Who's next at Los Altos? I'm throwing out four names that I would consider

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Stark at Wilson,
Fred where are you on this one. How come you didn't break this story?

Old news x-LA star, Matt Stark got the baseball head coach job at Wilson a few months ago.

Interesting, just talked to my source at LA. He told me that Bobby Godinez is one of the front runners for the LA job. That being said, the school administration must have had a change of hart, when it comes to recruiting. Their is no way Bobby would take the job unless he would be allowed to recruit. He has made it very clear that LA can't win with the talent they have or can pull from within the local community.

This source is a proven source. He is the one that told me that Felipe was gone on Monday when Felipe didn't announce it til that Friday, and Fred got all u pset at my comment and deleted it.

fyi - psuedo-historian

LA was dropped from Big 5 for geographic reasons, not strength of program. Much like why they were recently dropped into the Southeastern Division to make it all SGV.

Both Big 5, and Southern championship games were held at Anaheim Stadium the same weekend. Big 5 Friday night, and Southern Saturday night. After both LA, and Servite won, Despain, and LA Admin pushed hard on Servite to play a "winner take all" game for the Socal "crown" in mid/late December. Beurlein, and Company wanted nothing to do with LA after watching them take apart Esperanza Saturday night.

One more thing Stark lined up wide on more than one occasion.

also there in the day,

Just because you went to the school doesn't mean you were local you are dead wrong about a few I have pictures to prove it.

That team with Smith was good, but let's also remember that Los Altos was dropped from the Big-5 (Division1) to the Southern Division. Servite with Steve Beurlein defeated Long Beach Poly that year and Bishop Amat in the next year to win the Division 1 Championship. Earlier LA championships were in the highest division. It would have been fun to see the Pernell Taylor Lancers v Los Altos game like in the mid 70's (75?). Didn't Amat knock LA out of the playoffs in OT? IS that the only time they met in the playoffs?

reason

6'10" QB was obviously MIke Smith (local)
6'6" WR was Darren Davis (local)
(Sorry, only one tall WR)
5'11" WR was Don White (local)
6'5" TE was Matt Stark (local)
Phil Estrada - RB (local)
Rick Scurto(sp) - RB (local)
Donnie (Mad Dog) Sheffler - CB (local)
Don White - CB (local)
Darren Davis - Safety (local)
Al Lino - Safety (local)
+
Fitzgerald
Morales
Benson... locals...

In reality, as powerful as the offense was Mike Smith took very few snaps in the second halfs as the games were already decided. The defense was the backbone of the team, but was overlooked because the O.

Clueless,

You can bash the previous coach all you'd like.

The fact remains -- in 2009 LA was one play away from a playoff spot, and they tripled their wins from 2008.

Would this positive trend have continued into 2010?

Would the young coaching staff have produced better results with one more year of seasoning and moving into an easier league?

...maybe .500?

We'll never know.

Churning football coaches is not the best recipe for success. The best *public* programs in SGV (CO & SH) have long tenured staffs.

We'll see where this goes.

Then what you are really saying is Felipe is a great coach. Then how is LA going to get any better hiring a new coach. Felipe was just one play away from potential 'coach of the year'.

What are you really saying about the talent at LA. If a coach goes 4-6 and named coach of the year what are you really saying about the talent he had to work with.

football jones,

You are trying to say if Felipe would have went 4-6, one play away from that then

"Felipe would probably be named as potential 'coach of the year'"

Please don't put "football" infront of your screen name, may "Clueless Jones"

football jones,

Let’s take a different view of those facts. In 2008 Felipe's first year LA went 1-9. In 2009 3-7, this 3-7 team is a much weaker team than the 1-9 team. If you are playing a weaker opponent then the odds of you winning more games goes up. For example the 2007 Northview teams were way more talented than the 2008 Northview team. I personally think Felipe isn't that bad of a coach but the talent just isn't their. The 2010 LA team talent wise is going to be even weaker than the 2009 and 2008 team. As far as future talent, look at your local youth programs. One team made the playoffs from all the local programs and they were one and out. The talent in this area just isn't their. The only chance LA for that matter any local program has is coaching up the kids. Is it possible for a well coached LA team to make the playoffs? Yes, but at best one or two and out. I just don't see the talent in the community to compete with the DRanch and WCov teams. Now the other teams are going to cycle up and down, for example Rowland has one more good year. After that senior class that program is going down hill for the next few years. That is going to give LA a chance for that third or fourth spot in league.

Now is that going to be acceptable for LA Fans, third or fourth place in league. Make it to the first or second round of the playoffs. Anything more than that in the next five years just isn't realistic.

LOL,
Just to advise the person you are talking about isn't me. He isn't the only person over at Wilson that thinks you guys have you head's up your a@@. For that matter you are clueless about the LA/Wilson game, he was fighting to keep it. Trust me that is the last game he wants to drop off Wilson's schedule. On the other hand I am one of the many that wanted that game removed. We are more concerned with our kid’s safety than beating you guys.

'LA Alumn '....speaks the truth.

All this talk of LA not having any talent must be tempered with facts.

Fact1: 2009 LA team was 1 win (maybe 1 play) from making playoffs -Lost to Bonita in last minute of game.

Fact2: If LA defense held (see fact1), then team made playoffs, **NONE** of these conversations would be taking place.

Fact3: Had fact 1&2 occurred, Felipe would probably be named as potential 'coach of the year'

So close, and yet so far....

