Damien hoops fans criticized on P.E. blog, but we should be criticizing them, lets chant, “over-drama, over-drama, over-drama.”

Eisenhower fans and administrators lash out at Damien’s fans in the Press Enterprise blog, complaining the “The Pit,” is rude and obnoxious.

From the P.E. Blog: “Damien had an organized cheering section in white shirts and they all faced the (back) wall when the Eisenhower team was introduced,” said retired Ike teacher Nick Vallentine, 71. “I thought it was just rude. One of their cheers later in the game sounded like they were saying ‘shut the hell up’ after our cheerleaders said ‘we can’t hear you.’ This doesn’t seem very Christian-like, much less very sportsmanlike.”

Vallentine and his wife Claudia were mortified, the P.E. wrote. Rialto Unified School District board member Mike Ridgway agrees with Vallentine.
“Damien had a nice, large cheering section in white shirts, but when the Eisenhower players were introduced, they turned their back on them and some of their crowd booed,” Ridgway said. “I don’t think that’s what we’re looking for in high school athletics.”

Robledo: Why is this so shocking? Mortifed? Are you kidding me. I’m mortified that they’re mortified over this. At one point in this article a coach talked about banning the chant, “air ball” because it was detrimental to a players’ psyche. I nearly lost my breath laughing so hard, really? Detrimental? Pretty soon you won’t be allowed to cheer at all. As for this turning the back thing, go to a UCLA basketball game sometime, they hold up newspapers when the opposing teams are introduced, a way of saying, “we don’t care.” Glendora has done this too. Damien turning their backs during introductions is the same type of thing, innocent and fun. You can say the same things about the APU-Biola rivalry, they’re edgy fans too, and it’s all in a good spirited fun. These people out east need to lighten up. I have been to several Glendora and Damien basketball games, and their fans are the best, they create the type of atmosphere we need to see more of in high school sports. I will take that every day of the week over the mostly empty gyms with student sections and cheerleaders that sit on their cell phones and text all game long. Damien, I got your back on this one.

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  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Oh my goodness. What cakes!

  • Lets Go

    Damien better get that cheer leader section at the Baseball games. They looked horrible against REV!

    Wow, Leyva needs to pay more attention to fundamentals than the grounds…

  • LA Insider

    Freddy,

    I have to respectfully disagree with you here brother. I think there is a line between “innocent and fun” and blatantly disrespectful. IMHO Damien overstepped that line.

    I have no problem with booing, that’s part of the game. I have no problem with heckling even, that’s building thick skin. But to turn your back when the other team is being introduced? Really? To tell the cheerleaders to “shut the hell up” during their chants? Come on. If that really happened it needs to be addressed by the Damien admin and it must be discouraged. It’s disrespectful and Christian school or not, it can’t be acceptable when we’re talking about KIDS!

    HS Sports are about growing into young men/women and having fun. But this type of activity is counter to both those things. Being a adult means respecting others. Have fun, but not at the expense of other people.

  • FredJ

    LA Insider, this is a sport where I hear coaches foul-mouthing officials all game long, you want to start some place, start there.

  • Nothing new

    Fred,

    This is NOT the first time Damien has been discussed for their out of control fans and
    disrespectful behavior.This is in all sports at Damien.It’s shameful behavior.

  • FredJ

    I’ve heard far more disrespectful parents/fans over the years than students…In this particular case, what Eisenhower people are complaining about is ridiculous.

  • >>>

    Heckling players is ok, but turning your back on players during intros is not? – that is some mixed up system of right and wrong.

  • >>>

    Heckling players is ok, but turning your back on players during intros is not? – that is some mixed up system of right and wrong.

  • >>>

    Heckling players is ok, but turning your back on players during intros is not? – that is some mixed up system of right and wrong.

  • LA Insider

    I agree! I’m not condoning that behavior either! But does that make the students’ actions okay? Should a school turn a blind eye to disrespectful behavior by their students because their coach is chipping at the refs?

