Tribskin Pick’em, your predictions and ours

Steve Ramirez and I will go head-to-head throughout the season.
Last Week: Robledo (14-3); Ramirez (11-6).

Last week: We both missed Covina over West Covina and Ganesha over Montclair, but I did call Glendora, Rowland, El Rancho and Santa Margarita, while Steve got me with Bonita over San Dimas. All in all, a pretty good week.
This week: I was foolish enough to think Amat had a pretty easy schedule, then Dominguez pulled off the upset over Crespi. This is just what Amat needed, a real Pac-5 type game to get ready down the road, and a motivator game to gauge where they’re at. Looking forward to seeing Covina in person on Thursday after their mammoth comeback over West Covina. On Friday, watch Glendora roll over Monrovia and South Hills squeak out a win over Baldwin Park. San Dimas should bounce back at South El Monte, West Covina and Diamond Ranch will start 0-2 with losses to Damien and Venice, respectively. Charter Oak better take care of business, and a result I’m especially looking forward to is Diamond Bar-Wilson, giving the Brahmas a slight edge.

Coveritlive: Mike “The Cousin” Robledo did a super job with Amat-Garfield on Friday, we had commenters from several games posting scores, which is what it’s all about. No matter which game we decide, when we have participation throughout the Valley, everyone benefits. We hope more of you tech-savvy commenters can do the same as we continue week-to-week. We are sending Mike to Bishop Amat at Dominguez, and I will update him from my game at South Hills-Baldwin Park, as well as get updates from other games. Also, Thursday I will do a special Coveritlive from the District Field for Covina-Gladstone. Chino Hills Tom will send me updates from Ayala-Colony, but this also is a Q&A for those at home who want to ask questions or talk about Friday’s games while we’re live during the Covina game.


Thursday’s game
Covina vs. Gladstone at Covina District, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Covina); Ramirez (Covina)
La Puente at El Monte, 7 p.m. — Robledo – (La Puente); Ramirez (La Puente)
Colony at Ayala, 7 p.m. — Robledo — (Colony); Ramirez (Ayala)
Montclair at Pomona, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Pomona); Ramirez (Pomona)

Friday’s games
Arroyo at Temple City, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Arroyo); Ramirez (Arroyo)
Azusa at Bell Gardens, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Bell Gardens); Ramirez (Azusa)
Bishop Amat at Dominguez, 7 p.m. — Robledo (BAmat); Ramirez (Bishop Amat)
California at Rowland, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Rowland); Ramirez (Rowland)
Chino Hills at Santiago, 7 p.m. — Robledo (CHills); Ramirez (Chino Hills)
Claremont at Bonita, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Claremont); Ramirez (Claremont)
Diamond Bar at Wilson, 7 p.m. — Robledo (DBar); Ramirez (Wilson)
Diamond Ranch vs. Damien at Ganesha, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Damien); Ramirez (Damien)
Duarte vs. Blair at Muir, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Blair); Ramirez (Blair)
Garey at Nogales, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Nogales); Ramirez (Nogales)
Hoover at Sierra Vista, 7 p.m. — Robledo (SVista); Ramirez (Sierra Vista)
Keppel vs. Workman at La Puente, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Workman); Ramirez (Workman)
Los Altos at Bellflower, 7:30 p.m. — Robledo (Bellflower); Ramirez (Bellflower)
Monrovia vs. Glendora at Citrus College, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Glendora); Ramirez (Glendora)
Montebello at Rosemead, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Rosemead); Ramirez (Rosemead)
Mountain View at Bassett, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Bassett); Ramirez (Bassett)
San Dimas at South El Monte, 7 p.m. — Robledo (SDimas); Ramirez (San Dimas)
South Hills at Baldwin Park, 7 p.m. — Robledo (SHills); Ramirez (South Hills)
Troy at Walnut, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Walnut); Ramirez (Troy)
Gardena at Charter Oak, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Charter Oak); Ramirez (Charter Oak)
Venice at West Covina, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Venice); Ramirez (Venice)

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  • db

    Arroyo at Temple City, Arroyo
    Azusa at Bell Gardens, Bell Gardens
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez, Amat
    California at Rowland, Rowland)
    Chino Hills at Santiago,Chino Hills
    Claremont at Bonita, Bonita
    Diamond Bar at Wilson, Diamond Bar
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damienm, Damien
    Duarte vs. Blair, Blair
    Garey at Nogales, Nogales
    Hoover at Sierra Vista,Sierra Vista
    Keppel vs. Workman, Workman
    Los Altos at Bellflower, Bellflower
    Monrovia vs. Glendora, Glendoa
    Montclair at Pomona, Pomona
    Montebello at Rosemead,Rosemead
    Mountain View at Bassett, Basses
    San Dimas at South El Monte, San Dimas
    South Hills at Baldwin Park, South Hills
    Troy at Walnut, Troy
    Gardena at Charter Oak, Charter Oak
    Venice at West Covina, Venice

  • SGvalleyFan

    Arroyo wins big
    Bell Gardens up in High Scoring contest
    Dominguez wins Like Carson beat Mater Dei in a nail bitter, has very athletic players
    Rowland by a score
    Chino Hills by a few scores
    Bonita adds another Victory
    Wilson makes it close, But DB holds on for Victory
    Damien corrals Diamond Ranch
    Blair insults Duarte
    Nogales over Garey
    Hoover upsets Sierra Vista
    Workman Works Keppel
    Bellflower powers over once great Los Altos
    Monrovia nips Glendora
    Pomona pounds Montclair
    Rosemead is real Wins over Montebello
    View Sees Day-light Again and Again Surprises Skyhigh Bassett
    San Dimas revenges Loss
    Baldwin Park nips South Hills
    Troy handles Walnut
    CO cashes in on Gardena
    Venice is too much for West Covina

  • Mtown Will surprise you!

    Fred, Steve,

    You two are smoking some CRACK if you think Glendora is going to like you said “Roll over Monrovia” give me a break! You two will be eating your words come Saturday Morning… Mtown One Love!!!!!!

  • Mtown Will surprise you!

    Fred, Steve,

    You two are smoking some CRACK if you think Glendora is going to like you said “Roll over Monrovia” give me a break! You two will be eating your words come Saturday Morning… Mtown One Love!!!!!!

  • FredJ

    You mean the Monrovia BillyCats? I don’t think so

  • just sayin

    Hey M-TOWN,

    that’s what happens when you lose 9 times in the finals. You get no respect and your not feared.

    Quit begging, Fred and Steve are not going to change their minds. It’s set in stone and Glendora will roll over Mtown.

  • just sayin’

    SGvalleyFan – I know injuries are part of the game – but Mater Dei played without their best RB for the whole game and all-everything Victor Blackwell for the 2nd half. They’da made a difference

  • Observantcat

    Fred since your only reference to the Monrovia Wildcats is BillyCats, how about we give you a name? How about the DOS TONTOS MUY TONTOS aka DUMB & DUMBER! How can you seriously think that BA will Beat Dominguez and could barely score with that offense you claimed was so great against Garfield of all teams, a 5-6 team last year who lost all of their skill players last year. The Monrovia Glendora game will acutually at this point of the season will be pitting East true #1 vs. West true #1 (COVER BOY vs. COVER BOY) The game will come down to who’s underclassmen can come out and play. Anyone who know’s football knows that a great running QB has a better chance of helping his team in tough situations, thats NICK BUENO, Monrovia has a great quick Defense that will hit you in the mouth from the start and thats not good for CJ, his accuracy is already questionable at best, but put guys in his face and have him through into a cave of good DB’s is going to be a challenge. Fred I think you should really stick to you love fest for the Amat Lancers and reconsider why you feel they have a fighting chance at beating Dominguez, If they dont get their Shyt together this year you and the rest of your crew will be sitting in the stands or on the field reporting other games come playoff time. Take my word. The game of the Week should be Monrovia vs. Glendora. And as for the Billycats Great reporting you should stick with your day job, comedy is not in your blood.

  • Mtown will surprise you.

    FredJ,
    Billy Cats! Oh wow hilarious how long did it take you to come up with that one??? LOL your a D Bag!
    And “Just sayin” what the Eff does Monrovia loosing 9 times in the finals have to do with this team or this Saturday? All you chumps use the same line every time, be more creative… New year New Team!
    MTown One Love… Oh man I can’t wait to see the greatness that is Monrovia Wildcat Football!

  • JUSTWHATEVER

    Hey (MOTOWN),Fred could have used BILLYGOATS.

  • just sayin’

    I’ve lost respect for Observantcat’s football knowledge since he trumped Charter Oaks tight end as the next great quarterback. couldn’t win the job at Amat, couldn’t win the job at CO – yet OC had him as the 2nd coming of John Elway.

