Bishop Amat is re-working football schedule

It appears that Bishop Amat is making big changes to its football schedule. The CIF-SS games wanted list shows that Bishop Amat is looking for opponents in Week 0, 2, 4, 5 & 9, which would mean almost a complete overhaul of its nonleague schedule. Athletic Director Mike Manzo confirmed for us that the school is making adjustments to its schedule, but said it would be more appropriate for coach Steve Hagerty to explain the reasons, so we will wait for his call. Assuming the Lancers play St. Bonny in week one, their contract with Damien in week 3 is still on, Spartans coach Greg Gano said. But what happens to games against St. Paul, Dominguez, and perhaps West Covina? We’ll keep you posted when we get more information. BTW, In addition to playing Diamond Ranch in week 1, Damien has secured a game with El Dorado in week 4, but still needs a week 5 game.

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  • JFR

    This story sounds familiar to what happened to another school last year that had success the prior year so many schools dropped them. The head coach had to scramble to play anyone possible just to fill a schedule. The school has been hammered to this day about playing cupcakes even after winning another ring. I wish you luck because many top 25 teams saw what you did last year and won’t want you to blemish their record. Beware of the cakes!

  • big difference

    the difference is this guy will play anybody in any division anywhere anytime – not only schools he can beat in similar divisiosn within a 30 minute drive

  • hey wait a minute

    Hey didn’t Charter Oak have a week 0 open? Amat has a week 0 open. Why didn’t Charter Oak want to schedule Amat? Because I heard Charter Oak turned down the offer to schedule Amat.

  • Spartan 4 Life

    Hey Fred, I noticed you mentioned Damien still has an opening in Week 5. Going through the CIF Games Wanted List, there’s alot of good teams still looking for a Week 5 Opponent. Examples, Mission Viejo, Alemany & Tesoro. How about giving Gano a buzz a asking him what’s up???

  • JFR….Common man…your joking right?

    I hope you are not referring to Charter Oak. Besides Bishop Amat, CO has not faced a true Pac-5 powerhouse.

    In regards to teams dropping CO because of CO’s 2008 chamnpionship, only Aliso Niguel and Pioneer dropped Charter Oak. Pioneer is not a football power but Aliso Niguel is a newer Pac-5 school. They lost to Charter Oak 30-14 in 2008 and also everyone else that year.

    But believe it or not, their game with CO was their CLOSEST defeat of the season. They lost to everyone else by an average score of 46.11 to 10.00!If AN was going to drop a school for fear of a repeat defeat, it would NOT have been Charter Oak. They would have dropped Newport Harbor who beat them 58-7 or Fountain Valley who destroyed them 48-14! Their other preseason losses, save CO, were also similar in score.

    AN reluctantly joined the Pac-5 in 2006 and have yet to play a Pac-5 powerhouse or make the Pac-5 playoffs. As a matter of fact, they have only won TWO league games since joining (this is a 6 team league). And those two wins took place in 2006. It’s obvious, they have no business in the Pac-5.

    Everyone else on CO’s schedule finished their contracts (Diamond Bar, Rancho Cucamonga, Damien, Etiwanda)so I really don’t know what your talking about.

    CO’s been accused of cupcake scheduling because instead of shooting for a genuine Pac-5 powerhouse like Long Beach Poly or Mater Dei, Farrar scheduled Gardena and University. And then HE HAD THE AUDACITY to blame it on traveling distance.

    Let’s try to stay realistic here ok? Maxpreps has lots of useful information. I encourage you to research before posting.

  • bulldog

    I think West Covina has had enough of Bishop Amat. The game was closer in 2009, but honestly, the game was still a statistical landslide. I dont even wanna talk about 2008. Plus I hear Bishop is returning alot of good players.

  • Referee

    Bottom line Charter Oak has to play their rival Glendora before they should ever consider playing Bishop Amat. How would Bishop Amat feel if they stopped playing St. Paul? Your program would never allow for your team not to play your rival.

    So no one can blame Charter Oak for going after the opportunity when the challenge arose again. Now with that said everyone knows Glendora is up next year and Charter Oak is down so interesting how suddenly Glendora wants to play them again regardless your argument is weak!

    My suggestion is focus on worrying about finding preseason opponents or maybe you too will have play University and Gardena next year.

    Turnaround is fair play boys!

  • Dave Samarzich

    It is about time to have Bishop Amat and Upland High play.

  • JFR

    common man, yes it was tongue and cheek but the year before La Mirada dropped us along with Glendora. I love how you guys have short memories, CO BA could have happened this year. Please remind them Fred, you were all over this last year. Not trying to ripple the waters on this tired crap but that is FACT.

  • JFR

    common man, would you schedule BA if you were CO this year? We have five starters returning and one is a two way starter. We had the best frosh team in many, many years but why throw them to the wolves so soon. They are going to have their hands full with this schedule. We are probably not going to be playing Gardena after this year so week one should be open next year. Let’s start beating the drums now for that one.

  • JFR = Just Friggin Retarded!

    JFR get a stinking life! what does co have that you amat doesnt have already??? Amat plays in the pac 5 not the Central or southeast. Stick to playing D1 and D2 teams, worry about getting games for this season.

  • makes me chuckle

    CO wants to pretend they’re on par with Amat as a football program but everyone on here has been saying “this would be a good year, not that year, etc”
    If you have to pick and choose what year you think you can compete – you’re not in the same ballpark

  • jcaz

    I’ve been saying al this time that St Bonnies will not play Amat next year. Not because they dont want to, but because they have only one game available to play out side of their league and Long Beach Poly has already been inked in for that one.

    As for the rest of the year, it looks a if hags is going to have to have a bye week only because there are not week 9 games out there on the table. i kind of wonder what happened there because that is usually when the team is in the middle of league play.

    So, the way I see it here is the football schedule for Amat next year:

    week:
    0 – Corona Centennial or Harvard Westlake
    2 – Rancho Cucamonga or Carson
    4 – Mission Viejo or Tessoro or Saugus
    5 – Charter Oak (other teams also available)
    0 – Bye week (no body available)

    Now, if I am correct, and BTW, I know I am with respect to St Bonnies, because we dont have them on our schedule for week one next year, we can get Servite. They are available.

  • JFR

    RETARD, I was speaking with common man. I find it funny how people who use the word retard are often just that, retarded. Read everything below before you respond please.

  • football jones

    Hey BA,

    With so many open dates, why not give La Habra a jingle?

    Less than 30 minutes away and the Highlanders are willing to take-on PAC5.

    BA would be favored but LH comes prepared and would give BA a good game…just ask South Hills.