    Come on man, don’t let your loyalty to the SGV keep you from saying what should be said…Damien kids went too far. Boo, taunt, have funny cheers, but don’t degrade and openly attempt to humiliate the opposition. We don’t, and shouldn’t value that!

    Freddy, recently you posted a story about a HS coach who runs it up on his opponents. I was thrilled to see that Rick Reilly BLASTED that a$$hole for his actions. Now I don’t put this situation in the same category as beating someone by 140pts, but it’s the same basic idea. It’s not necessary and shouldn’t be condoned.

  • FredJ

    You’re over-reacting, what is the difference between turning your backs during introductions, and what I’ve seen UCLA, Glendora, Damien and others do for years, which is open a newspaper during player introductions of other teams, it’s the same thing. You’re having fun by not acknowledging the other team during intro’s…don’t make it more than it is…the Reilly piece was different, that was a coach intent on running up the scores to no end.

  • LA Insider

    >>> (whatever that is)

    Yes! I believe that heckling, oddly enough, is something that shows a level of respect. You heckle the best player and tell him his hair is ugly or his sister is hot. It’s like “yo Momma” jokes with your friends…it’s a level of ass-backwards respect that exists in sports.

    Ask anyone who had played in the trenches in a football game. There is constant trash talking going on. “I’m gonna kick yo ass boi!” “Better get used to being down there cause I’m gonna be on top of you all night!” Think of the new snickers commercial where the guy tells his buddy that he’s “playing like Betty White”. That’s heckling, that’s trash talking. THAT’S PART OF SPORTS!

    But turning your back on the opposition is like refusing to shaking hands after a match. It oversteps the acceptable level of “fun” banter during a game.

    Let me ask you a question. You ever been mad at this country of ours? You ever bad mouth the president or the government? I’m sure the answer is yes. Now answer this…you ever turn your back on the flag during and National Anthem? I sure hope not. Because that takes it to a whole new level. Same concept here. Heckling is supposed to be fun. Turning your back during introductions is saying, “I have no respect for you”.

    Big difference.

  • damien senior

    I am a senior at damien the pit is where my best memories have been. What do you expect a bunch of seniors to do after they have been at school from 8-1230. we are not saying “shut the hell up” its “sit down shut up.” The pit is something that we take pride in and, as seniors have to set the bar high so that the incoming freshman know what is all about. We love when are noise makes an effect to the way the other team plays there game. Coach dunn even has an announcement after every game won were he notices that the crowd played a role in the outcome of a game. In my four years I think we had the greatest effect on the don lugo and university game. We also for the first time began to ride on guy especially hard. We know that we cant effect the derrick browns of the world but, we know we can affect their second option.
    trust me it gets far worse for the players when they are in bounding a ball right in front of us. it would be things my mother wouldnt be proud of but, hey shes not there so let them have it.
    dont be shocked if we all wear white tees behind the backstop when we are hitting

  • Really

    Eisenhower is a mostly black school and they are complaining about a mostly white school’s behavior. If it was another mostly black school doing what Damien’s fans did to them, it would be a moot point and they wouldn’t even be talking or offended about it. I went to Damien in the late seventies when “THE PIT” was started, the students today are mellow and polite compared to back then.

  • Nothing new

    Fred,

    Damien fans are appalling! bloggers have been complaining about them for years! Damien parents response; Your jealous of us? Really!? excuses, excuses, excuses! To add insult to injury, their a christian school. It needs to stop.

  • Really?

    It’s bully mob mentality! One on one those mouths are so big are they?

  • damien senior

    honestly do you think the Vatican (administration and donors) are going to do anything about it. No they arent, if they did they wouldnt have school start at 9 after the hoover game.
    Eisenhower should be ashamed that we had more students then they had as a total crowd. You put the game in the middle of no where and we still draw bigger crowds. The hoover game is another perfect example of the passion we have to our basketball team.
    are we complaining about what was said by your parents and teachers. no were we take our loss. Verner or Varner was a beast and we realize that.
    Eisenhower you guys are lucky we didnt chant “we have futures.” Whats the percentage of seniors going to college or whats your graduation rate? cant be that good. we maybe have a like 5 people that are joining the military and of the 10-15 people going to sac about half are there to be a fire fighter. other than that everyone is going to a 4 year school.

