Breaking News: Bishop Amat lineman Andrew Hauser transfers to Charter Oak, but he is not eligible for varsity football until 2012

Bishop Amat junior Andrew Hauser, a 6-foot-2, 235-pound offensive lineman who played on the Lancers’ 9-2 varsity squad as a sophomore, left Amat on Monday and transferred to Charter Oak. However, Hauser will not be eligible for varsity football until Sept. 20, 2012, having to sit out the rest of the season, and three games next year after playing in three games for Bishop Amat in September. Charter Oak filed a “limited eligibility” request to CIF so that Hauser could be eligible in all other sports except varsity football, which was granted. It’s a big blow for Amat, who is already thin on the offensive line, and another huge transfer-gain for the Chargers.

Update: I spoke with coach Hagerty, and what I can share on the record is that Hauser left the school on Monday over philosophical differences between player and coach. The team has spoken about it and is moving on, according to coach.

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  • News

    Was he starting this year for Amat? In other news, Jalen Moore was named Cal-Hi sports SoCal offensive player of the week. http://tinyurl.com/3zfdkrr

  • Witness

    I wouldn’t call it a “BIG BLOW”, maybe a stubbed toe(walk it off son). Amat is a team,not one player!
    I hope it was for athletic reasons and not financial. Times are tough out there and this is going to start happening more than it already is.
    Good luck Andrew, you will always be on my radar.

  • LOL

    Haha! I click on the sports section and what do I see on top of the page? A coupon for Bliss Showgirls?! LOL. The economy must have hit the tribune hard.

    Anyway, considering how small is the Amat line, I’m wondering how much of a loss it’ll be. He probably would have been close to 250 pounds his senior year.

  • a little confused

    was this kid on amats team for the first 3 games this year? or did he transfer at the start of the school year and cif is just getting to his tranfer request at this time? if he was on the amat team for the 1st 3 games this year, does that mean that his limited eligibility applies thru the 1st 3 games next year or will he be eligible for the 1st game of next year?

  • Lance R

    Someone posted yesterday about a Mutiny going on over at Amat. Is this what they are talking about? Is this a isolated player leaving or are there more unhappy parents / players. I find it hard for kids not wanting to play for Hagerty. Hope there is not another mass exodus like in the Verti years. Please expand if you know something other than this one player. Was this kid a starter or was someone on OL 5’6 170 pounds starting over him and he felt slighted. Or lets just say Daddy pulled the plug. If it is financial I stand corrected for the assumption here.

  • Not Sure / Just Heard

    I might be just spreading rumors, but I heard he wasn’t making grades and was on thin ice. Again, I just heard this and can not prove it.

    My source is a student on the team.

  • Mystified

    Wow! Just remember, the grass is not always greener on the other field. What a shame for this youngman. I wonder why he chose to leave Amat? As it stands, he will not be eligible to play Varsity Football for CO until the fourth game of NEXT year 2012-13 (His Senior Year). You can’t be seen and evaluated standing on the sidelines in “civies”. Best of luck “Charger” I hope you get whatever it is that you are seeking.

  • Education First

    As we all are on here making comments and cutting eachother down as we suuport our teams and rag on the other teams, we need to remember that we are talking about high school students. Education has to be the primary objective of each student and parent – it is not football.

    Amat is a very good educational institution. I know that other players in the past have not made the grade and transferred out themselves to avoid being pulled off the team and being embarrassed.

    I’m not saying that is happening here, just re-enforcing the importance education has over sports.

  • Proud Parent

    I have a sophomore at Amat now, and have had two other children graduate from Amat. My eldest went on to Stanford, and my daughter is at Cal Berkley. I attribute their success to the great education they received at Bishop Amat.

    None of my previous children played sports, but were involved in the clubs Amat provides. Although my younger son now does play a sport at Amat.

    Keep up the great work Amat.

  • It is a Loss

    This kid was a great player. He is a beast on the line and CO will get their best lineman by far. If he plays JV this year he will be tossing kids left and right. I guarantee he is better than any lineman on that CO varsity squad right now.

    Yes he played the first three games, and he usually dominates against anyone he goes up against. He is just one player, and although he will be missed, his education has to come first. Hopefully he is able to find what he is looking for at CO.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    There is plenty of stuff floating around out there, but right now it’s all speculation.

    I would assume that if he’s eligible to have been playing at Amat, then grades aren’t the issue.

    Hopefully Freddie can talk to Coach Hagerty and get some insight on this.

    But it’s not a good sign when your starting left tackle up and leaves in the middle of the season … and heads to Charter Oak of all places. Maybe he lives in the CO district?

    Like I said, too much to speculate on until coaches, the kid or his parents want to comment.

  • FredJ

    For those wondering, grades are not the issue at all, Hauser is a straight A student, a 4.3 is what I was told. I do not know the reason he left, however he did start and was one of their best offensive lineman…

  • TruthBeTold

    Hauser had good grades and it wasn’t a grade thing, he was great and will be missed but Amat will continue on. The Coaches turned up the heat and a number of kids didn’t like it, maybe this is the mutiny you talked about. The team seems to be rallying around each other and I expect them to perform well this week. They had a great practice last night. The nucleus of the team is still there and we will persevere. Go Amat.

  • Letthebeatdownbegin

    Truthbtold,

    They should have a good week this Friday, they’re playing Damien. Damien is to Amat what Chaffey was to Damien last week.

  • Lance R

    Students come students go there at Amat and it does not always pertain to sports, sometimes Amat just does not fit that students or maybe even his parents expectations and sometimes even their budget. This kid sounds like a good student with his GPA and the best to him over at C.O.. You know as I know Amat is a headline monster when it comes to it’s football team so when something like this happens you have to wonder why?.In some cases Amat has lost good Student Athletes along the way but when it comes to losing a good football player it makes you wonder, after all who doesn’t want to play football at Bishop Amat as a kid growing up in the east SGV. Losing Rio’s blindside tackle is not a good thing but as before put in this situation someone else steps up. Beside this transfer out is there any word on anyone transferring in to play football for Bishop Amat?

  • AMAT 73

    Why is it that you guys break stories like this without the full story or reasons behind it . You state the transfer was denied by CIF but fail to mention why the transfer was needed or wanted. If indeed it leads to too much speculation as Aram wrote , why not wait until all the fact are known before releasing it for comment or present it in a different manner other than the way Fred did in his thoughts on the situation. And if football is your chosen sport the obvious choice when leaving AMAT is CO isn’t it ?

  • AMAT!!!

    All is speculation unless you know the facts. It is a loss to Amat but it isnt something Amat hasnt seen before. Amat has a way of turning bad situations in their favor. The boys on the team always stick together and in this situation they are doing just that. Although many may begin to feel the pressure being put on them by the coaching staff, its nothing these boys can’t handle. Its nothing these boys are going to allow to ruin THEIR football season. These boys play with heart and thats something that cant be taught, and its something that cant be taken away from them, no matter what happens. They will pull though!! Everyone speaks of Amat being small, but they have always been small, its nothing they havent experienced before! The gaps will be filled, and Amat will persevere!!!

