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Hey there...I found the forum from a suggestion by dreamwalker over on another blog. I had asked him if he knew of some tuts I could look at for Blender and he
pointed me this way.I've been lookin around and some of the thread are old? So then I thought I would avoid the guest play and becoming a member instead.
I wouldn't want to embarrass myself by asking silly questions or posting something stupid but I will contribute as much as I can.
You folks are awesome..

Sgvbaseball,

We've met a few times although I am all “outside the fence” now. For the record, I have, over the course of the last four or five years, referred families to you as a provider of baseball “services”.

I can usually be found on the “hill” with the Bergara's during the Glendora tourney games or next time you come to watch Gelalich play, have his Pop point me out.

Don

sgvbaseball and sgvbasebal.com are me. The SGV post was not me. We have no intention on the Spring league in the IE. I am just wondering what part of the post was directed toward us. Yes, exposure is such an overused word. There are so many variables to get a players name out there. The one thing people lose sight on the "exposure" word is you still have to perform. All the colleges in the world can be watching and if you do not perform at a level the are looking for then they will pass. Don, Have we met? If not, I hope we do soon. You are rather informed about HS sports in the SGV.

“Don, what Mike are you refering too?
Posted by: sgvbaseball | February 4, 2009 8:55 PM “

I thought it was to the sgvbaseball.com but there appears to be another sgv in the baseball bizz. My comments stand, but I apologize for any confusion caused by my incorrect assumption.

“When refering to SGV joining this endeavor what program are you meaning?
Posted by: sgvbaseball.com | February 4, 2009 8:53 PM “

I'm interested in this too. Who exactly is sgv?

I would imagine some parents get tired of kids transfering in and taking spots away. So I can see why those kids would jump on the chance to play somewhere else.

Don, what Mike are you refering too?

When refering to SGV joining this endeavor what program are you meaning?

Seriously Mike, that “exposure” thing needs to be exposed as nothing but a buzzword for delusional parents. You don't really think there is a core of talent out there waiting to be exposed to big league scouts do you? Or that suddenly, colleges will find ways to schollie more than 11 kids. Tell me it ain't so, I always thought you were sharper than that.

That's not to say you and Spiers won't be awash in kids, you will be. Hope springs eternal in the heart of every baseball mommy and daddy come this time of year, seemingly forever. What you won't have, is much talent since they will all be playing with the school team. Which brings me to your two BIG problems.

First problem is talented staff. You already know that a goatee and four pair of under armour shorts can't turn a former JC player into a coach. It might work on the kiddie players, but HS kids see through them quick. The old Hollenbeck retreads won't get you far either, too tired and too little to teach.

Second is what do you tell the mommies and daddies of these kids in May when 95% of the HS players are done with their season and want to come back for the exposure they have been paying for all along. YIKES!

No worries guys, plenty of exposure to go around

Several schools have outstanding reputations for their programs. I have heard the same complaints about some travel ball clubs as well. Is it the school, club team or parent?

SGV will most likely follow ABD in this endeavor to have a place for ball players that just want to play ball. You that say "pay to play" players..... You are not thinking this through. Are you not paying for spirit packs, fundraisers etc... in High school? Some are buying batting cages and many ther things for their highschool so their kid can play. Anywhere a kid can get some exposure is where a kid should be and if you don't feel like your highschool coach is going to give you the exposure you need then play somewhere you can be seen.
Is your highschool coach playing the best players that deserve the exposure?

Think about this. A HS coach has a "god" complex going on and decides that he doesn't like little Johnny or Jack. Maybe little Johnny or Jack's parents speak out a little too loudly at the booster meetings or Johnny and Jack are not the fall in line typical mold players, whatever the scenario. Now Johnny and Jack are both terrific ball players but just not hitting off with their coach and their coach is inclined to make an example out of these kids by limiting their involvement on the team. Would it be such a bad thing to have a place to play, to have a place to be seen or an alternative venue to continue to show their abilities on the diamond? This provides an alternative for athletes that find themselves on the wrong end of a raw deal. Trust me, if a player doesn't have the talent to play on their own Varsity squad, An ABD team won't risk their reputation to have him on theirs, let alone recommend him to a scout. This could be very good for this type of athlete.

Pink Taco,

Stop talking Sh** about kids!

This is the league for kids like Aaron Orona. Ones that can't stay at one school longer than a month or not wanted by schools.

Don,

Great post your right on the money!

ABD's teams and teaching are well thought of but it ought to be noted that this league is intended for kids who didn't make their School teams. Good luck 'splainin to your HS Coach about missing the JV or Frosh season to play with a pay to play club.