    GHS rolls over the Mildcats

  • Frank

    I have to agree that Monrovia will beat Glendora, a lot of kids there come out of the Duarte Hawks organization. Fred wont give them props because they are west of the 605, if you are on this blog enough you will see that teams west of 605 are not well respected.
    As for Amat I think they will have a tough game this week, but I am hoping for a victory. If Amat beats Dominguez all the haters will say Dominguez is not that good and got lucky with Crespi, if Amat looses they will say how bad Amat sucks, but they wont give credit to Dominguez for being a strong team.
    Azusa what else can you say get ready for a beat down, lucky for them they only have two tough games this year.
    Duarte Hope they have a better season.
    Arroyo Win
    Damien Win

  • Observantcat

    just sayin’ said:: Thropay had all the potential in the world to be someones QB and a great one at that. His road was chosen through his family and through those who though they knew what was best for him. It happens all the time. I was one who saw him play in his youth days and this kid was phemomenal. If you jump into unfamilliar waters anything can go wrong and did. As far as my football knowlege is concerned, I just speak what is real whether you like it or not. Now what’s your take on the BA Dominguez game?…..We can talk again on Sat. morning

  • Bulldog Fan

    Picks for the week

    Thursdays Games:
    Covina vs Gladstone-Covina
    La Puente vs El Monte-La Puente
    Colony vs Ayala-Colony

    Fridays Games:
    Arroyo vs Temple City-Arroyo
    Azusa vs Bell Gardens-Bell Gardens
    Bishop Amat vs Dominguez-Dominguez
    California vs Rowland-Rowland
    Chino Hills vs Santiago-Chino Hills
    Claremont vs Bonita-Bonita
    Diamond Bar vs Wilson-Diamond Bar
    Diamond Ranch vs Damien-Damien
    Duarte vs Blair-Blair
    Garey vs Nogales-Nogales
    Hoover vs Sierra Vista-Hoover
    Keppel vs Workman-Workman
    Los Altos vs Bellflower-Bellflower
    Monrovia vs Glendora-Glendora
    Montclair vs Pomona-Pomona
    Montebello vs Rosemead-Rosemead
    Mountain View vs Bassett-Bassett
    San Dimas vs South El Monte-San Dimas
    South Hills vs Baldwin Park- South Hills
    Troy vs Walnut-Walnut
    Gardena vs Charter Oak-Charter Oak
    Venice vs West Covina-Venice

    Still not sure what three other games that you and Steve pickes from last week ? .

  • Mtown For life

    Monrovia will beat Glendora!
    Fred/Aram change your pick by Thursday.
    Glendora upset CO, Now Monrovia will upset GHS

    Glendora deserves some respect by beating Charter Oak, But Monrovia is as good as CO this year. Jefferies is a bigger QB and absolutely D-1. But is he really better Than Bueno? He is bigger than bueno, but honestly if Bueno was 5’11 or 6’0, we would be talking BCS scholarship. You have no control over height. Jefferies has the nod there. Bueno is a far better athlete than jefferies, and despite what people may think, he has a arm! Bueno, has the ability to go all the way when he scrambles. He is going to cause problems Friday night.
    Charter Oak clearly got out coached last week. Here is why…
    First off, Kurt Scoby avg. 8 yrds a carry, and 1 td. They only gave it to him 8 times. He clearly was getting the yrds with ease and did not take too many shots. He was just shoe string tackles away from taking them all the way. You give him 15-20 carries he gets 150 yrds and 2-3 scores. Charter Oak puts rufus one on one with Glendora Dbs and he scored easily early. Charter oak never went back to that. Late in the fourth CO 6’3 wrs were catching every ball, but CO waited to long to be aggressive. We absolutely love Kurt Scoby in Monrovia! Duarte Hawks Nurtured that kid. Matter of fact, Friday night the SGV will be introduced to two of his ex junior all american star teammates from Duarte Hawks, Anthony Craft jr and George Frazier V…Eqaully as talented as Scooby, and will make a impact. Derrick johnson is a big bruiser. He will be able to get the same results as Scooby, but they will also have to worry about Bueno pulling it, and going all they way. Charter Oaks had problems on Defense. Their front seven did not get after it, Glendora will have a hard time blocking Ellis McCarthy, up front. CO did not have monster like that. RB/LB Derrick Johnson will put the hit on Jefferies. CO missed alot of Tackles on jefferies, but when those big paws of McCarthy get a hold of him, or Derrick Johnson hits him, he will think twice about running. Rufus and the charter oak secondary did not play well at all. There were times, where Glendora’s WRs got behind them. Monrovia has a fast and talented WRs and DB’s, Which avg 6ft tall. Outside of Rufus, CO WRs are possesion WRs. Monrovia has yac wrs with speed. Glendora’s secondary will be put to the test. They will be force to tackle and cover this week. If CO put pressure on there dbs they win the game. Monrovia, has more angles the threaten GHS. We will see what GHS will do when they have to face themselves in the mirror. They will have to face a mobile QB, But with more speed.

  • Aaron

    Thursday’s game
    Covina vs. Gladstone at Covina District, Covina
    La Puente at El Monte, I trust in Brandon Rohrer, ergo La Puente, but El Monte may win.
    Colony at Ayala, Colony

    Friday’s games
    Arroyo at Temple City, Arroyo
    Azusa at Bell Gardens, Push
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez, Dominguez…they just beat Crespi.
    California at Rowland, Cal High
    Chino Hills at Santiago, Chino Hills
    Claremont at Bonita, Pick against BoHi all season please. Bonita
    Diamond Bar at Wilson, Wilson
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damien at Ganesha, Damien
    Duarte vs. Blair at Muir, Blair…but Tip will win a few games this season.
    Garey at Nogales, Garey
    Hoover at Sierra Vista, Sierra Vista
    Keppel vs. Workman at La Puente, Workman…Keppel has nothing.
    Los Altos at Bellflower, Bellflower
    Monrovia vs. Glendora at Citrus College, Unlike Bueno Jeffries is not nails. Monrovia.
    Montclair at Pomona, Pomona
    Montebello at Rosemead, Rosemead
    Mountain View at Bassett, Bassett
    San Dimas at South El Monte, SD
    South Hills at Baldwin Park, South Hills
    Troy at Walnut, Troy
    Gardena at Charter Oak, Gardena
    Venice at West Covina, Venice

  • FredJ

    Prediction, Glendora 31, Monrovia 14

  • just sayin’

    let’s remember that the Crespi team Dominguez beat is starting over with a new coach, new system, and trying to replace a QB that was good enough to go to Oregon’s high-powered offense (Ducks scored 72 pts on Saturday) there leading RB, bets recievers, and linemen that left for Oregon and Iowa St

  • Observantcat

    Prediction Monrovia 31- Glendora 7
    Dominguez 34- Bishop Amat 7

    Second prediction much more foreseeable.

  • Gladiator

    Gladstone 21 covina 7. Nice win last week covina. Gladiators are comeing for you. We will show you no mercy in this dojo!

  • Fred you are picking off emotion Dude!

    Fred\Aram and the Rest of the SGV… I think you need to rethink your pick this week. You are way off on this one. Monrovia 28, Glendora 21.

    Jefferies is going to have to Throw for More than 75 yrds to beat Monrovia. Fred and Aram, what Did we See Friday night? Did we Really see a high powered offense, or did we see a team who capitalized off CO Mistakes and playing on a short field? Cmon, Rufus muffs a punt return right before the half on the 20? That lead to a score. Fumbles and a interception, on CO side of the field, which lead to at least 2 GHS Scores? Glendora made less mistakes, but you can’t say that Glendora has a high powered offense. Not one player on their team had over 100 yrds in any statistical category. If monrovia does not fumble or have turn overs, where do you think all these points are going to come from? I guess Monrovia is going to be playing with 7 players on the field. Remember, CO lost 2 all CiF Linebackers, 2 all Cif DBs in which all were leaders and made life real easy for Rufus. The kid has skills, size, and speed, but is he a difference maker? That ability to lead and make clutch plays comes from within. Scooby Replace last years star running back and looks to be the go to guy. We have to really question whether Rufus is a leader. Is he really that guy on the field that no one can handle? Friday night it looked like he did not step up. On defense side of the ball, he did not look like the shut down corner Brandon Golden was. Therefore CO was left without leadership or that go too guy. Rufus is that guy for them this year. He will have to step up and do better job, if CO is going to go anywhere this year. I am sure Farrar will be talking to him about that. On the other hand GHS Had Jefferies. Monrovia has Leadership on both sides with Bueno and Johnson. Bueno is that go to guy who can make it happen. Monrovia lost their all Cif LB and replaced him with a great 6’1 sophmore,. and Monrovia lost Their all Cif Db in jones, and replaced him with a 6ft kid who Monrovia insiders are saying will be better than jones for the next 3 years. Two kids who once again have the same Duarte hawks up bringing as the Charter oak stars from last year and Kurt”Scooby” which was on display last week. Jefferies can not beat monrovia by himself. Jefferies will not Rush for 94 yards against the Cats. They spend everyday chasing around a Jack Rabbit like bueno, who is a far better athlete and runner than Jefferies. I don’t think they are going to have a tough time keeping his running in Check. Did we see potent WRs from Glendora? Monrovia WRs lead by Jay Henderson are better than GHS wrs and DBs. Santiago passed for over 200 yrds last week. Its all going to come to who is more physical up front. Monrovias line is far bigger and better than last year. Can the Tarties block the wildcats up front? Will they be able to stop Ellis Mccarthy and company. Will Jeffereis be able to take the beastly hits from Derrick Johnson? We will see. CO Was not prepared for a duel threat QB. Mtown is. If Monrovia does not turn the ball over Tarties don’t score 28 points, I will give them 21 because its week one for Monrovia and Week two for them.

  • Panther Fan

    Thursday’s games
    Covina vs. Gladstone at Covina District, Covina
    La Puente at El Monte, El Monte
    Colony at Ayala, Ayala

    Friday’s games
    Arroyo at Temple City, Arroyo
    Azusa at Bell Gardens, Azusa
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez, Dominguez
    California at Rowland, California
    Chino Hills at Santiago, Chino Hills
    Claremont at Bonita, Claremont
    Diamond Bar at Wilson, Wilson
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damien, Diamond Ranch
    Duarte vs. Blair, Duarte
    Garey at Nogales, Garey
    Hoover at Sierra Vista, Sierra Vista
    Keppel vs. Workman, Workman
    Los Altos at Bellflower, Bellflower
    Monrovia vs. Glendora, Glendora.
    Montclair at Pomona, Pomona
    Montebello at Rosemead, Rosemead
    Mountain View at Bassett, Bassett
    San Dimas at South El Monte, San Dimas
    South Hills at Baldwin Park, South Hills
    Troy at Walnut, Troy
    Gardena at Charter Oak, Gardena
    Venice at West Covina, Venice

  • pb

    All the pressure is on Glendora. A Div II team should easily beat a Div XI team, right?

  • Montview league

    Gladiator! Wow that’s having confidence and I hope you do pull the upset.

