Girls Volleyball Top 10: St. Lucy's continues to rule the nest; Walnut pink slips Bonita

Actually I think our scheduling has been just fine, and we have 11 seniors so next year will be tough. We are switching to the Montview so we will be in 3 tournaments and no preseason so hard to schedule. Like anyone would schedule us anyway-they would have everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Big week for LA. Bonita tonight then South Hills. Both games on the road. What can we expect LA fans? Obviously the bigger game being tonights with the league championship on the line.

I want them to win just because I like hearing the LA fans.

That was painful for me to not put Glendora in the top 6 but we have to get back in our game vbalfan 2. We have to win tonight to be considered. We lost to Ayala and we haven't been winning over the area teams. We have a group of girls and extremely talented players. But it doesn't mean anything if we aren't playing as a team. Tonight will be a great night if we can pull it out.

Glendora could beat San Dimas but they have been winning their games and deserves the recognition.

I thought about the SGV rankings and anyone could be in that #2 spot, vbalfan 2. Los Altos has been doing a great job but I couldn't put them above Bonita as they just lost not to long ago to them in 3. Fred and Steve have their work cut out for them. They could put Los Altos at #2 this week just to move them back down after they lose to Bonita. As of last week, Walnut was ranked in CIF.

Volleyball insider- I thought you said you were for Glendora. You didnt even list your team in the top 6. Your rankings are way off. Glendora should be at 6 they would easily beat San Dimas. You cant have Bonita at 2 they just got beat in 4 by Walnut last week. Im not saying I know how the rankings should go but I dont think they will look like yours.

Congrats on that impressive record G High. You're program is definitely ready to start scheduling some big boys(or girls) now.

CIF polls-its interesting how Bonita gets beat by an unranked CIF team last week yet still moves up

Not that it would make a difference, but Ganesha's CIF official record is 20-4.

CIF Poll for SGV

DIV II-AA
St. Lucy's #6
Ayala #10
Others: Chino Hills

DIV II-A

DIV III-AA
Bonita #2
Los Altos #7

DIV III-A
San Dimas #7
Others: Ganesha

DIV IV-A
La Puente #9
Gladstone #10

A little bit of movement on CIF. Glendora, South Hills and Walnut have dropped from the polls. But Ayala and Chino Hills have moved forward for DIV II-AA. Bonita is back in a big way along with a push from Los Altos at #7 for DIV III-AA.

Regardless of the smack talking, SGV is representing well and at the end of the day the SGV has much to be proud of.

If we go by CIF, Volleyball Insider may have had the SGV rankings right. St. Lucy's #1, Los Altos would make a good case to be #2 if they beat Bonita tonight. That could prove a difficult task considering it is at Bonita. SL is at Glendora tonight.

Rancho should be 1st in overall area. They are also ranked #8 in DIV 1 CIF Polls. Their #2 has a killer left hook. Hard to defend. Much praise.

All the smack talk in the world doesn't win league titles, LA. Bonita should win.

I could have inserted any team that has a great program and lost that one game. (Trying to keep things simple so you can follow along sgvbfan). The point spread of the game is irrelevant. Either the team came to play or they didn't. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. But lets use your logic for a moment. LA was swept by Bonita and I mean SWEPT. Does that mean LA doesn't have a chance in winning today since you have already been SWEPT? Using your logic, this would mean LA isn't a good team or program since you got SWEPT too in one game.

Just to clarify, LA does have a great program (Good coach and good athletes). But then again, so does everyone in the top 6.

SGV rankings should reflect SL as #1. They haven't loss to an area team since LA back when the season began. They have won all the big games in the area since.

#2 Bonita, #3 Los Altos, #4 South Hills, #5 Walnut, #6 San Dimas.

Big games tonight...
SL @ Glendora
LA @ Bonita

enough said...Rancho is # 1 in SGV/Inland Valley...everyone else is second in the area

now win your league title and good luck in playoffs

vblfan2:

Good call..

