La Serna wins early battle over West Covina, Southeast championship on Friday at California High School

UPDATE — CIF officials will visit Cal Hi on Wednesday to look a the field conditions and facilities before giving the green light.

West Covina’s Southeast championship against La Serna will be at California High School on Friday at 7 p.m., where La Serna normally plays its home games. At Monday’s luncheon, West Covina argued against playing at Cal Hi because of the limited seating on the visitors side, plus the field isn’t in the greatest condition. Miguel Melendez covered La Serna’s win over Muir at Cal Hi last week and Melendez said it was one of the worst fields he’s seen all year. A dry, dirty bumpy surface with barely any grass left. There also is no press box, so not sure whether we’ll be able to do a Coveritlive. According to Steve Ramirez, La Serna agreed to provide extra bleachers for West Covina fans, so CIF approved the site. La Serna wanted Cal Hi for another reason too, to keep the Bulldogs off an artificial surface. La Serna High School athletic director Steve Hemenway said that Cal High as of now seats 5,000 and they will bring in extra bleachers between 500-800. “The biggest thing is are their enough seats,” Hemenway said. “We are bringing in extra seats to accommodate about 500-800, which should put us about 5,500.” That means roughly 2,500 to 2,800 seats for West Covina fans. What a shame, last year’s game at Walnut was packed and in the neighborhood of 6 to 7,000 fans. West Covina pushed for La Serna to use nearby La Mirada because its stadium holds roughly 10,000. But it had an artificial surface. In other words, the field conditions were too good to host the game.

Below: Video highlights from La Serna’s win over Muir. You can see just how bad the field looks. Terrible.

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  • Bulldogs have bite

    I have a feeling that Coach Maggiore and the boys will make themselves feel right at home in their endzone all night long. Bulldog Nation will be there supporting you guys even if we have to sit on eachother’s laps and stand on one another’s shoulders!

  • Realist

    It’s going to be a shame that people will be turned away at the gate…

  • Cong ’76

    I have a feeling La Serna is gonna learn a few hard lesson’s Friday night. Not the least of which is to act like they have been there before and not to win the petty battles but to look at the bigger picture.

  • Bulldog Nation

    La Serna only threw more wood into the already burning fire by making West Covina play on the worst field in the area!!!

  • Bulldog mama

    The bulldog fans will definitely be out there to support our boys as always! Turf or grass doesnt really matter…our boys practiced all summer on a grass field and we played Los Altos and Covina on grass fields and we know how that turned out. Good luck to both teams on Friday!! GO BULLDOGS!!! :D

  • Anonymous

    Foxsportswest.com will webcast this game also. Congratulations La Serna on making the Southeast Division Final look like the chinciest Division in all of CIF for all the world to see! I want to see the look on the broadcasters face when they realize they have to call the game standing on top of their van!

    Fred, why don’t you guys give Simmons from CIF a call on prepXtra live and ask them why they approved this venue!

  • Nico

    Good La Serna is gonna put a hurtin on those W Covina mijas

  • Fred Robledo

    Championship games and events should have working press areas. Even in swimming there is a media station. At a time when CIF has a contract with Fox to provide live coverage of all 13 championships, this should drive the TV people crazy. Is Fox going to shoot from the stands or bring in their own towers? And how about the announcers, ought to be chilly out there in some tower or the stands, wherever they put them.

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Nico,

    You guys may put a hurt’n on the West Covina mijas, but I bet they will still score on you. Then our varsity squad will actually take the field…

  • http://www.westcovinafootball.com Marquez

    They can play on the street and I still see a Bulldogs win.

    It is unfortunate for the fans (especially WC) that will be going to this game. It is not free to get into these playoff games,and fans attending ( a championship game)deserve way more than this.

    And CIF officials wonder why High School Football attendance is not growing?