In other words, folks who think that their little superstar has been discriminated against by the local HS Coach can now, for a nominal $100 monthly fee, send him off to play in a Spring “Travel League” against similarly disaffected children.

I predict endless success for this endeavor since we all know that there is no end to the kids who ought to be playing “at the next level” but aren't.

Has anyone heard about the proposed club league that is going to paralell the high school baseball season?. Check the article out on Baseball Resource.

lol,
what does garkow and andrade have that you don't? CIF Rings!

Curious! The HUGE STUDS from last year...lol....lol...lol... pitchers....lol...lol..lol...Fred don't you feel stupid? Best in the SGV.....JOKE.....JOKE......JOKE! lol...lol...lol...

Where are Tyler Garkow and Marc Andrade playing this year? I heard they were at Mt. Sac but they are not listed on the roster.

Thanks to Joe Amat for graciously restating my point less my inherent smartaleckness.

To the DB fan, my apologies. I feel your frustration in a more personal way than you can know. I have come to grips with the reality of living with the LANG coverage system, such as it is, devised by Fred J's bosses. Like Joe, I don't agree with it, although I sort of understand it.

The real problem is that the prep coverage in the various papers varies from the Trib's, (still pretty strong), to the Whittier Daily News and Inland Empire Daily Bulletin, (a bit less), with the Star somewhere in between. (IMEHO)

This leaves many fans whose favorite team is covered by more than one paper, (see gripes by Rosemead fans), to either pick one and hope for the best or follow both, (my less than satisfactory choice). Since I don't see anyone in the newspaper business stepping up and increasing support for coverage of anything anytime soon, I suppose I have to settle for things the way they are.

Now excuse me, I have to call Todd Rogers and tell him he doesn't have to give the Brown kid those extra seeds.

D.B.,

Re-read the part of Don's post that says,

"As to the attention or lack of attention he has received from the Trib you may want to note a couple of things. First, Diamond Bar High School is in a “dual coverage” area for Prep coverage by the Los Angeles Newspaper Group. This is true for most of the Pomona High Schools, DBHS, Diamond Ranch, Bonita, San Dimas, and Damien...."
and
"...Well that was YOUR area. The area on the other side of the 57 is shared by a whole other bunch of schools including, as you have noted, Charter Oak, Amat, and Northview. OK?"

There. Now it referees to DB in general... not G.B specifically. Still explains the situation and why you feel the way you do.

Personally, IMO, dual recognition should be eliminated to avoid that confusion. A player/school should be eligible for recognition in only ONE of the LANG papers and should not overlap. They can be *covered* when something is newsworthy and when they play an area team - but rankings and All-Area should be separate.

Don, This is not Mr. Brown! Gary Brown was the EXAMPLE!!!!!! NOT the topic you retards!!!!! Do you really think Gary's Dad would do this? Come on you fools!!!!! This was to make a point ONLY!!!!! Don, I thought you were smarter than that! My frustration with the lack of coverage for Diamond Bar became Gary Brown and his dad wanting more coverage? The point all along is and was Diamond Bar doesn't get fair coverage plain and simple! you petty old men turn it into The Browns wanting press?????? I'm done with you small minded fools!

Dear Mr. Brown,

You have every right to be proud of your boy, he has developed into a fine baseball player. I have emailed Todd to put some extra seeds in his locker and to be certain they don't run out of his favorite color gatorade.

As to the attention or lack of attention he has received from the Trib you may want to note a couple of things. First, Diamond Bar High School is in a “dual coverage” area for Prep coverage by the Los Angeles Newspaper Group. This is true for most of the Pomona High Schools, DBHS, Diamond Ranch, Bonita, San Dimas, and Damien. Remember when the Inland Valley named Gary to the all area team? Well that was YOUR area. The area on the other side of the 57 is shared by a whole other bunch of schools including, as you have noted, Charter Oak, Amat, and Northview. OK?

I don't know why the LANG seems so reluctant to share all of this; maybe they are afraid of losing a few bucks in newsstand business. Anyway, just enjoy your kid's success.

And relax.

It was an example of how you fools just found out about Gary Brown and he's in College, the stats were to show you i wasn't complaining about players from Diamond Bar that didn't deserve the ink. Come on guys pull your heads out of A**. Diamond Bar doesn't get fair coverage. Covina baseball capital of the Tribune. JOKE!

Fred/Steve,
Make this obsessive Diamond Bar/Gary Brown stalker his own thread, so he go on some more boring irrelevant rants. Was I only one asleep by the second stat? No disrespect to Gary Brown, but he's in college now. Grow up like he did and leave the nest.

