Two-Minute Drill: Bonita vs. San Dimas

Watch the Two-Minute drill preview of Thursday’s Smudgepot Showdown between Bonita and San Dimas, to be played Thursday at Citrus College at 7 p.m. On Tuesday we will preview Glendora-Charter Oak and Wednesday we will discuss Saturday’s big game, West Covina vs. Covina at The District.

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  • Aaron

    I think Aram called it.

    Bonita returns a lot of guys that played a good amount of reps last year, yes they’re young at the key position of QB. I like what I’ve seen in Tanner Diebold, he’s a hard worker.

    The offense and defense returns several key players…in this match-up I definitely like the Bearcats.

  • Observantcat

    Aram, you are Right On with your assessment of San Dimas, they are left with a few left over players from that 2009 squad which none are true impact players and the rain has ceased to follow them into their future seasons. For the past few seasons they did have a few skill guys that worked hand in hand to create a great team atmosphere for their fans, this season ???? I hope their not expecting Dillon Corona to be their go to guy or Kennedy to make miracles happen. I liked their QB Kody Keith he played hard and took risks that I dont see Kennedy wanting to take this season, Kennedy was primarily just a guy who could hand the ball off as a sophomore, if Bonita has any kind of rush defense this this year, that game could be over by halftime. I dont really have enough information about Bonita except that they are much bigger up front and that San Dimas wont have a competitive defense to hold back any good running backs this season. Prediction, Bearcats by 14. On another note I have Covina by the same score against West Covina.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    As I said in the Drill, I remain totally baffled how anybody, including Coach Zernickow, can be saying this year’s team is just as good, if not better, skill-wise than they were last year or the year before. I saw them at Arroyo, and yes it was a passing tourney and that’s not their thing, but they didn’t wow me skill-wise. Maybe we’re all in for a big surprise. Maybe they’re hiding some freaks over there. Coach Z sure has Freddie believing that the skill guys are right where they’ve been the past two years.

  • Colt74

    WOW!
    1. Build a cage around the table! That was GREAT!
    2. Agree with some points by Aram, Fred, Aaron, And Observantcat.
    3. Sometimes you just gotta go with your gut ( and mines big enough to listen to ) and go against the paper match ups. I’m going with San Dimas by 6. I think Kennedy will be more of a play maker than facilitator this season. I like what I have seen from him this summer.
    4. Do I believe for 1 second that S.D. is better than the last 2 years player wise? HELL NO! But I think they have enough to build on as the season progresses.

  • Fred Robledo

    Junior Denzel Mitchell and sophomore Jake Payton were the two new backs along with senior Dillon Corona coach Z spoke about, and yes, he was real excited. He’s there everyday, which means he probably knows more than people who stop by for 30 minutes to catch a glimpse. I’m so tired of hearing how so and so looked over the spring or in the summer. St. Louis, Detroit and Houston are the only 3-0 teams in the NFL preseason, does that make them favorites when the “real” games begin? Like I told Aram, there are more questions and holes to fill with Bonita than San Dimas. Plus, it’s an emotional-filled rivalry game and in games like that, I like impact players that have been in these types of games, like Corona or Kennedy. Observant compared Kennedy as a sophomore to what he expects now? That’s like saying Monrovia’s DeShawn Ramirez didn’t do anything in the Mid-Valley championship two years ago, so he’s not an impact player today. That’s crazy, Ramirez is a senior and a scary back, and Kennedy is much more polished and experienced QB, just like Corona in the backfield.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Fred,

    Wait, wait, wait. How do you know that Kennedy and Corona are more polished? And I guess it makes sense for somebody who didn’t spend ONE minute watching these teams this summer to question somebody who spent 30 minutes. You keep going by what coaches tell you. They’re not biased or anything.

  • hungrycat

    bonita just got a huge transfer from arizona, just another addition to already a solid squad. this kid played on the state team in arizona and heard hes the real deal

  • Observantcat

    Fred take a sip of that bottled water and get your thoughts together. Coach Z would trade half his offense to have a guy like DeShawn in his Backfield this season. DeShawn has impressed everyone who has seen him since he’s been back. And for the record that comparison is like apple and oranges. Since they are both back and neither played last season, Thats like comparing McCarthy to their best defender.. No WAY!!!!!!! Jose ………..

