Sunday Tribbin: Coach of the year?

JOE SCHERF;

You took an under size team to a second round playoff berth! And did a outstanding Job!

SGV'S COACH OF THE YEAR!!!

AZTEC PRIDE!

DRanchhhhh, you've got no comeback, because your boys can't pull the trigger in the big game. Now you be being a Pomona school, you think that'd be no problem, but maybe your kids just don't have the heart the DB kids of yester year had. Maybe it's just todays kids, or maybe it's that CO owns you like a rag doll. Either way, YOU GOT NOTHING to this point. At least we had history. YOU GOT NOTHING PUNK. Remember that when you decide to shoot your mouth off again. Cuz i'm just gonna shove that right back down your throat.

Exactly,

Your now Irrelevant!! Your time is up!!!

DRanchhhhh, you still haven't, done jack sh@t! Where did your peeps decide to flash them runner up trophys? In the ladies room? That fits. It suits ya.

you are:

What did you guys do in the 1st 11 years of your schools history? What have you done in 21st century? How about the 90's? Better yet dont respond, becasue you cant. You anti-DR people are ridiculous. I could drill you, but unfortunately the Blog subject has nothing to do with a bunch of "smart-ass dummies" putting a High Schools Athletic Legacy down. Its about our opinions of who the Coach of the Year should be for Football in the CIF, for the year of 2008-2009. Bet you cant recommend your coach? Or hail any coach(s) for this year or last year! Brahma parents are too smart for their own good. By the way, I dont care how smart or intelligent you think your kids are, API scores, grades,etc., It all starts at home with the parents. Duhhhhh!!!

you are:

What did you guys do in the 1st 11 years of your schools history? What have you done in 21st century? How about the 90's? Better yet dont respond, becasue you cant. You anti-DR people are ridiculous. I could drill you, but unfortunately the Blog subject has nothing to do with a bunch of "smart-ass dummies" putting a High Schools Athletic Legacy down. Its about our opinions of who the Coach of the Year should be for Football in the CIF, for the year of 2008-2009. Bet you cant recommend your coach? Or hail any coach(s) for this year or last year! Brahma parents are too smart for their own good. By the way, I dont care how smart or intelligent you think your kids are, API scores, grades,etc., It all starts at home with the parents. Duhhhhh!!!

what's in a name,

Given the context of the posts, it actually was pretty funny because everyone was exchanging Godfather lines after 73 and I (at the exact same time) posted that when the topic has nothing to do with us... for some reason... someone pulls us back in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKR3QU3dB0M

followed by some smart ass saying that Amat was "sleeping with the fishes".. and it went downhill from there with posts by Fredo, Sonny, Tom Hagen , Luca Brasi, and even Vincent Mancini (Sonny's illegitimate son from the opening scene in GF I)

Here was the quote:
Johnny Fontane never gets that movie. That part is perfect for him, it'll make him a big star, and I'm gonna run him out of the business - and let me tell you why: Johnny Fontane ruined one of Woltz International's most valuable proteges. For three years we had her under contract - singing lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. I was gonna make her a big star. And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, and that it's not all dollars and cents: She was beautiful; she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I've ever had, and I've had it all over the world. And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice and guinea charm, and she runs off. She threw it all away just to make me look ridiculous! And a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous! No you get the hell out of here. And you tell that gumba that if he wants to try any rough stuff that I ain't no band leader. Yeah, I heard that story."

... and remember Woltz woke up to find the decapitated head of his prized stud horse in his bed with him. He cast Fontane in the part.

just a little diversion from the typical bashing that goes on!:?)

Trojan Man. How many times did you see Charter Oak play? How many times did you see Diamond Ranch play? How many times did you see Azusa play last year and this year? How many times did you see Bonita play? How about San Dimas? Just asking?

Well I NEVER saw Azusa , DR & Charter Oak or Bonita Fact is I was at ALL the RHS games with the exception of Monrovia & Harvrad Westlake .I just state my opinion , what is with the HOMERVILLE ? I have HAD IT with you fing BLOG BULLIES ! Get a life! See ya all next fall ...

TM

"Charter Oak never gets that game it would make them a big star" "And here comes Joshua Thropay with his olive oil arm and Monrovia Charm and he makes us look ridiculous, we had him in Passing lession,running lessions,weight training lessons,, and let me go further, he was one the best QB we ever had and we have had them all over the SGV... and he threw it all away to make us look ridiculous" and a team like us cannot afford to look ridiculous "Now you get the hell out of here... and you tell coach Farr if he tries any rough stuff I aint no band leader, yeah I heard that story"

Posted by: Woltz Pictures | December 10, 2008 4:47 PM

This was too funny. This guy on crack or something???was this a actual line in the Godfather?

Tropay is the real deal and will step up , fill in as Allen leaves. Big Lou looking forward to this fresh tall lean QB. I watched him throwing and has a great arm and vision.
Chargers lose nothing losing Allen to grauation. Coming in behind a good line and two great runnig backs Chargers will likely repeat. Another solid runnig attack wit a good passing attack, here we go again.
With D line anchored by #99 Clapper 6'4, 275 look out. Loss of Williams, Peri and Dunbar will take some tweaking but remember Big Lou has great coaching staff and ould prevail.
OVER AND OUT>

Some people say Hagerty , ok he did well. He took a team that wasnt picked to do very well and stuck around with every oppent. But come on. I hate doing this but how can Farrar NOT GET IT. He won CIF his TIE Rancho .... Beat Osos that Beat Amat... WON CIF . What more do you want from a coach. He took talent from a tri-city area with basicly leftovers and took them and got each one a RING. Amat took it to Orange Lutheran and i was glad to see those crazy protestants get put in their place. But come on. Farrar has done everything a coach plans on doing. Beat Rival, Win League, Make Playoffs, Get A Ring, Go Undefeated. He did all of that. Fredo You ARE CRAZY if you pick Hagerty

DRanchhhhhh, What sports did you actually WIN a CIF title in again? Girls Hoops, Girls Track and Field? In eleven years of snagging "DB's" and raiding the Pomona district of their best athletes, you have won zero boys titles? So you have no past, and no present (except for choking under the bright lights), but you have this glowing future? Did you forget your steal in the same the league with CO? Did you forget they own you? You must a bird brain memory.