  • Sux2BU

    SGVsWorst – you’re absolutely right. Why beat Charter Oak, Damien, Glendora, Diamond Ranch, West Covina, Rancho Cucamonga, Muir, St Francis, St Paul, Muir or any other local schools they are 22-2+ against.
    Sucks when the mediocre, has-been participants kick @$$ on the kiddie ball pop warner teams in the FishBowl.
    687-376!!!

  • Tello

    sux2bu
    Tello says Pasquie over at glendora has those two wins vs amat while at Ayala and Damien. I was at the first glendora/amat game in 04 and they almost got you that night. Does any other valley coach have a win vs amat?

  • The Truth

    Truth of the matter is that all these teams don’t want to get humiliated by Amat. The rest of the SGV is 2-22 against the so called “mediocre PAC-5 participant.” The truth also is SGVsBest loves AMAT..otherwise he wouldn’t have attened the Camp held by Hags. I mean how does he know about “The Wood?”..cause he went to the Lakewood/Amat game…to see Lakewood? No. He went to watch Amat. What a loser/hypocrite SGVsBest is.hahah.

  • CO rules

    Bishop schedules down? Now we can start ragging on Bishop like everyone does our team. Go get those cupcakes Hagerty.

  • scheduling up

    looks like Amat is getting rid of some teams they already swept. maybe it’s time for a new challenge and they want to schedule up. BTW – what exactly does CO rule?

  • somerman

    please play bonita,you have kick everybody butt in the area ,would love to see you guys take on bonita. if your thats good, its just another win in pre season so fred can keep your dreams alive being number one in the area aall year intell playoffs come around, why cant you guys play bonita, we smoked you guys in basket5ball already this year,and you guys crushed us in wrestling why not give us poor little pubic school a change to play at amat high level of game.it would be a great pre season for bonita then next week amat then glendora with the pre season all american qb. hes good .think about it we will play you guys .your little rb will have his hands full agiasnt bonita lb

  • bracketology

    I’ll let the story speak for itself….

    *********

    Jon Mack named Encino Crespi football coach
    A graduate of and former assistant at Sherman Oaks Notre Dame, and head coach at Ventura St. Bonaventure for 17 years, Mack will be returning to his San Fernando Valley roots.

    Eric Sondheimer

    4:48 PM PST, January 23, 2010

    When Jon Mack was an assistant football coach at Sherman Oaks Notre Dame in the 1980s, he used to try to inspire his players for their rivalry game against Encino Crespi by describing the Celts’ school colors in not very complimentary terms.

    So understand the culture shock he embraced on Saturday when he was introduced as Crespi’s new football coach. He’s a 1978 Notre Dame graduate deciding to take over the program of the neighborhood rival. His 10-year-old son, Justin, was given a brown Crespi sweatshirt.

    Celts fans have reason to rejoice because Mack has proved himself to be one of the best high school coaches in Southern California. For 17 years, he was the head coach at Ventura St. Bonaventure, where he transformed the Seraphs from a little-known small-schools program into a Southern Section powerhouse, winning seven section titles and compiling a record of 163-47-1, including a 43-game winning streak.

    He decided to resign at St. Bonaventure after the 2006 season for the chance to coach college players. In three years at Ventura College, he took his team to two bowl games.

    But he clearly missed being in the spotlight, and the opportunity to return to his San Fernando Valley roots helped pave the way for his decision to accept the Crespi job.

    The Celts have their own rich football tradition, being the only Valley school to have won a Division I championship, in 1986 when Bill Redell was the coach. They returned to the Pac-5 Division championship game in 2007 but failed to make the playoffs the last two seasons, and Jeremiah Ross resigned as coach.

    Mack is known for his fiery demeanor, as is his wife, Kathy, a teacher at St. Bonaventure who patrolled the sidelines cheering loudly for Seraphs players. She’ll now do the same for the Celts.

    Mack does have some explaining to do to his many ex-Notre Dame players and friends. Jeff Kraemer, the longtime Notre Dame line coach who graduated with Mack and had him as his best man at his wedding, said his friend’s decision to join the Celts “is like Tommy Lasorda going to manage the Cincinnati Reds.”

    Crespi Athletic Director Matt Luderer knows what Mack may be in for. While Luderer and two of his brothers graduated from Crespi, another brother, Mike, went to Notre Dame.

    “We haven’t talked to my brother since he left for Notre Dame,” Luderer said jokingly.

    But Celts players, parents and alumni warmly welcomed Mack during the announcement in the school’s new multipurpose building. Ex-Crespi players Kevin Prince and Joseph Fauria from UCLA were in the audience.

    Mack intends to commute from his home in Ventura, but he’s prepared to get to work immediately.

    “I will be here Monday morning, and I will challenge you to beat me,” he told the audience.

    While Crespi made a strong bid to land Anaheim Servite Coach Troy Thomas, a former Celts coach, Mack appears to fit the requirements of someone who can make an impact at the all-boys school.

    “Obviously, the challenge is the competition,” Mack said. “The league is incredible and the division is incredibly competitive. Those are huge opportunities and huge challenges that we need to rise up.”

    As for expectations, Mack said, “No one can put more pressure on themselves than I put on myself. No one will have higher expectations than me.”

    eric.sondheimer@latimes.com

  • SGV

    Hey SGVsBOOB. AZUSA, and not ASUZA. You definitely didn’t go to AMAT. WHAT A LUG NUT!

    Quit with your nonsense!

  • charter oak

    BISHOP AMAT IS CHECKING ROSTERS AND LOOKING FOR SCHOOLS THAT DONT HAVE A LOT COMING BACK..FUNNY HOW THE LAST 2 YEARS THEY WERENT KNOCKING AT CO’S DOORS AND ALL THE SUDDEN THEY WANNA PLAY..YOUR BIG YOUR BAD YOUR TRASH

  • Here we go again…

    charter oak

    You are absolutely right! Bishop Amat was sooooo afraid to schedule Charter Oak, that they had to settle for the #4 team in the United States of America in St. Bonaventure!

    LOL!

    Charter Oak struggled against Gardena, Muir, and TWICE against Diamond Ranch. Bishop Amat would have punished the Chargers this last season.

  • SGVsBest

    Ah! Will you look at that!
    .
    Looks like Uncle Fred is protecting his little #1 valley school. Taking down my comments but leaving these morons on to make fun of me! Funny!
    .
    The fact remains. No Defense, No Ring, No Banner, and No Championship!
    .
    And did I say No Defense?

  • Sux2BU

    SGVsWorst- did we say 22-2? How about 687-376? SGV must be really bad!

  • Dan

    I wrote this on a couple of other threads, sorry for the redundancy.