  • Fred Robledo

    These decisions are based solely on seats and gate revenue? If you think Fox is going to have a tough time calling a game at Cal Hi, wait till they get a load of Rio Hondo Prep hosting its game at home. There’s barely any room to stand as it is. Poor decisions by CIF, they should consider the best venues available to the host location, and give stronger consideration to venues with press facilities for their working partners at Fox and media that cover the events. I spoke with Mike the Cousin, he’ll tweet updates instead of doing Coveritlive. I’m not sure he would have enough battery to finish Coveritlive anyway. Where’s he going to plug in? What a disaster.

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Fred,

    The Fox layout for webcast games was three cameras. Two cameras on the top row of the bleachers on each 25 yard line and a camera field level behind the endzone in the back corner. The announcers used the press box during the WC/Rowland game, My guess is they will have an old school Chick Hern style press table set up somewhere in the bleachers causing even more crowding. Just read that the La Serna AD is hoping to increase the stadium capacity to a WHOPPING 5500 SEATS! This is truly a disaster and unfortunate for the boys playing their final game in such a meager underwhelming setting.

  • Cong ’76

    If this is how La Serna deals with this type of event, then I hope they are knocked out way early next year so they won’t be given this type of authority.

  • Help Please?

    BS! can’t anyone with common sense override this! It’s gonna cause people that truly want to go out and enjoy the game to say efff it, because they know its gonna be absolutely ridiculous. WC alone should have at least 2,000 fans at that game! Championship games should be played at a bigger venue then regular! Not to mention that WC is the #1 seed overall and will end having only 1 out of 4 playoff games at home! ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!! Can you say a flawed system!!! And La Serna needs to cut the crap with this whole artificial surface thing! What’s the big deal about turf, they need to get with the times! How is that not an advantage for La Serna as well! and finally why not La Mirada HS????? It is press friendly and fan friendly! And its still in La Serna’s backyard!

  • Bulldogs have bite

    There is only one clear answer to why La Serna insists on playing at Cal High. They are cheap. When I see a La Serna grad, I always put an extra nickel in his panhandler’s cup.

  • Cong ’76

    Gotta disagree BHB, I think they have convinced themselves this decision gives them a better chance of competing. Previously, I predicted Maqggiore might try and keep things reasonable, a 21 point spread or so. But now, he may just let the dogs run wild…

  • loves hs football

    Pathetic!LS is playing mind games- they wanna keep WC off a fast surface- hope it backfires big time- typical LS!! hope they get their butts kicked!

  • 12th man

    Fred,
    Let the games begin~..You know what’s coming next dont you?…Someone from La Serna will “ACCIDENTLY” leave the sprinklers on all night on thurs.or friday morning..Dont be suprised if the lights suddenly go out during the game to change momentum~…These are all tricks of the trade in High School Football~

  • BULLDOG TIA

    hey if we run out of room on our visitors side, watch out La Serna..WE might be sitting with you guys too, on your side, and you will be surrounded by BULLDOG FANS! Good luck to both teams. Can’t wait!!

  • Fred Robledo

    12th man, that could happen. With all the winds, that field is probably hard and dry. It pains me to think about falling on it, probably no give at all. So yes, they probably will water it to soften it up, but that could make it muddy too. Could be an interesting storyline come Friday. CIF should require that championships games be played on an artificial surface in the future. At the state finals this year, the Home Depot Center will install an artificial surface after what happened last year in the storms. I keep saying this, baseball, basketball, softball, soccer, volleyball and so on have set venues for championships, and they all have championship feels to them. Football needs to do the same thing with venues for football which could be solved easily. Why not four championships Anaheim Stadium, three at Citrus College, three at Cypress, three at Orange Coast, or something to that affect. You can have one championship on Friday and two on Saturday playing 4 and 7:30 p.m. For example, because of regional proximity, imagine if Monrovia-San Gabriel were Friday at Citrus, followed by Rio Hondo Prep’s championship Saturday and West Covina to follow.

