The Top Ten Games you don’t get to see

We compiled a list of the top ten fantasy football games you won’t see this fall with predictions from Aram Tolegian and Fred J. Robledo …

1. Bishop Amat vs. Charter Oak — How long have we been asking about this? Prediction: Robledo (Amat); Tolegian (Charter Oak).
2. Monrovia vs. Muir – Would be fireworks and bragging rights for the the biggest WSGV game of the year. Predcition: Robledo (Muir), Tolegian (Monrovia)
3. Charter Oak vs. West Covina – Battle of former and current Southeast champions. Prediction: Robledo (Charter Oak), Tolegian (Charter Oak).
4. South Hills vs. Covina – This would finally make sense for the king of the District. Prediction: Robledo (South Hills), Tolegian (Covina).
5. Damien vs. Bonita – Why haven’t the La Verne schools squarred off? Prediction: Robledo (Damien), Tolegian (Damien)
6. Monrovia vs. West Covina – Why haven’t former coach and champions Maggiore and Maddox hooked up? Prediction: Robledo (West Covina), Tolegian (West Covina).
7. Baldwin Park vs. Sierra Vista - Was canceled after the bad blood, but the crowds were great and the city deserves it. Prediction: Robledo (Sierra Vista), Tolegian (Baldwin Park)
8. Azusa vs. Arroyo — Want to know who is best between Montview and Mission Valley Legue champions. Prediction: Robledo (Arroyo), Tolegian (Arroyo).
9. Chino Hills vs. Bishop Amat – Huskies might be only area team with a real shot. Prediction: Robledo (Bishop Amat), Tolegian (Bishop Amat).
10. Glendora vs. Damien - Use to be one of the great Sierra rivalries. Prediction: Robledo (Damien), Aram (Damien).

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  • JRAAF

    Covina Vs. Glendora

    These Seniors had epic battles back in JR All American. Conference champs Covina 2 Glendora 1

  • I like

    Fred how could you pick Muir over Monrovia. Lol come on. Muir has owen and Seymour. Monrovia has McCarthy, Ramirez, Williams, Frazier, Craft.

    Monrovia would be the underdogs against West Covina, but if Covina can get lucky and beat them. Monrovia would not need luck, it would be a close game, and I think Monrovia would be right there. We are a better team than them

  • I like

    Fred how could you pick Muir over Monrovia. Lol come on. Muir has owen and Seymour. Monrovia has McCarthy, Ramirez, Williams, Frazier, Craft.

    Monrovia would be the underdogs against West Covina, but if Covina can get lucky and beat them. Monrovia would not need luck, it would be a close game, and I think Monrovia would be right there. We are a better team than them

  • I like

    Fred how could you pick Muir over Monrovia. Lol come on. Muir has owen and Seymour. Monrovia has McCarthy, Ramirez, Williams, Frazier, Craft.

    Monrovia would be the underdogs against West Covina, but if Covina can get lucky and beat them. Monrovia would not need luck, it would be a close game, and I think Monrovia would be right there. We are a better team than them

  • FredJ

    Muir would intimidate them, the way they intimidated Charter Oak and nearly knocked off in that great 2009 first-round game. It was Charter Oak’s toughest game of the playoffs. Athlete for athlete, I’ve always liked Muir.

  • Unreal…

    Aram,

    Is your decision on ChOak over Amat with Ruiz in the line up or not?

    Without Ruiz, I can see a very close game with Charter Oak coming out on top but with Ruiz I see Amat controlling the game with the run. What good is ChOak’s offense if it can see the field?

    Go AMAT!!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2011/08/the-top-ten-gam.html paul

    while Muir has plenty of talent, i believe that Muir is too undisciplined to beat Monrovia, too many bad penalties against a good team

  • Mike Robledo

    this would’ve been a fun list to compile at end of last year!

    Monrovia vs West Covina (WC)
    Amat** vs Chino Hills (Amat)
    Amat** vs West Covina (Amat)

    ** if games were played prior to start of playoffs

  • Observantcat

    Thats how we know this is fake, Fred come on man. Muir needs to beat Arcadia first, and the word intimidated in not even in the Monrovia vocabulary. It would be the other way around.