  • SaintsR4real

    Observantcat,

    Cmon man, I don’t go to the east side and talk about what I “thnk” is true!! I respect you cuz I believe you talk facts and predictions, not “I THINK” info. Let me help you, the Saints have at least 6 returning stand outs from their 2009 playoff team. all you have to do is visit max preps. You have to realize, all the above guys except for Espinoza (froshman) were sophomores, and now with 2 years more experience and better than ever. I have heard you talk about the same thing rearding Monrovia, time aftr time, no difference. Kody Watts was a fine QB, his best attribute was not being afraid to run with the ball. Kennedy is by far better in passing and running if you compare senior to senior year. I won’t go any farther, just see for yourself. I could predict forever, but predictions are just that.

    On the flipside, what exactly has Bonita shown us?? I know whats not there, passing game, QB that can’t run yet (Sophomore, u know like Kennedy in 2009?) and two runing backs at best. Defense, really? San Dimas beat them by three touchdowns at Arroyo in passing league and San Dimas is not a passing team, as you guys say.
    Please give us something that we can really appreciate.

    Aaron, ummm, scoot aside, you have no insight whatsoever!

  • just sayin’

    funny that PuddyTat has been claiming that Monrovia losing essentially their ENTIRE offense with little Nicky’s graduation will not hurt them in the least and will make them better and more balanced – but when someone else graduates players – “Whoa Nelly, they’re in trouble”
    Homerism at it’s best. I guess that’s why they’re called FANatics

  • Fred Robledo

    Observant, you have the advantage of watching Ramirez in practice and games all the time, so read what I said, he’s a senior and going to be scarry. But you wouldn’t know that based on what he did as a sophomore in the championship? He was a non-factor in that game. Corona and Kennedy should be much improved too, so don’t go by what you saw in a championship of Kennedy two years earlier, not when you don’t see him all the time or how he’s developing. I’m not saying Corona or Kennedy are of Ramirez’s quality or impact, but they’re improved, so say the coaches who work with them daily. My whole point was not that San Dimas are world beaters, but that they’re good enough to get by a Bonita team in transition. Plus O-Cat, Monrovia has nothing on San Dimas. For the record, they’re 2-2 head-to-head and both with a CIF title since 2009. Looks like the rubber-year to me.

    I won’t touch Aram’s, “you keep going by what coaches tell you.” Isn’t that what we do for the most part? If I had a nickel for every time we posted something a coach or source told us, I wouldn’t need to work here anymore. — We all use coaches for information, without them, we couldn’t write accurate previews.

    I know coaches can embellish or hide things, that goes with the territory. But like I said, I’ll trust Coach Z’s assessment on this, he usually tries to downplay what he has, so we’ll see.

  • Steve Ramirez

    I have to go with Fred on this one. The key components of the Wing-T are the fullback and the quarterback and San Dimas’ most-experienced players are fullback Corona and quarterback Kennedy. Remember, it’s a deception offense, but also requires some read decisions. The biggest mistake people make is they don’t think the quarterback does nothing but hand off and throw a few passes. But he also has to make the right read, whether to give it to the fullback, give it to the sweeping wing or throw it up top. This offense, like the veer and spread option, is designed to spread the field horizontally and take the attention on anyone player, so it’s almost the perfect offense for a team that doesn’t have dominating lineman. The fullback is the the main key, but the quarterback has to make the right read. It helps San Dimas having its two most-experienced players in those positions. The one thing I noticed about Coach Z when he has his program built, he usually doesn’t have much of a drop-off from one year to the next. So if he is saying this club matches up, I tend to believe him. He did go to APU, after all.

  • SaintsR4real

    Fred,Stevo,

    You guys are right on, you called it precisely!!

    As John C. Riley expressd the Wing-T in Taladega Nights “Now you see it, now you don’t”!!

