Football: The champs still looking ...

BA faithful,

Has the aforementioned video been removed?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh4l9Yaz0w

Oh well, I watch the next one...

BA videos make me vomit. werd up

knice video =)

Thanks for all the "kudos."

Ya, that team was awesome this year, and yes, they did indeed play some very good teams, and when they had too, they really shined brightly didn’t they?

I think it's interesting to see replays of some of the games that you saw in person, because here, you can see just how impressive the play was, from another angle.

There was one play in particular that stood out in my mind, and that was the defensive play that Sheldon Price made in the LB Poly game. You can see him make a great play in this video when he deflects the ball (intended for a wide open receiver) out of bounds, and in so doing, he saves a sure touchdown.

Simply awesome!

Our pride and honor...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkdnDvgXf0&feature=related

You've made us so very proud son. Your name will never be forgotten within our hallowed halls.

You are the perfect definition of strength, honor, and hard, hard, MFing hard work!!!!!!

The world is yours young one...I know you will make the Alumni proud. Mighty where you then, are now, and forever will you be Mr. Seals....

You and those like you are the San Gabriel Valley's hope for the future...

As a non-Amat affiliate but supporter, I am truly impressed by the aggressiveness of the Bishop Amat defense and the athleticism of the rest of the team. I have yet to see another Valley team match this type of play. I've been a Glendora fan for many years and the last time I've seen a team like this was a few years back when we played Redlands High. We had a good team that year but Redlands looked like they came from another planet and this planet was shaped like a football. I love my Tartans but I felt like we were playing a college team that night and I know there were many that were shocked by what our boys experienced. We knew that they had been a D-1 team in the past but we figured they were not that great since they were not D-1 anymore.

I know these are only positive Bishop highlights but man, they are something to see. I guess it would not be so special if it was not for the fact that these plays are against some very good D-1 teams.

Its good that they are back as contenders. But with the economy the way it is, I think they may have problems with families willing but not able to afford tuition. This is a sad reality.

I'am a big charter oak fan and i follow every season, i'am flattered to be in the same talk as bishop amat they are a great program with a great football tradition, and yeah they did eary that win over orange lutheran. but show a little class bishop fans geez. but you guys do have great fans at the stadium i dont know about this blog.

8:29

Two big plays vs. LB Poly

Isn't this a Charter Oak thread? lol

WOW!!!!!

Check out #20 Deshawn Gaisie's run against Crespi at 6:25 in the video. He's definitely underrated!!!

Anyone who still thinks that Bishop Amat's victory or Orange Lutheran was a "fluke" should watch that video. There's plenty of highlights of other games as well.

Here is a repost:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh4l9Yaz0w

It also looks like the audio was blocked due to copyright laws. They should repost with new music. Regardless, the video is a true testament to just how far Amat football has come in just one season.

South Hills, Los Altos, etc. have screamed for an Amat game in the very recent past. I also remember South Hills jumping for joy and salivating after their passing tournament defeat of BA during last summer. This just goes to show you how very little passing league games reflect a team's actual caliber, talent, depth, etc. Imagine what would have happened if they had to face the above Amat team...

It would have been very, very ugly...waaaay more ugly than the West Covina game.

Yeah, I agree, before any coach schedules Amat, they should watch the video...

those posts were far too intelligent and wordy to be from the former werd up

Oops...I meant Edison (Huntintong Beach)and not Eisenhower (Rialto). Got the inventor mixed up with the old General.

Eisenhower and Fontucky (Fontana) used to be a top dog school in the late 80's and early 90's..they blow big time now.

If CO wants to step up see where they measure with the big boys so badly, there are plenty of good teams to schedule:

Notre Dame (SO)
Mater Dei
Servite
Tesoro
Long Beach Poly
Lakewood
Centennial
Miller
Eisenhower
Crespi
Loyola
St. John Bosco
Mission Viejo
St. Bonnie
Lutheran
Oaks Christian
Bishop Amat.........

You want me to go on?

BTW CO is a division II team with all their recruits and transfers. Crespi and Lutheran was a DX team 5 years ago and look at them now.

I think after watching Amat on Youtube will give CO more reason to run.

I can't believe how Charter Oak is acitvely looking for a game and is posting for week one game. Didn't Amat call and leave you plenty of messages. I know Mrs. Wiard has the number if the AD can't find it.....I have always said if you want to say you are the best than you should have the Ba--s to schedule them. That goes for the mighty South Hills team. At least CO scheduled Amat before and took their whipping.

