Friday Night Lights (for real): Alemany wins, Loyola wins in OT, then Bishop Amat wins 3-way coin flip, makes Pac-5 playoffs in stunner

BREAKING NEWS, AMAT MAKES PLAYOFFS:
Bishop Amat needed a miracle to make the CIF-Southern Section Pac-5 playoffs and came down with a Hail Mary on Friday night to reach the postseason.
Needing Crespi to lose to Loyola and Alemany to defeat Notre Dame to force a three-way tie between Bishop Amat, Notre Dame and Crespi for third place in the Serra League, Bishop Amat got its wish.
Loyola rallied from an early deficit to force overtime, then pulled out a 36-35 win over Crespi. This came moments after Alemany held off Notre Dame for a 21-14 win, leaving Crespi, Notre Dame and Bishop Amat tied for third with 1-3 records in the Serra, forcing a three-way coin flip late Friday.
Bishop Amat coach Steve Hagerty, whose Lancers (6-4, 1-3) had a bye after finishing league last week, drove to Notre Dame hoping that he would have an opportunity to be in a coin flip situation, and got it.
On the coin flip, Crespi and Amat both drew tails while Notre Dame drew heads, which eliminated Notre Dame. And since Amat beat Crespi head-to-head during league, Amat won the tiebreaker over Crespi.
Amazing doesn’t even begin to describe it.
“It (coin flip) worked out exactly how it had to work out for us,” Hagerty said. “It’s the first time in a while something like this happened for us. We had a few kids at the game and they were waiting for me to come out of the office and give them the news. I’m especially happy for our seniors, who get to play football again. We’ve got new life, now we have to go back to work.”
Alemany won the Serra League with an 8-2 and 4-0 mark and Loyola was second at 8-2 and 3-1. The CIF-SS pairings are announced on Sunday.

Friday’s results
Etiwanda 45, Glendora 24Glendora High School wanted to go out on a winning note, but Etiwanda quarterback Larry Cutbirth had other ideas as the visiting Eagles downed Glendora, 45-24, in the Baseline League finale on Friday at Citrus College.
Claremont 45, South Hills 28In a game in which they moved the ball almost at will, the only downer for the Wolfpack (6-4 overall, 2-3 Sierra League) in Friday’s 45-28 win over the Huskies is it came one day after they were eliminated from postseason contention.

BRACKETOLOGY: Here’s how I think the Mid-Valley playoff Division will shape up. The four at large should be Maranatha (7-2) (assuming Maranatha wins tonight), Pomona (6-4), South El Monte (7-3) and South Pasadena (6-4). I gave South Pas an edge over Sierra Vista. South Pasadena’s non-league win over Alhambra was convincing enough. WE HAVE UNTIL SUNDAY FOR THE DRAW, LETS SEE SOME OF YOUR MOCK BRACKETS IN THE SOUTHEAST, INLAND, MID-VALLEY??

Fred’s Mid-Valley Bracketology predictions
Top Bracket
1. Covina (9-1) vs. South Pasadena (6-4)
San Gabriel (6-4) vs. El Monte (7-3)
Cerritos Valley Christian (4-6) vs. La Puente (9-1)
4. Monrovia (7-3) vs. Pomona (6-4)
Bottom Half
3. San Dimas (8-2) vs. South El Monte (7-3)
Whittier Christian (6-3) vs. San Marino (7-3)
Azusa (7-3) vs. Alhambra (8-2)
2. Arroyo (9-1) vs. Maranatha (7-2)

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  • John Sampson

    Inland Divison Prediction

    CENTENNIAL #1Big 8 vs REDLANDS #3CBL
    CHINO HILLS#2 Siera vs CHAPARRAL #2 SWL
    RANCHO CUCA#2 Baseline vs DAMIEN #3Sierra
    REV#1CBL vs NORCO #4 Big 8

    UPLAND #1Baseline vs MURRIETA VALLEY #3SWL
    CHARTER OAK #1Sierra vs SANTIAGO #3Big 8
    NORTH #2Big 8 vs YUCAIPA #2CBL
    VISTA MURRIETA #1SWL vs LOS OSOS #3Baseline

  • Joe Amat

    Since no one wants to bit on the mock bracket – here’s one for you.

    The “First Fantasy Fish Bowl Bracket”

    Top 20 teams (Just like the NCAA D1 FCS Playoffs), top 4 get byes. Some teams moved a spot or two to avoid league teams meeting in the 1st round, sometimes to create fun (or sadistic) matchups

    Here are the Top 20 Power Rankings (based on who would beat the teams below them):
    :
    1. Bishop Amat
    2. Charter Oak
    3. West Covina
    4. Chino Hills
    5. Damien
    6. Covina
    7. Claremont
    8. Ayala
    9. South Hills
    10. Glendora
    11. Diamond Ranch
    12. Bonita
    13. San Dimas
    14. Pomona
    15. Los Altos
    16. Diamond Bar
    17. Arroyo
    18. La Puente
    19. El Monte
    20. Azusa

    Here is the bracket – you fill in the winners.
    **********
    Bishop Amat
    Diamond Bar
    Arroyo
    **********
    Diamond Ranch
    Ayala

    Bonita
    Damien
    **********
    Chino Hills
    San Dimas
    Azusa
    **********
    West Covina
    Pomona
    El Monte
    **********
    Covina
    South Hills

    Glendora
    Claremont
    **********
    Los Altos
    La Puente
    Charter Oak
    **********

  • Colt74

    I don’t think CIF will put San Dimas at 3 because they are not a league champ. But San Dimas will get dissed if Monrovia jumps to 3 because of being beaten by San Dimas.

    I guess we will know more on Sunday.

  • SaintsR4real

    Let me give it a spin…..

    Top 4:
    Covina
    Arroyo
    San Dimas
    Monrovia

    At Large:
    Pomona
    Maranantha
    S. El Monte
    S. Pasadena

    TOP
    VVL1 Covina vs
    RHL3 S. Pas.

    Oly1 W. Christ. vs
    Alm2 Alhambra

    Mont1 Azusa vs
    MVal2 El Monte

    RHL1 Monrovia vs
    VVL3 Pomona

    BOTTOM
    VVL2 San Dimas vs
    MVal3 S. El Monte

    Oly2 Val. Christ. vs
    Mont2 La Puente

    Alm1 San Gabriel vs
    RHL2 San Marino

    MVal1 Arroyo vs
    Oly3 Maranantha

    (considering that Duarte took a loss last night and Nantha wins tonite)

    Fred, what’s your take on above??

  • sgv scouting

    The Crespi vs Loyola game will be streamed live on IBNsports.com.

  • My Pal Joey

    My Pal Joey love your idea but…

    First things first…where’s Workman? Ouch!

    I think Damien gets the #4 spot after last nights games and Chino Hills gets #5…but let’s move forward.

    Since we’re on Fantasy Road what do you think the Lancers would do with Santiago at the helm? Seen Travis last night on Time Warner and he’s very very very good…and probably better than Rio..or is it the offense that separates the two from each other?

    Now seeing that you’re a Football “god” I’m wondering your opinion of WC…is it the offense that makes the backs or the backs that make the offense?

    This year I’ve seen the Lancers O/D Lines play outstanding yet I read so many comments stating they are the Lancers weakness…when in fact they’ve played outstanding in my opinion…what gives?

    BTW…as far as bloggers go I read tons of “Damien will win 3 games tops this year”…well they got things inverted in their crystal ball as the Spartans “lost” 3 and “won” 7 and really should have “won” 8. Got to say Gano really has the program going in the right direction.

    I do have a last question….what game are you going to night…or will you be in church wearing out the rosary beads…lol. Incredible that the Lancers are even in this spot given how many skilled players you guys had coming back.

    As for my Mustangs…we’re 7-2 going into tonight’s game with St. Anthony’s with close loses to Maranatha -3 and Whittier Christain -5.

    As with always…COACHING MATTERS.

  • coltfan97

    Saints 4 Real,

    Everything right except for the WC they will get either 4 or 5 seed!!!!! Your saying that WC is the number 8 seed? I don’t think so!!!!!

  • SaintsR4real

    Colt74,
    CIF has seeded 2nd place teams in the past. If they beat all teams above them and hold a strong SOS then it should be what they deserve.

    ARE YOU READY?? HERE WE GO!!
    Best of luck and hope to see you guys again!

    Pomona…. All the credit to you, you guys came out fired up and ready.

    Way to go SAINTS BOYZ, you bounced back like CHAMPIONS do!!

  • coltfan97

    To Saints 4 Real.

    I am not colt 74!!!!! The Colts are ready!!!!! Are you saying that WC doesn’t have the SOS? I think your wrong, and I think a lot of people would agree with me on this!!!! Like I said before WC is not a number 8 seed!!!! Best of luck to all teams that make the playoffs!!!

  • Colt74

    SaintsR4Real,
    I agree with you 100% that San Dimas SHOULD get the number 3 slot. I just have ZERO faith in CIF after last years pairings. Actually, I’m at about a -5 in faith after the way they paired Azusa up last year.

    They already showed my fears when they leap frog’d Monrovia over you guys a few weeks back.

  • Colt74

    FUN FACT:

    If Whittier Christian wins tonight ALL 6 Mid Valley Champions will be undefeated in their leagues this season.

    FUN FACT:

    If you took all of the red blood cells out of a person and laid them end to end…that person would probably die.

  • coltfan97

    I agree with 74!!!!! SD will get screw by CIF, and the only reason why I think that is SD is a second place team!!!! Do I think its right no, but CIF is not going to screw a 1st place team over a second place team!!!!!!! All I know is that a couple of teams including Monrovia might not be happy with there first round opponents!!!!!

  • FredJ

    The Saints, in my opinion, have to be the third place seed. If Covina’s No. 1 the Saints will automatically be on the bottom half, making them the three seed with Arroyo No. 2. That should push Monrovia to No. 4, setting up a brutal semifinal of Covina and Monrovia….

  • SaintsR4real

    Coltfan97,

    Fred is right on!

