Hoops Thread: Tartans win again, 54-40
There was nothing complicated about Glendora High School's gameplan against rival Damien.
But the Tartans showed Friday night that even the simpliest of things can be quite effective.
Kos Russell and Calvin Smith scored 13 points each and Glendora shut down the Spartans in the first half to stay in the hunt for a Sierra League boys basketball title with a 54-40 victory at Damien High.
Glendora, also getting 10 points from Brian Downard and 12 rebounds from Brad Gatlin, held the Spartans to just four field goals and 11 points in the first half to improve to 18-6 overall and 5-1 in league. Damien, getting12 points from Chris Adams and 11 from Jacob Latham, lost for the fifth time in six league games and dropped to 14-9 overall.

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Friday's boys basketball schedule
Sierra League
Glendora 54, at Damien 40
Chino at Diamond Bar, 7 p.m.
Chino Hills at Ayala, 7 p.m.
Del Rey League
Bishop Amat at Cathedral, 7:30 p.m.
Miramonte League
Charter Oak at Diamond Ranch, 7 p.m.
Bonita at Los Altos, 7 p.m.
Mission Valley League
At Gabrielino 64, South El Monte 59
Rosemead at Mountain View, 6:30 p.m.
Arroyo 50, at El Monte 40
Montview League
Sierra Vista at Workman, 6 p.m.
Gladstone 49, at Azusa 44
Bassett at La Puente, 6 p.m.
San Antonio League
At Nogales 80, South Hills 74
Walnut 64, at West Covina 60
Valle Vista League
Northview at Ganesha, 7 p.m.
Pomona at Covina, 7 p.m.
San Dimas at Baldwin Park, 7 p.m.
Nonleague
At Rowland 72, Wilson 42
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you're right, workman hasn't done much, but this season has shown drastic improvement. for the past two seasons workman has finished the season with .500 record, and has came up just short of the montview league title(2nd place back to back times). but this year they will finish the season 19-5, and they took down south hills by 18, ayala by 5, and reached the championship of a tough tournoment. this hasn't been done at workman in a great while. so they have done ALOT this season. workman beat south hills by 18 and nogales only beat them by 6. i'm not saying that automatically means workman can beat nogales, but it can get some people thinking. i hope workman gets to play diamond ranch next season..... i think without a doubt workman will be the top team in the valley next year. they're only losing 2 players.
WHAT HAS WORKMAN DONE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS? THE CONFERENCE SUCKS ! NO COMP..
WHAT HAS WORKMAN DONE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS? THE CONFERENCE SUCKS ! NO COMP..
Don't coaches develop talent or do they just wait for it to fall from the sky? This argument didn't work when it was used in football and it won't work now. I know I played on both teams last year. Try something different. Blaming the talent pool is why coaches get fired. Try walking on to any program and see how poorly coached you've been compared to most. Stay out of Damien's affairs unless you've actually dealt with these two. They are both liars and hold grudges with parents and take their pettiness out on the players.
I would think that Josh Giles would be the next Glendora coach. Giles is the present coach at Corona Centennial and has won a cifss title. I heard today that one of the super sophs at CCHS will be heading to Mater Dei next year.
Not much of a character witness in terms of Damien academics you naive little child! If you want to speak in relationship to valley athletics, have of! Damien may have some size, but that doesn't equate to wins. They still have to have or develop some skills. Some kids develop early, late, or not at all. You sound disgruntled, which suspends your opinion! You cannot make an unbiased opinion. I however, have nothing to do with Damien at all. I have watched valley athletics for the past 25 years & can make an unbiased judgment. Talent at Damien is not as superior as you might hope. Kids work hard and will develop, but they are not overwhelming! My opinion, like yours, means nothing. Get over yourself! If you are a player/parent on the team, you are pathetic and won't amount to much. If you are a player in the league, shame on you, support your team. I have seen the league and have a better understanding than you. You are what is wrong with High School athletics. Wake up, you aren't helping your school! The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Where was Damien before Coach Dunn. Riddle me that Batman!
Leduc wont hire Dunn, he is grooming his assistants, specifically the young JV head coach who played for him and he is young with experience, can relate to the players, next glendora coach is him,
workman beats ayala and ayala beats damien what more needs to be said maybe dunn needs to stop thinking about the Mater Dei job and focus on the one he has word has it that dunn might take over for left duc in three years or join his buddy Scott at Citrus College stranger things have happened
damien loses to ayala, workman beats ayala. damien is ranked 5th and workman is ranked 9th???? maybe those two teams should switch spots. i mean, i know its hard to define how good workman is right now because they've been beating up on the montview league every single game. every league game for workman has been over by halftime. but i think workman can take down many of the top teams in the valley. chris cunningham from diamond ranch might be a little too much size for the lobos, but junior carlos molina does an outstanding job playing physical with the big boys. he shut down la puentes 6'6 man and made him uncomfortable all game long. i hope workman plays in the apu shootout next year.