Joe Amat see we agree.

Thropay made a huge mistake leaving the best QB coach there is in these parts in Rix. SH's Deen has made tremendous strides from the first time I saw hime 3 years ago.

Another thing that might hurt Thropay is 3 schools in two years. That can't be good, plus I hear CO has a stud already there. Where' is Thropay going next? Probabbly tight end like the other kid at SH that went to St Paul and thought..."Great!... They NEED me!"

Opps someone else beat him out and lead SP to a Championship. Hear he's a TE now and finally gave up on QBing. What a waste he was fantastic from what I saw.

Next year everyone will be ready for Bishop Amat. I saw Alberico at a Best Buy tonight. A lot smaller than he plays for sure. I was taller and bigger but I saw him play and he's Amat tough. Must have excellent technique. Leaving Damien was the best thing for him. Amat is lucky to have such a fine young man.

That's what people don't understand. Amat coaches their players and works them out on a different level. What's he 5'9" maybe 187 playing DE? Incredible ...just incredible. Going up against Div 1 monsters. Got to get a copy of the Poly and Crespi games. How'd he do?

Best of luck Joe. Next year should be a blast all over the San Gabriel Valley. this weekend will be football heaven!

Baite and Switch along with others.

How can you say that you have “said it before” when you don’t post with the same name twice?

It's hard to get a feel of anyone’s position when they are constantly "drive-by-ing"

Perhaps, you’re point could be better served if you stuck to consistent moniker, that way folks would know that it’s you who posted something.

George, you and I may both know the 1st scenario is ridiculous... but many bloggers don't.

The Pac5 is as big "an ocean" as there is. That's where we get to swim. Not the "small pond of the SGV that you speak of.

We see ourself as the second scenario - no question about it. That's what I've been saying all year... no reason to change now.

DBAR DAD,

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Moving Forward,

So Fred, you have us in here going at each other, Let me ask you, Who are your top 3 choices?? I am just curious. Also how did you come to your conclusions? (BTW, not sure who suggested it, but the Heisman Finalists Idea is King)

Curious, I think Bishop won. Not sure of the score though?

Joe the first one is ridiculous and you know it. Amat was never dead just poorly coached.

Amat is a big fish in a very lttle pond. And this you know as well.

So let's decide to avoid trees and wish all the coache sthe best.

The real question is how do you see yourself. "Up and coming"...would only apply to "your" peers or is it "back from the dead" again judged specifically by "you"r peers.

Using any other criteria is both useless and sligtly self serving.

I got the scoop on Coach of the Year and you'll like it.

And my sources are never wrong.

Watch out for that tree!

Here's the deal... everyone here CANNOT have it both ways. So let's decide which it is.

Is Amat over the hill, living in the past, will never compete again because of the *parity* in the SGV with all these other good and comparable programs that players can now choose from, and is now "just another school" trying to earn a "ranking" on a prep writers list?

OR, as you say, is Amat the BEST in the valley, at a completely different level, no contest, expected to beat all the teams in these "lower divisions" in the SGV because we get all the best players and are not compared to teams in our region but now are ONLY judged by how we compete against the best teams in the best division in the NATION (like LBP, OLu, ND, etc)????

Talk about "Bait and Switch". I know what I know... but I'm good with either answer... really!

Just decide. One or the other. We'll pick up the discussion from there.

Anyone know who won the winterball baseball championship the other day between San Dimas and Bishop Amat. I heard they were suppose to have played.

DBAR DAD stop embarssing yourself. You school hasn't done squat in how long?

Stop living in the past.

Joe this time you're in the forest and can't see the trees.

You only prove my point.

Yes Amat is suppose to compete at that level. Verti let you down. tHe excuse that the bloggers are you point of refrence,as "In suppose to go 0-3 and whatever" is lame oh Joe.

We're talking here Joe. Amat is always suppose to compete with TOP TEIR TEAMS in their class of program.

Step back and tell me 3 of those wins weren't give me's and recruiting only games.

I tried of this line of thinking.

Amat did spectacular this year. There I said it. But it doesn't buy my vote. IF angain with the IF...Hags did it himself than maybe...but compare staffs and it would have been a FAILURE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS to match Verti's record without playing Carson, Hart and St. Francis.

Why is Hags getting COY credit for the staff he has?

He Joe I just bumped into a tree and this is all a dream. Let me sleep on this.

It is quite funny reading the many posts that state AMAT did what they were suppose to do this past season. The truth is we did not do what we were suppose to do. If you can recall we were suppose to go 3-7 or worse and not have a chance in hell in league and go 0-3 . Well we went 7-3 and came in third in our league, probably one of the toughest leagues in CIF went to the first round of the playoff and came within 1 turnover of beating LBP . There are very good arguments for all the coaches in the valley but for me it is Hags and he should not be over looked for the fact that AMAT did what they were suppose to do. It is just not true. He brought back pride and tradition to a program that was knocked on its ass the past few years and everyone associated with the program bought into what he was trying to do to right the ship for a very successful year and years to come. Maybe next year we accomplish what AMAT is suppose to do and bring the PAC-5 ,D-1 title home to the SGV where it belongs. On another note thanks to all the SGV teams for a wonderful season and also a big thanks to Fred and Steve for putting up with all of our nonsense thru out the season because if it wasn't for them and the Trib we would not have an outlet for all of this. By the way I looked at the Times Saturday to see what they had to say on the CO - DR game and not one word.They jump right over the SGV and went out to the IE and mentioned that game . I guess we should all renew or subscribe to the Trib to make sure we keep it alive because without it we have no coverage of our valley.

