Bishop Breakdown

Are the decisions on league re-allignments made public?

Allot of those are from Amat folks.

Just look at the names of those who are posting.

amat is a good thing-the 1st 100 are play-by-play posts by Fred - that doesn't quite count now-does it?

charter oak thread 214 comments. there is more than amat on this blog

Alemany has traditionally been a good football school, and they would probably be a good addition to the Serra league. But to be honest with you, I would rather see another school out towards this end of the county included into the Serra league, rather than those folks over there.

In that way, Amat would not be so isolated geographically from the other Serra league football programs because at present, we have three out of the four schools in this league that playing in the San Fernando Valley. Amat is the only program that is not in the area of those other three schools (remember Loyola plays at Glendale high school).

Maybe we could petition to get another “good” local football program included into our league. Perhaps another non catholic school like Charter Oak or South Hills.

I don’t think we could pull that one off however, because our league is a “catholic” league for football, but what the heck right? I mean we play other non catholic schools in our other sports all the time in league action.

Anyway, if this doesn’t work, perhaps Amat could be better served to somehow go east, into a league with Corona Centennial, or south into a league with St Paul, or maybe even perhaps even a return to an Orange county league if realignment is the topic of the day on Monday, and if there is a decision to somehow take us out of the Serra league.

It could happen you know.

The only danger to this type of realignment for Amat however, would be that to be included with a Centennial, it would mean no longer being a part of the Pac5, and an inclusion into a league with Amat’s traditional rival of St Paul, it would mean going down from a Division 1 program, to whatever classification that St Paul plays in.

Still, if you were to look at this realignment thing objectively, a league with Alemany, Crespi, Notre Dame, and maybe even Oaks Christian and St Bonnie (??) would make a whole lot more sense geographically for them, than one that simply adds Alemany into the current mix of things.

The funny part to this whole discussion is the fact that Alemany want’s to fight to stay out of the PAC5. I mean, don’t they always play against PAC5 schools all of the time anyway?

Oh well, still, as Pac Man just pointed out, while schools can appeal their placement into a new division, it doesn’t necessarily mean that an appeal would be successful.

Football: Big vote is Monday to revamp leagues
The Catholic Athletic Assn. has a meeting scheduled for Monday to take a vote on the revamping of leagues in football for the 2010-11 season, and don't be surprised to see Mission Alemany get moved from the Mission League into the Pac-5 Division Serra League with Sherman Oaks Notre Dame, Crespi, Bishop Amat and Loyola.

Another league could find Gardena Serra moving in with Harvard-Westlake, Chaminade, Cathedral, St. Francis and St. Paul.

The schools have pretty much decided they want to get rid of four-team leagues. Alemany, however, is going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Pac-5. Schools can always appeal if they don't like their placement.

I wanted to say congrats to CO. And a game with CO would be interesting with Amat, esp. as Amat continues to learn how to win.

Hey Amat alum, who and what year did you guys play. I was lucky to play in 92. Im lucky to play with or was coached by most of this years staff.

Yikes !!

You are absolutly corret my good man.

It was in fact, Dayne Crist that I was speaking of and not Jimmy Clauson.

jcaz,

Umm, Jimmy Clausen is a sophomore at the University of Notre Dame and graduated from Oaks Christian HS.

YOU NEED TO KNOW

So sorry you feel that way.

BTW, I didnt know you were now an Amat spokesman. ha ha ha. And, who promoted you anyway ?

But what can I say about the inequalities in life ?

Maybe you need to get a better paying job or something ?

Isn't the Amat Nation season over? Yes it is, because they lost in the first round, because they choked, because they weren't playing a D7 school like the whole preseason. They got whooped and they are gone! Out with the trash I say! 14 years and counting of NOTHING! Super suck it fellas!

Hey Joe(what a great Hendrix song that was)where you going with that gun in your hand! Anyway, what's your take on Swaydan, his transfer, his explanation, or should I say his Dads sales pitch, like I said , it will be a cold day in hades b4 that happens again, at AMAT, to have a senior to be transfer in and then to have him be like he was off the field, he was king of the small pond at Damien and tried to pull rank at Amat, I think he learn to much from his Daddy on how to get along with people

While I was talking football, good point about Jordan Swayden. He transferred from Damien after playing three years on their varsity (and I think football too). Coming from Damien it was clear he came from a strong academic background, which was a major factor in his acceptance.

We also accept freshmen who have taken their entrance exam at Damien, and vice-versa, so the schools have a healthy respect for each others academics. I'm glad we have renewed the matchup in football and baseball... it should be that way in basketball as well.

the last senior transfer I remember was a baseball player, Swaydan I believe . And he was not too well liked off the field as I recall.....it'll probably have to be a very good kid and with very good reasons before it happens again!

jcaz,
You were going pretty good for a while. even admitting to an error in you judgement of next years team along with your assesment of the coaching staff . then you come on here with what type of cars in the lot at Amat.Who cares about that and who cares about you blogging from bankok. who in the hell would bother to blog when your on vacation in places like that. becareful you are starting to sound like another pain in the a_ _ on this blog and Amat does not need someone like that on their side.nobody nedds or cares about your personel life. stick to the topic.