  • FredJ

    Observant, it’s not out of the question, even with Bueno you lost to Glendora and San Dimas last year.

  • New York

    FredJ,
    Intimidated like they did Charter Oak? Lol. We are on the Westside as well, Fred. HA!

    Regarding West Covina, Monrovia is far better coniditioned, disciplined and plays with better fundamentals than any of the Monrovia teams to have played West Covina (win or lose) in the past. So who knows about underdog. Sure, we can look at comparative scores from last year and even at the end of this year. That is still difficult because of the system that West Covina runs and how different defenses respond to it. Bottom line, though, is that Monrovia-West Covina needs to happen again. I enjoyed seeing Coach Maggiorie at T Phillips after our title game last year. Good guy.

  • AZTEC PRIDE

    Fred did a little research and its a very reliable source. LOL You know the name Fred, Cal Preps has AZUSA winning 21, Arroyo 19 in 2010! 2011, this coming season they have Arroyo winning 22, AZUSA 21, and would be one great game to see! I say over all this isnt too bad of a projection and not too bad for a Montview Team. My opinion is, these two teams are very similar now, and they both have very good COACHES.

    The game I would love to see though, would be AZUSA vs. Glendora at Citrus College. Wow, this would make for a great cross town rival. Yes, yes I know Glendora would win, but to see that one time were AZUSA would win that would be great to see. This game would sell a lot of seats at Citrus and bring in some good revenue for both teams. If any of you have been to the AZUSA vs. Gladstone game you would know what Im talking about, they have Glendora police directing traffic that day!

    AZTEC PRIDE!

  • SaintsR4real

    Dreams do come true!!
    SMUDGEPOT 39!! SAN DIMAS VS BONITA @ CITRUS COLLEGE!!

    SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!!

    Southeast Division “runner up” team going down to a Mid-Valley team on Sept. 01!!

    Score??? San Dimas 31, Bonita 10, yes 31 to 10!!

    BIG CROWD, GOOD TIMES!!

  • Amat Bully

    i can’t believe Aram went with CO over Amat. Aram you finally seen both teams without your bleeding blue ways and chose the best team for who they are and not because Amat is your favorite. fred on the other half WHATEVER DUDE. but i do notice that CO is favored against every team.

    Observantcat:
    You really don’t know high school football. you said Muir needs to beat Arcadia first, well last year was Arcadia first time beating Muir in oh idk about 5 maybe 6 years or more. and the last time Muir played Monrovia monrovia squeaked by with a game winning 48 yard field goal in 99 with a 12-10 victory. do you remember that game? thats the game when Muir Qb showed up to the game in the 2nd quarter. But i would give monrovia the edge this year only because of discipline reasons but athlete for athlete is a deadlock between the two teams with only Mcarthy sticking out.

  • Amat Bully

    excuse the last post Muir did play Monrovia after that 99 game i think in 2000 at pcc they needed a neutral site to play at. i think Monrovia won but i do remember Monrovia QB and athlete d.martin transferring to muir the very next year. And i also take back saying that mccarthy would stick out Muir actually have 3 kids on this year team that has drawn more colleges than any kid on monrovia Seymour and Mccarthy is a deadlock then you have owens and then you have the junior talifare who also drawn interest from smu, new mexico state, and washington So Monrovia and Muir athlete for athlete is a deadlock with Monrovia a little more discipline gets the edge in a head to head game.

  • Amat Bully

    excuse the last post Muir did play Monrovia after that 99 game i think in 2000 at pcc they needed a neutral site to play at. i think Monrovia won but i do remember Monrovia QB and athlete d.martin transferring to muir the very next year. And i also take back saying that mccarthy would stick out Muir actually have 3 kids on this year team that has drawn more colleges than any kid on monrovia Seymour and Mccarthy is a deadlock then you have owens and then you have the junior talifare who also drawn interest from smu, new mexico state, and washington So Monrovia and Muir athlete for athlete is a deadlock with Monrovia a little more discipline gets the edge in a head to head game.