    San Dimas Saints 2009 “THE MAGIC MEN”!!

    Shake and Bake that!!

    Aham,
    Get off it! Can’t believe you went there with Freddy. You may go and scout more than Fred, but how much can you see from the parking lot in your car with King Taco??
    The only person Coach Z. messes with is you Aram, cuz he he knows you don’t know squat about football and you show too much disrespect for all. You really have no business rating the San Dimas, Bonita game, you don’t have squat for info.

  • SaintsR4real

    Obervantcat said “Fred take a sip of that bottled water and get your thoughts together. Coach Z would trade half his offense to have a guy like DeShawn in his Backfield this season”

    Maybe NOT! Fellow football lover, if you have the time, take a trp back to 2009 in max preps. You will find Corona was the more dominating, all around player that year. Dillon topped Deshawn in Rushing yards per carry and defensive tackles for the whole year. Dillon also scored more points than Deshawn for the year because of his record brraking year as our kicker.
    So Deshawn sat all last year and Dillon just got better. Not saying he who the better player is now, just saying time will tell.

    What else you got….bring it!

  • Observantcat

    Ok, Saints4real, you know the season has officially started when you and I have a good old shouting match on this blog. First and foremost when is the score even?…. So Monrovia slipped up a couple of times in the past two years but prior to these seasons Monrovia has never lost a game to San Dimas… they were on the schedule back in the early 2000′s where I believe Monrovia shut out SD two straight years. Now getting to this day and age, Yes SD did Win the CIF Championship in 09 and DeShawn had a terrible night in the monsoon but earlier that season DeShawn had 149 yards rushing on just 9 carries Monrovia had 342 rushing yards total on just 32 carries as a team while SD had 204 yards on 47 carries. I applauded your Defense on the CIF victory for playing a heads up game and stopping what could have been either way. Only 2 TD’s were scored total by either team that night and DeShawn did miss a pass on the last play of the game that would have put all of this talk to rest. The following season Monrovia did what it was supposed to do and that was to exact revenge on SD, I personally believe that Monrovia was looking too far ahead in the first game and completely lost focus and allowed SD who realized that opportunity was still in the air and pulled out a great performance at the end of the game. Monrovia saw SD again in the Semi’s and exacted revenge for the first game as well as 09′s stumble in the finals. This season I believe we have a more mature team of atheletes that will not let another letdown happen from a team we know we should dispose of. I think that if Codee Watts had another year at SD he would still be your starting QB, You guys were very soft towards the end of last season and I know that most of your better atheletes have left for greener pastures. There are no more Juston Winrows, Kevin Kolbecks, Theo Darlingtons, Ryan kohlers, and your Freshman team has very little to be desired, so thats how I have drawn my conclusion on what SD is made of this season. I am willing to go as far to say that Azusa will give you guys all you can handle this preseason. I actually wish I could give you guys a better outlook and was hoping that I could justify you guys beating up on the Bearcats because it only makes things more interesting in the long run when CIF can determine what genius’s such as Fred Robledo constantly refer to the mid-valley Div. is such an underdog to other Div. in close proximity to our school districts. And as far as “justsayin is concerned “GET A LIFE” (Just sayin) you have no team.

  • progress

    Fred just one second, I quote you… “But you wouldn’t know that based on what he did as a sophomore in the championship? He was a non-factor.” In the first meeting Deshawn had 150 yards rushing and 1 td. In the Finals…San Dimas shut the whole Monrovia offense down, not just Deshawn. Anyone that has ever seen him warm up knows he is the real deal….

    Saint’s at no point did Corona have better stats than Ramirez. Corona’s best year was his Sophomore year. He had 846 yrds rushing 7 tds, 101 yrds rec 2 tds, and not punt or kick returns for tds. He had 35 tackles that year Ramirez is had 11 big deal. Corona is not even top ten RB’s in valley… If he would not have had to sit out last year, you know he would have had more than 645 yrds rushing and 3 tds and 113 yrds rec 0 tds, like Corona did last year. He is a good player…but don’t compare him to Ramirez it’s not even close.

