Super 32: No. 1 Bishop Amat Ready for the Serra Stretch run; Rowland defends No. 3 against W.C.

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Above: Charter Oak's A.J. Powell running in for a touchdown

Tribune Top Ten
1. Bishop Amat (7-0) - The best start since beginning 9-0 in 1998, a streak that was ended with a 7-7 tie against Loyola. Guess what, they get Loyola on Friday in the Serra opener. Keep it up boys, the Valley is watching.
2. Charter Oak (7-1) - With Bishop Amat playing so well, we almost forget the Chargers are on track to repeat as champions, a feat they have never accomplished in the long history of Big Lou.
3. Rowland (7-0) - If the Raiders can somehow defeat West Covina without Michael Ball, they should beat Nogales and go into the South Hills finale 9-0. I don't think they can do it, but I didn't think they would reach the Southeast Semi's last year either.
4. South Hills (5-2) - The most improved team over the course of the season, which is no surprise considering Steve Bogan is in charge. He generally uses the preseason to play tough teams and tinker with lineups. Now in the stretch run, the Huskies are starting to fire on all cylinders.
5. San Dimas (6-1) - What can you say, the defense is still nails, leading the Valley by allowing an average of just under ten points a game. If they keep this up, a rematch with Monrovia in the playoffs would be mighty interesting.
6. Baldwin Park (6-1) -- Beating Pomona 33-12 was impressive, and they should have no problem going through Northview and Ganesha next before getting San Dimas in the league finale.
7. West Covina (4-4) - The Bulldogs 33-11 win over Walnut should at least guarantee a playoff spot, and they can secure second with another win over Rowland on Friday.
8. Damien (2-5) - What's a 2-5 team doing in the top ten? Well consider this: The Spartans are the only team in the Valley whose opponents all have a winning record, and four of them have just one loss or less. And yeah, their victories are over Claremont and Glendora.
9. Glendora (4-3) -- The danger of losing running back Andre Holmes for an indefinite period could affect theTartans' playoff hopes. If they don't beat Chino Hills on the road Friday (and the probably won't), they will have to beat Ayala in the league finale to get in.
10. Azusa (7-1) -- The defending Montview league champions are the the first team in the Valley to qualify for the playoffs. If they get a good draw, they could reach the Mid-Valley Division semis.

The Middle 10
11. Walnut (5-2), 12. Arroyo (5-2), 13. Pomona (5-2), 14. La Puente (6-2), 15. Workman (5-2), 16. Bonita (2-4), 17. Los Altos (3-4), 18. Diamond Ranch (1-6), 19. Gladstone (5-2), 20. Rosemead (2-5).

On the bottom looking up
21. Covina (2-5), 22. Wilson (2-5), 23. Sierra Vista (3-4), 24. Nogales (2-5), 25. Bassett (3-4), 26. South El Monte (2-5), 27. Ganesha (1-6), 28. Northview (1-6), 29. Diamond Bar (0-7), 30. El Monte (0-7), 31. Mountain View (0-7), 32. Duarte (0-7)

33 Comments

Football Guy Author Profile Page said:

The Al-Gattas team of 2002 was the most well rounded of any team. If Ryan O'Shields had played the last 7 games of the season they would have been CIF champions. Oshields was the inside running threat. He's the one who beat South Hills the first time. They also had the leading tackler in the vally on that team, 200+. Al-gattas may not have been a better QB than Acosta or Vasquez, but he did it with a terrible line. Dont forget he was also the Safety, Kicker, and Punter. Acosta and Vasquez played less than half the game Al-gattas did. He (al-gattas) would have run though the 2004 team just like he did when they were scout teamers. 2004 did not have the talent or the size to match up at reciever/db and had a terrible Qb. Kyle Necke was the only one on the 2004 team that could stand 4 qtrs with the 2002 team.
As for the Mike Oshields era at walnut; it needs to end. Here's a thought, Bring in Al-gattas to be the coach and have him bring Acosta and the 2002 players. There is your solution to your embarrassment at Walnut. While you are at it, make it so that you get to know you middle school talent and not let your best players go to other schools and end up being division 1 scholarship guys. Keep them in town like Patricio and Borowski did. Figure it out Walnut.