  • FredJ

    Amat Bully, that’s precisely my point, discipline goes out the window in an emotional game like this. Yes, Monrovia has a better team this season, but I like Muir in a rise-to-the occasion bragging rights game, look what they’ve done to PHS for two decades now. Whenever Muir is in a nothing-to-lose scenario, it brings out their best. I’m not sure how Monrovia would handle it with everyone expecting them to win. There’s a difference between the hunter and the hunted. I guess that’s why Monrovia folks feel like they can beat Amat, it would be a nothing-to-lose game for them, compared to a nothing-to-gain game for Amat. It’s a different mentality entirely.

  • Nait

    Naw fred, were not missing much this year with that #10 game.

  • FredJ

    Steve Ramirez correctly pointed out, my No. 9 game should have been La Habra-Bishop Amat instead of Chills-Amat … Not sure who I would have picked, that’s a game that needs to be played.

  • Games

    Monrovia vs Muir would be a great classic game. Neither School would be fearful of the other. As of Right now the edge would go to Monrovia, but Muir does have the capability to beat Monrovia. What has happened to both of these talent rich areas has been the lack of a “Program”. This has caused for both schools to lose valuable, irreplaceable athletes. The Examples for this have been Monrovia losing talent to Charter Oak, and Muir losing talent to Alemany and Rufus to CO. Their lose and these other programs gains have led to these other programs winning, and Muir and Monrovia losing. Monrovia has began to build a program, Keep their talent and it brought a CIF title. Muir has to find a way to rejuvenate its program, and get the parents to keep their kids local. I am not sure about how good or bad the Muir coach is, but They still have talent, and I am not sure why they are not winning. If this is done, these schools will be able to beat Bishop, West Co, IE schools. This game should be played, it would be good for both schools, and would sell out.

  • Games

    Monrovia vs Muir would be a great classic game. Neither School would be fearful of the other. As of Right now the edge would go to Monrovia, but Muir does have the capability to beat Monrovia. What has happened to both of these talent rich areas has been the lack of a “Program”. This has caused for both schools to lose valuable, irreplaceable athletes. The Examples for this have been Monrovia losing talent to Charter Oak, and Muir losing talent to Alemany and Rufus to CO. Their lose and these other programs gains have led to these other programs winning, and Muir and Monrovia losing. Monrovia has began to build a program, Keep their talent and it brought a CIF title. Muir has to find a way to rejuvenate its program, and get the parents to keep their kids local. I am not sure about how good or bad the Muir coach is, but They still have talent, and I am not sure why they are not winning. If this is done, these schools will be able to beat Bishop, West Co, IE schools. This game should be played, it would be good for both schools, and would sell out.

  • Observantcat

    Fred, I believe you have PHS and Monrovia Mixed up. As for the intimidation factor you would be talking about Pasadena High. There is a big difference. Monrovia could play the Old Duarte teams and have an emotional let down but Muir If would be more of a concentrated effort to just win and get it over with. If Muir were to ever regain it’s strengths then I could see it being a game worth discussing right now it is what it is.

  • Fred Robledo

    Observant, that’s easy talk when you don’t have to play Muir. They’re use to scheduling heavyweights, the Amat’s, Loyola’s, Oak Christian’s and Notre Dame’s. When Monrovia beats someone of substance, I’ll give them their props. You want to be compared to the West Covina’s, Amat’s and Charter Oak’s, you have to play real step-up games, like West Covina taking on Loyola or Charter Oak facing Rancho Cucamonga and the Sierra schedule. When your toughest game is 3-7 South Hills, it’s kind of difficult to make real comparison’s. I’ve told you this. It’s easy to talk when don’t schedule anyone. You get to win and pump your chest, I get it.

  • chuck

    the stangs have always had a mentanlity of any one any time. So for muir to play “monrovia” would be know big deal…we would welcome the game..it will never happen because of the gang influence in both cities..and the last time we played, the stangs won in a laugher in 2000..monrovia fumbled on the opening kickoff (intimidation) and it was over from there…they dont want it!

  • Relentless D

    Actually, South Hills will have a scrimmage game vs. Covina on Friday 08-26-11 at District Field 6pm. It’s a must see, Go HUSKIES !

