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Is there any news from the front lines?

And no one has answered my question when was the last time the boys baseball fields were not prepped before a game?come on with all that is going on that is a joke.,,,,,,,,,,,,

If there is no guilt or no wrong doing then why I ask you are improvements starting to get done? because there is problems and much needed improvements that have been promised and promised from a long time ago.The women and female athletes of this community need to be treated as equals period.Trust me if there was no worries or neglect they wouldn't have put the portables in,trimmed the grass,trimmed the trees,fixed the plumbing leaks and put new dirt.They could have just left it the way it was horrible I might add but no there is 100% justification for all of it so get with it or get lost.Its time to make things right and take responsibility I am sure that every softball parent would pitch in and do plenty to help but what this program has been denied are the funds and support of the community.

Fred Honestly,

In all due time it will come.Your right La Verne has it better then most but the softball fields are still bad and have been neglected for some time, stop the excuses its time for someone to step up and do what is right.If you don't like what your hearing go to another blog we can care less find something else to do with your time.Were not worried about budgets and the economy this should have been taken care of a long time ago. Like we said before you can't deny it the field plans should have been completed when the football stadium was renovated its simple but no somebody dropped the ball.Your son going on a trip to where ever has nothing to do with the softball fields are you kidding me good for ms Reck not sure what that has to do with what we have been discussing hello.

Fred , honestly...doesn't La Venre have it better than 99.9999999% of the schools in the San Gabriel Valley?

I will tell a story that highlights La Verne dynamics and might shed light on this problem of people taking responsibility for their own problems.

Last year the my son was an 8th grader on a trip with over 120 kids to Washington DC. As luck would have it that was the same that American Airlines went on strike and all there planes were grounded. Imagine the horror of kids having to be rescheduled to flights to Houston, Denver, and all sorts of places ...instea dof Boston or DC???? and soemone had to coordinate all that ON THE SPOT!!!!!

Ramona Middle School teacher and coordinator Ms. Reck was an angel and a saviour to the kids, parents and everyone involved. She kept her cool, handled everything like a pro and never let on that things were as crazy as anything I've ever seen. My son had a great time and none of this would have happened with Mrs. Reck.

What did she get for her heroics....parents balling her out!!!!! Parents calling her to chew her out!!!! Parents who never even called to check in!!!! but gave her an earful...when she did an incredible job that would have broken most seasoned travelers. Did she get a Graduation THANK YOU FROM THE PARENTS AT GRADUATION DAY????...not a mention!!!

I don't know all the workings at Bonita or BUSD but anyone who takes the time to DEMAND more of OTHERS should start by DEMANDING MORE OF THEMSELVES.

Parents need to do more than complain about scorekeeping and nonsense like that....the toilets and field issues should never have gone on this long. Maybe instead of complaining and tearing 26 year veteran teachers a new one...just file your suit...Title IX is a fierce document that has real teeth in it so there is your answer...but you Bonita parents knew that all along.... didn't you?

School Boards and City Budgets are strained NOW but over the past 7 years when RE prices were high and money was flowing....WHY DIDN'T ANYTHING GET DONE????? Now it might be too late....file your suit and save everyone the embarrassment of tearing down hard working teachers and coaches because you feel 'underserved".

Some LV parents are just as spoiled as their kids...and that's saying something!

OMG...DON'T YOU HAVE ENOUGH ON YOUR PLATE THAN TO WORRY ABOUT THAN WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE FIELDS OF BONITA. EVERYONE IN THIS CITY THINKS THAT THEY OWN THE FIELDS AND THE GYM. THEN THE MESS IS LEFT FOR THE GROUNDSMAN OR THE LOCKER ROOM ATTENDANTS TO CONTEND WITH WHEN ALL IS DONE.
IF YOU ARE THAT CONCERNED GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING RESOURCEFUL TO MAKE IT THE WAY THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

A Football Communitty? Are you sure? A Football Community?

That has to be the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard. Bonita, and La Verne for that matter is far from a football community. A ton of kids who should play football choose water polo, soccer, basketball and baseball over it because the parents don't want little Johnny to get hurt.

La Verne is a football community. Yeah right! The University of La Verne can't even have lights on its field because the locals don't want lights on their street. O wait but I forgot, it's a football community.

BHSfan,

Let me tell you something if team 1 starts with $5000 dollars and team 2 starts with $1000 dollars the chances are team 1 will always have $4000 more. 1x-2x=4000 2x=crap.

Lets open the books and see how what was paid for in regards to all the boys sports on campus and compare notes and equality if all is square there's nothing to worry about? whether the city or district paid for it is not the issue you do for one you do for both.Lets just teach the boys since they will be the main providers of there family's anyways right.

BHSfan
Your as dumb as they come if you seriously believe the football field was renovated to serve soccer purposes, Like Fred said" why do they need so many soccer fields on campus then? you tell me who is getting what from ayso? Remember this is a Glenn Davis football community.

Always
you asked a great question that needs to be answered immediately?
Fred are you out there are you reading this?

BHSFan
you have continually missed the point School district or City it doesn't matter all it does make them both liable for Title IX, raking the fields and mowing the grass oh my.

Nice score board, nice fence and foul pole looks like dodger stadium compared to the girls I bet the boys don't have to worry about how the fields are gonna get done.When was the last time the fields weren't prepped before a game give me break your as clueless as the rest of them.Typical of La Verne always learns things the hard way.

The renovation of the football field came from city money and not out of the district budget. You are also forgetting that it also serves as a boys and girls soccer field as well.

And once again, that field belongs to the CITY OF LA VERNE, not the school. Baldwin Park and West Covina have turf fields as well, but those fields belong to the school and not the city which is why they are kept in better condition. People are not allowed on those fields, but since Bonita's belongs to La Verne and not the school, it is open to the public just like the baseball field and other soccer fields.