Fact4: LA Program was moving in right direction(2008 = 1 win, 2009 = 3 wins)...positive trend is good.

Let's give Felipe some credit; he inherited a mess and more importantly didn't make excuses or place blame...He was a good soldier.

Go Conqs !!!!

LA Future;

Jump ship? oh you mean like you and your kid did, when he could'nt start at LA.

Dude your a joke. Why not just worry about your Wilson team? Just let it go. We'll do the best we can with are "no talent" LA team. (Sarcasm here, incase you don't pick up on it)

By the way, did you ever make sure Wilson does not have to play LA ever again?

LOL

Listen to what all you LA supporters are saying;

LA didn't get all the talent in the area if they would have they would have been great. Let's talk a little about the Gilmore situation. Gilmore's junior year he ran for almost 2,000 yards at Wilson. His senior year wasn't because of the players it was because of the coaching. Interesting because that was the year that LA went what 1-9. I guess with Gilmore you would have gone what 3-7, big deal. You guys over at LA think you desire all the local talent. Well sorry those days are long gone. Especially with the success that the LP program had this year. Now the projected success that the Wilson program is going to have with the league realignment. How can LA expect to compete when they aren't going to be allowed to recruit? The last 35 years of success at LA is based on recruiting.

LA Alumn,

I don't know what to say, are you just stupid or what. Well then again you may be right, enough talent to compete. Your not going to get blown out of 1/2 of your games. Are you going to win any league or CIF titles NO WAY. Are you going to make the playoffs, maybe three four years down the line, but one and out.

No lets talk about your returning talent next year. Your two best players are average players in your league. By the way both kids are recruited kids from out of the area, YES RECRUITED. How can you possible expect to compete next year with your returning talent?

Yea, that whole ring business. That was a great one. I noticed you didn't go into detail on that, I will do that for you. During the summer of your 08' season, Felipe's first year as head coach. He told all the kids that they were plenty good enough to win a CIF Championship and bring home a ring. So all the LA players went around town talking about this CIF championship that they were going to win. Well do I need to say any more, you ended up 1-9, the beginning of the end.

Another interesting point is Wilson and La Puente are the football schools of the future, hands down. These two programs in their league can compete and can WIN. La Puente proved that this year with their 8-2 record. Wilson has proven that over the years being that most of the non-league games (they won) in the past are now league games. Now I do believe LA has a few teams in their new league that they will compete with, but the majority of the teams LA has no chance against.

If you somehow get a great coach and staff, and really coach up the kids two three years down the line yea you might make the playoffs. Winning another CIF championship with the kids you got in the league you are in, no way.

The other major issue you are going to have to deal with is just keeping the kids you got now. Let's be honest, these kids came to LA to win, not rebuild a program. Those kids that live out of area will jump ship in a second. As your program has seen over the past few years.

ok im glad we all got off felipes back. he became capt of a sinking ship when gano jumped off. if u remember right his frist team in 08 could have won games. they had some really good runs but lost the momentum.the couldda won the first three games and couldda beat bonita diamond ranch or south hills if they would have done simple stuff like tackle and catch balls. if they dont did do that then thats not coach aguilars fault. and i think he did a great job with the 09 team that was supposed to go 0-10. they had the playoffs in their hands and gave bonita a scare. so he raced really good wit the old beat up car he inherited. but he was way in over his head to expect a ring being his first year. and hiring godinez would b hiring anothher gano. that would b like when we voted bush back in 04. los altos has enough talent to compete in their new league. all they need is a team with leaders not slackers and they must b well coached. the new coach would need to b experienced himself but bring along a great staff with him. and the admin needs to show some support. n the AD needs to open his mind. but rome was not built in a year so patience is needed.

And yes I can name names but wont and they were multiple sport athletes. Think back now in those days a coach had no problem picking kids up and taking them to school,practice you name it shoot I know coaches who funded a whole family for three years. Nobody would question nothing in those days lets be real about it.

there in the day,

82 83' I also was there and yes LA recruited heavily from the surrounding area I know for a fact. Went to elementary and Junior High with several of those kids who some how ended up in the heights? The recruiting was done a little earlier than most. The class of 83'team beat Esperanza in Anaheim. Of Course they had a 6'10" QB and two 6'"5 wide receivers and a Oline not much smaller.

Fact of the matter is, LA does not get the best players in the district anymore. Gilmore went to Wilson, Hrey went to La Puente, Bradford went to Workman. Had LA suited up those three players together we would all be sticking our chests out right now. Insteed, Gilmore and Bradford got beaten to death behind subpar lines and Hrey had more passes dropped than any other QB in the SGV. Sorry, but the truth is the truth.

Fred already said what he thought and why
Arellanes=had a tough year and has considered other alternatives in recent years.

Brandon Rohrer=a program guy who did a wonderful job improving the Warriors

Erick Escamilla or former Lancers coach Mark Verti= both might be ready to step back in the coaching circle.

what more do you want?

Okay Freddy boy, you started a very interesting thread. I dont even mind the little games by the Saints coaches. But you throw questions out and offer no reasons or support. Question. Why did you throw out those four coaches? Give some background or support for your thought process. Lots of names being battered about by all, even kicked by some. Step up Fred and lets see how you think. Be specific.