  • Observantcat

    Seems like you pump some of these schools chest for them for just getting on the field and getting blown out. Question, when was the last time Muir beat someone of this substance you keep talking about? Please let the rest of the San Gabriel valley listeners in on this one. Myself and others over at Monrovia would love to see Coach Maddox set up games against teams like Amat, Loyola, West Covina etc…… No one is pumping our chest we play who is in front of us and do what we do WIN! I don’t recall anyone saying that Monrovia’s schedule was the ideal schedule but regardless of our schedule these teams have the same capabilities to try and win as we do. I recall you saying the same thing last season about Arcadia having to be a pacific league team and how Monrovia would struggle to beat them YOU were DEAD WRONG! and if I were a betting man I would put my money where my mouth is. Dont blame the team, blame the system. You can say anything you want about last seasons South Hills team, but I would bet the farm that they would have demolished the Pacific league last season. You made your point back when you worked over at the Star News about how you couldn’t imagine Monrovia stepping up and winning the Pacific and I see that you still feel that way. Ok and you have the nerve to use West Covina as your example of bigger and better teams, that must mean that Covina is a Monster. My question to you is what makes other teams better than Monrovia? Please explain. The schedule?,,,,,The Players?…. The Neighborhood? ……. The Coaching?….. I thought so…. Nothing! should be your best unbiased reasoning. I give props where props are due, you seem like a scratched record still living in the past on what teams used to do. You take Monrovia’s best 6 players in Blue and Gold and they go to the PAC 5 championship The other way around they just get by winning the Mid-Valley Championship. Maddox and company are still settling into his legacy over at Monrovia and so far so good. He’s still getting his system in place and the team is becoming more and more disciplined under his guidance. I know you like controversy because it sells papers but you also have to be a bit more fair in your assessments of teams you give your biased nicknames to (BillyCats) I see we will continue banging it out until Monrovia goes on to either win a State title or Moves into a stronger Div. but for now I will still continue to support Monrovia’s efforts to become the team that make you eat your words some day soon. Peace out Freddie!

  • Aaron

    It would be nice to face of with Damien. I’d still be taking the Cats until I saw some real improvement over there…in the Mendrum years it would have been them for sure.

  • FredJ

    Observant, I like your passion, I always have….

  • SaintsR4real

    Freddy,

    Way to man up, agree to disagree!!

    Man, it’s getting hot up in here! Let’s keep it positive.

  • New York

    Fred,
    The Maddox has these guys playing so even-keeled compared to any team that you covered. For a long-time Monrovian, it refreshingly bizarre…I guess what I’m saying is that the emotionaly roller coaster just isnt there. It is far more professional than ever before.

    If you take Muir, I would have preferred an argument based on a Florida recruit becoming an X-factor game breaker. Rather than intimidation…The comparison to PHS is insulting and makes me question your integrity, if I did not know you better. Frankly, if you looked like me your comparison to PHS would be called into question for other reasons.

    There is absolutely no basis for it. PHS has been dominated by Muir for so long such that their players probably honestly beleive their is a jinx or something wrong with their water. Besides that, if you attend PUSD and want to play football, you go to Muir. Basketball you go to PHS.

  • New York

    Freddy,
    You are absolutely correct on one accord: Monrovia needs to schedule up and win those games. No more losses to Glendora and no more falling asleep against San Dimas. You’re right.

    Also, my comment below was directed toward your lack of analysis on this specific topic, NOT toward your character.

  • trojans85

    SGV teams need to start looking to the IE for more games. Especially with the Sierra now in the Inland Division.

    Games I would like to see;

    Amat vs Centennial Corona (big time programs, Hags has already beaten CC when he was at JWN)
    Charter Oak vs Norco
    West Covina vs Rancho Verde (this would be a shootout)
    Covina vs Citrus Hill (similiar schools, CH has won 2 titles recently)

  • Just 4fun

    Calpreps 2011 Predictions

    1. Bishop Amat 42, Charter Oak 8

    2. Monrovia 31, Muir 14

    3. West Covina 35, Charter Oak 20

    4. Covina 31, South Hills 22

    5. Bonita 28, Damien 21

    6. West Covina 28, Monrovia 21

    7. Baldwin Park 31, Sierra Vista 12

    8. Arroyo 22, Azusa 21

    9. Bishop Amat 38, Chino Hills 21

    10. Damien 27, Glendora 14

  • Dan

    Bishop Amat, West Covina, La Habra, Chino Hills, Charter Oak all mixing it up.