  • LA Insider

    Freddy,

    You’re probably right. I probably am over-reacting. I’ve never seen a Damien basketball game. I have been to a Damien football game I have to say that their student section is the best I’ve ever seen.

    But I’m just bothered by the idea that they would turn their backs on the opponent. I get it, I really do. I understand WHY they do it. I just don’t think it should be condoned at the HS level. College, Pros, that’s a different story. But this is HS. We’re supposed to celebrate courageous acts of sportsmanship, not blatant acts of disrespect. That’s all I’m saying.

  • Grow up Brat

    honestly do you think the Vatican (administration and donors) are going to do anything about it. No they arent,

    **Wow little punk**

    Eisenhower you guys are lucky we didnt chant “we have futures.” Whats the percentage of seniors going to college or whats your graduation rate? cant be that good. we maybe have a like 5 people that are joining the military and of the 10-15 people going to sac about half are there to be a fire fighter. other than that everyone is going to a 4 year school.

    **Yea, Fred keep encouraging this behavior by the little “brats” from Damien WOW!**

  • ……

    shut up and roll with it

  • damien senior

    damien senior
    do you think that we only show up for big games. We dont save it all up for eisenhower. Chino and dbar get it just as bad

  • FredJ

    I don’t endorse what commenters say in here, especially the latest comments from the Damien student. My comments were in direction relation to the P.E.’s blog and what Eisenhower folks were complaining about. In this particular case, it’s a big over-reaction when it comes to turning your backs as I’ve explained.

  • damien senior

    damien senior
    do you think that we only show up for big games. We dont save it all up for eisenhower. Chino and dbar get it just as bad

  • Gesh

    Ike is complaining about Damien and they won, so nobody from Damien can cry, their jealous of us! It must have been really bad to complain after a win, I’m talking really bad! Damien get it together. God Bless.

  • glendora alumni

    Im not sure why this as become that big of a deal. Our student section chanted butts and weiners when we were in high school about 12 years ago. Its all harmless fun.

  • http://myspace.com/tbaggisthecoolestkidever tnuts

    this is stupid. the pit will never die and people are just mad we get in their heads a little bit. baseballs fine too. we’ll bounce right back after that loss to rev

    and we were chanting “sit down shut up”

  • Spartan

    -There is no harm in what Damien’s Pit said or did. Obviously the correction to “shut the hell up” was necessary because that never occurred, especially since the word “hell” (never used) evokes such a strong negative connotation. If it was used I could understand how some people would be offended but I personally would not take it negatively since it is a GAME.

    -It is important to draw the line between fan and athlete. If an athlete did that than I believe it is disrespectful, it is between the two athletes. But fans on the other hand play by different rules. They are there to have fun and likewise compete with the other teams fans by being the most loud and obnoxious. The Damien fans were not cussing at the other crowd. They were being the most obnoxious.

    -I believe Eisenhower’s complaining originates from their own lack of a youthful crowd. There relatively small student section WAS yelling back although there chants were immediately overshadowed by Damien’s larger crowds ability to be louder. If they had a similar size crowd I have no doubt they would have been just as obnoxious. AND I have no problem with that, I encourage it!

    -LA Insider, you say that “turning your back” is ok in college or professional sports for fans. You fail to see that high school students are COLLEGE and Professional sports fans. Turning your back at a high school game is not detrimental to the development of a young adults ethics, especially WHEN IT IS ALL DONE IN FUN-at a GAME nevertheless.