While those who have mentioned that the baseball field is a temple compared to the softball field, that is strictly on the softball program. The reason the baseball field looks so nice is because the kids work on it before and after every practice. Just the other day I saw coach Knott mowing the infield lawn. The baseball team also has a field day before the season in order to make it look nice and parents get involved as well. Coach Knott has done a great job with that field. It was disasterous before he got there. And guess what, his field is used by a ton of other programs as well.

No sport receives more money from the district than another sport. They all receive an equal amount of money and the rest is fundraised. Even football gets the same amount of money as tennis. Football, however, will usually raise the most fundraised money simply because of their large numbers, but football also needs more money since each kid is required to wear hundreds of dollars worth of equipment.

The baseball team's facility is nice because Knott, the boys, and the parents take a great deal of pride in it and have fundraised their tails off in addition to putting in the actual manual labor. It is not because baseball is favored by the district over softball.

After each game and practice, the kids stay around for an extra 30 minutes or so doing field maintenance.

exactly. this is the first we have heard that there were plans but money ran out.why wasnt the softball fields added to the bond measure? now the priority is the basketball gym. and parents are fundraising. car washes, snack bar, rummage sales, fundraising at local restaurants. where is that money going?

knowing the plans were never completed because of funds. When the football field renovation was being discussed did Sponge Pod or Kitty mention the unfinished work at Las Flores Park I think not.Guilty as charged !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!let us ask why? we know the truth because know one cares about female sports and equality shame shame shame shame on you Bonita unified.

holkfan
who you calling fat? I'm pretty sure i know who you are and have you looked in the mirror lately lol.We can only hope that kens philosophy isn't the same as holk's (neglect)and we do donate money every year its called tax dollars just look at your LV water bill.

holkfan
you must be that special friend of hers that explains the anger but save it for someone who cares and the AD is responsible for making sure the fields are prepped hello.Personally we can careless if she ever keeps score again now explain all the neglect that has been done here for the past 5 or more years did she at least put up a little fight for the program? I think not, and why would she wait 4months to hire a new coach and put ken in a whole right off the bat he has said it himself on numerous occasions. The only one crying here is you do us favor and go cry us a river somewhere else we may need it this summer lol.Truly is this all you got I would expect more from you this was a little weak and thanks for the info on the plans we can use that information later on.It Just goes to show you instead of completing the original plans for the softball fields they go ahead and spend millions of dollars on the football field, well that's smart and fair keep it coming the more information you can give us the better.

go give your speech to someone who cares.blah blah blah blah blah

It doesnt matter because complaining wont change the lightbulb Teamwork does!
I am finally writing a response to this rubbish. I am completely disgusted with “parents” (or should I say cry babies) comments attitudes and behaviors regarding Miss Holk. I have decided to make myself anonymous (as all of you chickens have done) and dish back your cowardice so you can see how ridiculous, selfish, pious and judgmental you are being. You silly yakking women with nothing better to do, did you think that your comments are going to make things better? You think insulting another person is going to make them do a song and dance for you almighty?
First, I have known Miss Holk for 15yrs. Have you? (Or are you just there for 4 yrs for your daughter not the program) She has given her heart and soul to Bonita Bearcats for 26 yrs. She has gone over and beyond her normal duties as an Athletic Director, coach, department chair and teacher. She is the most contentious instructor I have ever met. Just because she is not keeping score (and trust me, that was a difficult decision for her to make)…OH and yes, DB is a great friend as is Ken. So stay out of her business that you know nothing of. She stepped back this season for reasons that are none of yours or anyone’s business. Ken knows she is his number one support and if HE has a problem, be assured; he will be the first to go to her. And to respond to the accuracy of the scorebook…If you have an issue with it, then go to Ken and talk to him about it. He is ultimately the one responsible for all stats…don’t forget there were 2 parents on that board that hired him…I am certain he was the best choice for the job because HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!!!
Funny thing now that after 26 long years of late hours, weekends, games, tournaments, coaching 25yrs Varsity, JV and Frosh Soft Field Hockey, Tennis, Softball and Volleyball, teaching, booster meetings, awards, banquets, etc. etc, etc. You want to find fault with her for not scorekeeping for the girl’s softball team? Does anyone pay her to do that? She has kept score on and off over the years. She attends numerous games in spite of having to attended swim meets, track meets, tennis, and baseball during the softball season.
This is the first year in 26 yrs she has not coached, instead she has this year just completed 12 required university units that the California Education department just implemented. Imagine that. Working full time, being the required Miramonte League secretary this year and teaching an overload of classes, driving 1 hour each direction to work, doing upper level college courses and still finding the time to invest in Bonita Athletics not just softball. Should she shed blood for you ingrates? Shame, Shame, Shame on you cowards for not helping to volunteer a hand. You see a need. FIX IT YOURSELF.
Further what makes you think Miss Holk is in charge of field preparation? She is not the Maintenance supervisor and furthermore, she has no authority to order the maintenance around. She reports to their supervisor when things are amiss however she is not their supervisor. You are barking up the wrong tree. You should contact the administration office and talk to the maintenance department supervisor if you want the fields redone. And another furthermore, she used to coach back in the day on a grass field on campus (is that what you want your daughters playing on?) She was the sole person that requested that the infields be skinned and finally moved the fields to Los Flores park. (Do any of you really care why?) The facility at Las Flores (ask to see the original plans) was never completed due to budget constraints, (again not Miss Holk’s fault) but there are plans in the works, so if you want some better fields maybe you can donate some money and time (It might help your fat asses if you do some exercise and get the field done yourself) just like the baseball support parents do. to get this done sooner. Oh…. Of course you wanted Ms Holk to pay for this? How about she works on her weekends away from her family and does the work herself. I get it.
Oh and by the way I am just getting started. Miss Holk is whose puppet??? You got that all wrong. But who has got time for that absurd comment. She has been the AD for 21 yrs., so who do you think is whose puppet? And you think Coach Podley doesn’t care about any other sports besides football. You people are pieces of work. If any of you even knew. And no, he is not the “boy’s AD.” That is not how the two of them have it split up. And have you been to baseball games, tennis matches, basketball games, wrestling matches or field hockey games? If you had, you would have seen him there too. They are a team; they are friends, they work together to solve problems…TO BETTER THE ENTIRE ATHLETIC PROGRAM. NEITHER IS MORE FOR ONE GENDER OR THE OTHER. If you knew either of them, you would choke on those words. You ask me “How do you know this?” Because I wasn’t a coward. I personally talked with both Miss Holk and Mr. Podley regarding your silly comments. I decided to get the facts first.
Oh and let’s talk about her lack of support for the softball coach, what’s his name, Ken oh yes she has followed him for years outside of Bonita coaching, She was more than enthusiastic about hiring him as the Bonita coach. As a matter of fact she shares the same philosophy and if you ask him he might choose to bite his tongue towards your stupidity or he might just tell you again how stupid you are. Oh maybe you think he is an idiot too?
So anytime you want to choke your ignorant words back and apologize we are all ears.
Remember, once a Bearcat always a Bearcat. A true Bearcat is not a lazy complaining sniveling coward.
From another AD/coach/athlete/teacher/Parent/administrator