  • FredJ

    You can’t compare Charter Oak and Monrovia, Charter Oak is coming off two Southeast titles, Monrovia is coming off a loss to San Dimas in the Mid-Valley title game, huge differences. Even though Monrovia went 13-1 last year, who of significance did they beat? I remember covering Monrovia during the Garrison years when they took on West Covina, South Hills and got beat pretty good. I have to see it first, Glendora proves it every year by beating stellar programs, like Chino Hills and El Dorado last year, not to mention a close 10-3 loss to Upland and a close loss in the playoffs to Rancho Cucamonga. You can’t compare that to Monrovia’s schedule, if Glendora played Monrovia’s schedule last year they would have gone 14-0, and if they competed in the Southeast, they might have been playing Charter Oak in the championship, not Diamond Ranch. For me, Monrovia has to prove it can play with the big boys, their preseason last year included a bad Arcadia followed by Duarte, Rosemead, San Dimas and La Salle, San Dimas of which was the only team with a winning record. I applaud Monrovia for stepping up in class and taking on Glendora and South Hills in a few weeks, but now lets see what happens when they actually play them. I love Monrovia, thought they had the best fans on the Westside when I was there, but lets keep it real.

  • C-TOWN

    Gladiator, u do realize you guys are “Gladstone” and not Azusa right…When is the last time u guys won a football game that matters? Not this week. C-TOWN big, by at least 28 pts.

  • BRAVETOWN

    B.P. WHAT A POOR SHOWING ON FRIDAY NIGHT. I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT DEBACLE… MAYBE HIGGINS NEEDS TO TAKE OVER AGAIN AND STOP LETTING CRUTCHFIELD RUN THE TEAM. THEY DIDNT LOOK LIKE THE BRAVES IM USED TO.. THIS WEEK SOUTH HILLS COMES OVER. HIGGINS THIS IS YOUR TEAM NOT CRUTCHFIELDS. SHOW THEM THE BP EVERYONE IS USED TO OR IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT. WHOS THE HEAD COACH ANYWAYS???

    GO BRAVES !!!!

  • Whoa

    Just saw DR on iBN.com. Whoooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! The score was 28-0 with 2:30 left in the FIRST QUARTER!!!!!! SM looked great and DR lookd pretty bad. THe score could have been 56-0 in the first half if SM didn’t back the dogs off of DR. Ouch!!!!!!

  • Whoa

    Just saw DR on iBN.com. Whoooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! The score was 28-0 with 2:30 left in the FIRST QUARTER!!!!!! SM looked great and DR lookd pretty bad. THe score could have been 56-0 in the first half if SM didn’t back the dogs off of DR. Ouch!!!!!!

  • Observantcat

    I hear you Fred, but this is a different time and place. FIrst get rid of the name calling, show more maturity in calling out a team based on your opinion. Second analize what the differences are before between the two teams before assume who has the athletic superiority. By the way the players dont make their schedule they just play whoever is out there. Third remember how many players were lost To Charter Oaks in the past few years and think of what an impact they would have had at Monrovia. Taking all of these thing into consideration you may not have such a lopsided opinion of what the Wildcats are capable of. You rant and rave about Bishop Amat 24/7 and to be quite honest I think they would be 50/50 on your eastside top 10 let alone the Pac 5. When you give up 80% of your offense in 1 player its hard to duplicate a game plan without him. So whether we win or loose I will be willing to bet that it will be one of Glendora’s toughest local challenges they will have to date.

  • Fred hold up…

    FredJ you somewhat have a point, but everyone knows that Over the years, there are many cases where teams in lower divisions have been better than teams is higher divisions. For Example… In 1997 Monrovia played Mira Costa and lost in finals. Mira Costa is now a Div 2 power house which has won multiple titles in Division 2. In 98 and 99 monrovia lost to Paso Robles, who is a great team in Div 4. Matter Fact all of the teams that were in that division are now in division 2-4. So historically divisions can be decieving. You are saying the Glendora almost won, does not mean that Monrovia could not have played the same teams close.
    I also Remeber in the Garrison years they beat Daimond Bar, which glendora lost to the same year and Muir when when they were Power in the years prior to losing to Charter oak and West Covinam. The years they lost west covina won a few titles. Garrison was always afraid to play up in the preseason. Even in the late 90′s and 00′s when he had the teams to win those games. Maddox is not afraid to do that now. Covina just beat West Covina. Big upset. Monrovia will upset Glendora.

  • No crying in football

    OBSERVANTCAT, there’s no crying in FOOTBALL! Man up and quit with being so sensitive. What has Fred said that is really that bad? I’ve seen lesser teams on here, who have been completely belittle and deal with it. So quit your moaning, because this is FOOTBALL!

    Thanks Fred for being honest, and obivilously THE TRUTH HURTS!

  • FredJ

    Observant, just having a little fun, I was answering a comment whose jab was far worse, don’t take it so seriously, every now and then I bark back. (And you called Steve and I dumb and dumber, so why are you upset with me for name-calling). BTW, not offended either, I can take jokes. Now, too your point, I’m not sure I get your question, either, I’m not questioning the talent produced in Monrovia or Duarte, I’m saying the Monrovia team as assembled has a lot to prove against a proven Glendora team coming off a win over Charter Oak, a two-time defending champ. Monrovia does not have a signature win like that on its resume in comparison to the teams Glendora has beaten in recent years. And for you to say Bishop Amat would be a so-so team in the Star-News area speaks of your bias, not mine, clearly Amat would be No. 1 in the Star-News, look at Aram’s blog, your West No. 1 is No. 5 in Aram’s all encompassing SGV and Whittier poll. As far as Monrovia being one of the toughest games on Glendora’s schedule, I can’t even say that..not with a schedule that includes Charter Oak, Anaheim Canyon, West Covina, Lynwood, Etiwanda, Los Osos, Upland and Rancho Cucamonga. Monrovia, and not being disrespectful, might be one of the easiest opponents on Glendora’ schedule, which lets you know the powerful teams that Glendora and Bishop Amat play week in and week out. Hard to compare isn’t it?

  • FredJ

    Whoever said Fred J. hold up, you’re right, those teams Monrovia played in the 90s playoffs were beasts. it was a much tougher division before they created the Mid-Valley, which is to my point. This Monrovia team has more to prove than the 90s teams that were challenged every year by great Mooney teams at Temple City, Maloney teams at San Marino, and a much tougher playoff road. I’m not saying Monrovia can’t win or won’t be in it, I’m saying there isn’t any proof I can turn too, or another game I can compare to justify it. THIS IS WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES. Like I’ve said, if Monrovia pulls it off, all hail to Monrovia. It would be bigger than any win they’ve had over the past few years, and it would quiet the eastside doubters.

  • Observantcat

    No Crying in football: Trust me these are’nt tears that are falling. Read what I have to say and take the band aid off of what Fred is saying. I just want equal journalism. I dont know who your team is but If they were called outside their official alma mater name year after year then you would probably have something to say too. This is just High School football and these kids go on to play in a much bigger arena after it’s all said and done. But give them credit while there here. Nuf said. save your napkins.

  • Observantcat

    No Crying in football: Trust me these are’nt tears that are falling. Read what I have to say and take the band aid off of what Fred is saying. I just want equal journalism. I dont know who your team is but If they were called outside their official alma mater name year after year then you would probably have something to say too. This is just High School football and these kids go on to play in a much bigger arena after it’s all said and done. But give them credit while there here. Nuf said. save your napkins.

  • Mtown Record book guy.

    Just for the Record, Momrovia all time
    is 1-1 vs Daimond bar when they were the Shyt in D2.

    Monrovia is also
    1-0 vs Etiwanda as well.

    Monrovia just needs to schedule the games. If they did they would be more prepared for tough CIF final games.

  • Mtown Record book guy.

    Just for the Record, Momrovia all time
    is 1-1 vs Daimond bar when they were the Shyt in D2.

    Monrovia is also
    1-0 vs Etiwanda as well.

    Monrovia just needs to schedule the games. If they did they would be more prepared for tough CIF final games.

  • Mtown Record book guy.

    Just for the Record, Momrovia all time
    is 1-1 vs Daimond bar when they were the Shyt in D2.

    Monrovia is also
    1-0 vs Etiwanda as well.

    Monrovia just needs to schedule the games. If they did they would be more prepared for tough CIF final games.

  • just sayin’

    Observant cat – you’re starting to babble. Amat lost Wagner in 07 and plugged in Gaise who got zero carries the year before , Lost Gaise’s 1100 yds in 08 and plugged in Anderson. Now they’ve lost Anderson. Same thing different year. Plenty of athletes to step in and go around.Would of loved to have Jay, but –

  • Fred J Hold up!

    Ok Fred Point well taken. I did not think about how bad the Rio Hondo is now. Monrovia should get out of that leauge, They dominate in football, and Baseball. They should think about replacing Hoover in the pacific league and baptize themselves into the southeastern Division. Win or lose it would be better for them. I just want monrovia to get the respect it deserves. The power is in the east valley right now, But with Wins against Glendora, and South hills, monrovia could silence the critics.

    However Bishop Amat, is the best program in sgv. Any team in the pac 5 gets my respect. That’s the best Division in America. Ive seen numerous pac 5 games. Thats big time ball. Dranch can witness to that.

  • I’ seen enough.

    MTOWN, OBSERVANCAN’T, AND ALL YOU OTHER MONROVIA BRIDESMAIDS! YOU CAN BRING ALL YOUR PAST RECORDS AND THEY DON’T MEAN SQUAT! YOUR LIKE THE BUFFALO BILLS OF THE NFL, THE TEAM THAT CAN’T QUITE WIN THE BIG ONE!

    AND LOOK HOW MUCH TOUGHER THESE LEAGUES ARE NOW, GOOD LUCK!