Tomorrow should be intresting: Bonita vs L.A.

Any other good matches out there?

I love the smack talk, but the fact is all of the teams in the big 6(sorry ghigh) could beat eachother on any given day and we have seen that happen all year long. I think St. Lucy's would win the majority of those matchups and would be favored against each team thats why they are number one. But there isnt a huge drop off.

vb-insider,talk about the morning comics. Comparing St.Lucy's vball team to USC football come on. USC lost by three points and St.Lucy's got SWEPT no chance in any game,you should have been there. Sorry to inform you but when your the best you don't have off days! Ask Flordia or ALABAMA football there 1 and 2 not USC.Facts are facts and the result the same LA 3 St.Lucy's 0.

Thank you Volleyball Insider. I was just reading vball's jiberish and was going to reply, but I couldn't have said any better!

And my point about the sudden game changes after we beat Rancho in game 1 was not to make excuses for the loss. My point was that there seemed to be shenanigans going on with the way Ayala was running the tourney, including the forementioned pool switches on Saturday morning. I personnally heard the ref say we were playing to 25. It was an emotional let down to know that that they played their hearts out to beat a very good Rancho team (with or without the supposed mis-call that only Rancho fans seem to see), and then to hear not so fast. They still could have beaten them. Both games 2 & 3 were decided by less than 3 points. They just didn't get it done. No excuses. It would just be nice to know what you were up against before the game starts.

Nothing like reading the comics on Monday morning.

To vball, For the record, I'm Glendora all the way. I just have an appreciation for my league (My league at least for this year).

If you want the whole story, try talking to the Rancho Coach. All players did not arrive until the SL game. One was at a softball tournament and another had the SAT's. You know, the test that is mandatory in to getting in to college. Good to know all Los Altos players were there on Saturday morning. That is the whole story. Get your facts straight.

Funny someone should talk about the matchups too. For Friday night, SL was suppose to play Mayfield. Saturday morning, the brackets were changed and SL had to play Rancho. Since Rancho swepped Los Osos (2nd time Rancho has beat LO), I think a few schools (including SL)got the short end of the stick. Ayala looked to rearrange the bracket to put themselves in a better bracket (And still lost to Upland. Classic). Many schools talked about this on Saturday but it is what it is. Its just a tournament and really carries no weight. SAT's were that morning and some girls were doing college visits.

Just for the record, SL has already beat South Hills with all players. (SL Fans jump in when you can. This isn't even my school).

But none of this changes anything. SL has the most consistent record and should remain first. So the LA setters Dad (I mean vball) can pipe down and stop embarrassing your school. Everyone agrees your claim to fame is beating SL one day. I am sure Washington fans still brag about beating SC. It doesn't change the facts. Everyone can have one off day.

To Ghigh: You make a great point. Teams should be highlighted that are tops in their league and not just SGV. (This would not include Diamond Bar. They are in 4th place.) But this would mean SL/Bonita/Walnut/San Dimas/Bishop Amat would be featured.

actually 3 leagues, but I get your point. I think that volleyball insider said it best, all of the top programs in all the local leagues should be recognized and discussed on this blog. But if we are ranking the top 10 teams in the area then who would win or has won in head to head matchups has to be considered.
And DB probably would beat many of those teams in the bottom of the top 10.

Maybe DB does deserve to be ranked, but shouldn't the blog highlight the teams that are in the top spots in their leagues? Otherwise most of the top teams in the SGV come from two leagues and the rest would be left out, even if they win CIF or something crazy.

This just in Los Altos beat St Lucy's (on 9/16/09).

If you don't believe me, just ask "vball".

Congrats to Diamond Bar for that much needed win.

Ghigh you say Diamond Bar looked good... Now look and Max Prep and see how Diamond Bar has done against the Top Six and League matches...

If you feel they are good after seeing their losses... Then Diamond Bar needs to replace Ganesha, Gladstone and LP in the rankings.

