Undefeated Bishop Amat has four games left, how do you think they will finish?

Thanks for the support real Amat brothern. Hope to meet you all soon.

Concerned Parent,
Glad to see you are taking the high road. Maybe I will see you on some of those commitees next year as my grandson will be a freshman and I will be very much involved once again with a vested interest.

Concerned Parent,

Good decision, you've followed some good advice. It's always good to know who's in whose corner, so to speak. Obviously we know that Manzo is a baseball guy and may not really put his foot down with any misbehavior. I'd also point out that MHphd has a soft spot for Nieto, as he's hired him twice - once at Cantwell and then again at Amat. It's one of the few decisions that was, sort of, his choice and not MSGr's -so MHphd may give him a longer leash as well. I know they have had "conversations" before - but MHphd does support his coaches as long as he can.

As has been said, their is strength in numbers and if you get involved - you have the numbers. Then the word clearly needs to get to MSGr. Not that she has a ton of "power" but Mrs Gover has been their a long time and is in charge of faculty supervision ... and she isn't afraid to use her voice.

Good luck and glad to have you on board. Stay involved - we need more like you.

To Amat 73 and the rest of you Amat followers,

Thank you for the feed back on this issue whether you agree or disagree with it. 73 thanks for all of the advice, I think that is what I`m going to do is be apart of the solution and not the problem. I was just disappointed with what happened. I`ve heard over the last few years how Nieto was with his players, along with his attitude of invincability that I disagree with. I will engage with as many committies as possible. Lastly, this will be the last time I come on here and speak about Nieto or any other coach at Amat. Any future concerns, I will handle in a way that will get results immediately. GO AMAT BEAT loyola.

AMAT FAN 4 LIFE!

I was at that game against St. Bonny and I spoke with Nieto. He was not intoxicated. He was with his family. The person he did have a verbal altercation was in fact the father of a boy that got thrown out of Amat for stealing from his teammates. How about taking some accountability. How can anyone question the playing of Rio Ruiz. He is by far the best player in the program. I sent my child to Amat to compete against the best. If he earns a starting spot it is totally on him. If he doesn't I will continue to love him and support him and his coaches not engage in some jealous hissy fight.

Look dip sh.t before you go shooting your fat mouth and saying things about people you need to get your fascts straight dumb ahole. I have never said anything on this blog about any coach or more importantly against any kid. Don't involve me in your little girl circle. I have better things to do than gossiping with your girl friends. If you have anything to say to me, I'm very easy to find. I wish you and your son the best at USC.

Proud,
I agree that is why my first sentence was everyone is entitled to their opinion. As far as putting in other kids I think you have to admit that up until last weeks game our offense hasn't really been hitting on all cylinders so to speak so maybe the first string needed the work and you know the pressure to win is tremedous at AMAT. Now that league is beginning there will be less time for them unless we totally blow some one out but I don't see that in our league no matter what anybody says. I say just be thankful we are on track and the youngsters time will come . Just look at this team. What was the outlook on them at seasons start and look at how that D has blossomed along with the O-line.A lot of them are first year starters. Did anybody see this 7-0 coming . Like I said Hags knows what he is doing so jump aboard and enjoy the ride.

CP,
By you saying the top brass to me that would be Msgr and not Manzo. It would not matter to him who your child was because and if we are speaking of Nieto being intoxicated at the game I can't believe he would let that go by and if he is who you went to and he did nothing maybe now you will understand why many of the alumni are just waiting for the day he moves on. I don't really think Fred will be much help , no knock on Fred but there have been many good stories that should have been followed up on but were left alone for what reasons I don't know.This recent incident at the Wilson / LA game and all the problems concerning Wilson previous coach and boosters. In my years of being an AMAT parent I was on many commitees and when we had problems we would speak as a group of concerned parents and had our voices heard and action was taken .It did help a great deal by being an alumni but we as a group were heard. I learned a few key things about dealing with the administation from the great Stan the Man years ago and they worked years after . Hit um where it hurts , in the pocket book which all of you as parents can certainly do. How many alums do you think held back their usual donations because of the poor showing of the previous coaching staff in football. Granted football is more of a generator of funds to AMAT then any other sport but there are plenty of fundraisers that you can commitee on and be heard. The best way is to be involved in as many things as you can , get on commitees and as they say in sports make a name for yourself. Sometimes being a concerned parent is not enough sometimes you need to be an asset to the school. Just look at all the old timers who have no children at AMAT but still are in charge of many things there. Become involved and be a part it .

73
I totally agree that Hag and his staff have the final say. I also think that Hags done a hell of a job since he got to Amat. The only thing I've said is that I would give other kids some playing time especially when you've won the game by the 3rd quarter. Also in my opinion I think that he gave some kids expectations that he did'nt keep. As far as his coaching ability it's obious that he making the right decisions,it sure looks like it. Do I agree with all of them, probably not. That's just my opinion.

To all of you,

You say this is not the forum to speak about Nieto. You also say take it up with the powers to be. Now listen to your selves do you really think I would come on here without having gone to the top brass. I`ve spoken with someone regarding this and they said they would investigate, to which I say, they will not do anything. The facial expressions when I shared this information with them is what gave it away. This person asked who my son was and I said that he was not involved in this and I was giving them this info as a concerned Parent. This person really wanted to know whom my child was. Let me ask you is this is this their way of getting back at a person for inquiring about something regarding Amat. So you know, I do not know any members of the Ramirez family, whom you say had issue with Nieto. Like I said it all as a concerned Parent. This is why I put it on this blog, because of the numerous Amat followers on here. My next step is to speak with Fred Robledo about this. Maybe he can get some answers I cannot get. Amat 73, maybe you should inquire about this incident, because you seem to have someones ear at Amat.

proud fan,
Everyone is entitled to their opinion . But on the football team the only one that matters is Hags and his fellow assistant coaches.I think it is fair to say they know what is best for the team and no one else especially fans and parents. The stands are full of the next Lombardi or Belichick but given th chance couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag. You may be close but no way are personal with what happens on the field and practice and meetings. Who knows who will be next seasons QB, hell the way things are going we might get some phenom freashmen or transfer .
CWIS,
You are right on the SD game. Maybe next year when my grandson becomes a LANCER I will be a little closer to what's going on. Third generation by the way. You can bet if that starts where he is concerned someone will listen . Or like you said about being on the elbows.