    There is no such thing as seeding after seed 4. The 4 at large play the 4 seeds and everyone in between is placed by SOS and how CIF thinks will fair good for all.

  • HUH???

    Joe Amat,

    Los Altos already beat your #8 and #11, So how is it based on who would beat the teams below them

  • Ron

    Anyone know where I can follow the Inland games tonight??

  • Colt74

    Fingers crossed for Bishop Amat Lancers tonight.

    Let’s keep it going!

  • Steve Ramirez

    JA: is this a SGVN tourney? If so, where’s La Habra, which would probably win it, or at least is in the top two.

  • Eric Davis – BHS’80

    Southeast CIF Bracket Prediciton

    1. West Covina
    16. Whittier

    9. Bellflower
    8. Burroughs

    5. La Serna
    12. Muir

    13. Los Altos
    4. La Mirada

    3. Arcadia
    14. California

    11. Bonita/Diamond Ranch
    6. Mayfair

    7. Diamond Ranch/Bonita
    10. Crescenta Valley

    15. Pasadena
    2. Santa Fe

    Good luck to all teams!!!

  • Colt74

    Saying it right now. Pomona can get snubbed from the playoffs.

    Here is the 4 at large CIF IMHO will pick:

    Maranatha 7-2 Olympic 3rd
    South Pasadena 6-4 Rio Hondo 3rd
    South El Monte 7-3 Mission Valley 3rd
    Sierra Vista 6-4 Montview 3rd

    IMHO Pomona deserves an at large over South Pasadena. Pomona is in a 7 team league and South Pasadena is in a 6 team league. South Pasadena is rated -1 and Pomona is rated 11.

    I side with Fred and Aram that CIF will pick a 3rd place Montview team for an at large, although South Pasadena deserves to be in more than Sierra Vista IMHO. Sierra Vista is rated at -13.5.

  • coltfan97

    If thats the case I will have no confidence in CIF!!!!! Pomona has a victory over Chino which is by far a better win than any win that SEM or SV has!!!!!!

  • coltfan97

    Saints4Real,

    CIF does seed everybody 1-16!!!!

  • Mid Valley Projections

    The at-large teams should be:

    Maranatha, Pomona (3rd place from two strongest leagues) then S. Pasadena and S. El Monte.

    Sierra Vista is in the conversation, but I don’t think they get in with a nonleague W over Keppel 21-14 and a L to Mountain View 14-16 (SEM beat 45-0)!

    The seeding should be:
    1 Covina
    2 Arroyo
    3 San Dimas
    4 Monrovia

    CIF could still move Arroyo to #4 and bump San Dimas and Monrovia to 2 and 3.

  • Amat Nation #1

    Today has got to be one of the most embarrassing days for the Amat Football program and for all of us in the Amat Nation.

    We’re praying for a “COIN-FLIP”…? Really…?

    How Victorious of the Amat Nation.

    We should stay home and come back next year!

  • Not Possible

    Sorry Coltfan97, but CIF can’t truly seed teams 1-16 and follow their rules per the CIF handbook.

    http://www.cifss.org/news_detail.php?id=1130&from_page=index

    Check out page 19 titled “How in the world did I ever draw them in the first round!”

    or as Azusa about last year! They try their best, but it is not possible to do that with the current rules. Maybe in a few years they change this to a true 1-16 field, but can’t as of right now. League opponents would play each other too early!

  • Amat Nation #1

    Joe Amat

    You need stop with this Power Ranking sh*t of yours.

    You are embarrassing the Amat Nation more than we already are.

    Any one who saw Charter Oak destroy Chino Hills last night will tell you that the Chargers are head and shoulders above any team in the SGV. You are being a fool by continuing to pretend that we have a better team when we clearly don’t!

    Be a man and admit it to the Chargers. Maybe we’ll get some respect back from the SGV.

    Mighty are the Blue Man Crew!

    Go Amat!

  • coltfan97

    Not Possible,

    Thank you for that information!!!! I can admit I was wrong!!!! I still think somebody is going to get screwed in the seeding process of the Mid Valley Division!!!!

  • Aaron

    Bonita didn’t get seeded last year even when they were ranked in the top four…However the path Bonita was given was as if it had been a seeded team. So I’d expect that to happen with SD.

  • SaintsR4real

    Coltfan97,

    Seeding and numberimg are 2 different things. Have you ever seen or heard them mention 16 seeds (and I dont mean rate or polls)?

  • Colt74

    Pomona SHOULD be in. It SHOULD be a no brainer. I just have an uneasy feeling leading up to Sunday morning.

  • coltfan97

    Colt 74

    I have that same gut feeling, but I think SD is going to get screwed!!! Do I like it no its not right!!!! I hope I am wrong!!!!!!! Monrovia should not be seeded in my mind!!!! Who have they beaten this year!!!! You can’t seed a team just on talent alone!!!!!

  • SaintsR4real

    Aaron,
    Pull your head oit of your a&&. If Bonita was seeded top 4, then they would have automatically been placed as seed 1-4. I checked and they werent.
    Stop being a Saint hater, your better than that.

  • Real Amat

    Amat Nation,

    We all know you’re not from Amat. You’re a hater under the guise of an Amat name. You’re not fooling anyone.

  • Colt74

    Monrovia deserves to be a Number 4 seed IMHO. I WANT Whittier Christian and Monrovia in our bracket.
    The reasons should be self evident.

    To win CIF would be like having an ice cold one on a hot day. Beating those two would be also having it in a frosty mug….
    :)

    But like coach T says, D2D ( day to day )…

  • real talk

    man ibnsports is wack not even working

  • Coin Flip

    I don’t like Amat, so I think I will Fly and Fly and when I land I will land for Sherman Oaks Notre Dame.

    Amat sucks and doesn’t deserve to “Participate” in the Pac 5 Playoffs!

    Happy Thanksgiving Amat Blow Hards!

  • Father Sandusky

    Please pray for us to win the Coin Flip! Its all we’ve got left this year!

    We’ll go into the playoffs through the back door if we have to. Please!

  • the cat

    When will Covina accomplish anything. Do they really want Monrovia. They will get their hat handed to them like they did last year against Whittier Christian.

  • coltfan97

    To cat,

    Last year is last year!!!!! Like the Rock say “JUST BRING IT”!!!!!!

  • the dog

    here kitty, kitty, kitty……

    cat…the other white meat…..

    Now starts another 101 year drought for Monrovia….

  • Cat’s a puss

    On any given Friday. . . . you reallly ought to lay off the catnip. Talking smack about things you dont know much about will only get you put down. Tough having distemper, aint it, puss?

  • 12th man

    Starting the 4th quarter!!!! WOW!!!!SERRA LEAGUE!!!…ALEMANY 7 NOTRE DAME 7…..LOYOLA 22 CRESPI 22…TALK ABOUT A GREAT FINISH TO THE SERRA LEAGUE!!

  • 12th man

    NOTRE DAME JUST SCORED 14-7 ND….

  • 12th man
  • If there’s a game

    So what’s the condition of Rio’s knee for next week?

  • 12th man

    ALEMANY GOES DEEP!!!!TD!! GAME TIED 14-14 8 MIN.LEFT!!

  • coltfan97

    It looks like Whittier Christian is going to lose tonight!!!! There down 25-14 in the 4th quarter!!!! What does that do to the Mid Valley Division???

  • 12th man

    CRESPI JUST SCORED…29-22

  • 12th man

    LOYOLA JUST SCORED!! ALL TIED UP 29-29

  • Mtownclown

    NOO need too talk smack and worry about seedings just shut up and let the boys play let the better teams win…it just seems like SD fans and Covina fans wanna gang up on Monrovia Y?..all this fuss about seedings makes u guys sound nervous about who your gonna play makes no sense….WISHING THE BEST OF LUCK too all teams that make c.i.f Def CHAMPS will be ready!!see you fri

  • 12th man

    ALEMANY 21 ND 14…1 MIN. LEFT

  • 12th man

    LOYOLA & CRESPI GOING INTO OVERTIME

  • 12th man

    FINAL ALEMANY 21 ND 14

  • oldschool

    the Serra league is the real deal.no blow outs ,very competitive games.

  • KICKERS …ARGHHHH !!!

    MISSED EXTRA POINT…DANNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG!!! HOW HARD IS IT TO KICK A FREAKIN EXTRA POINT !!!

  • Joe Amat

    FLIP!!!

  • WOW

    all Amat needs now is to win the coin flip.lets hope they get some luck this season..

  • Colt74

    Mtownclown,
    Shut up? Really? Hold that thought.

    Nothing nervous from any Covina or San Dimas fans on here that I can read. Only you telling us to shut up. Sounds like you are the one nervous to me. Too much pressure? And the shut up part…too bad you don’t follow your own advise on all the other blogs. Were not you the one that Observantcat just called an embarrassment to Monrovia? Just askin!

  • Amat Bully

    i dont get why Amat would want to win the coin flip it isnt like they’re going to win……What its the truth….but good luck winning it i hope you do.

  • My Pal Joey

    Don’t blog…stay on the rosary beads…lol

    Wow…talk about crazy !!

    So what now…and when?

  • Colt74

    Joe,
    If I could also have my toes crossed for you I would!

  • 12th man

    loyola wins in overtime!!!! coin flip!!!

  • Chance

    Friday Night Lights at its fullest. Sadly, I think this is the end for Amat’s season. It wasn’t meant to be.

  • In the huddle

    Lady Queen of Victory…

  • 12th man

    COIN FLIP TAKING PLACE AT ND HIGH SCHOOL AT 10:00 P.M. TONIGHT

  • Frank

    The Serra is insane! All games could of gone either way!

  • Joe Amat

    My Friend , they are gonna flip any minute

  • Cover It LIVE!!

    Fred any way of knowing who calls what…you know a play by play of the coin flips?

  • Amat Bully

    i hope Amat chooses heads because they been on their a$$es all year….lol….GOOD LUCK

  • Haha

    Amat lost on coin flip. ND advances. That last drive against ND will sting for a long time.