wow, look at that! the fence, beautiful grass and even a working scoreboard.must be nice.

Dear Fred,
I was just reminded again today in the differences between what the boys play on and what the girls do.Go to bonitasports.com and look a the picture of the boys baseball field on the front page remember that picture now go to the girls field at Las Flores park open your eyes and what do you see.WHAT A JOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Somebody please make this administration pay for this injustice.Parents,people,players and women in general you should be matter then hell right now.This should not be tolerated any more we have to stand up for what is right and for what needs to change.Please whoever is in control here and wrote the anonymous letter follow through and do something fast before it gets swept under the rug again for the 3rd time.

fan1, why do you guys always have to read more into what someone says than is really there??? what i was clearing up was the comments on this blog and freds article was not the reason for the toilets, they have been there for weeks. way before fred started this blog on the 17th. someone on this blog or another while back mentioned thanks to the coach for getting the portables. that they have never been provided at field in the past and the team could no longer use the bathrooms at the school next door. now if this blog is the reason for the grass being mowed and trees trimmed. thats great.

fan,
well kudos to the coach I see you two obviously have a connection. no one else huh'

the portable toilets have been there for few weeks, before the talk on this blog.. thanks to the efforts of the head coach and no one else..

ITS A PROUD DAY TO BE A LA VERNIAN "

Finally much appreciated progress,since the anonymous letter and blogger s mentioning of the fields followed by Fred's Do the right thing blogathon improvements are now starting to show.

1. Portable toilets are now in place

2. The grass and edging has been done regularly

3. Water and trainers at games

4. And As of today the Trees in the outfield are now trimmed.

5. Police patrols have been seen at the park

Wish list: Tarps over the dugouts
Home run fences
Ada compliance/wheel chair access

while i appreciate podleys efforts, i dont really expect anything from him because yes, his priority is the boys, as it should be . the question is why is the girls AD, in this case for softball , Kit Holk, not working on getting fences or anything else?? someone else mentioned how she is not even involved in softball by keeping score anymore. whether that is in her job title or not, she has done it for years but stopped this year. One would think she would be willing to show her support for new coach by continuing to keep score or anything. we have all seen her at a few games, so she is around.

BHSFan

from what I have been told in the past sponge pod is the main AD that over sees everything kitt is just a puppet and she must go through him first.How ever somebody is slacking over there from the brass on down to the guy that does the fields.

Fan,

Podley's job description is to be the boy's AD so for him to put even the slightest effort in the girls shows that he is willing to help. Softball is not a sport that he oversees. Neither is volleyball or soccer etc., but he shows support even though he is already the boys AD and the head football coach.

fan2 , i know podleys interests is in boys only. i dont expect much to happen with the girls fields. a group of parents going to a busd school board meeting and getting on the agenda is a good idea..

Fan,

Mr sponge pod only cares about the boys you know that.Looks like they may be trimming the trees today we can only hope the attention continues.

yes, said they are looking into what needs to be done though money is an issue. said mr.podley is looking into some sources for funding for outfield fencing.

fan

did the big dog email you back or is he still in denial?

half hour ago I emailed bonita high principal asking him first, are there any plans,( since all this came to light in the tribune), for the girls softball fields and as a parent what i can do to help. i encourage all who care to do the same thing.

Lets be real’

Bonita’s Administration can careless about the girls softball program just ask sponge Pod all they care about are the Boys sports period if they don’t become wise to the reality of this situation the residents of La Verne and the community will have to pay dearly for years in tax dollars to defend and eventually settle a compromise with the title IX issues. Next in line is ADA how is a handicap parent or fan supposed to get to the fields to watch a game? Some of you seem to down play what is really happening here when was the last time the fields were not prepped for a boys baseball game? No matter how it appears to you it is clearly discriminatory against the female athletes of Bonita High School. Forget the economy the situation should have never come to this point. Kitt & Sponge new about this for years and have done nothing they can care less go ahead parents step in and start volunteering your time and why your at it start teaching in the class room and cleaning the bathrooms its all good lol.Until the district receives that knock at the door from the man with the paper that says you are now served they sit in waiting with a thumb up their a$$.Freds little Do the right thing blog is just the tip of the ice berg for whats to come.

