Coach of the decade? Just three choices

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Been out of this conversation for the last few days, surprised its still going.

As far as recruiting and how much of it goes on, at first glance I was going to agree with Fred. But, by CIF defintion I have to disagree. Now proving it is another story.

To be honest with you I was very surprised when reading Fred's comments. You are showing signs of getting it.

Fred, you need to understand where these bloggers are coming from. There are many coaches out there that do a great job with what they have. You and your newspaper give them zero credit year in and year out. You gauge a coach based on his CIF championships.

Here is one for you Fred, go back through the threads you created this year and the ones you created the two previous years. Count how many threads you started on Gano/Damien. We all know that you are in love with Gano, but that opinion is not shared by the majority of your bloggers. Look at Damien and their record during the year, compare that to the press you gave them. Those numbers are the reason why many bloggers don't respect you opinion.

South Hills lost to Diamond Ranch this year...a team that lost twice to Charter Oak and got destroyed by Bishop Amat.

South Hills was also routed by a a very young 5-5 Tesoro team that finished 4th in the Pac-5's South Coast League and did not make the playoffs.

Last year, South Hills lost to West Covina who also got destroyed by Bishop Amat.

If South Hills was in the recruiting business, I would fire the person in charge of recruiting! haha!

The last great player to come out of South Hills was Dorian Wells....a Senior Bishop Amat transfer who was forced to play for the Huskies due to disciplinary reasons.

To Silly - I hesitated long and carefully before writing this and potentially validating this stuff in some fashion, but enough is enough. I'll state my name: Mike Ryan. I believe Fred is correct and deserves a little more respect for his efforts, and by the way, I knew several coaches, not the majority, who lost on a regular basis [year in and year out] who did complain or blame [publicly or privately]. Formerly of South Hills and the SGV for 20 years, I can say categorically I saw ZERO recruiting at SH [speaking from my coaching tenure, 1999-2005]. So, you've got my name in my first blog entry [none of the others come from me], now name a name, state your version of truth, and let's see what stone you want to throw. Pick it up and cast it; call me out as a liar.

The argument you presented would shift the burden of proof upon those being accused. They must prove their innocence [how do you explain this or that…]. Interesting that besides being a serious fault in logic, it is also against the laws and beliefs of our nation.

I saw kids and/or their parents show up, some of whom ended up at SH, but some of whom went back or went somewhere else. Life and the way of the modern world [we don't have to like it, but it's the truth]. By the way, some players left SH as well and went to other schools to play, so you know you cannot please everyone all the time. You try to treat people as fairly as you are able. Given the success and models of today’s world, I believe Greg and Lou experienced similar things and did and do the same. Call me naive and stupid, but I have not seen evidence of anything resembling recruiting regardless of accusations and rumor.

The origin of this thread was simple. It has turned into a typical attack on people, usually at the expense of the argument or vision, via the anonymous and selfish blog, and a red herring moving us farther and farther away from the original topic. Can we stick to comments related to an honest and educated opinion about this neat idea, or are we so lost in anger and frustration that we are not able to show any respect? If we do, in this region, few coaches have achieved what these three have over the DECADE, so pick one. We should also not slip further from the original discussion into the 90s. They are not part of the 2000s, so let's keep the decades separate. We've already done the 90s.

It's equally interesting that you believe the fact that some players' addresses are from out of the area is proof of recruiting. That implication is false, and is a type of non sequitur. At the three schools listed, they rely, like many in our region, on out-of-district students to keep the schools and districts above water. Our school was instructed it basically had to take anyone who applied to attend SH [enrollment and budget stuff, competing for ADA...]. Take away the non-district students, and the campus would drop to about 1500 or less. Guess what? Not all 500+ play football: not even 10%, likely less than 4%. Obviously it's not just football that brings students to the school. Many people apparently look closely at many factors before sending their children to a school to give them the best chance at a bright future. Would we begrudge them that?