    THE PAST DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING, IF YOU NEVER WON THE BIG ONE! 2ND BEST MEANS YOU LOST, AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS THE AMERICAN WAY. SO YOU BUFFALO BILLS OF HIGH SCHOOL PLEASE PUT YOUR STATS AND RECORDS BACK ON THE SHELVES.

  • Anonymous

    YOU SPEAK PRETTY LOUD FOR A PERSON WHO HAS PROBABLY HAS’NT EVEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A CIF FINAL GAME. shhhhh! SHUT UP!

  • mtown

    @I’ve seen enough,
    Well its cool to take shots in the dark…where are you repping from? Just curious…

  • Gladiator

    Covina you do realize you are covina not charter oak. Bring it on thursday big c (covina not charter oak).

  • C-TOWN

    Gladiator, answer the question, when was the last time u guys won a game that matters? Too much for u guys this week, way too much.. Covina 49 – Gladiators 0

  • C’mon DR

    Diamond Ranch has a horrible line. Those Santa Margarita kids don’t look that fast and DR couldn’t contain them. DR better pick it up or everyone in the Hacienda League is going to light them up. LA may even give them a good game, that’s sad!

  • A Honest look at Bishop Amat in the SGV

    Fred and Arams rankings are fair.
    Bishop, Chino Hills and La Habra are ranked in LA times. However Monrovia and Glendora will battle friday for top 5 Honors. St Francis must do well against arcadia Because Monrovia and ST Francis share a common foe in Arcadia. That will play big in the rankings later on.

    Bishop Amat is no doubt a top notch program and the overall best in SGV. They are hard working, the have great Finacial support. They have won CIF Titles, they play top notch competition, they have great athletes every year.

    The Only thing that you can say about Bishop amat is they don’t represent anyone in the SGV in Particular. They can only represent SGV football collectively! They are the standard and posterchild for SGV Football. This is how you have to view them. They have no home town feel or tradition, no Home grown players. They recruit all of the areas top talent, and put them together to produce a great team. Some players go there after they have been developed and become proven players at other schools. I am not saying that this does not happen at other schools (like Charter Oak.) Alot of hard work happens at the youth football level. Alot of parents and coaches from specific communities, put time and work into developing local talent, which they hope will wind up at the local high school. When your best local player winds up a private school, it really hurts the local public school and all they good players who decide to stay locally at their respective high schools. When Bishop won the D1 title. Ralph brown,played for baldwin park youth football.BP would have love to have that guy. I am not moaning, about what they are doing over there at Bishop. Its Fair, Its legit. I just look at schools like Bishop, Mater Dei, Serra and St Francis through different eyes when comparing them to other schools in the SGV, who can’t hand pick their squad. When Public schools actually do beat these power house private schools, it means much more. You kind of expect Mater Dei, Oaks Christian(who should be in the Pac 5) or Bishop to be Dominate. On a bigger scale, I cheer for BA when they step outside the SGV, I want them to do well, bc it magnifies SGV Football. I love watching them take down Mater Dei. For all the idiots out there bishop plays big time games. No body in the SGV is Stepping into the pack 5 and winning a play off game. Ask Dranch, ask La Habra. Bishop can and has. It was 18,000 fans at the BA vs MD playoff game. Who in the SGV plays those kinds of games? But for you bishop Fans, Being rank #1 in the LA times or a national ranking, would be the moment to boast. I know people take shots at your program, but don’t go over board when you crap on there small schools ok. Your the big kid on the block, so you have bigger Fish to fry. Get on the LA times blog and take shots at Poly, Edison,etc..The SGV will back you up there. We must consider these things SGV…

  • A Honest look at Bishop Amat in the SGV

    Fred and Arams rankings are fair.
    Bishop, Chino Hills and La Habra are ranked in LA times. However Monrovia and Glendora will battle friday for top 5 Honors. St Francis must do well against arcadia Because Monrovia and ST Francis share a common foe in Arcadia. That will play big in the rankings later on.

    Bishop Amat is no doubt a top notch program and the overall best in SGV. They are hard working, the have great Finacial support. They have won CIF Titles, they play top notch competition, they have great athletes every year.

    The Only thing that you can say about Bishop amat is they don’t represent anyone in the SGV in Particular. They can only represent SGV football collectively! They are the standard and posterchild for SGV Football. This is how you have to view them. They have no home town feel or tradition, no Home grown players. They recruit all of the areas top talent, and put them together to produce a great team. Some players go there after they have been developed and become proven players at other schools. I am not saying that this does not happen at other schools (like Charter Oak.) Alot of hard work happens at the youth football level. Alot of parents and coaches from specific communities, put time and work into developing local talent, which they hope will wind up at the local high school. When your best local player winds up a private school, it really hurts the local public school and all they good players who decide to stay locally at their respective high schools. When Bishop won the D1 title. Ralph brown,played for baldwin park youth football.BP would have love to have that guy. I am not moaning, about what they are doing over there at Bishop. Its Fair, Its legit. I just look at schools like Bishop, Mater Dei, Serra and St Francis through different eyes when comparing them to other schools in the SGV, who can’t hand pick their squad. When Public schools actually do beat these power house private schools, it means much more. You kind of expect Mater Dei, Oaks Christian(who should be in the Pac 5) or Bishop to be Dominate. On a bigger scale, I cheer for BA when they step outside the SGV, I want them to do well, bc it magnifies SGV Football. I love watching them take down Mater Dei. For all the idiots out there bishop plays big time games. No body in the SGV is Stepping into the pack 5 and winning a play off game. Ask Dranch, ask La Habra. Bishop can and has. It was 18,000 fans at the BA vs MD playoff game. Who in the SGV plays those kinds of games? But for you bishop Fans, Being rank #1 in the LA times or a national ranking, would be the moment to boast. I know people take shots at your program, but don’t go over board when you crap on there small schools ok. Your the big kid on the block, so you have bigger Fish to fry. Get on the LA times blog and take shots at Poly, Edison,etc..The SGV will back you up there. We must consider these things SGV…

  • A Honest look at Bishop Amat in the SGV

    Fred and Arams rankings are fair.
    Bishop, Chino Hills and La Habra are ranked in LA times. However Monrovia and Glendora will battle friday for top 5 Honors. St Francis must do well against arcadia Because Monrovia and ST Francis share a common foe in Arcadia. That will play big in the rankings later on.

    Bishop Amat is no doubt a top notch program and the overall best in SGV. They are hard working, the have great Finacial support. They have won CIF Titles, they play top notch competition, they have great athletes every year.

    The Only thing that you can say about Bishop amat is they don’t represent anyone in the SGV in Particular. They can only represent SGV football collectively! They are the standard and posterchild for SGV Football. This is how you have to view them. They have no home town feel or tradition, no Home grown players. They recruit all of the areas top talent, and put them together to produce a great team. Some players go there after they have been developed and become proven players at other schools. I am not saying that this does not happen at other schools (like Charter Oak.) Alot of hard work happens at the youth football level. Alot of parents and coaches from specific communities, put time and work into developing local talent, which they hope will wind up at the local high school. When your best local player winds up a private school, it really hurts the local public school and all they good players who decide to stay locally at their respective high schools. When Bishop won the D1 title. Ralph brown,played for baldwin park youth football.BP would have love to have that guy. I am not moaning, about what they are doing over there at Bishop. Its Fair, Its legit. I just look at schools like Bishop, Mater Dei, Serra and St Francis through different eyes when comparing them to other schools in the SGV, who can’t hand pick their squad. When Public schools actually do beat these power house private schools, it means much more. You kind of expect Mater Dei, Oaks Christian(who should be in the Pac 5) or Bishop to be Dominate. On a bigger scale, I cheer for BA when they step outside the SGV, I want them to do well, bc it magnifies SGV Football. I love watching them take down Mater Dei. For all the idiots out there bishop plays big time games. No body in the SGV is Stepping into the pack 5 and winning a play off game. Ask Dranch, ask La Habra. Bishop can and has. It was 18,000 fans at the BA vs MD playoff game. Who in the SGV plays those kinds of games? But for you bishop Fans, Being rank #1 in the LA times or a national ranking, would be the moment to boast. I know people take shots at your program, but don’t go over board when you crap on there small schools ok. Your the big kid on the block, so you have bigger Fish to fry. Get on the LA times blog and take shots at Poly, Edison,etc..The SGV will back you up there. We must consider these things SGV…

  • OBservantcat

    Well said!

  • Gladiator

    C-town (not charter oak) you ask a question you could not answer yourself. I bet you asked the same question to azusa when c-town (not charter oak) got there donkey handed to them. Gladstone is better than azusa. Your scared, I know. I am scared for you.

  • Gladiator

    Rankings are just a beuty pagent.

  • Lance R

    If there is one thing the family of Bishop Amat does like to be called is “Bishop.” Bishop is someshere up North and we like to keep it that way. Please refer to us as Bishop Amat or just plain and simple Amat. As far as your take on Private vs Public recruiting and all that mumbo jumbo, it is true Amat does get quality players from elsewhere including surrounding areas like B.P.,Covina,Chino,Chino Hills,Rowland,Hacienda Heights, but it is also a parents and kids choice on where they want to play their HS football as well as get a pretty good education that one pays money for. No one twist anybodys arm to come to Amat they flock to us based on a quality learning and Traditional Sports programs especially Football. The arrival of Steve Hagerty has cemented Amat back to their winning ways, not to say championship just yet but a upswing nonetheless. Even in the Shameful Verti Years kids still came to Amat to play football. We did not hold a open house like Harry Welch did over at Santa Margarita to recruit kids in the open (to this day I still do not know what CIF quietly did about Harry Welch for this open Violation). We leave it as ones choice to come to Amat. Kids just do not leave their neighborhood schools to enroll at Amat they leave their neighborhood schools and tranfer to other public schools as well, hence all the challenges made about transfers aka So Hills before the start of the season. It would be the best for the SGV if all the talent came to Amat to play and CIF banners were automatic every year as Amat won championships every year not to mention bowl appearances. That is not happening so Bishop Amat is not above the rest of the SGV schools we are a school of choice and thats about it.