  • As I see it

    BULLDOG NATION –

    This field situation is a real easy fix. Just show up early in mass and everybody sit on the La Serna side. Tell the people at the gate that you are neutral and just there to see the game, they have to let you in. Once in spread out the blankets and take over – make them sit on the nasty side and see how they like it. Real easy to do but someone needs to coordinate it from the Nation.

  • Norco

    Hmmmmmmmm……La Serna….We will see you in week#4 next year…ouch…

  • 12th man

    Just watched the video & the field looks horrendous!!..Its not even grass..It looks like a BMX or Motorcross field…CIF should be ashamed for not looking into the venue & providing a safe enviroment for the kids to play~…I can definately see the La Serna strategy..If they water this field it will become a muddy pig-pen wich could ultimately level the playing field..Its much harder for a running back to make his cuts on mud rather then wet grass…This could get intresting considering WC is a ground & pound team..

  • http://rgd2626 rgd2626

    What a bunch of cry babies.
    Just play the game.Why should anyone here care where they play. I hate to tell you all this, but this about the kids playing for a cif championship.They dont care what or where they play.Parents,bloggers and FRED stay out of it. If you think for even one second cif play games in bigger venues is for the kids you are wrong.It is about the (dollar bill) !

    w

  • Cong ’76

    rgd2626

    Why do you suppose they have played CIF championship games at Anaheim Stadium, The Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and some large colleges? Those venues certainly don’t sell out yet somebody thought it might be a “special experience” for the kids who earned the right to be there.

    La Serna insisting on playing on its own field only illustrates they are a program not yet ready to step up to the next level.

  • CO Fan

    Seriously, who gives a sh!% about WC vs. La Serna ??????

    These lower division games are meaningless. The real games are played at real venues.

    It’s clear CIF doesn’t care also. So parents of WC and La Serna, just accept reality.

  • Big Lou

    At least WC and LS are still playing :(

  • Lance R

    Field crappy or not they both have to play on it. WC looks to be winning going away so it really will not matter unless it rains then that dirt turns to slop. With no rain in the forecast this is a non-issue. As far as seating capacity get there early and do not be the one that gets turned away at the gate although I really do not see that happening everyone will get in. I would think WC would be using their grass field to practice on this week and not their artificial turf they play on. This one will be close at Halftime but WC runs away with it in the second half and a blowout occurs.

  • Cong ’76

    I imagine the kids on the LA teams, (and of coures kids from other schools with similar experinces) from the past who were given the once-in-a-lifetime experience of running onto the Coliseum field or played on the field at the Big A or the Rosebowl would tell you it was a worth-while experience.

  • Cong ’76

    I imagine the kids on the LA teams, (and of coures kids from other schools with similar experinces) from the past who were given the once-in-a-lifetime experience of running onto the Coliseum field or played on the field at the Big A or the Rose Bowl would tell you it was a worth-while experience.

  • BULLDOG TIA

    @rgd2626, of course we care you idiot! not about whether we will play on grass or artificial turf, but about whether there will be enough room for everyone you moron. who wants to get turned away at the gate? that is what we are upset about!

  • Lancer Law

    Fred J

    This has to be an all time high in irresponsible reporting on your behalf. Do you know FOR A FACT that the venue was chosen to keep Westco off an artificial surface and give La Serna an advantage (i.e. has anyone from LS administration confirmed this, you know REAL reporting or your job)or have you just imagined it and are reporting your opinion as fact. What happened to the things you learned in your journalism 101 class? Oh that’s right you didn’t actually attend did you? And now because you are irresponsibly reporting fiction, you have incited the BS that BULLDOG NATION is attempting to organize. I hope that the Trib has sufficient Liability Insurance to cover ANY issues that are caused by your reporting and the use of your blog to advance this action. I can see for example that a fight breaks out between the fans that are doing as BN has suggested on your blog. You, (and by extension the Trib) will be held jointly liable for any damage or injury that ensue. Although you do have the absolute right to express your opinion on your blog, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. I can guarantee you that though there may not be as many bloggers in the La Serna area, Friendly Hills does not lack for attorneys. You and the Trib may also consider this as notice.