Pete G

Here is my take on you line there. Everyone only remembers the results of a season after it is don’t, and not the possibility’s of a season before it’s played.

Case in point, this year, you would not have believed that Notre Dame was supposed to have an “off” year given the fact that they completely dominated the Serra league this time around.

However, if you go back and read a few newspaper accounts on how they thought their season was going to turn out, then you would have noted that almost all of those folks over in Sherman Oaks would have told you that they thought this year was going to be a rebuilding year. The reason for that was that allot of the seniors from the previous year was graduating. That included their much heralded star quarterback, Jimmy Clauson,

With that in mind, do you honestly believe that next years Amat team won’t be able to compete next year?

BTW, and for what it's worth, I did come on this thread and make a statement to the effect that we “may” not have as good a team next year as the one before, one due to all of the senior losses. However, one of the other bloggers said it correctly, when he pointed out that, coaching makes a big difference at this level. Just ask Kevin Rooni what im talking about if you don’t believe me.

Also, believe it or not, not everyone is out of a job or is on the brink of bankruptcy in California. Some people can still afford to send their kids to private school.

In fact, if you just happen to look at the parking lot over at Amat these days, you'll see a few BMW's, Mercedes Benzes and such, sprinkled in with the Volkswagens and Toyota Corollas.

And for what it’s worth, I’ll be blogging in here from either Bangkok or Tokyo sometime during the next couple of weeks (X-mas break, don’t ya know). Some people got it good. What can I say?

73,

You're right we typically don't accept senior transfers... athletic or otherwise. The philosophy is if a student is going to have graduated from Bishop Amat they are going to earn that diploma - not just show up as a senior take a few electives and walk across the stage. The diploma means something.

We have not had many transfers over the years make a huge impact. Mazio Royster came in as a sophomore from the Pomona School District and recently Brandon Bennett from Azusa. We certainly are not THAT private school that raids the locals. It usually goes the reverse where the local public schools offer a more impactful playing opportunity (McBride/Tamayo/Tillis, etc)
Kids/families decide to come as freshmen and develop.

Now this WILL be the first time since the institution of the 1 time transfer prior to the sophomore year that we've been a viable option for an athlete to transfer to... so it will be interesting to see that dynamic develop.

Petey... you are SOOO hoping that that will be the case - but I'm afraid that you are mistaken. Our Annual Report just went out and there is a focus on financial aid for as many students as possible to address these tough economic times. Families should never be afraid or embarrassed to ask - there is aid for those that qualify, athlete or not. You can continue to hope Amat slips pack to the pack in the SGV... and we've seen that happen in the past few years. NO LONGER!

So for those that are thinking the big-time kids won't come... just wait 'til you see the next couple of freshmen classes - then we'll talk.

Trying to get to Mt Sac tonight and hope to see a great game. On Sunday expect an honest "State of the Lancers" report, why we are in the position that we are in, and how we can expect to continue this growth pattern.

AMAT parent,
We have never been big on recruiting players from the outside in their later years in high school.Not that we will turn a player away if they want to come but I can't recall AMAT ever excepting a senior year transfer and them starting the same season. Maybe Joe can elaborate more on that subject. We will be fine with the kids that come in starting with their freshman year and we do have some up and coming talent in the program. Remember everyone thought we would be 3-7 or worse with the players we had this season. In high school coaching does matter a taste more that an abundance of talent.You could have . Just look at the surrounding schools who are always in the hunt.They are made up of mostly neighborhood kids with a few transfers thrown in and seem to do well. When you build your team around transfers and not build on your constant students coming in your in trouble.Just look at Los Altos.

I forgot to mention the reason teams who lose great players can have a successful next season. IT'S CALLED HAVING A PROGRAM you bum! There is a program at Amat and don't you forget that! By the way, does anyone believe Anderson has the potential to be even better than Gaisie like I do? Or how about Johnson having a chance to be a better corner than Price? Or Cacares having the opportunity to be more effective than Gener? Just asking

Pete G., that's what let's me know you are a bum! How many teams have you seen lose many "great" players and come back the next year to be as good or better? There have been plenty. And of all the people you mentioned leaving, you haven't said one word about OL which is where the game is won or lost. I think there are seniors leaving, but coaching, at that position particularly, WILL make all the difference in getting whomever is there ready to compete, which in turn means Amat will have a chance to win against anyone. As for parity, what do you mean? We kicked the s$#% out of the SGV again this year. What more do you want. Stay down you bum and talk about that which you know, NOTHING!