Hey Los Altos you recruited those Bishop Amat players in 2007. Boy that really worked our for you ..no playoffs. Tamato Tamayo at QB what a team that was. Sometimes recruits are not all cracked up to be what they are supposed to be ..dont get me started on Blake Tillis either, The next Vince Young....my a$$

East of Hacienda Heights is Wilson area, just like La Puente is La Puente High School and Workman High School area. What are you trying to say if they live close but not in your area it is ok.

Now I will give you that team only pulled kids from the local community, not like most of Despains other teams that pulled from as far as Durate.

Once again splitting hairs....

East of Hacienda Blvd. is still Hacienda Heights.

To late to call the guy that was on that team. He stated the team was loaded with all the kids from Hacienda Heights JAA and a few kids from LP(LP High School). Interesting how you bring up La Puente but not the kids from east of Hacienda Blvd(Wilson).

Are we tring to split hairs or what ....

Recruiting .....

Name the kids out of LP's area...

There in the day,

That '82 team did have all LOCAL talent on it. The kids on that team came out of the La Puente/Hacienda Heights area not the LA attendence area. Did Despain win with LA kids?

NO .....

Not Possible

You all give DeSpain way too much credit when it comes to recruiting. You have to remember the demographics of the SGV back in the 70's/80's were on par with today's demographics in South Orange County. There was no lacking for homegrown studs in Hacienda Heights back in the day. Plus, kids were way more likely to play multiple sports back then, than they are today. The 1982 team was the best team (his own words) DeSpain ever coached, and all those players were home grown talent, and all the major "stars" on the team played multiple sports.

I am not familiar with any of the coaches mentioned here. However, I do know that Los Altos and any public high school for that matter, should have a coach who not only has the knowledge of the game but can also teach it effectively to his players. A coach who can bring out the desire to help out fellow teammates in a game of competition postitively. A coach who can demonstrate safe techniques to play the game. A coach who cares not only about winning titles but winning over his players with dignity and respect. A coach who is a leader on and off of the field. A coach who can be a positive male role model to the students (not only players) at his school. A coach who encourages his students to think outside of the box, know the importance of college and/or hard work, and humbleness. Any coach who can go to a school and do these things for my son would be great! Yes winning is great, but life lessons are so important for our kids to learn from in order to become productive citizens of our communities. I hope the LA community knows how to embrace and support this new coach so everyone can make the best out of this football program unfolding as we see it.

Los Altos could bring in Charlie Weis, John Gruden or Mike Shanahan the fact remains their talent pool is at a all time low and no one will turn that mess around instantly. Face it Parents, Alumni and fan base Los Altos will not see another crown for awhile and I am talking possible 5-7 years. You are looking at another Walnut situation here ......LAUGHABLE!

My only question is, will the LA administration be too afraid to hire another young coach or assistant! i can understand the desire for a veteran coach with experience, but that may be a hard thing to come by if the cupboard is completely bare! Yes, Amat was able to get a great hire in Hagarty(sp); but as a valley supporter, i never thought that Amat was starting over! They (Amat) just needed the right man to put the pieces and tradition back together again! I believe a young coach or long time assistant coach is the way to go! If given time, they will stay and work! Good luck, LA!

If LA is going to be required to build their team from within the community then how can you expect any coach to win a championship?

Lets be honest here Despain recruited players to achieve everyone of his championships. Now Despain recruited at the lower levels and coached up the talent. Gano recruits (juniors/seniors) developed talent so he didn't have to coach them up to win all his championships.

So LA hasn't won a single championship without recruiting at some level. So how are you going to expect a coach to come in and win championships when these two coaches couldn’t do it?

Dubb3trathree - while the talent at Amat is never a problem - neither is it for everyone else on the schedule. It's possible a coach might not be successful at that level and still do great in the Miramonte/D7. A good coach can turn it around at Los Altos even easier because of the weak teams they face.

Dubb3trathree,

Very valid comments, easier said than done. I strongly believe that Wilson is going to have something to say about the local youth talent. LA has lost some major talent over the last few years. Not to sure how the freshmen talent is going to develop but the sophomore and junior class lacks talent at just about every key position.

The league realignment is a major issue. Parents feel that LA can't compete in the new league where Wilson has been considered one of the big winners through this league realigment process.

Then you have the other MAJOR issue is when is this coach going to be hired. Is their going to be a teaching spot open. These issues are all going to impact next years team, espically the freshmen team. Who wants to send their kid to a program that is working on their thrid head coach in four years? Who wants to send their kid to a program that they don't even know who the head coach is?

The LA administration has made it very clear they want to build a program from within their attendance area. That being said what quality coach is going to take a job under those conditions?

Ive been reading all these post and comments, and the one thing that i have come back to is that everyone wants to hire these re-hash coaches. Coaches that have failed in other places. Or could not get the job done. L.A. is a school that needs to face some changes that they have before them. The administration is not a football admin. They will not help turn the blind eye to recruits or transfers. Also the next coach needs to be someone smart and hungry to be a coach and want the challenge. Aguilar fault was that he was 26-27 with no major coaching or college training of what it takes to run a successful off-season program. I know this because many of the kids that played for him i coached in PopWarner and many of them just told me he was in over his head. What many people need to see is that the next coach will probably be someone that many have not thought of. It will not be Verti or Escamilla. If they could not win at Amat were talent should never be a problem. Or SEM were the competition was less than the league now. What makes people think he can win with a supposed talent-less team. The next coach needs 5 things to turn LA around. 1. A Good Coaching staff to coach up the kids they have. 2. A good offense and defense scheme. The old LA split back offense were they run off tackle game is over. They should probaly go Spread. Come into the 00's people. And a 3-4 defense. To help against the teams like Bonita,DR, Walnut,DBar and there spread offenses. 3. He needs to learn how to share athletes with the other coaches. The days of football players only at LA or over. They need to share the talent. 4. He needs to impliment a strong weight-lifting and conditioning program.5. he needs to get the Popwarner and JAA back in line with the schools. When DeSpain was rolling the HH cougars were a elite JAA program. And the HLP programs were rolling till Gano kicked them out of the fields. Get them back in LA support and in 2 yrs LA will have plenty of talent to win. If the next coach. does this i think LA will Be back faster than most...