    Here are Deshawn’s Soph stats, and the other top backs as sophmores stats…as you can see he Was then and is now still a top back for sure.
    “Monrovias DeShawn Ramirez 2009: (851 yards rushing, 10 TD; 3 receptions, 113 yards, 2 TD; 5 kickoff returns, 314 yards, 2 TD.)”

    Chris Solomon So 09-10 266 yrds Rushing 4 tds
    161 yrds rec 2 tds.

    Hart So 09-10 525 yards Rushing 7 tds 11yrd rec

    Ainsworth Jr 10-11 746 yards 4 Tds 364 rec 4 tds

    Not to take away from the thread. I am split right down the middle on this one. Both of these offenses are not as good as they were last year. However, just because we don’t know who the players are yet and they have not played yet, does not mean the replacements are not as good or better as last years cast. Bonita’s offense will start out slow with new QB. San Dimas’s will be challenged with Bonita’s size up front. This will be a medium scoring game. The deciding factor is the game is going to be “Defense and Special teams”. Bonita has the size, and better athletes on defense. They also have a huge weapon with the valley’s best kicker. Extra pts, and FG are crucial in a opening game. However, San Dimas is scrappy, sneaky, and won’t give up. They will have 2-3 trick plays up off their option wing z. They are also well coached, so they will be in this game. They will come to play even if outmatched. Bonita wins 20-14 in a nail biter.

  • Saintsforeals

    I love it how Observant Cat and others leave out important little facts. Yes, Monrovia blew out San Dimas in their first meeting in 2009, but keep in mind that Ryan Kohler, who went on to win the Mid-Valley Division MVP, was injured on the second play and never returned. When he returned and the Saints were at full strength, Kohler was basically the player of the game and the Saints won. Case closed pal, the only comparison I care about is when both teams are at full strength, neutral field. What are you gonna say now, it was because of the weather?

  • NEWS FLASH

    I would have to agree with Aram. Saints skills guys better than last two years? Better yet last four-five? Really, Corona is just an average guy and Kennedy is small with no arm.

    Bo-Hi even with there new QB should win it again this year.

  • progress

    I don’t think you remember a guy by the name of Derrick Johnson, our all CIF LB… Well he got injured in the championship game…so whatever….we don’t make excuses San dimas was the better team that night. Well that was then, this is now. We don’t care about the field, nor weather now. We beat you at home, by 30 pts last season in the Semis. This year we play you at Monrovia. The Only cased that is closed, is the saints chance of winning the VVL and Midvalley. Now who is the reigning midvalley champs? Thought so…we will pick up where we left of last year….don’t worry, you are going to see all of the Monrovia and Ramirez you want. I’d worry about Bonita….right now. Because you have a better chance of beating them then Monrovia this season…

  • Observantcat

    Mr. saint4real, Neutral, do you not recall our last meeting at your pot hole filled stadium, in the semi’s. Well this year it will Be at MHS and as for this years team DeShawn is only 1 player that will take part in what I will say is a much improved Oline which will average 6’4 255 lbs and I will say the best receiving corp in the Valley. QB 6’3 230lbs. and running backs with 4.4 – 4.5 speed and no were not Pomona. LOL!!!!!

  • ???

    Observantcat,

    I think you are having a tuff time with the word AVERAGE,

    “Oline which will average 6’4 255 lbs”

    McCathy is the tallest player on your team at 6’4″, no one else is 6’4″ so how does your line average 6’4″?

    Now Ramirez stats at U100
    4.61 40
    30.5 inch vertical

    That 4.4 4.5 looks to be just a little off, doesn’t it.

    How about these numbers,

    4.53 40 “ESPN”
    35 inch vertical
    505 squat
    295 bench press

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/180472/sir-darius#Athletics

    and no were not Monrovia. LOL!!!!!

  • Observantcat

    ?????
    Well let’s do a little math.