DRancccchchchchchch! Love it. "Your comments deserver no response" and then you go on to respond. What an idiot. Hell, you had the same record we did before the playoffs started! You will forever be the school in that you send Diamond Bar kids to if athletics is more important than academics. Such emotion and venom. I wish we could go back to the early part of the season and read the posts by DRanch fans that were blasting coach Roddy. You're number two, you're number two..Get used to it. Said the Diamond Bar graduate to the Diamond Ranch graduate, "Yes I want cheese on the cheesburger I ordered!"

im going 24-20 im just not sure who my winner is joe haha

and (time to re-align) correction charter oak WAS big upfront they are only returning 3 linemen on both sides of the ball

thats why at a school like co you cant get crazy with the schedule these great teams only come around about once every 6 or 7 years

could anyone imagine if co upgraded to an all pac 5 non leauge sched with 3 linemen in the program right now?

now if santa happends to drop off a few linemen this year then thats a diff story

I strongly believe that a good team with great coaching can compete with a great team with average coaching; Bishop Amat vs. Long Beach Poly, Bishop Amat vs. OL. The results this year will be huge in recruiting the next couple of years. I can easly see this BA team competing for the state championship in a year or two.

Everyone reminds us that we didn't make the playoffs during DiFioris final two years either. That's 4 years in your book.

Azusa was a playoff team a year ago. Losing mentality? On the upswing.

IF we're going to play the "IF" game... If Hagerty is the coach:

Before West Covina they played Hart-Hagerty beats them beats them.

Before Damien they played Rancho. Hagerty beats them too.
(BTW-Damien is now a "lower level team" ? More boys - same resources - same rules... I'm just sayin")

Before Diamond Ranch they played Carson. Hagerty beats them.

Hagert beats St. Paul too... in regulation!

Before Chaminade they played Alemany. Hagerty beats them.

Hagerty (and staff) beat OLu and Crespi this year - maybe they do a year ago too. How would THAT have shaken up the Pac5

More importantly IF Hagerty (and staff) is the coach Wells doesn't get in trouble, McBride stays, maybe Adams grows up and realizes his potential, and who knows how many others develop and how many others transfer in or enroll as freshmen.

But you can't play IF. IF is not a fact. The fact is that Amat played 2 teams that were in CIF finals and 3 others that were in semifinals. The FACTS are that Amat finished the year as MaxPreps AND Calpreps #33 team in the STATE with the FOURTH toughest schedule of teams in the Top 50. And they played #'s 2 & 3. Tougher schedule than Notre Dame, tougher than Mater Dei, Tougher than DE LA SALLE! BTW-is anyone downplaying Mater Dei's season because THEY had 4 losses?

Did you say *scheduled DOWN*?

charter oak should replace diamond bar in the sierra league immediately. they are huge up front, fast and getting the best "speed" players from west of the 605.

south hills should replace chino in the sierra league immediately. they have the coaching to compete, and the logistics work in everyone's favor.

both charter oak and south hills would compete well across the board in all boys and girls sports. baseball, softball, swimming, soccer, basketball, ect.

seems workable. anyone?

Trojan Man. How many times did you see Charter Oak play? How many times did you see Diamond Ranch play? How many times did you see Azusa play last year and this year? How many times did you see Bonita play? How about San Dimas? Just asking?

Fred, your paper has no clue, no class.......way to NOT report the State HS Football bowl games this weekend, looks like COs cupcake schedule came back to bit them in the as, oh well at least the sgv has a "champion" to crow about in the watered down all-sgv D7..I mean somebody had to win it, right? by the way De La Salle and Centennial will be a war and the winner s/b number 1 in the state!

Hart was replaced with West Covina. Verti beats them.

Rancho was replaced with Damien. Verti beats them.

Carson was replaced with Diamond Ranch. Verti loses to them.

St. Paul was replaced with St. Francis. Well Vert did beat them.

Alemany was replaced with Chaminade. Verti beats them.

The diffrence this year is that Hags scheduled down. Saved his players from injuy and earned their confidence early. didn't the Amat running back

The big wins were extremely special. So based on two surprise wins and a surpirse good showing against Poly or less that 30% of your schedule Hagerty is the obvious choice. 4 of your 7 wins were against lower level teams Amat is suppose to beat. Changing a losing mentality that was only in effect for two years is NOT an accomplishment. On that basis the Azusa coach wins easily. Sherf changed a losing mentality that was going on 30 years. Amat's fall from grace was only two. Joe you've often mentioned the big wins against eventual CIF Champions Loyola nad others before verti came on.

Ypu sound like some recent Republican hacks who tried to blame the financial crisis on the 12 month old Democratic lead Congress. And that didn't fly either.

I'm sure you dazzle me again.

My vote has to go to Farrar.
If a vote could go for an assistant it would be for Marc Paramo. What he did @ RHS this year was AWESOME! I truly believe had the RHS offense been called a little different we would have been celebrating a CIF Championship!Then of course if my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle, Congrats to ALL SGV teams on a GREAT season , lots of memories.

See ya all in the fall...

FIGHT ON
TM

Got to be Hagerty. Way to turn a program around with promise for the upcoming years.

breaking news,

28-17... Lancers.

A bit closer than the last couple times we played the Chargers. They have a pretty special SGV group of players and have become the public "school of choice" for players not pleased with their local option that put them over the top. Particularly west of the 605. They have clearly taken advantage of some down years at Amat and it will be interesting to see if that continues as the Lancers improve.

For now, Congratulations goes to Charter Oak on the divisional championship. This would have been a good year to be able to match up with the OC and see where they fit. I guess we'll never know. Allen is a special leader, Muema and Golden could play for anybody (and both return-YIKES! for the Miramonte), and I'm especially happy for Tyler and the Perri family.

It's a shame the division gets so little respect that the LA Times does not even cover their championship game. The players and coaches know what they've accomplished - it's too bad others outside the little SGV couldn't read about it too. Another advantage of being a Lancer. But the Chargers proved to me that they clearly earned the spot of #2 in the SGV with their performance vs Diamond Ranch, another tough little SGV team that sure gave us fits.

And BTW- to your statement "if bishop amat wouldnt of been so down the last few years this year wouldnt of been made out as so special"

But they were... so it was!