To Call it like I see It and proud fan...You are either the same person, or in the same family...my guess MVFIRE...you call your self a proud Amat person but all your hate comes out towards Amat players and coaches, never once anythng positive at all...The incident with Nieto happened but not like it has been said...this Ramirez idiot was drunk and started yelling over the fence at Andy...Ramirez older son was removed from the school because he was stealing from kids, opening lockers...his youngest son wasn't a very good baseball player so he got cut...now the Dad has his agenda and has to blame somebody...with his liquid courage he goes out and attacks Andy on the sideline while Andy is with his young family...The guy was 86'd out the gate and banned from campus...so the haters could be Ramirez and his family...But the true hater is MVFIRE...he will not be happy till his grandkids are doing everything at all the levels...sometimes things just don't turn out the way we want and we have to accept that...But MVFire...will fabricate, gather his little circle and just keep talking and spewing his hate...If the above people had any balls at all the would walk up to all the starters Dad's and say there BS to there face...how they should not be starting and why the so called Jr's and sr;s
were better last year...oh dont forget about the freshman...he was so bad that USC made him a big time offer...his freshman year...hey, ask St. Paul's coach about his opinion of the freshman...both of you fools need to pull your head out your a$$ 's and shut the f up already...let it go...since we know who you are now...just stop already and we can all go on enjoying Amat games both FB and BB.

To Call it like I see It and proud fan...You are either the same person, or in the same family...my guess MVFIRE...you call your self a proud Amat person but all your hate comes out towards Amat players and coaches, never once anythng positive at all...The incident with Nieto happened but not like it has been said...this Ramirez idiot was drunk and started yelling over the fence at Andy...Ramirez older son was removed from the school because he was stealing from kids, opening lockers...his youngest son wasn't a very good baseball player so he got cut...now the Dad has his agenda and has to blame somebody...with his liquid courage he goes out and attacks Andy on the sideline while Andy is with his young family...The guy was 86'd out the gate and banned from campus...so the haters could be Ramirez and his family...But the true hater is MVFIRE...he will not be happy till his grandkids are doing everything at all the levels...sometimes things just don't turn out the way we want and we have to accept that...But MVFire...will fabricate, gather his little circle and just keep talking and spewing his hate...If the above people had any balls at all the would walk up to all the starters Dad's and say there BS to there face...how they should not be starting and why the so called Jr's and sr;s
were better last year...oh dont forget about the freshman...he was so bad that USC made him a big time offer...his freshman year...hey, ask St. Paul's coach about his opinion of the freshman...both of you fools need to pull your head out your a$$ 's and shut the f up already...let it go...since we know who you are now...just stop already and we can all go on enjoying Amat games both FB and BB.

Amat73

This is exactly my take on this. Can you imagine how bad it really must be for these parents not wanting to make any waves for what the kid would go throuh after the fact. Last year there were at least 4 families that wouldn't do anything for that exact reason. No one wants to be the sacrificial lamb.
As for the coach playing who he want's, I venture to say that you probably didn't follow this team last year. There have been some really bone head line ups at times. Just look at what he did at the San Dimas game. Probably the most important game in the season. This is where a good coach shows his talent. That game had to be the talk of the town. I personally, think that the parents are just trying to protect their own kids young future. People have left the school and just dropped it. Some because it's just not worth the effort and others for the exact reason you quoted. The interest of the school. Why doesn't Haggerty have this problem with his kids. You still have parent not agreeing with him, but I've never heard anyone accuse him of swearing at the kid directly or breaking their spirit down or making them feel like loosers. You say ask the kids, great idea, but do it privately where he does'nt feel the pressure of exposing this wana be. He tells kid things like play hard and you will earn a possition and then turns around and put a kid that even their own pier laugh at. At any rate it really is too bad that these parents, like you say ban together and get it done. No one wants to leap first or be the martar for the obious reason I mentioned. Pretty dam sad and he is laughing through out this whole ordeal.

cwis,
Granted but what really caught my eye was the reference to being under the influence part. I don't think anyone in the administration would stand for that at a public outing such as the football game.How does that look to potential families who are thinking of sending their child to AMAT and they see that type of behavior. That is to risky to have happen and not do anything about it. No one really knows what goes on with the team only what they hear or their kid tells them. Who he plays and why is up to him and his assitants and no one else. If they feel a younger player is right for the team and sits an upperclassmen well that's just competition on the ball field. My only point was if this is so rampant as it is said to be these concerned parents should make their voice heard where it counts.Like you said if that was being done to my kid , well you know the rest. If enough of them make noise someone will listen.

Amat 73 you make good sense and your absolutely right, this is not the place to to lodge your concerns. I hear this persons frustration and if it were as simple as you make it sound, it would be a different story. First you have to understand where these folks are comming from. This guy has done a great job of selling himself to the higher ups. Last year I heard the same frustration from different parents and few did try to take it higher with no success. Thier feelings are secretly voiced that if I make any waves the only one that suffers is the kid. Dude I've heard it and doesn't it make you wonder why so many people have left the school or complained with no results. He is suppose to help create young adults teach them but instead makes kids feel like the f ing loosers that he so often refers them to. You go out and witness some of the practices. The words f ing this and f ing that are first in his vocabulary. I thought this was a Catholic school. This is a serious issue and some of you parents better get some tanates and do something. As far as the money he suposidly draws, well at who's expense. I just thank god that I don't have a kid in this program.

Concerned Parent,
By your post I take it you were right there when the incident happened. Now I am not defending nor accusing Coach Nieto of anything just trying to figure out your post. If you heard the conversation between security and Nieto and you say Nieto was under the influence of alcohol you had to also have been at field level. According to call as i see there are stories of belittling players and so forth. My question to you is why did you stand by and not address the issue with either Mgsr or the good Doctor on what you witnessed. If you are that concerned there are many outlets for you to get your point across to the administration . I had a problem with a faculty member with one of my kids when they attended and I went straight to the top and got immediate action. Also on commitees where we felt shorted by faculty we got results by going to the top . There is an old saying money talks and bs walks. If you current parents keep talking bs nothing will ever change. Why do think Hags is coach now and the old coach is gone . Alumni $$$ gate $$$ concession $$$ began to dwindle .Can you imagine just the gate receipts after home games now. If the BB program loses kids and revenew whether thru donations or other avenues do you think Mgsr will stand for that. No he won't, so stand up and let your voice be heard in the right place instead of on this blog.