I cannot for the life of me think of any coach on the east side of the 605 with enough head coaching [or similar] years to know the 90s through to now who would throw stones and raise this issue via a blog. None come to mind - I respect those with longevity and honesty, and none of the ones I know would say this. As for the west side, I know a lot of those folks as well, and that would surprise me as well. The ones we have competed against, gone to clinics with, and sat in meetings with would not, in my estimation, make these crass accusations. I cannot imagine any self-respecting coach [or anyone for that matter] using one or two arguable examples to paint the whole picture, because I cannot see that person willing to let someone else use that same logic against him in some other arena. That’s a slippery slope if ever there was one. However, it's possible I am a poor judge of character.

By the way, I would sincerely appreciate anyone who wishes to attack me on this one and only blog to state your name so we can at least have an honest and open dialogue. Please.

And I wish you a Merry Christmas as well...

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FredJ you should be in politics. You take what is said and twist it. I never called those men average. I said those guys would have and did have, teams that were middle of the pack teams when they played with the kids from their District only. From 97 - 2000 Bogan won no league titles. While at Northview Gano struggled bigtime. Again he played with local talent. I do not have Big Lous record while the HC prior to combining RO and CO. I bet they worked hard but the results are different when you play with what shows up at your door as opposed to who transfers in. How would they do at a Nogalas a Bassett? That does not attack their work ethic or knowledge, Simply the fact that they coach All Star teams. He'll give Podley at Bonita the Canadas or Michael Johnson. let's see what would happen. And while Don said it well, the perception is their that these schools do recruit. Your use of Scherf as an example of what can occur if kids stay home at their school where they belong only further validates my point. It gives a good coach and school a chance to be successful because of it. Rather then those kids leaving to go to Amat or CO or South, they stayed where they belong.
Don good comments. FredJ be a journalist. Do a story. And try being a responsible one. As I said before once , you have a public platform. That means you have an obligation to be responsible. It would be nice to see you simply report the news, not create it. Your very obvious opinions of hard working coaches that have not won titles, your measuring stick of success, needs to be re-evaluated.
While you are not the worst I have dealt with or read you are definitely average at best.

There is so little actual “recruiting” taking place as to make these arguments almost funny were they not so sad. You guys who want to see Lou Farrar lurking at an Altadena JAA game or Tom Quinley with a bag of C O T-shirts in the Big League Dreams parking lot must be the same ones who keep going to all of those Oliver Stone movies.

For every anecdotal incidence of a 14 year old kid being solicited to play away from his local school, (You know how these go: My brother's neighbor's dentist had a friend who knew a guy whose kid was sooo good, that . . .), there are thousands of parents who choose to move the kid for their own reasons. Which of course, is the one thing so rarely spoken of in these discussions.

Among the opinions stated here regarding 'recruiting' so many talk about the kid's choosing to move across towns or districts or counties to attend schools outside of their own communities. It isn't their choice, it is the choice of the parent, Mom and Dad, convinced that their little superstar, having competed so well on the local kiddie ball level needs a bigger stage than their local High School and THEY choose to send him somewhere for THE ADDITIONAL ATTENTION. Which of course is fine, so long as they are honest about it.

Save the talk about college scholarships until junior is actually contacted by an institute of higher learning and be sure you can back up anything about those “better learning opportunities” after his Senior year. The JC's are full of kids who moved to a power program and then took the same cruddy classes they would have at the local school. They did, however, get to see the kid's school in the paper every Saturday morning.

Silly or coach, whoever you're, you won't give your name because you just called three of the winningest coaches this decade average at best. I'll repeat again, I don't know if they're the best game planners, the best tacticians, all that is debatable. But you know what, you can be the greatest x's and o's guy in the world, but if you can't lead, inspire, and get kids to buy into your philosophies you don't win that often, no matter how great your game planning is. Great coaches are the combination of it all, look at some of the up-and-comers like Roddy Layton or Joe Scherf, I don't know if they're great x's and o's guys yet, but they have players that fight for them, that believe in them, and that translates into wins and the kind of chemistry that takes you to championship games. Even Scherf made a funny comment to me during the season, saying they had a couple transfers for the first time in years, and that players that would normally leave Azusa in years past are now staying. He's building a tradition from the ground up. That has nothing to do with recruiting, it's a coaching style that inspires and breeds winning.

