Don’t forget about Adrian Franco (2011) from Bishop Amat who also verballed to San Diego State.

Amat Man:

My mistake, Adrian Franco can flat out rake, great glove speed and arm. As mentioned so many greeat ones to follow, the SGV will be exciting to watch. Add Dylan Goodwin Diamond Ranch, Travis Santiago Charter Oak etc. the list goes on. Keep up the great works boys you have a bright future!

the eagle has landed,

your player will do just fine at the JC of his choice.

Fred,
Did I miss something? I would think winning an individual state championship in wresting would qualify as an athlete of the week in the newspaper, West Covina’s Samantha Ortiz won a State Championship in wrestling and she isn’t listed in todays paper, was she in last weeks?
We also had a State runner up in Alyssa Luna
wouldn’t that also qualify as an athlete of the week. If you already listed them in last weeks paper my apologies.

It consistanly baffles me when people that don’t know what is taking place continue to wrtie like an authority! If you only knew that since colleges have shown interest in these kids their grades have gone up, not down. GPA’s are in the top 80% of their respective schools, they have taken PSAT test already scoring very high and studying for their actual SAT. France, Saylor Ruiz and most others are on an NCAA track to meet their college requirements and will probably be complete by the end of their Junior year. Tell me how many sophomores have a plan. I know of several that do and they have all been mentioned over the last few days, kids at this level aren’t there by accident it’s deliberate, through hard work both on the athletic and academic fields.

The bottom line is – those writing negative comments don’t have a clue about the kids they write about nor the requirements to make themselves successful. I know the type, it’s always someone else’s fault! What about me? How come I never had a chance? It’s pretty obvious – you never had a plan- these kids do. Be happy for the kids, the school, the community don’t be jealous.

Theses boys all of them mentioned are driven in baseball, school and life. Wake up develop your own plan you’ll be better for it.

to theeaglehaslanded

you say: If san diego state is chasing freshmen in high school then they must suck.

now they won’t in 2013

Agreed everyone is entitled to their opinion! So I stated mine based on facts. Most people base opinions on facts, draw and itelligent conclusion then state their opinion – not just what they think is the popular thing to say. Those type of opinions are more commonly known as “dumb comments”.

Ty France is a Stud!!!
congrats!

Fred
Baseball is Soooooooo Boring i would rather watch soccer.And Fred i would have to to disagree with you.I don’t think baseball in SGV could compete with baseball in the OC there are just to many quality baseball programs out in the OC.

Dear Crystal Balls,

Exactly what was it I said that wasnt true? You travel ball guys here get worked up kind of easy, dont you? Tell ya what chumley, dont let the rarified world of the Bombers or the Bandits or the Arsenal go to your head. Its a long hard slog.

FWIW I did say the kid was a good ballplayer, read my post. It had to do more with the tone of the report than the boy but maybe that was too fine a point for someone willing to tout a High School sophomore here online.

Don,

Don’t you think the program Ty and CJ’s comes from explains the whole process to them? Their program explains to them that after committing you need to keep working hard in the classroom and on the field. Nothing changes in the work ethic. What rarified world are you talking about? If this is Don of past posts you should know how their program works.

Hey Don, instead of worring about a sophomore from a school 10 miles away, why don’t you focus on your problems in your own back yard (no need to elaborate). Ty and CJ are good kids with good parents who know what they are getting into and knows exactly what has to happen over the next 2 and a half years. They both have great support systems and will do very well. Their success is based on their talent and hard work. SDSU verbally offered and they verbally accepted and this blog covered the story. Just say congrats, tell them to keep working hard and move on….they don’t need your guidance and we don’t need your commentary.

No…it’s La Verne

dons taking the heat.
bring the heater on .we love to wrip your mid high fastball.
two years ago south hills league mvp is redshirt at mt sac.
great kid,the program dosent have them ready.
what is every kid going to sdst. kid only a soph. to committ,what the hell for,can he get out of this verbal,or dose he have to go to that school.am asking ? dont really know.sounds more of a ego thing then a positive thing.i hear there holding the h.s umpires client at s.h this year again and the number two guys get to do the s.h playoffs. where do i sign up first, pitch of the game am calling a balk,just to get it out of the way.as far as don saying what he said hes right ,hes a baseball man,love to talk ball with don.if you dont like somebody just stay the hell away from them.but because what are two boys bring to the ball field everyday ,dont be a hater.keep teaching your boy to slap and run..and bunt for that ave. every team needs a punch and judy hitter so the real hitter will drive them in.see u at the field brother.