  • coltfan97

    It looks like Whittier Christian is going to lose tonight!!!! There down 25-14 in the 4th quarter!!!! What does that do to the Mid Valley Division???

  • Amat Bully

    hahahahahaha too bad Amat maybe next year the coin will land in favor for you…

  • fredJ

    That notre dame report not true…haven’t done flip yet..

  • Not Since 1995

    .

    Amat

    You gotta WIN the “Coin-Flip”. What am I gonna do without The Lousy Amat Lancers in 2011…?

    Lets go “Coin-Flip” Lancers…! Get R Done…

    .

  • Ed

    Sorry to say, but Serra League would be better represented without (No Rio)Bishop Amat!

  • Amat Bully

    Its like Amat just can’t win….dang…well goodnight and good luck next week to all who made it…

  • Mtownclown

    i wasnt telling u too “shut up” i was saying thats what Mtown is gonna do “shut up and play!” because at the end of the day none of our crap talk on these blogs matter its about what takes place on the field these upcoming fridays and sat ….Let the Best teams WIN! Enough said! geeshhh dont get all bunched up

  • Notre Dame #1

    Notre Dame WINS the “Coin-Flip”

    Sorry Bishop. Time to turn in your pads. Good night now…

    Happy Thanksgiving…

  • Ingenico for Life

    Have Jalen Moore from AMAT flip the coin cuz hes a bad MOFO!

  • Eric Davis – BHS’80

    Revised Southeast CIF Bracket Prediciton

    1. West Covina
    16. Whittier

    9. Bellflower
    8. Burroughs

    5. California
    12. Crescenta Valley

    13. Los Altos
    4. La Mirada

    3. Arcadia
    14. La Serna

    11. Bonita
    6. Mayfair

    7. Diamond Ranch
    10. Muir

    15. Pasadena
    2. Santa Fe

    Good luck to all teams!!!

  • Amat Bully

    so does that mean that
    Alemany-Loyola-Nd
    makes the playoffs? and if thats true then that also means that the only team BA beat in the Serra didnt even make playoffs….oh man this is getting sweeter by the minute….that one big victory you amat fans cling on to is at home with yall they didnt even make it LOL……..

  • 12th man

    fred any update????

  • WhiteFang

    Knowing how Hag called the wrong play aganist Notre Dame with two minutes left, he’ll probably call the wrong coin toss.

  • 12th man

    SERVITE TIED AT 35 WITH SM…1 MIN.LEFT!!

  • Ed

    Dont pop the bottle quite yet Bully!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram Tolegian

    They are still waiting to flip. Quit posting crap.

    Crespi has to send representative to ND High School to be present. They are coming from L.A. Valley College. Fred will post when it’s official.

  • FredJ

    I spoke with Hagerty, he’s awaiting a Crespi official to do the coin flip at Notre Dame…What a night for Hags … you know it’s his 25th wedding anniversary…..when we get the news, we’ll pass it on… don’t believe anything until I type it..

  • Ingenico for Life

    Hey Amat Bully:

    Did you get kicked out of Amat or go to public school and hated on them cuz your school couldnt compete with them?

  • Colt74

    Mtownclown,
    Agree. Let the teams play on the field. I’m all for talking up a team and bringing up stats and anything of the sort. As long as it’s not at the expense or ridicule of another team. Every team that takes the field deserves respect. I took your post as a jab at San Dimas and Covina. If you meant it another way and I misunderstood then I apologize.

  • Karma?

    Last time Amat participated on a coin flip was in 2005 when they beat Mater Dei 28-0 in the final game of the season. My prediction is that history repeats itself sadly and Amat loses the flip..

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram Tolegian

    Couldn’t have happened at a better place.

    Get healthy, Rio!

  • Joe Amat

    AMAT!

  • Heads I win Tails you lose

    What kind of coin are they using….check to make sure it’s legit.

  • Amat Bully

    Hey congrats Amat fans in a way its bitter sweet. its sweet because you made it but it gets bitter when you find out who your opponent is and knowing that you will have to go through another week of crying fans screaming and yelling at the press box oh and the fact that your going to LOSE…..BUT GOOD LUCK…

  • 12th man

    SERVITE GOING INTO OT!!

  • great for the sgv

    Colt74 said:

    Joe,
    If I could also have my toes crossed for you I would!

    Gee, what a sweetheart:)

  • Ed

    Sorry Bully, Gonna have to save it for later. LOL!

  • jcaz

    WTF ????????

    Are you serious ?

    Amat really won the coin flip ?

    Wow, what an incredible year this has been

  • 12th man

    SANTA MARGARITA STRIKES 1ST..IN OVERTIME!! 42-35 SERVITE’S TURN NOW~

  • Colt74

    Associated Press.

    A minor 2.3 earthquake took place in the San Gabriel Valley tonight at 10:29 Pacific time. Caltech has isolated the epicenter to La Puente, California.
    Initial reports are that the small quake was the result of people jumping up and down and dancing nude in the streets. Film at eleven.

  • Witness

    Suck it all you haters that have nothing better to do than talk down on teens. You know it hurts you to know that Amat is going to the playoffs.
    Losers

  • Frank

    Congratulations Amat, You guys couldnt do it the easy way! Exciting night in Serra league footbal. Happy Anniversary to coach Hagerty and wife.

  • Real talk

    Heeeeeeeellllll yaaaaaaa that’s what’s up!!!! Go Amat

  • Mtownclown

    Colt74
    Its cool …but yeah i meant no disrespect….but there are gonna be some tough 1st round c.i.f match ups

  • 12th man

    SERVITE ANSWERS THEY ARE THINKING OF GOING FOR TWO POINT CONVERSION FOR THE WIN…WAIT!!! TIME OUT CALLED

  • Ed

    You nailed it Aram. Karma is a *****!

  • Not A Happy Camper

    Well at least one Lance family isn’t very happy with this win. The Ruiz family has no excuses, or do they?

  • Real talk

    Rio……rio…….rio…,,,

  • joho

    Like I said:

    Alemany will beat Notre Dame

    Loyola will beat Crespi

    AMAT will win the coin toss…

    That’s all for now…

    GO AMAT!!!

  • Ed

    You nailed it Aram! Karma is a *****! Still praying for you Rio!

  • 12th man

    SERVITE PULLS IT OFF!! 43-42..WOW!! HOW MANY LIVES DO THE FRYARS HAVE?? EACH WEEK THEY PULL OUT A WIN WITH THE OPPONENTS ON THE VERGE OF AN UPSET!!

  • AMAT 73

    YES GO AMAT !!

  • joho

    Like I said:

    Alemany will beat Notre Dame

    Loyola will beat Crespi

    AMAT will win the coin toss…

    That’s all for now…

    GO AMAT!!!

  • Colt74

    Wilson gets their first win this week.
    Crespi and Notre Dame BOTH lose.
    Take it to the bank.
    November 6, 2011 7:45 PM
    :)

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    If Rio plays I would hate to have amat as a first round opponent. Any word on his availability?

  • Vin

    In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened.

  • coltfan97

    This is high school football at its best!!!!! I love it!!!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram Tolegian

    I spoke to Rio’s dad (story on my blog). It’s up in the air for Rio. Doctor and therapist have to decide, but he wants to play.

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    In a week with all these league championship games, Amat still finds a way to steal the headlines in a bye week. The tribune has to be jumping for joy about Amat making the playoffs. More hits on their website and more people reading their paper.

  • First round clowns!

    Why is everyone getting so excited, Amat is going to lose no matter who they play in the first round. First round clowns!

  • coltfan97

    Amat Alumni and Parent,

    That is an arrogant statement you posted! The Tribune doesnt evolve Amat!!!!

  • Crazy Comments

    You got to admit it’s kind of funny reading the comments after the coin flip. What team would be scared to face the Lancers who only won one game in league and needed a coin flip to get into the playoffs. Any wonder why people jump all over the Lancers?
    Maybe the Lancers get a rematch with the Friars. Now that would make for an entertaining week of blog comments.
    No disrespect to Rio but some Lancers fans make him out to be an all time Lancer great when in reality he’s not considering who’s actually played for the Lancers. He’s a play maker, a very good athlete but clearly not the best QB in the SGV much less CIF the past two years.
    That said, watch the Lancers win CIF going away.
    Any thoughts on who the Lancers might play?

  • Alumni 02

    It doesn’t matter if they’ll win or lose the first round. It’s just a great send-off for the seniors. Hopefully, Rio can play and nobody gets hurt.

  • oldschool

    when crespi missed the extra point and loyola scored and won with extra point,I knew Amat would win the toss ,so i bet 100 dollars . now we have to wait a week and see if Rio will play. we all know the team with Rio is a total different team. lets hope they dont get servite

  • 12th man

    Good News is that Amat reaches the playoffs!! The bad news is they mite face Servite or Long Beach Poly in the 1st round..& with Rio questionable I dont see the Lancers making any noise…CIF playoff bracket will be in on Sunday at 1:00 p.m. at http://www.cifss.org

  • 12th man

    If Amat & Charter Oak go down in the 1st round..Who has a better ranking at the end?? & West Covina & Covina pass them up as they go deep into the playoffs????

  • Hey Colt74

    u got any stock market hunches to share with all of us, u seem to be on a roll

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram Tolegian

    I realize that Amat will get a tough first-round game, but the flip side is that I wouldn’t want to play them. They’re kinda dangerous in the sense that the defense played really well in league and that they have a nice weapon like Jalen Moore and if Nine can get out there … and Shay makes some things happen … I know it’s a longshot, but I think Amat is more dangerous than people think.

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    Coltfan97. Call it an arrogant statement if you may but, no high school in this area is scrutinized more than Amat. I am not claiming they are the best team, but love them or hate them people like to know how they are doing. If they are doing well people will write how great they are. If they are doing poorly people can’t wait to bash them. It is just a fact that they are probably followed by more people than any other program in the area. It bodes well for the local media to have the most followed team in the playoffs. Because people either love them or they love to hate them.

  • LPFugly

    Colt74

    Associated Press.