Football Guy Author Profile Page said:

The Al-Gattas team of 2002 was the most well rounded of any team. If Ryan O'Shields had played the last 7 games of the season they would have been CIF champions. Oshields was the inside running threat. He's the one who beat South Hills the first time. They also had the leading tackler in the vally on that team, 200+. Al-gattas may not have been a better QB than Acosta or Vasquez, but he did it with a terrible line. Dont forget he was also the Safety, Kicker, and Punter. Acosta and Vasquez played less than half the game Al-gattas did. He (al-gattas) would have run though the 2004 team just like he did when they were scout teamers. 2004 did not have the talent or the size to match up at reciever/db and had a terrible Qb. Kyle Necke was the only one on the 2004 team that could stand 4 qtrs with the 2002 team.
As for the Mike Oshields era at walnut; it needs to end. Here's a thought, Bring in Al-gattas to be the coach and have him bring Acosta and the 2002 players. There is your solution to your embarrassment at Walnut. While you are at it, make it so that you get to know you middle school talent and not let your best players go to other schools and end up being division 1 scholarship guys. Keep them in town like Patricio and Borowski did. Figure it out Walnut.

Dan Author Profile Page said:

SGV30, I guess we could go back and forth on who was better, I feel the 04 team played and beat better teams in their season and comparing them to how they played our WC teams, we were much better in 04 than in 02 and Walnut beat us during the season and almost beat us in the Semis
that year. In 02 they seemed to peak mid season and struggled late in the season[squeaking by WC,& Rowland] and even struggled with mediocre teams in the playoffs[La Serna 14 to 7 & Bell gardens 19 to 17] before getting blown out by South hills.

SGV for 30 Years said:

I think that Al-Gattis team was by far the best Walnut team. That West Covina team. They are the only Walnut team that beat South Hills. That West Covina team they beat would have gotten a share of the league championship had they been able to score on the last play of the game. They Rowland game was played in what had to be the worst rain storm in valley history. You couldn't tell one team from the other. There were at least 15 fumbles between the 2 teams. Here's the key element that's missing now. Both of those teams had great defenses. But I think in a head to head match-up, I would take the 02'. Ryan O'Shields was another great player on that team. Looks like Walnut has quite a bit of football tradition after all.


SGV430 Ouut!

baby blue nutter said:

Whelp Da Ray...out of your bitterness came something positive. I got a Walnut football history lesson. Thanks for that.

danny...don't be a tool. 6-2 is not horrible...what is horrible....is very weak attempts to discredit a successful season.

I mean really...there is about 3 or 4 of you from the same group trying to do the same thing almost every week. Different screen names...same crap. Why don't you shut up...and just let them..all of them...enjoy the season....it is their last.

I know, most are basing success on a CIF appearance. South Hills or bust. Let's do this!!!

And if you guys are upset with any Mustang success this season, you will be equally bitter the next 3 seasons. Sorry. The JV and Frosh team have some legitimate players. The line of scrimmage may double in weight....with the returning Juniors, we are going to have depth. There are also a few potential beasts on the Frosh team. If Tony G's kid snaps his hip back on and plays...got a power RB/FB. One more year of maturity...good luck covering 88. I'd like to to see the offense simplified......smashmouth.

Why do the D-Ranch coaches know all the studs at Walnut JA? Can we get some Walnut HS representation over there before these snakes steal our kids....

Dan Author Profile Page said:

Walnut inider I disagree with which Walnut team was better. 2004 beat higher rated teams throughout their season than the 2002 Al-Gattis team. The 2004 team was also rated higher than the 02 team by cal-preps [21.8 compared too 12.4]. Al-gattis was a tremendous leader and athlete and he is what made that team go, but without him the Mustangs were not very good in 02.
I saw them both years and in 02 it took all they had to squeak by a WC team that was not very good [WC was 5 & 6 that year] and they had some help by the refs in that game, that was the year that WC scored an apparent last second TD only to have it controversially called back by th refs. The week before they squeaked by a weak Rowland team by a score of 6 to 3, Rowland was 4 & 6 that year.
In 04 Walnut handily beat a couple of D2 schools in Alta Loma and Diamond Bar who were still pretty good teams back then they also gave a very good WC team all they could handle that year in the semi's.

danny said:

Lots of "ifs" there Walnut Insider. Walnut is Horrible and will continue to be horrible. It is just not in the cards and next year is looking very sorry for you guys. Maybe the next great Walnut QB is being born today, but then again thats another big "IF". Austin Cooper is laughable!