  • wow Bishop!

    CO put our more D1 players than bishop last year! But Bishop still good tho.

  • Bishop Bishop Bishop

    Who recruits more than Bishop? Why do starters transfer from bishop?

  • I need info

    If I send my kid ….
    Does bishop Give scholarships to star players? Or does everyone pay the tuition?

  • Amat Dude

    Outside people who are not part of the Amat community unfortunately, do not understand the Amat culture. We do not recruit period. Kids come to our school out of choice as someone else already stated. The school’s outstanding academic reputation and the school’s rich in sport tradition speaks volumes for coming to Amat. If we recruited kids, trust me our Offensive line would average 6’5″ 280 lbs across the board and our linebackers would be averaging 6’3″ 230 lbs. like Mater Dei, Oaks Christian, St. Bonaventure and most PAC5 schools. But they do not, our linebackers average 5’10″ 180 lbs…probably no bigger than the kids playing for Bassett High. The only difference is that they are very well coached and are very disciplined as one might come to expect from a Catholic school. 90% of our players come from Latin descent. And I would say that 80% come from blue collar families. That’s the demographics.

    You could almost argue that 80% of our football players come from the Hacienda Heights, La Puente, Baldwin Park, Covina and West Covina area. And that the majority of them do come from surrounding Catholic and Christian Schools. And about 20% come from outside of this area.

    We may not have the Hadens, McKays, Sciarra’s, Minors, Humas and McCutcheons of the world anymore, but who knows that could all change with a PAC5 crown.

  • blueandgoldstud

    A Honest look at Bishop Amat in the SGV said:
    ..They recruit all of the areas top talent, and put them together to produce a great team..When your best local player winds up a private school, it really hurts the local public school and all they good players who decide to stay locally at their respective high schools.

    What about all those players who play for Amat because they have gone to catholic school all of their lives? Does your comment also apply to kids in grade school whose parents elect to send them to a private school rather than public? For those that know my son, he never played tackle football before Amat, the only thing he played was AYSO soccer and last year he made 2nd team as a MLB in the Serra League as a junior. Based upon my first hand knowledge of most of the parents on the team, I will say at least 97% of the football players are NOT recruited and are continuing their catholic education. Are they all from the SGV, of course not, but those parents work near or in the SGV, shouldn’t they be considered extended members of the SGV?

    “Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.”
    Vince Lombardi

    This is what great coaches do with unknown talent, this is what I’ve seen accomplished with “average sized players” going against oversized opponents each year at Amat.

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

    Go big Blue!

  • Bishop Amat

    I need info said:
    If I send my kid ….
    Does bishop Give scholarships to star players? Or does everyone pay the tuition?

    September 7, 2010 5:05 PM
    Bishop Bishop Bishop said:
    Who recruits more than Bishop? Why do starters transfer from bishop?

    September 7, 2010 5:00 PM
    wow Bishop! said:
    CO put our more D1 players than bishop last year! But Bishop still good tho.

    You may want to check up North in Bishop for those answers.

    Amat is Amat Mighty Are The Men Wear The Blue And Gold

  • New York

    If Amat were at home, I would confidently say they will beat Dominguez. On the road, I have more concern, but we should all have learned to not bet against Hagerty’s Lancers. I think Amat grinds out a win this week.

    Fred,
    I wish you would have covered Monrovia during the good Garrison years, the years when we were building and kids were not transferring. The years when DiFiori was at Temple City. Those would have been the late 1990s with pre-season wins over Etiwanda, Diamond Bar (27-1 in those two years), Muir, etc. After 2001 (the year of some major transfers) they stopped improving and actually gradually sank (with some flashes of brilliance), those would include the years of blowout losses to Charter Oak and West Covina. Oh well.

    Billycats may be the case in the finals, but the preseasons leading up to those finals were all good…and we are talking about the preseason now! Maddox is in a building phase. He is focused and building a sustainable winning program. Things will continue to get better.

    Let’s set the stage for Monrovia vs. Glendora:

    Glendora: Upper division team. Strong tradition. Coming off big win. Stud QB. Big line. New running backs looking to prove themselves. Second game of season. Playing at home (Citrus) for second week in a row. Tired of hearing/reading Monrovia bloggers….lol

    Monrovia: Lots to prove. Many impact players returning to Citrus with a chip on their shoulders because that is the sight of their loss to SD in the finals. Bueno has the heart of a lion and is quick as a cat. Bubba, Ellis, and crew seeking payback at Citrus. Sick and Tired of ESGV bias.

    Glendora is definitely proven so far with a win over Charter Oak. Yes, CO graduated a lot but they always have a lot. Glendora is bigger but not faster than Monrovia. How important is having one game under their belt already?

    The real test will be Monrovia’s defensive line against Glendora’s offensive line and vice versa. Can McCarthy take this game over? Will Monrovia’s O-line give Bueno enough opportunity? Will they give Bubba enough room to get moving down hill? Will Monrovia’s defensive front stop the Glendora run game (including Jefferies runs) enough to allow the DB’s to play the pass?

    I have Monrovia by 3 points.

  • Bishop Amat

    Amat Dude is almost right.

    Its like 30% of their players are not latino. The normally find a few great black tail backs and LBs like lacey, and DB’s. And a white QB

    But this is not about race. Who cares! Bishop has a great formula. Go Bishop!!!

  • Don

    Honest Look,

    I read your post and agree with some of it but not all. Amat DOES in a way, rep the whole SGV. It is our only D1 program and as such gives most of the area fans a look into the higher levels of play they otherwise might ignore.

    I don’t agree that they actively recruit, that is, scout out youth talent systematically and offer them something in return for their play at Bishop Amat. There are loads of stories, and I’m sure in all of those anecdotal accounts, there may be some truth. We even had ‘Spoon and another of Coach DiFiori’s assistants telling my youngest how great he would look in Blue and Gold some years ago at a BB tourney, but I didn’t see that as recruiting. Nothing was offered, no promises were made, and they were right, he would have looked swell in an Amat uni.

    As a matter of fact, I suspect way more kids transfer OUT of B A after a year or two than IN, especially athletes who may find the commitment, cost, competition, and classwork more than they bargained for. Schools like South Hills and Los Altos have benefited bigtime over the years by adopting former Lancers looking for greener pastures. Charter Oak has taken a few in as well, but far more common in Chargerland is for out of area kids to sign on as freshmen and stick it out for four.

    And what’s wrong with that? Kids aren’t the property of their school district or their kiddie ball program, if parents think it’s in junior’s best interest to go to school across town, that’s their business. That said, I wouldn’t be willing to move a kid for anything less than a principle scholastic issue, but that’s just me. IMO, the kid’s family needs to do what they think best. I do wish that they would be a little more honest sometimes about WHY they make their choice.

  • Should have taken the advice

    To say Private or Public schools recruit is always a farce. COACHES recruit, ASSISTANT COACHES recrit, ALUMNI recruit…happens at all schools, ALL THE TIME.

    Spend any time around coaches and you know it’s true. Talk to most very solid player’s pranets and they will tell you stories. Don makes a great point, too bad he singled out the coaches, but he’s got a point.

    Unfortunately for Don’s kid he didn’t take those coaches advice or Evan would be a D1 signee. Talk about bad investment. Evan would have signed somehwere out of Amat. Take that to the bank Don as lots of Lancers have enjoyed a Signng Day photo op.

  • Duarte Hawks are in it to win it!

    Charter Oak wins last week and this conversation is a moot point. My only question is at the end of the year who will be the last team standing?

    Glendora will not qualify for the playoffs in the Baseline league.

    Monrovia will lose in the Finals to whoever they play week 14.

    Charter Oak I say they get to the second round and practice Thanksgiving morning but are two and done because no one in our Valley could win the Inland Division C.I.F. Championship including BISHOP AMAT!

    Athletes beat an athlete so Monrovia wins because in fact they are bigger, stronger, and faster than Glendora. Personally, in a few weeks Charter Oak will hit their stride and that would of been one hell of a game to witness Monrovia vs. Charter Oak.

  • The guru

    Gladiator??
    bro what are you talking about you guys couldnt shut down a not very good Northview team! A Northview team that has a very inaccurate QB! come on have sense! Covinas going to have almost the same kind of running back as Northview and A VERY good QB. If you think your better then Azusa you havent showed it when was the last time you beat them??? and yea so what Covina lost to them 2 years in a row thats the past this is now! Now if you couldnt handle Northview then you guys have a wake up call comming Thursday!

  • Walnut insider??

    Troy over walnut? Obviously people don’t know much about troy.
    Walnut insider= Smith/Wendland?

  • Don

    To should have,

    Interesting comments; I, nor Evan would have traded his four years for anything different. The Amat option was presented and dinner table conversation for six or seven months but in the end, he and his Mom and I, decided that Bonita was the best fit. John Knott and Eric Podley were great, and the education he received was nothing less than first rate.

    I didn’t mention the other Coach’s name because if I’m not mistaken, he is on Hag’s current staff, ‘Spoon is gone. Either way, my point was it was not recruiting because we were not in any way induced by the school or any of their staff in any way to decide to move. That of course is what recruiting is, the school offers you something, a slice of pizza, Kreugerrands, whatever. What we had, and what I think many confuse with recruiting, was a nice friendly chat on a hillside in Glendora.

    It might also be worthwhile to point out we never went into the prep sports thing as a means to an end. It was something he loved to do and as I have said before, sports is probably the single best social lubricant a kid can have to help ease through four tough years. It wasn’t until baseball his sophomore year we realized scholarships were a very real possibility. Had he not been hurt through much of his senior season in football, he might have walked away with a good offer anyway.

  • C-TOWN 2010

    Gladiator,
    You have another thing coming if you actually think you’re better than Azusa, let alone Covina.

  • ?????

    Walnut over Troy? Obviously you do not know much about walnut!!!