unfortunately, some take this blog way to seriously obviously bonita coach does.for most like me, just a little entertainment during the work day.yeah and someone in the softball program should go talk to the baseball program. those people have done a great job. whoever it is there parents or coaches, dont know.

to funny-here is a positive comment for you, fred just ranked bonita #2 ABOVE LA....way to go bearcats.

well asking his parents to stay off blogs was a long shot .but guessing he was just looking for them to stop badmouthing each other and players. other than someones problem with score keeper i dont see them trashing players anymore.parents are always going to snipe at each other.no one takes this blog too seriously do they??

well bonita will have to learn from this year and focus their efforts next on the fields and whatever else needs to be done.sounds like you guys have done a lot of fundraising.but realistically, no one is going to do anything with fields now, season almost over.yeah problems like restrooms , plumbing those things need to be taken care of now and cant be done by parent volunteers, that is up to busd and city to hash out.but no one wants to do field maintenance now to have it destroyed before next season starts.

Ok, clear up a few things first. AD does not have time to keep score anymore, and it is not her job anyway. Student is doing a great job, and all scores/stats are approved by coaching staff. Now back to more important issues. Someone should talk with the baseball program and see how they are so successful with their sponsorship program. Maybe softball could follow the same sponsorship outline?

Hey Coach Carlson - how is that ban on posting on this blog working out for you. hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

positive comments? where are all the ones before mine? it is all complaints and suggestions. i dont see too many positive ones. and mine is not whining as much as defending all those who are asking why bonita parents are not taking responsibility for their field conditions. as a former bonita parent i take exception with those thinking parents are lazy and dont want to do anything. all i can say is we did not have these kinds of problems with parents during my daughters years playing softball. just stating facts.

Too bad Bonita, you were on a roll there with actual positive comments before the whining started again with "Former Parent".

while things are not perfect, for most, at least on varsity we are staying focused on our girls.we certainly do not want anything to take away from the great job they are doing.we are proud of them and how together with their coach have turned bonita softball around. Great Job girls...

the question is why after years of keeping score for softball she is no longer this year?everyone knows how much the AD was a supporter of last head coach. so is she not keeping score because after all these years she no longer has time or is she pouting because former coach left?? while i am sure no one has a problem personally with new scorekeeper the parents who are commenting have valid concerns.
and you are wrong, bonita has alot of parents willing to help who have offered and offered only to be turned away.
while the new coach is doing a great job, he has utilized only some volunteers while ignoring other parents more than willing to help out. this is how i hear it went.
first coach/parent meeting,a handful of parents wanting to make a great impression, in his face saying "pick me, pick me" which really translates into "pick my kid" convinced coach to let them head this and that committee. the coach i am sure is thinking "wow, i have all this great help" but as he knows no one and their agenda, he did not realize, by doing this, he was shutting out so many parents willing to help. for example, because he is new he did not know that tradition at bonita has always been the senior parents plan the banquet. but not knowing this he hands off to the first volunteer who is a freshman parent, who in turn, has shut out the senior parents.
they have parents in the program and not just varsity , who are former and current board members, for ayso, laverne asa and little league and high school coaches who are not being used,even though they have years and years of experience and yes connections which could be uitilized for bonitas benefit. these are parents who have offered their help with anything including the fields, scorekeeping.
but by the time these other parents asked coach if they could volunteer in anyway they have been ignored or they were told there was a committee for that job , see that parent. well these parents have been shut out by those elite few parents who, want the coach to think they are doing all the work so their kid deserves all the playing time. and yeah bonita no different, always parents on here complaining but not willing to do any work.i went to their car wash, as always ,same parents working while same parents no where to be found.
so maybe the whining parents, as some like to call them are the ones frustrated by the lack of work being done when they have offered and offered. the program has a great group of core parents wanting better things for their girls. but their hands are tied by administration, money and a small group of parents running the show.In this economy the district is not going to pay for anything extra and frankly they shouldnt when teachers are losing their jobs so it is up to the individual program to make their fields or whatever better.but until the coach steps in and takes his team back from these parents it will never happen.

I agree with the last several comments. Maybe this blog should be called "It's time for the parents at Bonita to get involved".

Hey Don't Worry -

Very well said.

Fan4 -

You have to be kidding. You really expect the AD to come and keep score at the softball games. What a joke. Something tells me scorekeeping is not in her job description. The coach needs to get someone qualified to do the job and as Basic says, this is not really the point of this blog.

Don't worry Basic, it is only the whining parents that seem to have an awful experience no matter where they go. The new coach is working hard to keep this program on the right track. He is trying to do exactly what needs to be done to have a successful program next year, by doing a ton of fundraising, conditioning and great workouts, etc. Everyone of course wants great things to happen at our home fields, but unfortunatley they think it is going to come by someone just handing it to us. That is not going to happen, especially in this economy with all the cut backs the district is dealing with right now. We have to work hard as parents to get all of the improvements we are looking for. And that means all of the parents have to get involved, not just a handful. Nobody hands the baseball program anything, those parents all work their butts off to have the successful program they do. Boosters will tell you that the baseball program has one of the largest sponsorship programs in the school, and that is because the parents make sure it happens. Softball parents all need to do the same and get involved regardless if they love the coach or if their daughter is the star of the team or not.

WTF???

Really? is this what we are talking about now, the score keeper??? I thought this story was about the fields and the dangers they pose to the girls!!!

All I kep hearing is bitching and no Ideas being brought up to help make changes. Yes I bitch too but hopefully not about any kids but rather about making it better for the kids, coaches can take criticism, programs can as well but kids should not have.