    OL/DL
    Mc Carthy 6’4 305
    Norman 6’5 265
    Crane 6’3 225
    Miravet 6’4 275
    Taggert 6’1 290
    Spencer 6’3 255

    Do the Math……. Yes this is Monrovia

    I do believe I know how fast Ramirez is as well as Bias and Harris.

  • progress

    With all that being said, Tarien Owens is the highest rated running back in the valley. Deshawn is D1 type athlete. Solomon is a D1 prospect…There is a slight difference between game speed and 40 times. If a high school kid can run between a 4.6 and 4.5 that’s a fast back. Like they say, some kids run faster with the ball in their hands. Players like Owens, and Ramirez do not get tripped up and don’t get caught from behind…Lets call it “Fluidity”. Observant cat…They are big lol, but you know every player in high school has about a inch added to there height. The Monrovia line Avgs about 6’3 1/4 260. That’s three 6’2 guys and two 6’3 guys and Ellis. Thats good size. They will match up with anyone in the Midvalley, that’s for sure.

  • ???

    I missed Norman and that is just about the weakest response I have seen from you. You posted numbers that prove you are full of crap, do the math. By the way Mirvat is listed at 6’3″ not 6’4″ and that is on your own max prep site, so know I guess you know the players better than even your coaches.

    Like progress said just about everyone adds 1 inch to their height, some even more than that. A good example of that, McCarthy is listed at 6’5″ on one site, and he is only 6’4″ according to you and you know your players.

    http://www.calihighsports.com/profile/258

    Since you can’t do the math I will do it for you

    6’4″
    6’5″
    6’3″
    6’3″
    6’1″
    6’3″

    with your coaching staffs numbers that is an average of 6’3″ (3.166) not 6’4″. Now you factor in the cheat factor and I would project your lines real height at about 6’2″ which is good size but not the 6’4″ you want everyone to believe.

    Another weak response “I do believe I know how fast Ramirez is” is that really the best you can do. I guess the stop watch in your head is more accurate the the elect. one they used at U100, ok I beleive you, haha.

    Either way ALL your stats don’t seem to be to accurate do they, haha.

  • ???

    I missed Norman and that is just about the weakest response I have seen from you. You posted numbers that prove you are full of crap, do the math. By the way Mirvat is listed at 6’3″ not 6’4″ and that is on your own max prep site, so know I guess you know the players better than even your coaches.

    Like progress said just about everyone adds 1 inch to their height, some even more than that. A good example of that, McCarthy is listed at 6’5″ on one site, and he is only 6’4″ according to you and you know your players.

    http://www.calihighsports.com/profile/258

    Since you can’t do the math I will do it for you

    6’4″
    6’5″
    6’3″
    6’3″
    6’1″
    6’3″

    with your coaching staffs numbers that is an average of 6’3″ (3.166) not 6’4″. Now you factor in the cheat factor and I would project your lines real height at about 6’2″ which is good size but not the 6’4″ you want everyone to believe.

    Another weak response “I do believe I know how fast Ramirez is” is that really the best you can do. I guess the stop watch in your head is more accurate the the elect. one they used at U100, ok I beleive you, haha.

    Either way ALL your stats don’t seem to be to accurate do they, haha.

  • Informant

    Yes Z would trade half his team for Ramirez but who wouldn’t.

    Aram, thanks for watching us for 1 series vs. El Monte, who we spanked, at Arroyo Tourney.

    Guess we shouldn’t show up since Bonita is heavily favored and Aram says we stink.

    Azusa……come on, get outta here. Our JV would wax your varsity. You just worry about Gladstone and LP.

  • SaintsR4real

    Observantcat/ Progress,

    Tell me, with all the predictions you guys have have, have you actually been out there to see teams like San Dimas and Bonita?? I have seen the likes of Monrovia, Azusa, Bonita, and other future opponents and by that, I can conclude my predictions.
    Alot of bloggers as you guys, always talk about what could’ve, should’ve, would’ve happened. What kind of crap is that! That’s not reality and anybody could go on for days doing that. Please, review your past post and realize that 40 percent of could’ve, would’ve, should’ve, doesn’t help your arguments at all.