Diamond Bar didnt enter the Ayala tourney much like bishop amat for a reason.... want to take a guess....

I dont think anything was done at the Ayala tournament to clarify the convuluted picture that is the SGV volleyball rankings 1-6. St. Lucy's is still number one and then who knows.

Even though the competition wasn't as strong at the Gladstone tourney I think Diamond Bar showed that even though their record isn't great especially vs the top teams, they are good enough to be ranked.

vball insider:

Rancho lost to La Serna on Friday.
Rancho lost to L.A. on SATURDAY.

Rancho played with the same players against both L.A. and St. Lucys.

South hills and Walnut had their big guns missing.

Its obvious St. Lucys fans dont want to admit that they lost to the team L.A. beat...

Yes the same L.A. team that beat St. Lucys in three.. Damn it feels good saying that.....I can say it over and over again and it never gets old.

Why dont you bring up the fact the L.A. was the team that made it passed the first round... everyone else made the the the loosers bracket.

Or why dont you bring up the fact that you had an easy pool. Unlike South Hills and L.A. Or the ayala decided to move the brackets and put L.A. against Los Osos. Otherwise it would have been a different tournament. GUARANTEED!

vball insider-LA played Rancho Saturday morning not Friday night,also St.Lucys beat Walnut and South Hills without there best players,please tell the whole story not just what you want to say. By the way, the season is far from the end.

I agree, lots of teams missing players at the Ayala tournament although the level of play was still high. And some of the losers bracket "matches" were one game to 25. Hard to put a lot of weight on outcomes of that tournament.

Watched the LA/Rancho game and La Serna/Rancho game. The ONLY reason both those teams won Friday was the missing players for Rancho. The end.

As for sgvbal fan, No excuses for the SL loss. Rancho is a great team. The end.

SL beat the teams for the San Gabriel Valley and this is what this paper is about. We beat Walnut and South Hills (again) and Claremont. Their record is 21-4.

But if you are talking about wins/losses, Rancho won the Ayala tournament. They swept Los Osos with having all the players. So SL's only loss was to the team that won the tournament and is undefeated in their DIV I league.

Previously someone said the top teams were Rancho, Los Osos and SL. They have that right.

Los Altos defeated Mayfield, not Mayfair. Mayfield was missing 6 of their seniors, but still a solid win for L.A. Mayfield is the top ranked team in Div. 3A.

Diamond Bar beat Monrovia to win the Gabrielino tourney, I think the score was 25-17. Playoffs were tough because they had to be one game to 25 because of CIF restrictions. Diamond Bar played really well and really seemed in sync. Hard to believe they might not make the playoffs, but that is a pretty tough league.

Ganesha won our pool beating El Monte, Alhambra, and a tough St. Paul team. We one our first round playoff match against Eastside and then lost to Monrovia 25-16. A little disapointed we didn't make it to the semis, but we improved our official record to 19-4 and the girls had a great time.

Two more weeks of league and the CIF!

St.Lucys fan,what does your loss have to due with other teams missing players,your team was not missing players and should have lost the first game against Rancho, you only won due to a bad non-call(4-hits) everyone there I'm sure would agree. You always have an excuse when you lose. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.

Who won the gabrielino tourney?

By the way, as previously stated, many of the teams were missing key players, including Rancho that was missing a middle, their setter and libero. I would take this tourney with a grain of salt.

Don't know what happened but sl's team was told playoff match against Rancho would be 1 game to 25. After they won, and the ref even signalled the game was over, they changed it to a best of 3. Both games 2 and 3 were very tight, but Rancho was able to pull it out. SL was able to win out against Walnut, South Hills and Claremont to take the consolation bracket. All games were won in 2 with the exception of Claremont who took the first game.