I keep coming back to this story hoping to read "hey we are having a clean-up day, or a field day on such and such" so I can volunteer and have my kids there as well or better yet a BONITA day to help in what we can because I know it's not just softball that needs help, but instead I read about the score keeper who I assume is a student, someone's daughter, and is HELPING....this is rediculous and frustrating and I hope that when my own daughters attend things are a little better. But from what I hear, the minute you say anything you are "black-balled"

Let's see Fan4, I don't know what the AD is doing, maybe teaching her 8th period PE class?? From what I have seen the AD is also trying to make her rounds to all of the other spring sports she is over. Why do you people continue to make all of these stupid comments when you have no idea what you are talking about. Almost every sport at Bonita or any other high school has student scorekeepers. Sounds like some whiny parents, probably all of the same parents who think they can coach better, umpire better, and probably even play better themselves than any one else. Funny though, I never see any of them being asked to coach, umpire or play! I guess they are not as superior as they think! And as Really said, you need to at least change your screen names, because you are not fans! Maybe whiners would be more appropriate.

Good point Really.

Here is the dictionary's definition of fan, pretty sure we are not seeing any of this by the people who are responding on this blog.

1 : an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator

2 : an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit)

Do any of you know what the definition of Fan is? It does not include the bashing of teeneagers, players, parents, coaches or administrators. So all of you so called fans need to get a life and grow up. A Fan is someone who supports someone or some thing. Supporting doesn't mean only when you are getting what you want or things go exactly as you wish. To support you actually have to be helpful and positive. Do any of you know how to do that? Guess what, Bonita is having a great season with a great turn around from last year. Obviously someone is doing something right for these girls this year.

Hey Scorekeeper
please enlighten us on what better things the AD has to do with her time. She obviously is not taking care of the female athletes of Bonita High school.If anything all she has done is make things worse for them. Its amazing how the faculty thinks if they show up to a game or two this will solve the problems give me break.I hope who ever is pulling the strings here on this blog is willing to go all the way and put a for all stop to this injustice.

The score keeper is a joke about time someone brought this to light. Parents and especially siblings do not have the experience to make good judgment on hits and errors.When there's an error on a play and a question on which player gets the error we all know the score keepers kid won't get the error lol.

Hey Fred,

You would think Bhs would have learned something by now but obviously not.My wife just called me and said the fields are a joke and it appears no one showed up to do the frosh game today. Wow get a clue AD how much more will it take for someone to take charge or make some changes over there.

r u kidding....we r now complaining about who keeps score at the games. Just for the record, boys baseball has teenagers doing it also. Who cares....if you don't like the job she is doing, then do it yourself or the coach should just replace her. I am sure the BHS AD has much better things to do with her time then to attend every varsity game and keep freaking score....she does have a life. Oh man, this is comical!!!1

ok, calm down.just an observation but it is typical of all the garbage going on at bonita.meaning, if AD would be keeping score,which she has done for years then wouldnt be necessary to hand the job to a teenager, who is un-qualified. and yeah and I am sure she is keeping score and listening to music on her ipod at same time.why is AD not involved anymore??doesnt matter what it is , either fields or whatever ,there is never any consistency in the support of girls programs at bonita.along with the girls i feel sorry for the coaches who give their time for little money and probably feel like they are banging their heads against the wall for support, money and help from the district and administration at school.I doubt their softball coach signed up for field maintenence.. do the basketball coaches have to maintain the gym??my point exactly.

Seriously FAN, does it really make you feel better to trash a high school kid? Especially in a public forum? I will never understand adults who go around talking crap about other peoples kids. Oh and by the way there is an application for softball scorekeeping for the Ipod.

Fred thanks for giving us a place to vent and learn a little...

Everyone at Bonita and LV as a whole needs to step up and try to do what we can to HELP and not just complain. Like I said a few days back, how about having a community clean up day or a Bonita day, to help with the fields and anything else we might need? How about having those Saturday school kids work on some of these things instead of having them sit there? ask some of the teams/associations that these fields are used by to help...Advertise the C**P out of it and have a huge turnout. However, this should not only be about the softball teams but about Bonita as a whole. I do have a girl coming there next year and another one in a few years so yes I want the girls to get theirs but the boys should as well, I heard the wrestling team does not even have a wrestling room, and the weight room, like I said before, could really use some help to bring it up to speed and have it available to EVERYONE (hey even the cheerleaders need to be strong to do all the amazing things they do). SO how about strat throwing some ideas out there to HELP and try not to complain as much...

Having been able to vent and throw my two cents up, I must say that if the girls are in any sort of Danger (from trees or having to walk there or lack of bathrooms)something MUST be done NOW!!!

Anyway, thanks for giving us this forum Fred.

Ps. I hope someone from the city is hearing these complains cause if you're not (from what I've read here before) be ready to deal with an angry mob question what you are doing to help their kids (BTW this is not a threat, before I get in any sort of trouble, I just mean that if my daughters were in danger I'd be there).

Title IX

the football field is used as much by girls as by boys

during fall football spends the most time

during winter both boys and girls soccer both practice up there

during spring track and field its coed

during summer football spends 1pm-7pm on the field

you can say football which is a guys sport has the most time on the field but they also raise the most money out of any sport which goes to cleaning the field and they spend the most time cleaning the field

yea softball doesn't have the best conditions but it could be worst and if they really wanted to fix it then they could do fundraisers and fix it up

Read Dons comments it appears that Don just hates women and has a problem with little girls. Somebody please identify this discriminating pig.

City Help,

Well lets talk about that the city spends millions on a football stadium and track. How did that really benefit the girls? Boys have first dibs on the field its a football stadium for crying out loud.