DBar SOB Pop,

Your comments warrant no response. There is that weak emotion of fear again. "Jealous"....Thats a female trait. So your whole little "thought I said something" post deserves no explanation, follow-up nor response. (PERIOD). The real bloggers here dont post comments about jealousy and fear of other teams. You are obviously a newb and frankly you need to write, revise, type, re-read, edit and then post. You just made a complete ass of yourself and the people who have children ad DBar High. You sound like one of those Pop Warner parents who sent their kid to DR, got no run, and went back to Diamond Bar High. Grow some cahunas and stop being an obvious hater of glory and hard work!! That was almost as bad a post as something Reality Czech would write. At least he doesnt covet what we have at DR and is able to hold his own weight in his own little weird way!!

South DBar, if you know Layton, you know he did not personally have anything to do with last year. Sermons grew up on our side and still lives there. He ran track before he played football at DR. Layton was told he was cleared as well as the track coach. Layton is just to classy to let his former AD take the blame, so he has been taking the punishment. We sat in the meeting with the principal and AD last year and do not blame Layton at all. He did his job teaching our students and coaching our teams. Layton never pointed the finger but moved on with class. Don't blame for his ex-AD's mistake. And so you know, it was not a conscious effort it simply was a lack of paperwork. Again, not Layton's responsibility.

Hagerty. Easy call.

Big Lou is coach of the year. Yes he took a talented football team, played a soft schedule...so what? He won a championship. Sometimes it's harder to win when you're supposed too, right USC? The only blemish on the schedule wins their CIF championship too. DRanch and coach Layton. Uh, I don't think so! Roddy's a great guy and I believe in my heart he cares deeply for his players. He does all of the little things that the DBar coaches do not. He shows up to Pop Warner games. He recruits without being overt about it. He works his ass off making sure that he and his team are known in the surrounding areas. But don't keep giving me the poor little DRanch crap. That was a very loaded and talented team. They beat no one with a winning record before CIF. Lucky they are in a soft league or they don't make the playoffs. They beat Muir (racist comment alert) who may have been the most poorly coached team I have ever seen. No discipline (fifteen yard penalty for throwing a ball into the end zone after picking up a dead ball and running with it. this happened at a crucial point in a scoreless game. The player wasn't even taken out of the game, no special teams (couldn't even get a punt off. After second try, Muir went for it on fourth down inside their own 40 four times) no conditioning and no adjustments. I think that South Hills was their big victory. CO owned them ot once but twice this year. According to posters, DRanch will have severasl D1 scholarships and several other "lesser" scholarships this year. They were ranked #3 in their conference to start the season (did I read division 7!). So they lost to a lot of great teams. If they had beat some of them, then Roddy would have a shot at coach of the year. Here at DBar we're happy/jealous of your success but I know we'll never have to fofeit games for cheating.

wow! the sgv juggernaut is shut out AGAIN when it comes to being in the state payoffs, maybe CO should play and beat SOMEBODY and all the other wannabes out there too

if bishop amat wouldnt of been so down the last few years this year wouldnt of been made out as so special

joe whats your final score if bishop and co play at mt sac

dont get defensive and belidle my name lets just talk football dude

Being a charter oak fan everyone is going to expect for me to say Farrar for coach of the year. But my nomination goes to coach Roddy Layton from diamond ranch. He is a class act period! i couldn't even imagine being 1-6 and still figthing every week and still going to the championship! Everyone pretty much knew co was going to be good this year so it wasn't really a surpirse to any of us that we won the title.

Being a charter oak fan everyone is going to expect for me to say Farrar for coach of the year. But my nomination goes to coach Roddy Layton from diamond ranch. He is a class act period! i couldn't even imagine being 1-6 and still figthing every week and still going to the championship! Everyone pretty much knew co was going to be good this year so it wasn't really a surpirse to any of us that we won the title.

I can always tell who has met and who hasn't met coach Layton. Anyone who has sat and talked to him or listened to his speeches knows he is destined to be great. He is passionate about not only teaching/coaching but also about getting players into college. He offers up names from other schools and has no issues pointing a recruiter to another school to find talent. I am always amazed to watch him interact with his players and the other teams before and after the games. I saw him hamming it up with CO coaches before the game and seen him hug Chris Allen after the game. At Amat he was welcomed as one of our own. Half of our fans new who he was and appreciated him for his talent, dedication and passion. Our staff and him gave nothing hugs before and after the game and he carries himself like a dignified celebrity. Not many HS coaches walk around town and have people know who they are. He is always quick to smile and strike up a conversation. He is honest with his answers and is a fan first. Ask the Amat coaches what they thought of Layton and it will be nothing but praise. He is trying to get his school and his players to the next level. Fred if you need to make the top ten list of teams? Call Layton because he played them all. Want to know who should be Player of the Year call Layton because he probably had to defend him. Fred you want to know who should be Coach of the Year Call Layton. Is Layton the best coach in the Valley I don't think so but I do know people who meet him, talk with him, I mean really sit and talk with him, will find he is as intriguing of a person that you will meet.

If there was no history, how was there a culture to be changed? Coach of the Year, Hagerty or Farrar. 1 took a team expected to do nothing to the Pac-5 playoffs and represented itself well and the other won a championship. Close, but would probably give it to Hagerty. Charter Oak was impressive though, even though they play bums! But a championship is a championship and though I've said some stuff about Charter Oak, it is a good team this year. The coach still looks like a greek pimp though.

As if it matters, the voting for COTY which was part of the all area extravaganzo posted below had something like 3 dozen takers. (With luck we can vote on this a half dozen more times before next season.) The results (loose count, excuse the Florida type chad hangers):

Hagerty 16 ½
Layton 13
Scherf 8 ½
Farrar 2 ½
Koffler 1/2

(I gave a half vote for everyone, (like me), who mentioned more than one coach in his list.)

I still like Hag's best and while (I think) I was the only guy to vote for Matt Koffler, I like Layton for consideration too.

As much respect as I have for the Farrar machine, I would have been more impressed had the C O run been made in Division 5. They are, as I've maintained for the last three seasons, men playing in a boy's division. The worst part of that is that it takes a title, (if that), to get the respect players like Perri, Williams, Allen and Muema (and others) deserve.

Give the boys the stage they deserve Coach, it's in your power.

