dennis Wyrick, who did finally end up at ASU and the aforementioned Adam Simon at UCLA. David Pierson played basketball for the Lancers and ended up at San Jose State. Coaches just worked it out in the best interest of the kid. The basketball coach let him play a baseball game on Friday and won a CIF Basketball final the next afternoon - sandwiched between two CIF baseball rings. Or John Jackson and Randy Tanner from back in the day who ended up two sport stars (playing BOTH) at USC. Or QB JR Phillips who was drafted by the SF Giants.

And since we're talking catchers, Joe Mauer was a great HS quarterback (and played basketball too) it certainly didn't hurt him. So was Adam Dunn (Diamondbacks), Todd Helton (Rockies), Josh Fields (White Sox), and Mark DeRosa(Cubs).

The bottom line is can a player play? If Jerry turns out to be an "elite catcher" the offers will be there. Period. College offers will be based on a players ability... not whether they commit to one sport in HS or not.

Finally, if you're worrying about injuries... then don't cross the street, drive anywhere and by all means - be careful eating that Turkey tomorrow... I've read of plenty of incidents of choking on turkey bones.

I remember Mike Lange trying to go straight up with a linebacker instead of running out of bounds like a smart QB should, he hurt his shoulder and altho it was not a major injury it was not a smart move and goes to show footbal bangs you up. McClanahan should concentrate on Baseball this is stronger of the two when it comes to sports. Sure kids should play as much sports as they want in HS but if you are that special player that is already being scouted why would you want to risk that College offer or MLB amature draft on a football career that is not going to get you anywhere?...Sure there are not a lot of full rides when it comes to baseball but there are colleges that will pay partials which is better then paying a full amount for college. Jerry stick to Baseball and dont listen to these people that care nothing about you all they want to see is Bishop Amat win on the football field. With that talented football coaching staff they will move forward without you. Think of your future first.

Dear Mrs. McLanahan,

You have to relax a little, you're letting all of Mike Viera's hot air elevate your mood a bit too much. Kind of like one of those balloons at the Temecula yuppie festival.

Anyhow, no problem letting your kid concentrate on baseball, but before you start sizing up investment counselors to handle his draft bonus you should really check out the market a bit. I only saw your baby play four times last season but frankly to call him one of the “elite catchers in the nation” seems a bit of a stretch. I will allow he was one of the three best Sophomore Catchers in the area last year, how's that.

As for the “full ride” you probably ought to know that NCAA Division 1 schools have fewer than 12 total baseball scholarships to offer; that's total, not 12 every year. “Full rides” as you say, are sort of hard to come by. More common are partial schollies which are sometimes augmented with other assistance.

Like I say, do what you like with the football thing, your choice. The wild claims of college educations for playing a sport though, seem to lead a lot of parents of younger kids to make choices based on sports rather than education. That troubles me some and I try to bring folks a bit closer to reality when I can.

Your Friend in Baseball,

Don

Los Osos who? Give me a break. LO is so overrated. For having 5000 students you should be playing in the Pac5. But we know that Pac5 teams would eat you guys alive. Hopefully you guys extend us the courtesy and the contract to play you again next year. You and I know that the outcome would have been different had big Mac started at QB for Amat.

Let kids be kids they should all have the opportunity to play as many sports in high school. We must all remember they are kids not professionals being paid. Let them make the choice not some egomaniac coach who thinks his team is the only sport. Mike Lange and Adam Simon will both tell you they would not have traded their football experiences. I believe all high school kids should have the opportunity to play what they want and decide for themselves. LET KIDS BE KIDS. EX COACH

amat who?-and even if you were from LO, which I doubt, a 4 pt win on a 4th & 23 isn't exactly an ass-kickin'. Two weeks later plus a QB change and the Lancers win by 2 touchdowns

amat who?-doubt it

amat who?
Wow, you are so tough, you have me shaking in my boots. hahahahahahaha so the rest of you must be a big d!ck.

It did cost Mike Lange. He was set to go to ASU until he decided to play football. The scholie was pulled and he ended up at Santa Clara.

McCalanhan should go full-time baseball. Before you get all excited hear me out. He is not at the same level as a Chris Rix, Matt Leinart, Cade McNown, Mark Sanchez, Jimmy Claussen, Matt Barkeley, or the Manning Brothers coming out of high school, few ever are, but if you have seen him play baseball you would agree that he is one of the elite catchers not just in the SGV but across the nation. He is that special in baseball. He took it out of ELAC as a sophomore in the semi-finals. He plays for the best travel ball team in the area. He will defintely get a ride to a division one school in baseball and if he goes baseball full-time there is a great chance he might even get drafted out of high school. Just some things to think about.