How much was spent on the girls programs?

case closed.

hey good idea.fire some administration keep some teachers.and yeah the AD should be the first to go.she claims to care but has done nothing for the program in years.she at least use to keep score but left after her bff DB quit the program.she doesnt support the new coach.now they are left with a student/sister of kiss $$$ parents/player to be the new score keeper, when daddy cant be there.what a joke.doesnt know a foul ball from an error.more interested in her ipod than the scorebook.come on score keeper pay attention to the game. and dont get to excited the only reason all the bigwigs showed up to the DR game at home other day was because some smart person on this blog asked why they had not been. guarantee you ,they wont show their faces again.saw asst coach finally showed up to the game.what was the occasion? doesnt matter if it is the fields, uniforms, whatever, the girls always get the short end of the stick. you dont see boys parents on here complaining. why? because they have nothing to complain about.

Basic said:

The football field is own by BUSD. The city of La Verne has a facilites uses agreement and manages the field and takes care of it. The BUSD doesn't have the money in the budget for fields, and the City of La Verne paid for the football field. Everyone should begin to take this up with the City officials to see what can be done.

fbfan said:
The other thing is this: Bonita Unified is in the process of laying off some very high qualified teachers therefore if they can't keep their own employees then it would be pretty tough to create greater facilities.

Keep the teachers and fire the AD's,lazy principle and of course Rapkin himself for letting it get this bad. Put those salaries together and we save some good teachers.

just a fan
You wouldn't see the inequality but there is plenty. Have you not been reading fk the economy the fields should have stayed on campus period.Pay now or pay big time later.

Fred,

The field looked ok? Are you kidding me you have know idea how long that field took to get ready for this season.The City says it laser leveled the field right after they dropped the dirt huh stupid! all the air was still in the dirt what they did was throw away $1000.00 three days later it rained for a week flooding the fields and completely unleveling the fields and who do you think fixed the problem of course the parents it took three weeks of hard work to get those fields playable and they are still hard as a rock with the cheap dirt that was used.All of this was done mostly by hand and a car they had no mule WTF.I bet the boys didn't have to worry about this crap.

Just a fan
you are clearly byes towards the boys there is no comparison the girls have been screwed for to long all of these complaints are for real there are plenty of informed facts that will continue to come out. Throwing it out here to the public is a great thing the School District and the City truly need to take this issue seriously.The administration has had there chance to handle it but have chosen to do so with empty promises.

Snivel huh' Don tell me when and where and we will see who snivels first a$$ whole

Don,

Boneheads huh' trust me there's money always is if they were smart they would negotiate right now throw the program a bone maybe five grand make some much needed improvements and put a bill on the docket next year to put the fields back on campus. If they don't do this it will cost them a fortune in litigation and we all know who wins then the blood sucking sharks.

Your right ULV does have to travel to wheeler park and yes they too are not in compliance with title ix this neglect is exactly what title ix was intended to prevent.And Don to answer your question the softball program does receive a whopping $500.00 from the district every year just the right amount to buy some game balls.

There's no excuse period everything said in the letter to the district is true and multiplied x 2 and at some point the fields will revert back to a horrible condition. We can only hope not now that attention has been brought up here. The bottom line is every school must be in compliance with title nine ULV is going through the same issue in fact last I heard they received an F rating. The dogs will come out to bonita and when they do the young ladies of bonita will have their say. You tell me what else was supposed to be done how many times must you complain internally and see no effort what so ever to rectify the problem. Not until you force somebodies hand will a solution be found and hopefully the end result are new fields for the girls softball program. They never should have been moved off campus in the first place, there's no doubt some heads need to fly here somebody has neglected this issue for sometime no more this will go all the way to the end if need be.

You know Basic, I like the way you think. Ideas instead of scapegoating. Answers rather than complaints. The planet needs more folks like you.

The short answer to the maintenance question is that the fields are kept up by the city who in return receive fees paid by the LVSDJAA, LVSDAYSO, Lazers, Lutheran, pretty much anyone with a name that begins with an L. These organizations pledge then to clean up after games and practices, but if you have been around a bit, you know most aren't so red hot at this part of the deal.

The other side of this of course, are the amazing numbers of people who use these fields. I don't know how many kids the football guys have, but they practice enough teams during the season so that the parents cars fill the parking lot down to the tennis courts. Commie kick ball is even more crowded with hundreds of kids in their own little clusters bouncing off each other while the adult volunteers try to shepherd them into some kind of order.

Best places for fields, (need two right? No softballer left behind), lower field, SW corner facing east, or the next to the tennis courts, last would be on top, next to the Varsity BB field; east, northeast orientation, don't you know.

to continue my ranting...

Just a fan, in comment #4 you say:

"Both teams have use of 2 city fields that they largely maintain on their own (to the benefit of other youth organizations such as LVLL, AYSO, ASA, and even another local private school)."

So why not have these other organizations step up and help? Sign contracts to help maintain ALL the fields (at least the ones they use) which includes the football field with LVSD pop warner, and club teams. If everone benifits from these fields why shouldn't EVERYONE maintain them???

Just a fan,

Thanks for confirming, and I agree that not much can be done, BUT certain things can be and should be done.

How about letting the girls play on the upper field? yes they would encounter ome of the same issues (bathrooms) but not the DANGERS of trees and such.

Why not have an LV clean-up day, specially with Earth Day coming up? I know this is a little lame but I would volunteer myself and family, afterall my little ones play at these parks and will be atending Bonita soon enough, so it would more than just the softball team.

Have some the Saturday school kids do some cleaning while they are there.

Now getting a Booster or two would go a long way but I just think that there are things that CAN be done without so much money...

And by the way it's not just the fields, the wrestling team does not have a room and the weight room, at least that's what they call it, is a joke compare to some of the upper programs...

anyway, thanks for letting me vent a little in here and maybe get some ideas into the right people

Fred - this has the potential to be a very volatile subject and it would have been nice to have some informed facts before carelessly throwing the subject out there for public debate on the blog.

1) Las Flores is a hop, skip and jump away from the campus...not that big of a burdon to get there from the high school...literally just around the block...probably a 5 minute walk or so.