  • Best Picks

    Covina vs. Gladstone at Covina District, 7 p.m. — Covina, easy
    La Puente at El Monte, 7 p.m. — LaPeunte, In a close one
    Colony at Ayala, 7 p.m. — Ayala, Colony is down for the count
    Friday’s games
    Arroyo at Temple City, 7 p.m. — Arroyo, by 17 pts
    Azusa at Bell Gardens, 7 p.m. — BG by a mile
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez, 7 p.m. — Dominguez barely
    California at Rowland, 7 p.m. — Rowland by 14 pts
    Chino Hills at Santiago, 7 p.m. — Chino Hills…. by uhhh, alot
    Claremont at Bonita, 7 p.m. — Bonita by a little
    Diamond Bar at Wilson, 7 p.m. — Wilson in a close one
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damien at Ganesha, 7 p.m. — DRanch bounces back… maybe.
    Duarte vs. Blair at Muir, 7 p.m. — Blair, by 21
    Garey at Nogales, 7 p.m. — Nogales, by 10
    Hoover at Sierra Vista, 7 p.m. — S Vista by 14
    Keppel vs. Workman at La Puente, 7 p.m. — Workman routes
    Los Altos at Bellflower, 7:30 p.m. — RBell Flower by alot
    Monrovia vs. Glendora at Citrus College, 7 p.m. — Glendora easy
    Montclair at Pomona, 7 p.m. — Ptown rolls
    Montebello at Rosemead, 7 p.m. — Rosemeas in a close one
    Mountain View at Bassett, 7 p.m. — 0-0 tie
    San Dimas at South El Monte, 7 p.m. — SD by 17
    South Hills at Baldwin Park, 7 p.m. — I’m going BP in a close one
    Troy at Walnut, 7 p.m. — Walnut I guess
    Gardena at Charter Oak, 7 p.m. — Charter oak by a few TDs
    Venice at West Covina, 7 p.m. — Venice by 20

  • Anonymous

    Best Picks: Stay far away from Vegas. And dont spend your kids lunch money on any of your picks. Ludacris

  • shfan

    Hey Fred. Where did the other three games come from when you picked the games? I only counted 14 games from your previous post when you and Steve picked the games.

  • Just the Truth

    Thursday’s game
    Covina vs. Gladstone – Covina (duh)
    La Puente at El Monte – La Puente
    Colony at Ayala – Colony

    Friday’s games
    Arroyo at Temple City – Arroyo
    Azusa at Bell Gardens – Azusa
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez – Bishop Amat California at Rowland – Rowland
    Chino Hills at Santiago – Santiago
    Claremont at Bonita – Bonita
    Diamond Bar at Wilson – Diamond Bar
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damien – Damien
    Duarte vs. Blair at Muir – Blair
    Garey at Nogales – Nogales
    Hoover at Sierra Vista – Hoover
    Keppel vs. Workman – Workman
    Los Altos at Bellflower – Bellflower
    Monrovia vs. Glendora – Glendora (duh)
    Montclair at Pomona – Pomona
    Montebello at Rosemead – Montebello
    Mountain View at Bassett – Bassett
    San Dimas at South El Monte – San Dimas
    South Hills at Baldwin Park – South Hills (duh)
    Troy at Walnut – Walnut
    Gardena at Charter Oak – Gardena
    Venice at West Covina – Venice

  • Walnut Insider

    Not sure why everyone is so obsessed with trying to figure out who I am. I don’t see it happening to many others, if any.

    As far as Walnut/Troy go, I think Walnut will pull this one out. I have Walnut going right around .500. There were a couple of games last week that have me re-thinking that, but I will stick with .500 until I see a game situation from them, not a scrimmage.

    And as for me being Smith or Wendland, I don’t know much about Smith. I know he was a varsity coach for Borowski while he was the head coach and that’s about it. And I think Wendland was also a Borowski coach, although I think he might have coached for Coach Person as well.

    I think I might know more about Wendland’s older brother who played during Patricio’s time. That’s when Walnut had some big boys at the school. He was a really solid defensive end and an average TE. He had more of an impact on the team than the younger Wendland did too, I am pretty sure he was around during Acosta’s time as QB, although I might be wrong. The younger Wendland was average on both sides of the ball. Nothing special on defense like his brother that’s for sure.

    So no, I am not Smith or Wendland, but I do appreciate the trip down memory lane. It does remind me of a time when Walnut was respected in the valley. We might not have been the best, but we were respectable. Now, people laugh at us. I hope that we can turn it around again one day.

  • COChargerfan

    The QB position comes with more intangibles than any other position. Thropay is a physical specimen with boatloads of talent. So just sayin, Rio is clearly more physically talented than Jerry Mac but when all is said and done it doesnt appear that hes going to be a better QB.

    And people, stop picking on Rufus because the reality is that GH didnt throw or run the ball his way and they were doubling him as a receiver, so how was he supposed to make a difference? Hes a very talented kid who is going to have some mediocre games because some coaches are going to decide that theyre going to make someone else beat them.

    GHs lines are average in both size and skill so I just dont see them having any advantage in that department. My thought is the Monrovia vs. GH game comes down to M-Towns linebackers because that is the key to not only stopping but discouraging Jeffries from running the ball. After one game, thats the big difference I saw between COs current vs. past years team. Last year, those LBs would put the hurt on the QB and RB and by the 3rd quarter they were doneand then came the blitzes. GH has no defense to speak about so the Cats will scoreIm predicting at least 28 points. So, if Monrovia has the LBs to make GH a one dimensional passing team, then the Cats will win a close one.

    While it doesnt mean squat about this years team, M-Town in the 1970s went undefeated in league play from 1971-1975 and we played some very good programs in preseason like Arcadia, Venice and Morningside. So, M-Town has a long history of taking on some big programs but has suffered from ups and downs that have affected their skill level and, hence, the teams that theyve scheduled. The question is whether the current team is on enough of an up tick to beat GH? And wasnt last years SD vs. Cats final a turnover marred performance that was played in the rain on a rain soaked fieldconditions that favored SDs wing-T offense? No rain predicted vs. GH so the Cats quickness will be on display.

    Expect CO to bounce back big against Gardena and the new field looks awesome.

  • JD

    Hey mtown for life, I predict that we wont here from u again this year after Glendora gives u guys a Trashing!

  • C-TOWN

    Gladiator, Azusa beat us 2 yrs in a row. I am not calling them out. They are a good football team, tough kids and well coached. Now u girls on the other hand are nowhere near what Azusa is. U guys are “gladstone”. We will welcome u the no huddle, hope u guys conditioned this week, dont get tired like WC..

  • SGV Athlete

    Covina vs. Gladstone-No Comment
    La Puente at El Monte-La Puente (tight one)
    Colony at Ayala-Ayala
    Arroyo at Temple City-Arroyo
    Azusa at Bell Gardens-Bell Gardens (home field advantage)
    Bishop Amat at Dominguez-AMAT (in a tight one)
    California at Rowland-Rowland
    Chino Hills at Santiago-Chino Hills
    Claremont at Bonita-BoHi (UPSET ALERT-BoHi is flying high)
    Diamond Bar at Wilson-Wilson
    Diamond Ranch vs. Damien-Damien (DR is DEFLATED after losing to a real football team)
    Duarte vs. Blair-Blair
    Garey at Nogales-Nogales
    Hoover at Sierra Vista-Sierra Vista
    Keppel vs. Workman-Workman
    Los Altos at Bellflower-Bellflower (LosAl was DESTROYED by El Rancho)
    Monrovia vs. Glendora-Glendora (but i really think its gonna be close)
    Montclair at Pomona-Pomona
    Montebello at Rosemead-Rosemead
    Mountain View at Bassett-Bassett (Battle for #34)
    San Dimas at South El Monte-San Dimas (maybe)
    South Hills at Baldwin Park-South Hills (i flipped a coin for this one)
    Troy at Walnut-Walnut
    Gardena at Charter Oak-Charter Choak
    Venice at West Covina-Venice (it would be WC if they would have beat Covina)

  • just askin’

    COChargerfan – you’re arguments on all threads aren’t consistent and that’s why others question your credibility. You just wrote:
    “And people, stop picking on Rufus because the reality is that GH didnt throw or run the ball his way and they were doubling him as a receiver, so how was he supposed to make a difference? Hes a very talented kid who is going to have some mediocre games because some coaches are going to decide that theyre going to make someone else beat them.”
    But on another thread you pointed to the freshman running back “owning” Glendora – thus proving the CO O-line dominated the D-line.
    Could it be that GHS just decided to let little Scooby-Doo “beat them”, knowing full well he couldn’t carry them all the way to victory?
    Taking away the opponents strength and making them go to the option you want – that’s what I call domination.

  • baby blue nutter

    Don’t worry too much Insider….I don’t give a crap who you are. I’m sure …uh…everyone…just wants to be sure you are getting your meds…since you are so damn depressing. I just want to be sure my car is safe in the parking lot.

    Anyway….predicting only on what I have seen first hand.

    DB -6 Over Wilson
    Nogales -13 Over Garey
    WesCo -4 Over Venice
    Walnut -10 Over Troy

    Lock it in…

  • COChargerfan

    just askin’…nice try at mixing up two, totally unrelated comments. The context of my comments on the line play came after GH honks ran their mouths off about how their lines dominated COthe stats and more importantly the actual game performance prove that this didnt happened.

    And Rufus had a 24 yard TD at the start of the game so GH then doubled him so CO did the smart thing by throwing the ball AT THEIR LEISURE to Thropay and Gilcrest…GH didn’t stop CO from passing (201 yards on 15 completions or 13.4 yards/catch)…just made passing to receivers other than Rufus the wise play. Heck, on their last possession with 3 1/2 minutes on the clock, CO scored in like 90 seconds with I’m guessing like 6 passing plays and GH knew they were passing…does that sound like GHs defense dominated?