Its amazing how worked up some of you can get when my only comment about the kid was; the young man in question is certainly an excellent ballplayer. You would have been on me with pitchforks had I said anything bad about him but by now you know I dont make negative comments about kids and I didnt here. What did seem to strike a note of nastiness in some of you was my reference to parents who encourage their kids athletic efforts and ignore the class work. Sorry if that hurt anybodys feelings, I should have known someone would take it personally even though I was speaking to that component of your readership not the Frances or the Saylors. We all know (place your favorite schools name here) never had a problem with a player missing games because of academic ineligibility or had a blue chip prospect pass on a four year deal because he/she didnt have the grades. Yeah, that happens everywhere else, right?

Someone called it a cautionary tale, a pretty baroque definition for a 31 word sentence but hey, you have to consider the source. Speaking of the source, Its interesting to note that folks comfortable with posting anonymously should make such a big deal about how much they think they know about me. I would encourage them to remember that most of us who take the time to post commentary here do not make inflammatory statements or negative remarks about any kid regardless of how clever you think you are or how protected you think your anonymity makes you.

I questioned the blogs coverage and get a defensive dad and personal attacks. I answer by asking which part of my original post was incorrect and get, thats right, more personal attacks. Some of you need to just read whats written rather than try to read something into it.

this is to kh,

I’ll keep the words small so you can follow.

You are an idiot. Stay off

the blog.

In my book, these verbals are pretty silly…heck, we are now hearing about 12 year olds committing to colleges for football. And these verbals have about as much real value as the Monopoly money in your closet…ask yourself, where you going to spend it? And, most of all, they are a one way street for the benefit of the colleges because if they don’t want you when the actual time comes to sign they’ll say they never knew you kid. And, if you are really good there will be many colleges after you and at that point the same college will be in your living room talking about honoring your committment. So, while verbals are nice for the ego, in reality you are being played…

hater,
explain yourself,
about how we ended up in l.v.
you seem to know something i dont even know.
we moved to l.v after i got divorced.k.c. and i moved here.thats are story.
i have never been on the run,like you say.
think about it,your on the run not stating your name,your running from that little scared moster your building up inside of you.get some help.or maybe your just a drunken fool,you can get help for that to .i learned inless my house is prefect then how can i worry about yours.

stop it with everybodys hates us here in lv, your breaking my heart.they didnt hates us when little man came off the broken foot and rattle off 12 or 15 tackle to give s.h. the biggest shake up of there season.so when knott or podley dosent want us here we will respect that and play the next season at a jc his senior year.go take one of there 9 spots.theres not any of you guys going to stop me or son from any thing we want,the writting on the wall,quit hateing and get out there and train your kid.where looking for a huge season in football,trying to bring home the gold.so why hate on that,i dont talk about the head coaches,if i say were going to win and they fill the presure,good,earn your money and demand respect by kicking the other teams ass.its not about how you play the game,thats a bunch of bullshit my friends,its about beating the crap out of the next team,every single game,thats it.if fred would change the format of blogging,making the blogger accountable for his name behind there blog.this thing will fold.or it would really take off and the haters would have to rethink there thaughts,because now there going to have to face there hidden mosters .now many guys would be calling out kids and there dads if they had to go face to face with them.once the season starts wont here from me,god i hate too leave most of you drunken fools

Come on COCF what’s up with that? If your son got a verbal you’d pee your pants. Where do you get off minimizing what is a hard earned acknowledgment of a kid’s promise and potential.

As far as “verbals” go the Bulletin did a nice piece on a Colony RB who gave a preseason “verbal” to Portland State then ran for 2000 yards his senior year and was offered an “official” visit to Washington State, you know…in the Pac 10. Kid “turns it down” because he …”GAVE HIS WORD”.