If Gano was at Damien when the scheduling went on do you think he would have scheduled Amat?? Just a question to ponder...

To DRAAAAAANCHH,

Are you serious? are you really even allowed in this blog, we beat you and we beat you all the time you have no say in this blog, i have no problem with the bishop fans being in here saying their opinions but you no, no way you haven't beat us in like 10 years so you can go to next topic with San Dimas and Azuza cause that's where you belong and will always belong.

Please watch the following video and know that we have and always will represent our home...

This video comes from the heart of La Puente with branches extending throughout the San Gabriel Valley...

Before you challenge our Alma Mater, I encourage you to watch this video...It's brand new...

dark green guys = LB Poly

bright red guys = Lutheran

dark brown ugly Michigan striped helmet guys = Crespi

AGAIN...this is BRAND NEW...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh4l9Yaz0w

matmtwtbng
onblue

HAHAHAAHAHAHAA

CO VS. MISSION VIEJO???

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA

no seriously...it's scary how much most of the San Gabriel Valley knows absolutely nothing about the giants of the PAC-5.

HOW DO YOU EDUCATE SUCH???

Just to prove my point about getting a rise out of simple minded folks in here, just look at the post below me. Too funny...

It never fails. I just love this blog !

jcaz,
Basically my huff, as you put it was with your openning paragraph. Seeing as you do have your Notes on AMAT column and many other pro AMAT postings I do think you are one of the faithful and to me it just seemed totally off base . No reason to get your chonies in a wad ( ha ha ha ) just a little note to a fellow alum (I think ) as I would hope one of the faithful would let me know if I came across a little off base.

jcaz...stupider???

yeah you're one to talk

dwweeebbb !!!

73

Chill out dude, you're always in a huff when it comes to what I post in here.

Remember, I crank out allot of stuff, just to get a rise out of some of these simple minded haters who will inevitably come back at me with something even stupider than what I just posted.

Its kinda fun you know.

And, it seems to never fail. Case in point: Farmer John, and maybe even you a time or two eh??. Ha ha.

But hey, what can I say!

Look, I will agree with you, and with some of the other folks in here who say we don’t need a game against CO.

It is, after all, a no win situation for Amat.

But to tell you the truth, I suppose that what gets a rise out of me, is when these "dip schits" actually believe the crap they put out there, and then run like the dickens when you call them on the carpet for it.

Oh well.

Basic,
I am sure most of if not all of the AMAT faithful would want us to play all sports in D-1 and not in the mixture we play in now. We are not ones who decide which divison we are in concerning our sport programs CIF does that. As you can see we are spread out across the board with the other sports.I think in Girls basketball we are raised in the state championship divisions as opposed to where the teams we play in CIF are placed. I believe Joe Amat would have the explanation for the various division situation but I think it has something to do with the old Serra being re-teamed due to the OC schools wanting an all OC league.
Parochial fan,
First off if we lose a game we lose a game . We are human and things do happen.Losing to one of those schools would not have the same effect as losing to CO,WC,DR would in the supposed recruiting wars of the SGV .We do pull quite a few in from Miraculous Medal so maybe a Cantwell game makes more sense. I just don't know if those teams would be in the mix and especially since they are not close by and we already schedule local teams to fill 2 or 3 spots on our schedule. As Mr. Corona has said we did play Salesian years ago and I think he was trying to figure out why we played Salesian. By the way my cousin is a big player in the Cathedral Alumni Assoc. and in our many talks a game between our 2 schools has never come up.

Amat73,

I am one of those "non-amat" people who agree that Amat does not need this game, they do a great job with their football program, I do however have issues with their other sports programs that move 2,3,4 divisions down just so they can win some titles, as you said it "We know who we are and do not need a victory over CO to prove anything." but your other sports do. That is my issue with Amat BUT having said all that I admit that they do a great job with their football program and there is NOTHING in it for them to play CO.

C.O. should schedule a Crespi, Loyola though, it would be a great game and if they can pull a victory it would give C.O. the creditials to go to a bowl game.