For the person that posted the incident regarding coach Nieto, and I know that some of you will right away call it Nieto haters blog as you did last year which is total bull sh!!. I have one piece of advise for all of you that have kids being coached by this egotistical freak, you better look into this serious situation. This guy is probably the worse coach I have ever seen in my.life. I have seen a lot of styles of coaching, never where you have to be little a young man to satisfy his ego. Last year he drove families out of.this school and justified it by saying that it was because the kid could not compete. Parents some one has to expose this guy for what he really is. You can't be afraid that if you expose him it will put your kid on the bench.
How do you justify calling 15 and 16 year olds F ing zeros, F ing losers all because they didn't feed his ego. Too many families too many kids too many cases. There has to be something there. It is sad that you would let your kid be abused like this verbally just so that some of you dads can say my son is a starter. WOW!!! There was one of many incidents where he was called in to appolgize to a kid because of his toilet mouth. So many people talked about taken it as far as a law suit, but at the end weathered the year out. I will tell you.if it were my kid and was belittled like he has, he would be be doing more than limping' he'd be walking on his elbows. People he is not that great. The two CIFs were won by two yrs of jrs and srs already with a lot of talent. The minute he has a chance to coach, he makes up a line up of one freshman and a bunch of sophmores, having jrs and srs with more experience that could have done as good a job or better. Then we make the play off where most of his picks fell short. Lastly I heard a story that really should bring this home. After he, coach Nieto, not the kids lost the game there was an 86 year old lady that made a statement,,, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE PUT IN ANOTHER PITCHER. That's your USC throw away coach. Just call what I see

Inquiring mind for your information this controversy you speak about was started long ago this. Though I agree and I have said that the job belongs to the Sr and it's his to loose. I don't know how much you have seen of this team this year, but I have followed them from the start of summer and through out the season. Including all the 7 on.7s. I've said it before and I still stand by it, Rio is not the best qualified for the team next year. Though a very good prospect and if he even stays with the program, will be his class QB. Read my previous blog and understand that it is not only me saying this, there are others more knowledgible than myself that are saying it. If in fact you. Witnessed what I have this year, #16 has out performed both Jerry and Rio more times than I can count. I been in the stand close and personal. I've seen it and I was there. Where have you been? I do agree that you have to support Jerry because were 7-0 and again its his job to loose, THAT'S ONLY FAIR.

I know this a football blog, but I need to know what is going to be done with Andy Nieto, the Amat baseball coach. He is getting way out of hand with his actions. I observed Nieto swing at a Parent working security at the St. Bonnies game. The Parent asked Nieto in a playful manner "what he was doing on the football field "and Nieto began to verbally berate this dad, by saying "do you know who I`am" and took a swing at this dad. Nieto was under the influence of alcohol. He`s feeling very invincible right now, he continues to tell players that our disapointed with him that they can try to get rid of him, but it won`t happen. I ask you all, is this what Amat is all about? coaches drunk at a high school event without accountability. Mr. Manzo, the AD seems to be over looking these actions because they are good friends, well I say get rid of them both. I sent my child to Amat because of the long tradition of academics, athletics, integrity, and honor for family and self, which apparently Nieto lacks all except self! Please Amat faithful, let`s not let Nieto or any other staff member feel they our bigger than Bishop Amat. The only reason I put this on here is because certain people at Amat wants sweep this under the
rug. Which I will not let happen.

PS, My kid does not play baseball, so I don`t have any personal agenda in this. I only want people whom will do right by these kids, whether it be football, basketball or any other sport.

AMAT fan 4 life!

Proudfan - Are you speaking of Ruiz getting some QB time in the up coming games? Next years QB will undoubtedly be Ruiz, right? I say let Jerry Mac get all the reps he can. We want him sharp and ready come playoffs, right? Where are you coming from proudfan. I hope your not trying to stir up controversy?

Just happen to be reading some old postings and came across this thread. I had to add my two cents in. CO, I dont care what you think you got over there this year. AMAT's freshman team MOPS you up this year. Amat's talent is truely coming in from the ground up.

Ok call what yu see, what about this offense that they put together last night. I think it was the best I've seen all.season. Although I still think they should work in some plays for the QB that can still be part of this offense especially when he will truely be next yrs QB. What a game. GO LANCERS!!!

7-2, Bleeds blue&gold,
That was intended to be funny to Joe, didn't mean to stir up that much dust!

Amat Dudes…come on, enough with the paranoia. I analyzed the wins and losses of Amat’s opponents and other than adding the “D” comments to mess with you guys for fun, everything that I said is not only true, but points to Amat having a real chance at 10-0. For Pete’s sake, I predicted that Amat will go 10-0 so what more praise can I lavish upon the team?

The “downgrade of your opponents” is just more of your paranoia kicking in…I never said that the Serra is weak and actually tried to fend off that sort of paranoid response that I figured some of you guys would dream up…look closely at what I said about your Serra opponents…“hello…this is not saying that they aren’t good teams because they certainly are.”

Simple question, look at the scores and then tell us which wins by ND, Crespi and/or Loyola should we be impressed with? After seeing how Oak Klein is playing, do you still think that the ND’s win over them was impressive? How about Loyola’s loss last night to St. Francis? Did you know that Alemany was ranked higher than St. Francis in the Western Division (D3) and that they have already beat Crespi…sure you did so why the hating on me?

But, the lack of a quality win or close loses doesn’t mean that there isn’t a lot of fight in these teams, just instead, that they haven’t been able to beat any big dogs so far this year. And, in CONTEXT, I said that this bodes well for Amat’s chance at 10-0. Dude, it is what it is sometimes so accept the compliment. And, another nice win over Alemany…only 3 more wins and my prediction will be validated.