La Serna and L.A. both beat Rancho, but St. lucys lost to Rancho.

results for Los Altos
Pool 2
1. Rancho
2. Los Altos
3. La Serna
4. Cathedral City

L.A. vs Cathedral City (2-0) Won
L.A. vs La Serna (2-0) Won
L.A. vs Rancho (2-0)Won

Play offs:
L.A. vs Mayfair (2-0) Won
L.A. vs Los Osos (1-2) Lost

L.A. was the only team that made it passed the 1st round of playoffs in the winners bracket from the SGV top 6.

Good Job L.A.

Rancho beat St. Lucy's

How did the St. Lucy's vs. Rancho Cucamonga match turn out?

still in pool play this morning, but SL's beat Valencia and Etiwanda in 2 from yesterday's matches.

Charter Oak took Los Osos to 3 games. LO won out, but big game win for CO.

Walnut lost their match to Chino Hills.

So how did teams do in the first round of the Ayala tourney?

This has been a great yr for volleyball. I was at the Walnut Bonita game. Both team had some big hits and great digs. There is no clear cut #1 team this yr. Can't wait to see what happen at the end of the season. Good luck to all the teams.

Thanks vbl.

The only coach that had won it all besides the current Western Ch. head coach is the current assistant coach at Rancho. He was the head coach for another program in the SGV back in the 80s.

complementing not completing

I was completing your programs. I think you will be the teams to beat.

How can Ganesha and Gladstone win 8 straight league championships? Actually I think there is some pretty good vb coaching in the Montview and La Puente is currently looking at being back to back league champs.
Ganesha is usually a little taller than the teams in the Montview and hopefully this trend will continue. For Ganesha the new league will mainly benefit our other sports teams-volleyball is the only team besides boys cross country and boys soccer that makes the playoffs in the Valle Vista.

There is no experience in the world than being an on campus coach. I have been an off campus coach in soccer and volleyball and it's too hard to get things done. In Pomona Unified we do get paid more than $1500, but since we have no funds a lot of that check goes towards our programs.

A couple of things

Many of the local top programs have coaches that are on campus teachers. Mainly Glendora, Ayala, Diamond Bar, South Hills, Walnut, Bonita etc. I am sure I am forgetting some . And most of those dont coach club. Schools would much prefer to have an on campus coach as opposed to a walk on. There have been a few problems locally with walk on coaches. Not saying one is better than the other but like many of you have said you have to love the game to put up with everything for $1500 bucks or whatever they get.
With the new leagues next year its going to lead to some great rivalries. Some teams that are used to cruising into the playoffs are going to have to up their game.
G high you and Gladstone should prepare to win about 8 straight league championships.

Yes, Coach Macchia has a lot of playoff experience with boys and girls teams.

Ganesha Def. Northview 25-22, 25-13, 21-25, 25-21.

Tough one-they really wanted it.

Good luck to everyone at the Ayala and Gabrielino tournaments.

According to former LA varsity coach, the current assistant coach of Rancho, Ayala, and current Head coach of Los Osos, South Hills, Western Christian, and Southland Christian had made it to the CIF Final for either their boys' or girls' program.

Its hard for schools to keep great coaches coaching.. We pay them 1,500, to hear us complain about our girls playtime, coaching errors, players errors, bad wins, bad losses.

Schools want coaches to have practice right after school, no realizing/caring about there real job.

Its unfortunate, the better the teams get the more drama coaches have to deal with... So usually the just hang up the whistle.

Regarding divisions, I take the opposite approach. I wish we were in div.1 and competing with the top teams in the area. That is where teams need to be to get more looks by college recruiters and truly elevate their game to compete with the best.

Great players arent always Great Coaches.

Some Great players have raw talent and can be very successfull on the court. But when its time to teach 12 girls with 12 different personalities, ego's, levels of play, attitudes, etc. they have a hard time simplifying the game and teaching the methods that are needed to mold and create great players.