To all of you who question why a AMAT thread when AMAT'S season was over 3 weeks ago. This is the night and the eve of championship games with 2 1/2 of our valley teams ( the half because we share Rosemead) and there are 87 hits on 7 threads concerning this weeks championships. One thread on AMAT and there are 73 hits. Do you get the reason now . Shame on all of you for not paying as much attention to our other valley schools about to play for a CIF Championship.

Speaking of recruiting. We all know Hagerty can coach and so can the rest of his staff, but can they get players to come there? Not incoming freshman, but player transfers. Is Amat in a position to get established players to come play for them next year.? If Amat has any chance to hang another Banner they must go to the outside for help. The neighborhood kids are not cutting it anymore. Can this Staff recruit is the biggest question. Joe Amat floor is yours.

You Missed it J.A...Parity in terms of schools and the SGV talent divided up. Winning breeds recruiting and since Amat is not winning the recruits are not coming there anymore and you will lose is Pac5 every year from here on out. Amat is the what the Cubs are to MLB baseball now. You cannot and will not get over that hump anymore. Dream team coaches is all good but talent goes along ways, nobody wants to pay tuition in these hard times only so the monsignor can have the best vintage of wine in his wine cellar, the days of Monsignor drinking ripple are over he has stepped it up a notch. Lots of money that people of Neighboring cities just do not have anymore shows why Amat has to take what they get but they have no real stars going there like before. The Chino Hills connection goes away at graduation time and I dont see a package like that coming in so you will get worse. Rios, McClanahan (if he comes back), Johnson,Anderson are very good players but to win Pac5..never. Replacing Seals, Maffie,Lenhart,Price, Gener,Teter,Creager,Gaise,Bowens,Prieto,Ibrahim, is 80% of your team. I do not see your JV /freshman teams as that talented. This was a good past season I will give you that but next year that team goes from 7-4 to 5-5 and no playoffs. dream team coaching or not. UNLESS there is some Daylon MaCutchen and John McKay type recruited in.

jcaz,
Yes he's gone out fishing with Fredo and Luca.

Pablo, Pablo, Pablo

Can't you see all the new friends that you’ve just made in here?

Haven’t you ever noticed that whenever a guy post's something, stupid or disrespectful of Amat in here, that within 20 seconds or so, he not only get's it thrown right back at him, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-10 Amat bloggers will bash him relentlessly and without mercy.

In a way, it's kind of funny though, because if you think about it, the Amat bloggers have a tendency to just lye in Waite for that proverbial, evil blogger to strike.

Then, like the ever vigilant lions and defenders of the Amat legacy (that we all know we are), they just pounce all over him !!

It really is way too funny.

Pablo, take my word for it, people like you only last a few short minutes in here. Then they simply give up.

You guys get chewed up and spit out real fast in here.

Note the very few folks who will smack once or twice then change screen names like they (hopefully) change their underwear. They simply go away.

BTW, I still haven’t heard from "Amat Not." Is he still practicing for the next game? Or has he (as Kenny Smith on TNT likes to say) gone fishing?

listen up Paul cerda, sign YOUR team up to play AMAT and please post the score, all will be interested in the big can of whoopass that is administered, that is, IF you have the stones to list your team as worthy, willing and able to hang with the best around.

paul cerda,
Unlike Oscar we have the juice to go toe to toe with the best . We may win some and lose some but I guarranty you we will always challenge the best regardless of the perceived outcome and not go out on the stool saying NO MAS.

Pete G,
We only got SGV football back on the map.By having a sucessfull year it only put us as well as the rest of the SGV back in the spotlight. Let me remind you . Fox Sports game of the week AMAT vs DR. Great opportunity for us and also DR to show case their respective schools and show the viewers what SGV football is all about. I would bet since DR had an excellent showing in that game they take a closer look at all our teams,CO,WC,SH and so forth and maybe broadcast another game including 2 other SGV schools next season. Also part of our present is our past which you would never understand.I am sure the same things were being said about SC when they had that string of bad years but all it took was the right coach in place and look at then now.

Amat expects and is expected to win... you have a great season but fall short in the end and you did nothing. The expectation is a double edged sword- affirming the strength of our program but making what would otherwise be a great season not great enough.

Don't just make playoffs, but win it all and do it every year. Don't just compete in the Serra League but win the toughest league in the Pac-5. Winning is what is expected. That is what tradition demands. The PAST, The PAST, the PAST- is our present. Our tradition of competing and winning continues. Having done "nothing" in 14 years really means that we haven't been ranked #1 in the nation and won CIF in that long. That is what is expected of Amat in order for the program to have done "something." I'll take it. It says a lot about a program when anything short of being the best in the nation is "nothing." We'll get there. 14 years is a while, but in the grand scheme of things, not really that long at all.

Petey,

There is no parity in the SGV as we've proved every time someone from the SGV gets on our schedule.... even in the last 14 years when you say we have been "down". This season...4-0 vs the SGV and outscored the opponents 134-49! Even better than the last string of games when it was CO/GHS/DHS that went down 96-16. Parity?!?