  • reality

    Hey Perry Mason!! Too funny. You are gonna need ambulance chasers alright. So they can sue for damages for the lumps put on the Lancers. Lotsa luck Mexican Beverly Hills.

  • Fred Robledo

    Lancer law, overheard the discussions Monday at the luncheon in regards to the site, and Stevie R., told me after speaking with La Serna folks it was their preference to keep it on a grass surface.

  • 12th man

    CALL LARRY PARKER!! HE GOT ME 1.2 MILL..

  • Lancer

    Fred J

    Oh, you mean watering the field over night is only done by one team to unethically gain an advantage over another. So are you saying that any team that does something like that has no integrity? Wait didn’t Amat do that last year before the Tesoro Game? So are you now saying that Amat’s action were unethical and the Administration lacks integrity? Now that is news Fred. Or perhaps because it is Amat, you are willing to give the administration the benefit of a doubt. Comeon Fred, what happened to treating everyone the same…

  • BULLDOG TIA

    @CO Fan,
    how dare you say that our game is meaningless because we are in a lower division? These kids played hard to get here and it means ALOT to them and to us! BESIDES, WHAT BUSINESS DO YOU HAVE BEING ON THIS BLOG ANYWAYS? Last time I checked, CO was out…GOT SPANKED BY UPLAND! You dummy! Get outta here and stop hating!

  • Fred Robledo

    Lancer, Bishop Amat watering the field was ITS OWN MISTAKE. They hurt themselves, it was an accident the water ran. You think they wanted Jalen Moore on a slippery, muddy field. Why would you take that advantage away? That’s what it was all about that week, Amat screwing up its own chances with the sprinklers left on overnight. Bad comparison.

    BTW, never once have I blamed La Serna for trying to play at Cal Hi. More power to them, it’s their home game. The fact they convinced CIF to play there despite the poor field conditions and absence of a working press facility is why I posted this, those are factors that should be considered in championship games. And when there is a better venue nearby with 10,000 seats and a state of the art surface compared to a 5,550 seat venue and terrible surface, you should use the venue more suitable for a championship event. It’s one thing to not be among the glorified few that get to play at Angels Stadium or other big venues, players can live with that. But at least do all you can to give them a venue that’s championship worthy.

  • Still Laughing

    Fred-
    You know what, Lancer Law brings up a good point (wink wink). I too heard about how OUT OF HAND La Serna parents can get. I heard they had a VERY POOR representation at a basketball game not long ago putting down kids from the opposing school and such; and those high school gyms where basketball games are very intimate in regards to proximity of players and fans. If they had the gall to do that at a basketball game, who’s to say they wouldn’t do it at a football game? Prepare yourselves, Bulldog Nation, should you decide to take over their stands and sit among them…

  • Junior

    Wait until you get to the jackass, that announces the games. You can get a taste of him from the clip. He is the biggest homer and idiot I have ever heard. Do us all a favor WestCo and shut him up early and often.

  • Coin Toss

    Shouldn’t the subject have read: “La Serna wins coin toss”; which would not
    be as inciting as the current title. If La Serna won the coin toss, don’t they get the
    choice of venues. If so, they should defer and play the game at West Covina High School. Fred has stirred the WC fans into a frenzy and they will now be organizing an Occupy La Serna Bleachers situation; trying to take over the home
    bleachers to protest the choice of venues. Based on the blogs, it looks
    like the West Covina fans will be entering the stadium with a chip
    on their shoulders, ready to show everybody that they have the
    better team and that they know better as to where this game should
    have been played.