    Rest in peace Coach Bill Dunn,
    Greetings bloggers, This morning I went to the Memorial that was held for WC Coach Bill Dunn who unexpectedly past away last month, it was held at Christ Church of the Valley. It was a beautiful day to celebrate and honor the life of Coach Dunn, there was a big turnout and it was inspiring to here the stories and memories of Bill’s life from 4 great perspectives.
    Coach Mike Maggiore, Neighbor Paul Russell, Coach Tim Brancheau, and former pro baseball standout and life long friend of Coach Dunn’s Tom Brunansky, all gave their personal accounts of the friendship and the experiences they each had with Bill and of the effect that Coach Bill had both on them and on the kids of West Covina high. Bill was a fixture at the West Covina fields, I and many others constantly looked forward to seeing and talking with him whenever we were there, he will be greatly missed at West Covina and I feel sad for his Mom and his sister for suffering thru such a great loss.
    Rest in peace Bill Dunn, you will always be remembered.

  • SGV

    SGVs BOOB!,

    THE FACT REMAINS: DUDE WHO CARES! Are you some type of attention (H*re) who is trying to take on the whole SGV?.

    Your constant bagging on AMAT, is completely moronic. Your comments are child like, and have become a nusiance. Listen up menudo breath, please shut your pie hole up and blog something worth reading, because your polluting some decent articles.

  • Smallcitymc

    football jones agree with you 100%. La Habra would be an excellent opponent. They are a top caliber team year in and year out. There are only a few teams in the SGV that would be able to match up against them and Amat is one of them.

  • warewolf213

    Excuse Me SGVsBest,
    I do not understand why you say that Amat has no defense next year!

    There are indeed big names that have graduated such as Kane, Casarez, and Johnson, but there is talent that has still remained.

    To begin, ALL THREE STARTING LINEBACKERS RETURN next year and that includes Michael Juarez, Aaron Bowens, and Austin Lacy.

    Next up, we have a FIRST TEAM ALL LEAGUE DEFENSIVE END in JULIAN GENER RETURNING for the outside rush.

    As for the D-LINE, there is some Big talented Underclassmen that are ready to step in.

    As for the secondary, haha, even though we lost DJ, we still have Martin Sandival who was beastly against Mater Dei this year, then we have the young freshman who actually PLAYED during the Lakewood game.(Even though we lost,he still is just a freshman and will get better) At the safety spots we still have Rio and this other kid Acuna that you have never heard of because he’s been injured.

    Also if needed we still have the young RB Shay that could play corner or Safety and already has game experience.

    So Amat Has no defense? well with 7 starters returning i highly question your logic.

    I believe this further shows your stupidity towards Amat and all i ask is that you STOP!! Everyone here has had enough of your stupid comments. At Amat, our athletes strive for a ring thats actually worth something, Not some silly Division 3 or 6 CIF ring. Try a D-1 CIF CHAMPIONSHIP RING in the PAC-5 Division.. That is something worth bragging about that we strive for every year. Something your school will never have the ability to attain.

    SUCK ON THAT MENUDO You ignorant FOOL!

  • AnotherDayAtTheOfficeForAmat

    Just found this on the LA Times. The rebuilt Serra League Champs, Bishop Amat Lancers, have been one of the reasons for Crespi to find a new coach. You have to love PAC-5 football where the best come to play and where coaching matters. Continue to represent the SGV Amat. Continue to win and all of the SGV will come. An army to compete against the best of the Orange County to San Fernando Valley and the Inland Empire.

    From LA Times

    When Jon Mack was an assistant football coach at Sherman Oaks Notre Dame in the 1980s, he used to try to inspire his players for their rivalry game against Encino Crespi by describing the Celts’ school colors in not very complimentary terms.

    So understand the culture shock he embraced on Saturday when he was introduced as Crespi’s new football coach. He’s a 1978 Notre Dame graduate deciding to take over the program of the neighborhood rival. His 10-year-old son, Justin, was given a brown Crespi sweatshirt.

    Celts fans have reason to rejoice because Mack has proved himself to be one of the best high school coaches in Southern California. For 17 years, he was the head coach at Ventura St. Bonaventure, where he transformed the Seraphs from a little-known small-schools program into a Southern Section powerhouse, winning seven section titles and compiling a record of 163-47-1, including a 43-game winning streak.

    He decided to resign at St. Bonaventure after the 2006 season for the chance to coach college players. In three years at Ventura College, he took his team to two bowl games.

    But he clearly missed being in the spotlight, and the opportunity to return to his San Fernando Valley roots helped pave the way for his decision to accept the Crespi job.

    The Celts have their own rich football tradition, being the only Valley school to have won a Division I championship, in 1986 when Bill Redell was the coach. They returned to the Pac-5 Division championship game in 2007 but failed to make the playoffs the last two seasons, and Jeremiah Ross resigned as coach.

    Mack is known for his fiery demeanor, as is his wife, Kathy, a teacher at St. Bonaventure who patrolled the sidelines cheering loudly for Seraphs players. She’ll now do the same for the Celts.

    Mack does have some explaining to do to his many ex-Notre Dame players and friends. Jeff Kraemer, the longtime Notre Dame line coach who graduated with Mack and had him as his best man at his wedding, said his friend’s decision to join the Celts “is like Tommy Lasorda going to manage the Cincinnati Reds.”

    Crespi Athletic Director Matt Luderer knows what Mack may be in for. While Luderer and two of his brothers graduated from Crespi, another brother, Mike, went to Notre Dame.

    “We haven’t talked to my brother since he left for Notre Dame,” Luderer said jokingly.

    But Celts players, parents and alumni warmly welcomed Mack during the announcement in the school’s new multipurpose building. Ex-Crespi players Kevin Prince and Joseph Fauria from UCLA were in the audience.

    Mack intends to commute from his home in Ventura, but he’s prepared to get to work immediately.

    “I will be here Monday morning, and I will challenge you to beat me,” he told the audience.

    While Crespi made a strong bid to land Anaheim Servite Coach Troy Thomas, a former Celts coach, Mack appears to fit the requirements of someone who can make an impact at the all-boys school.

    “Obviously, the challenge is the competition,” Mack said. “The league is incredible and the division is incredibly competitive. Those are huge opportunities and huge challenges that we need to rise up.”

    As for expectations, Mack said, “No one can put more pressure on themselves than I put on myself. No one will have higher expectations than me.”

  • COChargerfan

    Hey warewolf213, do you not realize that by belittling everything but a Pac-5 Title as being worthless, you give reason for many folks especially those that watched their kids sacrifice and work very hard to earn those D6 titles more than justified reasons to dislike Amat supporters and, thus, find humor in comments from folks like SGVsBest instead of outrage? Think about it.

  • joey p

    Harry Welch going to coach Santa Margarita is also a step up in coaching for the Eagles. This guy can coach.