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Salesian has to beat Orange Lutheran, Notre Dame, Oaks Christian and Crespi to try and win a CIF Championship plus Price! At least Cathedral is ranked 8 and Salesian is ranked 15 and show up to play. Now what was it about the tough Sierra League and Damien's impossible task at hand? All those schools have an abundance of division 1 athletes and deep pocket athletic programs so why is Cathedral and Salesian getting it done ? Shut up and play! Every team in CIF has problems, injuries and illnesses. Not very school makes up excuses or looks for them.
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"at least that's what I've been told"...not a parent, not a relative, not a former coach, not a booster, not an alumni, not a former player, not much of a character witnesss are you?
12 players over 6'2" and 3 over 6"5", the tallest player in the league at 6"10", the best pure shooter in the league, the best freshmen in the league at 6'6", a 6'5" sophmore who rarely plays, the deepest bench in the league, and the best twins in the league, damien is easily the most athletic team in the sierra league but they are not only losing they are getting blown out big time , why?
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2. Price
3. Crespi
4. Oaks Christian
5. Laguna Beach
6. Chaminade
7. Santa Clara
8. Cathedral
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11. Valley Christian/Cerritos
12. Carpinteria
13. Notre Dame/Sherman Oaks
14. La Salle
15. Salesian
16. Fairmont Prep
I really like what CIF did with the divisions! I think Workman has a legit chance to make some noise because they no longer have to go up against the likes of Bishop Montgomery,Harvard Westlake,Compton Centenial,Mayfair,Ocean View as they have all been booted out. Good Luck Lobos but I think next year will be the year they can contend.
Wow bashing little kids. I hope that you are not a grown adult.
Whoe the hellp keeps saying that Suerra league is the one of the toughtest in Southern CA, give me a breaking, first of all Glendora sucks, Chino Hills sucks, Diamond Bar is a double sucker and Damien (who the hell are they) and mix in Chino and you have garbage. suck suck suck suck
First Those so called West Covina Freshman are playing freshman ball and no one care about freshman ball, get the fuk off ths board you West Covina idiots. Bulldogs suck and will always suck
For those of you pathetic individuals that have ripped Coach Dunn recently, I'd love to know what your solution is. It's really seems easy to make assumptions when you haven't attended a practice or really have a limited understanding of the game of basketball. If you are a parent, shame on you! You are what's wrong with a private education. You want things your way, go to Burger King! There isn't a person that comes on this board that wouldn't say that the Sierra league is one of the toughest in southern california! Why then does he get so much criticism when his team struggles against 2 HOF coaches, the #1 Team in the league by everyones account and 1 loss to a talented, but respectless DB team? 13-4, roughly, going into this "Tough" League. They have struggled and everyone knows it, they are high school kids that attend classes all day (and to a high degree being Damien students, at least that's what I'm told). I want to make it clear that I think they are a good team, but I have seen them play several times this season and can say they are not CIF champions! They aren't any better than Glendora & Ayala, & Diamond Bar has one of the most talented players in the league in Kasey Barlow.
A couple of thoughts:
Has the team hit a slump at the wrong time? It happens every season to every team.
Have they been hit with illness? It happens every season to every team.
Is their talent level better than the other teams in the league? Sorry, seen'em all and the answer is NO, except Chino!
Those of you Parents/Players(hopefully not) what has gone on with this board & socalhoops is pathetic! Instead of finding a reason to rip someone who has the class not to respond, take a look at yourself. Right now YOU are the PROBLEM!
Reason #39 why Dunn is an idiot.
There is currently a 6'4" sophomore who sits on the bench for the Damien varsity team.
WHY?
Wouldn't he be better served playing JV ball and getting some game experience instead of just being practice fodder?
Anyone who defends Dunn must be related to him or owe him money.
Amat only scores THREE pts in the 4th quarter to blow a 9 pt lead and lose to Cathedral-just up from the Camino Real League. TWENTY-NINE pts? That's a few times in the 20's, a few in the 30's, and a a game with only 18pts-& no baskets in the entire 2nd half.
How bad must this coaches offense be?
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I'd like see what team would beat those group of freshman at WC. They'd compete with the best. I'd put money on that.
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windward and workman are in different divisions. windward is ranked #1 in division V-A, and workman is ranked #10 in division IV-A.