"whenever you win, the people that lose regularly always say it's because of recruiting, it's the last card they have to play. You don't want them admitting they're getting outcoached do you"
That is a giant statement about what you believe. Your true colors are showing. As for using my name, I would be only to happy to, as soon as all of you do. I will make my comments and hide behind my tag. Just like you. I feel Ike a journalis. Making some uniformed comments from the safety of a desk.
If my remarks seem harsh let me share a story. The recruiters come through and one commented how some of the players addresses were from other cities then the school. Fre why dont you do your own piece on this? Restore your credibility by doing a story on this? Interview the programs in question. Interview players. Prove or disprove the rumors. What a great story.
As for coach of the decade I seem to recall a rough patch for all three. Gano at Northview, Bogan in the late 90's, and "Big Lou" at Royal Oak. No good tanagers no great seasons. I say that because they were playing through their own talent cycles.

Coach, "Players end up at schools where the coaching is, where teams win regularly, that's not recruiting." ... in response to that, yes, generally speaking, that's the truth, more players just move than there is actual recruiting, that was my point. I'm not blind to that fact that recruiting go on, I'm just saying it's not as prevalent as people on the blog make it out to be. Most of the time, parents simply make the decisions to move to situation they're more comfortable with. And you're right, I don't know who the best x's and o's guys are, but winning is not all always just about that, managing personalities, inspiring players, assembling staffs, dealing with distractions and gaining the confidence of the players you're trying to lead is all part of it too. It's like in basketball, there are a lot that will tell you that Phil Jackson isn't the best "x's and o's" guy, but he knows how direct teams to championships doesn't he

Fred,

Your comment;

"Players end up at schools where the coaching is, where teams win regularly, that's not recruiting"

If you are trying to say that these guys don't recruit maybe you are in the wrong business. You have no clue what you are talking about.

The way YOU judge a coach is by CIF championships. I guess not knowing the game that's all you got to go with.

Best coach of the decade?

Current best coaches, hands down San Dimas, Coach Bill Zernickow and Bishop Amats Coach Steve Hagerty. I base this statement on the fact that if you switched Charter Oak and Bishop Amats coaching staffs Charter Oak would beat Bishop Amat. The current configuration of the two teams Bishop Amat would blowout Charter Oak.

To make my position very clear all three of these coaches you are talking about are average, the best being Charter Oak Lou Farrar, the only one that runs a real system. Gano's defense is above average, but his offense is a flat out joke. Any real defense would destory a Gano lead team. That is also why Damien, Charter Oak, and South Hills will never win a CIF Championship as long as they have to go through the baseline league, out coached.

silly,
At least with a post like that you should identify yourself. It is easy to throw darts at Fred since he signs and really can't hide and won't hide behind some made up name like the majority of us bloggers. If your point is that strong add some credibility and sign your name Coach.

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Simply put, I agree with Fred, and at least with Fred we all know who he is and he's not afraid to give his opinion, right or wrong. This coach is like anyone else who attacks him and hides behind a screen name.

I implied these three coaches because they were the subject of this thread, and the ones that seem to be accused of recruiting most often, when in reality there has never been a shred of evidence presented to me that suggests these rumors are true. When a player or parent comes to me and says there is someone from one of these schools recruiting them, I will deal with it. When a Valley coach comes with credible evidence and wants to go on record to prove that a coach is recruiting illegally, bring it on. And for the record, I am not encouraging anyone to blatantly disregard any rules, nor did I imply that parents should break the rules, I suggested that the rules are too strict and need to be changed, which is a huge difference. You see, I believe that parents have the right to choose when it comes to their kids educational experience, and if they follow the proper protocol that allows them to enter a new school district and are taking classes and making the grades, then they should be allowed to participate in sports, just like any other extra curricular activity. I know that everyone does not share that opinion with me, but it's my opinion and I have a right to it just like you have the right to disagree.
Coach, you wrote: "There are plenty of good coaches at schools that actually play with what is in the neighborhood rather then go find what you need to fill the holes." If that's not accusing others of recruiting, then what is? Again, it's easy to say, but I'm just a phone call away if you have proof that it's true. To say a coach has to go "find what they need to fill the holes," implies blatant illegal recruiting. I would be more than happy to go on record with your comments that you have accusing certain coaches of illegal recruiting, then I would get a chance to ask those coaches to respond. Otherwise, these coaches continually are accused of recruiting by people like yourselves who post anonymously with no evidence whatsoever, then accuse people like me of "reckless irresponsibility."