Last year Layton was teacher of the year and was the head coach for the softball team that also went to the playoffs. Layton also brought in recruiters sometimes four or five at a time daily. He wisely kept Sermons from making a verbal too early to showcase his other players. Our players must wear dress pants and a team polo on Thursdays and suit and ties on Friday's. He came to a school with no history and has changed the culture. That is hard to do. You want evidence in what he has done read all the blogs. Layton and DR are always mentioned, good or bad, people talk about him and his players. Was this true before he came?

I have to be unbiased here. I know that he probably wont win, but if a coaches criteria is getting the most out of their talent, then coach Maggiore at WC should at least get consideration. Not only did they make it to the semis, but they also shared the league title. They were not very talented (exception Ricky Johnson and Cid). But that was it,2 decent players. They had a young below average Soph QB, who will be better next year. Maggiore out coached South Hills (who had more talent than WC). Diamond Ranch had too much talent for WC ending their journey. When WC played Amat, they were definetly well coached, they just didn't have the horses to keep up with the big blue.
I would sayin order:
-Farrar
-Hagerty
-Maggiore
-Layton

Three coaches should be considered for the COY. Like the Heisman 3 are worthy and it is a close race. The three are (in no particular order) Farrar, Haggert, and Layton.
Farrar maintained excellence in a well established program. His teams continue to make deep runs in the playoffs and did not lose a game all season. His school has an opened enrollment and he wisely brings in the finest athletes Duarte, Monrovia and Pasadena can offer. His staff is consistent year after year and has the administration and boosters to back him up. He coached, in my opinion the Player of the Year in Chris Allen and won a CIF Title. He is a legend in the SGV and proved Friday he was not yet ready to pass the torch. Big Lou maintained Greatness.
Haggerty restore Bishop Amat. Haggerty by far has the deepest pockets when it comes to hiring a staff and he hired the RIGHT staff. A staff of local All Stars who are Alumn that restored Tradition. He is unlimited in recruiting and has the best boosters in the Valley. Amat beat OLU and nearly beat Poly. Haggerty restored Amat.
Layton built a program from his own hands. Limited in resources and working with a clueless administration Layton has put DR on the map. Criticized for a tough preseason he was able to turn it around and take his team to the CIF Championship. Without a doubt the Coach of the Future, Layton has an aura about him that attracts players, recruiters and yes even media. Took a bunch of players and willed them into believing they could be CIF Champs. Layton did the most with the least.
Fred you have a tough decision to make, but all three have a right to be nominated.

***Breaking News***

Off the subject for a minute!!!

MT.SAC FOOTBALL TEAM,

Absolutely the most disrespectful, low-down S.O.B.'s on the planet. Just so you all know, their players ravaged our kids bags and personal belongings while we played against CO. If you guys have any kind of Coach or respect for your school, you would at the least apologize. 16 Cell phones over 320.00 cash, 4 Ipods and 2 pairs of shoes came up missing as we returned to DR that Night.
What a poor group!!!

breaking wind and others,

Be careful what you say. Words have a way to come back and haunt you. You've been ragging on Amat for some time now... but now I hear that, even with our schedule, 7 wins should happen automatically -regardless of the coach! "The *best program in the valley*?" Changing your tune? That's good.

So which is it? History? Or back on top of the SGV? Do we suck... or should we automatically be expected to beat teams like OLu and Crespi? Are we "living in the past" or should we outscore the 4 SGV teams on our schedule 134-49 because we are THAT much better, as we were a few years ago when we took down , CO, GHS, and DHS. You need to decide. Are we that on par with the best teams in the country that we are now back to the point that it's no surprise to take the best team in the state, and maybe the nation, right down to the wire?

If that's the case ranking the valley should be no contest... or the coach did a great job? Or both?

Is it one or the other? Or both? But be careful what you say... I'll remind you later.

Fred,

From Rio Hondo Prep you can see the lights of Arroyo High and many of their students are in the Tribune area. If Rosemead is a dual coverage school, why wouldn't Rio Hondo Prep?

Since RHP is currently only a PSN area school, Miguel should have covered that game (RHP vs Riverside Christian) and relied on your reports for Rosemead and Paraclete.

It would have been nice for the Trib to put a blurb in about their title game, but the PSN should have had a above the fold and pic in their paper.

Even the Riverside paper, with at least one other of their area schools put a video on their website.

I think the San Gabriel Valley Newspapers, or whatever they are called now, really slighted RHP's 12 CIF Football title and fourth this decade.

correction on the farrar comment. CO didnt win every game but came close with the tie vs Rancho.

Coach of the year should come down to couple of criteria.
1. Coach who gets the most out of the least amount of talent.
2. Coaches who win championships
3. Coaches who help turn around a school.

All of the coaches under consideration all fit the criteria so picking one is difficult. Also all 3 of those criteria are interchangeable. Scherf, Farrar, Hags and Layton are my top 4. Here is my ranking.

1. Farrar: Hard to argue with success. Yes CO did have a soft schedule but they did win every game and beat DR twice in the same season which is difficult to do. Plus their only blemish was a tie against Rancho who also win a title.
2. Hagerty. Did a great job turing around the Amat program but its hard to give someone COY who has 4 losses even if those losses are against quality teams.
3.Scherf. Who would ever think an Azusa coach would be considered for the coach of the year, but hes done a great job the last two seasons.
4.Layton. Has to be given a lot of credit for the Ranch's turn around but even Layton admitted it was his assistants getting more comfortable with each other which helped the ranch improve each week. Plus he deserves props for scheduling up.

All of these coaches are deserving of the award but only one can get it. It's gotta be Farrar. Hard to argue with success.

How does CIF choose Long Beach Poly vs Grant in the State Championship but not De La Salle. This could of been a very great match up.

