How can we make the newspaper better?
Steve Lambert, the editor and publisher of the San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group, which includes the Tribune, Star-News and Tribune, is asking for your opinion on how to improve our newspaper. Write him, this is your chance.
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Fred Robledo
Fred Robledo is the Prep Sports Editor for the San Gabriel Valley Tribune.
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Everytime I come to this blog I do a search for Sierra Vista Girls. I do this before I read your blog. Each time I am disappointed. I finally found SV mentioned in the Top 10 teams. THANK YOU!!
So I agree with many here. More coverage on ALL local teams not just a select few.
Is there a way the readers can stop the publication of certain prep news or file a petition? The tribune will publish the All-Area Team photos next week and Fred & Steve is giving the GIRLS TENNIS POY to the wrong person...what a shame?!
Does the editor check the consistency & credibility of the report? or just..ok..report completed..print..publish...done!
Bite the bullet, big time. Get past the plaque and glittering trophies and award your own cast in bronze "Tribune", say six or eight inches high, for truly outstanding individual or team efforts. Not just on the playing field or for winning anything, but maybe for how they played or for what else they did for someone, their school or their community. Shape it like a Roman soldier, one of their "Tribunes". For the Star News, make it a five pointed bronze star. Stand either on a simple base with simple messages on to who and for what it is given. That would get you involved with your communities beyond the paper and ink. You would be giving something back, not just for all this or all that, but for doing good.
Our relationship with your product begins with the last thing you do--delivery. It would seem to make sense that a morning newspaper would be delivered in the morning, before most of us have to leave home to go to work. Fortunately I don't have to do either so the usual 7:30 or later delivery is not an issue, but it would be to most of your subscribers. Second, of course, is content. You know that all news is local to one degree of another. To many your paper is the one paper they receive. So, you have to at least make an effort to cover as much news as complete as you can to satisfy them. To others, like me, a metro paper like the Times meets my need for news outside the SGV. TV and radio supplement that. I expect the Tribune to be, as your management in Denver professes, to give me local coverage. You certainly do it better than anyone else bothers to do, but you could or should do more. I understand that each constituency or community or school wants more focus on them, their activities, their teams, their players. With existing economic realities you have a time, space, and staffing problem. You could go to the colleges, jcs and high school districts and lay it out for them. We can't cover all of you without your involvement. They need to report on what they are doing. With your guidance, training, or standard formats for results and stats, they have to work with you to get this important, and it is important to them, and to you news on your desk. Your circulation base is the same as everyone else. Put their names in the paper and they will want to read it. They will buy it. The more names, more often, and your circulation goes up. Advertisers will follow, allowing you to print more pages and cover more events with more participants, and more names. I know your other So Cal papers are bigger with more pages and more local coverage. You probably have a consolidated sports desk somewhere to produce pro team and major college articles. Good, keeps costs down, and attracts readible talent. You probably could do the same for generalized prep and small college or jc results and activities. A reporter and/or photograher to cover bigger or regional stories and offer it to asll your papers. In our case, say contests involve teams in Whittier, Inland, Pasadena, or East SGV. Put your closest team on it and share the stories. There is a lot more that could be done. You know what most of that is. The Prep Blog in the Tribune is good as far as it goes, but it needs to provide more news, faster, and less of of the sophmoric garbage and name calling that it contains. Support your own as much as you want, but le the wanna-be cable news crap out. Have the One final thought for now, it would be more than nice to know where and when games or matches or meets are to be played. Maybe we would like to go. We could learn to depend on you and even buy you if we knew that you, like us, care about what is going to happen as much as what has happened. Something like Today's Games. Thanks for the invite.
Which coach? Which player?
I don't see any problem. I read the paper and think their stories are all full. looks to me like the trib covers more games than the bulletin
Didn't a Girls Soccer Coach win COY when several sources said she did very little actual coaching and came late to the position, left early from practices or didn't show up at all and were really coached up by an assistant coach? That was the start of a lose of credibility.
The reporting when compared to the Daily Bulletin is woefully lacking in volume and overall information. The Bulletin gives you local team schedules for high school, Community Colleges and Universities and Semi Pros.
One day take both Sports Pages and put them side by side...3 to 1 in stories easily. The Tribune also gives you that neat Athlete write up for HS boys and girls and also local college athletes...that alone out does the Tribune.
Not knocking anyone but The Daily Bulletin actually strives to be professional and it shows. Long Beach Press and others look awesome and coverage is extensive much like the OC Register...the DB has that feel whereas The Tribune just look amatuerish by comparison.
From talking to several sources it comes down to The Tribune is strapped for cash while the Daily Bulletin doesn't remind you of that sad fact.
I think maybe the reason I don't buy The Tribune anymore is I can check online and get more out of the stories with the blog whereas The Daily Bulletin's blog is non-existent but maybe that has to do with the fact that the newspaper info is so extensive...like in the old days.
Big Blog Numbers might spell teh end of The Tribune...we shall see...I know I', disappointed when ever I blog and THEN buy the paper....what does that say?