Baseball Parent....

Huh???

Ok, Coach Nieto!! We know it's you who wrote that!!!

I guess it didn't work out for Adam Simon, Mike Lange etc... playing both sports right??

It's going to be a little different at Amat now that you are not the "Only" program in town!!

Funny how a trip to the First Round of the Pac 5 playoffs drew MORE excitement/support from the school/parents etc.. than either of your hand-given CIF Titles...

bleeds Blue and Gold

Los O Baby and the "WON" as in one with real balls, you LOSER!

After the benching of McClanahan for the Notre Dame game it was not taken lightly and Baseball became the major focus for J-MAC. It is not Nieto to hold him back or let him loose to play football next year it is J-MAC and Co. that will determine that. It all honesty Jerry is a good QB but he is not great or does he show any poetential of going on to play College Football at a high level, but Baseball he is a natural and has a great chance of going somewhere. With the risk of a major injury in football next year, blowing your chances for your senior year in baseball, these are really deep issues the MaClanahans should consider. If I am dad I pull the plug now and get him to baseball 24/7 and do not look at football next year at all. This makes smart sense. He did come up hobbling a few times with a Knee sprain and next season it could be a major blow, Take the safe route Jerry and play baseball full time, football will get you hurt and hurt your future at the next level in baseball. I know most football fans parents will disagree from a selfish point, but this is a special talent on the Diamond and I do not want to hear what could have been of Jerry McClanahan in baseball had he not got that football injury. We all know these True stories all too well.

Notes on Amat

You know, I have to say that the defense this year was the glue that helped keep this team together. The only concern that I have here, is that we have allot of outstanding players graduating this year, and as result, I do not see the over all team as talented as this one was.

Having said that, the true irony here is that next years team could be loaded on offense similarly to the way this year’s team was on defense because we have some very good players returning. I am speaking specifically of course of Mclanhan, Anderson and Johnson. All of them are key players in key offensive positions.

Also, this years underclassmen played very well for both the JV and freshmen teams and will be making some contributions. One of the kids on the JV team was Nicholas Casarez. That young man will be a big time presence on this team in future years on the defensive side of the ball.

As for the offense, yes, I can see where it ran into a few bumps along the road this year. However, poor execution and crucial turnovers seemed to follow this team over the last few years, and it wasn’t just a one time occurrence.

Sure, mistakes happen, but the problem is "when" they happened. Mistakes put the team in the hole and it seemed as if the defense had to constantly bail us out of some tough spots.

As for Rios, yes I do agree. He is going to be a fabulous quarterback for Amat, but to say that he is ready for the Varsity is a big stretch at this point. While he has perhaps a far better arm than does any of the current Quarterbacks, his inconstancy, accuracy and judgment under pressure needs allot of improvement before you can take him seriously as next years starter even if Mclanhan does not comeback. Having said that, of course he will get better over time, but next year may just be a bit too soon for him unless something big happens.

Speaking of Mclanhan, I can’t see why he wouldn’t be back next year. After all, coming into a situation where he is the starter on a varsity team as opposed to being a backup has a tendency to sway a decision in more ways that one. And even though his is a big part of the CIF champion baseball team, I can see where coach Nieto might ease up off the reins a bit because there would be allot of pressure on him not to let this kid come back as the starting quarterback next year. Remember, football is king, and it’s going to be very difficult for coach to try to put the genie back in the bottle especially after such a great year. To quote Arnold, “He’ll be back”

As for the coaching staff. Well, attrition is always a factor in any part of life, so it stands to reason that a few of these excellent coaches will find an opportunity somewhere else.

I guess that you can’t always keep a great thing going all the time, because there are always other factors working against you.

Success is sometimes you're worst enemy because somebody else will seemingly always want what you have. Even now we can all hear the chatter coming from the other schools and how it would be great if an Amat coach came over to help them sort things out for them.

We shall see. You’re thoughts?

amat who?
What was the name of your school? Oh yes, you don't have the balls to say.

REALLY LOL!!!!

If you ask anyone who has laced 'em up and was worth a damn-they'd tell you they'd rather go one and done against a Long Beach Poly and a bunch of guys who are going to play at the next level-and even the next as opposed to winning 55-15 against a bunch of kids whose football days are over.
If anyone says different they're either lying or have never played a big game themselves.

bleeds Blue and Gold |

I guess this thread will help you heal from one and out..