Good point GHigh. Yes, talent obviously has much more to do with it than coaching. Wasn't trying to insinuate we do not have good local coaches, because we definitely do. Guess where I was going was that it seems there is a lot of successful club teams at the younger ages, but that doesn't necessarily translate to the older teams. Could be the recent increase in participation in the clubs at younger ages or could also be that some of the best local talent move to clubs with better winning traditions (i.e. beach cities).

SL VB Fan: Blaming the coaching? I think the reason some schools are so successful and clubs are because of the volleyball culture of the community they are in. Affluent beach communities full of former volleyball players kids naturally have an advantage.
I doubt the coaching is that much different, but the talent is. I would think a successful high school coach would more likely want to coach college than a D. 1 school, especially if they would have to move to coach at another high school?

LA Fan brings up a good point. How many coaches in the area have actually won a CIF title? My personal experience is that VB coaches don't hang around long enough. I can only assume that the very good coaches with winning records move to the div.1 schools or coach the beach schools. Since most of the local hs coaches are also local club coaches in some capacity, probably the reason that our local clubs seem to not be very successful, especially at the higher levels.

Of course divisions matter (I wish we were in 4A this year and last year!).
Maybe we should have a top 5 for Divisions 3AA and above and a top 5 for divisions 3A and below?
Trying to find an equitable solution.

I agree with Lancer somewhat. A great program is everything and I think Ganesha has done an AMAZING job turning that program around.

But your fooling yourself if you don't think Divisions don't count too. I am sure there are quality kids in every division. The concentration of those quality kids becomes thicker as the divisions get higher.

Just the facts.

I wasn't trying to knock Bonita's setter, just that the blog is mainly for and about parents. If it motivates her then that's fine. I have never seen her play nor met her, but everyone has said she is amazing and she didn't say anything inappropriate. I apologize if what I said came out wrong.
Why don't other teams switch to Gabrielino instead of Ayala? Or better yet why don't area teams come to Ganesha's incredibly well run tournament where all matches are best of 5? Gabrielino is our sister school that supports us so we don't have the option of switching tournaments.
Hey-looks like I succeeded again at getting more blog hits!

Unfortunately its obvious that unlike football fred and steve go off of Max Prep, and THE BLOGS.

Prime examples : Bishop Amat was invisable untill somone in the blogs mentioned them..

Southland Christian last year lost in CIF finals and never got ranked.

As for those schools who want to be ranked up with the Big Time, then its time to get out of the comfort zone, and sign them up in Big Time Tournaments. Try the Torrance Tournament, the Torrey Pines Tournament, the Ayala Tournament, Mohrs Tournaments.

Play schools like, St. Lucys's, Clarmont, Rancho, Los Osos, La Serna, La Habra, South Hills, Walnut, Brentwood in your non league matches.

Look at Bonitas, L.A.'s, South Hills, St. Lucy's even Bishop Amats preseason schedule.... and now look at Ganeshas, gladstone, wilson, diamond ranch, nogales, La Puente, etc.

any questions...

I think some of the private schools have taken a hit enrollment wise over the last couple of years because of the economy. This has affected their sports programs as well. The WC team had a core group of senior girls that just carried them through CIF. And Lancer you are right they performed very well against the "Bigs" in tournaments throughout that season. Although not a private school, the same thing happened a couple of years ago with Rim. They were strong for years but have dropped off significantly.

Well put volleyball insider, regarding the CIF divisions.

Interesting that Brentwood-Bonita is considered a "big-time matchup". Brentwood was in Western Christians "small division" when WC won the title. Their best player went on to play at Stanford. I guess WC is a shell of their former self, but B-Wood has kept it going. It's the program - not the division.

Lots of good commentary...

Each team/division should be recognized for its accomplishments.

If a school won CIF in a lower division than that is great and should be given credit. Absolutely.

As for schools that are going to quarter finals and semi's in higher divisions, that is quite an accomplishment itself.

If the arguement is being made that a team that won their CIF Division in a much lower Division should be ranked along side teams that are in higher divisions simply because they have the same record, well that doesn't make any sense.