Shame on you Fred J. . You should be ashamed of yourself for making such irresponsible remarks. Yes irresponsible. First of all I do coach and I win more then I lose. For a person that has such a public forum to express such ablatant disregard for rules and openly encouraging parents and individuals to break the rules is inexcusable. Even though this is a blog and you are not actually reporting news, by the very postion you hold to some it gives you credibility. Your statements that a coach would atttempt to excuse loses or problems in their program by blaming the schools that do recruit is either irresponsible or reckless stupidity. Having been interviewed by you, neither one of them is out of the realm of possibilities. The CIF has strict rules that forbid active recruiting by other institutions for the purpose of athletics. They lack an investigative arm or any real power to enforce their rules. Yes some kids transfer on their own or because of parental pressure. Perhaps the next time you go out to interview CO,s next opponent that indiividual should blow you off. There are plenty of good coaches at schools that actually play with what is in the neighborhood rather then go find what you need to fill the holes. You implied that the only goodcoaches or programsin the valley are the ones listed on the banner of this article. Keep alienating the people that help make possible the opportuity to have this forum.
Remember the adage it is better to remain quit and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt. All doubt has been removed.

Larry Hatley was the Head ball coach then, he didn't last long after that. It was back when Division IX meant something but make no mistake that team was laden with great athletes and competed at a very high level. Today divisions have been watered down being based on geography...so no more traveling to Paso Robles or Morro Bay for a playoff game anymore.
Bonita was in the old Valle Vista then. It was our last championship, and they are very hard to come by because the demographics of La Verne won't change and the population has been stagnant so it will take a very special group of kids to do it again and I think that group is currently juniors and sophomores. We have more than a handful, if you'll go into the Ellsworth Green Gymnasium you'll see the many Championship banners that we have from long ago when Bonita competed at the Top. If you enter the Administration Building you'll see the Heisman trophy of Glenn Davis...sorry for building some nostalgia.

Aaron

who was the coach back then and do you know what division they were in? I don't believe they were in the miramonte yet? Is this there only championship? sorry for all the questions but really curious.

Coaching, you made no sense at all, why don't you explain. If you're going to disagree with me, then explain yourself. You said kids go to programs that are winning, which is what I said too, and where you win, there happens to be pretty good coaches too. Gano, Farrar and Bogan are not just good coaches, they do what good coaches do, they surround themselves with quality coaching staff's, and the longer staffs are together, the better continuity and chances they have to succeed, which is what makes Charter Oak so great with Dom Farrar and Roger Lehigh, longtime loyal assistants to Big Lou. This is what Hagerty has done at Bishop Amat, what San Dimas did this year hiring a defensive coordinator to compliment Zernickow's offense. There is not the recruiting going on that people think today, that myth is spurred by coaches and schools that lose players to other schools because they're not winning often enough, and need to explain it. Most often, it's just a parent looking to move their kids to a new school. I can go on and on, and to answer you JCaz, yes, I think you should go wherever you want. If a school district accepts your enrollment, and you're making the grades, you should be allowed to participate in sports, just like any other extra curricular activity. At the end of the day, this is just sports, and if sports help keep kids out of trouble, and keeps them doing their school work so they can maintain their eligibility, then we need to loosen up on the transfer rules that restrict so many from playing.

You wanted the year...geeze, can't believe I didn't put that in there 1999.

Bonita went 14-0 in a story book season for the ages. He was the thing that made the offense work, when something failed he didn't. DeAndre was an immense talent, he had scouts all over him, he didn't have to leave Bonita to get a scholarship because they were coming his way because they knew he was a special running back. He left Bonita whether it was to follow Hatley no one seems to really know the answer, maybe his mother knows but it wouldn't be respectful to ask. He found his way to Alta Loma for his senior season, like I said he never had to leave because the scholarships would have been lined up. But he didn't really take care of his grades, which had something to do with him ending up at Mt Sac and Lincoln University.

He always knew his responsibility to his son which hampered him a bit a Mt Sac, but he wanted to be a good father. It was sad when we found out he was killed, and it hurt worse that my senior year another one of his brothers had also not been lucky and was murdered. I and many hope that DeAndre, jr. will grow to be a great young man. The entire community in La Verne I am sure will work to help him as he continues to grow up.