MAN UP aka LA Supporter,

LA's coaching staff, parents and players have talked the sh#t for years including this year. Now you want us to feel sorry for you. In the past you could back it up on the field, now you are a joke.

You continue to talk about all the talent in your program. Well where is it, talk is cheap back it up.

P.S. Noticed you didn't use your real name, so right back at you;

MAN UP

which is my next point..how many of you dam bloggers actually know a dam thing about football??
how many of you actually played??? how many of you were actually good? What experience do u have in football??
what right do people have coming on here anonymously blasting a coach or player or a program.
show some class, heart and RESPECT!

any man who belittles others or takes personal stabs at others is NOT A MAN..but a coward and a "NEVER WAS".

this is HS SPORTS here not "personal attack forums"

i think if a man has something to say..stand up..be a man..have a backbone and say WHO you ARE..and HOW the HELL you could possibly KNOW anythgn of what youre talking about.

if the sad sapps who blog on here taking personal and ridiculous shots at coaches/players/programs are the ones associated in football..its a sad thing to know that the greatest sport in the world(football) is being tainted by men who act like women

somebody needs to stand up for these players/coaches/programs...becuase if you had ever been where they were..youd SHUT YOUR MOUTH and have RESPECT!

MAN UP

Things will get worse before getting better...

Wow, lot's of interesting names and many I've never heard of.

One issue I haven't seen brought up is - what candidate can bring the BEST STAFF?

Los Altos CAN'T risk rolling the dice with another young rookie, they must bring someone with Head Coaching experience.

No knock on Felipe, he inherited a sinking ship.

Go Conqs !!!!

Things will get worse before getting better...

Wow, lot's of interesting names and many I've never heard of.

One issue I haven't seen brought up is - what candidate can bring the BEST STAFF?

Los Altos CAN'T risk rolling the dice with another young rookie, they must bring someone with Head Coaching experience.

No knock on Felipe, he inherited a sinking ship.

Go Conqs !!!!

It seems my comment was censored or got lost via the mysterious internet.

I said how about Mike Mooney who is the OC at San Marino...he had some really excellent years as the head man at TC. The problem with getting him is that he's also an Asst. Principal so you'd have to have an Asst. Principal job opening as well.

Found out who Ted Clarke was, had to enquire my encyclopedia, aka my father. Coached at SD in the 90s.

Isn't Joe Amat Canales?

The real issue with Bobby Godinez is he isn't your typical Los Altos Coach. He trains his kids hard in the off season, he coaches up his kids during the season. He has his kids compete for their spot.

LVL Parent....

I understand your a supporter of Coach Godinez, and not too keen on Lance Ebel at LHSLV, but how did Bobby Godinez transform them from losing to winning in a few months? They were 5-3 the year before he showed up, and 6-3 with a league championship the year before. The foundation for success was already there when he arrived.

LHSLV is trying to field a Varsity Team in 11 man football with no lower levels; they are setting the boys and the school up for failure unless they enroll, i.e., recruit, established athletes who can compete at the Varsity Level immediately. The administration is on the "hot seat" because of the scrutiny the basketball team has provided with their questionable players.

Further, the adminsitration is not going to pay stipends for 4 Freshman Coaches, and 4 Varsity Coaches. Until any of that changes it is simply a small school program.

Bobby Godinez would be a good fit for LAHS because of his history at the school and his experience. But, they need a coach that can balance the administration, the parents, and the team. I don't think he is the answer.

The LA bloggers have made multi comments about having talent at LA. The question has been ask, who?

I am also very interested in knowing where all this talent is. I have viewed you stats on max prep and would rate your team one of the worse offensive teams in the valley with a whopping 230 yard of offense per game. That being said the majority of the numbers are from seniors. Your only underclassman, FB averaged 37 yards a game rushing second best to your senior at 58 yards per game. Your best WR averaged 57 yards a game was a junior. Now factor in your starting qb is gone.

What quality coach would want to take on a task of rebuilding a team like LA.? I do understand you have name but don't have the talent.

Start looking for another up and coming young coach because that’s the only chance you have of pulling in a quality coach.

Then theres Crutchfield. Heard he will apply.

My son played for La Verne for the past few years and I want to get a few things straight. A few of you angry Lutheran parents need to back off a little. Coach Godinez was simply bettering his life by going forward with his coaching career. We all know how difficult that La Verne admin is, eh hem Lance Ebel. We would be selfish to think he was obligated to stay. And yes, when Coach left after last season I was thoroughly upset as well, but isn't that the business and his right? Shall we forget what Godinez brought to that team. Losing, to a winner in a few months! After going through the Casteneda debacle, it truley made me appreciate Coach Godinez and let's be honest he was nothing less than a magnificent coach. I see a few angry bloggers on here and whether they are a select few Lutheran parents or Los Altos past coaches it is just not right throwing nonsense out there because you are mad. I'll tell you what, if I were hiring at ANY high school program I would not hesitate for a moment to hire Bobby. You Los Altos fans don't get caught up in some of the crap thrown into some of these messages because you would be stupid not to want this guy coaching your kid, trust me! Good man, great coach.

facts...
finally somebody with a brain ditto everything you said. The only chance LA has now is baseball and soccer.