Mr. Lambert, please tell FRED & STEVE to do their job and be CREDIBLE enough...awarding the least deserving girl as THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR is like POLITICS & CORRUPTION!! Wake up guys!! Doing this will not help you sell your paper.....
Mr. Lambert, please tell FRED & STEVE to do their job and be CREDIBLE enough...awarding the least deserving girl as THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR is like POLITICS & CORRUPTION!! Wake up guys!! Doing this will not help you sell your paper.....
Mr. Lambert,
First things first...the online format is great. When it comes to reading online I like that:
a) I don't get my house-shoes wet on Saturday and Sunday morning.
b) I can read at work without looking like a non-productive douche.
c) It is interactive (blogs, videos, podcasts, etc.).
d) The words aren't smudged from the sprinklers.
e) I don't have to reach under or move my car entirely to get it.
f) It's free.
Some of the things I miss about reading from the paper are:
a) Restroom readings.
b) The actual feel of the paper.
c) The box scores.
d) The pictures (for some reason I only read content online and don't take the time to look at the pictures)
e) The keepsakes and mementos of family and friends created from "cut-outs."
In all honesty, I only buy two newspapers a year: the prep football preview and the Christmas day All-Area paper. Not sure if it's nostalgia or that its an easier read than the online version, but those two days are about it when it comes to shelling out $0.50. I'm also not quite sure how to duplicate that throughout the year either, but I don't think you guys are worried about $0.50 as much as you are about the advertising.
So, here's some more reality. I read ALL of my college and pro information in the LA Times. Always have and always will. Not that it's the best thing going, it's just that it's much better (to me anyhow) than the local paper. When I get the PSN, I gloss over ALL of the college and pro stuff and go RIGHT to the prep stuff. Hell, when the LA Times prep section wasn't relegated to Pop Warner status, I always read the prep stuff first.
I don't know how others feel, but I think it'd be great to allocate MUCH more funds towards prep coverage (and even JC) and cut back on some of the college and pro stuff...except during things like Bowl season, March Madness, and the playoffs. Whenever I've visited the Midwest I'm always amazed at how much in depth coverage their papers have in their prep sports sections. I have no connection to ANY of the programs out there, yet I LOVE to read all about their local teams. And just like it is out here, the smaller the paper, the more prep info there was....though it is MUCH more than our own.
Now, I'm speaking football, basketball, baseball, soccer, and track here. Of course, outside of football, some areas are more interested in certain sports, like basketball in the WSGV and baseball in the ESGV. That can be monitored by the amount of hits you get online for each sport and tailoring your coverage to fit those needs. I know that fans and families of kids in the smaller sports hate to hear it, but it's a business, right? The only stories I read on the less popular sports are the "human stories" that Miguel actually does a GREAT job with.
So, all in all Mr. Lambert, localize the coverage even more and give us preps year round...including more football during spring and summer. Hope this helps!
The Stang Fan
Interesting comments. Here's a simple suggestion. Have the paper co-sponsor a basketball tourney so it gets plenty of exposure to the students you are trying to reach, you will get all the scores and create interest with your coverage. Base decision on which school to work with based upon their tourney planning, cooperation, focus of LOCAL schools large OR small and don't just cover the same large schools. There are thousands of student-athletes in high school. Mid Valley News has a great goal...to get every student in its area mentioned at least once for something positive and sports can be a way to reach that goal. Want to co-sponsor a tourney, reply to this e-mail.
As far as prep coverage goes, I don't think you guys spend enough time sucking off Amat. You should really take note of the posts on your blog pages...According to most, Amat is the best and there is no other high school worth covering in the SGV. They play better competition, they have better players, there is a "solid" excuse for each loss...it should be Amat all day, every day so f the rest of the schools.
Also - get rid of the guru once and for all
You know, you guys dont have a bad product, but what you do have is a problem with compeating when there are other options that exist in what I would call "todays world of information distribution."
Keep in mind that while readership may be down, that it's only because of the fact that you are guys are having to compete with a generation that has other options available to them. Often, these future customers dont even know who you really are and as a reulst, they largly ignor your product.
So the question here is, how can you compete against, Myspace, Facebook and the internet in general when it comes to the information dollar ?
Well, perhaps what you can consider, is to emulate what Apple computer did in the not to distant past in their battle with the PC's.
If you recall, Apple had a problem with the fact that this generation was mostly learning about how to access information on PC's instead of on their MAC's. Kid s mostly only knew about that kind of electronic device because thats what they hhad not only in school, but in thier homes.
So what apple did was to go after that core market, by offering children in the schools an oppertunity to get real exposure to thier products. The started a progam where almost eevry school had a MAC and while it was an hughe undertaking, it was very successful.
So with that, perhaps what you can consider doing, is to do something like this. Go to the local schools in this valley and try to make some sort of an effort to work with the folks who publish any all all typs of media. Create different types of products that would be disseminated to the kids, and put your stamp on it. You can begin with the school newspapers if there are any, and if not, help the schools to create one. Again, with your label on it. Then what you can do, is to branch out into other types of publications. Everthing from the school yearbooks to the football media handouts that you see at sporting events. In other words, build a foundation for the future by insureing that your product gets exposure. In this way you can at least begin to compete, and maybe at the same time sell more newspapers.