Yes Steve I read the "Where are they now" Blog! I'm talking about his high school years! Two out of the three on your blog were from Diamond Bar go figure! Gary Brown is the example of how D.B. as been ignored by the Tribune not the main topic.

DB Fan,
Obviously you haven't read by Prep Stars: Where are you now? blog. I was all over Brown, tracking what he did last year. And when the season starts next month, I will provide updates, just like I do for other former area athletes.
Also to be noted, that if anyone here is going to pump up the Cal State Fullerton baseball team, it's me!

Agreeing D.B. fan just sad, Do you guys know who this baseball player is? It's Gary Brown who plays for Cal State Fullerton gesh....I think Diamond Bar's #1 fan has made his point! He was pointing out how Gary Brown is a STUD his freshmen year at CSF and was a huge stud at Diamond Bar 2 years ago. See Fred they don't know who he is lol..lol...lol....great job covering our local athletes from Diamond Bar. You knuckle heads thought he was a player wanting some ink! please he is so far above the SGV!

DB FAN
I HAVE TO AGREE, QUIT BEGGING FOR THE ATTENTION AND LEARN FROM THE JOE AMAT HATERS, NOBODY WANTS TO READ A BOOK ON HERE. NOW MY SUGGESTION IS TALK TO THE COACH AND SEE IF HE CAN GET YOUR SCHOOL SOME LUVIN. NOW IF YOU ARE THAT KID'S PARENT - YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME AT HIS AGE? IF YOU ARE THE KID HIMSELF - YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME, HOW DESPERATE ARE YOU? GOOD POINT MADE EARLIER AND THAT WAS LET THEM TALK ABOUT YOU INSTEAD OF HOLDING UP THE SIGN 'MY KID IS #1'. MAYBE THERE IS A REASON NO ONE IS GIVING THE KID SOME PRINT BUT ULTIMATELY ASK THE COACH TO LOOK INTO IT - YOU JUST LOOK PATHETIC AND NEEDY.

What's embrassing? that Diamond Bar has had talent that has never been printed by the Tribune? Come on I read about all these players ranked so high in the SGV and never hear about them again.

Colin Lockett had little coverage and he's going to San Diego State. I can list 10 guys the paper covered over & over again that have gone NO WHERE. If you think pointing out the facts is embrassing so be it! Diamond Bar is part of the SGV and has been ignored year after year. I posted Gary Brown's Bio from CSF to prove he's legit and from DBAR.

diamond bar's #1 fan -- that is as obnoxious as it is embarrasing. come on man - have some dignity. let the "ink" come to you - if not, don't worry the right people know.

TITANS `08: Was a Freshman All-American for both Baseball America and Collegiate Baseball and was a Big West Conference Honorable Mention as a utility player • Started 55 games for the Titans at both second base and left field • Set the Cal State Fullerton rookie record for stolen bases, swiping 25 bags in 28 attempts, breaking Dante Powell's 16-year old record of 19 in 1992 • Picked up his first career hit in his first Div. I at bat at TCU on Feb. 22 • Drove home his first RBI on Feb. 24 at TCU in his first career start, by going 2-for-5 with 2 RBI and a run scored • Hit his first home run on Mar. 2 at Stanford, a solo shot • Had 17 multi-hit and 8 multi-RBI games in 2008 • After seeing his average dip to .193 on March 25, he caught fire to hit .336 (45-for-134) over the remaining 42 games of the year • Collected three hits in a game twice, once on Apr. 18 at Pacific, the other on May 11 versus Cal Poly at home • Drove home a season-high 3 RBI on Mar. 2 at Stanford, belting a two-run double and a solo home run • Stole three bases against Virginia in the Fullerton Regional on June 1 • Stole two-or -more bases on five occasions in 2008 • Had an eight-game hitting streak from May 3 to May 16 where he went 12-for-24 (.500) with two doubles, two home runs and six RBI.

DIAMOND BAR HS: Was a three-year varsity player for the Brahmas under Head Coach and former Titan outfielder Rich Gonzalez • Hit .333 and earned second-team All-Sierra League honors as a sophomore • Belted three home runs and hit .480 as a junior, earning first-team all-league recognition • Was highly decorated his senior year, hitting a whopping .612 with 4 home runs • Was named the Sierra League's Most Valuable Player, garnered All-CIF and All-Inland Valley First Team recognition, and was tabbed a second-team All-American by Baseball America • Was named the MVP of the 2007 Loara Tournament • Was the Diamond Bar High School Male Scholar-Athlete of the Year • His number 22 was retired by the Brahma baseball program in 2007 • Was drafted by the Oakland A's in the 12th round of the 2007 MLB first-year player draft • Was also a two-time All-Sierra League soccer player • Academically, was on the Principal's Honor Roll in each semester of high school.