YOU KNOW LITTLE ABOUT FOOTBALL, APPARENTLY LESS ABOUT BASKETBALL AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT HAVING CLASS.

Hope I didn’t name call you. Just calling it as I see it. Stop being a turd.

COCF, “in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king”.

You aren’t blind as much as you are jaded, in both eyes. Ok my frined, explain this…..

Every school that verbals a kid puts that information out for all to read, see and act on. Wouldn’t you agree? So when little old SDS “verbals” a kid doesn’t he pop up on everyones radar? Everyone from bigger & better funded &more successful schools plus the major leagues. Everyone “steals”, in theory, your guy, or at least tries to. Is that not right?

As far as the Portland State and Washington State example, that’s called integrity. Something, from your past Norco comments you know very little of.

The point being made or the inference being made in your earlier posts are only more blatantly reinforced when you say a “verbal is worthless”. Maybe in your opinion but not many others, which is fine.

Many students recently took their PSATS and if your son has an email account he can see who has interest in him. My son just got his invitation for Summer classes at Brown, Northwestern, Chicago and yes even “that” school. Are their “overtures” meaningless or are they based on potential/promise. Promise as in aptitude…in case you start nitpicking when your brain power cells go ……dddddddaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!

Here’s my point, life is a series of challenges. Along the way there are many “markers” telling you where you are and where you’re headed…”if” you continue along a chosen path. Verbals are like that if you chose to see them that way. You are correct, it was a lot to assume your comments were “cautionary in nature”, my apologies. In truth they were the words of a man, jilted was the word you used, who has never understood the value of promise, potential and or acknowledgment.

Give kids a chance, let parents have their day in the Sun and in the words of Martin Luther King free you mind of pettiness and shout yourself free of trying to teach the world that “reality is accepting normal”, come on say it with me…..FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST…THANK GOD ALMIGHTY I’M FREE AT LAST!!!!!”

Still no name calling, your only defense.

Actually, I’m a realist that sees something for what it is…nothing more and nothing less. And my kid scored in the 97% on the PSATs and is an honors student and yes we have received literally hundred of recruiting literature plus emails including from most of the best universities in the country. And you know what I do with it…I throw it away. You know why…because it is worthless junk mail. But, what will matter is when he starts applying next year and then receives a real letter of acceptance…then it will be time to celebrate, not before. Some folks don;t count their chickens before they hatch and others do.

Ivy…actually he’s a junior so around this time next year he’ll have a decision to make and not a minute before.

In parting, I wish young Mr. France the best of luck but if he were my kid I’d tell him to keep your options open because if you continue to develop as a player and person you may want to explore what is out there in the big world.

Without mentioning my son’s school I have a concern that I’m asking the public’s help please.

My son is currently pitching on the Varsity and is a Freshman. He has potential and probably since were not a top tier team will have to pitch for his team.

My concern is he’s “raw” and never played travel ball before so he NEEDS coaching. Our school does not have a “real” pitching coach so I’m asking anyone to guide me towards a private pitching coach.

Is their anyone locally in the East San Gabriel Valley that is reputable that could help my son get to the next level meaning survive as a Freshman pitching at the Varsity level versus teams like South Hills?

dad.
you dont need pitching lesson.
dame hes on varsity as a fresnmen
now that could be tough.
heres my e-mail love to work with kids.for now just keep playing exart long toss,and stop throwing the curve ball, its shorten the arm strenght.theres no presure on him. hes only a little fr. thats kool,make sure this head dosent get to many negative this season and i have a summer team always looking for young arms.where local and play in the senior babe ruth league. e-mail bballhuth@aol.com do you guys play us this up coming season my sons a jr. on bonita dont get your check book out too early.save your money,if your schools like are ,you will need about 600.just in booster funds good luck

I know this is all in good fun regarding verbalitis and suckitis but no one seems to talk about the outstanding job Northview does every single year. Some one has to give these coaches credit. My brother in law coached quite a few of them in Little League and most weren’t the most well off financially yet here they are earning full rides to some top universities against all odds. any one have some info on the Northview coaches and their background in the game. Big props to them and all the Northview Fans who get it done for those kids.