    And “Scooby-Doo” had 64 yards on 8 carries (8 yards/carry) and a TD so how does that translate to GH stopping CO by making young mister Scoby beat them? So does putting up these stats sound like GH’s D-line dominated COs O-line, or vice-versa? Without the lost 4 possessions, Mr. Scoby gets another 8 touches and…well, you can do the math.

    It’s your mind that is mixed up and your hatred for CO at work and not me being inconsistent. And Im not seeking credibility and, instead, am just a fan with an opinion just like everyone else that comments on this or any other blog.

  • IE FB Fan

    Pomona game is on Thursday not Friday. At Pomona HS. Get there early. Place is a shoe box.

  • SGV For 30 Years

    Insider,

    I don’t think people at Walnut are loosing sleep wondering who you are. I think you are wrong about people laughing at Walnut. They have beaten some pretty good teams in the last couple of years. I think they are very well respected in the SGV. Here is their issue. The teams like Bassett, La Puente, Azusa, and Workman don’t want any part of Walnut. Walnut doesn’t want to play Amat, Charter Oak or South Hills because those schools don’t play by the same rules. So Walnut is pretty much stuck in the middle.

    I did see their scrimmage last week. They physically beat the hell out of Wilson. I saw where someone picked DB by 6 over Wilson. I think Walnut blows out Wilson by 4 TD’s in an actual game.

    Other observations around the valley. Covina needs another big win to really get my attention. They are usually solid, but i’m not drinking their kool-aid yet. I’m actually more interested to see how West Covina and Charter Oak bounce back. We will all get to see what kind of character those teams have. I think it’s all good. This is why we play the games on the field and not on paper.

    SGV430 Outtt

  • Walnut insider??

    Walnut insider…whaever you say dude. Dont forget about the Walnut teams in the early 2000′s. Finals in 02, playoffs in 03 and 04. I think that is more respectable. And stop saying “we”… you really have no part in the football progam at all. You bashed the kids and coaching staff all last year. You dont know half as much about the staff or the players as much as you put off.

    ????… You obviously dont know much about either team. Here’s a little bit about Troy, Very young, a running team, poor passing game, not big. D, plays soft coverage, small lb’s, tall DE’s…thats about it. As for walnut,They bring back a good number of starters. They have two studs in restrepo and collins who play both sides of the ball very well. Avery good, quick reciever. Depth at the rb spot. Oh yeah, and a 6-5, 220 lb reciever/saftey/de who is going to Washington next year, who by the way is a foot taller than Troy’s tallest corner. and he is the fastest dude on the feild. I guess i know a little. Trust me, i know more than you or the “insider” know put together.Get back to me friday night or saturday morning, either is fine for me.

  • FredJ

    Thanks for posting that, just checked with Pomona, they moved their game to thursday because of referee shortage, just like Ayala…

  • Hello

    Walnut Insider is Scott Greenberg.

  • AMAT 73

    COCF,
    Are you basing that Rio will not be as good or better than J Mac on one game ? Rio’s stats were not all that bad and his team did win. Some bad play calling which I am sure will be fixed by Friday but Rio did not do all that bad for his first varsity start.

  • FredJ

    An even more telling stat is the Lancers rushed for just 25 yards as a team. If they can’t run, especially against the big boys down the road, they will have problems. What I took from week zero is maybe they miss Jay Anderson more than they thought. He could always get you the tough first down on third and five…

  • COChargerfan

    I wasn’t at the game but read the reviews and saw the stats that Joe Amat put up and agree that Rio did well in his debut. And I didn’t say that Rio won’t be a good QB but it appears that he won’t be better than J Mac even though he is physically more gifted. That was my point. And the reasons why are that J Mac was a very good QB in his own right and had the intangibles of being a leader and good decision maker. Plus, Rio is even more dedicated to baseball than J Mac so that’s were his attention is going to be focused especially going into next year…heck, will he even return to play football his senior year when the scouts and college recruiters go after him for keeps starting this summer? Big if.

  • LancerFoLife

    Wow, why all the gloom and doom towards Amat? Amat will be just fine, it’s early in the year and we are replacing alot of really good seniors. Amat has untapped talent waiting in the wings and who knows, by mid season or seasons end the whole landscape of that team could be changed. I really doubt that the Lancers were tipping their hands Zero Week? This AMAT team is just getting started and by no means is this week a for sure win for my Lancers. Comp Dom Hills is a good football team and anyone who thinks diffenet should go back to playing bochie ball and leave the football to those who know football! The Lancers will definately have their hands full this Friday but I think we are going to come out victorious! Go Big Blue!

  • Just an observation, but…

    am I they only one getting sick and tired of hearing all CO bloggers and coaches tell us that “we won all the stats and dominated”… OK…but did you win or lose?!!! When they start giving points for outgainig your opponent then spout off. Damn your fans always have excuses…nut up and take the loss. If u don’t win this week…oh my!!

  • AMAT 73

    COCF,
    I see you are in mid season form . Can you loan me that crystal ball you have so I can fill out my football card for this week. Again you make all these assumptions based on one game. How can you say Rio does not have the intangibles of leadership and decision making needed at the position. This kid is dedicated to the program and wants a D-1 football championship on his high school resume . Now Fred is more on point with the running game. I think we will see the adjustments made this week to bring it up to snuff. Get the running game on track and you will see Rio in a different light. Also I have been reading your on going battle of stats with a few bloggers. What I find interesting is no support from fellow CO bloggers on that front. SGVFOOTBALL,CO Bro, COSteelcurtain ,and others what is your take on all the stats this and stats that battle being fought by COCF on the loss to Glendora. I do agree your stats were nice but you lost the TO battle and it cost CO . As for the LANCERS we have a tough battle coming up against Dominguez this week but seen as they only put up 14 points on Crespi maybe there is hope for us . I really don’t think it is as bleek as bloggers are making it out to be but then again we only won 23-0 . Like I wrote to another blogger sometimes even in winning you lose. I guess what the public wanted was a 70-0 college type score .

  • Lance R

    Just imagine when the Lancers do get Wallace Gonzales back, what a option for Rio that will be. To have Jay Anderson and Wallace out there with the rest of this existing group of players , now that was spelling deep into the playoffs and possibly a Championship appearance for this Lancer team. The real fix , because Jay Anderson is not coming back is, as you witnessed Last friday against Garfield, the O-Line. The O-Line is not very quick off the ball and the pass protection is, well lets just say so-so. This Amat team without Jay A. is still very much a competitor but it really needs to clean up the imperfections of that O-Line. The coaches could see this I am sure and the corrections will be made, after all you are protecting the Schools Baseball gem, and you better believe that if the Baseball gem is getting his helmet knocked off and getting flung to ground due to lack of execution on that o-line, Daddy will pull him his senior year. Remember this: Amat success depends on that O-Line, the rest will fall into place with or without J. Anderson. What Hagerty brought to Amat that Verti never had was Game speed and right now the Offensive line looks to have a partial of that game speed, they need to kick it up a notch if that running game is going to be successful, not to mention keeping Rio comfortable as well as daddy in the stands. It can be done…Go Big Blue!

  • COSteelCurtain

    AMAT 73

    I don’t make excuses or tell tales to justify anything. It was what it was. A CO self inflicted loss, but a loss nonetheless.

    Charter Oak Chargers Back to Back CIF Champions!

  • Updates please

    Lancers, what is the latest on Brock Booth and other transfers that got denied to play at Amat due to the So Hills cry babies.? Will Brock get to play this year or is his appeal still pending with CIF. Also what is the status of Julian Gener and the injury he sustain against Garfield? Will he be available for the Comp. Dom. Game?

  • Great Game

    Very curious to see how GHS’s DBs handle Bueno in “open space”. Bueno, from his highlights, is just and incredible talent. His vision and toughness remind me of another QB from years ago, Ron Cuccia. I know they’re differnt but Bueno is a three year stud.

    Another issue of interest is how betaing CO affect GHS. Still got to give Coach P credit for working with what he has and sharing athletes with other great coaches. Very nice place to play for sure.

    Monrovia vs Glendora is a great game.

  • AMAT 73

    COSteelCurtain,
    Excellent reply and actually the type I am looking for from a CO follower. It is what it is, a loss . In the long run with such a young team much like ours they will learn from their mistakes against Glendora and be the better for it . Good luck to CO this week against Gardena.

  • Walnut Insider

    I think the choice of words I used “laughed at” might have been a little strong. You are right the early 00′s was also a memorable time for the Walnut football program, but since that 04 season it has been disappointing.

    I don’t “bash” the coaches. Am I critical of them at times? Sure, mainly the scheduling. I felt they scheduled some really easy teams and it gave some of the players a bigger ego than they should have had. Other than that, the coaches do a fine job. They do the best they can with what they have. Is it O’Shields’ fault that a guy the size of Rhodes couldn’t dominate on the field? It is his fault that he had to replace an entire line last year? I still think the new offense is great and hopefully this year it will take off. As successful as Coach Person’s bunch offense was, Walnut just didn’t have the size upfront to run that anymore. If the line can give some time for the QB, the spread is a wonderful offense. I think Randy will be more successful in the backfield than Rhodes was.

    SGV430 brought up a great point about scheduling though. Maybe schools don’t want to schedule us and we had to go with an easier schedule the last two years. That certainly isn’t the case this year.

    I think it bothers people that I am critical of the players themselves.

    I hope Walnut can do better than .500, but looking at the teams we play and what we have it will be tough. You have to be realistic about it (and that’s not depression). Maybe we can get a few breaks this season, like Covina did, and make some noise in the new league.

  • Bishop Bishop Bishop

    Bishop is tough gritty team. Even with Anderson and gonzo. They don’t get past the quarterfinals. I mean would they beat a lakewood, or Servite or Edison or Poly? Chances they get to the second rd. Thats as far as they would go…

  • DRanchhhh

    We lose to a good SM team all of a sudden we are dead…LOL, I love it. I even seen someone say we had a horrible line. Keep shootin, just sit back and watch.