PERSONAL: Born on September 28, 1988, in Upland, Calif. • Parents are Troy and Julie Brown • Full name is Gary Allen Brown • Has an older brother, Dusty, a younger brother, Gabriel, and a younger sister, Torrie • Major is undecided • Models his game after Boston's Dustin Pedroia and Arizona's Eric Byrnes • Superstition is always carrying Chapstick in his back right pocket • Favorites include: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (team), Megan Fox, Adam Sandler (actors), Billy Madison, 300, Life (movies), Lil Wayne, Luke Bryan, Rise Against (musical artists), yahoo.com, youtube.com and mlb.com (websites).

BROWN'S CAREER HIGHS
At Bats - 6, Mar. 5, 2008 at UCLA
Runs - 3 (2 times), Last on May 4, 2008 at UC Santa Barbara
Hits - 3 (2 times), Last on May 11, 2008 at Cal Poly
RBI - 3, Mar. 2, 2008 at Stanford
Home Runs - 1 (5 times), Last on May 4, 2008 at UC Santa Barbara
Doubles - 2, Apr. 18, 2008 at Pacific
Stolen Bases - 3, June 1, 2008 vs. Virginia

P Funk, What about Diamond Bar? Fred, can you please clear this up once and for all. Is Diamond Bar considered part of the SGV? please answer this it's getting old. Gary Brown from Diamond Bar who is playing at CSF and STARTED as a freshmen, received little attention in his high school years from the Tribune! And he has been doing BIG things...What gives? Please explain.

Patrick, Good to hear the lady Brahmas are looking strong as well. See ya in the stands.

Off the top of my head the top seniors are probably
Bonita- Mier, Gelalich,
Northview- Pedroza, Arnold
San Dimas- Ponzo, Leyland
Amat- Zuniga
South Hills- Klena
Damien- Garcia
Glendora- Regis

I agree with Ben. Fred you put a few of the top seniors on the cover. For many of them it's their last hurrah. They have made the SGV proud.

Ben, who would be the top Seniors?

I don’t recall what Charter Oaks open dates were for football next year, however, I just read in the Times that Notre Dame is scambleing to fill at least 3 open dates in their football schedule for next year.

Those dates include weeks two, four and five, and that’s because Anahiem servite dropped them from their schedule. Interesting.

Anyway, the point here is that the pundits have been clamoring for Charter Oak to play a quality opponent because of the fact that they seem to be dodging Amat. Here is a great opportunity for them to do step up and show the SGV just how good they are without playing Amat in a game.

A game such as that would go along way to establish their claim (along with the SGV Tribunes) as being the top team in the Valley.

How about a shot of all the top seniors in the SGV? Its only fair

How about Licon rounding out the top 3 for ss? He is also fast, good hands and has a little bit of power. Dont push him to the curb so quick. SGV has some good Division 1 SS. 4 top players in the valley. Miers Pedroza Licon ibarra

Thanx for update Brahma Country! I cant wait for season to start as well as the softball season. I hear the girls could have a pretty good season this yr too! See ya in the stands!

Patrick, Diamond Bar looks good! It's being said, that DBAR has the two best returning pitchers in the Sierra League. Should be a exciting season. Urban's a top prospect with the Pro Scouts so will see how it goes.

Brahma country,

whats the scoop on the baseball team ??

how about san dimas
they came close last year what kind of team will they have this year

I'm all outside the fence, just another guy with an opinion, no more, no less. Agree? Fine. Not? I'm OK with that too, but reserve the right to respond.

If we ever meet on the sidelines we can compare CV's.

As for the Pedroza-Mier-Ibarra thing goes, only time will tell. College and MLB SS's are usually a bit bigger than Richie, and Ibarra for that matter. Mier on the other hand projects as a definite big league prospect at the position, quite probably in the money round.

BTW, hmmm, you may want to reread what I wrote. I didn't “compare a shortstop to a teams pitching staff” but was referring to ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PITCHER, however good he may be. That's what we were talking about anyway, right? My assertion was that a single position player, (usually a shortstop or catcher), can effect more games over the course of a typical HS season than can ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PITCHER can. It still is.

Diamond Bar has NEVER been on the cover why not Diamond Bar? D.B. has always been treated as the purple-headed step child, Give us some respect!

LP coach??

Great points Covering all bases. Don are you a High School Coach or former Coach? You act as if everything you say is gospel. Pitching is the heart and soul of baseball to compare a shortstop to a teams pitching staff is well....stupid.

Don,
I tend to agree with you on some things, but not the ss top 3.
Best upside- runs fast, hits for power is Jio, but a certain team from the North has his number don't they?