    BTW, whatever happened to the Cal High field? It used to be in very
    good shape. I vote to give the angry crowd their due and play it at
    West Covina. Its not worth the violence or injuries. My second
    choice would be to play it at Friendly Hills Country Club; right
    next to La Serna High. It has beautiful green grass and fast greens
    which will benefit West Covina.

  • 12th man

    I hear the “Occupy La Serna Home Side” campaign will start tomorrow in order to get the venue moved~

  • 12th man

    ***BREAKING NEWS******
    CIF OFFICIALS WILL MEET TOMORROW(WEDNESDAY) AT CAL-HI TO SEE IF THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND STANDS WILL OCCOMMODATE BOTH SIDES!!

  • champs

    Bulldog and all the others who never play played a down of football in there lives. As a player it doesn’t matter where the hell you play when your playing. AND THAT”S A FACT!!! sound like bitches WOW!!!!

  • champs

    Bulldog and all the others who never play played a down of football in there lives. As a player it doesn’t matter where the hell you play when your playing. AND THAT”S A FACT!!! sound like bitches WOW!!!!

  • champs

    Bulldog and all the others who never play played a down of football in there lives. As a player it doesn’t matter where the hell you play when your playing. AND THAT”S A FACT!!! sound like bitches WOW!!!!

  • champs

    Bulldog and all the others who never play played a down of football in there lives. As a player it doesn’t matter where the hell you play when your playing. AND THAT”S A FACT!!! sound like bitches WOW!!!!

  • Fred Robledo

    12th man is correct, CIF officials will visit Cal Hi on Wednesday to look at the field conditions and facilities before giving the go-ahead. As of now, the game is still at CalHi.

  • LSbaseball

    Everyone needs to stop whining about the field location. La Serna won the coin toss, therefore has the right to play at their home stadium. Let the KIDS play.

  • bobbradstreet

    I like what 12th man,bulldog tia and bulldog nation said. If we run out of room, there is the home stands. Don’t you all want bulldog fans in the home stands? We always outnumber the so called home fans. Support your team……

  • Los Altos 84

    A few years ago I went the RC – Upland final and Rancho, being the designated home team insisted on playing on their home field. The problem wasn’t so much the field but this facility was in no way capable of handling the enormous crowd and all that came with it. We were seated in folding chairs at the end of the end zone and we were the lucky ones. Hundreds of people including family members were turned away because there was just no room to fit them, these included grandparents, aunt, uncles etc. I see the same debacle or worse transpiring here. This game should be played at a much larger venue, good luck parents/fans… Go West Covina, run it up on their “home” field!!!

  • CalHi Invasion

    BULLDOGS TAKING OVER THE HOME SIDE! LETS DO THIS LA SERNA FANS!!!! ITS WHAT YOU GUYS GET!

  • LancerFancer

    Fred, I do not understand why you are making the field condition so dramatic. It’s football, on a natural playing surface, the field is gonna get a little sloppy. This type of stuff happens ALL THE TIME. For instance, Cal v. Stanford a couple weeks ago. LS won the toss, and they will fight to play on their home field where they are most comfortable at and where they have played home games at. Can you WC fans not understand this mental advantage? The boys are in their comfort zone at Cal. Let’s be honest here, it looks like LS will need any advantage it can get, playing at Cal would be huge for the boys; LS does not care about the seating or the television coverage, and they shouldn’t. Stop focusing on these stupid “stories” and start covering the kid’s as they prep for a CIF championship. If you want a seat…SHOW UP EARLY!

  • Jefe

    Annoying idiotic homer announcer…check.

    Crappy, torn up, near-dirt field…check.

    Constant cowbell after every play..check.

    I’ll be avoiding this game like the plague.

  • Steve Ramirez

    Fred, my friend, some of the biggest games in the history of football where played under bad conditions. Every hear of the Ice Bowl, the Mud Bowl, or the famed ‘Stabler’s run in the Mud?”
    I think games with bad field conditions adds to the flavor of the game. Football, is often about survival of the fittest, and being able to play through the conditions.