  • Fred Robledo

    Amat 73, I wrote it because it’s already on CIF’s website, so the information is public. What am I supposed to do, wait until I see it on the Times’ website? Or ESPN? Sometimes you never get the full story, especially with transfers, too much privacy issues going on. That said, I won’t speculate on the reasons he left until I get a return call from Hagerty, who may or may not be able to share the reasons he left, who knows. But what I have learned poking around is that he’s a very good student, so I wanted to squash that rumor right away after someone suggested he left for academic reasons. He’s a 4.3, so that couldn’t be further from the truth.

  • Bishop and Charter are in transfer talk again?

    On the Flip Side, Charter Oak keeps living off transfers. It truly is the life blood of their program. With out the transfers, they truly are a average southeast team. With the transfers they were a true power in the south east, and up and coming inland team. I AM NOT HATING, I mean if it’s legal, then I don’t have a problem with it. I am just making a observation. However, their name always ends up in some kind of transfer talk and they seem to get good players. What will the Farrars do, if they can’t replenish their talent. I am not saying they are recruiting, their team is a attractive team to go to right now. But if you live by transfers, you going to die by transfers. When covina kids here about some hot shot RB or WR coming in from Pasadena, or Duarte or some hot transer coming in, they want to go play with them. CIF is already talking about making it even harder to transfer. When CIF puts the clamps on transfer gate, we are really going to see where the talent is in the SGV and through out the south land. Coaches are really going to have to coach and go to those junior high schools in their district and local pop warner team, and Develop those kids.

    With Economy sluggish Bishop may be hit hard too. Unlike Servite and Mater Dei, they have Rich Orange County kids coming in Droves. Bishop has more of a humble middle class hard working family type kids in their program. I have a relative who went to Bishop back in the 90′s when the economy was booming. Now it’s hard. I know parents are sacrificing a lot to send their kids to a school like that. In the future Parents are really going to have to make sure they can afford to send their kid to private school. CIF is going to be really unforgiving…even if you Financially can’t afford it.

    I hate to see kids transfer..you are not hurting the coach. You are hurting your brothers on the field, and guys who put in 3-4 yrs of hard work to build a class of players and team. I don’t know what happen, but it’s always a shame when kid losses a whole year…

  • Bishop and Charter are in transfer talk again?

    On the Flip Side, Charter Oak keeps living off transfers. It truly is the life blood of their program. With out the transfers, they truly are a average southeast team. With the transfers they were a true power in the south east, and up and coming inland team. I AM NOT HATING, I mean if it’s legal, then I don’t have a problem with it. I am just making a observation. However, their name always ends up in some kind of transfer talk and they seem to get good players. What will the Farrars do, if they can’t replenish their talent. I am not saying they are recruiting, their team is a attractive team to go to right now. But if you live by transfers, you going to die by transfers. When covina kids here about some hot shot RB or WR coming in from Pasadena, or Duarte or some hot transer coming in, they want to go play with them. CIF is already talking about making it even harder to transfer. When CIF puts the clamps on transfer gate, we are really going to see where the talent is in the SGV and through out the south land. Coaches are really going to have to coach and go to those junior high schools in their district and local pop warner team, and Develop those kids.

    With Economy sluggish Bishop may be hit hard too. Unlike Servite and Mater Dei, they have Rich Orange County kids coming in Droves. Bishop has more of a humble middle class hard working family type kids in their program. I have a relative who went to Bishop back in the 90′s when the economy was booming. Now it’s hard. I know parents are sacrificing a lot to send their kids to a school like that. In the future Parents are really going to have to make sure they can afford to send their kid to private school. CIF is going to be really unforgiving…even if you Financially can’t afford it.

    I hate to see kids transfer..you are not hurting the coach. You are hurting your brothers on the field, and guys who put in 3-4 yrs of hard work to build a class of players and team. I don’t know what happen, but it’s always a shame when kid losses a whole year…

  • Bishop and Charter are in transfer talk again?

    On the Flip Side, Charter Oak keeps living off transfers. It truly is the life blood of their program. With out the transfers, they truly are a average southeast team. With the transfers they were a true power in the south east, and up and coming inland team. I AM NOT HATING, I mean if it’s legal, then I don’t have a problem with it. I am just making a observation. However, their name always ends up in some kind of transfer talk and they seem to get good players. What will the Farrars do, if they can’t replenish their talent. I am not saying they are recruiting, their team is a attractive team to go to right now. But if you live by transfers, you going to die by transfers. When covina kids here about some hot shot RB or WR coming in from Pasadena, or Duarte or some hot transer coming in, they want to go play with them. CIF is already talking about making it even harder to transfer. When CIF puts the clamps on transfer gate, we are really going to see where the talent is in the SGV and through out the south land. Coaches are really going to have to coach and go to those junior high schools in their district and local pop warner team, and Develop those kids.

    With Economy sluggish Bishop may be hit hard too. Unlike Servite and Mater Dei, they have Rich Orange County kids coming in Droves. Bishop has more of a humble middle class hard working family type kids in their program. I have a relative who went to Bishop back in the 90′s when the economy was booming. Now it’s hard. I know parents are sacrificing a lot to send their kids to a school like that. In the future Parents are really going to have to make sure they can afford to send their kid to private school. CIF is going to be really unforgiving…even if you Financially can’t afford it.

    I hate to see kids transfer..you are not hurting the coach. You are hurting your brothers on the field, and guys who put in 3-4 yrs of hard work to build a class of players and team. I don’t know what happen, but it’s always a shame when kid losses a whole year…

  • Basic

    So if his transfer is a legit change of address or better yet Financially motivated (not having the money TO pay for BA) doesn’t the CIF have some explaining to do??? Yes they might see him as a football players, which he is, but what if financially his parents could not do it??? I am not saying that is why he transferred but times are tough…

    I hope this was not the reason, and I Really hope this does not ruin his shot at getting some financial aid to play at the next level (Scholarship even partial) because if it does, I would sue the CIF for denying his ability to obtain…

  • 12th man

    Its possible that the kid is just looking out for his future in football..With Rio,Moore,Shay,Sanchez,& a few linemen graduating..He probbably feels his best chance of getting a ring is with CO..I dont see BA as strong as CO next year..As far as this season goes..Who would you say has a better chance? Amat winning the Pac5? Or Charter Oak winning the Inland?..

  • Fred Robledo

    I spoke with coach Hagerty, and what I can share on the record is that Hauser left the school on Monday over philosophical differences between player and coach. Apparently it’s an isolated situation, the team has spoken about it and is moving on.

  • Iguy

    So that’s athletically motivated, easy case for cif – ineligible, plus you can not play for two schools in the same season of sport in the same year. “I” guy not a team player.