Do you know how many teams in the Pac-5 have won a CIF title in those 14 years. FIVE!!! Does that mean everyone else in the highest division has "done nothing". Are knuckleheads in the OC running around saying Servite has "done nothing" and is just "another school" They haven't won since '83! Edison is a football power, right... 1980! Santa Margarita, St John Bosco, Lakewood, Fountain Valley? Not in Div1! Think of ALL the schools in Div1/Pac-5. ONLY FIVE schools in 14 years! And we're one of them. Are ALL of those other schools "just another school?"

I like the Los Altos comment better myself.

Eagle20 comment
there is something wrong when a school that is not even in the playoffs is getting more press than those that are still in the race for a championship

I haven't read about Amat's football team in the paper. A blog is different in that it's content is based on its posters. A newspaper is driven by actual events. Don't confuse the two.

History Buff (the wood) We play and beat the best in So Cal.?? The best is still playing LBPOLY and you did not beat them. Amat is like Oscar De La Hoya Rich yes, but does not have it anymore.

hey petey g, have your school sign up to play AMAT, history repeats itself, we'll open a big can of whoopass on your team ...........again and then move on to the real deal............PAC 5... D 1...we play and beat the best in SoCal.

THE PAST
THE PAST
THE PAST.
Bishop Amat, what have you done for the SGV lately. 14 years and counting. Your football banner hoisting days are over. Times have changed and it is not like it was before and until you realize that you will get that there is much more Parity in the SGV now when it comes to Football. Amat is just another school now. Good History there but thats all it is history.

Eagle20...

The year was 1988,Bishop Amat had already graduated Mazio Royster and Stephan Pace just to name a few. All that was left was a bunch of "no-name" kids trying to fill the cleats of Amat History...

That year...the year Amat was supposed to get their asses handed to them, saw a historic season. Against all odds and against the USA Today's 2nd rank team in the Nation, your Amat Lancers defeated the Legendary Gene Vollnogle's Carson Colts.

That same year, this Amat team did the unthinkable by defeating USA Today's Numero Uno Team in the Loyola Cubs.

This was before Loyola was in Amat's league. And it was the start of Amat's dominance over the Cubs.

To this day, no other team in this great nation of ours can claim a victory over a #1 and a #2 Nationally ranked team in the same season.

Amat fans are true, dedicated, diverse, and many. Our pride runs deep and our memories of the field never dissapate.

You would be amazed to talk to some of those that attend Amat games. You will find that many have attended for 25+ years. They remember every name and game. The players and coaches are never forgotten.

Bishop Amat plays the best of the best. They always have and always will. Their actions will always dictate the quality of players from the SGV.

This year's team brought pride and fight back into the SGV during a time that the CIF is isolating the SGV from the rest of So. Cal.

And while this isolation continues, and while we see championships determined by Diamond Ranch vs. Charter Oak, remember that there is only one school...

one school that that rammed it to Orange Lutheran's rich spoiled brats, made Long Beach Poly pray,and taught Crespi a lesson they will never forget...

The San Gabriel Valley will not be ignored. It will not be isolated in some "Division ?" playoff bracket.

Where does our pride come from?

Draw your own conclusions...

Here's mine...

"Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue & Gold."

I give props to the posters and Amat faithful....I will never post here again because one...I am not an Amat fan...and two...there is something wrong when a school that is not even in the playoffs is getting more press than those that are still in the race for a championship....

I could blame Fred...but his stupidity has been well established...so no need for that....

Bottom line is that Amat gets people blogging and others don't so...enough said

Did I miss something? I can't believe what I'm reading....all the moronic idiots that come in here and bash this thread and Amat bloggers.

The last time I checked....was and still is an Amat football thread and no intent to disrespect the teams that are still in the finals.

Maybe you haters should go to your own thread (oh I forgot you don't have one) or collect some signatures, send it over to Fred and maybe you can have your own thread.

You idiots kind of remind me of that homophobic politician who critized a certain lifestyle and then gets caught with his pants down in a men's restroom hitting on another dude.

The moral here is if you hate Amat so much...stay out of our threads.

Oh, and one more thing. I try to use spell check more often these days too.

So you see, I have changed my ways a bit eh ?!

Ha ha ha.

The schedule plays out like this: The 3 Serra League games at the end of the year and the 2 games that play against Mission League teams. Next year will be St. Paul @ The Pit Also have WC, Damien and Diamond Ranch.

They'll probably look to play a Trinity or Sunset League teams if they can't get CO.

Classic

Whew! Man that is going beck a way's eh.

Yes it is true. I have to admit it. I for one, was not happy about the "new" hire over at Amat at the time. I didn’t like it at the time, and to tell you the truth, I was dead set against it.

In fact, I came out more than once and said so.

It was only recently that I came to my senses and realized the error of my ways. (BTW, I do that often you know.....Ha ha ha).

For what it's worth, beating schools like Crespi and Orange Lutheran, has something of a tendency to change peoples minds, I am sure you will agree with that one wont you.