Silly,

You're reaching dude! SD is by no means taking Azusa lightly. We will come ready to play as will Azusa! It will be a good one.

Silly... you are an idiot. What are you talking about. Those coaches are fully prepared for Azusa... don't make something out of nothing.

In case you did not notice the "king of Bloogers" from the Saints coaching staff is already doing a wee bit of gamesmenship getting ready for the CIF FINALS. Not the Semi's this week. Throwing Schuster's name out there to distract from the Finals when the 'Aints play against the Wildcats. Did you notice that Aztec staff? The Saints have already penciled themselves into the finals, just like San Marino did. Now the question is what are you going to do about it?

I agree NO way is LA administration going to hire Godinez. Godinez has also commented that no way he would apply for the position, not with the current school administration. They are clueless what it takes to run a program. Espically Garcia, he is the biggest joke out their.

The LA football program has lost way to many kids to other programs to be successful in the near future. This program is going to take years to turn around.

the LA Administration is not going to hire Godinez..so forget it.

Although he is not a big name coach as some of the other coaches being mentioned I think Joe Canales from Amat should be mentioned. He has pervious Head Coaching experience at Cantwell throughout the 90's (believe it or not Cantwell had some good teams in the mid 90's) and is very familiar with the area. I don't think he would leave Amat (Canales is a Catholic school guy) but he definitely should be mentioned.

LA has tons of Athletes competing in other sports...just look at all their league titles in other sports. If the coaches from LA were to share athletes like most schools do, they can use the home grown talent to succeed in football. I was there recently and noticed tons of huge, athletic kids playing other sports like soccer, baseball and basketball. The new coach would need to be able to work with all the coaches from other sports, in order to use the athletes that LA currently has.

I know for sure that Craig Shuster wants the LA job. This guy built the Azusa program to where it is today, and has been waiting for an opportunity like this to open up. Hire Craig Shuster!!!!!

Hey, Jeremy. You don't make sense. Why would Maggiore Leave West Covina? Doesn't make sense. Layton... Same thing. They have better things going on at their schools and will Crush LA in the new league.

Shuster makes sense. He got Azusa going in the right direction and is the architect for the offense over there now.

Ted Clark... no one and I mean no one likes to get a titty twister from their head coach so I got to say....NO.

Morales makes sense along with a list of other coordinators from successful programs. How about this one.

Eric Podley from Bonita takes over at LA??? Would be an interesting move. A football guy going to a football school. They guy can flat out coach. Gets blood from a stone every year.

Bob Castaneda should get the job at Los Altos. Most of the star players at Schurr played for Bob growing up. Just to name a few you have Angel Sanchez, Carlos Arrendondo, Nick Castillo, Christian Madrid, and Mark Avila, Castaneda definitely knows how to coach. Hire him Los altos.

My list:

1) Mike DiFiori- applied for the Wilson job, why not?

2) Mike Maggiore- unless LA overhauls the baseball program which are great for providing QB's, I see the Direction of the "new" LA going in Maggiore's brand of offense.

3) MARIO MORALES (LB Wilson)- Pac-5/Moore league exprience, and has done a good job turning the Bruins around. LA C/0 '82

Ted Clarke- is he still at SBVJC?

5) Any one named Salter- it works!

6) Craig Schuster

7) Roddy Layton

Ucancallmedick - It has been proven by Charter Oak that you don't have to play with players from your neighborhood to win. Their key skill position guys grew up in areas outside the CO attendance area. Without them they'd be just like Bonita or Los Altos and sitting at home. The myth that Amat is the only school with players from all over is just that - a myth. With the right guy Los Altos could become relevant again.

Two things stand out in my mind as I read these posts. First the passion with which Los Altos people have for their school and team. I think that is great. Secondly the perception that they have with regards to their teams future. The passion is great! It makes for a good job for the next coach. That is what makes high school football so great. However, I believe that the days of past glory need to be more grounded. You now have to play with your neighborhood kids. The playing field has been leveled for your competition. But I believe that is a good thing.
Now if the next coach can just handle the expectations and ultimately the criticism of his decisions, then they will have an opportunity to develop local talent and compete. Now it will come down to hiring a good coach and this community supporting this coach and team unconditionally. Not just through the good times.

Know It all,

Wasn't John Strickland the one who caught the winning pass vs Glendora in 93?

Reading all this coaching talk has me thinking, First if someone is going to get hired we need to contact thier past employer. La Verne Lutheran's number is on the directory.

Second, the only players who bobby brought to the 8 man school were C.J.Cano a kid who was so injured thru some crazy workout routine bobby gave him he has never played, actually all those kids that played for bobby were at the school for basketball case closed, the basketball coach can be contacted to verify.

As for him being a great guy with the kids, I beleive what you meant was bobby never met a kid he didnt charge for a workout, this guy is in it for the cash, dont beleive me send your kid to his shop for an evaluation.

Lastly of all the kids he has worked with who is in college or who is an all leaguer, for that matter, and dont say the T.E. kid from Gano's last year he is a Gano kid not even an imagination like bobbies can take credit for that.