Oldtimer were the Pedroza’s recruited? Maybe you know their story as well. Maybe then I”d believe a single word you say. Haven’t the Pedrozas been the back bone of that program’s rise?

When you are good, you don’t have to recruit. Like all professions, you will get sought out. When you are not, you do what Covina does, start up a Covina High Prep Program – Covina Vikings Football. You guys have the nerve to say others recruit. Come on now. No one made a comment about Covina and you throw the first punch towards us? Why did you do this Carillo? Now, you will have to read crap about your kid on here (not from me), but from those who do that. Respect your kid and all programs and just be a dad.

Carillo wouldn’t post under an alias–he’d use his real name nor would he dirty up a thread like this, they are good friends.

I don’t know why you think that calling a verbal worthless is a put down as I never intended it to be such…what I’m saying is that it is not a contract or offer that confers any legal rights…which is why it has no actual value (i.e. is worthless, Monopoly money, etc.)it is what it is.

And my original post started with the silliness of recent news that 12 year olds are giving football verbals. Does anyone out there really believe that this isnt an exercise in silliness? If so, Id like to hear why. And Id like to hear at what age does the silliness start/end?

For me, it ends per the NCAA rules that first allow baseball coaches to make written contact on Sept. 1st of the start of a kids JUNIOR year or telephone calls and off campus contact on July 1st, which is after the end of their junior year. Let me repeat that againno contact at all before a kid is a junior and no telephone calls or personal contact before JULY, which is after a kid has completed their junior year (e.g. they are now seniors).

So, it is against the NCAA rules for any kid that hasnt completed their junior year to personally meet with a coach or any other college representative. And that a college cant actually offer a scholarship UNTIL a kid has met the academic entrance requirements. And a kid cant even register with the NCAA clearing house until they are juniors.

Hmmso the NCAA has specific rules to limit this silliness but Im the one whose opinion is absurd? Get a grip folks, get a grip

COCF, it’s amazing how incredibly dogmatic you can be when confronted with your foot in your mouth. Truly you are an artist.

Congratualtions to Ty, Cj and their families, this is wonderful news…….
I have a few questions that I am confused about….
How is it possible for a college to discuss anything and offer an unofficial visit with a player, if they are not suppose to communicate with them until the end of their junior year?? Are their grades as a freshman and sophmore not considered at a 4 year college (I thought they were)??? Am I to assume the average 2.0 student can be offered a full scholarship solely based on their athletic abilities???
I am not saying anything negative about these boys they are obviously talented players, I am a little confused on NCAA rules…

ChargerFan I always knew your were a Confused Parent, now apparently you do to. NIce try.

Mr Charger fan (poor You) does everything out of your mouth need to be so negative… Did you write the NCAA rules?? That parent was just asking questions, you obviously were offened for something that has happened to you… This could be a parent of a freshman trying to learn the rules, why cant you just be helpful instaed of an ignorant IDIOT!!!

From every comment I’ve read the name Coggin seems to at least have the best resume. I appreciate the offer from kh and Tiffany may be an outstanding alternative but a neutral third party without either having recently played for a local high school or that currently has a son playing for a local high school seems to be more fair, impartial, and objective with instruction. This is critical also is the teaching component. How do I go about getting in contact with Coggin. I actually had a parent this afternoon say the best high school pitching coach in the Valley is Damien’s pitching coach. Is he the best employed pitching coach in the Valley? Gentlemen too every one of you I really do appreciate your sincere help and giving back to my son just a young local kid trying to get better in game he loves more everyday.

dad said,
kh here,didnt know you where going to pay for the lessons,
i was going to do it for free .i really dont have alot of down time,
dave would be great,hes good .there another local here in la verne with a pitching mound in his back yard and he play pro ball and went to fullerton,
but if you want me to give you a local big guy i do respect its,
its chad clark ,he went to glendora ,then drafted high, turned it down went on to usc then on to the pros.i would take him over coggins only because ive seen what he can do with young kids,they play for my winter team,yesterday he brought out two hs kids and w throw then in and they did fine we won and it was the championship game,plus chad closed out the game he was throwing 92 to 93 yesterday.if you want his number call me 626 253 5986,good luck,i put my cell out there because i really dig helping young players and there parents ,see there boy ripe the ball or so guys,lifes so short with are glory years with our sons .god bless you

Heres a link to an article on the world of verbals that includes comments by Coach Schiano from Rutgers and recruiters.

http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/01/post_3.html

Im trying to post it again because for some unknown reason it was censored the first time around.