    …and dancing nude in the streets… ????

    Dude, you are some kinda strange.

  • 12th man

    Amat Alumni and Parent,
    Is Amat like Miracle Whip??..You either love it or hate it!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram Tolegian

    Neither mine or Fred’s paychecks change by the amount of hits we get. So Amat being in or out doesn’t help or hurt the Tribune financially on any level.

    Just view this and our other blogs as us doing our part to transition the Trib into the digital age so that we can stay in business long after newspapers are extinct.

  • coltfan97

    To Amat Alumni and Parent,

    I dont hate Amat I want them to do well!!!! Their the only team in the PAC 5 and I want them to represent the SGV well!!!! I just thought it was an arrogant comment, but in a way your right!!!!

  • John

    So who won the South Hills Claremont game?

  • Colt74

    Aram by 1. Claremont wins over South Hills 45-28

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    12th man I would say Amat is like Howard Stern. If you hate miracle Whip you just leave it alone. I just think it is kind of funny how much people follow this team. Obviously I went there and my kids go there so I follow the team. I just don’t understand how people with no ties to that school can’t wait to comment about them. Once again I am not saying they are the best but definitely nobody moves the needle like they do.

  • 12th man

    I would love to see Amat draw Long Beach Poly in the 1st round..A rematch of the 2008 1st rd thriller..Amat would match up good against LBP as they like to run the ball..I think BA defense could make it intresting~

  • John

    Why is the Daily News reporting Crespi won the flip? http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19320903

    “Notre Dame (6-4, 1-3), wound up on the short end of a three way coin flip with Bishop Amat and Crespi to determine the third and final playoff spot that went to Crespi.”

  • ramirez

    Not a happy camper:

    i guess you were one of those super studs who played through ten injuries, lost an eye and scored 6 touch downs to win your city championship. Give me a break you super stud. Climb of your high chair and pull your high school jersey over your boiler stomach and past that fat head.

    There is no need to compare the 2 quarterbacks as they both have had an experience they will never forget through their high school years. Obviously you can’t forget yours!

  • SGV sucks besides AMAT

    Amat hater and to whoever freakin else that hates on AMAT nation:
    like it or not amat made it in the playoffs, you could be decent human beings to wish TEENAGERS good luck and stop being BXTCHES, like honestly do you ever stop and think that you wish TEENAGERS like your own sons and daughters bad wishes??? grow up, amat kids have worked hard all year and would take it to ANY sgv team, you people don’t realize how tough Serra league teams are and how much time it takes to prepare for them

  • 12th man

    John,
    you read the wrong article…Amat won the flip & the head to head battle vs Crespi..So Amat advances~

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19320900

  • Anonymous

    SGV sucks besides AMAT
    Look at your screen name and you wonder why people is starting to dislike Amat.

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    Aram, thank god people who work at a newspaper don’t get paid based on hits or newspaper sales. A lotmontview of peoplefunny would besay working for free.

    I do not look forward to the day print media will no longer exist, but I know that day is fast approaching. I just know that most if not all students rather see their name published in the print media rather than a blog. You can have the same story on the internet, but something about a story being in print just gives it a tad more credibility and validation.validations

    That being said you have to admit the blogs are a little more entertaining when Amat is relevant.

  • Amat Alumni and Parent

    Sorry about the last post. I have no idea how it came out like that.

  • Amat –>—–

    1. Servite (9-1) 1st Trinity

    Wilson (5-5) 4th Moore

    Hunington Beach 2nd Sunset

    Loyola (8-2) 2nd Serra

    Edison (8-2) Sunset 1st

    Bishop Amat (6-4) Serra 3rd

    Cabrillo (7-3) 3rd Moore

    4. San Clemente (9-1) SC 2nd

    3.Long Beach Poly (8-2) Moore 1

    Tesoro (6-4) South Coast 3

    Alemany (8-2) Serra 1st

    St. John Bosco (7-3) Trinity 3rd

    Lakewood (7-3) 2nd Moore League

    Santa margarita (8-2) Trinity 2

    Newport Harbor (6-4) Sunset 3rd

    2. Mission Viejo (8-2) SC 1st

  • Amat –>—–

    1. Servite (9-1) 1st Trinity

    Wilson (5-5) 4th Moore

    Hunington Beach 2nd Sunset

    Loyola (8-2) 2nd Serra

    Edison (8-2) Sunset 1st

    Bishop Amat (6-4) Serra 3rd

    Cabrillo (7-3) 3rd Moore

    4. San Clemente (9-1) SC 2nd

    3.Long Beach Poly (8-2) Moore 1

    Tesoro (6-4) South Coast 3

    Alemany (8-2) Serra 1st

    St. John Bosco (7-3) Trinity 3rd

    Lakewood (7-3) 2nd Moore League

    Santa margarita (8-2) Trinity 2

    Newport Harbor (6-4) Sunset 3rd

    2. Mission Viejo (8-2) SC 1st

  • Amat –>—–

    1. Servite (9-1) 1st Trinity

    Wilson (5-5) 4th Moore

    Hunington Beach 2nd Sunset

    Loyola (8-2) 2nd Serra

    Edison (8-2) Sunset 1st

    Bishop Amat (6-4) Serra 3rd

    Cabrillo (7-3) 3rd Moore

    4. San Clemente (9-1) SC 2nd

    3.Long Beach Poly (8-2) Moore 1

    Tesoro (6-4) South Coast 3

    Alemany (8-2) Serra 1st

    St. John Bosco (7-3) Trinity 3rd

    Lakewood (7-3) 2nd Moore League

    Santa margarita (8-2) Trinity 2

    Newport Harbor (6-4) Sunset 3rd

    2. Mission Viejo (8-2) SC 1st

  • Amat

    AMAT WILL SHINE TONIGHT!!!

  • reality

    A team should never be excluded from the play-offs based on a coin flip after a season of hard play. You could base it on something as simple as the team with fewest personal fouls or best turn-over ratio. Anything but a stupid coin-flip. That is just wrong and lazy. Friday Night Lights did not depict the losing teams and how d they felt. Sorry boys, but your out because of bad juju. Crazy

  • GoAmat

    WHO ARE WE???? WE ARE AMAT!!!! ENOUGH SAID!!! Congrats coach and team!!!

  • GoAmat

    ALL EYES ON AMAT!

  • smallcitymc

    Wow! Just wow…

  • Lance R

    My oh My were in! Coin flip, tug of war, jacks, does not matter were in. To the haters which I should not give you the time of day, you deep down are closet Amat fans because you read about us and comment about us so much you are a follower that loves to talk Amat. So much for that. Win or Lose we live to play another day and that is exciting for the team (especially seniors), Parents, Alumni and fans. Hagerty and staff get another crack at it and we know how they almost pulled that miracle off vs Poly a few years ago. This Hagerty can coach and should we lose please parents of seniors dont be calling for Hagerty dismissal. Were in live and die and support our coach. This was a game of texas hold em with Crespi and ND and amat just drew the better river card. Speaking of River cards will our real River card play is the next question. Rio Ruiz? Fred and Aram write it up boys he is coming to play or is he not. Hater are going to love reading this.

  • Something is missing!

    Maybe Aram or Fred or anyone that follows Amat football can share with all their faithful readers evidence, like stats, big game win, put team on his back, something, on why they think Rio Ruiz is a stud QB. The way he is portrayed in this blog, you would think he would be a highly recruited college QB. I would like anyone to share a stud moment in a big game that Rio Ruiz has had in his two years as a starter against someone that mattered. The reason Jerry Mac was considered to be a stud is he won some big games. His numbers werent off the charts, didn’t have the big arm, wasn’t fast, but he managed the offense and made plays when he was suppose to. There isn’t any evidence that “nine” has done anything to warrants stud status or even a nick name. Win big game, off the chart numbers, something. Great kid, stud baseball player, yes. But football? If you look at the way Hagerty is calling the offense this season, the most important plays (3rd&4th down etc), the ball has been handed off to Jalen. If he were all that do you think this would be the case. How many times, has Hagerty put the ball in Rio’s hands this season? Check the numbers. Coincidence? His dad must have scratching his head last week when Hagerty did put the ball in the youngsters hands last week, on the most important play of the year. All year up until that point the ball had always been given to Jalen when Amat needed it. I think that speaks volumes, about Rio and the sophomore, especially to those of you who really know football.

  • Playoff Bound

    I would like to extend my congratulations to the coin, for winning the big game that the Lancers could not.

    Good luck in the Pac 5 playoffs, coin. You earned it.

  • just askin’

    Playoffbound, would you say the me thing to Crespi, or ND if they won the flip? What “big game” would they have won.

  • P-Town

    Aran you are correct in every aspect of the summer blogging, as far as Pomona being hyped up above and beyond their potential. Pomona was looking for exposure so their sons could feel part of a great league in the valleys most popular division. At times things got hairy between you and M.S. even when M.S. was not the one attacking you. It’s all blogging and it comes with the territory. And as far as gettin Z fired you are totally unaware to the extremes M.S. went through to protect the program. Anyone would be able to blame him for Wilson’s melt down, but in reality he was ran out of W. for defending the program including Z. Z should know by now who had him fired.. Here’s a clue, he bragged about it at Wilson this season, and he had issues because of his son not able to start between the guards.. Aram you are like a columnist, you need thick skin, let bygones be bygones. The real season starts now. Pomona will do their best to be the last man standing…….