Stop trying to inflate West Covina, dude they suck their freshman suck and if they were any good they would be on Varsity. West Covina the new bottom dwellers of San Antonio League.
SGVPride, i have to agree with you on that Windward will be too much for them, Cezar is great but if that game does happen, him and Darius Morris(michigan bound) will both play great and cancel each other out, Miles is good, but Windward has Saunders at 6'6 and Stover at 6'11 goin to ucla, even mr remember the titans, Malcolm Washington(son of famous actor Denzel) starts at the 2 and is pretty good
WC has a lot of talent from the younger level teams and they can be good in the future
Give them 2 years
I don't see workman winning cif. They can't get past windward. Toooooo much talent
workman wins by 33...kant wait for cif...so far the closest game was by 27....keep it up lobos!!
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yeah i heard all the wc talent this year is on the freshman squad.
ayala vs chino hills?
unbelieveable is right! dunn has been good for 4 or 5 more wins a season? call out the band !
wait! add la puente and minus servite...dude you're hilarious!
dunn plays one or two legit teams maybe during preseason and add victories against lesser teams
wilson, workman, bassett, bring them all on!
your're kidding yourself! no one's kid got cut loser
just calling it like isee it
yeah blame vela for being a hothead
yeah blame the kids on the bench but please never look at th coaching
you don't press the second half and not make substitutions
you don't sit mike down after a 1st quarter that stifled glndora's big men
you don't sit malcolm the whole game
and you don't get swept at every level twice
and you don't keep jake in the game for every single minute, he's not superman he's tired at the end of every game
you don't get your jv team blown out by 46 and 30 points, in league, if you're on the right track iwth the program
and you don't blame the kids
that didn't work for morrison, well it did for the short term, and then the parents figured it all out...blow out after blow out
The west covina squad is filled with a bunch of seniors who were on JV last year. That in itself is a young team.
Talent at the other levels will help in the future.
BONITA 68 LOS ALTOS 46 I know it is only Los Altos but it was a league win. Cody Bennett scored 17pts with 9 rebounds and led his team in both, again. Just had to post somewhere because we get NO coverage from the papers.
I personally know Jake Vieth and he is one of the nices kids you will ever meet; he gives 100% all the time. Chino Hills the best team in that league so Glendora will have to settle for 2nd.
Nice to see all the dads who are wannabe coaches and whose kids were cut out on the message board... no one seemed too upset with coach dunn when he took a program that had won 15 games the previous two years and within four years took them to a 23 win season... 19 wins last year and 13 wins coming into league this year... all these great players that are supposedly on the damien bench... has anyone seen what happens to them when they get into games? pretty ugly.
tony vela? really? wow. well let's see... tony was a hothead who was totally loyal to the previous coach because he was brought up to varsity as a freshman. he wouldn't have liked any new coach. he just also happened to be a great club soccer player throughout high school, and quit basketball to play soccer his senior year. oh and he led the damien soccer team to a CIF championship and was division 1 player of the year! and went on to play soccer in college... that just seems like a good decision on his part, not anything wrong with coach dunn...
wow, the nogales vs south hills score was pretty close. it seems like west covina is having a hard time, they keep losing by few points and not blow outs. that must be hard for coach messick.
Dunn is a master motivator and a innovative genius. he is sandbagging the season to fool his one and done critics. no playoffs no first round exit!
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"Dunn is the finest coach in the San Gabriel Valley and it would not surprise me one bit if in time he replaces Mater Dei's Mc Knight some day" what in the world are you thinking, he is the 4th best coach in our league, he is on the hotseat not looking for a promotion, he cant get them out of the 1st round or win a league title. He is a horrible coach. McKnight's replacement is going to have a great resume as a head coach or the job will go to his long time assistants, not some scrub coach from la verne who cant even win a league championship, they expect cif and state championships at Mater Dei not to be competivitive in league but always fall short. that is the story of Dunn's career at Damien- talent but always chokes in big games, cant win league, 1st round cif exits.
The players at Chapman and ULV are Justin Riley and Griffin Ramme at Chap, ULV- Brian Mancilla, Trevor Woodland, Austin Napolitano. Those kids are not D1 players flat out, they are D2 and D3 kids and i wish them well, they are doing good there
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Kenny was only mad at Morrison because he was never given a chance at QB when every player wanted him after a stellar Freshmenand JV campaign.
The Pit hates Dunn? That because most tried out and failed making the team. Dunn has an incredible eye for talent but players like Hickey and James gave up on themselves.
Dunn is experiencing an Obama backlash with his minority players who feel empowered to question time proven successful methods.