If not Hags can we submit Nieto as a write in candidate.

i would hope all coaches in this valley are doing the things that hags is im sure its not the case but 80% are in the same boat

poy-best player on the best tean

coy-best coach on the best team

dont reward the guy for having a good year at the best program in the valley, you have to actually make an effort to mess that one up

What Hagerty did behind the scenes is what was truly special about what he was able to bring back to Amat. A win-loss record is the easiest standard by which to measure success but not always the most appropriate. The class, discipline and character Hagerty fostered (even sitting our quarterback for the first half of the game against Notre Dame!) and the little things that Hagerty restored to Amat (i.e. captains holding hands going out on the field, the boys knowing and singing the alma mater, taking academics seriously, community building retreat, etc.) is what really makes Hagerty deserving. He and his coaching staff helped bring back a sense of family and community that hasn't been as present for Amat football in recent years past. Our season was big, yes; but what Hagerty and his staff did for the players and for their families behind the scenes was even bigger. He brought back some wins, but he also brought back a lot more for Amat... I'm not sure by what metric the coach of the year is chosen, but Hagerty is deserving on several different levels.

bishop amat a suprise this year?

whats the valley comin to!

Of the real candidates, ask yourself which would have surprised you most in August? Read the facts. Be honest.

Charter Oak, preseason #2 following the run of their last two years (finalists and semi-finalists) finally winning the Southeast title ?

Azusa, a playoff team a year ago, winning 9 regular season games against NO teams with winning records (composite 24-69) and winning a playoff game? Against Covina?

Diamond Ranch, 7-3 on the field a year ago (only losing to Edison, Oaks Christian, and CO) as the preseason #3 team in the watered down Southeast (no more OC to contend with) reaching the finals?

Amat, after a 3-7 season in which players were transferring OUT in droves and being reminded on a regular basis on this blog that they hadn't made the playoffs since 2004 & were DONE and history, under a new coach rebounding by making the playoffs and beating OLu, Crespi, and taking the Pac-5 champions and SoCal Open Division State representative to the final minutes with a lead.

As for a championship guaranteeing COY, I remember a few years back in basketball Amat's coach, Ray Lokar, winning the school's first CIF title in school history, the only one in the valley, and STILL the last major division boys basketball championship in the SGV - and Rowlands coach was named COY for "turning around" the Raiders... even though they lost early in the playoffs. I must say... I disagreed and a title is the *ultimate achievement*, but the "championship precedent" clearly was set there. I believe the previous year Glendora won the only SGV championship with no real stars, and LeDuc was not the COY.

For those that argue the Lancers had talent a year ago are just "doing what they should be doing" ... well if they didn't recently, and the only difference is, yes, coaching. So which is it? Some say there was a crew of great assistant coaches. Yes, and it the Head coaches job is to assemble that staff AND ensure they are all working together on the same page, eliminating the ego problems that could arise. Some also come here and say that CO has a great staff. Agreed.

All these coaches did a great job. Some not mentioned did great ones too. Sometimes you don't have horses or the ball doesn't bounce your way. That doesn't mean they didn't do a great job too. But who did MORE than was expected going into the year? That's the coach that deserves the honor.

a 7 win coach at bishop amat gets coach of the year?

traaavesty

i would hope everyones standards are a little higher

7 wins at bishop amat is kinda like brushing your teeth in the morning...it should just happen

dont give this guy COY give the last few guys worst COY

Is co really losing that many lineman. my son is capable of playing at the next level given the proper guidance.

Well congrats CO you guys got it done, but I dont think big Lou is coach of the year. His team had a great senior class and no injuries, hands down goes to BA coach, and STAFF!!!! what a remarkable turn around.

Lets give Farar a little more credit here!

He loose 30+ seniors to start his year! Should have been a rebuilding year. He coaches the young talent he has and goes undefeated!
Now that's a Coach of the Year!

Beep Beep Dan

Its an accolade that contributes to this Layton's ability to Teach. Tell me, Whats the difference between coaching and teaching?? Tell me, How do the 2 coincide with one another?

Can you explain this?? If you can you will then figure out why I brought this accolade of T.O.Y. up!!

reality czech,

I have never seen such an ANGRY person? Why are you always so HOSTILE towards everyone? Tis the season to be merry brother so please either be a nice person or just go find the closet bridge and stop debating and jump!

Diamond Ranch just lost a C.I.F. Championship game and our grieving a loss and at the same time proud of their head football coach. Please leave them and everyone else alone. Remember there is always somebody bigger than you and hopefully that person someday soon finds you and..!

DRanchhhh -here's a reality taht I'll break down for you. in your post proclaiming Layton COY, you said"man this is his award by far. O, did i mention he was teacher of the year a year ago?"
I replied, "Verti was Amat's Teacher of the year his last season too."
Obviously - Teacher of the Year and COACH of the Year are NOT related-as you implied. Get it?

Wrong Again
Yes he does live in PUSD.I know that for a fact because my son went to elementary school with him as well as junior high.All the good athletes over the years came from north Diamond Bar to play at Diamond Bar High until DR was built.

Truth, Reality all of these guys who post under these serious handles:

Truth and Reality is that neither of you know nothing of Roddy Layton except his record over the last 2 years. Your "Truths", "Facts" are 1 dimensional and have not bearing on peoples opinions. You all sound like the Republicans during the Presidential election. (BTW I am Republican.....

"He is about to win so lets try to tear him down before THAT MAN gets into office"

You males are funny!!

Corona has had a crush on the DR crew ever since he got ran from Damien. DR had an impressive 3 game winning streak against those first 3 Div 7 opponents, then got shown the door by a superior coach and team. Layton has piloted the Panthers to 14 losses over the last two years. 14! Under his guidance. WTF?

see-what was your point? get off the fence and give us an opinion-that said nothing?

I think the Coach of the year should go to the coach who did the best job to get a team together and got them some where. It does not matter if they played schools that are not that great. For example Azusa played schools at their level and did a good job. Amat played schools at their level and did a good job but, just because Amat played tougher competition does not mean you forget about the Azusa coach. Amat is suppose to play schools like LB Poly and compete with them as Azusa is suppose to play teams like Covina and compete. It is the coaches job to get them ready to compete and win. The coach of the year is that guy that gets that group of kids and makes them a team. Winning is important but it does not mean who the Coach of the year goes 2. If Amat played schools Azusa played and won them all does that make their coach coach of the year? No. Just some thoughts and the teams used are just examples no favorites.