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

While the 2004 squad made the semis and the "Al-Gattis" team was probably their best all around, none of those teams hold a candle to the Patricio era of the late 80's/early 90's. If those teams were playing now, Walnut would be raking in the titles.

Competition is watered down so drastically it's laughable. To make the playoffs you have to win 2 league games...that's it.

Most of you only remember the Jerry Person era and OShields era, but I can tell you that those squads aren't as good as most of Walnut's 80's/early 90's teams. I think even some of Borowski's teams of the mid 90's could beat the 2004 or "Al-Gattis'" team.

Acosta was a hell of a QB for Walnut. And given the fact that he followed Tommy Vasquez gave Walnut 5 solid years of great QBing. Since then, only Al-Gattis has been worth mentioning, but I would still place him behind Vasquez and Acosta.

Walnut was a very competitive school, until the Baseline League stint. Since then...nothing. Yes they made the semis and finals once, but I say this again, if one of Patricio's late 80's/early 90's teams or maybe even Acosta's team played those years, Walnut would have at least one CIF title.

Dan Author Profile Page said:

SGV30,
Yes Walnut went to the semis in 2004, I thought that 2004 team was a better team than the Al-Gattis team.

SGV for 30 years said:

Didn't Walnut go to the Semi's after the Al-Gattis group?

Da Ray-ahs said:

By the way to (30yr. and nutmeg) Walnuts Frick and frak,

Your team loses to the Nobles friday and I will come in here and have a field day with you two.

Da-Ray-ahs said:

30 yr and Nutter,

First off I would never coach at Walnut given the fact that their talent level is always at a all time low. See people of Walnut just live there generation after generation and continue to reproduce family of the same talent level. Your pride is in your all-asian band but come on football and baseball what goes on there in Walnut those programs should have been scrapped along time ago. Walnut very good school for learning test scores up and ranked high...thank you Asian students. Lance Parrish Jr. is not going to be walking the halls of Walnut in the near future and your best Football team with Al-Gattas was the the best and only team worth mentioning, fluke! that will not happen for along time over in Walnut. Your demographics just do not call for strong athletes to compete in Football and Baseball, granted you do have good Tennis,Volleyball,Soccer,Swimming and Water Polo teams.

SGV for 30 years said:

Da,

I gotta tell you my mam (woman or student), you sound awfully bitter about something. First of all who are u to call coach or player pathetic. You seem to be such an expert on who should play who. Why don't you call Coach O"Shields and let him know you are availible to help him with his pre-season schedule next year. I lknow they don't have a week one opponent scheduled yet. I'm sure an expert such as yourself would be able to find someone to open with. Heck, while you are at it maybe you can also help out coaching. I'm sure you would be able to do a much better job. Infact why waste our time in League play. Lets just tell the other coaches you are helping out. I'm sure they will forfeit on the spot. You are so quick to call someone a thug. Let's not judge a player on 2 or 3 plays, look at the whole body of work. I'll tell you this, every coach in the valley (including Snyder from Rowland) would love to have that kid playing safety and receiver for them. Baby blue, I feel ya man.

SGV Ouuut!

baby blue nutter said:

In the case of Da Ray-ahs, you're debating with a person that has no real interest in scheduling...the scheduling thing is obvious. It's a waste of time. He or she thinks this is clever way to call out players. Shaddy. That's all it is. Really....just another bitter parent....or another one that got kicked out of the band.