So this is how the situation goes at Los Altos back stabbing, manipulating, behind the scene lobbying, great just what the school needs a young guy with a proven record of QUITTING and CHARGING kids for workouts. WAY TO GO L.A. FOOTBALL.

Anyone else think Los Altos should get an All Star staff (lite), in the mood of Amat and Damien? Escamilla, Urias, ect ect ect...would be best for LA instead of a singular lightening rod head coach that has to spend time justifying every decision.

Just a thought seeing as a few good names have been brought up....why not get everyone on board...question would still be who's the Head Coach...my guess Escamilla...did it at SEM and won lus he has local cred and contacts???

Just saying.

LA should go after John Strickland. He was the brains behind Covina during their run, and is now getting it done at San Dimas. He played at CO, so he may not take the job though.

Aaron,

Let me correct you on a few items LA has an ok relationship with JAA and a poor relationship with Pop Warner. Gano had a terrible relationship with both programs Felipe has cleaned it up a little. The reality of it is they share the talent with Wilson which is statically the better school and the safeties school in the district by far.

I talked to Bobby a while back, he told me the same he is coaching the DB’s. Understand LA isn’t going to draw those top coaches; they aren’t the LA of old. Bobby doesn’t have the experience you would like to see and after the mess that LA went through with Felipe I can understand their concern. My dealing with the guy he is a great coach and a great recruiter something that LA needs real bad to compete.

Now Los Altos being closed enrollment, well certain people threatened a class action law suit against the school district. Not going into much detail the district is now saying that LA has never been closed enrollment.

We are talking about LA a school with tradition but basically no talent coming back, no talent in the lower divisions and the local youth programs are weak at this time. This LA isn't going to be pulling talent from out of the area, those coaches are gone (Booth, Curtis, etc....).

Any coach taking this job has to realize that this is a work in progress; it is going to take years. To be perfectly honest with you I can't see this team competing until the next league realignment in five years. At that time the program would have suffered enough that they will be moved down back with Wilson.

You heard it here first, next league realignment LA, Wilson, Rowland, and Nogales will all be put in the same league. I would throw Northview and Covina to complete the league.

Somebody do their research. Godinez does not call the defensive signals for PCC, the head coach James Kuk does, Godinez coaches the DBs. If a PAC-5 school could wrangle Kuk out of PCC he'd be a good coach for them.

I understand I'm a young guy but the only guy I don't know is Ted Clarke, who is he? Los Altos had a look at Godinez and they chose Aguilar, I hope Aguilar picks up a job as a QB coach, one school comes into my mind that is close to home for me.

A lot of people seem to by hyping up Godinez when he has only been the head man for one season at the 8-man level, and because of him his employer under his guidance decided to move up to 11-man and he left LVL in June? Leaving them to scramble getting Rob Castaneda. If you really think he's a genius, have him prove it first, because that's what schools want.

I don't know if Verti would be a good choice, he's had the pressure at the PAC-5 level and for all the Amat Family knows he may get a chance to be the head man there again once he has proven himself as a winning headcoach elsewhere. (But I know Haggerty is there to stay, I'm thinking 20 years from now.)

Fact of the matter is, Los Altos is closed enrollment. Los Altos needs a coach that can develop and coach up the players currently there and have a good to great working relationship with the local JAA or Pop Warner so they can get the system run early.

Two coaches not mentioned that I would like to see get the Los Altos job is former Walnut Coach, Jerry Persons, the other coach that everyone forgets about and does a outstanding job with a defense is Coach Mike Difiori the former Amat head coach and now Defensive Coordinator. This is what Los Altos needs in a coach. Felipe needs seasoning before he can take the Head coaching reins again. Verti will get another opportunity somewhere as the head guy but he is stil being seasoned as well.

I would rather see Arellanes or Medrano come back to their alma mater El Rancho. But if not they gotta do what they gotta do. Arellanes back to back at Northview and Medrano keeps moving up in the ranks.

RingLeader,
Clark, too much baggage..??

What baggage are you talking about?

If Los Altos could land Jerry Urias, they'd be set. He was the mastermind behind SEM HS, and is the current DB coach at Fullerton College.

Both Godinez' were recruiting LA players for Lutheran. Son, from his training shack next to 7-11, (where he gave discounts to LA players) and dad straight from the LA field, and classroom. With LA no longer being open enrollment, how's Bobby going to bring in the jr/sr recruited studs needed for LA to compete?
If he's expected to work around the open enrollment by developing talent from the local peewee's (summer camps), through freshman/sophomore, he better come up with 6-8 good, dedicated, willing to work for nuthing (HLPUSD), lower level coaches. (ala Amat).

Yea, I don't see it happening. Failure, and exodus in 2-3 years if he tries.

Los Altos should hire the Offensive coordinator at San Dimas. His Name is Coach Holman and he's a great people guy! Kids tested mother approved!!! Bring the Wing to LA!!!!

On another note.. another former Amat Head Coach Don Markham is available and supposedly looking. He's applied for the Rialto job, which lists these minimum requirements for their coach:

--A minimum of five years head coaching experience in football in the last eight years at the varsity level.

--A verifiable record of having been part of a winning tradition, including post-season CIF playoff competition as a varsity coach is desirable.

Maybe Los Altos should compare requirements and set their sites high too.