  • Fred Robledo

    Something missing, Amat is 15-4 with Rio as a starting QB, basically 0-2 without him the past two games with an offense that has struggled terribly. Look, he was never going to have numbers like other pass happy teams, not with an equally dangerous runner in the backfield in Moore. Plus, Charter Oak, Arroyo, teams like that, they’re pass happy, which is why you wouldn’t dare compare Charter Oak or Arroyo’s running game to Amat. Not even close. Rivera threw 43 times on Friday for Arroyo. Rio might throw 43 times over three games, which isn’t a bad thing, that’s Amat’s wear-you-down offense. Last year Amat’s offense (statistically) was one of the best in team history, and Rio had a few games, particularly against Notre Dame, where he could of had the single best game of all time in an Amat uniform if he played some of the second half, but in like most blowouts, he never saw the fourth quarter. What happened to Amat last year in Week 10 and the playoffs wasn’t so much their offense, but their defense. They didn’t lose to Alemany in last year’s Serra title because the Lancers’ offense failed, they lost 38-30 because their secondary kept giving up big plays…In the playoffs against Tesoro, Amat scored three TDs and lost, 30-21, but again, they gave up 30 POINTS. In that particular game, Rio had a tough night, and that’s what people remember, I get that. And a lot of that is our doing, because that’s where I agree with you, we hype them up, and when they don’t have the feel-good ending, you come on a write stuff like this. That’s sports

  • fb102

    Something is missing!, excellent points

    Arum, the REST of the SGV Newsgroup staff and EVERYONE else, please do not turn the FOCUS of Amats playoff game(s) on the status of RR.

    I DO realize that having RR in the game probably gives Amat a better CHANCE to win game(s), BUTwhat about the rest of the T E A M? One PLAYER alone CANNOT win a game by himself.

    Whatever happens next week in practice will determine who plays in the game. THAT is how Hags and the coaching staff choose who plays. IF it is RR, fine, if it is Koa H. fine too.

    To parents of players, let your sons ENJOY this experience AND put away all of your axes[to grind] and support the coaching staff/program for the playoff run.

    I am hoping the Lancers come out and play to the best of their abilities on Offrense, Defense and Special teams and leave it ALL on the FIELD.

  • Playoff Bound

    Yes, I would say that. Any division that includes LAST PLACE FINISHERS in the playoffs is a joke.

    I can’t believe that all you have to say for your LAST PLACE LANCERS is basically, “The other guys didn’t win any big games either.” I hope you remember that next time you or any of your bishop nation pals try to say that the local teams don’t win any big games. This season, bishop didn’t win any big games either (your logic, not mine).

    Good luck in the playoffs. It will certainly be a tough draw for the lancers because they finished in LAST PLACE. I suggest bringing along your lucky coin.

  • just askin’

    Playoff bound, I’d say the Crespi win was a big league win. Can you name another team in the SGV that has a win as “good”?

  • Fred Robledo

    The playoffs just aren’t the same without Amat … team didn’t even play and we’ll probably have 200 comments by the end of the night.

  • Fred Robledo

    Matter of fact, I checked our blog count last night, biggest hit count of all Friday nights this season on a night when virtually everyone was off.

  • Playoff Bound

    Amat’s win over last place Crespi is no better than Damien’s win over last place JSerra(which is in the tougher Trinity League).

    I doubt that you or anyone else at Amat will be willing to give the credit to another team for basically the same “big win”.

  • great for the sgv

    coltfan97 said:
    To Amat Alumni and Parent,

    I dont hate Amat I want them to do well!!!! Their the only team in the PAC 5 and I want them to represent the SGV well!!!! I just thought it was an arrogant comment, but in a way your right!!!!

    Oh!!! OK!!! I!!! get!!! your!!! point!!!

  • Juan Lennon

    To Sherman Oaks Notre Dame….Instant Karma’s gonna get you……and it did!

    Playoff Bound….Are you really comparing Crespi, Loyola, ND and Alemany to the Sierra League? Congrats on the Big Win over JSerra, it was a good win BUT…. ANY of the BOTTOM THREE in the SERRA runs deep in your bracket if not eventually winning the whole thing. Enjoy the win and leave it at that. Consider your “win” duly noted.

  • sowhat

    What’s your point, u comparing Damien to Amat…they played that game pal, 28-7, Amat beat ‘em worse than Charter Oak or anyone else this season….would someone, anyone, please answer the question, who has beaten a better opponent than Crespi in the SGV? Nobody!!! Even West Covina got blown out by Loyola .. Amat hung with a sophomore at QB after Rio got hurt.

  • Frank

    There are some good comments and I agree with some or in partial agreement. Yet some people are just in here with an agenda to bash Amat or Rio, I agree RR is not the best QB in the valley or in Amats history. I thought Jerry Mac was pretty solid a couple years ago. Yet most schools would love to have Rio as their QB. I actually find it funny that Amats offense has struggled so much this year, they are most of the same guys from last year. Where as the defense has some newer guys but have played outstanding. Not sure if Amat coaching has spent too much time trying to out guess their opponents and instead of doing what they would normally do. I think Koa has a lot of potential and Maybe Amat should of allowed him a lot more work this year, and used Rio as a receiver and safety. But really when you look at what Rio did last year you would only think this year would of been even better for its offense, instead its been worse. Those are things you cant predict.
    Now as of playoffs this is an important game especially if Rio doesn’t play, this game is important for Koa to get some playoff experience in the PAC-5 before next year. The outcome is not as important as the experience, don’t get me wrong Amat wants to win and go as far as they can. If Rio is ready that is great but if not AMat will be ready anyway.
    You ask why had Rio gotten so much hype? I would say some people are just made for the media or have an innate ability to deal with it and all of its positives and negatives. Yes there are definitely people as good as him or better who have gotten little or no hype, but for some reason hes been a magnet for the media and luckily for him he can handle the pressure.

  • just sayin’

    anyone comparing JSerra to Crespi needs to have their blog priveleges revoked

  • Something is missing!

    Fred, you also have some excellent points. However, they seem to bolster the argument that I am making. Amat has had dangerous runners Gaise, Anderson, Moore, and prides itself on the run game, if that the case, how has Rio obtained his status. The 15-4 record came from a ball controll run game. If you look closely at the few moments in big games when Amat needed a play from the QB spot (Tesoro), it didnt happen. I know it was one of his first playoff games, and young QBs make mistakes. Im not here to put student athlete down, Rio is a great high school student athlete, and he will be a great ambassador for Amat. But to be considered a great or even good you evidence to back it up. That is done on the field, and more importantly in big games. Rio would probably put up big numbers if in offense like Arroyo or C.O.(maybe), that’s a big IF. And lastly, I believe Rio played the first half of the Loyola, except the last play of the half, Amat managed 3 points hm!

  • General Turgidson

    Well men, it has been quite some time since I have been here…

    The Amat situation is absolutely unbelievable. First, I can’t understand how Hagerty could have the GALL to complain about not having an early coin toss. YOU LOST! YOU DIDN’T GET IT DONE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. How can you dictate any terms or conditions?

    Second, you CANNOT be proud about this. AMAT got in to the playoffs on SHEER LUCK. You have permission to feel relieved, shocked, flabbergasted, discombobulated… but not proud. You are a longer THUMBNAIL away from getting the wrong toss and being out. Don’t be proud. Especially considering what you claim to be.

    Lastly, old number “9″ was never that good. How can you be so worried he wont be there? You will lose in the first round either way. How does the holy “9″ make any difference?

    With all of that being said… leave it to AMAT to make it all the way. As improbable is it is, as odd as it is, I do believe there is still some magic at AMAT. It is NOT because of Hagerty or holy “9″… they have both proved that numerous times. I am not a superstitious person, but you cannot deny that there is something special at AMAT. Who knows… maybe it will show up and save this mediocre bunch yet. It sure as hell showed up last night!

    That is all.
    Thus spake THE GENERAL.

  • Jaun Lennon

    Somethings missing…so what’s your point? Why did you feel the need to bring the subject up? What are you getting out of pointing this out? Tell us why you are so “disturbed” by people thinking that RR is a “great” Amat QB?

  • a non sgv fan

    Great! Must be a lot of Methane Gas in the Bowl because the “Turd” has floated back up to the top of the water.

  • John

    “fb102 said: BUTwhat about the rest of the T E A M? One PLAYER alone CANNOT win a game by himself.”
    True, but you should ask the Colts about Peyton Manning. Not comparing Rio to Peyton but when you lose your starting qb, it changes things.

    Frank,
    I’m not surprised the offense struggled this year because of the new line. Last year’s squad was bigger and more experienced.
    I believe the defense got better because they actually had the same players from last year. The backfield of Blue, Alcantara, Daniels, Montes were all sophomores and now have an extra year under their belt. I’ve always said the Amat secondary is the best in the Serra and probably the better group in the PAC 5. They’ve had at least one interception in the past 7 games and they more than held their own against offenses with D1 recruits.

  • Fred Robledo

    Something is missing, one final point on Amat, which always has been Running Back High, only Pat Haden (1968-70) and John Sciarra (1971) were named ALL CIF quarterbacks from Amat. In fact, Haden owns Amat’s record for TD passes in a career with 82. You know what’s second? 35 by Zach Zertuche from 1988-90. Now, compare that to Rivera, who already has 32 TD passes this season alone for Arroyo. Ruiz has 28 career TD passes, which ties him for third all-time with Daniel Robles, who had 28 TDs from 2003-05 — so yes, though the total isn’t eye-opening, in Amat history, Ruiz will go down as one of the top five QBs statistically of all time. Rio has 3,038 career passing yards, which places him fifth-all time Lancer behind Zertuche’s 3,166 yards from 1988-90. If Rio doesn’t get hurt, he probably passes Zertuche. With the exception of Haden, all of Amat’s great teams and championship teams won because of great RBs and defense, that’s their M.O. So, if you’re waiting for Rio to dazzle you with flashy numbers, that’s hasn’t been the Amat way.

  • great for the sgv

    So can we expect a feature in tomorrows paper about the “coin of the week” Very surprised there isn’t an exclusive thread detailing the flight of the coin!

  • Flip this

    Who cares about Amats coin flip, it’s time to make changes once again at Glendora immediately!

  • Joe Amat

    In retrospect, Amat played 5 1st place teams and 9 teams that were in the playoff hunt on the final day of the season.