2) Where would you have the boys play. Their fields are much larger than the girls and their location is probably the only place in LV for them to play. Knowing the layout, I am not sure you could fit a softball field on the soccer or field hockey fields, but I could be wrong. In any event, Las Flores already exists and has the potential be a nice facility so spending funds converting another property is probably not the best use of money, especially, in this environment. La Verne is a nice community, but please know that is feeling the effect of the economy too and has very little funds for park improvements.

3) Both the baseball and softball fields are owned by the city. BHS does not have the property to house the facilities.

4) Both the softball and baseball programs receive very little funds from BUSD, so the parents raise the funds necessary for improvements. The softball program has been working very hard to raise the cash for needed upgrades to their facility and they should be commended...their coach and parents are doing a great job revitalzing the program. Both teams have use of 2 city fields that they largely maintain on their own (to the benefit of other youth organizations such as LVLL, AYSO, ASA, and even another local private school). Like Las Flores, the baseball fields are subject to use by the general public who leave their trash to be picked up by the bseball players during the week.

5) Boys don't have bathrooms either, other than the portable ones by the tennis courts.

6) Each community maust make due with the property constraints in their district. Even the ULV softball team must travel to Wheeler Park to play. Like all communiteis, there are limited resources (property and funds)available in LV.

Not sure what the purpose of this blog was, but given the facility constraints that exist within LV, I really don't see too much of an ineqality between the 2 programs. At the end of the day, given the lack of financial support available to high school athletics, the players, coaches, and parents of both programs will be responsible for their own facilities.

Basic, of course is right. I think I pointed this out in a related thread.

San Dimas has a similar arrangement at their “Sportplex” although the physical layout leaves the ball fields directly adjacent to the SDHS campus rather than across the wash as is Bonita's.

“enjoys a good game said:
Alhambra fiasco,what do you mean? Please enlighten us. Why shouldn’t females have the same type of fields as their counterparts? Have you even seen those beautiful fields? “

Ahhhh, finally a rational question; posed clearly, with punctuation and spell check.

The Moor Field thing was a fiasco in the sense that it cost three times what it should have and the only real winners weren't the softball players of Alhambra, but the lawyers. I was there last year and the thing still wasn't completed despite over $1,000,000.00 already spent. I wouldn't be the one to call this a boondoggle,but there are some Alhambra taxpayers who do.

Now that Freddie has gone into the investigative journalism biz, he might want to contact the City Attorney over there, (I think his name is Montes), and have him pull the hours billed to finally have this thing adjudicated.
Besides that, Moor Field is off campus over a mile away from Alhambra High School on 8th St between Shorb and San Marino Ave. That's a lot further than the Las Flores fields are from BoHi. In the spirit of fairness, the Baseball team gets to bus to home games too.
Of course the girls are entitled to everything the boys get, that's why I'd be willing to bet the Softball team receives at least as much money from Bonita Unified as does the Baseball Team. That's fair, that's just, and as pointed out here in several ways, mandated by the US Supreme Court.

Not confirmed but Fred Ia m sure you can use all your high contacts for this.....

Sorry to tell you but the fields, yes including the footbal field, is NOT Bonita's, it's the city's. Well the football field is a joint venture so BUSD does own 50% of it but as far as the Baseball fields or any other fields they belong to the city (Sportplex) technically they are not even on school grounds. Therefore, ANYONE can use these fields with the proper permit and sometimes without. Because these fileds are not on school grounds or own by BUSD they "rent" them out which forces the girls to go play elsewhere.

Hopefully bringing some light to this situtation will force some change...

Again, not confirmed but you can check it out yourself....

i realize now why i haven't been able to get across to you people so thanks for the lesson. As for the game yesterday, i was there since i felt i needed to see the living hell your girls are subjected to saw the homerun, missed the near catastrophe due to the tree limb. Also saw the fields which looked to me like softball fields but missed the mosquitoes and the only “Fly's” I saw looked playable. Anyhow you boneheads are so caught up with me you fail to see the truth in what i'm telling you, there is no money, they won't build you a field before your little girls have graduated and moved out of the house and gone on to make little softball players of their own. Wake up and raise the dough yourselves, that's what everyone else did. Find some parents will contacts and energy to go out and find some deep pocket sponsors for your cause. You have at least two or three swell spots which i am sure the district would be delighted to see you develop but no, you would rather snivel and complain about bums and tree branches. As for having a soccer field in right field on the baseball field, find the bohi BB field on google maps click down close and even a myopic mental midget can see the soccer field is in left field not right the field in right is for the field hockey team. Since you are so comfortable calling people names i'll tell you what a rotten parent you are for teaching your darking daughter to kvetch and whine rather than do something about a problem. yeah great life lesson mom can't wait to see how she does when something serious comes up. sure la verne is a prosperous community so are san dimas, glendora, and claremont all of whom are experiencing record revenue losses, layoffs and foreclosures, go cut the damn tree branch off yourself if it presents a danger. Quit waiting for big brother to save day and quit pretending like anyone else has a better deal than you it's been like this since 1978 and it ain't gonna get any better anytime soon. Sviveling whining knotheads.hope that this is easier for you to read in your own style.

Las Flores park is used by several people which isn't a great situation, but all of the facilities at Bonita High School (football field, soccer fields, baseball fields, tennis courts, basketball gym) are used by the communitty whether it's little league, AYSO or other recreational activities and that causes the facilities to be in a lesser condition.

Even if there was a softball field on campus, I'm sure it would be used by other organizations within the community. From my understanding, this is more of a city thing than it is a district thing, but I may be mistaken. I know that all sports have to do a ton of fundraising like Don mentioned earlier.

The other thing is this: Bonita Unified is in the process of laying off some very high qualified teachers therefore if they can't keep their own employees then it would be pretty tough to create greater facilities.