For the football lovers, that would be like ranking North Alabama (NCAA DIV II school 8-0 record) with Florida or Alabama (record 7-0). Accomplishements and success for all programs but doesn't translate that North Alabama be ranked #2 and should jump a school like USC because they have a better record. See what I mean? Not the same.

Lets embrace the accomplishments of all our teams but lets not confuse things either.

Recommendation: Ganesha and San Dimas should register in tournaments like Mohrs or Ayala and not Gabriellino.

To Ghigh: I was surprised about your comments about the Bonita setter. I am sure she had better things to do too. But I don't blame the Bonita setter as she was being called out on an online newspaper blog and her comments were ok. Lucky for you, your team doesn't play Bonita.

Does anyone have an update on the Lady Bearcats and how they did last night? I read that they won in 4 but any details would be helpful.

Great job Ladies...It seems like it's an up and down season with some close loses and some big wins, and hopefully all this gets you ready for playoff. Having said that, it would be nice to get on a roll from here on out...

I may be mistaken but I think Southlands Christian in Walnut went to a CIF final last year.

I always include the lower ranked top 10 teams when I discuss the big games. I also include teams from outside the area, its just that the interest/blogging is done by fans of the top ranked teams, mostly LA and St. Lucy's.

The best team in the area at this point is Rancho, and then follows by Los Osos, and then St. Lucy if we combined sgv and inland. Those 3 teams will be at Ayala tourney this weekend, it will be interesting to see who will come out on top.

It is kind of disappointing that no one covered the Brentwood-Bonita match. How often would volleyball fans get to see a big time matchup in our area.

One of the main reason Wilson and Western Christian won their CIF titles was that their star players doesn't play club our area. They are more exposed to higher competitions and trainings. But, their coaches are also good managers on top of that.

Since not many coaches/school in the area have made it to the CIF Final besides South Hills, Wilson HH, and Western Christian, are there any coaches in the area made it or won it as a player or coaching at other school outside the area?

There simply haven't been enough head to head to determine the big 6 if there is such a thing. The creation is meant to undermine everyone else. I love our local top teams, but to be a devil's advocate how about the big six disappointments! Chances are the lower division teams will once again play up to par in CIF, any predictions on how the "big six" will do? In other words, if you want everyone to root for all of our teams don't create a moniker that divides us. Honesty is a slippery slope-I could go on and on.
In my mind Gladstone deserves so much respect, but since I've been a part of it everyone seems to think they are lucky.

The big 6 is because of the huge gap between #6 and 7. Nobody is discounting the lower schools, they are just talking more about the best teams in the area. The fact is the most exciting games and matchups are occuring with those "big 6". However,I was very interested in the outcome of your San Dimas match. I agree the only fans that are blogging seem to be from the top teams. The Diamond Bar folks have even disappeared.

Keep fighting the good fight for the little guys Ghigh. They need representation as well and no one else seems to be up to the task.

Fine-you meant no disrespect, then what is all the Big 6 talk about? I thought this was a top ten discussion? Fact is that the teams that actually get respect in CIF in the SGV are from the lower divisions, yet the blog members tries to discount those teams by creating a BIG 6!

Of course, only the parents from the "big 6" are the ones on the blog. I guess most either disapprove of blogging, don't see the purpose, or don't even know it exists. I know I thought the Bonita setter comments were hilarious because Ganesha's players and parents don't even pay attention. We don't feel they need to because they have enough on their plates.

Good luck to all at the Ayala and Gabrielino tourneys this weekend. Hopefully a team from the SGV can make it to the finals this year.

You are right Ghigh I forgot about Wilson and Ashley Lee. I meant no disrespect toward Western Christian, winning CIF is difficult in any division, I just meant they are a very small school. Bottom line is it is nearly impossible for area teams especially the bigger schools. The realigning divisions gives us more of a chance though.

That Western Christian team was Division 5 but if I remember won the Ayala Tournament that, as always, had most of the best teams from the SGV and Inland Empire.