DA RAY-ahs said:

30 yrs. you will never get it. Ok Concord DLS and Oaks Christian is stretching it, but O'shields should get at least 2 games with a 4th place finisher out of div. 2 and maybe step it up against a CIF playoff team out of Div.5. I mean your team is Division 7 and really needs to play tougher teams. Diamond Ranch coach plays way above his teams head during non league and gets his team beat, but come league he is ready to go at it. Walnuts thinking is play weak teams get a good non league record and then get killed by West Covina and Rowland and So. Hills. So Hills played Tesoro d1 pac 5 this year, mind you they got beat but when they play you guys and do net see Tesoro on the other side of the ball they are licking their chops. Same holds true for WC. WC coach what gonads playing Bishop Amat D1 Pac5 and a few years back Mater Dei D1. Walnut have never gone this route but they should consider it. By the way you guys do have a few thugs out there, it shamed your team for the season a few games ago. "facemask #88 on the defense 15 yard penalty first down" Pathetic coaching equals pathetic Team...grow some Wal-nutz if you want to compete. Next years team OMG it is going to get real ugly.

SGV For 30 Years said:

Da Ray-ahs:

So let me get this straight. You are suggesting that Walnut play better teams in the pre-season so that they will be battle tested for league. And they would be better served getting pounded by better teams in the pre-season, and that if they had done this they would have been able to beat both Rowland, and WC? Then you say they are soft in one sentence then call them thugs at the end. Do you realize that schedules are made 2 to 3 years in advance? Covina was in the semi's acouple years ago, Arroyo usually contends for their league championship, Dbar is a rivalry game, Northview dropped them (they were a good team before the last 2 years). Who would you like to see them play? I think DeLaSalle and Oaks Christian have open dates. Should O'Shields call em up? By your theory that would make them better for league next year. One of the head coaches jobs is to evaluate their players (on all levels) and put them in situations where they can experience success, and be competitive. They can't control who they are in the league with, but they can control who else they play. You have alot of anger in your postings. Are you one of those people that got kicked off the team in high school or quit because "the coach didn't like me"?

SGV430 Ouuut!

Da Ray-ahs said:

Walnut people, come on you are too soft even as parents or followers of the Walnut program. First off you play higher level of competition to get your team used to playing teams like So. Hills, Rowland and WC in league. Playing the likes of Sonora, Garey,Dbar,Covina and Arroyo is weak. Four out of those five teams have a minus rating with Arroyo having a +10 rating which by the way is not very high. Sizing your team up against bigger and better teams does not necessarily mean injuries or god forbid a bad record (remember it is non league does not count towards the playoffs). What you do in league is what counts. Trying to get big ole Joe with the false pretense of we were 7-3 last year is such total BS. You have had big Joe in Leonard Rhodes for what? Your coaching staff did not do a thing with him to bring him along as a full fledge player, blame your line all you want. Rhodes should have saw the writing on the wall and left Walnut for So. Hills, Amat or even Diamond Ranch, why he stayed at Walnut is a joke. Austin Cooper anywhere else is not even a considered Starting QB. He really is not that good and you guys know it. As far as seeing your grads in their sports cars yes I see them and they the asians not the football players. If it is one of your thug football players most likely he stold the car.

Sd Backer said:

To all BP Braves,

I know our team and coaches really repects you guys and Coach Heggins. He runs a great program. We play pomona this week (you guys hammered them!) and we need to play well to beat them. Our focus is also on our next opponent. We will see you in 2 weeks and it should be an awesome game to be part of. Good Luck this week. You will win by 35!

SD BACKER

BRAVETOWN said:

FRED CAN U PLEASE BAN THIS "BPB" IDIOT FROM THIS BLOG. WE HAVE A BAD ENOUGH REP TO DEAL WITH. WE DONT NEED GUYS LIKE THIS REPRESENTING BP IN ANYWAY.

GO BRAVES !!!!

Give me 5 seconds with this Da Ray-ahs idiot said:

Either you're a second string player from years past or even worse; a current second string player. What gives with your vile against Walnut? What do you expect from a school where 85% of the population doesn't play sports. These kids are doing the best they can with what they've got. SGV for 30 Years was right on about the scheduling. If we played a schedule like some of these "recruiting schools" do, we wouldn't have any players left by the time league started.

We will beat Nogales and don't be surprised if we compete with South Hills. Unlike filth like you, our kids don't listen to BS from idiot blogger's like you and will play the team in front of them irregardless of what we say here.

Oh, and if you see any of our many graduates from the top tier colleges driving by in their new sports cars; make sure you wave and say hello from your curbside. Maybe they'll toss you a quarter or two you bum.