    Garfield – tied for 1st place in Eastern League D1 CIF-City
    Servite – undefeated 1st place in Trinity League
    La Mirada – tied for 1st place in Suburban League
    Damien – after seeing Chino Hills disappointing performance, no question the 2nd best team in Sierra
    Cathedral – awful season after losing QB that had thrown for 800+yds in first 2 games
    Venice – undefeated 1st place in Western League D1 CIF-City (#4 seed)

    Serra league was insane. Alemany’s 14 pt win over Loyola and Amat’s 14 pt win over Crespi were the largest margins of victory in any game. 7 of the 10 games played were decided by a touchdown or less. Ther’s a fine line and every play counts. Alemany and Loyola made more of them, the other 3 left it to chance, and the Lancers were fortunate.

    However, to call it a “miracle” is a bit of a stretch. The two higher ranked teams, who also beat Amat, won games they were expected by most to win – then it was a 1 in 3 chance. Fortunate…but hardly a “miracle”

    Certainly a little “retribution” for *losing* the 3 way flip in our final year before the Orange County Nepotism Act of 2006 that banished us and Loyola from behind the Orange Curtain.

    That was a year we had a better record than Santa Margarita, beat Loyola who won CIF that year – but again we dropped the ball against St John Bosco that would have sealed 3rd place.

    Not only did they need a flip to determine 3rd place, but during the days of the at-large berths, the league had to decide 4th as well. The flip put Amat in 5th behind Santa Margarita who got the berth with a worse overall record.

    I for one, don’t feel bad about getting in this way – because the cleat has been on the other foot too. I do, however feel like there should be some sort of objective criteria to decide, instead of a flip. I’m just not certain what that criteria should be.

    Good luck to all next week – except who the Lancers are matched up with.

  • Lancelot

    And yet….They all feel like they have to say something about AMAT!!!!!
    THIS IS CLASSIC SGV….Amat Haters can’t stop talking about AMAT! Amat is this…Amat is that….Amat is lucky….Amat coin flip….Amat’s QB….HA,HA,HAAA!!!!!

    FRED, I for one would love to read an expose on the COIN that won the flip for us…That thread would probably get more hits than any other topic about the SGV too!!!! HA, HA, HAAA!!!!

  • Fred Robledo

    On the whole Rio issue, this all started in 2008, before Rio arrived at Amat when I wrote on the blog “http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2008/07/the_next_great.html): “From everything I hear the 6-foot freshman-to-be could start on Bishop Amat’s baseball team right now, and could be starting at quarterback when he’s a sophomore. I have some close friends who know the kid very well and they can’t wait to follow his high school career. All they keep telling me is he’s the next “Great One.” I mentioned his name to Lancers baseball coach Andy Nieto, and his eyes lit up. He said everything I’ve heard is legit, and many more think he could go Div. I in baseball or football, and that it’s all up to him. He’s a baseball player first, but he’s excited about playing football at Amat too.” — Looking back, he lived up to the hype and then some. You all know about the baseball, he’s already won a title, was the CIF and ESPN California junior of the year, is considered a first-round draft pick and USA National team selection, AND he’s has had a pretty good football career, winning a Serra League title in 2009 and having a career football record of 25-8. You can nit pick if you want, but c’mon.

  • No Hate Just Wondering

    So Fred are you saying that Hagerty’s offense, or the one he implemented, didn’t make use of all of Rio’s talents? On the other hand when you compare Rio and Travis you see how CO has maximized Santiago’s skill set by surrounding him with speed, size and a spread offense. PLUS Tarvis clearly improve every single season. I still never understood why Hagerty didn’t do the same considering he knew what was coming down the pike. As far as any one really hating on Rio that’s Fool’s Gold as any one with a brain knows Rio is a talent, especially after he lit up a Serra team for 300 plus and had a string of consecutive completions. So the argument, for entertainment purposes only, is whether Hagerty used Rio’s talents properly by using those talented DBs on offense as well..heck maybe they do. Also one could argue Travis starting over Rio if both were lancers.

    Make that a jumping off point for discussion and we can all have a civilized time. My opinion, from the outside looking in, is Rio is more LeBron than DWade….Rio being Lebron and Travis being DWade.

  • Just thinkin!

    You know whats funny is, I believe Travis and Rio did play together in JAA at C.O. and if im not mistaken Travis won the job. Do you think it would have been different if they were at the same HS same time?

  • Fred Robledo

    Just wondering, you can say anything in hindsight, but when you can run consistently with a back like Moore, it’s a tough call how that balance works out. It’s sort of how Charter Oak used Chris Allen to win the 2008 title, with a steady dose of Adam Muema. The Chargers this season are totally built around Santiago, he’s their guy and they’re going to live and die with him, and that’s what they should do, it works for them. But that’s where the discussion stops, no Travis-Rio comparison back-and-forth, that tends to get to ugly, especially over the weekend when I’m trying to stay away from the blog ..

  • Real talk

    @Fred my question to you and has been my question all year is that do you think it is time to change the Amat way meaning some no huddle, want to say a wing t or something that keeps the defense guessing. Just like you said Amat MO is to run run run everyone knows that. I would like to see more designed runs for Rio and have him line up as receiver. We know we don’t have the size on the o line to let him just sit back there and throw the ball roll him out if the pocket sometimes. I think your d is good. Just think we need some get the ball out quick plays. I think everyone is hating on Amat because they know that they are more dangerous then pepole think and do not want them to make deep in the playoffs then that means the are second to Amat again. You should open a all Amat haters here thread so they have a place to say things and have pepole that care what they are saying. Like I said all year IF YOUR NOT HATED YOUR A NOBODY. Hating is a reflection of your short comings. Haters going to hate.

  • Joe Amat

    Really, the no-huddle, throw it around, trick play thing is in vogue and fun to watch, but who wins big with that? Are you going to beat the top teams in the division playing that way? I don’t think so.

    So, if that’s where you want to get to, come hell-or-high-water you have to be persistent and prepare to beat the best teams and develop an attitude if toughness – which includes establishing the run and a great defense.

  • Fred Robledo

    Look at West Covina, they’ve done pretty well without quarterbacks that put up numbers.

  • Real talk

    Thanks for the Input guys. I see your guys point and would have no problem with it if had the size that we had back in the days. I just feel that we should be less predictable on what we are trying to run .

  • Amat!!!

    Fred.. I have to say I was thinking the same thing “THROW THE BALL”
    LET’S GO LANCERS… its time to air it out! Throw it and I promise 1 will catch it!

  • Joe Amat

    100% serious right now. An absolute shame that programs like Crespi, Notre Dame, Mater Dei, Orange Lutheran, and Los Alamitos are NOT in the playoffs in the Pac 5. Some people with No Sense will judge their program based in that.

    Mater Dei beats Edison, Santa Margarita and loses by a score to Centennial and Servite – but they’re at home
    Orange Lutheran beats La Habra, hammers Los Osos, dominates Tustin – also at home.
    Notre Dame rolls over Serra (who people talk about like they’re amazing) and ND takes the double whammy last night losing-then losing the flip and will stay at home.

    The Pac 5 is ridiculous. Yet, that’s why we all love it. You know when you get into it. I can GUARANTEE that not ONE of those schools would have it any other way and want to drop to a lower division to play another day. Some of you may disagree (Aram) but it’s just in the DNA. Not for everyone, but it is what it is.

  • Not so good

    My prediction is that the Serra teams all loose in the 1st round. The Serra league strength is that the bottom teams are good, the weakness of the league is that the top teams aren’t great. If Alemany gets matched up against a 3rd place Trinity team in John Bosco they will loose. Amat is likely to get LB Poly on the road, which will be a not so close loss. If Loyola is lucky they will get a team like Edison or Lakewood, but both will be difficult teams to beat. If Loyola is unlucky they will get someone like Santa Margarita in which case they will get blown out. The truth of the matter is that the Serra is weak at the top when compared to other Pac-5 playoff teams and 0-3 in the playoffs is very possible.

  • Joe Amat

    Just for kicks and giggles while watching USC/Washington

    (not comparing the two players potential, just stats)

    R. Ruiz
    ’10 134/215 2000 yds 19 TD 7 INT QB=109
    ’11 94/150 1038 yds 9 TDs 2 INT QB=98

    Matt Barkley
    ’07 89/156 1349 yds 11 TDs 5 INT QB=96
    ’08 176/322 2877 yds 23 TD 18 INT QB=85

  • X’s and O’s

    Fred,

    The size of the hit count on a Friday night when everyone was off just goes to show how many coaches and players look at the blog on their free time. A usual Friday night and practice week is not free time, however.

  • COChargerfan

    Always love the Pac-5 is the greatest thing on Earth argument. The truth is that getting wins and qualifying for the playoffs is tough across every division and is not something exclusive to Pac-5 participants

    As to the Pac-5 being amazing, not so fast. Joe, have you already forgotten that Upland beat Loyola, Alemany lost to JW North, Crespi lost to Vista Murrieta and Notre Dame lost to D4 Chaminade? And LB Poly got beat by Mission Viejo who was beaten by REV.

    Want more? Well, Los Alamitos lost to a 5-5 Newport Harbor team and Huntington Beachwho lost to D9 Corona Del Marthats D9 for those that werent paying attention. BTW, HB is 8-2 overall and their only Sunset League loss was to Edison by a 20-14 score.

    So how good is Orange Lutheran? Sure they beat Los Osos (is 36-21 a hammering?) but lets not forget that they lost to JSerra 31-14a team that Damien beat. And Mater Dei played a few good games but they got blanked by Orange Lutheran so their greatness is open to a lot of questions. And Los Osos only beat South Hills by a field goal and SH went 0-5 in the Sierra.

    Weve been looking at most of the teams at the TOP of the Pac-5should we now talk about Millikan (ranked 739 in State), Marina (563), Dana Hills (191), Compton (575), Fountain Valley (262), JSerra (165), Jordan (401) and Wilson (314)? The truth is that 1/3rd of the Pac-5 is ridiculously mediocre.

    Bottom line is the Pac-5 and Serra are not so impressive for those that dont spend their days sipping on the Kool-Aid.

    Great job CO on a Sierra League title. Congratulations also to Damien who have silenced their critics, for now? And finally, congratulations to Amat on making the playoffs and who cares how you got in because youre in and that is all that matters.