  • Fred Robledo

    To reiterate, Hauser is not eligible until after the third varsity football game next year. He started in Amat’s first three games, so he must sit out a full calendar year before he can play varsity football again

  • AMAT!!

    Seriously!!??? really!!??? 12th man, I can tell you this for a FACT, he DID NOT leave because he felt his chances of winning a win was better with CO! PLEASE people!!

  • AMAT 73

    Fred J ,
    Thanks for the reply . I was leaning more along the lines of go ahead and post the breaking news but do not open it up for coments until you’ve had the time to talk to the coach or even the player if possible . After you have that in hand post the additional info then let the posting begin. In hindsight don’t you think that waiting to talk to Hags would have been better ? It sure made a difference in the answer to the question of why it happened. It’s not just for AMAT but for all of these transfers going on . But good luck to him and hopefully he finds what he is looking for at CO . They got a good one in Hauser .

  • just sayin’

    12th man – easy answer. Amat will have a better chance of winnig th ePac5 than ChOak has of winning the Inland. This year or next. While you point out the graduations of Amat you forget the entire focus of ChOaks offensive production (Santiago) and their best Inland type thalete (Gilchrest) are gone too. You forget Moore emerged when people wondered who’d replace Anderson who burst onto the scene when people wondered how they’d replace Gaise. He got a shot when everyone figured Amat couldn’t replace Wagner, etc, etc
    Do you see a trend?

  • Fred Robledo

    Amat 73, in hindsight, what if the coach didn’t call me back, knowing what I was calling him about? It happens all the time, so when you have news, and it’s as authentic as a CIF ruling made public, you report it or someone else will beat you to the punch.

  • AMAT 73

    That’s if he didn’t call back but he did. Why not wait until all avenues of fact finding have been exhausted before openning up for comment. You are really the only game in town so who is going to beat you to the punch , Aram, Steve, Miguel . You can always add that you did try to reach the parties concerned but did not get a reply. Just different points of view on reporting but on most reporting of news of this nature a mention is almost always given to the fact that calls were made to involved parties but they refused to comment. After that let the speculations begin if that is what you are looking for .

  • Jefe

    You handled it just fine, Fred.

    You don’t need to explain yourself.

  • Joe Amat

    CIF issues a preemptive strike in the Blue Book when it comes to “Financial Hardship” when leaving a private school. It isn’t as cut and dry as some seem to think.

    Remember, a hardship must be an “unforeseeable, unavoidable and uncorrectable act, condition or event that causes the imposition of a severe and non-athletic burden upon the student or his/her family.”

    CIF says in he Q&A section that ” there must be evidence of an unforeseeable, unavoidable, and uncorrectable circumstance that necessitated the transfer. The Section will need evidence to show that a hardship circumstance occurred.
    The Section will require evidence the family attempted to address the situation with the private school and that aid or assistance by the private school was insufficient to address the hardship. Increases in tuition or additional costs at the private school are considered foreseeable and, therefore, do not meet the criteria.”

    So, you can’t just claim “the economy” and gain eligibilty right away.

    And the speed which this all happened isn’t so surprising when we’re talking about Kathie Wiard as Principal at CO with two former Lancers as Assistant Commissioners in the CIF office, One is a former AD at Bishop Amat and Charter Oak while the other went to school overlapping her and her husband (who I hear is CO’s new AD – hasn’t been reported here yet but apparently will remain as Amat’s Girls basketball coach…how’s that gonna work out?)

  • Haley

    There was no chance for a financial hardship from Amat to CO, it is athletically motivated according to Hagerty – “philosophical differences”

    So, your right Joe this was handled quickly in order to give the boy a chance to compete next year as quickly as possible. Amat is a class act in signing the paperwork releasing the boy.

    Also, what is this Waird is the new AD at CO, how can that be, never seen that on this website or reported by “breaking news” Robledo! How can you coach at Amat and be an AD at CO? Conflict of interests issues arise immediately.

  • archive

    I know Bishop is a historic program, but Charter Oak does have a better chance in their Division than Bishop Does in Pac5. When it’s all said and done it falls on the coach. I have never seen Bishop in so much disarray. First the whole Rio Summer and Baseball thing. Then, this. With the lost of a starting lineman. Things look bad for serra league play. That’s a blow. I think coach hag is great coach…but maybe he is not a good fit anymore. Rio Missed the summer, Lots of transfers in past two years, first round exit at home, the Servite fiasco, and if they finish in 4th or last in serra, that’s not going to be good. With practically everyone graduating next year…this might be the year for Bishop to go find a guy who can get them back to the championship level. Rebuild the program, and get some size out there. Some times it has nothing to do with coaching ability. BA Fans and Parents may have to face the music. I know everyone wants to be like servite and hire alumni, but since 2008, the program has been on the down swing, and things keep happening. Depending on what happens this season, and next season BA could be looking for new coach… At a school like Bishop you give a guy 4 years…I don’t know if you can do much more…here is article from 2008…if you notice, he won titles on the lowere levels, but once he bumped up to the big boys, he had some issues. He Resigned from Riverside poly after “4″ unsuccessful years…Maybe he could stay as a coordinator, but as head guy…well the story is unfolding before Our eyes. At the top of pac five you have some killer coaches like

    Troy Thomas, Bruce Rollinson, Harry Welch, Raul Lara, Bob Johnson, Dave White, etc….Hag is in some great company…They run killer programs…

    Freds Article from 2008
    “Bishop Amat named Steve Hagerty as its next head football coach, succeeding coach Mark Verti, who resigned in January. Hagerty is a 1980 graduate of Bishop Amat, and later returned to the school as an assistant under former coach Mark Paredes. Hagerty left Amat to become the head coach at Paraclete High School, where he won three CIF-SS Divisional titles, then left in 2000 to become an assistant with Paredes at J.W. North High School. In 2002 Hagerty became the head coach at North after Paredes moved on, and led North to the CIF finals. He left North to become the head coach at Riverside Poly, where his children attended school. After four unsuccessful years at Poly (10-27-3), he resigned to become the offensive coordinator at Citrus Hill, who won the 2007 East Valley Division title.”

  • Fred Robledo

    AS far as Richard Wiard not being the athletic director at Charter Oak, that has never been made official as far as I know. Wiard already was a teacher at Charter Oak who coached girls basketball at Amat. That’s not new. But when AD Martinez left for the CIF office a couple months ago, Wiard said he stepped in to take over the ADduties, but is not the official AD. He said that as far back as two weeks ago. He’s probably weighing what Joe brought up, if he takes the AD position at Charter Oak, coaching Amat girls basketball is probably out of the question.