Thank you Fred for your comment...I really appreciate you saying that about RHP's coaching staff and their team...

Frank Corona,

I still felt a few sniffles there with the, what if part of your story, and I noticed that your still not posting with your name !! The bigger question though is, why have you been jumping on the D ranch band wagon lately? Are you not suppose to be, a Damien guy ? What gives ?

Sorry your feelings are hurt RH Prep fan, I meant the lone Tribune-area team. What the Kares did is a huge accomplishment too, Drain and his staff are wizards, it's the best small school factory in the Valley.

Fred,
I would like to hear your comment on the RHP / Riverside game? You do remember RHP..when you worked at the Pasadena Star News? I have to agree with Michael Douglas..Rio Hondo should have been mentioned in the Tribune..congrats to CO..BUT they were not the "lone champions in the San Gabriel Valley" Rio Hondo Prep played and won the 2008 CIF Title..CONGRATULATIONS!!!

This one is easy...

Coach Hagerty and his entire supporting staff @ Bishop Amat.

Seriously, it's not even close.

My Friend,

I know you've become a huge Roddy fan, and I respect that. I think Layton does a pretty good job too. I'd like to discuss it more but no time... maybe later. But let me ask you this. You say that Diamond Ranch and Layton overachieved and Amat did what they were supposed to do.

In the pre-season poll Diamond Ranch was the #3 ranked team in the Southeast - behind South Hills and CO. Is it really THAT much of an overachievement for the #3 team to be in the finals? Where was Amat projected in the preseason? People here ranged from 0-10 to an optimistic 5-5 and no playoffs.

If at that point someone told you they'd be playing CO it would NOT have been a surprise at all. A preseason #3 ranked team certainly isn't an "underdog" and "the story of the year".

What if, at that time, someone had told you that the 3-7 Lancers from last year would beat the preseason #2 team (OLu), the preseason #3 team (Crespi) and then lose in the playoffs to the preseason #1 team (LBP) that had just opened their year by runnnig all over preseason #1 in the nation Miami Northwestern. Losing that game to Poly on a 4th down play with a lead and under 2 minutes to go is much more impressing than anything that happened in the valley all year. Scott French, the Trib write covering the game all but said so,

Sp.... "Step back and ask yourself as former football players, former coaches and current players or parents of players this simple question." Which of those two scenarios would have been more believable in the preseason? " #3 DR in the finals or Amat accomplishing any of those things. HONESTLY answer THAT question.... and you're right - this is not a difficult decision.

wrong again,

actually that kid DOES live in the pusd area. if you'd like to prove me wrong I'd want to hear it.

lets be honest,
i agree with you, layton knowingly knew that scheduale would be tough and thats what he was aiming for. you dont get better until you play the best, and the results proved it. yeah dr didnt win the finals but no one would have thought they would get this far.

as for coy layton should be first choice, but i would also have to give props to big lou, coach is determination and heart and i'd be happy if one of them got coy.

That kid does not live in the PUSD, he's supposed to go to Diamond Bar HS. Plus, Layton didn't get him a scholarship. The kids name says it all. He could of got a scholarship at Bassett.

No Cheaters
Once again that paper work was not complete and was our AD and not Layton that created that problem. I don't wish that on any school what happened to us and once again that player BELONGED at our school and has lived in our school district his whole life.That's something that CIF needs to correct.Also something we don't need to teach our kids is to talk bad about other ethnic groups.I hope your school has taken steps to see your yearbook is cleaned up this year and not offend any specific groups of people this year.Oh bye the way that player that was suspended last year,Roddy got him a full ride at UCLA next year.We are DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Look at the adjustments made at halftime in the CO DR game. Hags and Scherf also had stud years.

I wish you people could here Big Lou speeches, it makes you want to dust off the helmet and pads, I wish they still fit.

too bad the bo birds have landed

let's keep it on the field

someplace you obviously have no clue about

i know an unemployed coach who goes on tijuana missions to help the needy who needs a job

in all seriousness we're talking football here and not anonymous witch hunting

that's on another blog but I think the republican party already tried your tactics and lost big

so much for the karl rove school of ethics opening anything soon

Didn't Coach Layton have to forfiet games last year for cheating? Didn't he also try to have an Illegal All-Star Game at DR? What kind of message are we sending to our kids? Cheat and you can be Coach of the Year? Bad idea.

Considering intangibles like the level their teams rise to on and off the field, respect thier own and opposing players have for coaches, as well as on field performance, the clear choices to me (sorry I can't choose one--that's your job so we can all harp on you!) are Farrar, Hagerty, and Sherf! There's a definite down side to Layton that own and opposing players are aware of!

Actually what's impressive is how poorly Amat played the past couple of years with all that talent still there this year. Price, Seals, Gaise, Prieto, Johnson, Bowens, ect ect ect.

What's also impressive is teh fight diamond Ranch gave Amat thsi year.

Yes Hags is nails but his staff is unequaled in recent memory.

Like I said before Hags need to win league to get my vote.

Next year he just might.

DRanchhhhh-Verti was Amat's Teacher of the year his last season too. Don't think those topics are related

Let's talk honesty. Roddy Layton. Most coaches, to save their jobs, schedule down and get all the credit and a few worthless blog drive comments complaining about ..."who did you play?". But in the end, keep their jobs and are one and done in the playoffs and do it all again year after year. That list of coaches is overpowering, especially in the San Gabriel Valley.

Not only did Diamond Ranch have a tough preseason they also had the toughest road to the Championship game and did it in style. Beating a tough 9-1 Muir team convincingly. Beating a tougher South Hills team after coming from behind and beating them in over time and then to top it all off destroyed a charging West Covina team. That's incredible on it's face. The way they did it is unhearful. Teams rarely get this strong down the stretch after going 1-6.

A lot has been said about the Amat coach, the Azusa coach and of course Co's Big Lou but could any of those coaches have done what Roddy Layton and the Diamond Ranch team did this year? Seriously. Amat did what they are suppose to do. Beat lower level teams convincingly and compete with teams at their level. Azisa could be LP next year and CO was favored from the start after their previuos two year run. Diamond Ranch did the impossible.