  • westco

    I read on steves blog for la serna that west covina fans and going to raid la sernas side and boycott the snack bar and not eat at the game either for being so rude to west covina fans. this game is going to get ugly. also is la serna going to bring in extra security since west covina fans are going to be on both sides.

  • wesco

    Steve your not getting it. This is not the pros its high school also westco will play them in the streets it dont matter its about the stands its not going to hold all westco fans.

  • Flip Top

    I have heard a rumor that the Occupy Los Angeles people will be
    released from jail and will be joining the West Covina fans in a
    combined Occupy La Serna Bleachers sit-in. They will be taking
    over the entire La Serna stands; setting up tents and blankets
    for warmth and cover. They will also be protesting the 1% La Serna
    parents that live in the Friendly Hills gated communities above
    La Serna High School.

    I agree with Coin Toss that the game should be played at
    Friendly Hills Country Club. The La Serna fans can view the
    game from the Club House Stadium area while sipping hot
    totties from the balcony. The West Covina fans will be able
    to occupy the entire fairways; from 1-18. The course has
    enough room to accommodate the entire city of West Covina
    so that should provide comfort to the fans. Just the fairways,
    though. Please avoid the greens.

    It should be a good game.

  • Flip Top

    I have heard a rumor that the Occupy Los Angeles people will be
    released from jail and will be joining the West Covina fans in a
    combined Occupy La Serna Bleachers sit-in. They will be taking
    over the entire La Serna stands; setting up tents and blankets
    for warmth and cover. They will also be protesting the 1% La Serna
    parents that live in the Friendly Hills gated communities above
    La Serna High School.

    I agree with Coin Toss that the game should be played at
    Friendly Hills Country Club. The La Serna fans can view the
    game from the Club House Stadium area while sipping hot
    totties from the balcony. The West Covina fans will be able
    to occupy the entire fairways; from 1-18. The course has
    enough room to accommodate the entire city of West Covina
    so that should provide comfort to the fans. Just the fairways,
    though. Please avoid the greens.

    It should be a good game

    P.S. Someone needs to cut the grass before the CIF officials arrive.

  • Whiner

    I don’t think it’s right that the West Covina fans will be sitting on the La Serna side. I’m scared.

    Why don’t they move the game to Saturday and play it at Cal State Fullerton?

  • Supaman

    Let me make this 100% clear. WC BULLDOGS, DO NOT care where they play La Serna, grass, dirt, mud, clay, asphalt etc… WC will bring their A+ game without a doubt. But as parents and fans we would like to see THE DEFENDING CIF SS CHAMPS play in an environment that is suitable for family, fans, and Fox Sports West… CIF Championship on dirt, no seating, and you’re ok with that La Serna? WC FANS BRING YOUR A+ GAME. Whenever they have the ball make some noise, when we kick off make some noise, BRING IT!!!

  • Oh No…

    You people are just a bunch of spoiled cry babies. They should just ban all fans and make you people watch it online.

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Oh no,

    That’s right! We are spoiled! Spoiled with good football! And with that comes lots of enthusiastic fans. LS people probably don’t care much for their football, so playing in a toilet like Cal high is not a big deal for their limited amount of fans. Sorry we don’t get all excited about overcrowding your meager cracker jack stadium!

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Maybe they should ban La Serna from ever hosting a football game because they fail to grasp the concept of a championship game and the magnitude and scale involved with it! It shows that you guys have not been there in 40 years!

  • http://www.westcovinafootball.com Marquez

    Steve Ramirez said
    “Fred, my friend, some of the biggest games in the history of football where played under bad conditions. Every hear of the Ice Bowl, the Mud Bowl, or the famed ‘Stabler’s run in the Mud?”
    I think games with bad field conditions adds to the flavor of the game. Football, is often about survival of the fittest, and being able to play through the conditions.”