    -Obnoxious fans are revered in all sports and the schools lucky enough to have them. I leave you with this link to a Cornell hockey game and a Michigan hockey game, as an example of what all true sports fans aspire to participate in. ( It is much worse than anything the Spartans did in their pit)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVkVL9wQ7Io
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Vf14QGPbI

  • Spartan Student

    When I first read the other article I thought WTF this is stupid.
    ONE: we wear white shirts to pretty much EVERY game. theyre starting their own freakin drama accusing us of being racist.
    TWO: fred i couldnt agree more. glendora & us damien spartans are the ONLY SCHOOLS in the area that even care to cheering when it comes to basketball. unless playoffs start then suddenly all the other schools care.
    THREE: this years pit ya said “sit down shut up” not “shut the hell up”, and most of the time we would only say it if another school did a rude / annoying chant before us. eisenhower is making it a BIG DDEAL because they have no fans attend. literally their student section consisted of MAYYYYBE 25 GIRL STUDENTS at the most. thats it. and so ya obviously a crowd of maybe 200 damien spartans & lucys regents is going to intimidate them!

  • Damien sit down and shut up you lost girls.

    All I ever hear from Damien are excuses for their gross behavior.

  • student.

    if this was a real problem with the players of any team including eisnehower, than why havent any of their players spoken up about this situation?

  • Hmmm

    200 damien spartans & lucys regents is going to intimidate them!

    Damien LOST you didn’t intimidate anyone. You got called out for your bad behavior that’s all no excuses Damien.

  • another 2010 senior

    every school would love to have half of our student section. not sure who said that wearing white meant that you were racist but, are home jerseys are white. If you have a angel hat on make you a blood. Does a dodger hat make you a crip???

  • Fools come from fools

    . They are there to have fun and likewise compete with the other teams fans by being the most loud and obnoxious. The Damien fans were not cussing at the other crowd. They were being the most obnoxious.

    Really?

    -I believe Eisenhower’s complaining originates from their own lack of a youthful crowd.

    WTH? Excuses

    If they had a similar size crowd I have no doubt they would have been just as obnoxious. AND I have no problem with that, I encourage it!

    Who encourages kids being obnoxious?

    Obnoxious fans are revered in all sports and the schools lucky enough to have them

    ? I don’t know what to say? Are you serious?

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    The Pit is the best rooting section in the Valley bar none. I’m talking football and hoops. Keep doing what you do.

  • review

    As a long time lv resident, it’s common knowledge the Spartans have played the elitist card for decades when it comes to fan behavior and athlete behavior. That should set off plenty of response…truth is everyone knows it.
    Just read some of the response from the students in this blog, they know it.
    However, I do agree with Fred in that the IKE games, behavior seemed pretty tame, especially compared to some of the local games.
    It always boils down to leadership or in this case administration, to date they have not stepped in, so the behavior is validated or encouraged.

  • D-High Parent

    As a Damien parent, I read this as Ike was embarrased for their low attendance, and it’s really a lot about nothing. Gees, they won the game – what’s their problem? I understand if they thought the boys were yelling “hell” – but now you know they weren’t, so drop it. And if this was such a HUGE deal, why are we just hearing about it now?
    What I was appauled about was the comments made by IKE students as Damien parents and students were leaving the game. Intimidating, insulting and threatening comments were said right in our faces – not across a basketball court. How’s that for class, Ike?
    The Pit is a huge part of the Damien tradition. I love it as a parent! To see those guys get excited and cheer on their fellow brothers – it is great – you don’t get that at many other schools… not for every game like Damien does.
    This needs to end – did we scream and yell? Yes. Get used to it.

  • joshua lamascus

    the damien fans get a lot of crap from other schools saying that they are gay because they attend an all boys school. where are the administrations of those schools? i am a damien student that attends every game and there are teachers standing around the pit at all times making sure that they are under control so dont bash on the administration

    and dont say that damien is disrespectful. at the damien vs. eisenhower game, one of the eisenhower players went down hard and the whole time that he was on thee ground, all of the damien fans were silent! they also applauded him once he got up and walked off…someone tell me how we are disrespectful…

    i think a better word for us is enthusiastic and proud of going to damien.