Oh, and one more thing. Thanks for keeping me in your thoughts for such a long time. I am somewhat honored to know that you keep my posts in your “roller deck” for such a long a time as you do.

It brings tears to me ol Irish eyes (and im not even Irish).

Don't you love going back and reading about what posters have blogged?

For example:

Im just looking at this thing strictly as objectively as I can, and I have to say that, in my opinion, this was not the best that they could have done.

Yes, a lot could be said about the fact that the new coach is an alum that was here, when Amat had a winning program. And yes, a lot could be said as to his early success at lower division schools, and for that matter at the strong liklyhood that they will win more games than they lose this, up comming year (due to the softer schedual), however....

A good coach, is a good all of the time, not just every other years or two. A good coach and a good hire will be successful after all the seniors graduate (what's gonna happen when thier all gone eh...). A good coach comes in and hits the floor running and is able to match up against the likes of Crespi and Notre Dame and yes, even against Orange Lutheran right now !!

Tell me the truth here folks, Is this coach going to do all of that ? Even with the fact that there will be an improvement considering the past few years at Amat, can you honestly say that they could have gotten a far better coach with a more impressive resume here ?

Look, im certian this fellow is a great guy, with as big a hart as it gets, but the reality here is that the administration could have gotten a better candidate.

Footbal at Amat is about winning, but it seems to me, that there was far to much empahsis on saving a few bucks, and getting a guy who was "an alum" rather than getting someone who can do the job consistanly, and over the long run, and at EVERY LEVEL.

Im sorry, but I dont agree with this choice. This is not the answer. I hope im wrong, but just look at what happened with the university of Notre Dame receintly, when they relied soley on alums to rebuild thier progam. They did'nt do so good eh.

Good luck coach...you'll need it.

Posted by: Jcaz | February 9, 2008 6:29 PM

OR WHAT ABOUT THIS GEM:

Choose Amat over Los Altos?

Are you crazy? This 2008 year reminds of 2001 season at Los Altos; we had 4 returning starters from a 2000 team that went 14-0. They had a strong sophomore class and a junior QB transfer from yours truly (Bishop Amat). That year I believe, preseason Los Altos was ranked 6th in SGV tribune and Bishop Amat like usual was ranked 2nd. Well that year we ended up losing by a missed field goal against Charter Oak in the Division VII championship game.

That year started another run, Los Altos one consecutive championships 2002-2003.

If you check the records the cycle is about to begin again.

Year in year out Los Altos competes.

Maybe you should transfer to Los Altos before it’s too late.

Just a thought.

Posted by: LA Conq | February 9, 2008 8:07 PM

Would much rather see a game against a Matre Dei, Long Beach Poly, Servite, Oaks Christian, or Tesoro rather then the likes of a Charter Oak or South Hills. Or go out of state. I think the last time that was done was in like '98.

Not sure of the politics of scheduling other Pac 5 schools though. I'm sure it's easier said than done.

People say they dislike the Amat topics so much, yet they continue to come here and post.

It's like the restaurant in New York that Yogi Berra described as

"so crowded no one goes there anymore!"

Panther Pride (D ranch), even though I am sure you did not mean it as a joke, its still kind of funny, because it’s so true.

I remember TJ Simers of the Times once said on a morning radio show that he had with Fred Rogan a while back, that their online spots blogg often received allot of hits when the topics included anything related to the Lakers.

So he once made something of a joke when he said that a headline would receive a number of hits if it read something like: "Kobe comments on World economic summit in France today."

Too funny.

Also, CIF, please just make your point and leave it at that. There is no reason to plagiarize here. I mean when people quote others, why do they have to cut and paste the "entire" freken post?

Just summarize, make your point and get the heck out

If people are suffering from Amat fatigue, why do they continue to participate in Amat discussions.

It's as simple as this: Amat is the nucleus of SGV football because they are our only representative for the Pac-5 elimination tournament. As long as Amat remains in the Pac-5 division, they will continue to monopolize any relevant discussions.

This is a *football* thread - so the talk will be football just like most of the threads. Notice the "Girls basketball tournaments" that featured many SGV schools - NO POSTS. That's a function of the sport... not the school.

By the way... remember last December the day after Christmas when the Lady Lancers took it to the Panthers? Or do you remember October 10, 2009 on FoxSports? We do too.

Best of luck to the Panthers on Friday as you have a chance to solidify the runner-up spot in the SGV.
It would probably be a good idea to post your thoughts on that thread.

Maybe next year you'll earn the "Panther Prospectus"

FWIW,

Amat girls basketball has been to three of the last four STATE championships and gets tremendous support.

Case in point...exactly! No hits on that Amat Girls Basketball thread. So what it tells me is that Amat fan backs only Amat football to the highest degree. The other sports are "whatever"..what is funny about that Amat is your other teams do better in the winning department then your football teams.