This has been a crazy year for our local teams. After losing in 4 to a very solid Walnut team Bonita just beat the defending CIF divison 3AA champions and 2nd ranked team this year in 4. Hard to sort out the top team this year.

Actually HH Wilson won CIF 5 years ago and their star player now plays for Long Beach State. Who cares what division Western Christian won CIF in, give them some credit. Everyone keeps talking about this team isn't as good because of their division, but if those are the teams that are successful in the area they DESERVE the credit, not the teams that are failing in the upper divisions.

The SGV gets no love from CIF because we havent had a CIF champion here since Western Christian did it about 6 years ago in Division 14 or something. S. Hills made a final a few years ago I believe. A few semi final appearances by some local teams, but not a whole lot of success. The fact that they redivisioned a few years ago helped a little bit, buy we are not exactly dominating.

No hate against any team and never stated LA was not a talented team. I put LA in the top 5 teams and stated it was a toss up. One person's opinion based on stats and from what I have seen. I also stated I put more weight on league games, so...

Would entertain any arguement to the contrary.

Half way through league for all teams (as of last night)..........Who are the team MVPs for each of the Top 10 teams at the midway point?

Tonights is big night for the SGV. Bonita plays Brentwood. SGV does not get any love from CIF as they they think our leages do not compare to the olympic league.

Good Luck to Bonita and RESPRESENT THE SGV!!

If Bonita wins, this will place them in a great spot in the CIF rankings/polls.

To clarify, these are the big matches that are left that involve the top 10. In no particular order

LA @ SH
Bonita @ Walnut
LA @ Bonita
SH @ Walnut
ST.L @ Glendora
Ganesha @ San Dimas

These are three out of five official matches, not tournament games.

SL VB Fan...

Im not even a Los Altos fan, it just looks like they are getting the end of the stick. Much like glendora who went from 2nd 6th. If that the case, South hills should have dropped to 5th or 7th....

I think they need to be given a little more credit, after all, If I recall they beat your St. Lucys in three (and you still dont give them the least bit of credit)... Does that take away from St. Lucy's talent?????

To me it sounds like you are still hating L.A. for beating St. Lucy's...

As for glendora... I think they should have moved down maybe 2 spots.... Not 4

Much like Bonita should now move down 2 spots.

Walnut... its a tough one..

L.A. maybe move up one... or stay the same...

But its just odd that South Hills moves down just one spot after loosing to a lower ranked team... Was it because it was they day they made the front page?

based on that LA beat SH's in 5, got swept by Bonita in 3, took 5 to beat Diamond Ranch, lost to Walnut (who SH's beat). Like I said, it is a toss-up. You can make an argument for any of those three teams. I am basing my opinion on what I have seen. LA needs to beat Bonita and at least one of the remaining matches between Walnut and SH.

Like la fan stated, none of this matters anyway,right?

South Hills is the same... They have a young setter with full dependency of the sisters. Which are struggling to pass and get out and hit.

South Hills only has Walnut thats would matter in League. They also play Los Altos but thats a non league match....

I dont see how you can say South Hills is better then L.A. if L.A. just beat them. How Does that work???

Bonita now has to face Brentwood. I have my money on Brentwood, They went 5 with Campbell Hall and have been competing for the No. 1 spot in the CIF polls and in the Olympic League.

Thats how I would rank them too SL VB Fan.

There are many top teams playing at the Ayala tournament this Friday and Saturday, but like I said before, I have talked to one head coach who said they will have top players missing for testing on Saturday. Im sure there will be other teams missing players as well. It will be tough to gauge for rankings. But I think all of the Big 6 will be there, maybe not Bonita. Also included will be Ayala, Los Osos, Mayfield and some other very strong teams.