Hire,

Pretty bad example with Troy Thomas, as he began at Crespi and was the head coach there for 4 years, won a CIF title there when they were Division 10 (and where he had graduated FIFTEEN years earlier - making him about 33 when he got the head coaching job) and was a Division 1 assistant for 4 years before getting the job at Crespi .

But other than that he was young and inexperienced. Not so relevant now was that?

Hire..

The little school in La Verne won a league championship for the first time in 2006 and went to the playoffs the year before Godinez showed up.the foundation for a program was built at that time...Their plan at the time was to go to 11 man football within 4 years..when the administration reneged on that plan, after Bobby supported it, then he left.

There was no investment from the school, the administration, or the community in a football program at La Verne.

general turgidson,

Who are you to say Godinez isn't a great coach. Don't forget we are talking about LA, three lossing seasons in a roll. Haven't seen the playoffs since 2006, the playoffs. With the talent at LA it is going to take years to turn that program around. Over the last three years you have a record of 8-22, can't believe that but weaker than Wilson at 10-22.

LA of 2002 is gone.....

My list is as follows

1. Jim Arellanes looks like the best candidate. A young proven winner and won't go anywhere.

2. Any Charter Oak, Bishop or South hills top assistant It takes winners to build a winner and I figure these are the places to look. Do some research and find their best. Assistants from these places won't go anywhere and would bring a positive attitude.

3. Bobby Godinez this guy would be my number one if I wasn't afraid of him leaving after 2 years. No doubt this guy would be a great winner in a hurry, but how long can we keep this ambitious young man.

4. Erick Escamilla has won with very little. Very nice system and I like what he's about.

Verti and Morrison shouldn't be touching a football field unless it is to watch! Verti couldn't win at BISHOP AMAT people!

Some of you are probably the people that said, "Oh no Kiffin, Sarkisian, Gruden" were too young to take over as a coach. More relevant, Troy Thomas over there at Servite was way too young to take over at such a presitgeous school. Get over the age and the where. Bobby Godinez has more to offer than any other candidate. Unless you bring back Gano then you will not find anyone that will attract more of the areas talent.

That little Christian school, 8man or not, went from a horrible 3 win team to CIF semifinalist in one year. And folded the year after he left. He must of done something right. I also suppose you claiming he jumped ship were pissed at Gano too for "jumping ship". Gano makes about 100k a year more than any of us now, be mad at something else because it's the business.

For all you who want to wait for the guy to prove more then go ahead, but you'll be way too late. You're all probably the people that wanted to buy Microsoft after the boom and buy houses two years ago. Get a clue and hire the right guy because he is the RIGHT GUY!

I think Jim Arellanes would be a great choice; o by the way does Hacienda Pizza sell beer. Please advise the booster club to open a beer tab at Hacienda Pizza for Jim Arellanes and staff if hired.

That will keep them real happy.

Joe AMAT,
Glad to hear that Verti is honing his craft.Nothing wrong with being under a Salter's wing to get the seasoning. One day he may be a fine head coach but he was just too young and inexperienced for the job at AMAT . Much in the same way he would be for the job at LA. No doubt the job at LA will be a tough one as you say outside and inside the lines. I just wish them well in their search and hopefully they get someone who is right for all concerned , especially the athletes.

what a joke. the guy couldn't handle a small school program, and you want to hand over the LA job?

his dad, with his "30+" years of experience was a get back coach... no involvement in the program.

A potential college coach with more knowledge? Did you test all of the coaches in the valley with a football IQ test? How in the world can you measure something like that? Fool. So he's going to coach at UCLA someday... but he can't coach a division 12 team?

It is baffling to hear how much credit people are giving this guy. What is this based on? Some of you have even said you don't know the whole story. SO... He's amazing, but you don't know anything about his FIRST coaching job. Wow.

And Verti? You want to hire someone else's reject? Hey Charlie Weis... come to USC next year!

I implore all of you... come back to reality

Major problem is Godinez style of coaching isn’t what the school administration is looking for. The one of many things Godinez does better than Gano is recruiting. Godinez is the best recruiter in the area hands down. He is also one of the best coaches in the area, something that most of you don’t understand “Joe Amat”. Just because he is young doesn’t mean he can’t HEAD coach a program. LA already had one chance with Godinez a few years ago, and Gano laughed him out of their. Interesting since that time LA hasn’t had a winning season. Now look at LA a few years latter, by far Godinez would be the best choice. But, now you have a school and district administration that isn’t going to allow a Godinez style coach to be hired. Godinez is the one guy that can stop the wave of mass exist from the LA program, possible start to draw players back to the program. Best qualified, but just don’t see it happening. So I guess you had better get use to losing.

"his knowlege of the game is much higher than those of the coaches in this valley" That sounds like Charlie Weis saying "he'll have a decided schematic advantage over the teams he faces" How'd that work out?
Step DOWN from 8 man football at a little christian school to Los Altos? Did you REALLY just write that? HILARIOS!

Medrano is a Bum!!! LA should hire him for comic purposes. Craig Schuster is interested though!!!

Godinez will be a college football coach and possible head coach someday. It would just be a matter of time. His personality is very strong and his knowlege of the game is much higher than those of the coaches in this valley (with the exception of a few, of course).

I say LA stops him in his tracks and hire him before it's too late. He will turn the program around, fast! Plus, his ties to the area are better than anyones.

I don't know the La Verne story, but I see that he is now coaching the defense at Pasadena College now. Hey, I wouldn't think twice about coaching college football apposed to a small school that wouldn't help him out.

Hire Godinez!