  • Edward R. Murrow

    NEWS FLASH !!!

    Local reporter hitches wagon to new front running team.

    NEWS AT 11 !!!

  • ike mob

    As a 3 year varsity lettermen in baseball from Eisenhower..As a recent graduate(09′)that although I do see it as kinda disrespectful in a way for the damien fans to act that way toward our school and fans, to be honest, its just a freaking game. I mean it happens all the time. You cant really blame Damien for being into their school and into the game. I think we should just suck it up. Its balony and childish. Both teams had teriffic seasons, and it shouldnt even matter anyway. Besides Our school shouldnt be talking bout respect, because to be quite honest, we hardly have respect either. I think im with robledo on this one. As much as i love my alma mater, Eisenhower, this is truly stupid.

  • Spartan Student

    Whoever wrote :
    Damien sit down and shut up you lost girls. said:
    All I ever hear from Damien are excuses for their gross behavior.

    -one this isnt an excuse on why we freaking lost! & gross behavior really?! i want you to seriously tell us all that Eisenhower fans are NOT as bad as damien fans. seriously come on now. ive witnessed eisenhower students coming up to my friends face instigating to start a fight, EVEN WHEN THEY WON. you need serious psychological help if you think we just nag and complain for “gross” behavior. GROSS MY ASS!
    && SECONDLY whoever write this:
    Hmmm said:
    200 damien spartans & lucys regents is going to intimidate them!
    Damien LOST you didn’t intimidate anyone. You got called out for your bad behavior that’s all no excuses Damien.

    -ya i want you to seriously compare the size of the eisenhower fans to the damien / lucys fans that night! seriously we probably had eisenhower students outnumbered 5 to 1 or maybe even higher! and im not saying our lack of “intimidation” lost us the game. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME. eisenhower won, ok anyone on the planet can accept that. but whats really pissing me off is everyone giving us crap for our spirited “Pit.” we all know , FOR A FACT, if eisenhower had just as many fans as us that night, that they would be JUST AS rowdy, JUST AS loud, etc. etc. so stop trying to get YOUR feelings hurt that we were louder than you that night, AND JUST BE HAPPY THAT YOU BEAT US AGAIN , AND MAYBE BE GRATEFUL YOU WON ANOTHER CIF FREAKIN CHAMPIONSHIP! goshhh && good luck in the state championship to southern california’s #1 ranked team….OOO WAIT! X]

  • Spartan Student

    Here is a line STRAIGHT FROM AN EISENHOWER STUDENT on the blog that bashes Damien.

    proud 2 b an Ike fan:
    they was down rite disrespectfal during the game. they was also reallly racist cuz they was all wearing white shirts and we r a pridominately african american scool. They was definetly yellin “shut tha hell up” when we says ‘we cant hear u”. I cant belive their teachers let them chant that bad stuff at us durin the game.

    SO OBVIOUSLY THEY THINK we are racist because of our white outs….they obviously have never been to one of our home games!

  • Scott Fisch

    The Pit. What memories? I am a member of the Damien High School of 1979. The pit was strong then . Nothing wrong with it. In fact, I would love to see more enthusiasm at high school sporting events. Maybe the students can drown out the negativity the parents feed into it. I am the announcer at South Hills home football games. When I first started 20+ years ago, I actually had parents ask me to tell the students to sit down. Can you believe it? After all, this was their high school football game. I would love to see the yelling and enthusiasm continue from one high school to another. I have seen enough high school administrations tell their fans to quiet down, don’t talk to the other school and support your own team. This has gotten to the point where many students don’t even come anymore. Damien, keep it up and be proud. Stay positive, loud and supportive!!!