Glendora is coming off a loss to an ok Ayala team (put them 7th if they were concidered for this poll)and were swept by SL. They, like Bonita, have 2-3 strong players, but those players can not carry the entire team. SH, Walnut and LA are more balanced and have much better defensive play which wins games. This is obviously going to change from week to week, but still no clear cut 2nd place team. League play should be weighted more heavily so I would have to give it to South Hills based only on their tenacity and potential to win big games. After that it is a toss up, but I would go Walnut, Bonita, Los Altos, Glendora.

True Robert, and those schools have both played eachother twice for the last 8 years. Makes for good rivalries even though they are not true league opponents.

Because Miramonte is currently (this year) a five (5) team league, Bonita and Los Altos each shedule a home and home with a local school during "league" play. Los Altos is at South Hills on 10/29 and Bonita is at Walnut on 11/5.

Why would Los Altos and Bonita play SH and Walnut again? Are you sure about that?

Actually CIF doesn't take non division opponents into account that much. It really depends on the individual doing the rankings because it's just one person per division.
They say only the top four in the rankings matter, but if you look at the brackets the 8 seed often is set up to play the 1 seed in the quarters and so on.

Not necessarily Ghigh. Top teams in those divisions could lose(not likely) allowing those local ranked teams to move up. The pollsters like victories against higher division opponents. Both LA and Bonita play S.H and Walnut again. So they could move up with victories. Plus they play eachother too.
CIF rankings dont mean a whole lot either. The brackets arent seeded beyond the 4 for the most part. They are seeded each game with a #1 in league most likely playing a #3,. In the last couple of years there haven't been a whole lot of byes, they are filling those bracketes. If any local team is planning on going far you have to have a lucky draw, and that is not necessarily predicated on ranking.

Yes, the whole blog and rankings are meaningless, but lots of fun. vblfan2 is correct that this blog is mostly positive and that's why we enjoy the banter so much.
Interesting that even though playing local teams is great for the area it hasn't been so great for our CIF rankings. Los Altos defeated St. Lucy's but is only ranked 9th I believe in their Div. and Bonita has lost to several teams in upper divisions and they have dropped in the rankings as well. The chance for either one of those teams to move up in their division rests on whether or not they play in another tournament and/or they win in that tournament.

Of course they are meaningless La fan, but its fun to do and the girls get some recognition as well.

As long as its mostly positive and not like those ridiculous football blogs I think its great for the local girls.

all the ranking talks are meaningless...the only poll that counts is the final poll from CIF

These rankings are changing daily. Congrats to Walnut for their "dig pink" win. That is a great win.
With Bonita losing S. Hills most likely moves up to 2. Which is interesting because LA can say they have beaten the top 2 ranked teams.

I have to agree with moving Glendora to 6th. Other than their win against Walnut at the beginning of the year, they just dont have the quality wins.

San Dimas though getting 3-0 sweep had a tough time with Northview in Games #1 and #3.

Lady Saints spotted Northview leads of 7 (12-5, 15-8) and 5,6 (8-3, 10-4) early on in respective sets. SD's response was practicaly identical with rally runs of 8-1, 8-2, etc.

Game 1 went to the 30th point, SD 30 to 28. Lady Vikings held match point three times but SD battled back in a seesaw climactic. From the 16th point on play was eye to eye hit for hit kill for kill dig for dig, there were like 13 ties.

Game 2 - all SD.

Game 3 - Tied at 18th point but Saints charged 6-1 for match pt then fending off a minor 2 pt View surge prior to clonker.

Liked how San Dimas #84, #7 & Northview #27 performed. Outstanding work.

South Hills looses to Los Altos
South Hills Beat Walnut
Walnut Beats Bonita
Los Altos lost to Bonita
Glendora lost to ayala

South hills got off easy, unlike glendora... How does glendora move 4 spots but South Hills moved down one spot.. if that....

Glendora and Los Altos got screwed in my opinion....

Glendora played Ayala, very decent volleyball school. Los Altos beats South Hills but doesnt move more then one spot because it wasnt a pretty win... hmmmm....

Walnut beat Bonita in 4.