  • just askin’

    Question for COChargerfan (and any other CO honks out there). If CO were to win the new 6 team Sierra League against Chino Hills, Ayala, South Hills, Damien, and Claremont – would you view it as a bigger accomplishment than winning the watered down 5 team Miramonte League, especially after the decline of Wilson/Los Altos/Bonita?
    Would it be a bigger accomplishment if you were to advance through the playoffs and win the Central Division Championship, overcoming the power of the Inland Empire and the successful Baseline teams – than rolling through the Southeast without leaving the San Gabriel Valley and beating a .500 team in the finals.

  • COChargerfan

    Just asking, the question isn’t whether winning a Pac-5 title is more difficult than one in the Southeast (it obviously is) but, instead, is the propriety of belittling the kids and teams that work very hard to win these “lower” division titles and the negative light that one shines upon themselves by doing so and, by association, their fellow Amat honks…including you. Lance R, AMAT 73 and other Amat supporters get this…what I’m saying is that dudes like SGVsBest are empowered by the kind of comments from warewolf213 and joemama and this just makes other casual readers somewhat amused instead of appalled.

  • just askin’

    COChargerfan – I didn’t mention the Pac5 at all. I asked how you would feel about those potential CO accomplishments compared to those which you’ve already achieved. That’s all.

  • CO rules

    At Amat, our athletes strive for a ring thats actually worth something, Not some silly Division 3 or 6 CIF ring. Try a D-1 CIF CHAMPIONSHIP RING in the PAC-5 Division.

    Yeah you keep striving for something you haven’t won in 14 years. YOU CANT WIN WHEN IT COUNTS.Count me one of the ones whose is amused by SGV best. CO RULES.

  • COChargerfan

    Just askin…my first response was to warewolf213′s comments that only the Pac-5 matters, which is why it was mentioned by name.

    As to your question, a team can only play the other teams that line up against them so the victor achieved the ultimate goal that was in front of them…so no matter what the level of play, each division winner is a CIF Champion which should be applauded not diminished.

  • just askin’

    COChargerfan – your dance around the answer is answer enough. Thanks.

    CO rules – if you can make it all the way through reading the entire question – maybe you can try to answer them too.

    here goes:
    If CO were to win the new 6 team Sierra League against Chino Hills, Ayala, South Hills, Damien, and Claremont – would you view it as a bigger accomplishment than winning the watered down 5 team Miramonte League, especially after the decline of Wilson/Los Altos/Bonita?
    Would it be a bigger accomplishment if you were to advance through the playoffs and win the Central Division Championship, overcoming the power of the Inland Empire and the successful Baseline teams – than rolling through the Southeast without leaving the San Gabriel Valley and beating a .500 team in the finals.

  • well?

    COChargerfan

    You have yet to answer just askin’s question…

    It’s simple really. Would you prefer another Southeast (Division 7) title or would you prefer a Central (Division 5) title which would include playing against the Baseline? Or how about a Division 2 title playing schools like Redlands Easy Valley and Corona Centennial?

    If you could choose your title, which would it be and why?

  • Pride of SGV

    COcupcake doesn’t know how to answer that because obviously they’ve never faced real competition.

    Oh BTW Amat wrestiling 58 Charter Choke Wrestling 15. Another beating just a different sport.

  • SGV

    Here we go again with this (CRAP), AMAT and Charter Oak. COME on lets get over it. Until both coaches agreee to play with each other, will just have the XFACTOR???

    Don’t blame THE SCHOOLS, blame the C.I.F folks for keeping in them league for so long.

    Please the engerizer thinkinking keeps going on and on and on… This topic is old.

  • SGV

    SGVs BOOB,

    Thank you for staying off the BLOG with your ridiculous comments. Your crap stinks, menudo breath and your comments have NO bearing about football.

    What??? your doing a little overtime at Chuckie Cheese today, because it’s been real nice not seeing your stupidty (HERE)!

    SGV’s NONSENSE…

  • Doc Brown

    SGV – didn’t the schools already play each other? And didn’t the CO AD ask to get out of the final year of the contract?

  • The Blue and Gold Lancer

    Come on folks lets get real here. Charter Oak has a very good football program but comparing them to THE BIG BOYS is unacceptable. Bishop Amat beat some of the best teams in the NATION this year and Charter Oak dominated their below than average opponents. See the difference? Stop Comparing the two. They are both very good football programs in different divisions, but comparing them is unfair.

  • Now I want to know!

    If CO were to win the new 6 team Sierra League against Chino Hills, Ayala, South Hills, Damien, and Claremont – would you view it as a bigger accomplishment than winning the watered down 5 team Miramonte League, especially after the decline of Wilson/Los Altos/Bonita?

    Would it be a bigger accomplishment if you were to advance through the playoffs and win the Central Division Championship, overcoming the power of the Inland Empire and the successful Baseline teams – than rolling through the Southeast without leaving the San Gabriel Valley and beating a .500 team in the finals.

  • again…

    COChargerfan

    You have yet to answer just askin’s question…

    It’s simple really. Would you prefer another Southeast (Division 7) title or would you prefer a Central (Division 5) title which would include playing against the Baseline? Or how about a Division 2 title playing schools like Redlands Easy Valley and Corona Centennial?

    If you could choose your title, which would it be and why?

  • SGVsBest

    Uncle Fred is sells Newspapers!
    .
    CIF is the “King Maker!”
    .
    For the past 16 years, the Pac 5 Participants from LaPuente have not and cannot win the Big One. Therefore, cannot and will not ever be “Kings”
    .
    wherelobo123-
    Retruner does not equal good! You have no Defense! No front line, Linebackers have no speed and DBs are playing with the little white ball.
    .
    Go ahead and keep telling yourself you can win! You know deep down inside that you’re just a Participant in the Pac 5.

    Give it up cuz you don’t belong!
    .
    Lakewood said Nah…nah…nah…you know the rest!
    .
    LaPuente Menudo rules!!!
    .
    Amat Girls Futbol is #1. Its the other footbol!

  • SGVsBest

    COChargerfan -
    You’re wasting your time with this wondering fool called ‘just askin.’ You see this is all he does. He has no answers. Just questions.
    .
    Perhaps he should tells us why in its futile way his LaPuente boys keeps Participating in the Pac 5. Knowing that they can’t win. Surely they know they can’t win? Don’t they?
    .
    Com’on…what is this? Practice? Prac…Practice?
    .
    LBPoly,Lakewood, NotreDame, and the OC schools? Do they really dream about it? I think they’re happy just to participate. Kind of like HB, Aliso, and the other bottom feeders.
    .
    Give it up cuz you ain’t gonna win! No, None, Nada, Nil, Niet

  • SGVsBest

    If I could choose a title I would take a CIF Championship that comes with a Ring(s) and Banner(s).
    .
    If I could choose a divison I would choose the Pac 5, but we all know we only have 1 Pac 5 Participant in the SGV and the LaPuente Bills are not winning a CIF ring any time soon.
    .
    Answers the question very clearly. Agreed?
    .
    No Defense LaPuente Braves!
    .