  • Lance R

    Well nice job Fred J. and good thread. Philosophical Differences between coach and player. The line coach no doubt I doubt Hagerty himself. Well these are young adults and sometimes a A– chewing at their age turns a player against you as a coach. This is not the 9-10 yr. olds you scolded in Lil league or JAA. I am sure the coach or coaches are pressured to win especially against Damien so the stress level to win may be at a high with the coaches, especially the line coach, after all this is Amats weakest area the OL/DL. I am sure after our thumping at the hands of Servite and the mediocre performance against Garfield the young men in the trenches along with their coaches were catching some finger pointing especially when you have to protect our #9. The La Mirada hole opening and the game Jalen had was great but then again that was La Mirada. Playing Damien you do not want to lose the recruiting war and also another game to another Catholic School. Tempers may be running high between coaches and players and Hauser refuse to take whatever he felt he did not like.

  • Joe Amat

    archive,

    You have NO clue. The Rio thing isn’t a “fiasco”. It actually is a blueprint on exactly how a HIGH SCHOOL coach should handle an elite multi-sport athlete. I could not be MORE supportive of the manner in which it has been dealt with and anyone thinking otherwise does not understand the mission of high school athletics.

    Hags is exactly the right guy. Downswing? After the Verti era? Hags took over a program in extreme disarray, that REALLY had a transfer problem and in the 1st year went 7-4, won a Serra League title(the FOURTH best in the NATION that year) in the 2nd year, then played for one on the final week of last season – undefeated at the time. You ALL should be in such disarray.

    Just to prove how off base you really are…the whole “wants to be like servite and hire alumni” thing…Troy Thomas is a Crespi grad who came back and won championships at Crespi…when they were at a lower level. THEN he came to Servite.

  • The Chef

    First lets hope that the STUDENT has made a difficult mid-year transition successfully. Let’s also hope that the Teachers and administration at Charter Oak are helping a 4.3 GPA STUDENT to attend challenging comparable classes so that his EDUCATION is not affected by an obviously difficult choice for a 16 year old to make. Lastly, I trust that Charter Oak Administration has helped this STUDENT in the same manner they would help any STUDENT without consideration for the quality of his athletic abilities or contribution to the football program because THAT is the law and their responsibility and their passion. Everyone needs to put this event into the proper perspective and realize that the most important thing here is the STUDENT.

    FredJ, I have noted that you have, by your own account, made multiple contact attempts to AMAT and have clearly communicated the Coaches prospective and position on the events in this matter. Have you made similar efforts to clearly communicate the Students position. You have cited the privacy of the student yet you have named him, given his GPA, given his present school, the ramifications of his decision in essence everything but HIS reasons for making this decision. Now that you have given a voice to one side, isn’t only fair to offer him the opportunity to give his perspective.

  • Joe Amat

    Chef,

    Maybe the best thing about this blog is it gives *everyone* a voice…should they choose to use it

  • 12th man

    Everyone wants to be like Servite lol..The bottom line is..I dont even think Servite will win the Pac5 this year..The secondary has been exposed you can effectively go deep & run slants on Servite all day..La Habra did it in the last 5 minutes of the game when they went into an aerial attack & scored twice under 2 minutes..Amat showed some progress when they started to pass they just didnt have enough time to throw..The only way to beat Servite is to go into a no huddle offense or pass for the majority of the game..I guarantee you Servite defense will not give up more then 100 yards per game rushing for most of the season..I feel like Mission Viejo & Santa Margarita have a good chance of beating Servite because these schools like to “PASS”..but the team to watch rite now is Long Beach Poly somehow they have managed to stay under the radar..They are slowly gelling as a team & they are winning big games doing it..Come playoff time the big giant will be fully awake..LBP the sleeper team~

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Fred,

    You’re a real jerk for doing your job. You got a story on a high-impact transfer between two high-visibility schools and had it confirmed by CIF and you had the stones to report it?

    You’re right. This is the only game in town, and this is Fred KEEPING IT THAT WAY.

  • and

    12th man don’t forget the trick plays!

  • Fred Robledo

    Chef, schools privacy constraints are different than ours. I reported his name because it was on a CIF website seeking a transfer request. Second, I haven’t communicated the coaches perspective, we talked at length, off the record, and I reported vaguely the two had differences, and left it at that. When there is an opportunity to speak with Hauser, whether it’s Aram or I, he will let us know whether he feels like commenting on it or not.

  • My Pal Joey

    My Pal Joey,

    It has been a while but I see you’re getting soft in your old age..no list?…no statistics?…no sarcasm?…well I’m getting old for this as well.

    One thing I will say about Hauser is he has to be a straight A student with at least 5 AP classes going per year to be a 4.3 student unless Bishop does things different from Damien…btw…my son’s is higher…lol

    Joey, this whole Rio multi sport elite athlete thing…a little over the top don’t you think? I think the kid is good, very good actually but elite? Not likely…he’s no Eric B. or Randy Tanner is it that you mention all the time. I mean he might get p’d and light up the Spartans but let’s leave multi sport elite for guys who are D1 in two sports or better and he isn’t…but could have been for sure.

    Now this Hauser thing is troubling on so many levels but I wish every one well…just wish Hagerty had said nothing and actually helped Hauser considering he’s a top flight student athlete continue playing “this” year if possible…it’s been done before with less fuss..last year wasn’t it?

    Joey..what’s your take on the 9 thing? was McD a two time POY called..oh what was his number, lol. How about Jerry Mac ho’s actually had more success at QB than Rio’s had…seems silly to say Rio is all this and that when Jerry Mac did more right?

    Joey, since we haven’t spoke in a while..how’s you son’s paper/book coming along…I remember a great working title you mentioned once. oh well best wishes and by now we both know who each other is so please say Hi at the game…Scout’s Honor…I’ll never tell.

  • IloveSGVTribune

    “Archive Said” Amat will be fine.. Like I said before.. Championship teams aren’t built overnight.. Rome wasn’t built overnight.. Hagerty has done a great job bringing back consistency and relevance to the program. Something we haven’t seen since the early 2000s.. Transfers will happen in every program.. Amat has done a fine job reloading.. In 2010 we go 9-2.. almost won league.. and barely missed getting into the 2nd round.. We win league in 2009.. beat Bruce Rollinson and Mater Dei in the first round.. and barely miss getting to the semifinals by losing to a stacked Lakewood sqaud.. But what is consistent is how everyone.. every year keeps saying Amat is having a down year.. We beat teams we are suppose to beat.. We compete with teams that are traditionally high school powers.. and sometimes we lose to juggernauts (Servite).. I remember hearing that Amat will not beat St Bonnies.. Amat will not get passed Mater Dei.. Amat can not defend Sherman Oaks Notre Dame’s no huddle spread offense.. but yet we do.. Hagerty is doing a great job.. We have a coaching staff full of assistants who can be head coaches else where.. It’s always easier to pick on the negatives.. but I believe Amat these past 4 years has more positives than negatives.. Amat will be fine.. good luck to all the SGV teams competing this weekend.. no injuries.. and good sportsmanship..

  • Joe Amat

    LOL! 12th man – that was a good one. La Habra ran slants in the last 2 minutes, down 17-3. We never see that happen in any level of football do we? What defense do you think Servite was in and why didn’t La Habra get in the endzone until the final two minutes with the last one being a fortunate (lucky?) tipped pass.