And please, you remember that CO played Amat a few short years ago so if they play nothing but bums doesn’t that include Amat…just wondering? And CO isn’t my school…said before I’m a Monrovia Wildcat…but off the top of my head I know a few things that compare favorably for CO…they have more students, a bigger parking lot, a bigger campus, a nice big park across the street, Ms. Wiard, Mr. Martinez, a nice baseball field…so how can you say NOTHING my friend? A little harsh aren’t we? Can I suggest that you increase the meds because you’re taking this blog stuff a little too serious and, frankly, it is getting spooky.

Here’s some more honestly, if CO doesn’t get their offense together they are going to have a real difficult time defending their title...oh no, here comes more of the cancer crapola.

So guys, fix the wedgies in your fruit of the loom’s and relax a little…they are only football games.

To COChargerfan

You are not fooling anyone. We know you hate Bishop Amat and you have proven so in the past. You should focus more on Charter Oak who squeaked by Diamond Ranch. If you ever needed an example of "far far superior level of football" last night was gold. Your Chargers barely survived. They would get slaughtered by this year's BA team. Now comes the part when you start talking about transitive properties and CO's injuries...

Come on now COChargerfan. You know all those facts and figures on the Serra and Pac-5 were behind one thing and one only. To down grade our accomplishments thus far this season and perhaps the chance of going undefeated . Why else would you make it a point of breaking down all of our opponents if not for the point of adding basis to your theory of Pac-5 and Serra being weak this season just in case we take it all. You have come on saying things on AMAT honks giving back handed replies well that's what your post has written all over it.No matter how you try to present it with your logic and reasoning and stats it still has that well bad smell to it for lack of a better term. So now you say after Alemany none of AMAT'S opponents appear to be tip top caliber teams. It's not the data that we dislike because in reality we know what all those teams are capable of on any Friday night, stats or data aside , it is the presentation by you that we dislike and your timing of it . As for that double edge sword maybe in 4 weeks God willing we will gladly take on Servite,Edison , Los Al or who ever is in front of us .The main kicker on this is that you have never really come out and said how well this team is performing or your special teams play is outstanding or I really thought St B's was going to take it to you but your team really showed just how good they really are this season. Or that staff is doing one hell of a job . Even your post of I really hope they get the title even though the rest of the valley will never hear the end of it . What is that suppose to mean . Explain that line to me or is it just another yuk yuk line . You know what you meant by it, just be man enough to really say what you mean.

AmatLancers,

Sorry for the delay, the score to the CO freshman vs Dranch game was 57-0, we also had our kids out by halftime. Last years CO freshman team was subpar, this year they just went crazy tons of skilled players and some huge big uglies. There is no doubt in these kids eyes that they are toe to toe with the Amat kids.

Best of luck to all the SGV Teams except for Diamond Ranch your going down.

CO BUM,
Look, you shouldn't even worry about Amat. It's out of your league (pun intended). You play small ball and we play big boy ball. So just do yourself a favor and stop typing about Amat. You have nothing to prove and have nothing you CAN prove other than for years CO has been playing bums and will continue to do so. Nothing at your school compares to Amat, and I mean nothing. So deal with it. BUM!

Oops, before Joey crushes me...I typed League again instead of Division for the Pac-5...maybe getting senile in my old age...there's one for the sharks to chew me up over...my admission to age related brain farts. But, doesn't change the facts.

EAST COAST LANCER...this is a thread about Amat and THEIR chance of winning THEIR next four games…three of which are against Serra league opponents…so why would I analyze CO or the Miramonte? I thought that I already explain this to CUP CAKE.

Sorry to disappoint you “turnabout”, but providing game results for this year and analyzing the records of teams, as in, the only wins a team has is against other teams with losing records, is not the Transitive Property…congratulations, you have leveled yet another baseless attack on my character. Come on, I’m trying to turn another leaf and you guys keep calling me out. Now I have to defend myself…I analyzed current data that reflects reality at the present time and not some Team A beat Team B in 2004 and Team B beat Team C in 2008, therefore, Team A will beat Team C in 2009 type “transitive” speculation…why are you attempting to drag us down that same road?

EAST COAST, are you disputing that Amat's upcoming Serra opponents do not have any impressive wins? If so, please name the impressive wins for us. Do you also have a problem with my reasoning that this bodes well for Amat?

Or, my comments that Alemany’s data supports that they are playing well this year so they look like the biggest challenge in the way of 10-0? Or, that some of the past big dogs of the Pac-5 are losing this year, which appears to indicate that they aren’t the same tip-top teams from prior years? Or, that this opens up the division to some new dogs on the block...including Amat and Edison...the latter is the #1 ranked team when last year they were 18th. Or, that these facts indicate a changing of the guard in the Pac-5?

My guess is none of the above, instead, your problem with me is that I have said that many Pac-5 teams have lost this year against so-called lower divisions, which is true, so the Pac-5 AS A LEAGUE isn’t, to use another phrase, a “world beater”...isn’t that right? And, not happy with me other posting of scores that indicate that the real “competition” in the 29-team Pac-5 is only at the top with the bottom half-teams being nothing special?

Your perception that I’m anti-Amat and anti-Pac 5 is dead wrong. Because, I have praised the Pac-5 saying it contains some of the strongest teams in the State, which it does, and I have continually wished Amat nothing but success. But, your problem is that you don’t like that I’m the messenger who is posting data that is contrary to the “far, far, far superior” argument, which I’ve renamed “world beater” because the “far” was getting stale...isn’t that right?. Anyone recall how this whole far, far, far superior discussion got started? How about you EAST COAST? I’ll tell you how…it was over my response to the assertion that the level of play in the televised SO Notre Dame vs. Oak Klein Texas on Sept. 7th proved that the Pac-5 played ball at some heavenly level, that is, compared to all the other SGV teams. And I said that what I saw wasn’t some far, far, far superior level, which brought out the wolves in packs.

In RETROSPECT (EAST COAST, this is not the transitive property), since Oak Klein presently is 1-6 with their only win being over another 1-6 team, is it not possible that I was right? And, doesn’t this fact diminish the quality of the SO Notre Dame win vs. Oak Klein? Anyone care to dispute this logical conclusion? And, this bodes well for Amat in their quest to beat them this year?

Perhaps EAST COAST and CUP CAKE should get together and demand that MaxPreps stop posting data for the Pac-5 and other teams like Oak Klein and then you’ll have the censorship that you appear to covet.