  • Math Whiz

    why does this yahoo have a hard on for Lakewood? They’ve NEVER won a ring. EVER!
    BTW-do the math. Title in ’95. This was ’09. 14 years, but who’s counting-besides you?

  • another thing

    plus Lakewood is like 1-8 vs Amat and this is as good as they’ll be. Coach is even trying to leave-interviewed at Santa Margarita and poor Thad didn’t get the job – so he’s gotta stay. but they’ve peaked and he knows it

  • checkmate???

    I think COChargerfan will never admit that a league and CIF championship accomplished at a more difficult (or superior level of competition) would be “sweeter” than a run for the D-7 title.

    I think it’s obvious that most people would agree that a CIF championship game against D-2 Corona Centennial or D-4 St. Bonaventure would mean considerably more than a game versus Diamond Ranch.

    But again and despite the obvious, I do not expect COChargerfan to openly agree with this because if he does, he must also agree that the ULTIMATE prize is a Pac-5 ring.

    And he would be right because the Pac-5 is always loaded with California State ranked and often Nationally ranked squads EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

    Although I do not expect him to, I believe COChargerfan should honestly answer the question without skipping around…

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    To answer the persons question on what means more a D7 or a D1 Ring. Yes the Pac 5 is where most of the best football teams in Socal participate in. On paper the Pac 5 sounds better and might rate better but when it comes winning a championship you can not belittle these kids accomplishments. You tell me what school in the SGV has sent out football players to go get a free education and a chance to play saturday afternoon every year… Charter Oak is consistant when it comes to winning there league and lately even the CIF title. Its not which ring is better its if your squad is still playing in December. Do you think Rio Hondo Prep cares if there ring is in the d12 or d13, no they dont, but we always hear about them playing in December. Don’t forget CIF renamed the divisions because of this pointless arguement. When other teams in the SGV start doing what they are suppossed to be doing in December with the exception of CO and San Dimas you guys can create an arguement about “whos ring is better” The SGV still does not have a PAC 5 ring so whats the arguement about???

  • just askin’

    SGV FOOTBALL – rather than stating the obvious as a negative, the question was posed as a positive in order not to diminish a championship. Which would you feel would be a GREATER accomplishment? I would not expect Charter Oak honks to throw this back-to-back under the bus, but to simply admit that winning the Southeast was nice, and doing it in the Sierra/Central would be sweeter.

  • Aaron

    Honestly here, I’d be proud of both because both took hard work to achieve and a championship is still a championship.

  • just askin’

    Aaron – were you as proud of the “A” you received in Phys Ed as the “A” you received in the most difficult class you ever took?

  • COChargerfan

    Ive been busy and not avoiding anyone. So, heres a question for the only climbing Mt. Everest really matters crowd. Two men get married; guy D1 to a supermodel and guy D7 to a nice, girl next-door type. So, is only D1s marriage sweeter and D7s should be snickered at because D7s bride isnt a supermodel? Or, should we congratulate both couples on their marriages? How about job successis everyone out there a failure that doesnt make $250K a year? Or is a man that works hard for a modest salary and provides a home and food for his family a success? What Im trying to get across is that success is not reserved for only the few that climb to the top of the highest mountainnor is it for only the team that wins a Pac-5 title.

    And, for you Amat guys that are always going hypothetical on us with stuff like wouldnt you rather win this, that or the other, Im saying that a team can ONLY beat the teams that they are scheduled to play and hypothetical match-ups with teams from some other division, state, country or planet are pure fiction. CO is what they area single public high school with around 1,900 kids in a small school district and to say hypothetical stuff like wouldnt you like to beat an IE school with enrollment of 3,600 in a district of 16,000 high school kids is nonsense. It is also nonsense to expect CO to compete with private high schools that are reportedly paying their coaches $100K a year. Ill say it again, the CIF slots schools according to the criteria of geography, enrollment and competitive equity and not some hypothetic wouldnt a Pac-5 title be more meaningful crap.

    What I find almost frightfully funny is some of your guys short memoriesdo you really want to start talking again about those lower division baseball and girls basketball CIF and State titles? For a taste, it goes like this, if lower D titles are so meaningless to the Amat faithful than when are you going to take the banners down from the gym and ask all the players to throw their rings into the trashcan? Because Im betting that the players from these championship teams are pretty proud of their accomplishments and would tell you all to go jump into a frozen lake…or, perhaps they would help with a push.

    In the end, it is not about which title a team or for that matter their fans covet but, instead, of winning the Division title in which a team is playing. Anything else is HYPOTHETICAL.

  • Confusious say

    He who can’t tell difference between good and great accomplishment – never make great accomplishment.

  • COChargerfan

    For the literate folks that care, it is “Confucius” not “Confusious.”

    And a few tidbits from Confucius that seem appropriate: “Everything has its beauty but not everyone sees it” and “He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good.”

  • Confusious say

    “Confusious” “Confucius” older, smarter brother – just no market self so good. Too many letter. Too “confussing”. See – I get CO, how you say, “honks”. “Confussed”! Get it? HA! Make self raff! ROFR! HA! Did it again!

  • AMAT 73

    just askin,
    I really do not see the point of your question . I mean what is the basis for it . In my eyes the fact that CO shut out all of the league opponents says a great deal and no matter how watered down you perceived their league to be , that is one great accomplishment.Really not one league opponent scored on them . They really did what everyone said they should and that was win league and CIF and did it very convincing. Now if they go on to win their new league does that take away from last seasons accomplishment no it does not . Which would you rather have, I say both and although winning now means they stepped their game up but maybe to CO it validates what they knew all along . That they could move up and face tougher competition and still win. We don’t discount any championship we have ever won simply because are latest are at a higher level . A championship is a championship and special to that group of players on the team at time . What about AMAT’s first football titles . Are they any different or less celebrated then the 4-A or recent titles ( setting up the villiage idiot with that one ) no they are not. I yes it would be a big accomplishment but bigger than the others no because those were special at the time they happened and the two should not be compared due to competition or division. Now here’s one for for you just askin . God forbid,but if CIF mved AMAT down to the next division below the Pac -5 and we won the title would that diminish the accomplishment as not as good because we didn’t do it the Pac-5 .

  • SGV Athlete

    AMAT wants to schedule some big names. Well according to the Games Wanted list, these are some good ideas. (Ranked in order of interest):

    1. BISHOP GORMAN (LAS VEGAS) (Aug 27 or 28) (This could be a televised game)
    2. CENTENNIAL (CORONA) (Great Match-up)
    3. RANCHO CUCAMONGA
    4. CHAMINADE (unless they already have them scheduled)

  • Insider

    Insiders tell me Amat for sure is trying to set up one or two of these open dates with any of these four team listed.