    Observantcat,
    Codee ( very good QB) was Coach Z’s choice for QB ONLY bcuz Kennedy was injured last yesr. He actually wasn’t supposed to return last year, but he worked hard to play last couple games.
    When you guys and Aram talk about the Saints past players and the respect you show for them, why can’t you realize as any ther team, we have reloaded with, in Z’s eyes and mine, better guys than ever. Why is that so hard to believe? Unless of course, you have actually been out to our practices.
    I appreciate your first response, but Azusa, REALLY? That’s why I question what you actually know. Tell you what!! If Azusa beats San Dimas, I will hunt Aztec Pride down and buy him dinner. I will also commit to retire from this blog for remainder of this season!! That’s how strong I feel about that remark.
    BTW, please tell me that wasn’t you that posted at 11:56 last night. Out of your character.

    Progress,
    Dude, bring your reality back. I’m having alot of laughs reading your stuff.

    When you post stats, please be clear. Don’t jump from the target to other players not relevant.
    Let me help you;
    2009 season totals

    Rushing, DeShawn 104/851, avg. 8.18 p/run….Corona 73/846, avg. 11.59 p/run.. RUSHING? Corona

    Receptions, DeShawn 3/113, avg 37.67 p/catch…Corona 3/101, avg. 33.67
    RECEPTIONS? DeShawn

    Total Tackles, DeShawn, 12, Corona, 47
    Total Tackles? Corona

    Kick off ret. DeShawn 5/314, Corona no stats
    Kick off Ret? DeShawn

    Field Goals, DeShawn no stats, Coronajust missed CIF all time record.

    Total Points, DeShawn 88, Corona 136
    Total Points? Corona

    I won’t go any further with this comparison hear on out, but I hope I don’t hear someone shout out “Don’t ever compare Deshawn with Corona, not even close”! You’re right, Corona was clearly better player in 2009!!

  • FredJ

    I’ll say this about coach Z, his 2008 team with Nico Barbone and Daniel Joseph was scary, they were routing everyone, scoring 50 points a game and rushing for something sick like 350 yards a game. They looked unbeatable until they were stunned in the playoffs by Rosemead, falling behind three touchdowns in the first five minutes and never recovering. It was like watching Buster Douglass knockout Mike Tyson, everyone was in shock. With nearly everyone graduating from that team, I kind of laughed when coach Z said the following summer that they’re going to surprise people with a sophomore at quarterback (Shawn Kennedy) and a new backfield (with sophomore Corona). I can hear Aram, “are you telling me this team is going to be good without Barbone, Joseph, are you kidding me. You’re going to believe what a coach tells you?) All that team did was win the championship in a year nobody expected much from them. That’s why I believe it when coach Z says he likes what he has, and that he has faith in his backfield. He’s been right before. And you know what, I didn’t see them practice that summer either.

  • Go Bonita

    Fred:

    I agree with you on one thing. The 2008 team had the best backfield in there school history. Period. They simply ran all over us! What I dont agree with is there backfield or team is better than years in the past. Do you really expect Coach Z to say there not as good as the past? Really now! Everything is relative, the 2009 season comp was really alot different in the VVL and the division wasn’t much better except Monrovia. The 09 backfield was lead by Kohler not Corona.

  • New York

    I appreciate the San Dimas rivalry, but in some ways I wish we did not play SD during the regular season…that way we could each play 14 different opponents…I would prefer trading the regular season game against SD in for a game with another Wing-T team—West Covina.

    An interesting note, in each of the last two years SD and Monrovia are 2-2 against each other; each team has won and lost both a major playoff game as well as a preseason game. But, Monrovia’s two victories were blowouts (one at MHS and one at SD) while SD’s two victories were very close (one at Citrus in the rain and one at SD). Dissecting the characteristic of those victories allows me to conclude that Monrovia has the ability to dominate SD when we are focused AND utilize our weapons. Remember, McCarthy was not on the offensive side of the ball during the first few games last year.

    So, does SD have an advantage during close games? Maybe. But if Aram or someone else talks about mental ownship again then I think that will be another laughable offense.