Stubborn, you apparently didnt read the title of the article which is “In the fickle world of college football recruiting, the only sure thing is a letter of intent.” Let me say it againTHE ONLY SURE THING IS A LETTER OF INTENT. And the article is about the rising number of decommittments. And apparently you missed the part about how North Carolina pulled the verbal out from under Malcolm Bush. And what about this quote: “The earlier you have a verbal commitment,” Callahan said, “the greater chance there is for there to be a change in that commitment.” Hmmseems that your reading skills are a little deficient so Ill say it again, there is a direct correlation between early verbals and a kid never attending that college.

CoChargerFan

The term overdrafted relates to a propect that was paid to much money and tanked in the end. One good year and the blue crew set him packin.

The pitching coach at Damien is Kevin Gross! Ever here of him?

Just in case anyone forgot, congrats to Ty and family!!

kh…I didn’t say that I clocked him at 96 but, instead, that’s what someone told me he was throwing again. If you clocked him at 90 tops than there’s the truth. But, 90 mph is still pretty good velocity…how was the rest of his stuff?

KH – that was an attempt at subtle sarcasm. What should have been a blog full of congrats and nothing else turned into typical nonsense from parents who think they know more the next parent. I just want to congrat Ty and his family and say that I am sure they put thought into this decision and know the risks associated with it and we should not pretend to know what is best for Ty and his family.

http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/fastapps/

Here’s a link for the college junk mail aficiandos who want to throw it all away. It’s a reasoned, well balanced view of the landscape reflective of the country’s shrinking dollar. COCF maybe some of those colleges you throw away have a need for a student just like your son, and are willing to pay handsomely for the honor of educating your son for next to nothing. Which would be nice I’m sure.

My son would have never known about Swathmore, Hamilton, Colgate, ect if they didn’t first reach out to him based on his PSATs. The point to the junk mail is every school has a need and they are being more aggressive in their efforts to grab a kid’s attention and by extension, the parent’s as well, to fill that need, whatever it may be.

There are outstanding schools all over the country who are situated in areas with devastating economic times so they are forced to increase their out of state applicants/admits and under represented segments of their student body to reflect the new world we live in.

Maybe verbals are nothing more than an advance on a relationship that college coaches seek to make with young talent. The France family, having earned that distinction, deserve to be respected in their choice to start a relationship based on their understanding of the issues at hand. Is it a marketing ploy for other recruits? I’m not sure that’s a bad thing. Is it a hedge bet? Probably. The point is NOT EVERYONE GETS THAT HONOR…SO HOW IS IT WORTH LESS THAN NOT EARNING THAT DISTINCTION?

COCF you say you’re a realist. Fair enough. But allow that your real world view has changed from the time me and you went to college to the one our kids will encounter. Open up your mind a crack and enjoy the light that might shine through.

Here’s a question for you, all things being equal if two applications are in front of you and both kids have 4.8 GPAs, great community service work, great essays and such which applicant do you take? The one from Loyola or the one from CO? Seeing as a 4.4 at either school would have been equally earned, right?

NEWS Flash

Tiffany never touched 96,95,94,93 on a consistent bases in his life. Ask Tommy and look up the scouting reports.

The arm is beat and thats why is ending up on a last ditch effort.. Teach, now that a joke in itself. Gross forgot more than Tiffany is goin to know! Laughable!

Thank is dumb daddy for his problems.

The warden disagreed and tried to prove his point with a calculator.Happily for Mr Alsop, Torbay council waived the fee and apologised. It said: The civil enforcement officer is new.A traffic warden was caught ticketing innocent motorists – because he couldnt tell the time.

This kind of environment in kitchen spreads positive vibes everywhere in the house. But having this kind of kitchen is not an easy thing for a common man.