Fred,

You are so full of crap, kids go where there is coaching. That sounds like a comment that a person with zero knowledge of game would say, aka you.

Kids go to programs that are winning. I do understand you think its the same thing, but its not.

Aaron,

What year did he play I believe it was 04'when they won it all and what was there record?

Any one, that knows any thing, about football in the valley knows Gano, Bogan, Farrar, and now Hagg's at Amat DO NOT RECRUITE. What recruits is WINNING!

DeAndre Belin was obviously one of the greatest players Bonita has had. Somehow even after winning a title he was going to leave Bonita whether it was to follow Larry Hatley I'm not sure as he ended up at Alta Loma.

I don't remember if he lived in La Verne but Andrew Wallace his brother did attend Claremont after almost enrolling at Bonita when he was a junior. Tank played in the LVSD Pop Warner system and so did his brothers.

Also a bright note is that DeAndre Belin, jr. was playing this last season on the LVSD Spartans.

what about tank?

I understand the idea of school choice and have seen that in the subject of a better academic institution. You identified Bonita, I know several students that came to Bonita starting as Freshmen that did not play sports but were great in the classroom. Bonita gets kids outside of the enrollment area because it is known as an academic institution. However the transfers Bonita receives does not translate onto the athletic field.

I only personally know of one transfer that came in his senior season. He never did much that season so I can't say it was all to great, high expectations, but he never earned the playing time.

I understand school choice on the basis of Academics because they are students first and athletes a distant second. We should not teach our children that if things aren't going well one place, then we need to pick up and go somewhere else. Is that a bad lesson to teach, when the going gets tough we need to get out of dodge?

Aaron,

I'm a big proponent of school choice. Why should only those that have the means to choose a private school be limited to that right? Why should some kids be stuck in schools that perform poor academically. Why should parents not have the right to enroll their kids in a school that provides a better social climate or campus safety. And shouldn't a kid be able to attend another school that offers an IB/AP program that is more to their liking? Shouldn't LAUSD kids have been allowed to try to get into Garfield when Jaime Escalante was working his magic in the AP Calculus classrooms? Great drama, fine arts, dance programs? Good bands? Shouldn't a kid with high aspirations be allowed to cross over the border form pomona and take advantage of Bonita's Academics?

We can't only look at that situation through an athletic lens. And if a family can make that choice for the above reasons - why not sports. I can guarantee that more student-athletes spend more hours with and learn life-long lessons from any of the coaches mentioned here compared to any single teacher on each campus. So why not - as long as specified rules are followed?

I think what we're saying is it's just as easy for CO/SH to get kids from other areas as it is for Amat/Damien - and maybe easier (no tuition/entrance requirements. etc) . I've been trying to dispel the "recruiting myth" for years. The way it used to be when most who blog here played - is not how it is today with school choice and travel being an accepted practice.

The private school advantage in this area is not nearly pronounced as most think. All you need to do is look at all of Charter Oaks key personnel to face that reality.

Honestly that is the largest pool of feces I've ever read. Kids should stay in their communities if their parents send them to a public a public institution. Privates are a different matter. It should not be about shopping your skills, the only reason a student should change schools is because they had to move and it wasn't feasible to stay at their old school.

Fred,

I compleatly agree with you here. BTW, now that you have opened the door here with this thought of yours, I am wondering if you personaly belive that kids should be allowed to play anywhere they want to regardless of the CIF rules as I do ?

You know, I dont want to beat a dead horse here if only because we have all gone over this at leat 100 times, but I truly believed that what happened to those kids over at South Hills was a tragidy.

Like I have said a 1,000 times, whenever you win, the people that lose regularly always say it's because of recruiting, it's the last card they have to play. You don't want them admitting they're getting outcoached do you? Players end up at schools where the coaching is, where teams win regularly, that's not recruiting, that's parents putting their kids in position to win with coaches they feel comfortable with. It's not a Gano, Farrar, or Bogan type of thing, look at any schools that win often, they all have the same thing in common, they get transfers, always have, always will, no matter what the sport. It's not different than parents that shop for the best club teams.