    Mira Costa
    Hart
    Upland
    Redlands East Valley

  • schedule

    I am happy to hear that Amat is revamping its schedule…..it is much needed… It could make the difference for Amat…

    BTW I also heard about Amat wanting to schedule Upland….

  • Basic

    Big fish Small pond…

    Why is that the “new” Amat faithful find it so hard to say “Hey Congrats CO, you guys did a great job and brought a title to SGV” and leave it at that? They diminish what these kids did and therefore diminish their beloved Amat. By what some Amat faithful put on here, if it’s not a D1 title it doesn’t matter “only D1 titles count?”, and IF that’s the case, then why does your baseball team not have any titles in D4 oops they JUST got moved there so how about D5 and even IF they did, it would not mean ANYTHING right? or how about wrestling titles, you are in the same division as Bonita, and Wilson “D7″ and yet no title. Now do you see how annoying your comments are. Most of the proud old timers at Amat understand this and act accordingly but some of these new “Amat nation” people just don’t think of all the other sports or of all the kids.

    I know I might get blasted because of my comments but it is so annoying to keep hearing the same bs over and over and over and over again.

    Most CO fans and non-CO fans can agree that CO had one of the best teams in the SGV last year, a team that would have competed with Amat and maybe beaten them but most fans also know that they can not consistently compete with Amat, after all Amat is private and recruits from ALL over and CO only recruits from neighboring cities…So yes Amat has a great D1 program and all props to them but CO had a Great team this year and congrats on that. There that wasn’t to difficult….

  • Anonymous

    AMAT’s going to play Garfield and Damien next year

  • Spartan 4 Life

    Everyone’s comparing what CO has done in their old division vs. the Central. Forget that, CO will have their hands full in the Sierra. What awaits them is Chino Hills, Damien, Ayala, Claremont & South Hills. 4th or 5th place doesn’t look to bad right now. Welcome to the big time my friends!!!

  • Reality Strikes

    To Basic,

    Amat cares only about football. There other sports are important to them but their real bread and butter is football. Like USC Most are football loyalist, when it is over they drop out of sight and do not even consider Basketball or baseball. Some of the USC football people jump to UCLA basketball altho most will not admit it. All in all just like this blogs bread and butter, it is all about football for Amat and this Blog. Amat stirs this blog always, nothing changes and Fred is smart enough to know it. All Fred has to do is post a Amat football topic and it is like feeding hungry sharks in a frenzy, the bites just start piling up. This blog is dominated and controlled by Bishop Amat.

  • Arroyo Knight

    Damn the biggest one game schedule up will be Arroyo vs. Hart next year. This is the same Hart that SLAPPED amat a couple of years ago, beat Loyola beat Mission Viejo, Canyon Country etc.
    Arroyo lets try and bring everything we got to the table. Lets hope we play at home because I dont want to see 50 people in the stands in Newhall. Yikes!

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Spartan 4 Life,

    HA dont forget in this past decade we have owned the spartans you guys have only beaten us twice. Dont be shocked when your spartans dont make the playoffs, I say it again the top three teams will be Charter Oak, Chino Hills and South Hills, with Charter Oak playing either Chino Hills or South Hills for the # 1 seed out of the Sierra.

    Opps did I let the cat out of the bag, fourth or fifth place doesn’t look so bad if your a Damien Spartan HAHAHA. Maybe Damien can petition to be put in the Miramonte maybe they can compete in that league and get past the first round…

    AMAT 73,

    Some of us get it on this blog but others just don’t want to get it. They are just here to stir the pot with the same old thang.

  • OC gone from Hart

    Arroyo Knight, It’s the same Hart, but not the same as a few years ago. Hart lost their OC to Alemany. The last couple of years, Hart has no quality wins. Sure they beat Canyon, but Welch was gone. So it’s really not the same team that was beating a the good ones. Good luck to arroyo.

  • joemama

    Two guys get married, to each other, or was it that two guys get married, one to a total slut and the other to the girl next door type. The slut is a total knock out but the girl next door is not as pretty, but hey, the slut makes over 100,000 a year at the local strip club and poor little Suzie only earns 30,000, nevertheless we should be much more proud of her accomplishments over little Suzie because the slut made money than little Suzie did. How stupid was that ?

  • Knights Fan

    Hart is a program that is always putting out decent football teams and altho they have fallen off a bit they always come up with well coached football teams. Up north it is 3 schools that get the players. Hart, Valencia and Canyon, altho Saugus has been making a push. Crespi and Notre Dame as privates get some of their players. Arroyo playing Hart is a big step up for a team like Arroyo. Arroyo’s Coach has gonads to play this game. Arroyo should have called on St. Paul or Damien for a game. The team that needs to step up its game and play bigger teams is Walnut. They play weak teams, get into league and get whacked. Has Nogales named a coach yet?

  • douchebagjoe

    joemama now we know where all the hurt feelings come from. lots of “uncles” spent the night huh? so tell us what’s it like having a stripper for a mommie? bet parent night memories still sting huh? what was her dance name, lucious?

  • WWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT ????????????

    joemama,
    Maybe all the thinking about that slut has you dizzy. Now think of something else and go over your post and try again. Something was lost between you thinking and then you trying to write with the hot dollar girl on your mind. Maybe you’ve been hitting those strip clubs with sgvsworst that he seems to know so much about.

  • Lancers of the midway

    Everyone needs to stop talking about AMAT/CO. Charter Oak won their D-7 championship and congrats to them on their accomplishments, but AMAT plays on a more superior level than CO thus making it more difficult to win a championship, especially in the PAC-5. That’s all there is to it. Just stop.

  • BigDog

    Fred
    If South Hills couldn’t get by Diamond Ranch the last to years then how will they ever be able to compete with Charter Oak and Chino Hills.Chino Hills Just beat Diamond Ranch in the last minute as well.Just looking at South Hills it looks like it will be a down year for them anyway not having quality players in the positions they need to be competitive with Charter Oak and Chino Hills.

  • DROP THE B/S AND ANSWER THE QUESTION!

    AMAT 73 & COChargerfan

    Would you guys prefer another Southeast (Division 7) title or would you prefer a Central (Division 5) title which would include playing against the Baseline? Or how about a Division 2 title playing schools like Redlands Easy Valley and Corona Centennial?

    AMAT73…….WOULD YOU TRADE IN A PAC-5 CHAMPIONSHIP FOR A D-7 RING AND WHY????

    If you could choose your title, which would it be and why?

    JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!

    ITS SIMPLE!!!

    PERHAPS “JUST ASKING” SHOULD ASK IN A JAPANESE? FRENCH? LATIN?

  • SH has plenty!

    SH has nobody, r u kidding me! Jamel Hart, Vincent Hernandez, Jamie Canada, and Ryan Longoria….. Offensively and Defensively some of the best in the valley!