    Hopefully your just being sarcastic about this. By the way, the NFL did finally figure out that bad conditions were not a good thing. When is the last time the Super Bowl was not in a dome or a warm weather state?

  • Bonita Parent

    West Covina, I hope you go out and murder La Serna. La Serna has no class and that’s why they’re trying to pull this stunt. This is the same team/coach that refused to trade film with our coaches earlier in the season and the same parents, who after beating us by 1 point because we didn’t have a kicker, started throwing things and yelling at our kids on their way back to the locker room. La Serna has no class. When Bonita was the home team last season, they had a chance to play at Bonita but there weren’t enough seats and we weren’t about to force West Co and Bonita fans to squeeze in there when it wasn’t necessary.

  • Still Laughing

    @ Whiner-
    “Why don’t they move the game to Saturday and play it at Cal State Fullerton?”

    Because the real championship games are being played at Anaheim Stadium Saturday and CIF doesn’t want these consolation, lower division games getting in the way like an obnoxious step-child!

    Quit all your bantering everyone! The real games are on Saturday at Anaheim Stadium. Go to those games instead. The winners of those games will be representing Southern California in the State Championship games later this month; not the games being played on Friday night!!!
    Would you rather have a Super Bowl trophy or Grey Cup (Canada’s idea of pro football league)? Is a championship in AAA baseball better than a World Series trophy/championship? These are consolation championships.
    Truth hurts!

  • 12th man

    Still Laughing,
    There is only one game that could have State Bowl implications this Saturday at Anaheim Stadium (San Clemente vs Santa Margarita)..The only way one of these Pac5 teams get in is if Westlake loses to Oaks Christian & even then its not a sure thing….If Westlake wins they play in the Open Div. & the winner of the Inland Div. most likely will play in the Div.1 State Bowl…You should get more informed before you start dropping Football nonsense about the other Divisions…Just for the record the 2 biggest games in High School Football will be played on Friday & they wont be at Anaheim Stadium!! Oaks Christian vs Westlake at Westlake Village & Vista Murrieta vs Corona Centennial at Corona~

  • Cong ’76

    Yogi says, “No one is going to go to this game, it’s gonna’ be to crowded!”

  • Still Laughing

    I stand corrected! You are absolutely right about not all games with State Championship implications being played on Saturday at Anaheim Stadium. HOWEVER, I’m still not speaking “nonsense”, as you say, when I said these lower division games being consolation games and championships.
    Help me out here, what divisions do all those teams play in with the State Championship berths on the line play in?
    Let me help you out- NOT division VI or VII… or XI (yikes, 11?; what’s 8-man?)
    I know, little Johnny’s D VII Championship is a great accomplishment; blah blah blah… Maybe little Johnny can be a professional janitor! Aim high! Getting an A+ in remedial math is a great accomplishment too, but getting an A+ in AP Algebra 2 is better…

  • Cong ’76

    Still Laughing…

    Why all the fuss over any of these games? Afterall, none of these teams could beat LSU or Alabama, right?

  • Still Laughing

    You left out Oklahoma State and Stanford, but we’re talking high school football. I don’t believe LSU or Alabama could beat Green Bay either, but one’s college and the other’s professional just as (in your comparison) one’s high school and the other’s college; or did you not see this in your own comparison? Unless you’re trying to say the high school level of play between those who play in State Championships and consolation championships are extreme contrasts to one another in quality of play. Are you saying those with a State Championship berth on the line are far superior (a la your comparison of high school football to the college elite), or you didn’t realize what you were saying?
    Which is it?

  • Cong ’76

    Still laughing…

    My point is, all of these games are important to the people involved, players, families, fans, mdeia etc. That playing in any championship game, regardless of level of competition, holds a great amount of interest for those involved.