The bottom line is stop hating on me because you don’t like the data that shows that Amat's Serra opponents look more average this year than in year’s past (hello…this is not saying that they aren’t good teams because they certainly are)...which is the same data that points to the real possibility of a 10-0 season. It is a two-edged sword but would you rather be playing Edison, Servite and Los Alamitos the next three weeks?

Good luck tonight.

That is the scary part going into league play and tonites Alameny game. If one of the three amigos goes down it would be tough for Amat to recover. Losing a Darian Johnson to a injury would be a catastrophy, Amat would be losing at least 50% of their scoring power. Losing Jerry McClanahan,, you could replace Jerry with Rio but he is very green and untested. Losing Jay Anderson and what? you go to Johnson or Shay. Amats three key people must stay healthy if they are going to make a run at this Serra league championship and beyond. The Cazares kid in the secondary (lil Ronnie Lott) also must stay healthy. Good Luck tonite Lancers stay fresh stay healthy and Win another one for the SGV

All Blue,
No way would that scenario happen. It would only leave Johnson to concentrate on DB and Special Teams and let him rest for offense. We had a scare a week or two ago when he came limping off the field with a slight ankle twist but he got right back into the game. Even IF Wallace could play DB, he would go to the other side of the field and compliment DJ, not compete aginst him.

ALL BLUE,
with the way the "team" concept is seemingly woven into the program, i doubt that johnson would quit under those circumstances. i would also think there'd be room for both of them to flourish on the offensive side of the ball and on the "team". if, by chance, johnson did leave the team, i'd venture to say that bishop amat would certainly survive, but without one of its better athletes. hasn't this happened at bishop amat before, talented players leaving the program? i excited about the game tonight. should be a great one.

JOE,
Looks like like we avoided tragedy! After reading your last post, could'nt help but think if that happened to us. What if Gonzalez was approved, starts at wide receiver and D Johnson quits! Man that would hurt, we got lucky on that one!!!

ON BLUE!!!

Either way you cut it, Serra league has some top D-I prospects. There is an ebb and flow to everything. Could the league not be as strong as years past? Sure, but I can assure you that almost ANY coach would be willing to take over ANY one of these programs if given the chance.

Does anyone know if Amat has any upcoming star players?

Interesting CIF transfer approval.

Sophomore Dylan Lagarde, who began the season as the starting quarterback at Long Beach Poly transferred to Los Alamitos, played two JV games and was approved for eligibility by the CIF office.

When Lagarde was named the starting quarterback the previous starter, Senior Dylan Cook, quit the team.

http://is.gd/4xZGo

Amat Frosh 48 Diamond Ranch Frosh 0 for you that asked. We put away the game in the first quarter and put in our reserves for most of the game.I'm sure we would have scored another 40 points had we kept our first team in.

Now may I asked how the CO frosh did? I'm sure the CO frosh team does not want anything to do with this Amat frosh now, or the next 3 years.

SGV FOOTBALL

It was 49-0........at half time. Ended somewher in the 50/60 to nothing area

Hypathetically speaking,

If Amat comes out and takes it to Alameny with a lopsided victory then what will it take to convince others that Amat is for real this year.

I see Amat winning this game convincingly.

Amat 31
Alameny 17

Now if we were to analyze why this guy is turning around it is obviously a veiled attempt at downplaying the toughness of the Serra League in the even Amat does have some success he can say "See I told you the Serra wasn't that good". And he played that transition property game he hates so much-didn't he?

This is off the subject but I want to know if any amat fans could tell me the score of the Freshman Amat Vs. DRanch game. I want to see what the difference in scoring was compared to CO Freshman was.

COCupcakefan

If you haven't noticed, Amat fans tend to be on the more educated side. They have read your past anti-Amat, anti-Pac-5 posts. You cannot seriously expect us to believe that you are now simply analyzing the Serra. All you have been doing thus far is attempt to belittle BA's accomplishments as well as the Pac-5 in general. And now, you are attempting to belittle the Serra league by way of Maxpreps analysis. You are not fooling anyone, sir.

If you have not noticed, you've stood alone. The reason for this is that the vast majority of CO fans KNOW the type of competition going on in the Pac-5. The reason they KNOW is because they remember the 2004-2005 62-7 pounding they suffered at the hands of sub-par (by Pac-5 elite standards) Bishop Amat teams.

You want to discuss statistics, I got one for you. The Serra's preseason schedules may not impress you but the fact is that they have at least defeated their opponents. With the exception of Charter Oak, the Miramonte League has a combined 7-17 win/loss record against some of the weakest teams in southern cali.

Why don't you analyze that? Why don't you show us a breakdown of the Miramonte Leagues competitions and explain to us why Charter Oak is going to go undefeated in league...

I'm just joking. That would be incredibly boring...

Amat Frosh 38 Alemany Frosh 20. Another win for the undefeated frosh team. We are 7-0 and we expect our varsity to do the same tomorrow night. They have big and very athletic kids but our stingy defense put them in check and our speedy backs killed them. Great game, we were leading 22-0 in the first quarter but those Alemany kids never quit.

The closest they got was 30-20 in the 4th QTR, but a couple of key turnovers at the last few minutes of the game gave us good field position. Another score by one of our speedy backs put the game away for good in the final minute 38-20.

Great game Team and Coaches! 7-0 and 3 more games left.

Go Lancers!

Hey I like the fact that this is an Amat only blog. Notice all the haters crawled into their holes?

I have two questions: 1) Why is everyone responding to a bum from CO and 2) Why are we talkin about anything other than playing Alemany tomorrow. Yeah, I think we should win, but I don't even want to think about anything else but THAT win. This other stuff is what gets teams beat. I hope the team isn't thinking like this. Let's get this win tomorrow, then work on the next one and so on!