I just do not see a need or want for a Amat football breakdown. Your season is over. If you are a amat hard up then there is a Amat Girls basketball thread here go and worship what they are doing, but you cant because you will turn it into a football topic of Amat. EXAMPLE: you know that point guard from Amat is great...answer"yeah I played FOOTBALL with her dad in the 70's" Yes! the 70's.. remember those championships and Haden to Mckay"" blah blah blah blah blah blah. save it for football season Amat honks...your season is over "AGAIN"!.

Fan CIF, or whatever you call yourself,

Amat does not run this paper or write the blog. These topics are posted by the writers at the paper - not any Lancers. Apparently they view the need and the benefit... because it certainly brought you here to respond. Maybe if it bothers you you should post elsewhere. If a topic is here, of course Lancer supporters (and haters like yourself) will respond.

If someone brings up the Lancers on another thread or asks a question (which happens often) of course we'll oblige and answer that question or respond to the remark. That's the purpose of a blog. Maybe you should go post your support for those teams in it on another thread instead of coming onto this thread to ask why this thread exists. Kinda answered your own question then - didn't you?

It kind of reminds me of the time they voted on the Favorite and Least Favorite Announcer... and Howard Cosell won BOTH!! That seems it might be the case here.

hey look at the top of the page, this is the AMAT blog,why berate the posters here talking about Amat football? if you guys had some pull or your favorite( DIV XXX) schools did, they would certainly have their own page, right! so chill, take a Midol or 2 and catch the Field Hockey game, from the parking lot in your moms Oldsmobile, willya

Lets just hope this shuts down the Amat ramblings, because thats all they are. Cant there be one topic where you do not come on and tute off using the word Amat. After the last tick on the clock this weekend and football season finally over for all SGV teams unless one gets invited to play in a bowl which I hardly doubt, Then I can see die hard football fan gearing up for next year bypassing the Basketball and Baseball topics only to start their BS about their upcoming football teams. Give it a rest, football season is closing this weekend. Amat this, amat that, we are the king, we are the d1, we are, we are, we were, we was, we did this, we did that, we rule, etc ,etc, etc. but you know what they have not done squat. They made the playoffs as a at-large played a good game and still went home. End of story, end of season, end of YOUR GREAT AMAT AGAIN. Nothing has change on Fairgrove and Orange same results. CO, Diamond Ranch, Rosemead congrats you have made it good luck to all of you. Amat what are we going on now year 14 with no Championship game appearance.

Posted by: SGV football fan | December 9, 2008 3:46 PM
I agree with this one too. Amat give it a rest already.

First off Amat joe or whatever you call yourself and to All Amat bloggers, this is not the time or the place to bring up Amat football past including this year. Sure you guys had a good year beat some good teams played Poly tough but it is over until next season. At this time the Spotlight is on the other SGV teams, Rosemead, CO and Dranch who are playing for a CIF championship D1 or D100 it does not matter these kids have earned their way into the dance so lets talk about how their achievments and possible rings they may get after this weekend. Amat come on show some class and bring your horn next year and run all of it but until then we have three teams here that should be the talk of the town. Pipe down already with the Lancers. Speaking of talk of the town Is there anywhere in the CO area or Rosemead or Dranch where the stores in business put up congratulations type posters for their HS teams in show of support. I noticed some out by Oaks Christian the other day. Do businesses in the SGV do this type of thing anymore.?

Posted by: Go R-mead, CO and DR. | December 9, 2008 2:13 PM
I really have to agree with this at this time.

Fred, do you or any of the other Trojan honks refer to that school as Southern Cal? ( I do, but only sarcastically)no one, absolutely no one in the Amat familk refers to the school as Bishop! there are a million schools named after a Bishop(Alemany,Montgomery,Conaty et al) but only one school named after a Bishop named Amat, get it right..please you look so......uninformed,uneducated.although I did post nearly the same comment in September, same maybe it's more than that. one last add Leinenkugel Red Field at Kiefer Stadium, has a ring to it!

reality czech,

Go play catch on the freeway!

MOM-tried to explain this before. you're here. 38 posts. "Championship Notebook" - 14 posts-most were Amat topics. "Southeast Final:CO vs DR" EIGHT posts. do the math. Fred's not dumb.

Go post there and help your cause.

I agree with COBRO. Why do you still have a Bishop Breakdown Blog? We are approaching the CIF Championship game and who really cares whats going on at Bishop. Wait until next year to feature them.

TO LA fan,
Wrote:
LOS ALTOS SUCKS.....THEY CAN BARELY BEAT A 1-9 WILSON

Posted by: TO LA fan | December 11, 2008 6:48 AM

You were obviously not at the game...or you are an idiot...most likely both!

LOS ALTOS SUCKS.....THEY CAN BARELY BEAT A 1-9 WILSON

Be careful what you wish for. I believe that next years Amat team will not be as strong as this year’s version.