  • BigDogKnows

    SH ha plenty of what!
    All unproven.I guarantee you will get spanked by Charter Oak and Chino Hills

  • Aaron

    I bet you to the players they mean the same thing. I’m serious about this one here, if you put in the work from day one and you win the championship in the division you’re in as a player it means that you accomplished your goal.

    As a fan of a small high school, it means the same to me, because unless I was once at the DI level and then moved down I wouldn’t know the difference.

    And the analogy of my A in PE class and the hardest class I’ve ever taken doesn’t fit because they are two different things and the fact that PE is a joke. As far as Charter Oak is concerned, maybe realignment should be every three years rather than five?

  • South Hills Watchdog

    Longoria is a family name that has had generations of family traditional play at Los Altos for years so if and when he transfers to South Hills C.I.F. should and will declare him ineligible because absolutely there is no other reason for that child to play at South Hills other than for “athletically motivated” reasons just like Canada so God’s speed to the Huskies..!

    ‘If You Ain’t Cheating You Ain’t Tryin!’

    One year, one time, I would like our school and program to ‘do the right thing’ and just for a change play with our own kids in our own community that can contribute and are just as gifted and talented if not more so than the TRANSFERS we continue to ‘sneak and cheat’ in to our world!

    FredJ,

    Please do your investigation reporting on this noteworthy news!

  • No Brainer?

    Of course it would be considered a greater accomplishment playing and actually winning in a more difficult league and/or division! You don’t have to be a Bishop Amat fan to see this. Ask West Covina how exciting it felt to play Mater Dei or South Hills when they played Tesoro.

    Anyone want to take a stab at why COCharterfan will not admit this? It’s obvious isn’t it? CO has never played a Mater Dei or a Tesoro.

    I got another question. Would Charter Oak trade their CIF Championship for a preseason victory over the eventual Pac-5 champion, Servite? Let’s keep in mind that a victory of this magnitude would have made national headlines and would have definitely been all over local papers as well as LA Times thus instantly elevating Charter Oak football to “big boy” status.As a reminder, the CO/DR championship was not mentioned in any other newspaper except the SGV Tribune.

    This should be interesting…

  • Dan

    To drop the bs and answer the question.
    Your as thick as a brick, of course if anybody could pick a division title they would pick to win in the hardest division, CO chargerfan and Amat 73 and most others here understand that.
    What you and a couple other Amat honks with the same superiority complex don’t seem to get is that a lower division title is just as important and just as rewarding to those kids who win it as a pac 5 title is to the kids who win a Pac 5 title, it is no less a feat, the lower division kids will ususlly have much less talent to play with, their accomplishment is just as great as the teams who are stacked with much more talent
    that win the Pac 5. Like it was mentioned before, if Amat was dropped to D3 and went on to win a title, the kids at Amat who put in the blood, sweat and tears to win the title would be just as happy and proud as any of the past Amat champions. For you and others to come on here and diminish the hard work of our sgv kids in the lower divisions is classless and tarnishes the reputation of Amat fans.

  • Awesome Players + Poor Coaching = Loss to Diamond Ranch (or Almost Getting Beat By Muir)

    Yeah I really have not been impressed by South Hills the past couple of years. They’ve gotten a lot of hype (thank the guru) and had some great players but they lost to Diamond Ranch two years in a row. You know what it means when a football team thats loaded with talent loses or struggles againts teams they should have beat or even blown out? It means it’s time to spring clean the coaching staff.

  • joemama

    douchebagjoe, unlike allot of the idiots in this blog I can take with you as far as you want it to go. I have read your posts before and it seems to me that you like stuff about child abuse because you seem to have it going very strong in your head. I think that maybe it’s because of something that you must have experienced first hand before.

    Ya, maybe it was one of those priests who got to you, and maybe you really liked it and now you cant get it out of your head. So now you say all of these stupid things to all of these Amat blogers all of the time because you secretly want to revisit that moment once again. Douchebagjoe your one sick duchebag.

  • ANSWER IT

    ANSWER THIS QUESTION. HOW DOES THAT AMAT BASEBALL TEAM LIKE WINNING A DIVSION 20 CHAMPIONSHIP HUH? ANSWER THAT ONE.

  • Let’s Go CO who said “Hell NO!”

    PART OF SGV TRIBUNE ARTICLE
    By Fred J. Robledo, Staff Writer
    Posted: 01/25/2010 09:27:25 PM PST

    “Bishop Amat just finished home-and-away series with Diamond Ranch and West Covina that will not be renewed, and a much-ballyhooed game against two-time CIF-Southern Section Southeast Division champion Charter Oak never came to fruition.”

    “Without getting (too specific), we tried calling everyone,” Hagerty said. “And we’re continuing to make phone calls. One way or the other, we will get them filled.”

    TRANSLATION: Bishop Amat called Charter Oak to play a game and Charter Oak said, “no thanks.” This makes NO sense to me because BA and CO are within half hour drive of each other!

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT FOOTBALL FANS?

  • Goldenarm

    Dan,

    Amen to that.
    The recipe to think otherwise is a combination of arrogance/elitism and a serious lack of understanding to what it takes to put together a good football team, regardless of the talent make up.

  • COChargerfan

    Hey No Brainer…wouldn’t Amat trade their pre-season win over St. Bonnie’s for a Pac-5 Title? The answer is obviously YES so what really matters is the CIF Title and not pre-season wins…do you need any help pulling your foot out of your mouth?

    Some folks, including me, live in the here and now without thinking about hypotheticals…you need to quit dreaming about stuff like would you rather be married to Jessica Alba or J-Lo…because it isn’t going to happen. The same as CO was not able to compete for a Central Title last year. If CO wins the Central in the next year or two then your question will then be wouldn’t you rather win a Pac-5 because that’s the whole point of your argument. So, if Amat wins a Pac-5 Title but is not selected to the State Bowl would it be fair to diminish it by arguing wouldn’t they rather win a State Bowl game?

    The answer is that a team can only win the games that are on their schedule so arguing about hypothetical dream games is nonsense.

  • Mr. Huskies

    PART OF SGV TRIBUNE ARTICLE
    By Fred J. Robledo, Staff Writer
    Posted: 01/25/2010 09:27:25 PM PST

    “I don’t know if we can win at that (Pac-5) level, or when we can get to the top again, but we want to keep trying. And just because we don’t win, it doesn’t mean we don’t belong there because every year is an exciting adventure to see where we end up.”

    TRANSLATION: We’re not good enough now and probably never will be again to win at the (Pac-5) level but we’ll keep trying. I know everyone else realizes we don’t belong in the (Pac-5) but is still exciting to win a few games every year and get beat in the second round.