As The World Turns:

Who??? Clark, too much baggage. Medrano?? Who is this guy?

why not,

Verti is twice the coach that Godinez is. He also played D1 (UCLA - that's the Pac10 isn't it?) Coached at the championship level at Culver City for former Amat coach Tommy Salter and then was thrown into the fire at Amat before he was ready to be a head coach - then compounded his mistakes by not surrounding himself with some experienced assistants.
(BTW 73 - Mark and Tommy are both assisting Tim Salter at Upland - so some of the Amat family is still at work on Friday)

None of that was fair to him and he would be much better off in a Miramonte job with a 1,000 people in the stands than 6,000 rabid fans expecting a higher degree of excellence at the highest level of competition.

Aguilar played football in college and played for a coach who has NFL playing experience - then coached with Gano. Godinez is no more prepared than either of those two guys - plus his implosion at itty-bitty La Verne Lutheran is far worse than Verti's failures in the Pac5 against some of the best coaches in the country.

The reality is that most young coaches (and all three fall into that category) are in FAR too much of a hurry to get a head coaching job before they are REALLY ready. Be patient and become prepared. Prove it somewhere then move up. Los Altos needs someone with a proven track record as a head coach. Someone who can handle all the pressures and responsibilities of the job - inside AND outside the lines.

How about GRI? He seems to have his hand on the pulse of Hacienda Heights politics and goings on. Plus he comes with a wealth of knowledge far superior to former Coach Gano. Just ask him! Besides Crutchfield was allowed to bring his son along without CIF restrictions so bringing his son back to LA would be a given. Over the years I've come to the conclusion Mr. S is a genius. LA are you ready for some football GRI style? So how about it GRI, put up or shut up! Please!

The question about Godinez is would he even want to coach at Los Altos? Does Los Altos deserve his coaching ability?

There's a bit of a back story. The basis is this. Aguilar and the current athletic administration let go of Godinez's father and his 30+ years of coaching experience. This raised an eyebrow or two at the District. The new principle also viewed this move as poor judgement on Aguilar's part. It was noted that this decision was pressed upon Aguilar from athletic officials above. It was in retaliation for what athletic officials saw as Godinez's recruiting of players to La Verne Lutheran through is training facility in the Heights. "Can't get him, we'll take it out on his dad" type move. This can't sit well with Bobby, would he want to work for those that were Aguilar's masters?

The school and it's team are a shell of what it once was, if Bobby Godinez is serious about his coaching career, would he consider this a step back? Or would he want the challenge to prove that he's the coach that earned Coach of the Year honors in '08? (He didn't quit on La Verne, the administration at La Verne turned their back on him and his success. They took away players AFTER agreeing to them months beforehand to field the 11-man squad, he then told them they needed to shut down the football program for the sake of players that wanted to transfer because it wasn't something he agreed too with the LV administration. The powers that be at La Verne thought they knew better and decided to field one anyways.)

Verti is the WR Coach at Upland. He may think he is ready to be a HFC again, not even close.

Bobby Godinez would be a great fit for LAHS; experience and connection to the tradition of the school. I am sure he left LHSLV not because of the boys; but because the administration has no interest in investing in football. They went to 11 man football for 3 games this year before forfeiting the season.

Felipe Aguilar was set-up to fail. He stopped playing football 2 games into his college career and concentrated on baseball.

Godinez coached one season of eight-man at La Verne Lutheran, pushed the administration to move the program to go to 11-man football...and then jumped ship way late...where the school administration had to scramble to find a coach in Rob Castaneda.

They forfeited seven games. They almost beat Ontario which I find to be a very hard thing to do considering they were undermanned. Finishing the season after three games with fourteen kids healthy, yeah that sucks.

Godinez is pathetic.

West Covina's Athetic Director and Offensive Coordinator Brian Murphy.

Why not,
Didn't Godinez quit on the La Verne Lutheran Team?

Unless Verti has added coaching time in these past 2 years I don't think he ready for a head coaching position. Just doesn't have the experience to handle the job at such a high profile program. What LA needs is someone who has been there before and can handle all that pressure the next coach will face. At LA it will be a win now and not later situation.

In defense of Morrison,

He's taken winning programs and run them into the ground maybe his real talent is taking a program that is already in the ground and building them up. You never know. Call it Reversal of Fortunes Syndrome.

Godinez and Aguilar have nothing in common aside from the fact they played together at LA. You are talking about a guy that has played at the D1 Level and the NFL levels, plus has had successful head coaching (La Verne Christian) and college (Pasadena College Defense) coaching experience. There aren't many people period with more "football experience". Aguilar was a successful high school player and that was about the extent of that. I doubt the hire of Godinez would be anything close to a mistake.

I also think Jim Arellanes would be a great fit, young and energetic. Plus he's proven he can win with little talent.

However throwing names like Verti and Morrison out there make me question. You are going to consider guys that were forced out somewhere else. It would be like trying to convince someone that Aguilar is a good choice.

What about Gil Jimenez former D-Coordinator at St.Paul or Pete Gonzales from Montebello.

I think Ted Clark or Adrian Medrano should be considered they each have a ton of energy and they have the ability to rally the troops to move in one direction. They both want to be head coaches!

What about Scott Morrison. Why isn't his name in the hat?

Why? What makes Godinez any more qualified than Felipe was? Seems to me Los Altos already made that mistake and should go with someone with substantial proven head coaching experience.

Bobby Godinez should be the coach.