The list goes on and on with respect to what you can do here, but in the end, look at this market because it's whats going to make or break you in the future and if you dont belive me, ask Apple.
, but at the same time by making people have an infomed decidion about the products that they offered.
they made people aware that there was a choice.
You want people to read your paper...shut down the blog as it exists to day. Have some foresight into what works and what doens't. The live blog of games was great because people were accountable and linked to a facebook, myspace or twitter...lack of accountability creates infighting.
Actually get a Marketing Dept work up of what works and what doesn't.
Miguel Melendez actually said on his blog that he went out with the boys rather than cover a game....incredible.
The Dailiy Bulletin Newpaper and this blog would make for a perfect day...too bad Pete Marshall and Clay Fowler don't write for the Tribune.
The fact that AMAT is consistantly covered is grea... Its the reason I subcribe. I do however whould like to see a section in the sports section dedicated only to prep sports... going beyond SGV, since I am obviously an AMAT fan and since AMAT plays league games outside of SGV, it would be good to be able to read about them too. So have a prep section where you can cover all local schools, both big and small, along with the schools outside of the SVG that our teams face....that will be great, that would surely get more subcribers
FRED, STEVE:
IT DID NOT SEEM YOU GUYS REALLY TRIED YOUR FULL BEST THIS YEAR...... LAST YEAR AND THE YEARS BEFORE YOU GUYS HAD VIDEOS FOR EVERY SINGLE GAME OF THE WEEK FOR FOOTBALL, AND THEY WERE GAMES FROM SCHOOLS THAT ARE ACTUALLY FROM THE VALLEY!!! THIS YEAR THE GAMES OF THE WEEK WERE COVERED VERY POORLY BY YOU TWO AND YOU WOULD SHOW GAMES LIKE THE PASADENA VS MUIR GAME AND SAN MARINO VS ROSEMEAD.... AND ALSO I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY VIDEO COVERAGE FOR ANY GAMES FROM THIS YEARS PLAYOFFS!!!! WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?! NO SOUTH HILLS VS DIAMOND RANCH VIDEO COVERAGE?? NO SAN DIMAS VS AZUSA VIDEO COVERAGE?? NO CIF CHAMPIONSHIP MONROVIA VS SAN DIMAS VIDEO COVERAGE?? NO CIF CHAMPIONSHIP CHARTER OAK VS DIAMOND RANCH VIDEO COVERAGE??.... AND ALSO FROM THE YEARS BEFORE YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE VIDEOS OF YOU INTERVIEWING SEVERAL KIDS HONORED FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR FROM DIFFERENT SPORTS... AND NOW YOU TWO DO NOTHING LIKE THAT ANYMORE!!!!!........ ALSO PLEASE NO MORE BLOGS FOR PROFESSIONAL SPORTS STORIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PREPS SPORTS!!!!................... PLEASE FRED AND STEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS ALL I ASK FROM YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sports lover, isn't that what Aram used to say? Must be right then.
Criteria & basis for the award that SGV Tribune is giving as the Player of the Year for each specific sports which does not concern the coaches or the players themselves.The decision is solely from their own point of view and opinion.
More and wider prep sports coverage...if I want the BS I'll look at the times website.
Like All Blue said but for a different school: BONITA 24/7!
I like my paper dry, so can we go back to paper boys that know how to put in the right place. Oh and they have to ride a bike.
Someone who looks deeply in the criteria and basis of choosing the right players? I guess that rules out all the coaches who vote for all league teams.
Get my paper on the porch everyday! Damn grass is wet in the morning!
Write about AMAT everyday!!!
hire a true,dedicated & knowledgeable sports reporter who knows sports by heart. who will report the actual sports happenings and who looks deeply into the criteria and basis of choosing the right players who deserve recognition and award. a reporter who is sincere and diligent to his job.
Cover smaller schools and other sports more. Focus more on teams in the SGV, not Chino Hills schools or SFV that actually are NOT in SGV. More stories about local athletes. People can go online for pro football and pro baseball stats so you don't need pages about the pros and only one page about preps. You would probably get a lot more subscribers if the papers actually had more local sports and news coverage. Also, must you focus on failure in sports championship games? Why not picture the winners or losers trying? The runnerup team has to have worked hard to get there. Example, instead of saying Monrovia lost again, why don't don't you focus on the fact that probably not many other schools have played for that many titles, win or lose. After all, all but one of the schools memories will be about winning it all. High school sports should be about academics, teamwork, discipline, sportsmanship, improvement and building a program that all levels at the school can be proud of and create good lifetime memories.
How about hiring an actual sports REPORTER. Someone who will deliver the actual stories about the goings on in SGV sports. Someone that's not afraid to ask the questions that need to be asked from coaches, admin, CIF, and parents about the current state of our SGV programs. Steve, and Fred are great at handling the fluff writing, but it would be nice to have someone on the clock who might make some people think twice about their actions, if they thought someone was "watching".
come out with the all league honors for sierra league!
You can start by making KH a full time correspondent within the sports dept.