I would have to agree with an earlier post, hey Amat if you don't wanna play Charter Oak how about Serra or Cathedral two Catholic schools who have dramatically improved over the last 5 years and consistently send kids to D-1 schools. Oh wait, if you loose to either one of the schools especially Cathedral you might cut off that pipeline of talent and send some of those kids east. Im sure either one of those schools (I think they are Div 7 maybe or even lower) would love to play you especially since they have a very good chance of coming out on top. come on schedule one of those games it would be interesting to see and Coach Canales has first hand experience playing both of those schools when he was head coach at Cantwell in the early 90's, he beat both schools with far less talent on his Cantwell squads, I know cause I was on the Cantwell teams that won (beat a highly ranked Cathedral team in 92 and a Serra team loaded with at least 4 players who went D-1 in 93).

jcaz,
First off where do you see AMAT folks going ape sh_t over this thread. I see AMAT posts of which Joe and myself are trying to explain to " sign it " that we as AMAT do not need nor are crying for this game against CO.We know who we are and do not need a victory over CO to prove anything. Posts from non AMAT people are the ones writting that CO should schedule either AMAT or tougher opponents.The other posts from AMAT faithful are concerning different matters.Then you come off with( you AMAT folks) and then call us honks. Are you now not a member of the AMAT faithful. You go on to write Fred knows how much a thread on this topic pisses people like yourself off. Who is the honk afterall with that type of statement .

I agree with SGV prep fan. If you cannot or will not play Amat, then CO play one of our Serra Brothers Loyola ND or Crespi. When you get your a-- beat your players wont jump ship to attend these other schools they are too far from Covina. CO see what it is like to play a team Amat plays every year. Sack up Charger Fans, coaches and players. By the way MV would slap the pi-- out of CO.

jcaz,

Are you sure you weren't referring to the farm you live on JACKASS!

CO vs. Layola now there's an intersting game, and hey they play in Glendale so not to far to travel...

CO if you cannot schedule Amat because the boundries are too close then schedule another Serra team. How about Loyola or Crespi.

sign it,
Again you have it all wrong . We do not need the CO game and could care less if it happens because afterall history does have a habit of repeating itself and we have traveled that road before.As for scenario one that would probably happen because of a lousey pass interference call that some blind ref blew.HA HA HA . Scenario number two the thinking should be well CO has really stepped up their game and talent, maybe they should move up divisions and really start to challenge their program. Scenario number three is more than likely what would happen . Now in a couple of posts we have gone from being your big brother to being your Daddy. My friend , to what higher level will you take us to next.

First of know that I am not the biggest BA supporter, they do a great job with Football but NOT with their other sports. having said that, I see no reason why BA should even play CO, there is nothing for them to gain, win and you are supposed to, loose and you're a fake no good blah blah blah. So why even try and make that game happen???

As for CO I see them as the at large bid team in the BCS. Therefore THEY MUST shcedule a game that puts them on the map, and yes that means they have to go out and play at someone's house. I think CO is a very good team and last year was amazing but if they want to be in a bowl game at the Home Depot Center they have to go play a top notch school, and yes BA would be one, but they don't want that game, so why not GO to OC or even down to San Diego and play a school there?

Hey DRanchhh,thanks for being concerned about CO becoming a "true champion", but why don't you worry about how to beat Bonita. CO will take care of their own schedule.

CO wont play BA because of a difference in philosophy.

If CO / Muir does not work out, Monrovia versus CO would be interesting.

d rannnch really??

u still havent figured out how to beat us! we could play st lucys mary star of the sea and basset and it wouldnt matter cuz we always know we got good ol d ranch to whoop up on...

Same ol stuff....

Yeah granted they got with us the second half in the "Ship", That still is a weak schedule given that they have so many returning starters let along players. They should be talking to the OC's, Millers, La Habra's. etc. Even with BA in week one, still not a strong schedule. COme on CO, get it together. DB, Damien, Etiwanda will not prove your ability to be a true champ.

Since Charter Oak lost out to two San Diego teams for the State Bowl game...Why not attempt to schedule Cathedral or Oceanside???

If the phone call hasn't been made, why hasn't it? This wouldn't be playing up-But would be playing the best in your peer group. I know several schools in San Diego that schedule outside of the county every year.

What about it CO fans or those in the know???

sign it,

I'm not sure where everyone from Amat "wants to play CO so bad" In fact most close to the program have said the reverse. Now is not the time. A couple high caliber lower level games is plenty. We've got those two for at least another year.

We went through that scenario a couple years ago, as you say. I'm not certain they really want it deep down either. And we've already said that the CO powers that be won't let it happen anyway (see the old Upland matchup).

apparently you chose to ignore I wrote before. No problem - same thing

i just dont understand why amat wants to play co so bad lets go over 3 scenarios

scneario one- CO 34 amat 31..so you get beat by a small school and never hear the end of it and your season and coach are ruined

scenario two- amat 21-CO 14...aka the diamond ranch scenario where you almost get beat by a d7 school and everyone questions your abilities and trashes you and has a reason to belive they can beat you

scenario 3- amat 34 CO 6 the 2004 scenario where everyone says who cares thats what your supposed to do anyways

at what point do you feel like you have something to gain from playing co

and CO is not the true little brother amat 73 where at that point where you start beating your dad in arm wrestling match or you start beating your older brother in 1 on 1 basketball haha

i believe jon joe is at mt sac.