  • Joe Amat

    COChargerfan,

    NO, we are NOT talking about the top of the Pac 5. We are talking about the teams that DID NOT EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!! That was my point. Good teams sitting at home.

    I also love how you put words in other peoples mouths or read between some lines. “Greatest thing on earth?” “Amazing?” Were those words written anywhere?

    YOU, however, are talking about the top of the Inland Division. YOU are talking about teams that may be seeded on Sunday. I’m talking about teams that are sitting at home. And this has been my argument with you since the beginning.

    Here’s your project. Name the best FIVE teams that did NOT make your Inland Divisions playoffs. Here are some to choose from: Etiwanda, Glendora, Claremont, Miller, Great Oak, Temecula Valley, Riverside Poly, or Roosevelt (CO’s best non-league win?!?). You choose. Then compare them with the teams I just mentioned.

    Or better yet – just suggest that Lou schedule some of those 5 “mediocre” Pac 5 schools. They would then be the BEST teams on your schedule.

  • Joe Amat

    …and since you want to talk about the BOTTOM of the Pac 5 – let’s compare them with the BOTTOM of the Inland

    (this should be fun!)

    Millikan (739) … Fontana 819
    Marina (563) … King 634
    Compton (575)… Alta Loma 600
    Jordan (401) … Ike 409
    Wilson (314) … Corona 342
    Fountain Valley (262)… Poly 344
    Dana Hills (191) … Murrietta Mesa 337
    JSerra (165) … Sierra League foe Ayala 311 (in playoffs contention on the last night of the season – boy it IS hard to get in!)

    …thenjsut for fun -here’s three more for good measure Sierra League foe South Hills at 286 CO first game matchup Glendora at 253, and CO’s signature Inland win Roosevelt at 242!

    You were saying?!? LOL!!!

  • Give it a rest …….

    Joe,

    You didn’t just compare Matt Barkley and Rio Ruiz did you.

    Well based on that comparsion I guess that Arroyo qb is first round pick in the NFL draft.

    Bottom line there are many intangibles, in being a quarterback proven by your comparsion. Rio Ruiz doesn’t have them and Matt Barkley does.

  • Joe Amat

    Did you read at all? Amazes me the selective comprehension of some readers. I’ll repeat it for you.

    ****(not comparing the two players potential, just stats)***

    The stats can be compared because level of competition is comparable. The players ability and potential were not the topic – as stated.

  • Joe Amat

    … and no – you can not compare statistics across divisions. Otherwise MAtt Fregoso from Rosemead and Giovanni Rivera from Sierra Vista were the best running back in the valley last year. But I bet you’d take Moore or Soloman?

  • ReaL talk

    I think that the SGV teams need to stick together for the reasons stated on here about the inland teams. You see they are saying SGV is soft and not up to par with other Divisions. I think all SGV is doing good I still Feel Amat still has yet to really click but it is when the whole well who do you play? And the we are the best in SGV stuff gets everyone upset. It is the SGV against the other teams. I still feel the inland has a advantage on just enrollment of the schools those schools are huge and better pickings.

  • http://www.twitter.com/SGVtylerd tDro

    For reference, Amat’s last game…

    http://youtu.be/t-CjOy7x5jQ

    What an amazing turn of events for the Lancers.. Gotta say it’s good for the SGV when Amat is in the playoffs. Hard to argue that.

  • Mayhem

    Congratulations to Amat on the “coin flip” victory last night. The loud cheers and applauds that your heard from both Bellflower and the OC were from the three Trinity League playoff schools who have all bravely stepped up and told the CIF that they would “take one for the league” and play Amat in the first round. With a little more investigative research, Fred might find that Troy Thomas actually supplied that “special” coin last night. The path to the PAC5 championship just got a little easier last night and on behalf of the Trinity League, we thank you!!!!!

  • Real talk

    @ mayham I was thinking the same thing I hope Amat plays a trinity team better for us. No thank you lol

  • Joe Amat

    Let’s not forget that even though Amat was the team that got in with a 3 way tie coin flip in what the CIF will determine is the 2nd toughest league behind the Trinity, they will not be the 16th team.

    While CIF does not seed 1-16 and follows the “formula”, the teams ranked behind Amat are really Lakewood, Cabrillo, Wilson, and Newport Harbor. Whoever is the 3rd and 4th place teams there could get the top 2 or 3 seeds. (Although in the past CIF has liked to pair private schools early to eliminate them – or so the consipiracy theorists believe)

  • great for the sgv

    I would take Fregoso, that kid has a great attitude and work ethic like no other. And he put in the work without an attitude.

  • great for the sgv

    why is that when a certain team that has placed itself on a pedestal does not win they look for ways to diminish the accomplishments of teams that have had a successful season?

  • Crazy!

    Love them or hate them, Bishop Amat got over 200 blog hits on this thread alone during their bye week! LOL!

  • just sayin’

    great for sgv – you ruled yourself ineligible for the remainder of this conversation by saying you’d take Fregoso over Solomon or Moore. Now that totally explains the foolishness you usually post. you have no more crdibility in this forum. good night.

  • great for the sgv

    Your biased opinion and nothing else. Again I would take Fregoso.

  • great for the sgv

    Scoby is not a bad choice either. At qb Livingston would be at the top of the list.

  • Colt74

    About the coin flip…
    Let’s just say Bishop Amat got some “divine intervention” and leave it at that.
    He’s still upset about getting the smaller house though…. ( ask jcaz )
    :)

  • jcaz

    Notes in general

    1. @Colt74, Covina is by far the best team in that division. I cant see them losing it this time around.

    2, Always glad to see Cochargerfan in here. He always seems to bring out the best in many of the faithful. Love the guy….

    3. Haven’t seen Joe Amat quite this animated in some time. Glad to see it !

    3. Perhaps the most bizarre year yet under the leadership of coach Hag’s. Who would have thought that an Amat team would have lost three league games and still be in the hunt for the playoffs ? What an incredible year this was, and what makes this so much more stranger, was the fact that they might get far more favorable draw in the first round this time around than the last. I for one can’t see any team in the Pac5 five being heads and shoulders above Amat with the exception of Servite. Yet as funny as this may sound to many of you, id give the Lancers a far better chance the next time they see them than the last, “IF” they were to match up with them once again. The reason for that goes back to my story about how Notre Dame simply blew out the Lancers one year, and then the next, Amat returned the favor. So I do see Amat going further this time around than they have in the past. We shall see….

    4. BTW, that being said, Mayhem, be careful what you wish for because if Amat gets the right paring, the Trinity league rep might be the one wishing they were sitting at home right about 11am Sunday morning ha ha ha

    5. Just a thought…..Maybe Rio shouldn’t play quarterback next Friday night after all ? Maybe there is something to be said, not only about his injury, but about riding the same horse to the dance that got you there. That kid who played quarterback for the lancers last week wasn’t half bad. He just got a raw deal at the end, but maybe it wouldn’t be such a stretch if the team were to consider letting Rio play on the defensive end as opposed to the quarterback position this Friday, if only to give the other kid more confidence, and, also to give Rio more time to heal. Just a thought

    6. Don’t be surprised if Westlake gets the big game this year instead of Servite. They are that good !

    7. Last thought……Why does it always seem to rain this time of the year ?

  • Red Devil

    Best RB Sir Darius, Pomona

    Over 1700 yards over 12 yards per carry averaged over 190 yards per game (9 games).

    Now these are numbers with a very weak offense line.

  • Mayhem

    Jcaz, there is no trinity league team that would be afraid of Amat including the three that will be watching the playoffs. The only thing that Servite, Santa Margarita or Bosco will be trembling about might be the thought of having to use their starters for more than a half should they be lucky enough to draw Amat in the first round. You guys really have short memories in AmatLand if you think that you would have a chance in a rematch with Servite. You were beaten like a rented donkey six weeks ago….please put the cap back on the mad dog and sober up.

    Westlake is a good team, but they are not as good as Servite who again won the Trinity League and have a very good chance to win the PAC5 title. Based on Servites strength schedule, They get the open game. Westlake’s SOS from Calpreps a week ago was 36.5, while Servite is 45.3 which is second only to #1 Trinity of Kentucky, out of all of the top 25 teams nationally. Servite’s current opponent win percentage is .786 (48/61), compared to Westlake’s which was .583 (35/60) a week ago. Assuming Servite does win out, it would be a crime not to give them the state open game. Remember that Servite’s only blemish thus far was a last minute loss to Bishop Gorman, which Rivals has at #5 nationally last week. Westlake’s win’s over Del Oro and Oak’s are good, but lose some of their luster when you compare the overall strength of schedule of the two teams. If Westlake had a quality game scheduled against a top ten Out of State opponent, it would help their cause.

  • Isn’t okay to speculate?

    Don’t understand the Matt Barkley comparisons at all. MB started as a Freshmen and was a four year Varsity starter who subsequently started at USC as “true” Freshmen…unlike Rio..so stats in this case are foolish.

    This year I thought Rio was going to be let loose but seeing as his services were up in the air here’s what really took place according to Maxpreps.

    In 5 games this year Rio completed just 10 passes and in 6 games completed 116 yards or less.

    Also Adam Sanchez, their best receiver, was blanked at Venice and had only 10 catches in league ! That’s insane considering his speed and hands.

    So the question on the floor is simple, “Does the current Lancer Offense make the best use of Rio’s talents? Also is Rio an all time great based solely on a great Junior year when he threw for twice as many yards as he has as a senior? Also as a Junior he had a very good year on defense, did he do that this year as well? I’ll let others clear that up.

    Given these stats is it unfair to ask if Travis Santiago is a better HS QB, career-wise, than Rio, regardless of level of competition? I don’t see any wrong in speculating how the Lancers would do with Travis instead of Rio given Travis superior arm strength, accuracy and running ability.

    In fact, maybe I’m missing something but in the 43-13 La Habra win Rio went 7/8 142 1 TD longest 46 yds., Cathedral 56-7 he went 10/19 116 24 longest and 1 TD in a BLOWOUT! But in the Venice game he goes 16/24 for 86 yards!!! 0 TDs. ) INTS…wow!