    I am infering from what you say that the lower levels hold so much less significance than the upper levels, that “it doesn’t matter” where the games are played or when. My point about LSU or Alabama was that those schools could care less about high school championship games in CA football. But because THEY could care less about them, should they take on any less significance for the people invloved? Of course not…

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Still Laughing,

    What does it matter what division goes to Anaheim stadium for CIF or State? Most of us could care less about teams like Westlake, Servite etc… We care about these SGV teams because we went to school or grew up in this area. Unless you went to any of the schools in the Pac5 or Inland Final, you’re just a jock-rider without a dog in the fight. And if you did, why are you on this board? That would make your comments here as useless as our tiny little divison championships right?

    We may be in lower divisions, but the talent we have in our small area of SoCal is pretty solid. Our communities were built from the early 1900′s to 1955 or so. Most of the schools are so close you can throw a rock in any direction and hit one! That’s just how they planned the communities in those days. OC and IE schools have massive enrollments and can field stronger teams because their talent pool does not get split up by disecting district lines!

    Ellis McCarthy is one of the top recruits in the nation. Do you think LSU, USC, Oregon, Florida,and UCLA give a flying duck what division he plays in?

    You may laugh all you want, people who look down on others always have someone who are in a posistion to look down on them. Now that’s something to laugh about!

  • Still Laughing

    “And if you did, why are you on this board?” – Because I can’t believe all the whining and crying folks are making about what the condition the field is in! I get the complaints about the seating (or lack thereof) but the field condition, really?
    “but the talent we have in our small area of SoCal is pretty solid” – I’m sorry but, have you ever perused the rosters of the PAC 12? I see plenty of D I and D II schools represented well. I saw a gentleman from Upland (D II) on Stanford’s roster, Chino Hills and Amat on Oregon’s roster, South Hills on USC’s roster, Amat is represented on UCLA’s roster, South Hills represented on Utah’s roster, just to name a few. Help me out; I don’t see any West Covina in the PAC 12. My bad, they must be in the SEC…

    “people who look down on others always have someone who are in a posistion to look down on them” – That’s right! But not all of us get but-hurt about it and accept our place in this dog-eat-dog world! I’ll be watching Vista and Centennial – That’s going to be a great game! I only wish Upland would have pulled it off last week. I’m not from Upland, I just like top-tier football.
    This country was built on big dreams and bigger ambitions, not small dreams and settling for the little trophy. You go ahead and continue to aspire for the little things. Let the ones who dream big continue the American dream — or GET OUT OF THE GENE POOL!

    And yes, I’m STILL LAUGHING!

  • Dan

    Still Laughing,
    Pull that stinky foot out of your mouth sir Pompus,
    Since you asked:
    #62 of UCLA Albert Cid formerly of West Covina (08) had a great rookie season for the Bruins this year, pretty much handled anyone lined up in front of him. Walter Thurmond, formerly of West Covina (05)#28 for the Seattle Seahawks had a good rookie season last year at nickle back, he missed most of the season this year because of an injury.

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Still Laughing,

    Jokes on you. I guess your education is not up to par in your imaginary fairytale land of superior beings. Albert Cid, UCLA. William Wallace, Oregon. Solomon, offers from Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Nevada and more to come.Justen Meaders, offers from Arizona and Arizona State. Lonzell Barnett, offer from Utah. Walter Thurmond III, Oregon, currently in the NFL(that would be the PRO’s to simplify it for you), Seahawks. Yes it is a dog eat dog world and simpletons like you get eaten up all the time. You are too easy. ruff!

    How many players from those above mentioned schools are currently in the NFL?

    Oh and you get worse then but hurt when people look down on you. You go on to look down on others you perceive yourself to be better than. Which is clearly not working out well for you.

  • Joe Amat

    That was hilarious!!!

    Proof again of the age old adage:

    “Better to be silent and let others think you are a fool, than to post and remove all doubt.”

  • Jefe

    That field is an absolute disgrace.

  • Spartan 03

    Any updates from CIF on the status of where this game is going to be played?