Good shortstop,but below the top 2 is Ibarra.

Best defensive SS right now without a doubt, Pedroza. He also hits too, but as a SS, not close.

Don, most "Ace" pitchers are also position players. If a head Coach isn't willing to name their "Ace" now a couple weeks before season....When will they?

Mean Joe Greene, Let Coaches name their "Ace" not Fred!

C.a.b.:

Thanks for the baseball primer, I'll try to remember.

While you are dismissing the everyday field players, you may want to consider that even the most dominant High School pitcher works only about 1/3 of his team's games, guy's like Miers and Ibarra effect the outcome of them all.

One of the problems with the pitcher thing is some teams don't have one, most have at least one they'll point to although just between you and me, the quality varies greatly. Some schools have two or even three and maybe the coach doesn't want to name one or the other as his “Ace” just yet.

Fred,

It's no secret pitching is the key but we don't need pitchers from every school. Why not pick your own top 5 pitchers from the SGV and put them on the cover.

How about the school logo's of all the teams that won CIF championships last year?

Don, the discussion is what should be on the cover page for the baseball opener. You can have the best shortstop in the world without pitching your shortstops look like every other player.When a team is pounding on your pitcher and balls are flying right thru your infield, does it really matter who's playing short?

Covering all bases:

Fred just did a best Pitcher deal last week, beat it to death. How about SS's, or Catchers, or best hitters?

Here's my top three Shortstops:

1.Jio Mier – Bonita

2.Christian Ibarra – South Hills

3.Rich Pedroza - Northview

Northview and Amat have good baseball teams. However, I AM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THEM!

Give NVHS the cover they deserve it!!! Anyways after this year they will be nobody!!!

Top pitcher from each team covers all bases I like that choice. Come on Don are you with me?

Northview? please they were on the cover of everything last year. Spare us all.Let's go with the #1 pitchers from each team in the SGV that way every school is covered and we get to see who the coaches feel are their best! Who do you think Coach Nieto from Amat will pick? not a senior :(

Fred,
The cover shot should be the team who finished # 1 in the final SGV baseball rankings of last year and it should also apply to softball . Hopefully no one can argue that point.

San Dimas had 3 guys on the cover couple years ago, South Hills isn't top 3, Northview beat Amat and Bonita and has so many good guys back...how about pic of the northview seniors who are on one of better runs as a class in sgv history.

It's Northview's time to have a lead cover...never have opened the season with a pic...I've seen amat, s. hills, san dimas, c. oak have it last 4 or 5 years and if they're the consensus #1, as I'd think is justifiable, they get it.

Or better yet why don't you put all the Seniors who are getting hosed at Amat on the cover.

Assuming your pre-season poll will have Northview, Amat, Bonita, South Hills and San Dimas in your top 5, why don't you put Pedroza, Arnold, Paez, Zuniga, Mier, Gelalich, Ibarra, Klena, Ponzo, and Leyland on the cover

“Don - I was on your side with the Amat comment but then you stepped over the line with the Northview comment. Only because I am a NV alum LOL. It should be a great baseball season in the SGV once again.
Posted by: viking town | January 28, 2009 2:27 PM “

Holy moley, a Northview fan with a sense of humor.

What will they think of next.

LOL

Diamond Bar is looking forward to a great baseball season.

Don - I was on your side with the Amat comment but then you stepped over the line with the Northview comment. Only because I am a NV alum LOL. It should be a great baseball season in the SGV once again.

I like the pitcher's on the cover. That's my vote.

Don, Are kidding? you must be!

BONITA will be more than only Mier and Gelalich. Expect to hear these names also: Nico Calderaro, Jason Plowman, Ryan Henley, Terry Paredez, Evan Highley, Ryan Mulick, Corey Hare and don't look now but there's another Gelalich (Matt) who's pretty good also. BONITA is a senior-led and senior-stacked team and Coach Knott will get the most out of them.

And, oh yeah, Northview will be good too. (duh)

Well, if you don't like the Amat idea, let's have something about Northview.

That would be a change.

Fred, are you going to give Diamond Bar any respect this year?

Who cares about Amat. Yesterdays news.

Go Cats, their was already a picture of that. I like top pitcher from each school and have the coach name the pitcher that way it's coming from the top not Dads from the blog.

How about
Mier
Gelalich
Pedroza
Arnold
Ponzo
Leyland
Zuniga
Licon
and any other seinors who have signed to play at a D1 school next season

Hey, how about something to do with Amat's opening day lineup. Bet nobody thought of that.

Just an idea.

How about a picture with every team in the SGV's #1 pitcher? What do you think?