Hey GET OUT, CUPCAKE...wow, I post an honest analysis of Amat's upcoming opponents, which is what this thread is about, and you and Amat 73 get your panties in a bunch. And, my opinion is a thumbs up that Amat has a very good shot at 10-0. In return, I get a blast with your opinion as to who gets to post comments, which is as worthless as the rest of your inane garbage. Please read MaxPreps or, if that is too difficult for you...just read the scores that I provided which will save you an hour of research. In fact, I really recommend that everyone spend some time on MaxPreps because it is an incredible provider of free information on the whole high school sports scene. The scores that I provided speak for themselves, which is, Amat’s UPCOMING opponents do not have any impressive wins (they don’t) so, USING THAT INFORMATION, I extrapolated that Amat has a very real chance at 10-0. Has nothing to do with bagging on the Serra and, instead, just reviews Amat’s opponents…three of which are in the Serra…what do you want me to do, analyze how Amat would play against the Miramonte or San Antonio teams? Geez…is it too much to ask for you to think with your brain for once and not with your fists?

New name,

Hugs and kisses baby....and a big Smooch to you too!

Anyway, running a little bit late, but off to see Azusa and Gladstone !

Yeah, make no mistake, COChargerfan does not support Bishop Amat. I agree with AMAT 73...He's attempting to downplay the Serra League. He has already attempted to downplay the St. Bonnie's victory, Pac-5, Mater Dei/Orange Luthern, etc.

COChargerfan does not know Pac-5 ball. He's never been to an Amat or Pac-5 game. He's from a school whose toughest and highest ranked opponent in the last 20 years was this years, Rancho Cucamonga. And now, all of a sudden, he's analyzing the Serra!!! LOL! Is he for real? Maxpreps must have magical powers!

COChargerfan...you have on more than one occasion insulted the Amat Family. I especially liked your post about the one Amat teacher that did not have teaching credentials. You remember?...it was right after the St. Bonaventure game.

Do us a favor...grab your stuff and get the hell out of here. This is LANCER territory and you are not welcome.

Respect to Bulldogs, Panthers, Huskies, Spartans, and Tartans.

New name for the jokester.
jcaz is now know as kizzazz. Pucker up baby.

Thank you jcaz. Joey looks like a push over compared to Amat 73. Oh well, you can't please everyone. Amat is going to find out the answer to whether the current versions of ND and Crespi are living on past laurels...certainly, they are still very good teams...just not the big dogs of the past few teams. Regarding the big dogs, lots of the top Pac-5 from years past are going to have multiple losses...parity or are there some new dogs on the block? It would be nice to see Amat beat their nemesis...all in a year that they thought was going to be a wash...will Miracle on Ice repeat and they also get a Title? I've only read reviews and not seen them play but Edison looks really good. I've said this before, even though the rest of the SGV will never hear the end of it, I really hope that Amat gets another title.

COChargerfan

I would say that that is a very well thought out analysis of Amats potential to go 10-0.

I genuinely like it, if only because I truly believe that they have a legitimate shot at running the table this year.

Yup, Co-fan, not bad, but I guess that the most impressive thing about this post of yours is that you’re sticking to football this time around and not to animal sacrifices nor to homo erotic metaphors, ha ha ha, just kidding there dude ok.

Anyway, good stuff there and you might (someday….when hell freezes over perhaps ???) turn Joe Amat into believing that you have some potential in this blog, in much the same way that King Stud did.

COChargerfan,
There you go again. What makes you so sure the the cancer post was from an AMAT honk. I read where SGVFOOTBALL a known CO supporter put dr rogers in his place on the Rufus post and you come on right after dr r and add to it with names and a description of what happened and you heard he was upset about receptions during the game ( again with your second had information).SGVFOOTBALL didn't mention you because the timing of his post shows he was writing while you had already posted or he probably would have thrown your name in there also.I think what he is trying to say is let's not air our laundry in public and keep it within the team where it belongs but you see fit to blast him on his thoughts. To me that cancer post about you has CO backer written all over it. Because as far as we are concerned we have Alemany and others to worry about not CO . When the game is scheduled then and only then we will worry about CO. So now I see where you are laying the foundation to down grade us if we are fortunate enough to go unbeaten as simply beating sub par teams. Well I must say you have got a real case of AMAT jealousy and envy and we are so far in your head you can't even think about any other thing then bashing AMAT whether it be truth or a figment of your twisted imagination. How much time did you spend researching all that just to put AMAT down. I hope and pray we go undefeated just to see your post on that topic. Another thing is now you are using the guilt by association as to your if I am a cancer then so are the 1000 people who saw the game. One thing which is what you care to avoid is the other 998 people didn't post it on the blog only you and dr r did . So yes you and dr r are both guilty by association. So now HOW ABOUT THAT GOLF GAME.

amused reader...this is a discussion about Amat's chance at 10-0 and CO isn't on their schedule, so why do you need to bring up Amat vs. CO?

I'm not saying that CO would or would not win IF they played this year but what evidence are you relying upon for your 14 point CO loss prediction? How can you be certain that CO wouldn't lose by only 7 or 3 points? Or, perhaps get extremely lucky enough to stay close and then win with a 45 yard field goal as the horn sounds? Who really knows unless they play?

I’m just not into predictions maybe because during my life I’ve witnessed some unbelievable upsets in sports, we’re talking “Miracle on Ice” no way, impossible stuff…which is why the games get played.

If Amat gets by Alemany...then 10-0 is in their reach...if they make it is it too late to get an Amat window-sticker?

I believe Amat has a good crack at going 10-0 myself. The boys in blue have been making remarkable improvements each week, especially on defense and special teams. The Cazares kid is undeniably something special, hard nosed and an unselfish player. If he were 6' 0" or taller, he'd have every major college knocking at his door.

A big win over Alemany would set the stage and race for the Serra league crown. Each and every game is a dueable win. Stay healthy, strong and stay focused!

I'm still waiting for McClanahan and offense to come out firing on all cylinders and I think they will surprise many this week for Homecoming against Alemany, when they start clicking, WATCH OUT! We have home advantage, we have the best coaching staff, we have homecoming and we have the best team in the SGV so we will be ready to RUMBLE!

I'm heading down to Mission Hills to see the Frosh game and will be reporting the results after the game.

Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue and Gold.

GO BIG BLUE!

Amat cheats? They're a private school and can get whoever they want to go there. Cheating is getting tranfers who don't live in the public school area they are trying to transfer to. Still I think Amat will be lucky to finish 8-2 with the schedule they have left. But they would beat CO by at least 14 points. That's on a down year.