    There was no game plan exposed against Servite in the La Habra game (did you see it?). Everyone is talking about how “tough” La Habra played them – but did not have any real offensive drives to speak of until the game was essentially over and Servite was in their prevent defense (that we know sometimes “prevents” teams from winning :-)

  • 12th man

    I almost forgot the trick plays lmao~..Thanks for reminding me lol..Someone had mentioned that Amat could not go into a no huddle offense because it only had one reciever so it wouldnt work lol..They apparently dont watch High School Football..This isnt the NFL or D1 College..you can run any type of offense you like in High School & its up to the opposing team to stop it..The majority of these top ranked teams in the Pac5 only have one stud reciever..Go look at the stats & numbers its usually just one guy leading the team in yards, receptions, & TD’s..running a no huddle takes discipline, speed & stamina…The element of suprise & the defense not being able to make the necessary subs is a recipe for disater..This is why the no huddle is so effective..

  • Joe Amat

    My Friend,

    Good to see you back. I have brought out a list every once in a while just to keep these guys on their toes.

    I will agree that Rio isn’t an “elite” QB. Very good and, I agree, with the ability to be elite should he have chosen to. But he is elite in baseball, which I was referring to…and that is precisely the point. Elite in baseball – not football.

    So Hags realized where the kids bread was buttered and handled the situation exceptionally. Why should he take away an opportunity that would be self-serving for him and his program at the expense of what is really best for the the player. Selfless move actually. Very transparent with the team, and had some clear guidelines that enable him to maintain “the hammer” should he choose to use it down the road.

    This simply wasn’t a kid deciding to go to some local showcase. It wasn’t even some football player missing a winter sport game to go on a recruiting trip – which happens All.The.Time. It was an opportunity to represent the country. If you look at alumni of these games, their “list” is littered with Major League players. If Rio really is going to be drafted high – it’s almost a must. Props to Hags for recognizing that.

    And the thesis was successfully completed. Bust it out for some intellectual wrestling now and then. I guarantee we”ll run into each other at some point in time. That would be a pleasure.

    Enjoy Friday’s game

  • 12th man

    Joe Amat,
    You hit the nail rite on the head~ La Habra didn’t score throughout the game because they were trying to establish the run game..It wasn’t until the 4th quarter when they finally realized the only way we have a chance is to start “Passing Deep” and they scored twice on a preventive defense..That speaks greater volumes..The meaning of preventive defense is not to allow the other team from scoring period!!..The fact the game came down to a onside kick that Servite recovered & took to the house was not impressive at all~ I was more impressed by the last two minutes when La Habra went into panic mode & started completing passes on the so called “Preventive Defense”..Call me crazy but isnt the whole point of “Preventive Defense” is not to let the opposing team go DEEP on you much less score??? La Habra did both!~ This is why i say the secondary was exposed..You would thing they would have pitched a shutout during the last 2 minutes knowing LH needed 2 scores..

  • archive

    Amat 73…come on now be real, When they hired this guy they expected him to get bishop back to the championship level. Hag is 26-7 looks good on paper, but you have to factor in a lot of those wins coming against lower division schools in preseason and 1 playoff win. If Bishop played the sick schedules like Servite, Mission Viejo, LB Poly, his record would be probably around .500. How has alemany become the power in the serra… That should be Bishop. He is better than Verti, but I am sorry…If bishop losses the serra again this year with this talented team( Rio, Jaylen, Shay,Sanchez etc.. what do you think is going to happen next year when Hag has even less? Troy Thomas took a dead 2-8 Servite team who had not won anything since 83, and turn them into a the Defending pac 5 Championship team in just 2 seasons….I know that is what Bishop Nation expected out of coach Hag when they hired him…I don’t know, things are looking shaky in La Puente right now. When you play on the level Bishop plays in, there is a lot of pressure to win, and win now. So is bishop in “Reloading” mode or “Rebuilding” or “Stagnant” or on the “Downswing”? I’ll let you answer that. At one time Bishop Was talking about how they were top 10 in the nation, not their league or Division. Don’t you want to get back to those days…Here’s another banger…With the way things are going….how much time do you think hag has before the “talk” about a new direction starts to surface….. this is year 4, next year is year 5… How much time would you give him if you were the AD?

  • LongTimeTartan

    If I am not mistaken, the only way CIF will declare the student athlete ineligible is if the school he attended challenges the request. This was talked about on your show Tuesday night. Your first guest called out whoever it was from Duarte that challenged the transfers of the Canada brothers. This is the same situation that happened with Wallace Gonzalez a couple of years ago when he quit at Glendora and then went to Bishop Amat. Again, if I am not mistaken, this means someone at Bishop Amat challenged this kids transfer.

  • My Pal Joey

    A few years ago people laughed when I said Jerry Mac was pretty special and I bet he’d have won that game against Tesoro…just my feeling based on Rio and Sanchez at the WRs and..oh never mind that’s an old argument for old men to discuss.

    Here’s a question for you now that Wallace Gonzalez is gone. I happen to like the kid because he was always polite to me but how was it that Hagerty never used him on defense. Seems like Hagerty is a No BS kind of coach so I can’t see a one year Bishop “senior” player telling teh coach no. At 6’4″ and 250 lbs WG was a presence was he not? Geez a TE at least but WR in the Pac 5? Nope!

    Last thing…how’s the Serra League matching up with Amat this year? Loyola finally get their house in order?

  • Fan

    Archive there are a lot of coaches in the Pac 5 who have not won a championship the last five years. Should we fire all of them?

  • COChargerfan

    I’m I missing something? Fred says that the kid filed a “change-of-address” transfer request so that must mean that he lives in CO’s district. If so, then CO isn’t getting a “recruit” but, instead, one of their very own back.

    And if this kid does live in the CO district and his parents show proof that they cant afford the $600 or so bucks a month for Amat, then how can CIF deny his transfer back to the public school district that they are legally entitled to attend?

    And folks there is precedent for the CIF approving an in season transferIm fuzzy on the details and could be mistaken on the facts but I believe it was last year that a QB transferred from LB Poly to Lakewood shortly after the season started and the CIF approved itciting a valid change of address. Someone help me out here with the details.

    And Chef, CO is an IB school so this kid isnt going to lose a second on the education side.

    The philosophical differences baloney is hilarious. Really, a grown man coaching football has philosophical differences with a 17 year old high school football player? What, they couldnt agree on how to fix the economy or whether Obama was doing a good job and thats what caused the kid to transfer? Come on, what really happened? This kid is apparently Amats best lineman so it had nothing to do with playing time. So it sounds like someones attitude needs a checkis it Haggertys or the kids? For a few days some bloggers were rumbling about a mutiny which implies that the crew (i.e. players) have problems with the Captain (i.e. Haggerty)is Hags feeling the heat of possibly having a non-playoff team and hes starting to point fingers at some of the players???