HuskyMan - What does that have to do with anything? you guys have such an inferiority complex and Amat on the brain it's crazy. Who mentioned Amat anyway? Crazy!

It's like someone said earlier, this thread isn't even about Amat and yet, here we go again. One fool says something compleatly stupid, and then the whole crowd has to chime in. Just watch...

Anyway, the way I see it, this coach of the decade thing proably has two parts to it in that both Bogan and Ggano started off neck and neck, but it's like the old saying goes, and that is "what have you done for me lately ?"

Well, I for one say, give it to Farrar because the man has done what he was suppose to have done in his division. Win...

And win reciently as well.

Back to back CIF championships are no easy tasks, and that team over at Charter Oak has been by far, one of the best in the SGV over the last two years.

So in my book,it's Farrar but I could nevertheless see it a three way tie if you take into consideration the early part of this decade.

Fred
Makes it easier to recruit if your at a catholic school coaching.So Amat recruits all the time.Its to easy and they still get beat by Lakewood a PUBLIC school.

Silly
Who did Diamond Ranch recruit.Ive been involved with DR for five years and i don't know one player they went out to recruit.That's not Roddy's style.Your making S..t up

SGV Football,

It's not always the god given talent that makes kids play, because arguably one of the best players on the SH(Bogan's Team) roster didn't play a down this year when it mattered. It makes you wonder what actually determines how kids play or not. Money, connections, or who knows what, but god given talent doesn't always guarantee you playing time. It's a fact and I figured it was probably because he was small, but that didn't matter. Easily top 3 on the SH roster and I believe the only RB better than this kid was POSSIBLY Jordan Canada, and that's only because he had about 40-50 on pounds on him and was just as fast, maybe faster. All we can do now is wonder what kind of impact he would've had if he played that game against DR this year and last year?!?!?!?!?! Everyone was feeling bad for Jordan Canada, because he didn't play and got denied. I felt worse for this kid, because he was eligible and could've made a difference, but Bogan or someone on the SH coaching staff decided not to play him. BTW, this kid has a monster boot, but that was of no use either.....

I would say make it two divisions. One for those that recruit and one for those that work solely with all valley talent. Bogen, Farrar and Gano could not do what they do without recruiting. And the new boy on the block, Diamond Ranch is now following suit. Then nominate guys like Podley, Maggorie, Glendora HC. The haves and have nots. The non-cheaters and the.... Well you get the idea. But their argument is they just come to us. Yeah right.

I would say make it two divisions. One for those that recruit and one for those that work solely with all valley talent. Bogen, Farrar and Gano could not do what they do without recruiting. And the new boy on the block, Diamond Ranch is now following suit. Then nominate guys like Podley, Maggorie, Glendora HC. The haves and have nots. The non-cheaters and the.... Well you get the idea. But their argument is they just come to us. Yeah right.

is bogan smirking in the photo at all those who claim he recruits?

So

this year the sgv won two cif championships without ever leaving our valley? how sad is that? anyone know how many cif championships are won in similar fashion? my vote is for escamilla who actually had to work his butt off to even stay competitive with local players. coach z actually has done escamilla one better and won with local players. coach podley does the most with the least so he could easily be coach of the decade since he never recruits. rings mean you won but how many seasons did these men win when they were not suppose to win. if you track the transfers you track the championships, except in the case of san dimas.

recruiter of the decade - don't just stick it on Gano & Bogan. where would Lou have been the past two years without Muema, Golden, Powell, Rufus, Thropay, Youngblood, etc? All from the Westside. Then throw in Santiago.
they'd be just like Bonita, that's where.

You got to be kidding me, some people always find a way to make things negative.

Recruiter of the decade,

You must have been one of those sad little parents spending money with trainers, gym memberships ect just to find out the kid with the God given talent was getting looked at and your son was over looked from the get go. Or maybe it was you who wanted to be recruited but never was looked at hahaha, what a joke. People need to get over the fact that schools recruit, end of story how do you think people stay competitive... If a student athelete is willing to transfer and the parents are okay with it, then why not. Who are we to decide someone else childrens future?