We often talk about this and that on this blog but I don't see a better story out there. I don't see a more compeling argument for COY than Roddy Layton given the battles and set backs this team over came. The Championship Game was a testament to courage, team work and an undying will to beat the odds. Coach Layton made that possible.

Step back and ask yourself as former football players, former coaches and current players or parents of players this simple question.

"How remarkable was Diamond Ranch's run this year?" If Roddy Layon's Panthers would have beaten CO this wouldn't even be an argument now would it? Some believe the Championship game proves Layton's pick worthy.

Roddy Layton and his team will be remembered in coaching circles every time their teams starts slow or faces imsurmountable odds. I can hear it now..." Diamond Ranch started 1-6 and made it to the Championship Game gentlemen... such and such years ago...."IT CAN BE DONE!!!!"...coaches will tell their team. "IT CAN BE DONE...ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BELIEVE!"... somewhere in the back of every players ind will be this one unspoken truth..."IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR COACH!"

Isn't that what sports is suppose to be about? Isn't that why, as Americans, we cheer for the underdog? Hope David hits Goliath in the right spot and takes him down against all odds? Isn't that why the game is NEVER played on paper? Isn't that why we run extra sprints, lift weights @ 6 in the morning during the off season, study film, practice until we're pucking and dream of a chance... just a chance....to beat a better and stronger team?

This is not a difficult decision. I saw Fred on the sidelines at the Championship Game and there were so many sportwriters on the Diamond Ranch side. Pete Marshall, great guy by the way, and many others...and I could see it in their eyes....'WHAT IF???...WHAT IF??? 'WHAT IF DIAMOND RANCH PULLS IT OFF?"

Diamond Ranch inspired this year. I can not believe any team spoke more for high school sports this year than the Diamond Ranch team did with the good, the bad and the ugly on displaly...every once of effort was poured out.

I asked a couple of sportswriters that night the same question.

'Don't you think Roddy Layton coached every once of football out of these kids?" It was the question that needed no answer...just look on the field. Roddy coached this team beyong itself and if you ask him...he only made them believe in their potential. Just look at the interview when MM ask him did Diamond Ranch "OVER ACHIEVE?"...Roddy's answer said it all. Class guy to the end.

Roddy Layton Coach Of The Year....no one comes close if we're all honest with ourselves. He did an incredible job.

If not Hagerty, then that Azusa coach. Charter Oak was expected to be really good. So Lou doesn't get it. Many saw Amat go 1-9 and even 2-8. Beating teams like OLU and Crespi is really impressive.

Hey Fred,
Congrtates to C.O.
But how about some press on RIO HONDO, they won their championship against Riverside Christian 13-6.

About twelve of their players live in Covina, Alaniz,Llamas and several others. Imagine that players going west of the 605 to play.

RIO HONDO is long overdue for some big time press! I do not get the star-news so please print in the trib.

SO LET IT BE KNOWN THERE ARE TWO CHAMPS IN THIS VALLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hands down,

RODDY LAYTON....i cant get into the internal things, but just based on this years struggles with not only the whole sgv, parents, kids, his own admin....man this is his award by far. O, did i mention he was teacher of the year a year ago?

Scherf... he did the unthinkable at azusa he made the kids the coaches and the city all believe in a very undersized and unathletic team... he made it 2 the 2nd round in the playoffs since 75 and won their first undeafeated leag. championship since 75... i think thats amazing... good job scherf your coach of the year in my book

Let's not forget Koffler. Rosemead wasn't even the preseason favorite in their league. Not only do they win the league, they make it to their first cif final in 26 years.

Farrar or Sherf -
Sherf- no one and i mean no one thought his team would come close to the season they had. doesnt matter what level there in.he did his job in his division.
Farrar- how can you argue.he has tied some great coaches with his fourth cif championship.not only that. the (only sgv team with the ring) !!! 13 wins no losses.1 tie.

Maggiore..

Hagerty is hands down Coach of the year! He won at the highest level. CO played one legit team, and tied them. Layton lost against every strong team they played, then "snap out of it" against the final 3 teams with a combined record of 3-27 to get save the season make a run in the playoffs, in Div 7!!!!!!!! Hagerty rebounded Amat at the highest level. He has revived the giant. He has surrounded himself with the right coaches to bring it all back to Amat. Joe Amat, get in here and drop some bombs! This isn't a popularity contest, its about who got the job done, at the highest level in the SGV.

Fred
This is so easy "Roddy Layton" is the best choice. No other coach in the sgv including big Lou wanted or even came close to taking on the schedule that the DR had. Also there is no other coach that brings in the college recruiters like Roddy does. NOTE TO ALL PLAYERS IN DIAMOND BAR AND VICINITY . DR WILL HAVE THREE D1 SCHOLORSHIPS AND AT LEAST TWO MORE ON THE WAY.That's what a coach does who cares for his players.FOR ALL YOU PARENTS THAT ARE READING THIS IT MEANS $1,200,000.00 IN SCHOLORSHIPS FREE MONEY AND POSSIBLY TWO MORE AT ANOTHER $800,000.00 that's free money because of Roddy Layton.We got plenty of exposure this year because of our schedule and it payed off big time for our players.PARENTS THATS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO GET A FREE EDUCATION AND YOU KNOW ITS TOUGH OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

Yes the CO coach should get it without a doubt, if not him then the D. Ranch coach for sure... To all the CO fans responding to my comments and whoever else responded, read all the comments before u respond... I never said Muema sucked or did I say Tra did, sumbody mentioned Tra not being able to dp anything against a good D team... All i did was compare what the others did, if that means he didnt then the others did as well... Again responding to a comment, not saying they did indeed have bad games... READ READ READ then respond... C.O. 4 coach of the year, GOOD LUCK NEXT YEAR!

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WITHOUT FURTHER COMMENT
COACH OF YEAR IS BIG LOU AS HE AGAIN PILOTED CHARGERS TO WIN ALL THE MARBLES>
NO EXCUSES JUT GOT IT DONE.