    On the bright side, a player leaving is an easy out for a coach because he can direct attention to this supposed bad egg and then rally the troupes around overcoming the adversity that this traitor has createdonly time will tell how much mileage Hags gets with this move.

  • updated

    Bishop Amat junior Andrew Hauser, a 6-foot-2, 235-pound offensive lineman who played on the Lancers’ 9-2 varsity squad as a sophomore, left Amat on Monday and transferred to Charter Oak. However, Hauser will not be eligible for varsity football until Sept. 20, 2012, having to sit out the rest of the season, and three games next year after playing in three games for Bishop Amat in September. Charter Oak filed a “limited eligibility” request to CIF so that Hauser could be eligible in all other sports except varsity football, which was granted. It’s a big blow for Amat, who is already thin on the offensive line, and another huge transfer-gain for the Chargers.

  • The Process

    Once again I have to question Fred’s knnowledge of the way CIF works. If which this player did file a change of address and everyone signs off on it, the approval is usually the same day at worse the next day. If for example in this situation Bishop Amat doesn’t sign off on it, it is automaticly denied, same periiod of time usually within 24 hours.

    For some reason you guys at the Tribune have a tuff time with a “T” approval and a “H” approval.

    T-Approval is a standard change of address, everyone signs off usually approved within 24 hours.

    H-Approval is a hardship, usually a three week process depending on the back log.

    You can also assume that Bishop Amat played there trump card “Athletically Movated”. Now it goes through the review process, where Bishop Amat submits their documention why it shouldn’t be approved and Charger Oak (the family) submits their documention why it should be approved. Or they can refile under the hardship process with documention to backup their hardship.

  • Archive

    Fan It depends on who you are and who you want to be. We are talking about moving in the right direction…

    Servite “2-8 to Pac 5 champs”

    Orange lu “Fairly new to D1 won in ’06

    LB poly “Nuff said”

    Mission Viejo was in d2. Finals last year

    Crespi “came from division X, won D1 title”

    Loyola “has been to finals in last decade, and won in last Decade.

    Mater Dei “has not been there in 10 years, but their head coach is a historic winner”.

    Notre Dame, they came up from Div 3 in 06…they have some work to do. Rooney Dominated in lower division and he has been at the same school for some time.

    Edison in the Pac 5 title game 2009

    Los Alamitos won D1 2002, Semis 2004

    Santa Margarita came up from the lower divisions and did not do well so they went and got coach Welch…

    Bishop Amat???? Bottom Line Hag needs to start his BA legacy, and so far it has not been good. According to Ol School amat football. I never said he was a bad coach, he is a good coach..his offense is nice, however I said he might not be a good fit.

    I hold bishop in high regards…they are our pac 5 rep here in the SGV. However, It’s not a good thing to compare Coach Hag to the “other” Coaches in the pack 5. Amats tradition and expectations are much higher than those other schools. Is Amat a participant or a contender??? I mean What other coaches? The Marina coach , or compton or Dana hills or LB Miliken? This Is Bishop Amat! You don’t want to go 30 years without a Semi or Finals appearance.

  • PAC5 fan

    Huge huge loss for Amat and huge gain for CO. The Oline just got thinner and smaller. Hauser is not only a great offensive lineman, he’s also a smart kid. There was friction last year between the player and Hags because Hauser went from 250lbs frosh lineman to 235lbs sophomore lineman where he still started. He was a beast during his frosh year and decimated anyone in front of him.

    I looked forward to watching him play during his last two years at Amat. He will be missed and Amat will go on sadly without this great kid.

    Good luck Andrew!

  • King Stud

    Hmmm looks like all is not well at Amat. Looks like I haven’t missed much.

  • great for the sgv

    Aram said:
    Fred,

    You’re a real jerk for doing your job. You got a story on a high-impact transfer between two high-visibility schools and had it confirmed by CIF and you had the stones to report it?

    You’re right. This is the only game in town, and this is Fred KEEPING IT THAT WAY.

    Yeehaa!!!!! then you have bishop73 trying to school him on how bishop news should be released and reported!
    Good luck to Hauser!

  • Bluebook

    It seems to me that Amat signed off on limited eligibility since it is a fact in the CIF blue book that a student transfer can not play for two high schools in the same year for the same season of sport. There was no hardship and no change of address. The sign-offs came quickly as to allow the student the chance to play next season week 4.

  • Fan

    To Archive:
    I agree with you about Amat tradition, But you have to give him more than three or four years. Some winning seasons will hopefully bring in more talent. But you cant change the coach every four years, that will keep kids away also. Its not like it used to be. When I was a kid in the 80s every kid in parochial school wanted to play for amat. Look at the roster in those days you had kids coming from 30 miles in every direction. I’m not sure if that’s the case now. Also most of those schools you name, the cross overs from The Big 5 have just as much tradition as Amat. Give Hagerty a few years, I think it will turn out alright.

  • Archive

    Fan, The reason why I have this view on hag, is that the other pac 5 schools are elevating their play every year, they are getting bigger and faster too. The serra league is now the 2nd best league to the trinity league. Honestly, Long Beach Poly is about the only school that has endless talent year in and out. Press like this is not good for a coach. This kid is smart, good and big! For him to leave, for a lower division public school, doesn’t look good to private school crowd. Why would they send their kid there if the other talented kids are leaving? Back in the day people went to Bishop and Stayed at Bishop. Where else would you want to be at in the SGV? Fred Reported respectfully with straight facts and did not get too deep into the story, with nasty details…that’s if he knew any. But basically if you think Hags not under pressure now, or in the next two years, then think again. The look on his face after the servite game, really showed me he is feeling it. I know you don’t feel good after a loss, but Bishop should not be getting whip like that by anyone….For that to happen on his watch,,,, well like I said, I don’t think Bishop is into giving a guy 7-10 years to get past the first or second round. This is year four and next year is 5. I am not saying hag can’t turn it around. He knows how to put points on the board, but he has got to get Bishop Bigger, Stronger, and Faster…and get into a semifinal game soon. I think the Bishop players are a little frustrated, They are not at a comfortable 2-1. I know the bishop faithful does not care about wins against La mirada, and Cathedral…They want to beat Damien, and all other Pac 5 opponents. I am just a blogger, but come on…now.

  • The Process

    Bluebook,

    You are clueless, please stop. Amat doesn’t decide where this kid can or can’t play.

  • Point of Fact

    For all who care to hear and for those that want to know….Lets just say that there is an ” I ” in HAUSER.

  • facts

    @ archive.other schools are getting faster and bigger because they have better talent to choose from.the talent pool for linemen is not very good in the san gabriel valley.that is not the coaches fault.

  • Archive

    facts

    excuses?…De La Salle’s line is not that big. Ladoucer likes em small quick and strong. He makes them that way. You are acting like Bishop does not have the facilities, coaches and hard working players to create the same results. Every year they whip servite good… I don’t see muscles on the players from Bishop. Sorry, get stronger!