    I also think the reverse is true, or maybe it’s speculation, but Rio in CO’s Offense …with all that speed, numbers at RB and “let it fly” freedom does what? Equal Travis or surpass him.

    Let’s talk Football…did Hagerty get the most of his talent? fair question.

  • jcaz

    Mayhem

    I will say to you right here and now, that there is absolutely no denying the fact that Amat got their lunch handed to them by Servite. tell me something I dont know already….

    My point to all of this however, was that when a good team faces another team the second time around, don’t always expect the same results as the first time.

    Mayhem, while this may sound unbelievable to you, I would nevertheless say to you that Amat could out and out defeat the Friers a second time around, even given the absolute butt wuppen that they put on us the first, and, to support my argument, I used that Notre Dame game a few years ago as an example.

    Look my friend, this is high school football were talking about, not major college sports or anything even remotely close to that. There are so many factors that come into play here when teams such as this get together on any given Friday night.

    Case in point, if Servite were such a Juggernaut, then why have they not absolutely wiped the floor against all of the other teams that they have played against this year ? Because it’s high school football.

    Look, their last win was an extremely close affair, as were some of the other games that they have played and won this year. And to be honest with you, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see them lose during the playoffs this year because the Pac5 is that good.

    BTW, yes, I could see Westlake go on to that championship game. If you dont agree with me, then im ok with that, but just remember what happened to Servite last year against De la Sale. It wasn’t pretty

    One more thing. I do want yo to know that im not one of these people who will sit here and tell you that just because team “A” beat team “B” a couple of years ago, that that history would have any effect on a game played today, but, I will say that Amat has shown in the past an uncanny ability of wining some pretty big games that many people simply believed that they had little or no chance in winning.

    The simple fact is that if the were any team in this entire SGV who even had a chance to win a game such as this, then you could bet the farm that it would be Amat, if only because they have done this in past.

    And…….As for your trinity league comment, come on dude, lets get real here. Amat can more than hold their own against any of those teams and while you may have hard time believing that, I will remind you that as early as last year, Amat did in fact face a trinity league team in the playoffs. Remember ???

    BTW, as a side note. Amat has always, and I mean has always started off slowly in most of the years that Hag’s has been the head guy. Don’t know why that but it is what it is.

    The fact that they got beat and got beat, and got beat badly by Servite was no surprise to me. That’s why I personally believe that if Amat were ever to play an early game against a good team such as Charter Oak, that it would serve them better to play them after week two or three, because no matter how you slice it, they would struggle.

    Anyway, my point once again to all of this s that any of theses high school teams can beat one another. Thats all im saying dude.

  • 12th man

    The No Huddle would work perfect!!..Everyone knows Amat runs the ball & they try taking you out of the game by beating you on time of possession & keeping your offense off the field~..I have no complaints with that strategy..But guess what?? That type of offense will only get you so far~ You best believe you wont have that kind of success against the top pac5 teams…If you look at all the film or close games that Servite was involved in..Almost every team that was on the verge of an upset was Passing the ball all day on Servite & some running the “No Huddle”…If Amat gets Servite in the 1st round you better run the No Huddle or atleast pass for 60% of the game & change the tempo! Best way to beat a powerhouse from the pac5 is too keep them guessing & on their toes at all times & not allowing them to make the neccessary subs..No more drop backs!! Everything needs to be a rollout & throw on the run!!

  • Real talk

    I feel Rio doesn’t have that qb touch if you know what I mean. He has a rocket arm
    A lot of time he is throwing to hard, but he does have the leadership it takes to win a game. Like I said in a earlier post I would like to see more of him at receiver as just a make the def think play I think with Rio lined up as receiver shay and Moore all out there who does their def key on? I think that the other kid can make the quick passes to Rio, shay, and Moore out the backfield. I’m not saying everyplay. we should still run the ball, But I don’t think any and I mean any team could stop all three of our studs. It just feels like Rio is limited when he is playing QB.

  • Get your facts straight!

    Get your facts straight! said:

    Douche Bag Amat

    You only listed Barkley’s soph and senior year stats, what about his frosh and his best year in high school stats as a junior?

    Matt Barkley Stats:

    05 126/220 1685yds 10td 9int 80qb
    06 89/156 1349yds 11td 5int 96qb
    07 213/340 3568yds 35td 9int 121qb
    08 176/322 2877yds 23td 18int 85qb

  • Real talk

    @get your facts straight did Matt barkley ever beat Amat?

  • Real What?

    Did Rio ever beat Alemany ? What’s your point ?

  • Real talk

    @get your facts straight I was not comparing Matt and Rio. I was just wondering because I seen him at the Amat vs mater dei game and mater dei lost that night I guess it was nothing new to him.

  • COChargerfan

    Joecome on now, you took a shot at the other divisions with the drop to a lower division to play another day nonsense. And the Aram crack is clearly a jab at CO.

    BTW, every team except football plays in a lower divisionis that because they lack the DNA to compete at the highest level? Please explain.

    And I already knew where the bottom of the Inland ranks. My point was that they sure look a lot like the bottom of the Pac-5 all mediocre teams. And Im wondering whether you personally polled all of the Pac-5 teams to see if some of them wouldnt prefer to play in another division?

    Talking about rankings, did you see that CO is 31st and Amat is 38thand expect CO to move up a few notches after the CH win. Looks like Maxpreps believes that COs DNA is pretty good this season.

    As to the Rio discussion, the paltry 9 TD’s pretty much ends the discussion.

    When the CIF posts the playoff teams this morning there will be ecstatic and disappointed kids from the bubble teams across the divisions and disappointment is just as real to a D9 team as to Orange Lutheran and Mater Dei.

  • Bonita fan

    Totally amazed at the luck in making the playoff for Amat.

  • Aaron

    Been on the wrong side of coin flips before…so good luck to Bishop Amat but they’re gonna get a top draw. As a third place team Bishop Amat is looking at facing Poly, Edison, Mission Viejo, or Servite. Going on the road to all four of those will be extremely tough to near impossible…but that’s the point league champs face the third and fourth seeds out of leagues.

    As far as Westlake is concerned…they may not have the same depth as Servite or Centennial, but as of right now they are the number one team in the State according to Maxpreps. Calpreps gives them a higher rating than Servite (64.1) and Centennial (56.7), Westlake is 68…if you’re complaining about their SOS because of their league…look at it, it’s not weak in fact it’s definitely the toughest since the champ has to survive nine league games.

  • One who does

    Someone below was questioning Amats ofense and the QBs performance and role in that game plan. Looking at those stats it shows that Rios two years compare with two of Barkleys years very favorably – whichever years they are.

    TD passes are laregly a function off that game plan-so 9 may not be paltry. Unless teh 11 Barkley threw in more games is paltry too? i do know that 18 interceptions is not paltry. A run oriented/ball controll team isn’t going to air it out and take those chances. They’re not going to spread you at the goalline and throw one. They’re running it in.

    One thing for sure, ,you can tell what guys know football on thos blog and what guys don’t!

  • Anonymous

    fact: amats biggest victory this year came against a team that been to the playoffs once out of the past 4 years. CHEW ON THAT

  • tastes good.

    Looks to me like Bishop Amat beat the #4 seed in the City Section Division 1 playoffs, hung 50+ on the #4 seed in West Covina’s powerful Southeast Division, and a 7-3 team from the powerful Sierra League. The Southeast and the Sierra are powerful – right? Appears that Amat beat 3 of the 5 League champions they played (losing to 1 by 5)

    Unfortunately for Crespi, they have lost to Bishop Amat 3 of the last 4 years and also have to compete with the likes of Notre Dame, Loyola, and Alemany – all in the Top 20 in the Southern Section. And in those those last 2 years they have wins over Vista Murrietta, Clovis West (Bakersfield D1 Champs). I guess they are pretty bad.

  • COChargerfan

    Anyway you cut it, 9 TD’s is paltry. You can try to sugar coat it with a “game plan” excuse but at the end of the season it is a small number of TD’s. It is what it is. And isn’t it just possible that the reason that the Amat coaches game plan to run the ball is because they aren’t a good passing team?

    And FredJ, while the 2008 CO team did pound the ball with Muema you are overlooking the fact that Allen still threw for 23 TD’s and rushed for 8 more. So, unlike Amat’s team, the 2008 CO team had a balanced attack.

  • balanced?

    COCupcakefan,

    The 2008 Charter Oak team only attempted 184 passes all season, including the playoffs. In comparison, they ran the ball 457 times. That’s not balanced…that is a running team.

    2008 would also be the year of Lou Farrar’s greatest and most difficult victory to date…a 14-14 tie with Rancho Cucamonga! LOL!

  • Blue History

    USC and former Mater Dei QB, Matt Barkley had problems when he faced Bishop Amat in 2005. He did pass for 274 yards but he only completed 19 out of 38 attempts and threw 3 interceptions. Mater Dei lost 28-7 to Bishop Amat that year. None of this matters though because Barkley was only a freshman at the time which is a true testament to his awesome skills. He would go on and become one of the greatest QBs that has ever played at Mater Dei.

  • COChargerfan

    Their scoring was balanced…24 passing TD’s to 48 rushing. And Allen rushed for 8 TD’s so he was responsible for 32 of the 72 scores or 44%.

    That’s about as balanced as it gets in high school.

    BTW, per Maxpreps CO is now ranked 26th in the state and Amat dropped to 42nd.

  • to Real Talk

    Real Talk:

    While i agree that the SGV has to stay together, I disagree with the fact that Inland Division has a larger enrollment and better pickings. School such as Damien, Amat, and some public schools recruit. At Damien alone, they have recruited over 12 players. Not that Gano picked the right kids, but, if he was more astute in his selections, Damien would be unstoppable.

    Inland Division still beleives in Big bruising kids. SGV has the faster mentality.

    you know i would liken it to the AFC and the NFC in the old days. NFC was smashmouth run it up the gut, and AFC was faster and passing based offenses.