While I would very much like to see that Oaks Christian game, along with a Long Beach Poly rematch, I think that Amat would be better served to play either of those teams in 2010 rather than in 09.

Another thing, if we were to play Charter Oak next year, I don’t like the idea of playing a big game so early in the season. There are always issues to be ironed out after the first week, and maybe a game such as that, would be better served as the 3rd or 4th game of the year.

Also, we seem to now have at least 6 teams listed on the schedule for next year. We have the 3 Serra league games of course, and the three that were discussed above. So that leaves another 4 games to fill out the calendar.

Because this article spoke of only two weeks being open (week one and four) then that suggests that we already have the other two weeks filled, but not yet named correct?

One more thing. It's somewhat funny that there is so much interest in Oaks Christian all of a sudden? In that Times article, they spoke about the fact that O.C. no longer wanted to play in their own league for football, because of all of the success that they have enjoyed over the last few years. The funny part is that the only other league that is being discussed as a possibility, the Marmonte, doesn’t want them either.

So, because everything seems to be so impractical, I thought that I would have some fun with a new (impractical) realignment, for the CIF for 2010. Here is how I would like to see the new PAC5, taking Oaks Christian and others, into consideration.

So, let's go ahead and put Oaks Christian and St Bonnie in the foothill league (and drop the two bottom feeders, West Ranch and Golden Valley out). Then, let’s move the foothill league to the PAC5 (by replacing the weak Moore league). Lets place Long Beach Poly, and maybe Corona Centennial in the Serra league making us a 6 team league.

If we did that, then wham !, You would then have the makings of the greatest division in the history of prep sports, all in the PAC5.

Now I realize, that it aint gonna happen, and I also know that people would bring up the issue of travel as being a factor, but if that were to happen, it would solve the issue of who would be represented in the State bowl game at the end of the year and, for all practical purposes, it would be so much fun, wouldn’t it?

coming from a team who has steped up and played both powerhouse teams..oaks vs amat would be very cool to watch! WE R DR! WE R DR!

Without a doubt, Amat should target Oaks Christian. It would be nice to see Oak encounter some formidable resistance. Observers who understand high school football recognize Amat's surging prowess. I am not an Amat apologist, but I laugh when I read the comments of locals who attempt to devalue Amat's merit.

How's this for program credibility. I challenge any SGV historian to identify a more impressive monumenal victory for any school than Amat's 1995 conquest over a spectacular Long Beach Poly in the Semi-finals.

Hagerty has thrown it out there, AMAT has an opening week 1 in 09, CO has an opening in week 1 09, do they have the stones to step up? do they remember what happened last time they got uppity and tried to play with the big-boys? old lou thought AMAT was in a down cycle and they were, by AMAT standards and they still got whupped, back to back years, c'mon CO let history repeat itself....btw if I win the lottery, I build AMAT the best facility for football/soccer/track and name it Leinenkugel Red Field@Kiefer Stadium, it'll be Lambeau West!

B.A.,

Easy there. I think you just might be letting it get in your head too. You are reading the posts correct, aren't you?... the name is below the post. Right?

While RC might have a little "edge" the responses are to some posts that are pretty out there.

"r u serious" slams the fact that there is even a blog topic... to which FJR replies "supply and demand" then RC simply stated that the topic already had much more interest than another seemingly, more important topic... essentially saying the same thing as Fred. And surprisingly enough...true.

eagle20 says "... let it go you over recruiting, self-centered..."
and it's pointed out that we don't start the blog topics and that apparently it is interesting enough for eagle20 to respond. That was a rant?

Then some nutcase writes "I Hate You" a million times and it is noted that Amat is, clearly "in his head"

I read something recently from about the Boston Celtics and something like this was said by either Paul Pierce or Kevin Garnett.

"I use it to get in my opponent's head. I use it to frustrate my opponent, sort of like what Larry Bird used to do in the day and Michael (Jordan) did. I use it more as a tactic. It's a strategy I use."

Now it's good to be *nice* but his smack talk in response to some knucklehead does add a little flavor. But if he starts to boast first... I'm right there behind you.

hey, BA who left you in charge of the Opinion Police, so if reality czech, shows his face at an AMAT game or function, you personally are going to tell him to leave? put down the pipe, quit abusing your meds, you sir, please get a life,I'm an Amat grad also and we all don't need to agree,"have a take and don't $uck" so take a Midol, make it 2, extra -strength and calm down, willya!

They should play Los Altos

hahaha-we are SOOOO deep into your head!!!!

Posted by: reality czech | December 10, 2008 6:05 PM

The same can be said for yourself my friend, GOTCHA YOU FEMALE DOG!

thats if even josiah thropay gets the starting job, he's going to have to compete with travis santiago a sophmore. high skilled athlete

B.A.-now THAT was a rant
ie:complain angrily and at length;speak at length in a loud impassioned way; a tirade.

find one of mine. all responses. none "at length". you and "Mr. 14 I Hate You's"-now those are rants

Never has nor never will reality czech represent the true blue Bishop Amat Lancers. Personally, you’ve exhausted me and many others associated with our community for too long now with your rants to the extreme that I finally have to tell you the truth. Please walk away from the computer and develop relationships, exercise, go to night school and get your G.E.D. something, anything but stay off the blog.