SGV for 30 Years said:

Da Ray-ahs:

You are quick to pile jump off the Walnut train and talk crap about O'Shields. Let's say that O'Shields had gone out and scheduled Charter Oak, Chino Hills, Ayala, or one of those Orange County teams. Walnut probably would have gone into league 2-3 or 1-4. They would be looking at another 3-7 or 2-6 season. So if you are trying to build a program and get the local kids to want to come there. Wouldn't it be a much easier sell if you could tell Big Ole Joe "we were 7-3 (maybe 6-4)last year and just missed the play-offs." How could you sell 2-8 or 3-7? Believe it or not, some of these players are not in it for the education. They want to win some games. I think O'Shields knew exactly what he would be up against this season. He knew the San Antonio defenses would be a big problem to block and that stopping the run would also be a problem. As for Rhodes? I don't think he is a bust. If you can't block the other team, why get the hell beat out of him. He wouldn't be around at the end of the season. Lining him up as a receiver (along with Coleman) makes other teams take guys out of the box. Football is a fairly simple game. The team who blocks and tackles the best usually wins games.


SGV430 Ouuut!

Green Card? said:

A True BP Fan said:

I doubt it! Sounds like a true "border rat" from BP.

A True BP Fan said:

FYI I would be willing to bet you that BPB is an actual SD fan. People involved with the Brave program would never say something as stupid as that. Coach Heggins preaches respect and the players follow suit! Please do not go out and misrepresent a program that you are not involved with. Don't attempt to create bulletin board material for your own team. That is pretty pathetic. The Braves are focused on Northview right now, they live 1 game at a timn!

Some Homeboy said:

HEY "fred robledo is horrible said" GET OUT OF HERE WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THESE BLOGS!!!

fred robledo is horrible said:

You suck. The Bias on here seems limitless. When are you going to dome up bogan maggorie gano farrar and Hagerty. ?? When? Can you put it up on youtube? Your sexuality has been in suspect since you took this blog over.

SGV Fan said:

What a complete IDIOT this BPB kid is. The sad part is that he doesnt even realize it. how sad.
Good luck to SD & BP

Da Ray-ahs said:

What is going on in Mustangland. Walnut really took it in the shorts vs WC and Rowland. Is it over, over there in Walnut? I say yes. They may (OR MAY NOT)beat Nogales, but what started off as a 5-0 record quickly vanished as soon as league started. When they go play So. HillS at District field they are going to get beat down HARD! To: Mike O'Shields, Lesson learned: Step up and grow a pair of Nutz. Play some higher caliber teams in your non-league schedule. You as a coach looked good winning 5 straight but you look like a Donkey/Jacka-- getting your a$$es kicked in league play. I thought Leonard Rhodes was the next coming of Marcus Allen??, boy did he tank this season. Hey Walnut Insider care to buzz in on this or are you ordering the balloons for your annual Loser Banquet?

BPfanatic Author Profile Page said:

BPB you must not know how your comments effect other people!... apparently you don't know this great group of kids, they been playing together since gremlin division @ BP Roadrunners. They have grown into a family. These boys are very hard working& humbled., so for you to make these comments your not hurting anyone just the kids!.. So when your on this blog do yourself a favor. If you can't say anything encouraging then keep your comments to your self. GO BRAVES!!!=)

WOW said:

BP,
If thats what you call brown bride i want nothing to do with it. Brown pride doesn't give you the right to act like an ass. Your an embarrassment to all mexicans.

WOW said:

BPB,
people like you give a bad name for the people of BP. Why dont you show some class and keep your mouth shut.

WOW said:

BPB,
people like you, is what gives BP such i bad name. Why dont you show some class.

SD Fan said:

BPB,

First off, that is as racist as can be.... Bunch of slow soft whiteboys ha.... I guess you haven't seen SD play. Beat us down again??? When have they beat us down the first time????? Go watch SD take down Pomona this friday then tell me what kind of players we have... Can't wait for the final game to beat down BP. You guys couldn't even beat Bonita....

just a fan said:

the tartans will be fine without #11. one person doesnt make a team fred. #6 will get the job done he has ran hard everytime i have seen him. Glendora just needs to pick up their offense of line. their devense is always on the field.

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