FYI, this wasn't a team issue as it happened in public so if I'm a cancer to CO than so are the other 1,000 people that saw the very same thing as I did...find something more intelligent to blast me about. And, Rufus is practicing with the team and not going anywhere...so cooler heads did prevail...sorry to disappoint the Amat haters who are always looking for some inane and lame reason to take pot shots at CO.

Since this is an Amat blog, I’ll analyze their remaining opponents (not in the order of play), as it certainly appears that they have a legit shot at 10-0. Hey GURU, let me know how I did.

Starting with SO Notre Dame (ranked 30th in State)…talk about a weak schedule, other than the two TD loss to a very good D4 Moorpark, who have they played? That big win to open the season against Klein Oak Texas…not really…that team is 1-6, Taft is 3-3, Birmingham is 0-6 and Dominguez is 1-4. So a squeaker over a good D3 team like St. Francis wasn’t that much of a surprise.

Now Crespi (ranked 83rd in State) is 3-3 with wins over the 1-5 Lancaster, the 0-6 Birmingham and the 1-5 Saugus. And they lost last week to Alemany. Not all that impressive.

So, the real question is whether ND and Crespi are living on past laurels and the current versions are simply overrated.

Alemany (ranked 57th in state) is 4-2 with losses to Oaks Christian and Harvard-Westlake…both very good teams despite their D10 level. Alemany has wins over 3-3 Kennedy, 3-3 Knight (previously, I had never heard of this school…maybe because they’re ranked 365th in the State), 3-3 Taft and, of course, Crespi.

Loyola (ranked 39th in state) is 3-3 with wins over Mira Costa a D3 school that’s 4-2, the 3-3 St. John Bosco whose wins are over 1-5 Damien, 0-7 Cabrillo and 3-3 St. Paul…who lost to the D9 La Mirada team and has wins over 3-4 Garfield, 2-4 Pioneer and 4-3 Paraclete…a small school that plays in D11…wasn’t someone saying on another thread that Paraclete should play 8 man football?

From the above, we can glean that not Notre Dame, Crespi nor Loyola has a win against a quality opponent.

Alemany has lost to but been competitive with two very good lower division teams, which earns them my superior stars. And, they beat Crespi but considering that Crespi’s wins are all over losing teams…I just can’t give them any stars for this game.

So none of Amat’s remaining opponents appear to be tip-top caliber teams this year…so if they get by Alemany then 10-0 looks like a cake-walk. Then CIF starts…with Edison in the way of that elusive title. But, maybe, just maybe…because everyone has the same chance when the helmets get strapped up.

Kiefer Stadium is a tough place to play...
they have not lost at home this season or last season...

*** AMAT- DO NOT RESPOND TO HATER BLOGS. ***

under coach hags amat has not lost at home all of last season as well as this season. they will not loose a home game this year. might loose against crespi away but very close. by predection amat 9-1 or 10-0.

under coach hags amat has not lost at home all of last season as well as this season. they will not loose a home game this year. might loose against crespi away but very close. by predection amat 9-1 or 10-0.

Riddler it's so obvious how insanely jealous you are. That is probaby what happens all all the BA haters. You should come clean dude and just admit that you wish you were part of the Amat clan. I guess you will just have to keep wishing and just get over it. It's not healthy to keep this inside. Have a beer and just chill you poor Azz Hole.

On a more serious note I see our guys going 8-2 but wouldn't surprize me if they went all the way only if the offense picks it up.

6-4 and crushed on the road in plyoffs. amat sucks. werd up.

i get the feeling that bishop amat's team is on the verge of something special. when you watch them play, they have the ingredients for greatness. often times, it's not about athleticism, but rather team building and understanding. that's what i mean in regards to bishop amat's opportunity. these last four games will give the greatest insight into whether or not the program has restored its great tradition or still on the verge of accomplishing that. i, for one, believe this team is about restoring that great tradition. i don't know what the record will be in the end. i would not, however, be surprised in the slightest bit if this group of young men won out. only time will tell. the ride will be a fun one for sure.

Alemany isn't a league game until next year-but they are tough.
3-0, 2-1, 1-2, 0-3 would not surprise me. The league is that balanced and good.
Notre Dame only beating St Francis by 4 was a surprise. Crespi giving up 40+ is a good sign. Loyola's without Barr, although playing better recently. All games are winnable - or losable.

Amat is 6-0 but the league games are tough just like the other blogger mentioned. No doubt we are the underdogs but that's what makes this season so special. In fact, the lancers were underdogs last year with and they were full of surprises. It's very exciting to see the tradition be restored at a very proud football program. It's been a long time waiting. This current staff should have been here approx.three or four years when Amat was loaded with potential talent. And every year, the list of former Amat players in college continues to grow. Like one blogger mentioned in a earlier comment , UCLA & Arizona will feature some former Amat players. Good luck Lancers in your 10-0 quest, and good luck to the college players (Price, Bowens, Bennett, Austin, Liehart) this weekend. Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue And Gold.

I say 7-3. Amat has gotten their ass handed to them by Notre Dame so thats probably a loss. Crespi wants revenge for last year. I think Amat will beat Loyola but barely. Alemeny is real tough, i say that is a loss as well. Its a tough league.

Joe, I hear you, and it is true we must win in league play and control our own destiny, but as I mentioned Amat I believe is a one or two seed out of the Serra this year, and should it become another 3rd place finish like last year we will get that at-large bid based on that win over St. Bonnies. That win last year over Orange Lutheran did the Lancers well to get in as the at-large bid coming out of the Serra. Last year was Hagertys first year, this being his second year the foundation is getting stronger at Amat the belief is there with the staff and players and this year they will do one up better then last year. A one or 2 seed is there for the taking this year and I believe the Lancers are smelling the finish line. What Happens with Alameny counts on record but League wise this Lancer team barring no major injuries is on track and ready to compete and play the likes of Loyola, Crespi and Notre Dame.

Riddler - Seeing as how you're probably very good at working over meat sticks and with you being so witty and all, I probably better just bow out now before you get all Riddler Crazy and drop an Amat Sucks Haiku on me! Ha! What a Bafoon!