    KUDOS to Bonita over SD as was predicted, KUDOS to Covina over WC, Kudos to Glendora over a “non-stacked” CO team same to BA over “GARFIELD”…lol, SMH!!

    Looking forward to all games this week, Will be at the BA/Dom game. Lets go DONS!!

  • COChargerfan

    Amat 73, I’ve watched Rio play baseball since he was 8 years old and he’s always been extremely gifted at that sport. After his senior year, its a real possibility that this kid is going to be drafted and maybe in the top 3 or 4 rounds. So real soon hes going to have to make a choice between football and baseball so what makes you believe that hes going to pick football especially since he spent last summer not at football camps but playing baseball? Doesnt that say a lot about his priorities? I know that you havent forgotten Jay Anderson already and the Mier kid from Bonita who went in the first round a couple of years ago was a very good football player that would have had some D1 football looks but he quit playing after his junior yearso the writing is on the wall. So I dont have a crystal ball but just looking at the facts points to baseball and the pressure to drop football is going to start this coming summer from the college recruiters and professional scouts. All Im saying is what others said on previous threads over the summer and what Lance R actually said on this thread so shouldnt Amat brace themselves because no one thought Anderson would call it quits and isnt it living in denial if you dont think that theres a real possibility that Rio may do likewise? BTW, isnt Rio still going to play with the USA U16 Baseball Team in a few weeks? Anyhow, good luck against Dominguez. Im betting that your kids and Hags will find a way to win.

    And I’ve said from the start that GH won the game and even congratulated themso no excuses and scoreboard isnt even part of the discussion and, instead, my issue is with the blinder wearing GH honks who continue to say that GH’s lines and their QB out played their counterparts on CO, CO cant play with the big boys (like GH is a big boynow thats a real bag pipe dream), blah, blah, blah… other than turnovers, the stats prove that CO outplayed GH. Big Lou said as much and several outsiders that were at the game have blogged the same thing so its not like I’m the lone wolf. GH fan wants to talk smack about performance but then when the stats slap them silly they go scoreboard. So theres no excuses being made and Im just arguing (mostly with myself because some people are just poor listeners) that these are two entirely different animals.

  • SGV For 30 Years

    Insider:

    Here is my opinion on scheduling. In every other sport pre-season matters because your overall record is a factor in your play-off placement, and all you have to do is petition to get in. In football all that really matters is league play. You have to finish in the top 3 or 4 to make the play-offs. Walnut was 7-3 last year and didn’t make the play-offs. Bonita was 8-2 one year and didn’t make the play-offs. Diamond Ranch had a losing record the last 2 years but got healthy in league and went to the finals. So the scheduling question comes down to the coaches philosophy. Schedule a brutal pre-season and run the risk of injury (always a risk anyway)being over matched. Or do you schedule soft and not knowing how your team will respond to adversity. The best answer I can give is you try for balance. You want to put your team in a position where they can have success. We are talking about high school sports here. No one wants to lose every game, and you can’t win every game. As a coach I would want my players to be able to look back in 20 years and say remember when we scored that touchdown on the last play to beat …… or remember playing in that mud bowl against…. “Man those were good times”. I think sports is a micorcosom of real life and society.

    SGV430 Ouuttt!!!

  • just sayin’

    “other than turnovers, the stats prove….’ hey – guess what? Turnovers ARE a stat! It proves that CO was not very good at ball security – the most important thing. You can’t “outplay” someone without taking care of the most important thing – the ball! And if you;re going to give it away – you better take it away too – which CO was unable to do.
    I heard Skip Baseless making the same argument on 1st Take this AM on how the Vikings outplayed the Saints in last years NFC Championship. Maybe that’s who COChargerfan really is. Same attitude. LOL!

  • Lan C. Erbacker

    COchargerFan, Why don’t you try asking Jay Anderson how he feels about that decision right about now? And if anybody from the Lancers is going to think about going in the top five rounds, he better hit over .450, especially in the division that Amat plays baseball in…? Lancer Football, Go Big Blue!!!

  • AMAT 73

    COCF,
    Again as I said you are in mid season form . My question to you was how can you tell Rio doesn’t have the intangibles of leadership and decision making from one game. Whether he chooses to play baseball or football isn’t in the conversation and as usual you go off track when you have no actual answer for statements you make . JA is a seperate case altogether as he felt he need more polishing in baseball where maybe do to his size and weight he felt the future in football was not there and also need to focus on studies for the scholarship he is seeking , so that isn’t even close to the Rio situation because we all know he has all the tools needed in baseball and will have many offers . How do you know he does not have asperations to be the QB at SC and also play baseball . It’s been done . Is he going to play for team USA because I don’t know and I don’t think neither do you know. So now you go to reading walls for your information . Bottom line if he does forgo his senior year of football so be it but for now he is the QB of the BISHOP AMAT LANCERS and that is what he chose to be and has gone on record that he wants to lead us to a CIF championship .

  • just sayin’

    Lan C. Erbacker – Ruiz hit .528

  • COChargerfan

    just sayin’, I’m really sorry that you don’t understand.

    And Lan C. Erbacker, talk about eating your own young. Cut him some slack as he was only a Sophomore last year. Rio’s hitting numbers are coming SOON and I think he will hit over .400 with maybe 10 HR’s in his senior year. Do you realize that Mier only hit like .290 but was a 1st round pick? It’s about having the body and athleticism to project to the professional level and Rio has it…which is why he’s one of 40 kids IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY to make it to the trials for the USA National 16U Team.

    So Lancer fans, is Rio not heading to Texas to play baseball on Sept. 25th? Common sense says that he doesn’t just blow off this once in a lifetime opportunity especially after jumping through the hoops to make it on to the list of 40…and also to lose the chance to represent your country at the Pan Am games in October. It’s only a couple of weeks away so the decision has been made…so insiders, is he going or not?

  • Lan C. Erbacker

    No need to cut anybody any slack, I wasn’t putting him (Rio) down, I was merely stating the obvious…our league is NOT Div I and to impress you better be doing VERY well in the league we play in. Plain and Simple. Rio is a fine athlete and I wish him all the best, in whatever he does. I will be the first to come on here and bark for him if one of the blog nation clowns tries to say otherwise, so enough said. What you have to realize is that he is also a pretty good football player too and those college offers for football will soon be rolling in and this youngman may have an even togher decision on his hands because as far as I know, there is no “binding” agreement between Rio ans USC, right? Please correct me if I’m wrong. Go Big Blue!

  • COChargerfan

    Should refresh once in a while and I would have seen just sayin’s post…wow, .528 as a Sophomore. New prediction is .600 as a Senior with 18 HR’s…if teams don’t pitch around him.

    Rio doesn’t need high school stats as he’s playing on a bigger stage like the exposure that he’ll get on the USA National team…the pro scouts and colleges will all be there and watching how he does against the best of the best from around the world.

    I’ll take the lack of a response to my question as a yes that he’s going off to play baseball. Hey Freddie, can you use your sources to get a definitive answer?

    And Sophomores can’t sign letters of intent so there’s no binding agreement with USC. Besides, the first few days into the AD job Haden fired Coach Kreuter.

    I’m betting dollars to donuts that Rio winds up signing a pro baseball contract.

  • Rio Grande!!

    Rio is going to have to turn down that USA Baseball team try out. If he goes to that, and misses any lancer games, he can not come back as the lancer QB. No way, no how. There is no way his team could trust him as their leader. Besides he could be a D1 WR and maybe play in the NFL. There is no way he can gel with a struggling offense. It would be socially difficult to come back to school and face a hundred teammates, after walking out. Hopefully he decides not to for go that opportunity, and finish the commitment to what he started with his football team. I mean this Kid will have a chance to play in plenty of summer league baseball games. He will get to play in that underclassman All American game. He will get more than his share of exposure. He will get drafted in the first, second or third round. Besides Baseball is the hardest sport to make it in. He may not get drafted where everyone thinks he will. Then what? Its good to have options. If does not decide to come back for his senior year, then so be it. He is locked in for this year. You don’t quit in the middle of a season. People know he has the skills, its just making sure you hit a home run in character dept. I am sure he is a great kid. But if anyone is telling him to jepordize 80 other kids season, after committing to his team….I don’t know if thats a good idea.That kid brings in alot of money at the gates. Football pays for the baseball program in a sense. I don’t think the athletic dept would be too happy with him, if he pulls a stunt. Especially when you are a top ten team in the best football Division in America. If he balls out he could be the Gatorade student athlete of the year. That’s as much exposure as it get…Like that Mauer kid for the Minnesota Twins. Lets say he does leave the team…. would he have to leave the school.. to get away from all those lancer football junkies, who watch the season go down the tube ummm I don’t know Rio.

  • COChargerfan

    Exactly how does a chance to represent your country on the world stage translate to letting your high school football teamates down especially since the three games that he’ll miss are pre-season? I’ll say it again…YOUR COUNTRY!!!

    It is extremely selfish of Amat fans and Hags to not be encouraging, I take that back, insisting that he go. SELFISH.

  • Lance R

    Rio and Dad will do what Rio and Dad want to do. Amat will stick by their decision either way and Hags will deal with it. Rio is that special and they will bend the rules for him. No big deal if rio plays baseball during the football season, just a time for another Lancer to step up and play QB while he is gone. With the Coaching staff and the defense the Lancers have the team will not miss a beat with Rio gone. Rio comes back he may sit another game due to getting back into the groove of things. That second string QB is the one to benefit here as well should Rio decide to take a baseball vacation. I am sure The backup QB parents would love to see their kid at the helm while Rio is gone. Good thing all around. Lancers stick by Lancer and this is not that big of a issue.

  • just sayin’

    Observantcat – 0 fer 2 buddy. Take off those hater glasses or the Mildcat bias

  • 2-0 vs 0-2

    DRanchhhh – “let’s go DON’s” LMFAO!