    Concord De la Salle
    50 CHRIS OLINGER OL, DL Sr. 6-2 210
    51 JASON UCHI OL, DL Sr. 5-11 211
    52 WILL FERNANDO OL, DL Sr. 6-1 220
    53 RAY MILLER OL, LB Sr. 6-1 208
    54 SUMNER HOUSTON OL, DL So. 6-3 225
    55 J.R. RIVEONG OL, LB Sr. 5-9 202
    56 JEFF HOUD OL, DL Sr. 6-1 237
    57 LUC HAMILTON OL, DL Sr. 6-2 225
    58 DAVID MOFFITT TE, LB Jr. 6-2 200
    59 MARCUS CARDONA OL, LB Sr. 5-7 175
    60 WILL VELAZQUEZ OL, DL Sr. 5-11 211
    61 ZACH STRATTON OL, DL Jr. 6-2 220
    62 JACK OSWALD OL, DL Jr. 5-10 192
    63 MATTEO TELLES OL, DL Jr. 6-0 195
    64 JELANI SMITH OL, DL Jr. 5-9 214
    65 CHASE PIOMBO OL, DL Jr. 5-11 245
    66 MELVIN MANGOBA OL, DL Jr. 5-9 238
    67 AUSTIN MALONE OL, DL Jr. 6-2 234
    68 XAVIER BANKS OL, DL Jr. 5-11 293
    71 JACKSON LEWIS-BERNARDO OL, DL Jr. 5-11 212
    74 Jeff Houd OL, DL Sr. 5-11 230
    75 DAVID OGBURN OL, DL Jr. 6-1 210
    77 JUSTIN WALKER OL, DL Sr. 6-0 205
    78 SPENCER CHAHIN OL, DL Jr. 5-9 173

  • BoyWondering

    @ Archive

    Please tell us what particular school you cheer for on Friday nights…You talk a lot of negative smack about “bishop” so I was just wondering…

    Who is your SGV school?

  • AMAT 73

    Archive,
    I believe your post from yesterday at 5:15 p.m should have been addressed to Joe AMAT and not me. But I do agree with JA in the fact that Hags is the right man for the job. Hags has started his legacy and if MD can give Rollo 10 years to try and get back I think we can give Hags 5-6 or a few more to get us back also. We were in shambles before his return and now on the right path.
    Facts,
    I tend to agree with archive on the lineman issue. The saying of you run what you brung shows that fact with De La Salle having a very small team which I believe I pointed out to someone after last season when they were trying to make point of having the corn fed hulk type of lineman as to what is needed. If you saw the bowl game between them and Servite, DLS lines won the battle of the trenches big time. As for AMAT’s linemen we do occasionally get the 6 ft plus 240 plus type but mainly they are small but solid and quick and execute very well . Our line play has improved each week and by seasons start they should be just fine. By the way achive, who is your team of choice come Friday nights.

  • Steve Ramirez

    Sorry Joe A, I couldn’t let this pass:
    “There was no game plan exposed against Servite in the La Habra game (did you see it?). Everyone is talking about how “tough” La Habra played them – but did not have any real offensive drives to speak of until the game was essentially over and Servite was in their prevent defense (that we know sometimes “prevents” teams from winning :-)”

    It sounds like you are making excuses for La Habra playing a closer game than the one Bishop Amat played the week before. But it could be that Coach Mazzotta did what you are supposed to do in football games when you can’t match the talent of the other team. You keep it close to the vest – run a conservative gameplan – and limit the mistakes, get the game close in the fourth quarter then make some plays. Talking to our freelancer who covered the game, it sounds that’s what Mazzotta did, in addition to switching to a 3-4 defense in the second half to slow Servite down. It’s kind of like what Jack Del Rio did for Jacksonville when ever they faced the Colts and Peyton Manning, keep everything in front and at worst force The Great One to score, but take his time while doing it, which shortens the game and gives you a chance to win it late. I wasn’t at the Servite-Amat game, but it sounds like Amat tried to man up, which never works when your out-manned. Bottom line is you have to hand it to La Habra for keeping it close. I guess tonight we will see if they can do it again.

  • Steve Goes Yard !!!

    This is why Steve is the best SGV reporter of them all and second place ain’t close. The man knows when to speak, how to speak and backs up his positions without going postal or being smug. His observations are spot on and allow bloggers to reflect rather than to retort wildly. A true professional…why are you the senior writer on this side of town Steve?

  • Joe Amat

    Stevie,

    You know I respect the heck outta you, Freddie, and AT. I think you each play a valuable role and there isn’t another team of prep writers in SoCal that does what you guys do.

    BUT, if you’re going to “go yard” the nyou have to follow the whole conversation…not take one comment out of context.

    The comment of mine that you quoted was in response to something 12th man said:

    “The secondary has been exposed you can effectively go deep & run slants on Servite all day..La Habra did it in the last 5 minutes of the game when they went into an aerial attack & scored twice under 2 minutes..Amat showed some progress when they started to pass they just didnt have enough time to throw..The only way to beat Servite is to go into a no huddle offense or pass for the majority of the game..”

    Which is the exact OPPOSITE of what you said the game plan should be; “…You keep it close to the vest – run a conservative gameplan – and limit the mistakes, get the game close in the fourth quarter then make some plays…”

    So maybe you can now address 12th man. And no “excuses” for “La Habra playing a closer game than the one Bishop Amat played the week before” Servite took it to the Lancers.

    However, I do look at the flow of the game more than La Habra playing a closer game than the final score. And there is no denying that La Habra did not move the ball or punch it into the end zone until the final 2 minutes and 1 TD pass was on a deflection. My comments to 12th man were about the Highlanders offensive production compared to the Lancers.

    What La Habra did do FAR better was defend, limit Friar’s big plays forcing them into longer drives, limited costly turnovers, and played the field position game much better.

    Clearly La Habra learned some things from the Servite/Amat game… let’s hope Amat did too.

  • My Pal Joey

    Joey goes..”OVER THE FENCE” to rob a homer….lol

    Joey…the “best” in So Cal….you might need to get out of the sun…lol

    Steve’s been nails for quite some time…Fred is a great JV QB and Aram is Jeff George…you figure that out.

    Better yet…Don, You and NotSince might be more entertaining…lol

    All in good fun gentlemen…all in good fun.

  • As I see it

    I know this a conversation about football and Bishop Amat but I thought most of you would want to hear this news about Rio Ruiz and baseball. Because he was forced to make decision about football this fall he was unable to attend the final tryouts for the 18U National Team and therefore did not make the roster. I know Rio and his family personally and it makes my heart sad that this great kid was not given the opportunity to showcase his talents on the world stage. So, if any of you ever doubt his loyality to the Bishop Amat football program again you ought to be taken under the bleachers and beaten.