LOL

Football Fan - Shut up this is our thread, go to yours.

blue - Hags is not Weiss or Tillingham.

league champs - You seem to be a cancer. Be a part of the program or take a hike.

boomer - Wrong thread, learn to read the subject line.

bushleague - see football fan, also good luck against
Burbank.

Cmon Fred Save the Headlines for the teams still in the playoffs

No love for WC

Hey Boomer, wait your turn, Basketball is just around the corner. LOL

breaking news:

cezar guerrero and bobby miles combined for 69 points together in a scrimage against vista high school is san diego. guerrero had 47, and miles had 22. put the lobos on top!!!!! they won the game also by the way.

league champs, chances are your son isn't nearly as good as you think he is. Or, he could be that youngster who needs time to develop. It's a shame that parents live their dreams through their kids because they, themselves, were career Saturday players. Good grief. Get off the kid's and the school's and the coach's backs. Your son might just develop and be part of a championship team if you don't screw it up.

bleeds blue,
Just because you disagree with the comment doesn't make it dumb! And, I am a former amat coach, not a parent. I can evaluate talent and I spoke the truth. As far as the dumb comment, I was making reference to someone else's quote about making a complete commitment to something greater than yourself when Jesus said, "He who is not with Me is against Me." Luke 11:23 You may bleed blue but are you sure you are from amat? "Those of you without sin...", "One who has no love for the brother he has seen...". If someone wants to be part of something like a team, then they should be committed to it. That's all! You saw how well the "team" played this year when "all" the players were focused as one. Come on...You're not dumb!

As a very disappointed amat parent I wish someone would have said we were getting rid of coaches like "canales and crew". I watched talent waste away on the Sat games as our kids were put on this team because we were not alumuni. My son was invited to amat with a schlorship in academics and proved himself to coaches in two sports. I was not going to waste his precious years waiting for coaches to come around. So anybody on track to amat be sure you know somebody otherwise it is a waste of effort.

Former Amat Coach

How can you post such a dumb comment, "if you are not with us you are against us". Everybody that attends Amat should support the football team or any other team from the school whether you play or not. For a Coach, which you sound more like a DAD (Mr. Ruiz) that is a stupid comment. Support AMAT

You forgot one name, Trevor Woods, who is a very good coach. He has a lot of experience and knowledge. He has won Cif championships as a player and as a coach. I believe, he and Difiori are the only ones that can say that. If anyone on that staff gets an opportunity to call plays, it should be him. Put him up top and let him give his insight, at the least. That being said, this year was only a glimpse of what Coach Hagerty has in his bag of knowledge about winning. The program was so far down that he was limited in what he could do. With more time, all the phases of the game will be on an upper level of efficiency, including the passing game. Rio Ruiz is the real deal. As a freshman, he throws the ball better than most seniors playing this year. There were many drops this year at the freshman level because the receivers have not yet developed enough to handle that type of pass. They will! Rio also has poise and good vision of the entire field, is a leader and just a good football player. I could see him playing next year. If anyone from this years team doesn't want to make a commitment to next years team, I know they will be missed, but as they say in Lancerland, "if you're not with us, then you're against us!" Congratulations to Coach and the rest of the staff and continued success in the future! Great players make great plays, because they have great coaches! Keep that staff together!

tyrone willingham and charlie wiess had a great first year to

Ok, so they had a good year so did a lot of other schools (like Walnut) where is their ink.....Get over Amat. They are done til next year.

They need to add 1995 grad Kory Minor in the coaching mix.

Hat's off to you BA, great year. When I played in the 80's it was always BA #1 and the rest of us were judged from 2-10. I played with some studs from BA in the Shrine game and they helped the east kick the crap out of a very good West team.

Lancers,

Just out of curiosity, how much does a staff like this cost?

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Hagerty assembled an all-star crew that included Ealar Gallagher (offensive line), Mike DiFiori (linebackers), Chris Rix (quarterbacks), Rodney Sermons (running backs), Daylon McCutcheon (defensive coordinator), Willhans Ili (defensive line), Joe Canales (defensive end) and Bill Mulvehill (special teams)
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In any event, I think BA got their money's worth...

By the way, where are all the 0-10 or 1-9 predictors?

Still can't get over that game... Incredible- execution, huge plays, defensive stands... That was truly some of the best high school football in the nation. Fred, you missed a true classic. One of the best football games I've ever seen. One play either way changes the result. It feels like the coaches are just getting started and are on the verge of something great... another head coaching job just doesn't seem like it would be worth it.
This is a hard season to say goodbye to...

The final sentence is the 64K question, we'll find out soon enough. My wish is for Rix to call plays next year. the offense seemed to struggle the second half of the season. The view from the top gives the better perspective.