How does Bishop Amat look for next year?

Any St Paul transfers coming in after that coaching $1,000,000 buyout/bushwhacking?

Amat 73 or Joe Amat who's going where from the Lancers this year?

MISSION VIEJO... PLEASE... The greek pimp wouldn't dare schedule that. You guys should stop him the next time he fixes his mouth to pronounce a word that even starts with an "M"... Mission Viejo... YEAH RIGHT!

We need to play a big time school period! Mission Viejo would have been nice but guess thing's didn't work out. how about temescal canyon are they any good? they have an opening in week one. And of course no one would mind playing Bishop Amat, they have a great program and if we can beat them which i think we have a good shot at next year, this can propell us to the state championship. And also if Amat can pick up a win over co next year they can finally feel good about themselves haha.

How about Quartz Hill?

sign it,
I have no doubt that the heart of the CO program wants this game. The whole valley wants this game. First of all just by putting this game on their schedule win or lose enhances their chances for that bowl game if they win CIF as Fred states. Second a wins helps with bringing in new top talent that would otherwise go elsewhere for both schools. But you do make perfect sense when you say big brother keep coming out to support us in December because we do support all our SGV little brothers as we would hope you come and support us when we again begin to play in December and it will happen. Now don't get mad at me for putting it that way because it originally came from your own words.

sign it,

So you read that. is that how you want it? REALLY?

Because you can't really have both. You can't on one hand, say Amat should beat all the SGV teams (which, I agree, they should) then with some twisted logic turn around and say those teams are better because they play each other in some post season tournament that happens to contain all the teams that you just said we are better than and should beat. It doesn't work that way. In any logical sense.

73 stated why this game won't (and probably shouldn't) happen at this time. Maybe after others drop off CO can have their turn. They took a shot a couple years ago, as did Glendora. Cycling a couple locals in along with Damien (who SHOULD be on equal footing - it's not OUR fault they haven't been)is a good thing. If not, knuckleheads around the valley buy into some of that "twisted logic" that you tried to spin. So every once in a while Amat should have those teams come in and take a chance to solidify the separation.

Amat schedules "up" by scheduling some of the better teams in the Division (OLU), championship level teams in lower divisions (DR, LO, WC), and compete in the league that was rated by Cal Preps as the 3rd *best league in the nation* and the Pac-5 which is the 2nd *best division in the nation*

So I guess the reverse could also be true. You're big brother can enjoy playing the best in the country, knock off a couple of them, beating the teams from the SGV (proving that they are the best around these parts) finish where they should and know where they stand, collect their scholarships to the next level, then watch others win their little San Gabriel Valley Championship, which is all the Southeast Division really is, against all the SGV teams you say they were supposed to beat.
Can live with that.

GOOD COMMENTS SIGN. AMAT SUCKS. WERD UP

just because the decision makers do not want this game to happen doesnt mean that the core and the heart of the CO program doesnt want it

i think bishop amat should examine there program if d-7 schools are rollin into there backyard and puttin the ball down and playing fearless, win or lose whatever its pre-season

amat you will know when your program is where it needs to be because this topic will not be a thread on the blog...as for now big brother enjoy your 10-11 game seasons and 2 or 3 upsets and let downs and keep coming out and supporting us in december

you havent played a 2nd round game in a loooooong time but boy you sure did a great job beating teams you were supposed to beat from the sgv

Sam Lavea?
Mt. Sac

Rex Foss?
Humbolt College

Matt Casteneda?
Whittier College

Ira Thomas?
??

playing up,
Where did I mention anything about playing up?????????????? I was simply stating my reasons for the CO game not happenening. Or does your post have nothing to do with my post below.

Anyone know what happened to Sam Lavea from Los Altos a few years back?

How about Rex Foss?
Matt Casteneda?
Ira Thomas?

How about that slick wide receiver from Bonita that played in the All Star game with that class?

And what's the deal with Jon Joe? Great individual...what's going on with him?

Diamond Ranch (win)
West Covina (win)
Damien (parochial school competition)
Charter Oak (dreaming)
Los Osos (lose)
St Paul (tradition)

Okay which one of those games was "playing up" for Bishop Amat....Amat 73?