    18U National Team roster announced
    Final 20-man roster will travel to Colombia, Nov. 17 -27
    Facebook Tweet Digg Print Email DURHAM, N.C. — Following a five-day trials and training evaluation period, USA Baseball has announced the names of the 20 players who will make up the 2011 18U National Team. The club will travel to Cartagena, Colombia, to compete in the 2011 COPABE ‘AAA’/18U Junior Pan American Championships, Nov. 17-27.
    The 18U team will train and compete in exhibition games from Nov. 9-15, in Miami, Fla., before it leaves for Colombia on Nov. 16. It will play its first game on Nov. 17.

    Florida and California led all states in players selected with six, followed by Alabama with two, and New Mexico, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, New York, and Georgia, with one each.

    The 2011 USA Baseball 18U National Team roster is as follows:

    2011 18U National Team roster
    Player, Position, Hometown
    Albert Almora, OF, Hialeah, Fla.
    Alex Bregman, IF, Albuquerque, N.M.
    Gavin Cecchini, IF, Lake Charles, La.
    Troy Conyers, LHP, Lakeside, Calif.
    David Dahl, OF, Birmingham Ala.
    Chase DeJong, RHP, Long Beach, Calif.
    Carson Fulmer, RHP, Lakeland, Fla.
    Joey Gallo, IF/RHP, Las Vegas, Nev.
    Cole Irvin, LHP, Anaheim, Calif.
    Carson Kelly, IF/RHP, Portland, Ore.
    Jeremy Martinez, C, Fountain Valley, Calif.
    Chris Okey, C, Mt. Dora, Fla.
    Cody Poteet, RHP, Bonita, Calif.
    Nelson Rodriguez, C, New York, N.Y
    Addison Russell, IF, Pace, Fla.
    Clate Schmidt, RHP, Acworth, Ga.
    Hunter Virant, LHP, Camarillo, Calif.
    Walker Weickel, RHP, Orlando, Fla.
    Mikey White, IF, Hoover, Ala.
    Jesse Winker, OF, Windermere, Fla.

  • AMAT!!!

    All this talk of the secondary being exposed for both Amat and Servite is crazy! Sometimes it comes down to an awesome throw by the QB and/or an awesome catch by the receiver, I hate to tell you this but IT HAPPENS, ITS going to happen, its football. What matters is what happens after the play, how defenese reacts to it and what the offense can make up.

  • Doesn’t Look Good

    Joe,

    You couldn’t resist, “Clearly La Habra learned something from the Servite/Amat game”.

    Football 101, a team is bigger, stronger and faster than you, slow the game down. I guess I should have added better coached to that list.

    AMAT not La Habra learned one thing from that game, a year older but you still got the same issues at Qb.

    Being a great baseball player doesn’t make you a great QB, there are many other intangibles to being a good QB. I haven’t seen those over the last two years at Amat. I question if Amat wouldn’t have been better off with Rio at WR and DB this season. I understand thats the risky.move on Hagerty’s part, politically, Rio being the.poster boy over at Amat.

    I see the same outcome in the playoffs as last season, if you guys make it?

  • Colt74

    I’m an Amat “fan”.
    After reading the The 2011 USA Baseball 18U National Team roster I am saddened by not seeing Rio Ruiz’s name on it.
    All this talk about Amat not being a championship caliber team this year take a back seat to the championship caliber sacrifices this young future leader displayed off the field and for his teammates, coaches, and alumni.
    My take is that winning a championship pales in comparison to what is being taught in the classrooms at Amat.
    Mr. Ruiz, your dedication is in a class all by itself. It shines brighter than any trophy.

  • The Chef

    @COCHargerfan:

    I am aware of the educational reputation of CO and had no doubt that the Student would have the opportunity to be challenged at CO but often times Academically advanced classes, particularly IB classes, will be full in the 1st month of school and even an extraordinary transfer student will not be able to get all of the classes that fit his educational profile and need. Trust there was no knock on CO intended. I also believed you stated in a rather direct manner what I was vaguely alluding to (i.e. that the political line that FredJ was stating was not only total bogus but patently unfair to the student). To the extent that Fred has stated Hags’ position (or at least the position that he chose to state “on the record”)and not stated the opposing view we are getting a very made for SGVN story. Lets be real here. We all know that “philosophical differences between player and coach” is code talk for the student got into a huff and made a rash and immature decision to leave. When you hear from only one side we are left with the feeling that the Coach was being just rightly demanding excellence from the player and the player reacted wrongly. Anyone who has spent much time with 16 year olds knows how bad you want to philanthropically choke them at times. However a statement from the student or his parents may bring to light a much different perspective on the propriety of the request and the reaction of the student.

    Lastly even though I normally thoroughly enjoy the quality of the work by FredJ and staff, I do not buy his statement that he will let us know when the opportunity exists whether the student wants to make a statement. He spent a great deal of time contacting and discussing the matter with Hags but seemingly made little to no effort to get a conflicting position. If he wasn’t going to go to the same effort to get both sides, perhaps he should not have stated the Coaches official Position… The Bottom line is this: until you give everyone an opportunity to speak, you are not reporting news, you are just spreading gossip… Sorry FredJ but on this one you blew it

  • AMAT 73

    Colt74,
    Rio will go down as one of the great ones at AMAT . Not only for his play on the fields but the kid is just a class act. Humble and a gracious team player and good person. It is too bad we don’t have a local on the roster but for him to sacrifice that, speaks volumes about his character.

  • Aaron

    Jerry McClanahan, there was no hype and he was all stud from top to bottom, in the end I thought he should have been player of the year.

  • Who?

    He left because his grades were in the toilet and Hagarty wouldnt let him play.

  • TruthBeTold

    His grades were good, very good student unfortunatley the kid is a little thin skinned. The majority of the team had not turned in required paperwork and had to do barrell rolls after practice and he refused, tha’s hen the philisophical differences came up. He tried to transfer last year too, he just wants his coaches to be nicer to him. Great lineman hope he finds what he wants, maybe he needs a puppy he can call it quitter.

  • Wizard of La Puente

    Reminds me of the story when Bill Walton asked John Wooden what he was gong to do if Bill didn’t cut his hair.

    Wooden said, “I’m going to miss you.”

    It proves Hags/Amat will enforce guidelines/principles no matter who it is.

  • Not about me, about we

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OPu3fnbmvo

    Here is the great story on Wooden, Walton, showing nobody is more important than the team and that rules are made to be followed. Hopefully this is a life lesson for Houser that rules, no matter how trivial, are for the better purposes of the team. A lesson the great Wooden showed Walton, a three-time player of the year.

  • Figures

    Of course, Mr. Archive has dissapeared without claiming a particular school.

    Just another negative Amat hater who runs away when they are asked what school they cheer for on Friday nights. They get all their info from Maxpreps and then think they are experts on Pac-5 football or what it is like to compete at this level. The odds are that Mr. Archive has never seen a Pac-5 powerhouse and if he has, it probably was not pretty. And judging from his passionate anti-BA posts, it was probably Bishop Amat. lol