Alhambra fiasco,what do you mean? Please enlighten us. Why shouldn’t females have the same type of fields as their counterparts? Have you even seen those beautiful fields?
Title IX has been around for years, is Bonita out of compliance? There is also a State Bill signed by Governor Schwarzenegger, with the same affect for municipalities. They must also provide the same number of fields to female athletics, as they do to for boys programs. So if you’ve got 3 baseball fields, they must provide 3 softball fields.

Women's athletics have come a long way, unfortunately they still have a way to go to be considered equal and fair. But please do explain you use of fiasco, when beautiful facilities were built to provide and opportunity for an” equal playing field.” I’d really like to know what you know that we don’t know.

Alhambra fiasco,what do you mean? Please enlighten us. Why shouldn’t females have the same type of fields as their counterparts? Have you even seen those beautiful fields?
Title IX has been around for years, is Bonita out of compliance? There is also a State Bill signed by Governor Schwarzenegger, with the same affect for municipalities. They must also provide the same number of fields to female athletics, as they do to for boys programs. So if you’ve got 3 baseball fields, they must provide 3 softball fields.

Women's athletics have come a long way, unfortunately they still have a way to go to be considered equal and fair. But please do explain you use of fiasco, when beautiful facilities were built to provide and opportunity for an” equal playing field.” I’d really like to know what you know that we don’t know.

Let the Tag name Stonelessfred rest in piece I will no longer be using this name.Fredismyhero is now my new tag name. Way to go Freddy boy Bonita should do the right thing!

Robert K,

I truly doubt the administration has taken this a wee bit serious before.They are the ones aka(kit) who moved the fields off campus in the first place and have no doubt turned the other cheek for years.I am starting to question what kind of deal has been made with the soccer community to have so many fields and first priority over the student body of Bonita High School something is starting to look fishy here? If you ask me The Kit should hit the fan oh" I mean sht.

Fred,

The issues that Donsanidiot mentioned are true and should seriously be looked at what are you comments on those? Also you have been their and seen the trees in play and the soccer goal in right have you ever seen a boys baseball field with this many obstacles.

Why try and down play it did you read the letter sent to the school district? you have no idea how bad these fields get at one point water would leak through the dugouts and onto the field. The players had no where to put there bags without stepping into a muddy pit. Fly's and mosquitos were everywhere. How would you like your daughter coming home and telling you she was verbally assaulted by some homeless man behind the tennis courts who she was terrified of.All while waiting for the coaches to come to practice. Is that all you can say is that its like this everywhere" well it shouldn't be and it doesn't make it right look how many organizations you say use las flores park I am sick and tired of my kid coming home and saying she rolled her ankle because the field is warn down to a nub with wholes everywhere. Just yesterday AB's homerun that went under the trees almost had a disastrous accident the outfielder from DRanch almost poked her eye out because the city is to lazy to trim the branches hanging down to the floor and yes its true. How about we go plant some trees in the middle of the boys baseball field for them to dodge or put a soccer goal in right field so they can work on their corner kicks at the same time. You know what Don like I said before think before you open your mouth,first talk about what you know and not what you here. fn stupid idiot who knows nothing period go find a rock a crawl back under thats where you belong.

Fred,

Great job bringing this up for all to see and comment on. The last few years the girls have had to either walk to the swim park or if we were lucky, we would have a key to Roynon Elemenentary bathrooms. I know the administration is behind having new fields located on campus. They have there hands ties due to fiscal restraints. maybe this will help the district get off there butts and do something to assist. These girls deserve better. Field Hockey has relocated there field on campus more than once to accommidate baseball, the girls always get the leftovers. This program will never be one of the elite programs in the Valley until they can have a field of there own to call home. Also, Like I said before, watch that Canchola kid, she is going to be a special player and i am certain that she will be one of the leaders on this team the next few years, what a catch ! way to go kid!

Fred,

Great job bringing this up for all to see and comment on. The last few years the girls have had to either walk to the swim park or if we were lucky, we would have a key to Roynon Elemenentary bathrooms. I know the administration is behind having new fields located on campus. They have there hands ties due to fiscal restraints. maybe this will help the district get off there butts and do something to assist. These girls deserve better. Field Hockey has relocated there field on campus more than once to accommidate baseball, the girls always get the leftovers. This program will never be one of the elite programs in the Valley until they can have a field of there own to call home. Also, Like I said before, watch that Canchola kid, she is going to be a special player and i am certain that she will be one of the leaders on this team the next few years, what a catch ! way to go kid!

thanks fred for bringing to light a huge travesty for girls sports at bonita. come on, we are not living in the ghetto here in beautiful la verne. lets go BUSD!!

MEMO

To: Investigative Journalists
From: Myownself
Regarding: Field Improvements

1. Rather than haul out the trash that was the Moor Field fiasco, find out how local softball programs at South Hills, Charter Oak, and Northview financed and built their recent (last 2-5 years) fields and improvements.

2. Public restrooms are a problem everywhere due to vandals, lack of money, and liability. The baseball field at BoHi has no restrooms either.

3.The monetary support Bonita's Baseball program gets from the district is so small it's embarrassing. Field improvements are done by volunteers or paid for by fundraising in the community and donations in time and money from player's families.

4. Bonita's Baseball fields are used, by a variety of organizations in and outside of La Verne, just like Las Flores. AYSO, the JR Football League, club soccer teams, Lutheran HS, and others all share the turf at one point or another. Hard work by players and coaches maintaining the mound, infield, etc can be erased by walk-ons in a weekend.

5.IT'S LIKE THIS EVERYWHERE!! Every school has to raise money to make their fields playable or live with a rotten field. If you think you have problems, go check out the football fields at Los Altos or Wilson. Scary.