  • and you guys thought wearing a white tee is racist

    John, I am shocked IKE fans are this mad over this Damien students when our Redlands High Students were chanting “we can’t see you” to the mostly African American Eisenhower students in the last regular season game at Redlands, even I was discusted to be related to Redlands and yet, Eisenhower didn’t get upset or anything to that.

    this was from the i.e blog.

  • King Stud

    I have read some stupid things before but I think this one takes the cake. Getting on Damien fans for turning their backs on the players? Considering how these administrators are acting I think the fans should have turned to them and dropped the old BA!!

    This is not even close to racism. It always seems people love to use the race card when it’s suits their purpose. One of the Damien fans pointed out they wear white shirts to all their games. What’s even more ironic is this whining is coming from the winning team!

    I also get a kick out of these people in schools administration who always seem to have their nose in the air and it’s not just at this school. A lot of these people don’t have a clue about sports or fans being enthusiastic.

    Memo to Rialto Unified School District board member Mike Ridgway. Hey Mike, look around your community. Rialto and Fontana both have a lot more problems than this petty jealousy of the support of the Spartan fans. You would be lucky if your school was supported like these fans seem to do. Stop acting like an elitist and applaud these fans for number one driving out to your community to support their team and number two for not wearing bullet proof vest to the game to protect themselves. Now that would be offensive!!

  • WWJD

    what is so difficult in saying you meant no harm and apologize for the misunderstanding? simple.

  • Sparty Spartan

    All of the haters that are criticizing “The Pit” need to “sit down and shut up” … And all of you parents that talk crap about Damien just wish that the students at the school that your son or daughter go to had a student section like us…. And don’t try to belittle us and call us brats and other insults because we could care less what you say about us. yeah im talking about you “grow up brat”

  • Ike ignorance

    watch by the end of this sharpton and jackson will be leading one of those ncaacp marches down to the corner of bonita and damien. because wearing a white means you’re aryian. if you’re gonna pull the race card pull it on rev for chanting “we cant see you”

  • SGV

    http://www.city-data.com/school/eisenhower-senior-high-ca.html

    The Rialto Unified School District and Eisenhower should probably take a look at this. They should probably concentrate more on educating their students instead of worrying about the PIT. But I do have a question. If the Pit has started the chant, “We’re going to college”, would that have been wrong too? Because according to the data listed above, they would have been chanting an accurate statement.

    And for the student that implied that Damien was somehow being racist by wearing white shirts. He or she should look at this data too because I’m more then positive that they fall into the category of students that can’t pass the California High School Exit Exam.

  • spartansss

    this is an actual quote from an ike student in another blog regarding this topic

    “they was down rite disrespectfal during the game. they was also reallly racist cuz they was all wearing white shirts and we r a pridominately african american scool. They was definetly yellin “shut tha hell up” when we says ‘we cant hear u”. I cant belive their teachers let them chant that bad stuff at us durin the game.”

    are you kidding me? maybe yyou retired teachers that are complaining should worry less about our fans and more about the english that you are teaching. learn proper english

  • This is Great

    A tradition that was started when I was at Damien is alive and well. All these whiners have only made the “PIT” even stronger for next year. Go Damien!! Class of ’81.

  • patrick

    Thats exactly why Damien should be playing the likes of Santa Margarita, Loyola, Notre Dame, Bishop Amat…Lets see how far your jeering and chanting gets you then!!..lmao

  • College games

    College basketball student sections are loud, brutal and fun. So the Damien student fans are just getting ready because………………..WE’RE GOING TO COLLEGE!!!

  • Yo

    Everyone needs to get a life. Why is everyone over reacting about this. They should be over reacting about the state cuts for the school the next couple years.

  • The man’s 71 for crying out loud

    A 71 year old man and his wife made a comment and wrote a letter. The IKE AD made an official request to have the matter reviewed by cIF.

    And now Damien student have compounded the problem by coming across as though some took away their cars keys. IKE beat you on the court where it matters most. Damien was beat fair and square and in fact had the better team both years. Had a better team than Hoover and lost fair and square.