Well Done! But I think I may have hit a nerve.

Goodwill Game???

"The first school in the SGV that taps into the Samoan pipeline topples Amat as SGV KIng. Just watch and see."

Samoans may be from some bumfuckt little island, but they aren't stupid. Why in the hell would they want to come to the SGV, and waste four years of their lives to mediocre coaching, and sparse supporting talent?

OR..... you could have said the same about Phil Jackson?

OR...you could say the same about Jon Gruden?

Time will tell. How do you like your crow?

senseless banter,
What makes you think "get a grip" is a AMAT blogger. I see no reference to AMAT slapping the _ _ _ _ out of CO in his post unless something was deleted and I missed it. The game with CO will not happen, one for the obvious reason and two because we already have 3 local teams on our schedule. As for the AMAT vs Damien let's see if Gano keeps it going after next years game .Remember this was already scheduled and he had nothing to do with this and seeing as he never scheduled AMAT while at LA I doubt he will keep this game going.

OR Gano is exposed as a coach who won with superior talent and inferior coaching.

Don that almost and could have happened last year if the "call" went the right way for Diamond Ranch.

Playing CO makes great sense for BA but a better and more meaningful game will be Damien and BA for the next couple of years. Finally all those public school coaches get a chance to knock heads with Bishop Amat on equal, if less accomplished, footing.

Both schools recruiting , agressively or passively, and both have incredible area pull feeder sytems and resources so let's see how things shake up.

Gano get's a chance to show what he could do. In 3 years this match up will be the biggest game in the Valley!

Other than as a curiosity quencher what would Amat stand to gain by playing Charter Oak? They beat 'em. Yawn, what else did you expect in a game between a Pac-5 and a Southeast D school? You lose and folks would be calling for Hags to be run out of town on a rail.

The idea of any D1 school booking any D7 school is crazy. Setting up a game with a team like C O who may actually beat you is more than looney, and to take that thought further, C O is a school that competes for many of the same athletes Bishop Amat does. Just crazy talk.

For Charter Oak, either way, the game is a win win. A showcase where they can be compared to the best there is in the SGV. IF C O loses, they just say, “Golly, we're just this poor little mid-size school trying to prepare our athletes for a tough league and post-season schedule”. You know, like Roddy does. Should the Chargers upset the Lancers, they have bragging rights for years, and only increasing their “athlete magnet” status.

"get a grip" ...which is it?

willl MV "slap the pi**" out of CO" but you still want CO to play BA so BA can "slap the " out of them?

Aparently CO isn't afraid of BA if they are trying to schedule MV.

Some BA bloggers make less sense the closer we get to football.

How about Serra Hish School or Cathedral?

Neither team is a fraid to mix it up and both have a tradition of sending kids to the next level? Besides what's the big deal about playing "up"? Some schools with alot less tradition do it on an almost weekly basis.

It's pretty funny actually to read about playing up and challenging yourself when 75% of teams without a huge following play "most" of their game with less than a 30% chance of winning and when they do succeed are slammed for either being a no body and lacking history or being in a weak league. Look at what happened with Azusa last year and La Puente the year before.

Charter Oak, if they were really smart would play Dorsey, Carson, Norbonne or San Pedro in hopes of grabbing some athletes that want to "transplant" themselves to a safer environment with coaches that treat athletes like family.

The first school in the SGV that taps into the Samoan pipeline topples Amat as SGV KIng. Just watch and see.

Charter Oak already has great athletes and a great staff all they need is a pipeline of athletes and playing Bishop Amat actually hurts them in that regard.

I saw both teams up close last year and it would have been a coin toss much like the Conference Championships last week between Cardinals/Eagles and Ravens/Steelers. Any one of the four could have won.

I would like to see Bishop Amat play Norco or Corona Centennial instead. What would be nice is to schedule the BA/CO game and have the proceeds go to the Ortega Fund and schedule the game on a Saturday at Citrus College so every school ccould come and represent in a show of SGV Unity and Goodwill.

Mrs. Wiard knows Amat and what goes on there with football and spots programs. She will not let Amat crush her school down to size so later they can tell her I told you so. She is no dummy.

Amat's phones are not ringing. Just waiting for the call from Charter Oak and it's go time.

Mission Viejo will slap the pis- out of CO.

Come on now, it ain't no secret why Farrar doesn't wish to play Amat again.

He doesn't want another big time ass beating.

BUDDDDDDDDDDDY!