This is a tough one between Gano and Bogan. Both guys bring in juniors and seniors. Both guys anoint starters before the kids touch the campus... tough one... decisions, decisions, neither one is as student of the game or very knowledgeable.... I've give it to GANO that stunt he pulled with Esrtada and Sandello was all time!!!! Most guys would want to win no matter what but Gano stuck to his recruiting promises. Way to go Gano!!!! And don't worry Bogan you are right there stride for stride. It was a photo finish and Gano won by the gut.

John Strickland should get some consideration for this award. He built the Covina Colts program during the Mid 2000's, and San Dimas in the Late 2000's. Look out for Bassett in the coming years!!!

I vote HAG'S no contest.

Shouldn't that headline read recuriter of the year? I would vote for a 3 way tie.

SGV430 Ouuut!!

What an amazing trio to choose from. Also, what an ERA! Gano dominated the early decade. Bogan dominated the middle. Farrar dominated the end.

Gano certainly had the team of the decade in 2003. Oh man, what I'd give to see those dudes again. I took over the Trib beat late in that season. Good thing I wasn't the man the whole time -- I may have covered that team week in and week out (just as a fan).

Bogan as Tark, too funny

CONGRATULATIONS BOGAN, NO DOUBT COACH OF THE DECADE. You and your staff are very deserving. 4 titles, 10 QUARTERS, JUST AMAZING. Especially with all those attitudes, your the SGV Jerry TARKANIAN.Taking transfers and molding them into good kids, GOOD PLAYERS AND BETTER CITIZENS

Bogan did that too, plus more titles in the decade than the other too, and the only one to make it to the quarterfinals every year in the decade

this one is easy Coach Farrar with 5 appearances in the finals has not been done by any other coach this decade so hand over the imaginary award to Coach Farrar.

Farrar's five titles don't count, because two came in other decades. Bottom line, Bogan won four championships, the other two won three. Don't want to hear how you started, or where you finished, it's over a ten year period. The coach with the most titles wins. South Hills beat an OC team in the championship, La Habra, winners of three straight titles this decade. Like I said, if you have to pick one, the one with the most titles wins, end of story. And please, don't start talking about the divisions, because none of them played in a division lower than VI.

You have to respect all three of these guys and what they have achieved in their careers, picking one over the other two over the past decade is tough. Probably the one thing that stands out in my mind about the three is they all graduated players we still remember ten, twelve years later.

But then, if it weren't tough, Fred would have already done it, right? (JK Fred, LOL).

Gano
On the one hand: Beat OC teams in Title Game, beat C O in Title Game
On the other hand: Some may say GG made his legacy on work already done by DeSpain, lost Title Game to C O, 'what have you done for me lately'?

Bogan
On the one hand: Beat OC teams in Title Game, always a deep run into the playoffs
On the other hand: Some, (like me), may feel these guys should have played in a tougher Division these last few years, 'what have you done for me lately'?

Farrar:
On the one hand: Been winning forever, his way, a true dominant program among “Mid-
Sized Schools” in the SGV
On the other hand: Some, (like me), may feel these guys should have played in a tougher Division these last few years, less than stellar against the OC schools

The Champ: Lou Farrar, started the decade strong, finished stronger.

This one is easy, and by the way as most of you you I am a Charter Oak supporter.

Coach of the decade = Greg Gano any coach that can make four appearances in a row deserves the award.

Runner up will be Mr. Lou Farrar with five rings surpassing all of these coaches with the most championships.

Then you got Bogan who was unstopable in the early part of the decade and then everyone found his weakness and started beating him in the playoffs from 2005 and on.

To bad no one cares about coach of the decade we all want to see Coach of the year and that my friends will have to be Mr. Lou Farrar with back to back championships.

You have an error in 2002 and 2003 should be VII for Bogan, just helping you out.

Not tough at all. It's Lou Farrar. Last four years in the semi-finals, back-to-back titles, three of the last four years in the finals.

Tough call, since the divisions were all fairly similar, none competing in anything lower than Div. VI, you have to give it to Bogan. He won one more title than the other two, also was runner-up and the ten straight quarterfinals proved his consistency. It's hard taking Charter Oak, especially because their last two titles were against a team that finished 7-7. Gano's teams were the most dominating by far, though, so he had the most to work with. If you have to take one, I don't see how you don't pick Bogan.