If anyone fit the Raider stereotype, you do, and I guarantee that you have no job, a family, or an identity outside of this blog. No need to wonder why we have the reputation we do because after his posts you have to look no further than him. I promise you he never was a real contributing or active member of our family on or off the football field now or before.

Please consider my advice everyone and ignore him because until then you get what you deserve and no one God forbid should have to tolerate him anymore especially us at Bishop Amat but also anyone on this blog. You’re a loser and what we are trying to do is separate ourselves from people like yourself so with that in mind please no one validate him and let’s hope and pray he leaves very soon. I can tell you this much pal, if I personally learn who you are and your at one of our functions I am very politely going to please ask that you leave the property.

Congratulations to everyone in the Valley this year win, lose, or draw on doing your best and never quitting and as an Bishop Amat alumni, parent, and booster may God grant us our best days in spite of reality czech.

eagle20-we don't start the threads-we just get the hits-including yours

Question, since there are so many great teams here in the SGV, which schools have been Nationally Ranked and what years? *hint= USA TODAY SUPER 25

Hey tribune boy quit talking about amat there season is over i don't give a crap about amat.

Did I miss something or this Amat's season over? Damn...let it go you over recruiting, self-centered...you get the point

bishop is so great. did you see them in the 90's? they were amazing. too bad i cant remember the last time they won a playoff game. they r the best in the sgv and they are proud. who cares that they used to be nationally ranked. they are truly champions now

there season is over u dont do this 4 schools like south hills los altos bonita west covina why dont u put aside ur love fro bishop amat and report on more than 1 team

Posted by: r u serious | December 10, 2008 5:19 PM

Let me clue you in, because no one gives a rats a$$ about reading about those schools (no disrespect). Fred has the "Bishop (Amat) Breakdown" 3 weeks after their season is over because he knows it will still stir up more interest than your little wannabe school will ever get and even if they are still playing or not.

hahaha-we are SOOOO deep into your head!!!!

reality czech,

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and bishop amat too!

twice as many different bloggers in two hours than "Southeast: Charter Oak vs. Diamond Ranch" had in two days!

Ever heard of supply and demand?

fred

there season is over u dont do this 4 schools like south hills los altos bonita west covina why dont u put aside ur love fro bishop amat and report on more than 1 team

We know that CO and SH do not have the balls to play Amat, no surprise here. So let's not waste any more time or print space here.

Hagerty, I like to see a game with Upland, La Habra, REV, Miller, Chapparal.

A pre season game with their old nemises Mater Dei, St. Paul or St. John Bosco wouldn't be bad either. Or start a new rivalry with St. Bonnie or Oaks Christian. The bigger the name the better for Amat. We don't back down to no one.

no way charter oak steps up to play Amat again, lou knows Amat is not in a down cycle, as he thought last time and they got whupped by a less than mediocre(by Amat standards)squad both times, look for co, to play some area wanna be and the same goes for sh, they'll take a paas, no stones for them either!

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Take a look at Oct/Nov archives on how the SGV volleyball community kept each other updated on their 1 thread a week. It was a pretty good spot for voleyballers to come ... and it stayed relatively civil !:?)

you got it

Fred,
Thanks for your reply. How about you add a thread asking the locals for feedback, game scores and updates? This will help all us soccer buffs stay in the loop.
Thanks,

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We'll get to soccer, I can't be everywhere, there's way too much going on. We don't have the resources to send people to as many games as we once did. Heck, Stevie R., covered two basketball games yesterday while I worked on football. Doing a Bishop Amat football thread is a no-brainer, people are interested.

A single, pre-league football game vs Oaks would be great and we should make that call. Moving them into the Serra for all sports would not.

As for OG, two locals a year (WC & DR for now) is probably enough and any more would hurt the strength of schedule that helped get us our at-large bill. But at the end of that contract cycling in CO and SH might be fun. Or if CO wins a title, that could be viewed as a good game.

OK Charter Oak and South Hills, whaddya say?

One more thing....why are you doing a Bishop Breakdown when their season ended 3 weeks ago? You trying to stir the pot Freddy?

I for one would love for this to happen. But you know and I know this is out of our hands.

Fred,

When are you going to have some coverage on all the local boy's and girl's Soccer games? We have had some big games already early in the pre-season and you continue to break down AMAT! Give it up already! I thought you are a Soccer guy?

Step up:

Oaks Christian is looking to play tougher opponents. Great article in the Times today reguarding OC wanting to move into a tougher league. Move them into the Serra. The Serra needs one more team. Hags make the call to Westlake and get a game with Oaks C.

OK, All you people talking big.. Time to step up (to Amat) or shut up...