The Dunn system works ! Look at his comer players who could have gone D1 but instead chose to give back to the community at ULV and Chapman U. Something few coaches encourage these days.
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Ours???
I don't represent either team. I just happen to have an opinion.
I know kids on both teams. My loyalties are divided.
You mention Dunns system. That's a laugh.
I do know the difference between a good coaching system and a bad one and Damien has a bad one. It starts freshman year and goes downhill from there.
Don't believe me? Ask Johnathan Johnson or Jesse Maxwell about Dunn's system.
Jake has a desire to be great. He would do well anywhere. I wouldn't start Kenny, but he'd be a contributor off of the bench for my team. BTW, Kenny complains about Dunn alot. He complained about Morrison during football season as well.
So you see I am neutral. I just call it as I see it.
Glendora by 10
BTW, The Pit is the best home advantage in the Sierra League. Those guys crack me up. Most of them hate Dunn too.
cool as a cucumber you have a very accurate assessment of your players and a suspect one of ours. comapring dunn to le duc is like comparing a nissan DT-R to a 911 turbo. one is a flash in the pan with an occassional "comparo" win while the is the "standard" by which all others measure themselves.
kenny and jake are a product of dunn's basketball system but neither would play the same role at glendora nad that's why both are spartans.
end of that story!
imagine jake and kenny at glendora. would jake be a three year starter? and would kenny have sat on the bench last year and started this year for glendora...or chino hills for that matter?
Damien by 26 ! or by 1....Damien wins tonight. Chris and Chris go for a combined 40! The Lathams run outta gym and Malcom and Mike dominate the boards. Maxwell D up's and Sparta runs wild.
My question is why no Dominguez?
Let's compare Damien and Glendora. These are two pretty evenly matched teams.
Damien is a little more athletic and Glendora is a better overall shooting team.
Jake Veith and Kosmond Russell are the type of players that any coach would be happy to have running their offense.
Each team has solid, but not great, big men. Chris Reyes may one day become a superstar. Brian Downard pulls down alot of rebounds and blocks shots.
For Damien, the Latham brothers can jump out of the gym. For Glendora, Juan Martinez and Brad Gatlin are very intelligent ball players.
Tartan Calvin Smith can shoot the lights out. Spartan Chris Adams can as well.
Players like Glendora's Aaron Stockham and Damien's Kenny Serafinko are necessary role players who can determine the outcome of a game with a clutch basket or a heads up defensive play.
So why is Glendora 4-1 and Damien 1-4 in league? Why did Glendora win by 20 at their gym? Why will Glendora probably win by 10 tonight?
That's easy.
Glendora has a great coach in Mike LeDuc. Damien has Matt Dunn.
End of story!
Will mike the clone and plaid lad be gracing Sparta with an appearance?
Fred, you coming to Sparta?
I'D RATHER GO DOWN SWINGING AND LEAVE EVERYTHING ON THE FLOOR THAN TO THINK I COULD OUT COACH THE GREAT LE DUC.
PLAYERS PLAY AND COACHES COACH...WE GOT BETTER FASTER MORE ATHLETIC PLAYERS AND WE GOT NUMBERS...THEY DON'T!
"IN A FIGHT BETWEEN A BEAR AND AN ALLIGATOR...THE TERRAIN DICTATES THE VICTOR"
"THAN WE WILL FIGHT IN THE SHADE!!!!"
SPARTA!!!!!!
besides..."we're going to college!!!!!!"
i love that one!
Damien by 26 !!!!!
Dunn finally let's tehe players play, sits Jake down for...errrr... rest...and comes out runnning and gunning, uses a Diamond press and runs Glendora off the floor!!!!!!!!!
Trust me. Dunn aint stupid. He knows he's in the hot seat. All he has to do for motivation is look into the stands for motivation and see Scott Morrison.
Damein will finally play to their potentail tonight!
"LET THE BOYS RUN AND PRESS ALL NIGHT AND WEAR THE TARTANS DOWN"
TEMPO IS EVERYTHING IN BASKETBALL. ...DAMIEN MUST SET THE PACE...BANG BIG TIME AND SMOTHER AND RUN!
MIKE J. WILL COME ALIVE AND DOMINATE THE POST AND THENMFOUL OUT TO THE MAD CHEERS OF SPARTA !!!!
SENIOR ...THIS IS YOUR NIGHT!!!!!!
THE "PIT" WILL SHATTER THE LIGHTS AND BRING DOWN THE HOUSE !!!!
TONIGHT WE ARE SPARTA !!!!!!!!!!!
Umm, DRanch by 32
Fred
Whats your pick for DR vs CO tonight.