    So why would Damien students come after the level of education of IKE students and berate a 71 year old man who has a different standard of class and sportsmanship than The Pit. Get over yourselves everyone.

    That’s some one’s grandfather. I’m sure your grandfathers say things like that all the time. Being told to calm down is an constant routine between The PIt and school officials, as it should be. That’s what makes The PIt fun, dangerous and “our” advantage, as it should be.

    Why would any Damien student over react and continue this less than positive behavior. Hey if The PIt didn’t shock someone it’s a Bad Night and we’d all miss the giggles parents get when they hear you guys test the waters of fun.

    Maybe because most Damien students enjoy the benefits and privileges of being higher up the food chain they forget how hurtful some of those comments are if percieved incorrectly. Turning your back is what it is, up for debate on the class meter.

    Ian Johnson spoke of Damien students’ racial slurs that they thought were funny jokes yet still sting for him so many years after. No one from Damien will deny Ian Johnson is an extraordinary individual so let’s not pretend Damien is perfect when it not.

  • whew

    Whew, I’m glad Negros (using US 2010 Census Form language) never use racial slurs.

  • gross

    Fools come from fools said:

    . They are there to have fun and likewise compete with the other teams fans by being the most loud and obnoxious. The Damien fans were not cussing at the other crowd. They were being the most obnoxious.

    Really?

    -I believe Eisenhower’s complaining originates from their own lack of a youthful crowd.

    WTH? Excuses

    If they had a similar size crowd I have no doubt they would have been just as obnoxious. AND I have no problem with that, I encourage it!

    Who encourages kids being obnoxious?

    Obnoxious fans are revered in all sports and the schools lucky enough to have them

    ? I don’t know what to say? Are you serious?

  • Where are the yoots

    Where were the Eisenhower young folks? Do their parents know? noo. Do the teachers know? nooo. Are they out on the streets playing bang bang with each other and keeping Rialto’s finest busy, probably?????? I think it’s great that Damien’s (and St. Lucy’s too) students support their teams as well as they do. Hey Eisenhower administrators, don’t be so jealous and hateful.

  • sherlock

    to Damien senior thanks for honesty and keep having fun. The kids can handle it, its just the parents that can not because they think it hurts little lebron//larry ability to perform . Well that s the whole point, and it s safe wholesome fun that adds to the intensity of the game otherwise it would be just another no nothing game. U want stepford fans go to china or cuba or Russia. Until then this is the land of the free and home of the brave. Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me, remember that phrase, try teaching that to your kids. Thats what I was taught and it helped me perform under pressure. And as a parent I want my kid to be able to perform with pressure.

    If you asked the players from Eisenhower I bet it fired them up to play harder and perform at a high level. What you really should be doing is thanking the cheer section rather than berating them. They just created an environment that allowed the players to deal with adversity and win no less.

    Thanks to the students that cheer their team on a school night where many do not.

  • You have got to be kidding

    Seriously people? You are concerned over a spirited crowed at a championship game, when in truth you need to worry about the cuts that are happening across the states education system along with the absolutley horrible perfomance that students are giving in the classroom. Parents rather than whining because you are worried that little Joeys feelings will be hurt by the crowd, try worrying about little Joey passing his classes and not being arrested. I have seen the boys of Damien. They are spirited, energetic, and passionate about the teams they have. They are young men (and women that are at the two sister schools) who are going places in life and having some fun along the way in high school, as they should be. You need to be less concerned over the “turning the backs” and more concerned over trying to get your students the education that Damien has. Keep it up Spartans! We are proud of you!

  • Stop Please!

    Why does Damien continue to argue this matter. A 71 year old made a complaint and in turn Spartan backers have made comments about IKE’s community on levels that border on stupidity. Why the gang references? Why the education references? Why all this negativity when all that happened is a retired teacher had a different opinion of what a private school’s behavior should be. Take it as a compliment.

    Has anyone heard any IKE fans complain on either blog..really?

  • damien senior

    had a different opinion of what a private school’s behavior should be.