    YOUR COACH LITERALLY ADMITS ON RECORD THAT YOU CAN’T AND YOU WON’T BE A REAL CONTENDER IN THE PAC-5 EVER AGAIN! ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC AND EMBARRASSING AND YOU SHOULD FEEL THE SHAME IN HIS COMMENTS BECAUSE THAT IS A DEFEATED QUOTE THAT SAYS HONESTLY NO ONE BELIEVES YOU CAN WIN ANYMORE IN THE PAC-5 ESPECIALLY IN YOUR OWN RANK AND FILE. SO MUCH FOR HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TRADITION.

    I say transfer now Lancers to the Huskies and be a part of a new era! We play Pac-5 teams! The Scouting Guru can still get you scholarships and probably more and to better schools! We are your next C.I.F. Champion and will be at a higher level than anyone has seen around our Valley has witnessed for a LONG time!

  • AMAT!!!!

    oh com’on…. you have taken what Hagerty said out of content…. what he is saying is that it is a tough divison and he isnt going to go on record to say its anything else but tough… He cant say that a PAC 5 win is in the bag… if Amat drops to divison 2 or 3 the win will be too easy… HE is stating that although they are not winning the PAC 5 championship they belong there because the teams in the PAC 5 give Amat what they need, competion….

  • CO is scared of AMAT

    Why did Charter Oak decline to play AMAT????

  • SAME OLD SONG

    Mr Huskie,
    That sounds like that same tune you dogs were yelping last year . CIF champioship and so forth and look what happened Diamond Ranch . Maybe now that you won’t face them in CIF you feel you can win it but you would still have to face CO and that spells a loss for you . Yes you play Pac-5 teams but you always lose to Pac-5 teams and for some reasson won’t play the local Pac – 5 team. Now why would a kid from Amat if he was to transfer go to a loser like SH when he could go to a proven winner like CO. Go back behind the fence and save all that barking for later in the day when the postman delivers your mail. By the way you name one coach who has come out and said winning the title in any division will be easy , most coaches do come out and say they don’t know if they will and also it will be a hard thing to do against the competition they face but they will do the best they can. Your translation is typical huskie wannabe a champion at any cost.

  • Posers Ball

    Posers on the left and Posers on the right:

    Quite obvious the blog is dying so some have resorted to Posing as trouble makers on both sides of the CO/BA droning. CO as a two time Champions is equal to BA’s two time Championships in Baseball. Regardless of who you play in preseason in the end BA only had to beat the teams in their division and CO had to do the same. BA was moved up one single division and lost to San Dimas in the semis, so let’s not forget that. Which brings me to my main point, San Dimas has enjoyed a great resurgence and yet no one is spending any time giving a local school, with local kids, credit. On this blog that might be a good thing.

  • “What’s wrong Colonel Sanders?…….Chicken?”

    COCupcakefan

    Your continued avoidance of answering the most simple question reminds me of how Coach Lou avoids great competition. And now Charter Oak passes on playing Bishop Amat. You guys just won back to back CIF Championships and just graduated 5 D-1 players and yet you guys are scared to play the Lancers?

    Ya’ll got called out and ran. How sad.

  • COChargerfan

    Hey simple mind, I’ve answered the “question” a couple of times but apparently you lack the intelligence to understand. Here’s the kind of stupid question you are asking…would you rather be the Pac-5 participant Cabrillo (0-10) or CO, the Southeast CIF Champ? I’ll await your answer but suspect that youll run like the puppy dog you are

    I, like all the rest of the bloggers, wasn’t involved in the phone calls, but from what I’ve read CO had already completed their schedule so adding Amat wasn’t an option. So, those of you that say CO was “scared” to schedule them are just blowing smoke. Besides, I have read lots of comments that Amat has nothing to gain by playing the lowly CO so they aren’t interested in this match up. So, saying the CO doesn’t want to play appears to be nothing but egotism.

  • BidDog

    Mr Husky
    What are you smokin……..

  • realist

    Here’s is what Coach Lou is afraid of…

    http://www.vimeo.com/8585794

    Bishop Amat football players compete on an entirely different level and their fans are completely at home at this level and rabid in nature. They are returning a squad that would completly annihilate all San Gabriel Valley schools. You cannot seriously expect a school like Charter Oak or South Hills to be able to compete with them. Let’s cut them some slack ok?

  • BigDogKnows

    Realist “get real”
    Charter Oak would compete easily and would probably win.One thing CO does better then any team in the SGV is getting in the weight room and is by far the best conditioned team in the SGV.Something they have always done. Amat beat a Mater Dei team on a down year and seemed to be just an average team in a Pac-5 sub par year. Actually Amat had a better team last year and barely just got buy a sub par Mater Dei team and i know for a fact they will not be as good this year as they were last year.BigDogKnows

  • Measured Results

    BigDogKnows you’re full of it. They were not the best conditioned team if for no other reason than Chris Allen’s body. A three year starter with possible D1 offers doesn’t look like the Michelin Man his senior year. Sorry. As far as the other players you speak of which played added muscle or sixe that wasn’t doctored for the scouts/programs. Look at your linemen, they look like the Washington Redskins of Hog Day Glory. Let’s look at track times for your stud speedsters. How many improved their track time. You know what track time is right, that’s when they run around an oval from blocks. What a bunch of bull.

  • Your Mater Dei Education…You’re welcome!

    BigDogKnows

    I love it when the ignorant come on here and pretend to know something about Mater Dei when whey probably have never seen them or played against that great program. Do yourself a favor and go to Maxpreps.com and look up who Mater Dei played this year and more importantly, who they lost to and by how many points.

    This “down” Mater Dei squad lost to #2 in California and #6 in USA Hunington Beach Edison by ONE touchdown.

    TEN POINTS!…Is what separated Mater Dei from #1 in Calfornia (California State Champion) and #2 in USA Servite High School.

    Mater Dei doesn’t have “down” years, genius. But really, you support Charter Oak and Charter Oak wont even play Bishop Amat let alone a program like Mater Dei…

    You don’t know jack, Jack. woof!

  • BigDog’s a LittlePuppy

    and that Mater Dei loss to Edison was in DOUBLE-OVERTIME and Edison needed a blocked FG in the final minute just to go overtime. Sub par? Everyone is always in here talking about Corona Centennial and teh INland Empire powers – Mater Dei BEAT Centennial. Average?

  • HE’S BACK

    Don’t look now but the teh is back . One slip and it spills all the beans . We knew you couldn’t or wouldn’t stay away very long.

  • BigDogKnows

    Believe BigDog
    Any time Mater Dei losses to Bishop Amat the boosters at Mater Dei consider it a down year.And you can take that to the bank.I herd it from a long time booster at Mater Dei. It is what it is dog….

  • Loosen your collar Dog…Your brain needs blood to function!

    LOL @ BigDogKnows

    You can stop lying and embarrassing yourself now man.

  • WRONG TEH

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