Lance R,

We still have to get it done in league. The 4th place team in the Serra League is eliminated by rule. CIF cannot accept a 4th place team over a 3rd place team regardless of any pre-league successes. Our last year with the OC schools we beat Mater Dei and Loyola (the eventual Champion) finished 6-4 lost coin flips and Santa Margarita went to the playoffs at 5-5.

The 3rd place team has a pretty good chance and typically it is between the Serra and Trinity because of the strength of the leagues - top to bottom. Not a rule... but a rule of thumb. But this year the Sunset league is doing well and the Newport Harbor upset over Los Al throws that league in a tizzy. Should Los Al or Fountain Valley end up in 4th - they could be considered too.

Bottom line is it's no time to rest on anyones laurels after a 6-0 start. Now the real work begins. Get a bit more momentum this Friday with a steady performance and head into league with our eyes on the prize. Great news is I think we've played a little better every week are headed in the right direction and are up to the challenge

say it aint so Holmes. amat wont get past Azusa if they played this year. Who cares about how many games they will win. All I know is that they are the same as gladstone and workman. They are all 1 & out in the playoffs doesn't matter what cif bracket you play in. BA could go 10 and 0 but 1 thing is sure they are 1 and out just like last year.

I am hoping Amat is on fire and goes 10-0 the rest of the way. How sweet would that be. Alameny, Loyola, Crespi and S.O. Notre Dame. 3 of the 4 remaining games at home gives the Lancers a good shot at that 10-0, remember they are not a bad road team. Beating Crespi at Crespi is very doable. The remaining 4 teams (players and coaches) on Bishop Amats schedule have been hearing about this Amat team all season especially after that win over St. Bonaventure. These teams know Bishop Amat is not the same program it was before Hagerty took over and yes they know about last years Poly game. Amat is being taken very serious in league play as one that can take the Serra league championship. The real true test is Alameny (non league game), a team that played Oaks Christian very tough, this is a good Alameny team, from there Amat enters league and takes it one game at a time. Yes they could go 10-0 9-1,8-2,7-3 or 6-4.. but rest one thing for sure without a doubt, Amat is in the playoffs for a second straight year. The win over Bonnies sealed that at-large spot already. My gut guess tho is that they go no less then the number 2 seed out of the Serra. Yes bashers Amat is a one or two seed this year, count on it. Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue And Gold.

SGV FOOTBALL,
Don't blame dr. r because COChargerfan blasted it out on the guru thread the Saturday after the game. I think COCF is a cancer to CO.

Hey Cochargerfan, unreal and others, This blog is about Bishop Amat not Charter oak. Dont go away mad, just go away.

SGV FOOTBALL...this is not a secret and it is what it is. If he's leaving, talking or not talking about it won't change a thing. Let's just hope that this kid finds inner peace before his head destroys the opportunities that his physical talent can provide him.

Uh Oh! Seems not everything is as rosy as it seems over at Charter Oak. Ms. Wiard is an awesome educator (She was one of my teachers at Amat) I'm sure she will try to do whats best for the student and Charter Oak.

If not... I'm sure she knows a good football school she can refer him to...

Go Amat!!!

BTW... The patch of bright red in the picture is a great reason why Amat home games are better than any other teams in the SGV, aside from the Football of course. In-N-Out and Football, what more can you ask for.

How many current Amat coaches were assistant coaches during an Amat CIF championship season?

dr r rogers,

Are you serious? This is something that needs to be kept between the the team, coaching staff and the parents. You come on here and start putting your own teams players on blast. Come on we were at the game we saw what happened, but no one has said anything until you opened your mouth and spilled the beans douche. Next time you hear something negative about your kids team make sure that it stays off the blog!

Hey dr r rogers, I don;t know if you saw it but right before the half Rufus had a meltdown on the sideline on Friday night...Big Lou, Pricipal Wiard and Rufus's mom wound up talking to him but he still threw his helmet down and was attempting to take off his jersey. Surprisingly, he came out dressed for the second half but did not play. I heard that he was upset over not getting downs at receiver...did you hear the reason? He was out of the offense as CO was running a lot of plays with a two receiver set with Brown and Thropay (both around 6'5") apparently to attack Bonita's smaller corners. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail.

Hey WOW,

It tool all of 15 min max to dream up and jot it down. I'm not as stupid as you apparently are. 15 min? Thats about how long it will take for your season to unravel,that is your long overdue but well expected tank job to begin. 2 losses in league and you'll be sitting out or at-large just waiting to get your hearts ripped out of your chest again. Hush your mouth now boy, before you embarass Amat as I work you over like a rib.

Amat has a great chance of going 10-0 with the kid of ball they are playing at this point in the season. They look as good in the 4th quarter as they do in the first and they are "extreamly" well coached and very disciplined. The Lancers are conditioned and healthy and most importantly they believe in themselves. If you never seen them play then you have no idea what I talking about and maybe you should witness before blogging.

Can't predict the future as you know anything can happen on a Friday night game but I do know the Men in Blue will finish strong and make a run for the league title. Hags and staff will keep them focused on the prize. Good luck to you Men on Friday and hopefully we will be 7-0 after the game. To Wow , isn't it funny how much time these haters spend thinking about AMAT. It truely is amazine the time and sometimes thought that goes into their anti AMAT posting and then some have the nerve to come on here and write who cares about AMAT.

Just hear dennis rufus wants to leave the mighty charter oaks. I hope not because they will be losing the best corner in the area we needhis guy to stay put. And believe me when I tell u he is leaving my son is on the team.

Riddle me this - who just made you waste 2 hours of your day thinking up that Lame @ss poem and another hour for you to put your thoughts on the blog? AMAT! That's who! Riddler, what an Imbecile!!!

Last time i checked the whole SGV is the neighborhood.

WHO CARES THEY CHEAT THEY SHOULD BE GOOD. FREDDY YOU ARE A FRONT RUNNER!
LET'S TALK ABOUT TEAMS THAT TAKE KIDS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORK HARD WITH THEM!

They fall from grace,
right on thier face,
they go 6-4,
to get booted right out,
of the playoff door,
we all have the last laffs,
at those poor sorry sapps,
yeah, yeah, thats about right!
Choke and turn Blue!!!!!

10-0 is the only way to go!!!

ON BLUE!!!