    So I guess you expect us to be better. You can say we play our “elitist” card but I guess your the one that’s dealing the cards. And by expecting more from us because we are damien. are you expecting less of them because they are IKE.
    I’d like to say thank you to whoever is the one who said we’re having fun because when it all boils down it is all about having fun. I’m not sure why we are getting all this heat because the cameron crazies are celebrated.
    As a pit we usually hold on to the “sit down shut up” we save for things that really need it. The only reason why we said “sit down shut up” is because IKE’s cheerleaders held a big sign saying REPEAT. I think that derves a “sit down shut up” how about you?

  • just askin’

    Actually … “REPEAT” was a pretty accurate statement now. wasn’t it? Maybe instead of telling them to “sit down and shut up” the Damien fans should have been spending their time cheering their own players on to preventing that from happening. What do you think?

  • D-HIGH sports fan 2010

    All I remember is when Damien lost and “the pit” was leaving the few students they had were cursing,doing those dumb eagle chants, and saying get out of here. Talk about being disrespectful, that’s what is disrespectful not what Damien did during the game. And what we did after the game in response to the eagle fans chanting was the right thing to do, we just walked away and ignored it. We could have started something but we didn’t.

  • D-HIGH sports fan 2010

    All I remember is when Damien lost and “the pit” was leaving the few students they had were cursing,doing those dumb eagle chants, and saying get out of here. Talk about being disrespectful, that’s what is disrespectful not what Damien did during the game. And what we did after the game in response to the eagle fans chanting was the right thing to do, we just walked away and ignored it. We could have started something but we didn’t.

  • D-HIGH sports fan 2010

    All I remember is when Damien lost and “the pit” was leaving the few students they had were cursing,doing those dumb eagle chants, and saying get out of here. Talk about being disrespectful, that’s what is disrespectful not what Damien did during the game. And what we did after the game in response to the eagle fans chanting was the right thing to do, we just walked away and ignored it. We could have started something but we didn’t.

  • slchick

    I attended the Damien vs. Eisenhower game, and did not see anything at all that the Damien boys should not have said. In fact, I graduated from St. Lucy’s in 1999, and the “Pit” has pretty much always been the same. If we are speaking about how to treat other people, can we please focus in on the Eisenhower head coach? I mean, seriously. Is this guy psychotic? I am very surprised that the school would allow someone to get an inch away from a player’s face, and cuss them out. And this just wasn’t one time. This was pretty much EVERY time a player came off of the court. Does the 71 year old guy condone this kind of behavior? This coach really needs to be fired.

  • damien pit

    its a high school basketball game. damien has kids who take crap from no one, especially crowds who call us “gay” or chant “brokeback mountain” to us. BUT we always keep it in good, clean fun. obviously, IKE’s crowd has never experienced a crowd like ours. come to anyh sierra league game against our school and i bet IKE will be sending the CIF a buttload of letters.

    p.s i don’t get why they’re complaining. they BEAT US. get a life

    D-HIGH!!!!!!!

  • Holden Caulfield

    D-HIGH “we could have started something but we didn’t”……that’s laughable.

  • Holden Caulfield

    “Maybe that’s why I’m partly yellow. It’s no excuse though. It really isn’t. What you should be is not yellow at all. If you’re suppose to sock somebody in he jaw, and you sort of feel like doing it, you should do it. I’m just no good at it, though. I’d rather push a guy out a window or chop his head off with an ax than sock him in the jaw. I hate fist fights. I don’t mind getting hit so much- although I’m not crazy about it, naturally- but what scares me most in a fist fight is the guy’s face. I can’t stand looking at the other guy’s face, is my trouble. It woudn’t be so bad if we were both blindfolded or something. It’s a funny kind of yellowness, when you think about it, but it’s yellowness, all right. I’m not kidding myself.”

    D-HIGH “we could have started something but we didn’t”.

    That’s some kind of yellowness isn’t it ?

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